Adding more horsepower! Bootmod3 Stage 1 on my F80 BMW M3
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2019
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I just got BootMod and flashed to stage 2 yesterday! Glad you are enjoying the tune as well. Thanks always for great videos!
Do you run downpipes with stage 2?
@@TommyLGarage Yes, I run catless downpipes from VRSF.
It’s recommended but not necessary. Mostly for the fact that the burbles are more aggressive in stage 2 as well as the catalytic converter robbing 30whp or so. I run stage 2 (non agg) with burbles off. Not as significant as stock to stage 1 but still worth it in my book.
Hey Tommy I suggest every time you flash and it says “ wait 5 seconds “ turn the car completely off, lock it and let the car go into rest mode or “sleep” that way you will not get any check engine lights or error messages once you start the car ! 👍
Juan Canot ahhh good recommendation thanks !!!
He just has to turn ignition fully off and then start
Nice video, tommy! thanks for taking us through all the tuning features.
Thanks for watching!
Beautiful car brother one of my favorite m3s ive seen. Love your videos also!
Much appreciated!!!!
Love your vids man. Stay safe!
Thank you!!!!
8:48 “We’re gonna let the warm car up for a bit and go for a quick spin”. Oh you were definitely spinning, no doubt about that! 😂
Hahah touche !
That cold start is awesome
Agreed. But I can’t live with it.
The tune bug just bit you in the ass... That boost giggle after the flash is priceless though.
haha ohhhh yea
You should play around with the “Boost Reduction by Gear” function to aid with traction a bit. Try 20% in 1st and 10% in 2nd - still feels fast, but with better traction in the lower gears. You will notice a bigger difference in warm weather with summer tires of course.... Oh yeah, you don’t need to mess with the “Rev Match in Sport+ w/DSC Off” setting since your car is a 2017. That setting is for 2018.5+ cars that came from the factory with rev match in Sport+ mode. BM3 put that setting there because BMW still disabled rev match in Sport+ with DSC off - this setting defeats that factory interlock. Keep up the great content!
Yes someone told me to try the different reductions - might give it a try. and Thanks for the heads up on the DSC stuff!
Good video! I’ve got an m4 with BM3 stage 2 and catless downpipes. BIG difference...although I’ve never had it dyno’d to measure exact HP gains.
I’d love to run aftermarket downpipes but I’d hate the smell
@Tommy L Garage, yeah I just felt a light performance improvement from stage 1 to 2. Biggest leap was from nothing to stage 1. I track my car a lot so every little bit of performance helps...but the smell is a bit hard on the nose :-(
Congrats tommy
Thanks !
Great video. I am tempted to purchase this flash just to enable rev matching in sport plus!
Worth just for that and cold start delete. And I love rev matching - nothing wrong with admitting it :)
best complement i had to the tune was going wider to 305's in the rear... that gave me the traction i needed
That’s what I’m hoping for in the spring. But having a hard time finding wheels I like
You don’t need 11 inch rims you need high performance tire, like toyo r888 or Nankang ar 1. 275/35r19 are $309 and they are the best. That what I use when I go to the mountains. Philstireservice.com/shop/Nanking-ar-1
@@luichi5462 ua-cam.com/video/Bb6VG8wLLTc/v-deo.html U sure?
Welcome to the dark side of more power! 🦾 Enjoy it man!
Thanks! ...already craving more
Awesome 👏🏼
I’m literally doing a tune just to get rid of cold start . I have the mpe and it’s obnoxious I hate leaving 3/4/5/6 (varies) in the morning including weekends and waking and offending the neighbors. I decided to do downpipes charge pipes drop in filters and charge cooler and go stage 2 91 👍🏼👌
You sound like me. I had to do a tune to get rid of cold start. Leaving at 5am and waking up neighbors is a no no
Making me wanna flash my F22 now Tommy!! 🔥
Do it!! I can help you if you need it
Hey Tommy , Gm....thanks for the info...I have all the info I need to install my next tune..
You got it!
Be sure to get the cable as well (linked it in the description)
Tommy L Garage will do, thank you
Great video as usual Tommy!
Thanks! Please lets do one on your car soon!
She’s tucked away on the lift for the winter..😢 will have to be spring time now.
m3summ you’re sinning. Drive it! :)
Tommy L Garage lmao!
Told you man, makes it 100x better doesn't it!
IsraeliPilot you were right!!!
Hey tom, i run stage 2. I highly suggest a boost reduction of 50, 30 10 for 1,2,3 gear. You can also do 40, 30,0 i read for the stage 1. You wont notice it at all but the traction will be so much better.
I'll mess with it a bit for sure. Thanks!
It will have no back seats and a roll cage by March! 👍😁
Haha I hope not
Tommy L Garage This comment was especially funny since I just watched your video on installing child seats. 😂
Holy shit I haven't seen one of them IBM business laptops in years!
Haha yup. It's from my job I had 8 years ago....
I have also the Same one for My Cars programms and i think they are the best.
It's a great map. Added GTS tune recently and car actually drives more civilized. Not sure that is what everyone wants. Also going to drop d1 power by 10%. Wish was able to do in increments of 5% to drop to 15%.
Isn’t it amazing how you can reduce boost by gear ?!
Hey Tommy, did you ever make a follow up video review for this? Would be great to know how you felt about the upgrade a little later on 😁👍
Zero regrets. I love it!!
Excellent video
Thank you!
I love the cold start. I wish on the stock exhaust it would keep the valves open all the time like the cold start does. Not sure why everyone hates it. Granted I don't wake up at 4am. But I honestly don't give a shit what my neighbors think.
Doing it once would be okay. Five days a week would be a no no.
Finally someone wit public sense, they make noise during the day? Well I work at night deal wit it
HAHAHA I knew you couldnt hold out forever. 👍 Ill be looking forward to the down pipe install lol
ahhh maybe ;)
Hi there nice vid by the way. I just want to ask and since I have a 2021 M2 competition, I decided to change the downpipes, the pipes going towards the back is from eisennman race with no exhaust just a straight pipe with no blockage whatsoever, then I change charge pipes, the crank hub and have the ECU tuned, thats it. Now my question is do I need to change my OEM intercooler to a CSF or any aftermarket dual pass charge air cooler? and I dont track this car but just drive it daily and drive it spiritedly and fast. Hope to hear from you the soonest.
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Wow. Fantastic Tommy . I would like to ask you this ... Does boot mode give CS tune too? The same torque curve ?? And if you can in next vdo , can you find out exactly the difference in the cs software to competition ? Is the diff and other parts of cs THAT different to the competition ?
I do like the Cs but would buy the competition pack if it can be tuned to exactly the same as the CS . Pls .
Happy new year btw.
Yes it does. I actually ran the CS tune for many months, including a track session, and it was brilliant. It shaved 3 seconds off o fly lap time. It was not very noticeable during daily driving but I guess it still added a few extra ponies.
HAPPY NEW YEAR !
@@TommyLGarage How did you like CS vs Stage 1? I think I saw in Blake's Garage video where he compared the two tunes on Dyno and CS had more gradual torque curve.
I feel like Stage 1 is too much torque to drive on public road.
Hey Tommy your car is awesome.I have a Mineral grey m3 f80.I love it.You are a cool guy.Greetings from Germany.
Thanks for the note and I appreciate the kind words!
Congratulations on the tune. Did you get the OBD Wifi Agent? Makes life a little easier. Toyo R888 time!
Thanks! I think for now cable is fine, but good to know a WIFI agent exists.
I heard R888 are noisy for daily driving. Might just to PS4S
Well done. Rear tires coming soon? How much power you think you making now?
I should be close to 500 wheels
New to your channel and really enjoying your content. Considering a F80 M3 with manual transmission, but would be learning manual with that car. Is that ridiculous?
You’ll be fine. The anti stall feature makes it easy to learn a manual on this car
Congrats on tune. Make sure on your car you hold down traction control button for 5 seconds to turn DSC off!
Thanks! And yes the spinning clips were all full traction off.
Beautiful build following very closly.
Love The Car !!
Thanks!!!
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Hi there thanks for the video : would you do a cranck hub upgrade after the factory recall and upgrade by BMW. Thanks Chris
Already paid for an upgrade. I doubt bmw will ever recall it
How many hp gains with stage1 did you dyno and check it yet? , love your videos 😍
Hi thanks I will dyno soon
Hi Tommy - Was there anything special you had to do to switch from Open Flash to Bootmod3? Did you just reflash back to your stock map then flash Bootmod3 over it? Or did you have to go thru some process to re-lock your ECU before flashing bootmod3? I currently have the BPM Stage 1 tune and thinking of switching to bootmod3 as I may upgrade to stage 2 and may also try ethanol tunes. Thx.
Yes you have to completely flash back to stock and lock the DME.
Hi. I know it's been awhile since you made this vid, but would you recommend bootmod3 stage 1 on it's own? From the videos I've seen it's a ton more power, but traction is really compromised.
I say keep your car stock. It has plenty of power
Hi Love you video's 👍👍 just wondering do you know if BMW can pickup the flash record's to void to warranty or long as I flash it back before I go back it's fine.
Also are there standard profiles for 95 and 98? Thanks
Yes they can
Have you dyno the car my friend? What are those numbers?
Regards from Portugal
Tommy,
Do you have to revert back to stock tune when you are doing the emissions testing in NJ?
Yes sir.
Just a note the ecu has a flash counter that is only accessible by the dealer so they would know that it has been modified
Very true
But that flash counter can be reset
Tommy,
How’s feel like not having rev matching in Sport mode? I’m thinking about turn off the rev matching in Sport mode and keeping the rev matching in Sport+.
Honestly I never use sport mode. I only kept it off just so I have the option of heel and toe...but I never heel and toe.
Hey Tommy - do you have to flash a map in order to eliminate cold start? Or this can be done on the stock map in bm3. Same question on tweaking the burble settings. Thanks in advance!
You can use a stock map in bm3. You can adjust it all and still keep the stock tune
Is there any gain for competition?
Hey Tommy,
Can you use bootmod3 to only remove the cold start and keep the stock tune? I'm planning to get a M2 N55 but my neighbors will kill me! :D
Yes sir. That’s why I got it in the first place no leave my car at 4:30 AM and cold start was a major no no. So it was either me keeping the car and getting a tune with cold start delete or getting a Tesla
do they have a 98 octane stage 1 tune? From Australia cheers
I think Noah used that same laptop to tune the ark. ;-). Your car however looks AWESOME. I could only afford an M235, but I love it.
Hahah funny.
Tommy not sure if it’s been asked, but where did you get your shifter? I’m looking for something similar. Maybe drop a link?!
Getbmwparts.com and search for MPerformance shifter
The submarine beep during the HOLY SHIT remark made me laugh out loud. Haha
Haha I had to censor it for the younger audience while making it fun
Have you tried the GTS Transmission flash? I have a 2016 M3 non-comp model and I'm wondering if the GTS trans flash will get rid of the jerkiness/stuttering from 2nd to 3rd gear. Also, in your opinion, would you recommend the CS/GTS flash for a bone stock m3 just to get the exhaust burb and extra power?
In efficient mode, you won't notice anymore jerkiness/stuttering, as the GTS trans flash will keep the RPMS low and change gears more often. With BM3, you can set the burbles however you like. CS+/GTS flash is the perfect blend IMO. Stage 1 / Stage 2 are great as well, just a lot more power.
I Ran CS+ map for a bit and loved it. It won't hurt and it will wake up your car a bit more
I found the stage 1 too aggressive in the torque ramp up. I’m on the cs+ map and it’s just enough power to feel a gain over oe without overwhelming the grip/chassis
The new stage 1 was vastly improved recently. I see no difference in smoothness between CS+ and this
I found CS+ to be a horrible map with plenty of nasty boost oscillations on mid throttle. The latest stage 1 map is leaps and bounds improved in this respect. Really feels OEM but massively enhanced. The best stock like map is the GTS map.
Never say never.....my 3yr warranty just expired so just gone BM3 stage 1 (93) myself. And wow 🤩 the extra low down torque makes my (M4 Competition Convertible) the car it was designed to be. As for traction.....unless you want to do 0-60’s and use launch control regularly (Teenager kill the tyres mode) 🙄 As an everyday driving experience 30-80mph pulling range it’s perfect with My MPS4’s naturally. Highly recommend 😎
Well said !!!
😂 the look on your face is like a kid receiving their first holiday present.
haha so true
i never seen/heard you curse, this convinced me to do it now lol
Lmao
question: When you add a custom stage 1 tune, does it replace 1 of the 4 stock tunes (eco, comfort, sport, sport+) or is it an additive selection to the 4 named. Thanks for always replying to comments.
Stock tunes are not tunes. You have the same horsepower across all except the gas pedal feels different and exhaust flaps change positions. Stage 1 raises horsepower across all of these settings.
Thanks for the explanation.@@TommyLGarage
@@TommyLGarage did you feel mpg drop?
That is an amazing car bro! I own the F80 and want to tune it to stage 1. However, I still worry about void the factory warranty. How could you remain your warranty after you tuned it? Or where should we get the warranty after we tuned the car?
Make friends with your service advisor
@@TommyLGarage Mine is out of warranty; 2016 just purchased. Bootmod Stage 1 was the 1st thing I got for it! :)
@@mdrobc13 did you do the crank hub
@@elgavilanurbano8541no need for stage 1 in most cases, stage 2 and above becomes more of an issue, and only pushing the car occasionally while completely warmed up without pushing in the pedal to floor (shifts down to lowest possible gear and hits the gas)
Hi Tonmmy, do you have any coupon code discount buying from kiesmotorsports? I'm looking for BM3 for my M235i
mention my name...they'll hook you up
You should really get a downpipe, u wont regret it! Great video btw!
I’d love a downpipe but Ive got two kids and the toxic smell is a no no
How much is for crank hub upgrade?
And why exactly we need this upgrade, thanks!
Check out my precious video where I detail it. It’s a very common issue in tuned cars
Q-hi tommy,,is it always in this extra power or only when you put in sports plus
Always.
I am interested installing Bootmod3 and what happens to a dealer warranty if you are to install on a new BMW?
It gets voided...if they find out about it
Btw, We need to meet this summer! Any BMW meets there ?
DailyDrivenTurbo sounds good!
I’ll work on something.
how is the reliability after flashing with stage 1 compared to CS+ or GTS map? any side effects that will harm the engine/transmission mechanically?
So far so good!
@@TommyLGarage Thanks tommy , so you are still in the stage 1 map and did not try the CS+/CSL or GTS maps?
On the stage 1 tune do u feel the torque falls flat on the top end, I have the stage 2 tune
Nope. They recently improved it. Feels like stock just more powerful
Tommy you should Dyno your car next and see the results! I made 472whp/444tq on crappy 91 OCT gas.
Will do soon!
Hey Tommy! How long did it take approximately? I understand that you should put on a battery charger, but if I charge it in my underground parking, I cannot open the website to do the flashing? Or I can do it outside on the street but then I can't charge the battery while flashing :'(
Dominick Han why don’t you just rent a little portable battery charger or buy one from Walmart.
@@luichi5462 Like a jump starter?
Honestly if your battery is fully charged from daily driving you should be fine. Total flash time is about 10 minutes first time. You should be OKAY.
If I woke up to that at 4 am I wouldn't be bothered cause it would put me right back to sleep.
I moved from there so no worries anymore :)
I have never once heard a car guy say I want to get rid of my cold start. I leave at 3am sometimes I keep the garage door shut for a moment before I open it. I would never ever try to get rid of it.
I leave at 4:15AM.
Garage is below bedroom.
Wife and kids are sleeping.
Neighbors nearby.
IT's a recipe for disaster.
@@TommyLGarage that makes sense lol
The cold start is the only time my F82 sounds decent. Otherwise it sounds like a Prius
Hey Tommy about how much am I looking to spend to get the max psi crank hub?
Nearly $4k with everything
Thanks.
Question! After tuning with bootmod3, and reverting back to stocktune will the dealerships be able to see that the car has been modded and void any warranties? Or will it fly under the radar?
Excuse me I meant “been tuned”
They will always know. The key is to tip your service advisor very well When dropping off the car
Hey Tommy, I owned my M3 for over 4 years now, and thinking about getting the same tune. To flash, do you just need a laptop, cable and the bm3 account? Thanks
That’s it!!! It’s super simple
@@TommyLGarage awesome! Thanks
do we need to upgrade the crankhub? I do not plan on beating on the car
In that case not really
I have a F10 M5, would you recommend the Bootmod3 tune? Just curious about what the power gain is on a stock car...
I am very happy with Bootmod3... not sure about f10 power gains but I’m sure they’ll be huge
@@TommyLGarage thanks man
F80 M3 GOOD
:)
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F80 is my dream, I still save money
didn't you do the tuning bootmod3 with bryan in the track a while back!! why a revert stage 1? lolo
We did CS back then. This time I went Stage 1
How long did you wait for this specific tune to flash onto the car? Also, I got BM3 and plan to run same tune.
About 1 minute. Super quick
Tommy L Garage thanks man!
How do you feel about the ferodo ds2500s vs genuine pads? Do the ferodos offer more bite than genuine?
I have stage 2 on catless downpipes and CSF top mount intercooler and have few issues with stopping the car. So I want to upgrade the brakes.
I ran Ferodo ds2500. They are essentially the same as oem. You want to run Ferodo DS1.11 but they will squeal a bit. But the bite will be amazing !! I run them at the track
Tommy L Garage thanks for the reply. How is the ds1.11 pads like for street use? Is the cold bite any good? I mainly drive on the street and track about once every 3-4 months.
Tony H too noisy for the street for me but cold bite is amazing
Tommy L Garage really? I heard the ds1.11 cold bite was worse than the ds2500s because they take longer to heat up and get a very strong bite?
Does Bootmod3 allow you to change/code features like door chimes, DRL brightness, etc?
WhiskeyActual get bimmercode
No
No. Bimmercode does. I linked it in the description. You get a discount too!
Back to stock before dealer visit, while filming and uploading proof it was flashed, on youtube🤷♂️
I like to live dangerously:)
Great content man, keep it up! Is your shifter from IND?
Thanks! Nope it is my own retrofit - I did a diy on it a few months back. Saves myself some good $$
Tommy L Garage, oh ok. I must have missed that video. I’ll look it up thanks!
Power is last on my list for my F80 lol. I'd maybe just do a ZCP tune after the warranty runs out.
Keep it that way. Power mods are so addicting.
Were you able to get a ZCP tune? Was thinking the best way to do that.
@@caliberautomotivegroup1770 Nah, still enjoying it in stock form. Car is too fast already and there are other elements that are slowing me down on track. Bootmod3, Alex MS Alpine and maybe others offer OEM-like ZCP and CS tunes.
Can you give me please link for cabel? Thanks mark
Here you go:
www.kiesmotorsports.com/products/enet-cable-bootmod3-flashing-and-f-series-coding-cable?aff=7
Nice one good vid. I don’t have boot mod on my 2019 m4 but a custom tuner Litchfield over here in UK did my car. 568bhp at crank stage two with vrsf dp and aa mid. You should now get yours on roller be great to see figures over last time you had a rolling road.
I’ll be doing a dyno run shortly
Does bootmod3 void your warranty? How did u take it to a dealer after you flash it to stock, they can tell right
It voids it.
you mentioned mid pipe, do you need to remove the cats for that?
Just secondary. You pass emissions with primary
are you able to pass OBD emissions with the stg 1?
Yes sir
Does Bootmod3/tunes in general decrease fuel efficiency? (Assuming same style of driving as pre-tune)
Actually it can increase fuel efficiency. Look it up - many have noticed better fuel economy
I see I’m not the only one that covers up my laptop webcam.
The government...
What’s your crank hub upgrade?
Bryce Koizumi MaxPSI done by Kies Motorsports
u finally did it huh. 1will change to 2 soon...trust me haha. stage2 with decat power is...like... the end of f80s tunning. I changed utubes name sorry about that! have a great one!!
I"d love stage 2 but I can't run catless downpipes. I need the air around me to be clean
@@TommyLGarage Good call Tommy. Running catless sucks anyway. Your bumpers get so ridiculously dirty and the only way to clean them is with decontaminent and a clay bar every time. Really makes keeping your fresh car looking clean. I did it once, never again. Plus it smells awful in the cabin. BTW, i'm a new subscriber. First video, and great content.
Stavros Stergiou thanks! I hope you can catch up on all the rest :)
@@TommyLGarage will definitely look around. I've been eyeing possibly getting an F80 M3 as well as a daily driver. Always loved M cars, never owned one.
Have you read enough on this tune to know if this tune is reliable? I want the tune so I’m curious...
So Activ very reliable. Search any M3/M4 forum.
Yes. Very reliable. It only gets better.
Is the bootmod no longer available? Link returns a 404 error.
Try this www.kiesmotorsports.com/products/bootmod3-s55-bmw-f80-f82-m3-m4-m2-competition?aff=7
Does turning off cold start damage the car?
Not at all
Charge pipes, down pipes, cold air intakes. And you can got stage 2 making 550, thats what I run on mine
I don't wanna mess with downpipes....i hate the smell and I often times have 2 kids in the car with me
Hmm, i run 580 on bm3 stg2, csf kit, downpipes, bms drop ins, mpe. thinking removing gts transmission tune it doesnt feel right i miss the push jump when shifting up
Can I use a usb cable or it has to be that one?
Has to be this one
How much was the crank hub upgrade?
Around $4k
11:22 when reality reminds you that you’re not playing a game ;)
Oh so true !