Spider-Man actually DID have a catchphrase early on. Anytime some talked smack to him, he'd respond with a "Wanna Bet?" and sock him. It was actually pretty cool...until Green Goblin called his bet on a bridge and...and yeah, he kinda retired that one.
@@hunterdramoraEh, at least the confusion here is understandable since whenever people talk about Spider-Man and then say "venom", they mean the capitalized name of the Venom symbiote. (Also doesn't help that in general people not to know that when it comes poisons, venoms specifically *have* to be injectable to count as such.)
Amusingly, in the M2 universe, the fact that there is a next generation of heroes including his own daughter let's him do just that. He's an elder statesman among the superhero community and can still go, but no one expects him too.
What's the thought process behind that? "This city can't survive with only the Fantastic Four, the Avengers, the Defenders, the New Warriors, the Midnight Sons, Daredevil, Luke Cage, The Punisher, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Moon Knight and Doctor Strange to protect it. But once I get someone to replace me as Spider-Man, I'm sure it will all be fine."
@@DanielLCarrierI mean, New York back in the 20th century really was THAT dangerous which is why so many superheroes live in New York or a fictional version of New York.
For those wondering, the female Electro is Francine Frye. She is the clone of one of Electro's hookups who died after getting kissed by him (I'm not kidding, the 2018 Clone Saga was weird). She accidentally gained powers from an experiment meant to give a depowered Electro back his powers
Ehh its not just new comics. I mean he arguably suffered way more in the clone saga. It was so bad he hit his pregnant wife and tried to strangle Ben Riley to death. He also made a weird cacoon for himself and called himself the spider for a tunt bit @banana-lover
I mean what comics does your friend like, don't get me wrong I hate the current 616 spider-man situation as much as anybody but Peter was always going through terrible stuff even on the peak of his writing. Hell superheros in general suffer a shit tone as Peter himself isn't even in the top ten heros having a horrible life he's just the most popular.
"But if you were there when Kennedy was in office why didn't you do anything to save him from being assassinated?" "Why would I leave New York to go to Dallas? Also he had it coming." "What?" "What?"
I would never expect to hear "Canada is in decline", "Confucius once said..." & "Everyone knows a black spiderman, is an evil spiderman" all in one video. 😂😂😂
This time the catchphrase was well timed, since Justin Trudeau just resigned. Whether that means Canada is declining further or him leaving is an improvement, I don't know. Maybe a Canadian can explain if Trudeau was a good or bad Prime Minister.
@@nicholasho1595 dude screwed up housing and that basically fucked up so many other things (don't expect the other guy to resolve the core issues though)
That was Happy’s choice to play that song, and he wasn’t like Iron Man. He just used Iron Man’s stuff. The Iron Spider was an option he could have chose to fight Mysterio, but he chose to design his own Red and Black one instead.
“So you don’t want to see your loved ones die right in front of you, do you even want to be Spider-Man?” Now this is the criteria we need to think of for wanting to be like someone
Technically, if we want to get technical on this, Miles Morales was the replacement for Spider-Man in the original ultimate universe because peter Parker did die in that universe.
He died for a little while. Oz formula makes you immortal and he came back gave Miles shit took his web shooters, gave back his webshooters and fucked off to be with MJ or something.
@@neverreadyfries8066 The mistake is endless storylines with dozens of writers for the sake of endless profit. Plenty of weirder comics that manage to make more sense because they don't stretch plots too much.
00:40 Funnily enough if Peter meant this literally then it would *still* be better and more than he tends to actually get with his curse of getting "only" figuratively screwed.
I mean Peter's suit was originally red and black during the early Stan Lee/Steve Ditko era of the comics it's just the readers thought the suit was red and blue because the black sections of the suit had a lot of blue shading coloured in.
the problem with that is it sounds more like a black widow call sign then a spiderman one, since very very rarely is spiderman, miles or not, working as a SPY.
It's also feels like trying to do a rapper name and has the energy of how ever black guy in government ends up in charge of housing and urban development.
@@finchatforharambe905 They tried to call him Kid Arachnid but it just didn't work because Miles is like 17 and you can't take someone seriously if they have Kid in their name and are old enough to vote.
I mean, I stopped reading Marvel & DC a while ago, but there's a lot and I mean a *lot* of unnecessary legacy Spider-Man villains. Like, do I even *need* to explain Kraven & Vulture, let alone all the different Goblins that appeared ever since Norman was the first one? If anything, I'm just surprised that the *Rhino* of all people only had one replacement. And even then, the guy who tried to replace him was kind of a douche.
@@rubiconprime1429 No, he's talking about the current Spectacular Spider-Men, where Max and Francine are fighting about who gets to keep the name Electro. They've settled on a little competition: the first one to kill an Spider-Man wins.
Same with spiderman 2 on ps5. Peter started to retire about 5 seconds after he saw that Miles was capable of replacing him. No seriously peter went on vacation in the Miles game after he proved that he could clean up his own messes. Then in spiderman 2 ps5 peter went into the Harry plot line, then retired. All while Miles did the work. I guess outside of average, Spiderman is a very solo character, like batman in the arkham games.
@@thewhitewolf58 Before Issue 5 of his original series, he tried to team-up with the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. The only reason he didn't join is because you don't get paid to be on either team.
@@LaffyTaffy04 I mean you get free food and a mansion or a tower to live in. All expenses paid or by an eccentric millionaire that can stretch every part of his body or the one who can't walk. Doesn't seem that bad.
@@voizeguy Yeah, but it also means he can't really do anything to support a family unless he ditches the secret identity and has his family move in with him.
tbf with the way Flashes and Green Lanterns get their powers it's very conceivable you could have multiple. It's a lot harder for Spidermen considering it was a very accidental and experimental thing that happened that got him his powers, it's more surprising that the spidermen powers are as uniform as they are.
@@water2770 Green Lantern can definitely be conceivable as having multiple since they come from a peace keeping force of space police, but the Flash rewrote its canon various times to explain why multiple men happened to get struck by lightning and doused with fumes to give them speed powers. Lmao
I mean the Green Lanterns are a police force. It's basically a job title. There's thousands of them. The Flashes are bit dumb tho with Wally and Barry being brought back to life at the same time and both just being The Flash. Like the writers didn't think that one through.
"Don't you see, Spider-Man!? He's black!" "WHOA-" "The last time you was black, it was with Venom. So we all know black Spider-Man is evil." "There's many layers to what you just said."
I mean, he could've 100% phrased that one better, most times Peter gets the blacksuit he becomes a menace to not only the villains but the city in a bunch of cases, he could've said people would associate the blacksuit in Mile's Spidey with a non-friendly Spiderman, which would cause stress once the red-blue, friendly, spidey vanished. He could've asked Miles to keep black as a secondary color and pick maybe purple or darkblue is a primary color. But nah, bro let all his worldviews out just like that, no filter.
The Elektro bit is actually accurate. Somewhat obscure male heroes/villains being replaced by a female counterpart has been a thing in comics since the 80's. Adding boobs to unpopular characters makes them more interesting.
@@cyechan50 Oh yeah there was a female Doc Ock in a 90s run. She disappeared pretty quickly. All I remember is her weird Virtual Reality that became actual reality thing, because the 90s writers didnt understand the concept lol
Honestly if they wanted to replace Peter with Miles they'd have to do one thing that Marvel is not willing to do. Either Kill Peter in a satisfying way that shows true sacrifice and not bring him back OR let Peter retire happily preferably with MJ and kids. Marvel is never gonna let Peter go because of money and they're definitely not gonna give Peter a happy ending.
If they do Kill Peter off then Ben Reilly should take over as the Next Main Spider-Man, Ben is literally next in line as Peter's replacement, he was literally the first of all the replacement Spiders after all, and we'd have to do it in the chronological order of appearances,
@@chrispilcher2024 I'm still upset over how he really was meant to be Peter's replacement when MJ was pregnant and Peter genuinely did want to retire, it was a built up story that got wasted.
@@PeteTheGrouchBatman gets to have an interesting future version of him in multiple plotlines Cap America also gets it Iron Man reached his peak with his alcoholism, but then he had like...different versions of him? Meanwhile Spiderman is back at poverty despite being an adult through and through It's not funny anymore "Ooh, MJ gets with him again" no shit she breaks up with him for a self-insert or she dies or she's infertile or some shit like that It's time to stop
Venom-Saber, Spider-Sensing, Miles-Maxed, tons of original villains that have no relation to Peter at all and crazy stories with great writing and character development says that he's doing his own thing as Spider-Man.
Mile Morales literally _did_ replace him though. He's in the "Amazing" universe now but he came from "Ultimate" where they just killed off Spider Man for him.
Yet Peter died a heroic death, saving his Aunt May in a way he couldn't save his uncle and it brought his story full circle, this was Miles's Uncle Ben moment and it inspired Miles to be Spider-Man.
I mean, imagine if instead of Nightwing, Red Hood, Red Robin and Robin they were just called Batman. "Hey look everyone, it's Batman and his sons: Batman, Batman, Batman and Batman." Miles should at least have a different name. Gwen does: Ghost Spider. Way better than Spider Gwen imo. Spider Gwen sounds silly. What's next? Iron Tony?
We literally had Batman Inc be a thing, with tons of Batmen active across the Globe at the same and Jace Fox was Batman while Bruce Wayne was Batman as well. Also, no one called Spider-Gwen by that name. In the comics, she was Spider-Woman and then Ghost Spider. And notice how no one complained that Gwen was taking away Jessica Drew's spot.
@@thebluepaladin So it's fine if the character isn't popular enough? Who gets to decide what's the cutoff point? Don't the five Jessica Drew fans have as much of a right to complain?
I agree with Peter actually. He's been through enough shit and just needs to retire...until they inevitably bring him back and he immediately loses everything he gained during retirement.
The issue is Peter's philosophy essentially revolves around not walking away so he will never retire. In general most heros don't really get to retire because heros are defined by never looking away from a cry for help.
@@Extradecentskeleton Peter's philosophy means he needs to be physically crippled, or die to take a break. Usually he doesn't stay dead long so its not a long vacation.
@@Extradecentskeleton The crazy thing is that if Uncle Ben was alive, he would be the main person telling Peter to take a break. He just wanted Pete to be responsible with his powers, not to be responsible for the lives of every single person in New York City.
I agree that it would be nice if he could retire. But the idea that New York City getting one more hero after already having the Fantastic Four, the Avengers, the Defenders, the New Warriors, the Midnight Sons, Daredevil, Luke Cage, The Punisher, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Moon Knight and Doctor Strange would mean that Spider-Man could retire is pretty silly. And even if it was, there's plenty of other cities and towns that need superheroes.
@FactoriesSettings i try not to go there but it really does feel that way. In general comic discussion online are difficult as it's either a bad faith argument by a racist/sexist dude or by someone who actually hasn't read the comics and merely saw an out of context panel or listend to a youtubers opinion on it. Sadly Miles is often one of the biggest victims of theses people, and it sucks because if they actually bothered to read the comics they'd see half their complaints don't even apply.
Miles isn't temporary is the problem. He's here for the long haul & it alienates people that want a comic run with Peter. It's like when Wally West was replaced with Wallace West or when any other beloved character gets shafted to put in a new long term protagonist
Peter: I’ve done the sad and tortured hero story. It took over 60 years, but we did it. It’s done. Marvel: But we need to do it in different ways and in different story arcs. Again and again. And again and again and again and again!
0:38 fun fact: I made a fan made mcu when I was about 8 years old and Spider-Man was the first project. Then avengers would come later. Spider-Man had a line later on that said “I’ve been swinging webs even before the avengers assembled” so your line brought be nostalgia lol
Shout-outs to mochaipaws' first vocal stint in solidjj's videos! She didn't have many lines here, but her "aww wut?" was very relatable; hope this means we'll see more of her in the future, possibly even giving wonder woman an actual voice for a change. 🙏😂
@@vidar188 look I don't want to say she was asking for it but Jesus at least take off the metal when you're making out with the zappy man. He told you that his powers were on the fritz already
Honestly I like different Spider-Men I just wish they had more creative names like,arachnid,cross spider,black widow…oh wait More examples:Techno spider,spider kid,red spider,black spider,white spider Existing examples: spider punk,spider bytes,iron spider Also the electro problem is so easily solved just call her Electra.hero and villain names are not just titles if you want a new character make a new names
I always considered Spider-Man's catchphrase to be anything related to "Friendly Neighborhood" Like that's basically what he always says whenever he's chatting to a civilian or on camera or even saying it triumphantly in a fight.
I mean them both having the same name in the same city at the same time is kinda weird, like, it'd be like having two baseball teams called the Yankies who both from NYC. What I'm saying is Miles should move to Jersey.
Ms Marvel's got Jersey covered and how DARE you tell someone to move to Jersey. Have you seen their traffic?! Also, it's not that big of a deal since they're rarely around at the same time.
@@LaffyTaffy04 Ms. Marvel is one hero compared to the dozens if not hundreds of heroes who operate in New York. Most of the setting live or at one point has operated in NYC for a period of time, alot more if we count the entire state (though the X-Men initially operating in Westchester is kinda cheating I know).
Some of the best parts of Hawkeye is the two Hawkeyes (Clint and Kate) arguing about which of them get the name. Also gave us a great moment when they had Laura using the name Wolverine for a hot second, when she showed up to some random family's house and tells the mom she's Wolverine and she wants to talk to her son, the son is *very* excited Wolverine is here... until he sees her. You can't say Laura doesn't have the Wolverine grimace down at least!
I think it's fine as long as it's a superhero name. If they split a real name like Thor, then that's weird. Villains though, whoever wins in a fight gets the name. On panel or on screen though, none of this Rick Remender stuff where his new pet villain kills a bunch of more powerful villains off panel.
Virgin usm universe: Peter: you need another name because i ain't sharing my name as Spider-Man😒 Miles: ok fine😢 Chad insomniac universe: Peter: nice work Spider-Man🗿 Miles: you too Spider-Man🗿
Green Lanturn is an occupation. There are millions of them accross the Galaxy. There's only 1 peter Parker and Peter Parker is Spider man. Miles Morales is a copycat.
@@PhthaloGreenskinThere is only one Peter Parker" just as there is only one Hal Jordan, while as there are more Earthly Green Lanterns there are more Spider-man. Same for The Flash
@@Deimosviva ya it was the whole Miles Morales as Wolverine miles morales as thor thong that is making me say that mostly the thor thing it was just geto Asgord
That’s not really a catchphrase. It’s just a statement people say. A lot of people “do their own thing.” Superheroes in general go beyond the laws to do good. They’re all “doing their own thing.”
This is actually 100% true when you think about it. Imagine a wholesome ending with Peter Parker marrying MJ, having kids, and then he passes the torch to Miles for Spider-Man. No more writers fucking Peter over.
They already had it for years in the comics before Spider-Man one more day Marvel just likes assassinating Peter‘s character. He wouldn’t have to retire. He’s still young and can be Spider-Man for years and miles doesn’t really make sense unless he’s in his own universe.
Wow. I live in Canada. Hearing Canadas in decline here on this channel where things are supposed to be funny is kind of scary. That makes the situation more real!!
*RANDOM CITIZEN:* "Can't you see you are being replaced?" *VULTURE:* "By who? Blackie?" *RANDOM CITIZEN:* "YEA-eh what?" *VULTURE:* "Blackie, you know...the guy I willingly gave my wings to as I was dying?" *RANDOM CITIZEN:* ". . .Blackie?" *VULTURE:* "Yeah." *RANDOM CITIZEN:* "But...he's whi-" *VULTURE:* 'Yeah, I know he's white. But, you know, that's what he goes by. And if you want to know, he's also agnostic towards his creator. *RANDOM CITIZEN:* "But I don't want to- ahh, forget it. So, like, you're fine with him replacing you?" *VULTURE:* "Heck no! It turned out that he had betrayed me, giving me the will to live, and so I escaped prison, then later broke him out of prison to beat him senseless, all to prove that I can never be replaced!" *KEATON-VULTURE:* "Well...about that..." *SONY:* "Sorry Keaton, but the Sinister Six movie is cancelled now. You will soon be replaced."
He is, for corporate ownership reasons. Marvel doesn't want to pay royalties to Ditko if they can avoid it, so they have Miles Morales Spider-Man, legally distinct from Peter Parker Spider Man (and wholly owned by Marvel a subsidiary of Disney). It's cold corporate greed.
I doubt that. Ditko still created many of the design elements Miles. More likely a case of Marvel going “let’s shake things up a bit”. I like Miles regardless though.
I mean that argument only works if you can point to a time when Peter being replaced by a clone/copycat/heir/etc. wasn't utterly despised by the fanbase
Ben: I did not try to replace him, I really thought I was the real one... no wait, I was the real one but though I was a clone and became scalet spider... or was it the other way around? Gosh no wonder no one liked this saga.
I like how while they're bantering over the catchphrase thing, they start to enjoy the conversation to where Miles is even laughing about the Confucius thing, almost forgetting about the entire replacement thing the bit's been setting up.
I really liked the banter between Peter and Miles, I know that kind of dialogue isn't unique to this video, but this one stood out for me for some reason
I mean, miles should probably have his hero name changed if he's in the same universe as peter. Makes it less confusing. As ben became scartlet spider, gwen became ghost spider, katie (i think thats her name) became silk, etc etc maybe something to play of his bio electricity like thread-runner, or spider-shock, fangs, paralyzer, stun spider, etc etc.
Spider-Man actually DID have a catchphrase early on. Anytime some talked smack to him, he'd respond with a "Wanna Bet?" and sock him. It was actually pretty cool...until Green Goblin called his bet on a bridge and...and yeah, he kinda retired that one.
Wait, really? Neat.
Ruh roh
Really?
It’s not quite a catchphrase, but I liked the “im just your friendly neighborhood spiderman” line that showed up a fair bit
A dead girlfriend will do that to a super hero
the funniest part is that no one knows what race a superhero is unde their mask, so it's not racist to call a superhero wearing black, "the black one"
And the dude is correct, venom suit spidey was a psychopath
@@firekeeper3421venom suit spiderman was the best one
@@firekeeper3421 Was he though, the og venom suit just made him sleepy, he wasn’t really all angry or anything
Spideys costume has been damaged so often people know he's white. Not to mention his wrestling costume showed skin
@@vidar188 Was the wrestling actually in the comics or was it movie exclusive?
I mean, seriously, what’s next? Kilometres Morales?
Kilometeres Immorales
Meters immorales
Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man when Unfriendly Hood Human-Woman walks in the room
Technically Morales is a surname of Spanish origin from Spain so.
Kilometers Inmorales
Don't be ridiculous. It's Meters Honestus
For someone who wanted to be replaced, Pete sure had a golden opportunity to play possum after that venom blast
Why is it even called venom blast?
@@kahlzun Cause his electricity functions similarly to paralyzing spider "venom"
@@kaiseremotion854i feel kinda stupid now i never put two and two together until you pointed that out
@@hunterdramoraEh, at least the confusion here is understandable since whenever people talk about Spider-Man and then say "venom", they mean the capitalized name of the Venom symbiote.
(Also doesn't help that in general people not to know that when it comes poisons, venoms specifically *have* to be injectable to count as such.)
Don't you confusion me!@@MusicoftheDamned
I love the idea spiderman is actively trying to get someone to replace him so he can just live a happy normal life
He should get Paul to replace him so he suffers everything Peter did
@@pablogomezplasencia2937 Spider-Paul!
Amusingly, in the M2 universe, the fact that there is a next generation of heroes including his own daughter let's him do just that. He's an elder statesman among the superhero community and can still go, but no one expects him too.
What's the thought process behind that? "This city can't survive with only the Fantastic Four, the Avengers, the Defenders, the New Warriors, the Midnight Sons, Daredevil, Luke Cage, The Punisher, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Moon Knight and Doctor Strange to protect it. But once I get someone to replace me as Spider-Man, I'm sure it will all be fine."
@@DanielLCarrierI mean, New York back in the 20th century really was THAT dangerous which is why so many superheroes live in New York or a fictional version of New York.
For those wondering, the female Electro is Francine Frye. She is the clone of one of Electro's hookups who died after getting kissed by him (I'm not kidding, the 2018 Clone Saga was weird). She accidentally gained powers from an experiment meant to give a depowered Electro back his powers
Slay
Beat me to it.
Lol slay.
Comics are weird
Most normal Clone Saga fact.
My friend who’s a Spider-Man fan HATES how comic writers basically make Spidey suffer
at this point spider man's going through literal hell with all the new comics about him lol
can't blame spider-man fans, especially after Paul
Ehh its not just new comics. I mean he arguably suffered way more in the clone saga. It was so bad he hit his pregnant wife and tried to strangle Ben Riley to death. He also made a weird cacoon for himself and called himself the spider for a tunt bit @banana-lover
Most spider man fans do at this point. You’d be surprised.
I mean what comics does your friend like, don't get me wrong I hate the current 616 spider-man situation as much as anybody but Peter was always going through terrible stuff even on the peak of his writing.
Hell superheros in general suffer a shit tone as Peter himself isn't even in the top ten heros having a horrible life he's just the most popular.
"I'VE BEEN SWINGIN THESE STREETS SINCE KENNEDY WAS IN OFFICE!"😂
Miles: Wait wouldn't that make you seventy....
Peter: YES,YES IT DOES! The young adult charm is wearing off now I just look like a pervert 😞
@@redflame2328 The timeline's been a hot mess since the Avengers took turns kicking Kang the Conqueror in the balls 7 times.
And yes, in a row.
"But if you were there when Kennedy was in office why didn't you do anything to save him from being assassinated?"
"Why would I leave New York to go to Dallas? Also he had it coming."
"What?"
"What?"
@@CyanRooperlol
@@redflame2328Doesn't Franklin Richards make it so one year passes in 616 for every year IRL? So Parker would still be in his forties
My favorite part of any Solid JJ video is when the bit loses itself and then has a 50/50 chance of coming back to the original bit.
randomly dying and coming back is also a very Spider-man thing to do…
I would never expect to hear "Canada is in decline", "Confucius once said..." & "Everyone knows a black spiderman, is an evil spiderman" all in one video. 😂😂😂
Welcome to Solid jj’s channel
It's actually fairly common to find any two of the three in one video
This time the catchphrase was well timed, since Justin Trudeau just resigned. Whether that means Canada is declining further or him leaving is an improvement, I don't know. Maybe a Canadian can explain if Trudeau was a good or bad Prime Minister.
@@nicholasho1595 It's not really about being good or bad, 10 years as a PM is a bit too long for anyone.
@@nicholasho1595 dude screwed up housing and that basically fucked up so many other things (don't expect the other guy to resolve the core issues though)
“I’mma do my own thing” (proceeds to do the exact same thing)
no, you see, but it's done differently
so it's no the "same thing", even thou it's the same thing
it's different
In fairness he hasn’t got a chance to decide what that “own thing” is yet. Presuming we’re talking about Spider-verse here.
@CalvinLee606 I assume he's just going to do the opposite of what Miguel wanted and still be spiderman
Peter Parker did the same thing in Far From Home. He said "I can't be Iron Man" and then designs his new suit with Tony's favorite music playing
That was Happy’s choice to play that song, and he wasn’t like Iron Man. He just used Iron Man’s stuff. The Iron Spider was an option he could have chose to fight Mysterio, but he chose to design his own Red and Black one instead.
“So you don’t want to see your loved ones die right in front of you, do you even want to be Spider-Man?”
Now this is the criteria we need to think of for wanting to be like someone
This is literally the logic of Miguel in across the spiderverse
@@oknowthisisepic8117 You mean Canon Events?
Miles can’t be Spider-Man, he has his parents
What if your loved ones are already dead when you become spider-man?
@@Ash-Winchester nothing to lose unless you develop very specific types of relationships (like father figures or cops) i suppose
The balls on that civilian to start *lecturing* Electro is insane
More like pointing out the obvious lol
The civilian had a point 😂
He was probably from Yancy Street
Electuring
@@pkmntrainermark8881Boo! 🍅
jk, nice one 😋
Technically, if we want to get technical on this, Miles Morales was the replacement for Spider-Man in the original ultimate universe because peter Parker did die in that universe.
He died for a little while. Oz formula makes you immortal and he came back gave Miles shit took his web shooters, gave back his webshooters and fucked off to be with MJ or something.
Until he was brought back then retired again, then died again when the universe ended, then became Spider-Man again when the universe came back.
Reading this comment chain has convinced me that comic books were a mistake.
@@neverreadyfries8066
the problem isn't comic books, the problem is dead heroes being profitable
@@neverreadyfries8066 The mistake is endless storylines with dozens of writers for the sake of endless profit. Plenty of weirder comics that manage to make more sense because they don't stretch plots too much.
MILES, THE BLACK ONE!!
“Damn it Miguel,not again”
I don’t think I’m black…
that meme was never funny
@@ibrahimalee23nah dude that shit was hillarious
I mean his costume is LITERALLY black, what do they expect people to think!? 🤣
00:40 Funnily enough if Peter meant this literally then it would *still* be better and more than he tends to actually get with his curse of getting "only" figuratively screwed.
"I'm more death than spider!"
"Christ Man"
"OK yeah that could be my new name, no more Spider-Man for me."
1:27 *The emissary from hell! Supaidāman!*
A.k.a. the strongest Spider-Man. He's got a skyscraper-sized robot.
@@Gabu_ *and gun*
2:18 I love how Electro flashes on screen with his lightning bolt here like it's part of his dialogue or something
"We all know from Venom that a Black Spiderman is an evil Spiderman"
"Their are a lot of layers to what you just said"
I mean Peter's suit was originally red and black during the early Stan Lee/Steve Ditko era of the comics it's just the readers thought the suit was red and blue because the black sections of the suit had a lot of blue shading coloured in.
That part got a loud "hah" outta me
@@Jabberkong Yeah same here lol
I mean the white venom is the good one.
@@thegoodoldays911 sometimes
2:10 I love that when he mentioned the time Spiderman was Black a variant of "Get up and drive that funky soul" starts playing lmao
For anyone wondering: Miles being called Spy-D was a thing that actually happened.
the problem with that is it sounds more like a black widow call sign then a spiderman one, since very very rarely is spiderman, miles or not, working as a SPY.
It's also feels like trying to do a rapper name and has the energy of how ever black guy in government ends up in charge of housing and urban development.
@@jacoba6747 A cooler name would’ve been like Arachnid or Arachniphobia
@@finchatforharambe905 They tried to call him Kid Arachnid but it just didn't work because Miles is like 17 and you can't take someone seriously if they have Kid in their name and are old enough to vote.
@@LaffyTaffy04 I thought Kid-Arachnid was just in that one tv show, was it also a comics thing?
The Electro bit is basically what’s happening in the current Spectacular Spider-Men comic 💀
I mean, I stopped reading Marvel & DC a while ago, but there's a lot and I mean a *lot* of unnecessary legacy Spider-Man villains.
Like, do I even *need* to explain Kraven & Vulture, let alone all the different Goblins that appeared ever since Norman was the first one?
If anything, I'm just surprised that the *Rhino* of all people only had one replacement. And even then, the guy who tried to replace him was kind of a douche.
I mean, if by recent you mean almost a decade ago. They brought Max back anyway. No harm done.
@@rubiconprime1429 If anybody wants context for your comment, look up the time Ben Reilly tried to become the new Jackal. No, I'm not making this up.
@@rubiconprime1429 No, he's talking about the current Spectacular Spider-Men, where Max and Francine are fighting about who gets to keep the name Electro.
They've settled on a little competition: the first one to kill an Spider-Man wins.
@sinisternorimaki oh okay. I read on marvel unlimited so I’m a bit behind
Civilian: he's replacing you
Spiderman: shut up dude do you know what i been through i need this let the kid suffer for once
Same with spiderman 2 on ps5. Peter started to retire about 5 seconds after he saw that Miles was capable of replacing him. No seriously peter went on vacation in the Miles game after he proved that he could clean up his own messes. Then in spiderman 2 ps5 peter went into the Harry plot line, then retired. All while Miles did the work. I guess outside of average, Spiderman is a very solo character, like batman in the arkham games.
@@thewhitewolf58 Before Issue 5 of his original series, he tried to team-up with the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. The only reason he didn't join is because you don't get paid to be on either team.
@@LaffyTaffy04 I mean you get free food and a mansion or a tower to live in.
All expenses paid or by an eccentric millionaire that can stretch every part of his body or the one who can't walk.
Doesn't seem that bad.
@@voizeguy Yeah, but it also means he can't really do anything to support a family unless he ditches the secret identity and has his family move in with him.
@@voizeguy He didn’t care about that, he needed money for aunt may
„There Can‘t be two Spider-men at once!“
Meanwhile we have DC Comics with their wide selection of Guys who are named Green Lantern and the Flash.
tbf with the way Flashes and Green Lanterns get their powers it's very conceivable you could have multiple. It's a lot harder for Spidermen considering it was a very accidental and experimental thing that happened that got him his powers, it's more surprising that the spidermen powers are as uniform as they are.
@@water2770
Green Lantern can definitely be conceivable as having multiple since they come from a peace keeping force of space police, but the Flash rewrote its canon various times to explain why multiple men happened to get struck by lightning and doused with fumes to give them speed powers. Lmao
@@water2770flash got his power accidentally
tbf on the Green Lanterns are an entire force rather than a mantle like Batman for example.
I mean the Green Lanterns are a police force. It's basically a job title. There's thousands of them.
The Flashes are bit dumb tho with Wally and Barry being brought back to life at the same time and both just being The Flash. Like the writers didn't think that one through.
1:03 when Miles finds out that he'd eventually have to deal with his own Paul,
…
I guess Miles’ Paul would be “Paulo” or “Raul”?
Only if his future writers hate him.
@@xavierhouston4650 it's gon be "Peter" with his mama
We'll find out if he can stay ahead of canon events.
"Don't you see, Spider-Man!? He's black!"
"WHOA-"
"The last time you was black, it was with Venom. So we all know black Spider-Man is evil."
"There's many layers to what you just said."
I mean, he could've 100% phrased that one better, most times Peter gets the blacksuit he becomes a menace to not only the villains but the city in a bunch of cases, he could've said people would associate the blacksuit in Mile's Spidey with a non-friendly Spiderman, which would cause stress once the red-blue, friendly, spidey vanished. He could've asked Miles to keep black as a secondary color and pick maybe purple or darkblue is a primary color. But nah, bro let all his worldviews out just like that, no filter.
2:56 what… kind… of shock…
Emnimnom
Exactly like what were you checking 😂😂😂
@@Richmansdiary1 black Spider-Man… venom symbiote… venom shock…. Black spider man
Static
One in the stink
"I'm replacing ME with HIM!"
Spider-Man 2(2023)
@NoteWiseMusic
Yeah this skit has caused me to see that scene in a whole new light.
Peter needs that rest man, Pete needs the rest
"You, the normal one!" "You mean the not black one?"
He said the original one
@wiswc It wasn't an exact quote. Just me trying to be funny given the context, even if it wasn't good
Miles is afro-rican
@@VMan29397 techically miles is an american
@@Adi-mk2lq No We are not Americans. Not by choice
Honestly a reasonable crash out on Pete’s end
He needed to quit so he could get a third job
The Elektro bit is actually accurate. Somewhat obscure male heroes/villains being replaced by a female counterpart has been a thing in comics since the 80's. Adding boobs to unpopular characters makes them more interesting.
interesting...yeah...that's it
Electro isn’t exactly obscure
Doc ock had one when he was dead.
The first time.
@@umapessoa240 don't Electro has never really had much of a personality to replace. Adding boobs might actually give the character something
@@cyechan50 Oh yeah there was a female Doc Ock in a 90s run. She disappeared pretty quickly. All I remember is her weird Virtual Reality that became actual reality thing, because the 90s writers didnt understand the concept lol
Honestly if they wanted to replace Peter with Miles they'd have to do one thing that Marvel is not willing to do. Either Kill Peter in a satisfying way that shows true sacrifice and not bring him back OR let Peter retire happily preferably with MJ and kids. Marvel is never gonna let Peter go because of money and they're definitely not gonna give Peter a happy ending.
Well, ya know what they say... in the world of comics, the only real 'god' is Status Quo.
If they do Kill Peter off then Ben Reilly should take over as the Next Main Spider-Man, Ben is literally next in line as Peter's replacement, he was literally the first of all the replacement Spiders after all, and we'd have to do it in the chronological order of appearances,
@@chrispilcher2024 I'm still upset over how he really was meant to be Peter's replacement when MJ was pregnant and Peter genuinely did want to retire, it was a built up story that got wasted.
Miles Morales is only spider man cause of his skin colour, the first dei character.
@@PeteTheGrouchBatman gets to have an interesting future version of him in multiple plotlines
Cap America also gets it
Iron Man reached his peak with his alcoholism, but then he had like...different versions of him?
Meanwhile Spiderman is back at poverty despite being an adult through and through
It's not funny anymore
"Ooh, MJ gets with him again" no shit she breaks up with him for a self-insert or she dies or she's infertile or some shit like that
It's time to stop
Miles: Imma do my own thing.
Also Miles: I am also Spiderman, like he is.
Venom-Saber, Spider-Sensing, Miles-Maxed, tons of original villains that have no relation to Peter at all and crazy stories with great writing and character development says that he's doing his own thing as Spider-Man.
2:04 Honestly, i almost forgot symbiote suit was a thing.😅
Mile Morales literally _did_ replace him though.
He's in the "Amazing" universe now but he came from "Ultimate" where they just killed off Spider Man for him.
Yet Peter died a heroic death, saving his Aunt May in a way he couldn't save his uncle and it brought his story full circle, this was Miles's Uncle Ben moment and it inspired Miles to be Spider-Man.
That '67 style Miles suit actually looks really cool.
I mean, imagine if instead of Nightwing, Red Hood, Red Robin and Robin they were just called Batman.
"Hey look everyone, it's Batman and his sons: Batman, Batman, Batman and Batman."
Miles should at least have a different name. Gwen does: Ghost Spider. Way better than Spider Gwen imo. Spider Gwen sounds silly. What's next? Iron Tony?
Stark Man😤💪💪
We literally had Batman Inc be a thing, with tons of Batmen active across the Globe at the same and Jace Fox was Batman while Bruce Wayne was Batman as well.
Also, no one called Spider-Gwen by that name. In the comics, she was Spider-Woman and then Ghost Spider. And notice how no one complained that Gwen was taking away Jessica Drew's spot.
@@LaffyTaffy04 well to be fair spider women is.. lame straight up never cared for her at all. and ghostspider is way more popular.
@@thebluepaladin So it's fine if the character isn't popular enough? Who gets to decide what's the cutoff point? Don't the five Jessica Drew fans have as much of a right to complain?
@@LaffyTaffy04 They absolutely do.
"I'm more death than spider!" Okay that goes a lot harder then needed.
I agree with Peter actually. He's been through enough shit and just needs to retire...until they inevitably bring him back and he immediately loses everything he gained during retirement.
The issue is Peter's philosophy essentially revolves around not walking away so he will never retire. In general most heros don't really get to retire because heros are defined by never looking away from a cry for help.
@@Extradecentskeleton Peter's philosophy means he needs to be physically crippled, or die to take a break. Usually he doesn't stay dead long so its not a long vacation.
@@Extradecentskeleton The crazy thing is that if Uncle Ben was alive, he would be the main person telling Peter to take a break. He just wanted Pete to be responsible with his powers, not to be responsible for the lives of every single person in New York City.
I agree that it would be nice if he could retire. But the idea that New York City getting one more hero after already having the Fantastic Four, the Avengers, the Defenders, the New Warriors, the Midnight Sons, Daredevil, Luke Cage, The Punisher, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Moon Knight and Doctor Strange would mean that Spider-Man could retire is pretty silly. And even if it was, there's plenty of other cities and towns that need superheroes.
This is why the spider-girl comic run is probably the best outcome for a retired Peter.
He’s been doing this for 65 years 💀
“Til you’re 90…”
@@NationX beat me to it 😂
Im glad you pointed out that there were other spider-men far before miles showed up.
so so many.
It only became a "problem" because miles isn't... You know...
@FactoriesSettings i try not to go there but it really does feel that way. In general comic discussion online are difficult as it's either a bad faith argument by a racist/sexist dude or by someone who actually hasn't read the comics and merely saw an out of context panel or listend to a youtubers opinion on it. Sadly Miles is often one of the biggest victims of theses people, and it sucks because if they actually bothered to read the comics they'd see half their complaints don't even apply.
@@FactoriesSettings"gulp" *timbers shiver* "b-black?"
Miles isn't temporary is the problem. He's here for the long haul & it alienates people that want a comic run with Peter. It's like when Wally West was replaced with Wallace West or when any other beloved character gets shafted to put in a new long term protagonist
Peter: I’ve done the sad and tortured hero story. It took over 60 years, but we did it. It’s done.
Marvel: But we need to do it in different ways and in different story arcs. Again and again. And again and again and again and again!
"OtHeRwIsE hOw WiLl SpIdEr-MaN bE rElAtAbLe To ThE aUdIeNcE???"?
When in doubt, bring Confucius into the argument
Better than his Ayn Rand phase. That was a thing.
❌ “I wanna give another kid a chance to be Spider-man”
✅”Someone else should suffer for a change”
The best part is the guy freaking out about people being replaced is wearing a red hat
Behold it is I, Spider-Man! And my faithful companion, the Brown Recluse!
Ayo 😂
@@Eantrin yooo
That is both the best and worst one I've heard yet. Very well done.
Joking aside, "Recluse" works pretty well as a name. Like a more Batman version of Spider-Man. Sticks to the shadows, uses fear tactics...
@@Bluesit32makes people paralysed, stalks and tracks down people
Peter raising Miles so he can retire is such a vibe
"Legally distinct spider related character" is something I'm totally going to use in a legally totally distinct way in the future.
0:38 fun fact: I made a fan made mcu when I was about 8 years old and Spider-Man was the first project. Then avengers would come later. Spider-Man had a line later on that said “I’ve been swinging webs even before the avengers assembled” so your line brought be nostalgia lol
The "He's black" circling back to referring to the costum was golden comedy. XD
Shout-outs to mochaipaws' first vocal stint in solidjj's videos! She didn't have many lines here, but her "aww wut?" was very relatable; hope this means we'll see more of her in the future, possibly even giving wonder woman an actual voice for a change. 🙏😂
Okay, but that's almost exactly what happened to electro in the comics like wtf
Yeah but to be fair max is the one who turned whats her name into a monster, so revenge was natural response
@@vidar188 "red flags everywhere"
@@vidar188 look I don't want to say she was asking for it but Jesus at least take off the metal when you're making out with the zappy man. He told you that his powers were on the fritz already
Honestly I like different Spider-Men I just wish they had more creative names like,arachnid,cross spider,black widow…oh wait
More examples:Techno spider,spider kid,red spider,black spider,white spider
Existing examples: spider punk,spider bytes,iron spider
Also the electro problem is so easily solved just call her Electra.hero and villain names are not just titles if you want a new character make a new names
I love the *red trucker hat* implication. 😂😂😂 GENIUS!
I always considered Spider-Man's catchphrase to be anything related to "Friendly Neighborhood"
Like that's basically what he always says whenever he's chatting to a civilian or on camera or even saying it triumphantly in a fight.
At first I thought Miles having a businessman like voice was weird at first until I remembered the fake deep voice he did in spider-verse
I mean them both having the same name in the same city at the same time is kinda weird, like, it'd be like having two baseball teams called the Yankies who both from NYC. What I'm saying is Miles should move to Jersey.
Don't forget that there is a Spider-Man in LA too. Theres three of them running around in the comics all with the same name
Ms Marvel's got Jersey covered and how DARE you tell someone to move to Jersey. Have you seen their traffic?!
Also, it's not that big of a deal since they're rarely around at the same time.
@@LaffyTaffy04 Ms. Marvel is one hero compared to the dozens if not hundreds of heroes who operate in New York. Most of the setting live or at one point has operated in NYC for a period of time, alot more if we count the entire state (though the X-Men initially operating in Westchester is kinda cheating I know).
Some of the best parts of Hawkeye is the two Hawkeyes (Clint and Kate) arguing about which of them get the name.
Also gave us a great moment when they had Laura using the name Wolverine for a hot second, when she showed up to some random family's house and tells the mom she's Wolverine and she wants to talk to her son, the son is *very* excited Wolverine is here... until he sees her. You can't say Laura doesn't have the Wolverine grimace down at least!
I think it's fine as long as it's a superhero name. If they split a real name like Thor, then that's weird.
Villains though, whoever wins in a fight gets the name. On panel or on screen though, none of this Rick Remender stuff where his new pet villain kills a bunch of more powerful villains off panel.
Virgin usm universe:
Peter: you need another name because i ain't sharing my name as Spider-Man😒
Miles: ok fine😢
Chad insomniac universe:
Peter: nice work Spider-Man🗿
Miles: you too Spider-Man🗿
funniest part of this video is that the whole electro thing is happening in the spectacular spider men run
This is what happens when superhero comics aren't allowed to simply end.
Everyone hates the clone saga so that's not much of a defense
Which one? :)
@@sdgdhpmbp The original one and clone conspiracy, Miles's clone saga was very well recieved.
I liked it, it introduced Ben Reilly aka the Scarlet Spider,
There’s literally a Spider-Man comics arc called *“8 Deaths of Spider-Man”* out right now. I think Spidey might have a point.
"There can't be two Spider-Men!"
All 8 (yes, I count Alan Scott) human Green Lanterns: Yeah.
Alan, Hal, Guy, John, Kyle, Jennie-Lynn, Simon, Jessica, Jo...
Not counting several other canon human GLs not in that list...
Nobody likes all the Green Lantern copies either, though. That's way worse.
Green Lanturn is an occupation. There are millions of them accross the Galaxy. There's only 1 peter Parker and Peter Parker is Spider man. Miles Morales is a copycat.
@@PhthaloGreenskinThere is only one Peter Parker" just as there is only one Hal Jordan, while as there are more Earthly Green Lanterns there are more Spider-man. Same for The Flash
@@PhthaloGreenskin at this point being spiderman might as well be, they need shifts and routas
2:55 that should be "put dirt in og spidey's eye" 😂
"Its better than 'The Black One'" okay its canon now lmao
Peter Parker is Spider-Man
Miles Morales is Miles Morales
Canada is in decline is Spider-Man’s catchphrase
I love how real Peter and Miles' argument was
"Imma do my own thing" really became Miles's catchphrase😂
what is his own think just aping someone else's character?
@@trip9845exactly he’s a cheap knock off with cheaper gimmicks
@@Deimosviva ya it was the whole Miles Morales as Wolverine
miles morales as thor thong that is making me say that
mostly the thor thing it was just geto Asgord
@@Deimosviva nope
Never go full black, spiderman. It always ends up some sort of faustian bargain plot for you
*WOAH WOAH WOAH....HOLD'UP!!*
There's a hyphen in Spiderman??
Duh.
@@blankspace178 yu dur
Yep. In fact Stan Lee insisted on the Hyphen. Remember it.
"He's a Spider-Man, he's not Saul Spiderman"
In the preschool kids show miles morales is called: The amazing spin
Im serious.
That’s not really a catchphrase. It’s just a statement people say. A lot of people “do their own thing.” Superheroes in general go beyond the laws to do good. They’re all “doing their own thing.”
Peter Parker is Spider-Man.
Miles Morales is Miles Morales.
Miguel O'Hara is Spider-Man, actually
Miguel O'Hara: Am I a joke to you?
This is actually 100% true when you think about it. Imagine a wholesome ending with Peter Parker marrying MJ, having kids, and then he passes the torch to Miles for Spider-Man. No more writers fucking Peter over.
That was basically what Spider-Girl was
Also basically the plot of the 2nd insomniac spider-man game; though not handled the best.
They already had it for years in the comics before Spider-Man one more day Marvel just likes assassinating Peter‘s character. He wouldn’t have to retire. He’s still young and can be Spider-Man for years and miles doesn’t really make sense unless he’s in his own universe.
And we could finally have a canon Mayday Parker.
@@motivationalmike6829 He makes a lot of sense. Miles is Spider-Man's happy ending.
That bit with the two Electros at the end was kinda fun.
Spider-Man, Spider-Man, these two guys are named Spider-Man.
Wow. I live in Canada. Hearing Canadas in decline here on this channel where things are supposed to be funny is kind of scary. That makes the situation more real!!
No kidding, the fact that it's bad enough that people from other countries are noticing is kinda worrying.
I enjoyed the whole vid, but that whole side-piece about catch phrases vs mantra was the best part.
1:09 Miles didn't you watch your mom die?
03:04
_[ Solid jj USED "EMOTIONAL DAMAGE" ]_ 🤜💥😵
_[ IT'S SUPER-EFFECTIVE! ]_ ✨😉👍
👇
"Why does he gotta be Spiderman.YOU'RE Spiderman, he can do his own thing right?"🤣🤣
0:48 “I’m more death than spider.”
-Spiderman 2025
the irony of "Ima do my own thing"
Love how Miles just casually attempts murder.
*RANDOM CITIZEN:* "Can't you see you are being replaced?"
*VULTURE:* "By who? Blackie?"
*RANDOM CITIZEN:* "YEA-eh what?"
*VULTURE:* "Blackie, you know...the guy I willingly gave my wings to as I was dying?"
*RANDOM CITIZEN:* ". . .Blackie?"
*VULTURE:* "Yeah."
*RANDOM CITIZEN:* "But...he's whi-"
*VULTURE:* 'Yeah, I know he's white. But, you know, that's what he goes by. And if you want to know, he's also agnostic towards his creator.
*RANDOM CITIZEN:* "But I don't want to- ahh, forget it. So, like, you're fine with him replacing you?"
*VULTURE:* "Heck no! It turned out that he had betrayed me, giving me the will to live, and so I escaped prison, then later broke him out of prison to beat him senseless, all to prove that I can never be replaced!"
*KEATON-VULTURE:* "Well...about that..."
*SONY:* "Sorry Keaton, but the Sinister Six movie is cancelled now. You will soon be replaced."
Ah, a fellow classic comic fan
See Adrian, this is why your granddaughter didn't visit you in prison. This shit right here.
He is, for corporate ownership reasons. Marvel doesn't want to pay royalties to Ditko if they can avoid it, so they have Miles Morales Spider-Man, legally distinct from Peter Parker Spider Man (and wholly owned by Marvel a subsidiary of Disney).
It's cold corporate greed.
I doubt that. Ditko still created many of the design elements Miles.
More likely a case of Marvel going “let’s shake things up a bit”. I like Miles regardless though.
"I've swinging these streets since Kennedy was in office!" Had me rolling. 🤣🤣🤣
Bro I was gonna make a joke about the red hat but he was actually kinda chill
We could call Miles RedBack. It's like a Black Widow with the same colour scheme
“I hate miles he’s trying to replace peter”
Ben and Kaine: 👀
I mean that argument only works if you can point to a time when Peter being replaced by a clone/copycat/heir/etc. wasn't utterly despised by the fanbase
Ben: I did not try to replace him, I really thought I was the real one... no wait, I was the real one but though I was a clone and became scalet spider... or was it the other way around? Gosh no wonder no one liked this saga.
@@PeterDivine I know, they’re just happy they can exist in peace now that miles gets the brunt of the “replacement hate”
Ben and Kaine were clone of Peter so it's not the same as an entirely different person taking up the name.
@@toongrowner1Well, NOW he wants to utterly replace Peter. Steal his memories and live his life.
“Oh so now you don’t wanna see your loved ones die in front of you? Do you even want to be Spider-Man?”- entire plot of across the spiderverse
na, he wants to do his own thing.
@@rpbeens he says as Spider-Man 2099 proceeds to slam him
Nah imma do my own thing
I bet in Gotham the same thing is happening with every Robin
I like how while they're bantering over the catchphrase thing, they start to enjoy the conversation to where Miles is even laughing about the Confucius thing, almost forgetting about the entire replacement thing the bit's been setting up.
I really liked the banter between Peter and Miles, I know that kind of dialogue isn't unique to this video, but this one stood out for me for some reason
Two Spider-Men arguing for the fun of it is great to see.
i love how even in the standalone miles moralis game the first thing peter does once miles has a good grasp on his powers is take a vacation
Spiderman literally sold 2 chances to replace himself with clones, and he sent them to vegas
I mean, miles should probably have his hero name changed if he's in the same universe as peter. Makes it less confusing. As ben became scartlet spider, gwen became ghost spider, katie (i think thats her name) became silk, etc etc maybe something to play of his bio electricity like thread-runner, or spider-shock, fangs, paralyzer, stun spider, etc etc.
Some spider-men: I WILL NOT BE REPLACED!!!!
Most sane spider-people: you really think I'm gonna do this sh*t even as an old person?