How to make WiFi Router UPS for 12V 1A 2A / 9V 1A 2A Routers | DIY
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- WiFi Router UPS version II | How I built - WiFi Router UPS for 12V 9V 2A Routers.
As Promised, In this video I'll be showing you, How you can build your own 12v 2A or 9V 2A UPS for your Modem / WiFI routers using some readily available modules. It is super easy and anyone of you can make this by following the steps.
Credits
Director: Anish Yadav & Aishwarya Kaushik
Editor: Anish Yadav
Cinematographer: Anish Yadav, Aishwarya Kaushik, & Deepanshu.
Script writers: Anish Yadav & Adnan Parvez
Content & screenplay writer: Adnan Parvez
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Components :
#TP5100 Li-Ion Battery Charger Module - www.amazon.in/...
#XL6009 DC to DC Booster Module - amzn.to/2ROxpQv
1K -ohm Resistor -Buy from Electronic Shop. (It will be very cheap :D ) or set of 100 can be bought - www.amazon.in/...
Metal Switch x 1 - robu.in/produc...
or
Switch x1 & LED x1 - www.amazon.in/...
Two 1n5822 Schottky diodes x1 - www.electronco...
18650 Lithium-ion cells x2 - www.amazon.in/...
or a Prebuilt battery pack: www.amazon.in/...
DC barrel jack Male x 1 - robu.in/produc...
DC barrel jack Female x 1 robu.in/produc...
7.4v 2S BMS x 1 - robokits.co.in...
1K OHM resistor x1 -
Small heat sink with thermal paste compound. x1 (RaspberryPi heat sink will work fine) x1 -
Wires- Buy from Electronic Shop.
Soldering tools - www.amazon.in/...
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This device works with your router's adapter of any voltage ranging from 5v to 15v. This device uses router's adaptor to charge the ups battery and power the router simultaneously. When electricity is not there, it uses battery to power the router. However, if you want to purchase a ready-made device contact starwatt.in or WhatsApp them @ +91-8971090763, Check their complete product list at instagram @starwatt.in
Sir i want to add 4 liion battery then tp5100 is enough for charging my battery
And can we give 12 v dc input to 5100 to charging my battery
yes
yes
@@TheSmarterThings i dont think that tp5100 is enough for 4 cells, cause it will take more time to charge and since it is rated for 2 cells only, it may burn.. What are your views??
I built my wifi router UPS following your instruction yesterday. Please accept my sincere thanks. The component description list in your video was very helpful and I got all the component online. As of now, it's working amazingly and working seamless with my jiofi router ( 12 V 2 A). I used my old Kent SMPS for the body with green led switch light and is looking complete product. Keep doing such DIY's and all the best wishes.
Thank you so much :) Such appriciation motivates me more to bring more videos.
@Things Academy Hey Brother..
thanks 😊... I have built this circuit yesterday and tested it. I have used 2200mah 2 batteries and I can't believe my router is working more than 7 hrs with this circuit combination.
0 days, 07:48:01 (still it's ON and took details from router)
Thank you so much 😊😊
Great.
Thanks for your video. I built 1 today and it works perfectly.
Glad to hear that.
I've posted this comment on Instagram too.
This is an awesome content buddy, wish u all the best and hope ur channel grows and touches millions! My question is I already have 12V rated powerbank and I want to make use of it as a UPS, I did a direct connection to router and it works, Now I want to turn on powerbank supply only when power goes off. Can u pls suggest a solution with a Relay switch ? (Assuming powerbank doesn't have pass thru feature) Thanks bro! I appreciate the quality of thr content. I found no other Indian channel on this, I'm sure your channel is unique! Kudos!
Thanks. I replied you on Instagram. DM ON Further discussion. :)
Made 2 of these monsters.... been using for over a year now... working Pretty good...
Those who are reading this comments, Got inspired by this video I bought all the components as mentioned in the video, I'm a novice in this area so had multiple failed attempts and mostly it was the tp5100 which will fail on me, what I learnt is when soldering the parts with tp5100 I was either burning something due to overheat from iron or some kind of short circuit, I lost around 3 tp5100 and 1 dc booster, i didn't make the battery pack bought a pack as is with BMS on which it was written no additional module required and can be directly connect to charger, so I skipped the tp5100 and have directly connected 9 volt charger to the battery pack and from that to the booster to boost to 12 volts and in booster out Schottky diode as in description then to router, this has been working for a week now and when power goes off the router works, but not sure if continuous charging going to cause damage to the battery, but considering the bms is the pack has overcharge protection hoping might help, but that is just my assumption. Posting this because I read many comments who have problem with the tp5100 not working or over heating or no proper output current, this all related to the module and also I could see many complaint on tp5100 online. Hope this helps someone 🙂
If you are not using the tp5100 or any specific battery charger, there is a high chance of battery to burst due to over charging. BMS will never protect you form over charging.
A big thank you and really appreciate your dedication. I could able built mine . Keep up
Really waiting for next video👍
thank you, Will bring it up soon. Due to Lockdown, every thing is delayed.
I did this ups and its working fine. Used 4 batteries and gives backup of more than 6hr on 12v 1a router. Tested it for two weeks till now everything is fine. Only problem is it generates heat. I compared it with branded ups fo same load and branded ups does not heatup so much. But its normal and working fine. Thanks for posing this video.
Great. Thanks for sharing. The heat is due to 4 batteries you connected. For 2 batteries heat will be less.
@@TheSmarterThings No heat is generated by convertor not charger. Tp5100 is cool. And also load is 1amp only
Initially i tried with 2 battries that time also it was heating up. Will need to search for a better boost converter.
are the schottky diodes used are blocking thr voltage as expected?
@@TheSmarterThings yes, and i checked temperature also. They are cool as normal so it means they are working fine.
Go for xl6019
Finally the video i was waiting for.. thankyou so much
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Good hit 🇮🇳👍👍 || Kuki
Nicely explained!! I will collect all items and try. Thank you.
Once a brother, always a brother, no matter the distance, no matter the difference and no matter the issue.Happy Raksha bandhan anshu... we are always proud of you🍻🥳.
thank you mili :) same to you.
I was trying to build the previous version and then you came up with nice update.
👌👌 :)
I already bulid old version
Weldon beta my wishes are always with you 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Thank you :)
Finally uploaded thank you 🙏
🙈 no worries.
I'm impressed
What a work bro ❤️
Nice explanation bro!! I have total 5 devices 3x 5v 1amp and one 9v and 12v I am OK to use 2 sepereate devices for 9v and 12v but my question is, can I make 2s bms with input 5v/9v with either TP4056 as shown in previous video or TP5100 as shown in this video and XL6009 for 5v output and connect all 3 devices to one XL6009 output? Backup time 15-30 min also OK but will it work?
Hi Anis... If I want to build ups router for 9 v... As my one if the router is having 9 v as input... So what we have to change in the current circuit diagram... Or we just need to set the output voltage as 9 Volt from xl6009... And we are done to use it with 9volt router... Pls let me know thanks
Changing to 9v should work.
Lifesaver.
👍👍👍 Very Help module
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Very nice video 👌👍👍👍
Thank you :)
Many thanks for all your effort for this wonderful and useful video. Can you please confirm if I can use my 10k mah power bank here instead of using the 2 cells.
Hello, Thank you very much. You cannot use a 10000 mah power bank as it has the inbuilt charging circuit. however, you can extract batteries from power bank and use those in series.
Hi Anish,
Firstly Thank you for putting up simple DIY UPS with minimal components and detailed explanation. I have made the first UPS module using XL6009 converter & TP4056 charging module for my router with 12v & .5ma rating. I have used 2 batteries in parallel for better backup & power.
However UPS v1 is relatively unstable and either doesn’t start/backup the router or restarts frequently. While heating up XL6009 & TP4056 while
charging and off charging, Hence I had to drop off this UPS and was waiting for your new UPS 2 version.
While looking up for similar UPS modules, came across xl4015 converter, can we replace this with the xl6009 in the version 2 UPS? Does the UPS
v2 address the heating issues? Your view please.
Thanks in advance, await for your response looking forward for v2 UPS build.
Hello, Thank you for your feedback. You cannot replace xl6009 with Xl4015 as it is a buck converter not the boost converter. However, if you still want to go for better alternative to xl6009, please go for XL6019 booster converter. it is a new modules have greater output current and better stability. However it will be costly and you must use heat sink with that module as it is a high power module. You can find it here - www.amazon.in/dp/B0796817R6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_9lTgFbDN0GN83
In in this version, the heating issues are addressed by increasing the input voltage and providing a heatsink on top of IC. I have tested it for keep it running for 5 days with multiple mannual power cuts to this device and it is much stable than the previous one.
@@TheSmarterThings Hi Anish, Thanks for the guidance, finally completed assembling v2 UPS, it's working smooth as butter when powered through adapter and without adapter input.
However observed the power is being drawn from the battery rather than the adapter power supply, which triggers the BMS to cutoff after certain point of time, please advise.
Thank you keep up the good work 👍
Waaav awesome bro very clean and clear explanation 🎉
Thank you. :)
Sir you inspired me
Hi Anish, Thank you for your guidance, finally completed assembling v2 UPS and it's working smooth as butter, when it's fully charged and no fiddle with adapter power supply.
However observed the power is being drawn from the battery rather than the adapter power supply once restarted from mains or when power is back please advise.
Thank you keep up the good work 👍
It should no do like that. It is an online ups. Kindly cross check the connections.
Thanks for sharing. I have built the UPS it was running just fine yesterday however today I found it not able to power router correctly. The LED and router are in reboot loop like UPS is not able to supply full power. When checked I found the Step-up heated up and so looks like output is coming from battery despite power was available.
Found the issue, I forgot to short SET pins on TP5100, this solved the issue for me.
Thanks for the video, today I finally got it connected and it worked fine, many thanks to you.
But I have a concern when the battery is on the tp5100 shows purple color, where as when I switch off the battery it turns blue, guess it means battery charged.
Hope connecting both power (input and after buck boost) via diode will not affect the parts?
Or is it any specific voltage I have to set when using buck boost, which I guess shud be lower than the adapter voltage?
Not sure so need your suggestions on this, hope tp5100 does not get affected.
Thanks
Sandip
I made this and it's successfully working. Thank u Bhai. I have a small doubt. I am using adapter of 12V 1A, and my wifi is of 1A I wish to add cooling fan of 0.5 A also to the enclosure where I kept this. Can I do that
If tou add another 0.5A fan, there will be no current for battery to be charge. In that case i would recommend to go for a 12v 2A ERD brand BIS certified adaptor from amazon.
Sir ap simple kariqa istamal karsaktay thay 2 cells parallel may charging kay lye tp4056 module and dc booster voltage increase kay lia mobile charger say easily charge hojaega ye ap ka method thora different or expensive bhi but nice information
Thank you :)
आपका वीडियो बहुत ज्ञानवर्धक होता है। कृपया अपने वीडियो में प्रोजेक्ट की अनुमानित लागत भी बताया करें।
मैं चाहता हूं कि आप एक ऐसा 100 वाट के आस पास वाला ups या इन्वर्टर भी बनाना बताए जिसमे हम बिना wifi अडॉप्टर से इनपुट दिए मिलने वाली ac आउटपुट में ही wifi का अडॉप्टर लगाया जा सके इससे फायदा ये होगा कि अडॉप्टर के आउटपुट वोल्ट को एडजस्ट नही करना पड़ेगा और एक से ज्यादा wifi या अडॉप्टर, कैमरा इत्यादि लगा सकेंगे। पर वो छोटी बैटरी से चले, कम साइज में रहे। रेडीमेड ups में समस्या ये है कि वो 500 va से कम का नही होता और 20 मिनेट बैकअप ही देगा। इसलिए आप कम वाट बताएं ताकि कम वाट और छोटी बैटरी में ज्यादा देर बैकअप मिल जाएगा।
और एक वीडियो आप Peltier प्लेट पर भी बनाएं ये एक अनोखा प्रोजेक्ट होगा। ये amazon पर मिल जाएगा
Thanks you, i will work on the ups. also the peltier projects are on the way.
I will definitely try this, I tried with dc booster and battery bank, but it was restarting during power outage, and when the power comes back in.
And Sir your videos are really very awesome
Thank you :) Subscribe for more.
Few queries
1. What if lights never go off for 15 days, will there be any issues with batteries which will keep charging for 15 days without discharge?
2. I have two routers, 1 is rated 12V 1.5A and the other is 9V 0.6A ... Will this router work for these?
3. Can we use Lithium Polymer 18650 batteries?
1: We are not constantly pushing the power to the battery as the BMS and TP5100 are acting as protective elements here. Tp5100 provides us safe charging and Overcharge protection. However, BMS provides overcharge, over-discharge and short circuit protection.
2. YES, You have to make two no. of such device, one will be boosting voltage to 12v and other will be boosting voltage to 9v. I have this device in stock. If you need it Let me know on instagram -@thingsacademy and I'll ship it to your location in 1 day.
3. You can, but you should not. 18650 cells are purely made for high energy density applications and have better stability on the high discharge current. This is the reason we use such cells in all-electric vehicles and polymer batteries in cell phone like devices only.
@@TheSmarterThings Thanks for the clarifications...Will try this first, let's see, will let you know what happens...
All your vids are good... Keep up the good work and keep growing...
I was also trying for lcd screen but all deliveries on banggood are on hold...
@@TheBHUSHANTHITE I would suggest that you try on amazon.in. however, it would be costly .
Sir if i make the second verson of the ups with Tp4056 is it works?
Sir Same12 Volt 7ah Lead Acid Battery Ke Sath Banakar Dikhao Plz
Sure will do.
*Can i power the surveillance camera using this device?*
I am going to build one for Wifi Router and one for camera.
Thanks a lot. *This the content for which UA-cam is there.*
Thanks for the wonderful video. I think you already said that you will be creating video for two routers using a single UPS. I would be interested in this because i have an airtel connection. It has one modem to which the optical cable is connected as input (from alcatel which is 12v 1.5 ampere) , this modem has connection going out to router and one to telephone , the router is dlink router (12v with 0.5 ampere). So a UPS with two output one for modem and one for router will be very helpful (Since you said you will be already making it it will be helpful). It would also be helpful if you can provide suggestions to lower cost on batteries and circuits as in my case i just need a backup for one min only as my apartment has generator backup which kicks in one min after power goes off. Also is it possible to boost voltage of single 3.7v lithium ion battery to 12v to charge router and modem in case if i require i t for just one min ?.. It would be helpful if you can discuss such option in your video which will help us to reduce the cost further. Also see if you can make ups in such a way that we can access the lithium ion battery with a small panel and just replace the batteries as we do in wall clock, you would need a battery holder similar to that is found in www.amazon.in/Electronicspices-18650-Battery-Holder-Leads/dp/B0863TC797/ref=asc_df_B0863TC797/?tag=googleshopdes-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=396987099045&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16996308559751718721&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007768&hvtargid=pla-913540267139&psc=1&ext_vrnc=hi
hello, the video will take time due to some technical issues. But looking at your use-case, I can offer you a device at a reasonable price which will do the JOB. Also using battery battery holders are not recommended for battery pack applications as putting a low-quality battery with two high-quality ones will degrade the battery life of two good quality battery. Hence, I will never recommend to go by that approach. You should never mix the batteries which are not identical. In worst cases, the battery may also blow up .
@@TheSmarterThings Thanks a lot for looking into my comment and providing the clarifications. Please recommend the device as you mentioned, i would be looking for it. I basically want to power both my router and modem which has different pins for a max of 3 min when there is a power cut.
@@dineshkamath1982 kindly provide you email ID, will send you quote there, or you can ping me on Instagram- thingsacademy as well
well done bro, very nice video.
Thanks 👍
is it safe to charge the batteries with a 12-volt adaptor? need only 8.4 or 9 volt adopter
Hi Brother,
Everything is working fine after building this circuit. when i checked TP5100 Light, light is flickering rather i can say it's toggling between red and blue. So is this normal behavior? Is it due to frequent charging discharging of battery as battery is used everytime to power router ?
Yes. It is an expected behaviour.
Share the bms you used?
@@TheSmarterThings
Lithium ion 2S 15A 7.4V BMS Charge Protection Circuit
This is the same which you have shared in component list. The same url.. from Robokits i ordered it.
Okey great, it is normal behaviour, if there is any other issue, let me know.
@@TheSmarterThings Okay..Thanks 😊
I would appreciate your response. You are the only youtuber which reply very quickly 🤙🏻
can i use the 2S 10A BMS instead of the recommended 2S 15A BMS
However it will cost the same. Go for the 15A one as it will have much stability on higher current.
@@TheSmarterThings can I use the 20A version will it work
Yes
In my experience it is always better to use more battery voltage than required & step down it using DC to Dc Step down circuit. I am using 3 li ion 1500 mAh batteries reducing the voltage from 12.6 to 9 volt by using stepdown circuit for my TP link router. It gave me more than 5 hours backup & still it is able to give more than 2 hour backup. My need was long backup & not auto switch over. So I kept the circuit very simple & separate to avoid unwanted continuous battery charging. There are lot many protection circuits but either they are too costly if you go for good one or fail to work if low cost circuit is used. Lead acid battery has no problem in this respect but the circuit will be too bulky.
Thank you for the nice video with description . I have two device , one is ONU and other is router . The ONU needs 12 V , 0.6 amp and the router needs 9 V , 0.5 amp . You build it for one output . How I'll use it for my two device at a time ? Thanking you .
i have two device 9v router and another 12v modem what is the solution for it
you can use two boosters instead of one and 2 batter packs in parallel. set output of one booster to 9v and other to 12v
Nice video with explanation, I tried to make this using the components described ... The device ran for 2 hours but after that the TP5100 heated and smoke came out ... Would you be able to help ?
Just to add bit more context , I used a 12v 1a adapter ... And dint connect the router ... Wanted to test first
could you please share how you have built this circuit? were there any changes made to the components? have you used the identical batteries and not mixed match the old battery with new one? could you please share the picture of the circuit on my instagram - @thingsacademy
Hi Thanks for the details what is the input adapter need to use, I have the jio router 12v 2amp my wifi router is not working with this for input if I charged the my battery manually then it is working
HELLO SIR,
Sir can I use the same circuit with the 9v 0.6-ampere wifi router.❓😊🙏
yes
,🔥🔥 nyc bro
Thanks Bro. ❤️
Hey, will this not draw power from the battery even when electricity is available? You could have used a mosfet to switch the power draw from battery and mains.
Hello bimal. As it is an online ups so yes it will draw the power but that will be less. the most power will be drawn from the 5822 diode due to shortest path current can see with less resistance. However, i have tried to put a mosfer before xl6009, but i was not trigger it immediately as the power goes off. This caused th router to switch off for a second and switch on later. Hence, i dropped that idea after lot of testing. If you have any idea thta how this can be achieved, we can collaborate together to work on this and will give you credit in my next video as well. I am eager to work with you if you can help me building this. If you are interested, Kindly ping me on instagram @thingsacademy. Waiting for your response. :)
@@TheSmarterThings Great, pinged you in instagram 👍
Tp5100 ko set ko short kiya tha, kia jb complete circuit ho jaye, kiya tab set ko jo short kiya tha, woh desoldier kr k khatam krna ?
Hi Bro,
Very good Video, I am struggling to get all components in one place. can you help us to get the required components at one stop? I am looking for 3hr Backup for my 12V,2AM wifi Router. Plz suggest.
This device will not give you 3 hours battery backup on 12@a router until you use 3s 3ps battery configuration. which means 9 Li on cells. Also finding all these components on a single online store will be very difficult due to this COVID period. However, you need this device to be built and shipped to you, you can ping me on instagram -things academy
Nice u video may brother
Thanks for your
Thanks.
Is it work with jiofiber router (my router adaptor output is 12v, 2A) please comment ?
Note : I don't require more backup i need only 10 min to 15 min of backup untill my power failure restore
And your videos are good and inspiring.
You inspired me to make my own
Thanks, yes it will work with jio router.
Hi Anish, thanks for creating such a good video and explaining everything in detail. I have a question and it would be great if you could give advice...
I have a router which runs on 9v/.6A and a modem which needs 12V/.5A. Can I run both of them on a single UPS or do I need to create 2 separate UPS? If I can run both of them on 1 UPS, what should be the output of that UPS and what components do I need? Appreciate your response.
For this use case, you need 2 different devices with voltage set to 9v and 12v respectively.
@@TheSmarterThings Thanks Anish.
Also, will it be a problem if I add 4 18650 li-ion batteries to these devices for getting longer backup?
Hello Anish,
I have fixed female barrel jacks for input and output terminals. I have adjusted the output to 9V as per the router requirement. When I am checking at the output female barrel jack, it is showing 9v without any issues. But when connecting to the router, it is not turning on the router.
I have another question for you.
What if we want to use 3 led bulbs? 1 to indicate charging with mains, 2nd when battery is low and 3rd when it is running on batteries? Can you please suggest a way?
Another problem which I faced today. Last night, there was an unexpected power cut and the battery drained fully. Now when I am turning on the UPS, it is not charging the battery at all. It's been more than 12 hours still ok luck. When shall I do?
PS: these are new batteries.
Bro can I use 12v battery made of 3S 40A BMS instead of this two in nos 7.4v 2S BMS, why because my both 7.4V 2S BMS is not giving output. I think it's not working. As I get that products from the link u share
Hello, In order to activate the bMs you have to charge it once for 1 minute.
Yes you can use a 12v battery but there the charging current will be high hence, If you charge and power the router at the same time, the 12v adaptor will overheat and blow up. It has happened to me twice.
@@TheSmarterThings You mean make the connection as u said and then charged using 12 V adapter for a minute then only BMS will be activated. Hope this is what u mean
yes exactly.. Make the complete circuit it just just connect the battery connections to tp5100. solder the 'SET' solder pads and connet tp5100 to 12v adaptor. it will chagrw the battery and activate the bms.
@@TheSmarterThings Thank u bro
Thanks Bro . Any reason for using 2S 15A BMS ? can I use 5A BMS ? i want a sort backup so using single battery. can I use 1s 5A BMS , will it able to provide output of 5v 3amp?
Hello. I am using a wifi modem and a broadband. For getting internet connection, both should work. So i need 12v supply for both the things. Please make a video for this as soon as possible. And by the way i dont know anything about these electircal stuffs😅
❤️🔥🔥
Thank you :)
Will this work for 12A / 1.5A nokia router for airtel fiber or should I go with your first version you built 5 months ago ??
the first version is depreciated. You this to power any of you router including 12v 1.5v routwr as well.
@@TheSmarterThings okay thanks a lot :)
Thanks
Can you please sugget some ready to use product/ cable to convert my Anker power bank powercore 20100 into router ups? My power bank does not allow charging and discharging at same time. Also, there is a button to push to start the discharging. My jio fiber router needs 12v 2.5Am and my power bank generate output of 5v 4.8Am.
I understand sir you have made the right calculations but unfortunately the powerbanks and not made for instant switching. The ic inside the pcb of powerbank do this to make the battery charging efficient and reduce the output current of powerbank when it is charging. It is kind of safety feature which cannot br bypassed. Hence, we cannot use a powerbank to drive the load uninterrupted when the charging is removed and connected again. I do have circuit in my mind. However, I would have to test it. If it worked, I will make a video of it for sure.
Hi bro, nice video. Can we use MT3608 instead of XL6009. Also, can we put a 5v adapter to the input with a 5v router to the output? Cheers :)
for this device, You can use 5v input. but in that case, you have to use a 1s battery i.e. single cell which will output only 3.7 to 4.2 voltage range. if your reouter need 5v then only you should go for this approach and use MT3608 with tp5100. Otherwise, always use xl6009 for voltages higher than 5v.
Hi... There was a problem with the input female jack... I just replaced an ups router is working... But when I supply 12 v input to ups... The red light glow on TP5100.... is that will keep. On flowing or it will turn off... I don't know... Pls let me know.... But initially when gave input to from 12 v adaptor... The red and blue light both glow... But now only red is glowing always... When it switch of the 12 v supply main then the red light turns off....
Sir agr ham sirf xl6009 k use krke banae toh same ase hu banega ya phir tp5100 important ha or battery charging module bhi zarori ha agr hm iske baghair banae toh work krega please Tell me
And your explanation is very Good Best of luck for 100k subscriber
Isme btane gye sb components zaruri hai.
Thank you :)
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Finally, !!! Thanks for uploading.
What's the total actual costs for this. If I buy all the parts other than soldering , multi meter.
it would come around 500 rs to 600 rs ideally including 2 battery i.e. 1 battery pack
Hi Brother, you build it very well. One query here
Can i use "2S 3A 7.4v 8.4V 18650 Li-Po Li-Ion Lithium Battery Protection Board BMS Circuit Module" in this circuit.
No, atleast 5a needed
Can this be used for 12 v 3amp
Unfortunately, No.
First of all great video with extreme attention to details. And I have one question, will the adapter take the load of charging the battery pack and the router as well ? I am going to use 3s 20A bms with charging and discharging features. Is it a viable option ?
3s will not work. Work. You need to go woth 2S only that too with tp5100. 3S battery directory connected to an adapter is not recommended as it need a constant current source for its stable operation and a regi9 adapter is not a constant current source.
@@TheSmarterThings I am not connecting them directly. I wanted to use this robu.in/product/3-series-20a-18650-lithium-battery-protection-board-11-1v-12v-12-6v/
This is not a constant current board. This is just a BMS board. The BMS is not equal to the charger. I know there are lot of UA-cam videos where people show you connect these directly to adaptor which is dangerous. The setup may work fine and look easy. But every battery do have some internal resistance and have specific charging current. Over current will cause thermal runaway and will blow up the battery. A Li-Ion batt.has a peculiar charging characteristic that most people could not understand and follow. That is why these batteries have an internal circuit which does the “Dirty” work for you. All you have to do is connect the battery to the charger. If you do not have an internal circuit-you will have to do the “Dirty” work yourself. Here goes:
Connect the battery to a suitable power supply, and adjust the current flowing into the battery to be between 10 and 70% of it’s rating(Say the battery is rated at 2 AH, than adjust to .2 to 1.4 amps.)That phase of the charge will be the “Constant current”step. As the battery voltage will increase, the current flowing into the battery will decrease. You must watch the current often, and adjust the power supply voltage up to restore the current to the value you started with.You do this until the battery voltage gets to 4.2 volts/cell(Namely, if you are charging two batteries connected in series, the total voltage you are looking for is 8.4 volts).At this point, the battery is about 70% charged.
At this point, you switch to a constant voltage charge.You will notice that the battery voltage will increase beyond the 4.2 volts/cell.You need to watch the voltage often and keep lowering the power supply voltage to maintain the 4.2 volts/cell.
Charging is complete when the current into the battery reaches 10% of the current you started with(If it was 1.4 amps-it should be 0.14 amps). At this point, the battery is 100% charged.
One more important point. Li-Ion batteries do not like to reach zero volts. If you allow this to happen, EVEN ONCE-the battery capacity(It’s amp-hours) will drop to about 30% !!!! The built in battery circuit will turn the battery output off when it’s voltage reaches around 2 volts(Varies w/the manufacturer).You can notice that. Li-Ion batteries stop working abruptly. They do not dim out as they reach the end of discharge.
This is the reason why we do have dedicated chargers for lithium ion battery. I will not recommend this to directly connect this. But to use a CC Cv module to charge it. By setting the max current to 1.2 A. You can read more information on this process here -
www.powerelectronics.com/content/article/21855733/charging-liion-batteries-for-maximum-run-times
@@TheSmarterThings Thank you.
hi can i use it without bms, tp5100 has the battery protection features.And the battery pack you make,that called parallel. and what the need of those 2 diode? thank you in advance
Tp5100 does have any BMS features, it is just a charger. Battery pack is built using 2 battery in series with a partial balance BMS hence it is 2S configuration not parallel. Diodes are used to charge the battery and bypass the input power directly to output load.
thank you.. last one can i use two 12v 0.5 amp device with single xl6007? and if i connected diode above diagram. there was one bypass current directly to the router and xl6007 outpur current goes at same time. that will effect to the circuit?
Yes. Xl6009 is only designed to handle one type of load. If you connect multiple devices, it will fluctuat and ultimately any one of your device starts restarting. I never recommend using this approach
thank you..but what about those diode?
Thanks for the video. It is really great!
I'm curious to know what will be the output voltage when the device is turned on ie. when the Power adaptor is plugged and device is turned on.
As I understand that you have provided direct supply using a diode from positive terminal/DC pin of power adapter, so it directs power to the output terminal. However, I believe the supply from TP5100 and XL6009 will also get directed to the output terminal in the mean time. Will there be any increase in the voltage? Or does TP5100 controls the supply? Or please help to understand how it works?
Correct me if my understanding is wrong.
Thanks alot in advance.
There will be a constant voltage at the output.
12v input 12v out, 9v input 9v out but only if you set the correct voltage on xl6009
Hi Brother... Video is awesome. One simple query, i am not getting shottkey diode. Can i use simple another diode for this project ? Please reply
no. you need the schoty diodes only as it has less voltage drop.
My jio fibre input is 12 volt 2.5 amp.
I have buit 3s2p battery pack. It's output is 11.3 volts which I boosted to 12 volts , when I connect this to jio fibre it's is getting turn on but does not connect to internet.
What can be the reason for this.
Also i have checked output current of battery pack using multimeter it is around 2.3 amps.
Please help
Agar mea ispe 6v ka Sigma battery use karta hu toh koi problem hoga.?
Thank you so much for such useful video. I have one question, I am planning to run one router D-Link the adapter rating is 12V and 0.9Amp router input rating is 0.5A 12 v. But XL6009 says the current rating is max 4 Amp. If I use the same circuit as you, will it damage my router ? Waiting for your response.
Hello, the 4A is the maximum output current of xl6009 at a certain voltage. However, the actual output current depends on the internal resistance of any device. Hence, xl6009 will the only provide the output current to a value your router asks. No need to worry, This device will work fine until the volatge is stable at 12v.
@@TheSmarterThings Thank you. Much Appreciated
Hi... Today I tried making the circuit as given in the video... And make BMS also... But when I connected the +ve and -ve wire if BMS to TO 5100...out put pin... The BMS got heated up drastically... I don't know what's wrong...
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Can i add 2 batteries in parallel and another 2 batttery in parallel, then add them in series to get 7.4 volt. So that i dont have to purchase two BMS for each battery pack. Just to reduce cost. Thanks in advance.
Yes you can do that. But recommended is to. Use 2 seperate bms to balance charge each cell.
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I am adding a HW-384 DC-DC Step Down converter Module, so that i can also use it as a power bank for emergency purpose . Where should i connect the module? In output of XL6009 or output of TP5100? Which one would be better?
Great ! !!!
Thanks sir.
Nice one bro.
Thank you.
Sir would you please tell me the full cost of these thinks which is needed to buy all the things of 2 version ups
it would come around 1200 as shipping charges will be included. Try ti get it in local shop fir cheap build.
Can I use it as powerbank for mobile?
I have a 5V mi wifi router and and 5v output power bank. Normally I'm able to connect my wifi router to power bank and it works. But when power bank is connected to power supply and router simultaneously, then when the power goes or comes back , for a split second the power from power bank to router is cut and router restart. Any solution for uninterrupted power supply from power bank to router when power bank is connected to power supply.
THATS HOW THE POWERBABKS ARE DESIGNED. actually it is possible but, there are two type of ups. Online and offline My Video explains how to Build an online ups which is helpful when you are in meeting and electricity goes off so your devices remians connected and meeting is not interrupted. However if we build a off line ups, it will turn off the router and bring it back online. Such kind of thing can be easily built using a single component ie. Load Switch ic.
But this kind of thing is not useful in most of the cases. however if you want to build it, i can help you to build it in a better way.
Reason of switching behavior while using a power bank :
1. Power bank charging - how the powerbank will be charge that is very critical otherwise it will be drained completely most of the time affecting battery swollen and battery life issue.
2. Switching : Power bank never keeps delivering the power on the usb port. It will only turn on when it see some resistance (load) connected to it. Hence, until you actually put router to draw powrr from the power bank, it will remain.
@@TheSmarterThings Can we use power bank as online UPS with some capacitor or anything so that we don't have any interruption when electricity goes off.
No. That much energy only a battery will store. please don't mix match the applications, power banks are used for different types of applications and ups are used of something else.
mene 2 lithium ion betterys se power bank banaya jo k 9 volt k router per chal nh raha mene series main connection kiye thy lekin router nh chal raha btyen kia masla h.
Maine 12v ka battery pack bana rakha hai, 3 cell series mai laga kar. Discharging hone par uske 12v ko stable rakhne ke liye konsa booster lagana chahiye?
You need a 3s charger not a booster
I have a 12v router and 12v modem, what should i do?
Hi can the ups be connected in always on condition and the ups will kick in when the power goes off. But keeping it connected as always on won't heat the device?
Yes, it can be permanently connected and no heating issue.
Hi Anis... Thanks for reply... Can you also pls. Let me know from where to but the jacks male and female... Because my dnlink router am not able to use for input on ups as the pin is quite thin... And am. Not getting female dc jack for it... In star watt ups I have seen they provide two male to male and 2 female jack with the box... Can I also get those jacks
Such jacks are hard to find. You can reach our to starwatt and confirm the same.
Which method is better, this method or the other method. Is the router always running on the battery or the electricity? Please respond
This is the best method. It switches its power source based on the availability of electricity.
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Thank you
Sir mere pass 9volt ka power bank he Jo mene purchase kia tha but mujhe osse 12volt me convert krna he kese Hoga?
You tested it with 1a router in the video.have you tested with 2a router? i heard the charging module heats up heavily. Can you confirm ?
Yes i tested it with jio modem. Works fine without heating.
I done all correct but red light and blue light always glowing even when it is not connected to 12v adapter. When I disconnect the battery, both light stop glowing. When I supply 12v and turned on the battery pack, it again shows 2 lights glowing. Also I set the boost converter voltage to 12v. But my router doesn't work. When I set it to 10.5 Volts, router works, but only for 10 seconds even if I supply 12 Volts. It resets and starts again and again. My router is rated for 12volts 1 amp
Hi Brother... I am inspired from your video.... But I have a doubt .... I am unable to find Schottky diodes easily... it is costly to buy from amazon only 2 diodes... I am plenty of 1N4007 and L207 diode... can i use them... please tell me urgently ....
Only schottky diodes willl work. If you use any other Diodes, Voltage drop and pwerloss will be more. DEVICE WILL HAVE LESS BACKUP, as you will loose lot of battery energy to reach to breakdown potential.
@@TheSmarterThings thanks... I more doubt.. How to identify a schottky diode... How can i differentiate?
The number only. 1n58xx series ia schottky diode series. But only use 1n5822 diode for this
@@LetsLearnSCADAwithSmruti Hey Brother, Buy it from electronicscomp. I took dc jack male female as well as Schottky Diode from site. Price is 12rs per piece. Also delivery charge is flat 49rs.
when will u come with 2 router ups?
Bro can u make a ups having such features that when 12V supply is there, it works on that and when supply is not there that time it works on battery. And that battery charges on that 12 V adaptor
this is the device which have this feature. When electricity is there it uses adaptor and chargers the battery. If electricity is not there, the device power router from the battery.
@@TheSmarterThings Thank u bro...
I already made old version but face same problem as u described in this video
yes. Based on the feedback of some people , i did research and built this. :)
@@TheSmarterThings Thanks Bro. Your reaserch helps people like us
@@TheSmarterThings If i am using two set of batteries by using two bms. Then is that enough to have one TP 5100 charging module to charge both set of batteries or we have to use two TP 5100 charging module for each set of batteries
Is it necessary to put heat sink on the xl6009... What will happened if I don't put heat sink on the IC... Because I am not getting the heat sink of proper size...
It my overheat and could lead to smoke or less battery backup
Hello . Thanks for video
İ have 1 quistion please
When the adaptör power cut off . The router will still run ? With out restarting and waiting the baterry power ?
Bcs i have seen another videos thats use RELAY and condansator to save power until waiting the baterry power
And if my router 12V 2A how many hour will work with out adaptör . And it can still allive 2year ?
This circuit keeps the ups battery connected, the switch ing done by the schottky diodes. Hence, it will work without starting the router. You can use it as ordinary WiFi router ups.
Yes it will.
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Very informative video. I haven't found anyone on UA-cam making such an elaborative video on LiPo UPS. I have a question for you. I read the datasheet and found TP5100 already comes with all protection features, and it already supports 2S (2 batteries in series). Right? So why do we still need the BMS? And the BMS you are using is a simple BMS with only charge-discharge protection. It doesn't come with a battery protection IC, such as "8254A" (i.imgur.com/gwRqByP.png), like this guy is explaining: ua-cam.com/video/kuEgZELszLk/v-deo.html. He uses almost same approach as yours, but with some tweak which I did not quite understand. What's you though on this? And do you really need a BMS if you are using TP5100?
Two things you need to Google. 1. Are the 12v 2a adaptor is constant current source? well that is not. I don't know why these people make such videos with proper knowledge about the Li Ion batteries. People are not using the apparatus to charge the battery. You can also google why a Li ion battery needs a constant current constant voltage for charging. Simply connecting an adaptor to a balance connector 1. will make the adaptor to overheat 2. blow off the battery. The right approach would be to use Constant current, constant voltage buck module to limit the charging current to to safe limits which will let your battery to charge at safer current. Pushing high current will blow your battery no matter how good you use the bms. 3s Bms will only provide short circuit, over charge, over discharge and balance charging. But it will not protect your battery from high current charging. You can google it out more :).
2. Tp5100 is a constant current constant voltage charge module, As your battery will be discharged from its terminal, not from tp5100, the 2s bms is used there. It also prevents your battery to discharge till the safer limits. If you don't use that battery will be drained completely and might lose its capacity from several thousand discharge cycles to seven discharges in just few days. 8254A is used for 1s configuration, 2s bms have different ic for 2s configuration, check this robu.in/product/2s-8a-18650-7-4v-8-4v-lithium-battery-protection-board/?pid=600732 . Also, if you want to study the bms and batteries, Kindly do some research and read some good research papers on this. This will help you to gain more in depth knowledge on this vast topic.
if u are not using bms and using tp4056, everything fine but it cant sense when to cut off the voltage to stop battery charging as load is also connected to its output terminal in this case it is wifi router, till load is connected battery will be charge and might be get overcharge which can be dangerous, this schematic is much better than previous one. i will definitely
try this.