It’s got noting to with malvi science and technology Muslims took forwards for example bagh dad in the old days before mongols sacked it was advanced of it it’s also Ottoman and Mughals so relax mutar drinker
Pakistan is begging the IMF for $1 billion, how can they afford a space program? India's annual budget is $900 billion and the space program budget is $1.8 billion. That's like 1 years kebab for flood affected Pakistan!!
@@getricked17 It's hilarious, the Indians are out here trying to "flex" on a nation 5x smaller than them. In the meantime the world is going to the stars.
@@getricked17 China's space program is smaller than that of U.S. and you Pakistanis are the ones competing with us....even though there is not a single thing in which you're better than India.
We made a space agency which was among the best in the world, we can do this again as well. Crying over present circumstances will not get us anywhere.
When Indian AI 🤖 Pragyan not successful land moon's north pole , minister of science and technology mr Fawad laugh at India . That's make me unhappy because pakistan don't produce anything and happy if India loose even know India is 11 times stronger than Pakistan in every field .
I have done Masters in Communication engineering from UET in 2019 And Bachelors in Teleocmmunication engineering from FAST university in 2012. The subject of my research nd thesis during my MS was "Satellite Communication" coz I was really really interested in space science. Kafee baray khwaab THAY kay eik time aye ga kay NASA kay liye apply karain gy.. 😅 I have even published "3 research papers" in national scientific journals on this topic. But MS ke degree complete karnay kay baad Pata chala kay Pakistan Mai tho scope Hai he nae.. Halankay unhee dino our neighbor India launched its rocket that unfortunately exploded very near to Mars. So I thought kay Govt of Pakistan must be very serious in this subject since our dear neighbor and starch enemy is focusing so much on that... But I was shocked to know that there had been little or no development in our country in this field for a very longgg long time. And so I had to go abroad to Dubai where I literally worked at a driver's pay scale for 2 years as a telecom engineer.. Lol.. Pher Corona ke wajah say wo bhee khattam ho Gaye & Now back in Pakistan and still looking for job.. Lol.. I even applied at MBR ( Muhammad bin Rashid Space center ) in Dubai and I even uillfilled the requirements or qualifications of the job, but they said that they can't take an expat for such a job. Now I am trying to do IT courses coz apparently space science has no future in Pakistan and abroad they don't admit you in such institutes or at such jobs if You are an expat. UAE side par tho bilkul nae kartay and in Europe and Canada etc first you have to get PR before even applying for such a job.
@@zainalikhan3013 we do have skill sir. I am literally a level 1 space researcher speaking to you rn. 🙂 M sure there must be other guys like me as well.. Though not every much coz this field isn't much popular yet in Pakistan. And budget jab Sara yeh politicians and Generals khud Kah jayen gy tho offocurse ess kay liye budget nae Hoga. 🙂
@@sameerkhan3757 well corruption as bad as it might be,it is the reality, even though we have skilled people like you we don't have the facilities needed like aluminium plant to make the special type of aluminium needed for the rocket nor do we have the technology, I personally think that we can develop all of this with enough effort and passion but we simply don't have the support or capital needed.
@@raaztv4420 feel sad for the country not for us.. Sorry to say but Spare us your sympathy sir.. Coz hamara Kia hai.. We will go abroad and get a much better paying job in shaa Allah.. We have brains and we have knowledge.. Any country would use us for its own benefit especially countries like USA or Canada or UK.. Problem will be for Pakistan when after years & years every other country of the world be having significant space exploration & even armies & weapons in space and Pakistan will be suffering from brain drain. 🙂
This guy misses the single most important point...that there has never been any scientific culture in pakistan ! The society doesn't have any appreciation of science and engineering...or hard work or excellence in any field He is in denial like many pakistanis. Blaming security situation etc...what bs ! India has been faced with a two border security situation since the 70's and they have done amazing things with their space program. India has produced outstanding scientists and engineers since the 50's. Even the sounding rocket test flights by pakistan in 1960s that he refers were all imported ( US provided) sounding rockets. Pakistanis didn't do anything other than launching them as per the guidance document...that too provided by the americans
I have worked at Suparco for 2 years. Its run by old babas who deliberately try to sabotage young talent. Being under federal government might have given it discipline, but they made sure that it is not a priority. Static minded military personnel sitting at the top have no interest in developing it further. In literal sense you can say that dunya chand pe chali gai, aur ye zamin par hi larr rahay hain. Apni jaidaden bananay se farigh hon tou mulk ka sochain. Head to toe corrupt system.
@@akglancemashup380 Left and moved abroad, like many of my colleagues. Suparco hires toppers, just to waste them. So does other similar organisations in Pakistan.
Aap suparco mein kaam kiya hai. Kya aap ko pata hai, 1st Chairman kaun tha, kis majhab ka tha, Pakistan se bhag kyun gaya, ya bhagaya gaya? Aap log Agar hindu, christian, parsi , shikho ko na bhagaya hota, tab aap ko talents milta, desh tarakki karta. Magar La illaha ke naam par sabko maar bhagaya. Technology, science pe dhyan hatake madrassa kholte gaye. Majhab ko gharse , masjid se nikalke galiyon mein le aye, bazaar , chaurah, parliament, school, college, university, khel ke maidan, jungle, pahad, nadiya, hawa, pani sab jaga ghusa diya. Log jahan bhi dekhe unko Allah, khuda, rasul ke alaw aur kuchh nahin dikha. Pakistan fakir bangaya.
Actually suparco 1 of the oldest space program after nasa before india isro but sadly today Pakistan space program is far behind no funding by government
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Pakistan needs to explore it's current financial crisis space exploration will always be a far far fetched dream it would take centuries for us to do that
If we will start this project and complete it in next 5 years so we will be the first Muslim country in the world which will land on the moon. Every one should be proud of us and it has great benefits for Pakistan security and also for Pakistan economy. So Pakistan government should take some steps to revive this project.
Dear TCM.. you should give a little guidance in this regard to guys like me who have done their higher education in this field ( space science or satellite communication) that which govt. departments shall we contact so they can know about us and could use for national programs and for the benefit of the country. It will be really helpful if you guys can do a program on that.. And interview those officials..
Dear Sameer. Don't waste your talent and life with these government department and 'retired maal' officials like the one in this video. They have done nothing except for sitting on their backsides. This guy in video couldn't even explain his thoughts in an organised manner
@@pocketp6384 thanks for your advice sir.. BTW you should read my other comment as well sir.. If you got time. Hope you can give your 2 cents on that as well. 🙂 Have a good day.
brother I am a software developer and if you have any idea for startup even if it is something small scale I would like to work with you. we can build a team. I know it sounds far fetched but at least we can try. if you are interested kindly reply.
When did the pak space program rize i am perplexed to hear Pak ever had a program.... The rehbar seris of rockets launched were on top of American rockets Nike-Cajun....Rockets were American and Pak was a passenger.... Just like India launched sattelites from Soviet Rockets those days
Hamare munh se fauj ka lollypop nikle tab humen aqal ae.fauj humen india kashmir fateh krne ka choran bech bech kha gae hai.Allah he hafiz.hum aik diode tk to bana ni sakay aj tk ye bht door ki bat hai.
How can you have a space program when you don't have a control center to keep your satellite in place though it was launched by china?suparco is a non starter.
Consider shutting down suparco and enabling the private sector to develop and innovate in this space. All the innovation, whether it's space x or Japan's recent launch of a mission to the moon - it's all being done by the private sector now. It's time to recognise that Suparco is a dead horse.
PAKISTAN KA AIK HE PROGRAM HA PAKISTAN KO LOOT KA KHA JAO PAKISTAN KA SARAY IDARAY YA KAM BAKHOBI ANJAM DA RARHAY HAIN RAHA KHILAE PROGRAM TU US PA BHE RESEARCH KE JAI GE KA US KO KASAY LOTA JAI
pehly apni car to bana len, aj tak cd 70 and suzuki bolan k dabby bahar se import horhy hain, is mulk ki priority sirf properties, housing societies, plots waghera banany main hai, ap rehny den apko bohat disappointment hogi in logon se
Wohi ranty rohnny Pakistan ko serious threats thi jis ki wja sy ham traaqi ni kar saky. Yani sirf Pakistan hi important hy puri duniya my. Hamy hamri fooj ny or hukmarnoo ny jaan bhooj kar asy rakha. And we never ever can accomplish that. Simple kue jis mulk my abi tak roti kapra makan ka nara lgta ho whah space program nahi hoty jnab
Earth is flat.tare latak rahe he.aakal ka istemal na karna.good terrorists bad terrorists. Kashmir jihad..Afghanistan jihad.racism based politics like sia ahmadiya... you will never make such a basic space program in the future. be united with the world.leave islam and practice at home
It was neglected because According to Pakistan maulwi Earth is Flat
It’s got noting to with malvi science and technology Muslims took forwards for example bagh dad in the old days before mongols sacked it was advanced of it it’s also Ottoman and Mughals so relax mutar drinker
It’s neglected cuz a miltary man ruling it
It is a shame that Pakistan was the first country in the region to have a space program and we did not realized its potential.
Just need to convert the Shaheen 3 to a Sattellite Launch Vehicle.......
@@justsain3236😂😂😂
@@justsain3236it doesn’t work like that dumb ass 😂
Pakistan is begging the IMF for $1 billion, how can they afford a space program?
India's annual budget is $900 billion and the space program budget is $1.8 billion. That's like 1 years kebab for flood affected Pakistan!!
China's is larger than yours...... Very brave of you lot to stand up to a country 6 times smaller than you 😂
@@getricked17 It's hilarious, the Indians are out here trying to "flex" on a nation 5x smaller than them. In the meantime the world is going to the stars.
@@getricked17 China's space program is smaller than that of U.S. and you Pakistanis are the ones competing with us....even though there is not a single thing in which you're better than India.
We made a space agency which was among the best in the world, we can do this again as well.
Crying over present circumstances will not get us anywhere.
@@getricked17 So is it okay if israel/japan laughs at you guys, considering they are smaller in both land mass and population ?
6:34 nobody helped India in space program India helped himself
Doesn't matter how much degree a Pakistani has , he won't appreciate India honestly.
True but Pakistan need help
Please give your words about RISAT-2B.
When Indian AI 🤖 Pragyan not successful land moon's north pole , minister of science and technology mr Fawad laugh at India . That's make me unhappy because pakistan don't produce anything and happy if India loose even know India is 11 times stronger than Pakistan in every field .
The day we will learn to make proper gutters and their manholes is the day we will start our space program...
True
You mean manholes, not main holes 😊
@@EnnOoNO yup corrected
😂
So true bro
I have done Masters in Communication engineering from UET in 2019 And Bachelors in Teleocmmunication engineering from FAST university in 2012. The subject of my research nd thesis during my MS was "Satellite Communication" coz I was really really interested in space science. Kafee baray khwaab THAY kay eik time aye ga kay NASA kay liye apply karain gy.. 😅 I have even published "3 research papers" in national scientific journals on this topic. But MS ke degree complete karnay kay baad Pata chala kay Pakistan Mai tho scope Hai he nae.. Halankay unhee dino our neighbor India launched its rocket that unfortunately exploded very near to Mars. So I thought kay Govt of Pakistan must be very serious in this subject since our dear neighbor and starch enemy is focusing so much on that... But I was shocked to know that there had been little or no development in our country in this field for a very longgg long time.
And so I had to go abroad to Dubai where I literally worked at a driver's pay scale for 2 years as a telecom engineer.. Lol.. Pher Corona ke wajah say wo bhee khattam ho Gaye & Now back in Pakistan and still looking for job.. Lol.. I even applied at MBR ( Muhammad bin Rashid Space center ) in Dubai and I even uillfilled the requirements or qualifications of the job, but they said that they can't take an expat for such a job. Now I am trying to do IT courses coz apparently space science has no future in Pakistan and abroad they don't admit you in such institutes or at such jobs if You are an expat. UAE side par tho bilkul nae kartay and in Europe and Canada etc first you have to get PR before even applying for such a job.
This field requires a lot of skilled people and a big budget, both of which we don't have.
@@zainalikhan3013 we do have skill sir. I am literally a level 1 space researcher speaking to you rn. 🙂 M sure there must be other guys like me as well.. Though not every much coz this field isn't much popular yet in Pakistan. And budget jab Sara yeh politicians and Generals khud Kah jayen gy tho offocurse ess kay liye budget nae Hoga. 🙂
@@sameerkhan3757 well corruption as bad as it might be,it is the reality, even though we have skilled people like you we don't have the facilities needed like aluminium plant to make the special type of aluminium needed for the rocket nor do we have the technology, I personally think that we can develop all of this with enough effort and passion but we simply don't have the support or capital needed.
@@sameerkhan3757 feel sad for you guys🥲
@@raaztv4420 feel sad for the country not for us.. Sorry to say but Spare us your sympathy sir.. Coz hamara Kia hai.. We will go abroad and get a much better paying job in shaa Allah.. We have brains and we have knowledge.. Any country would use us for its own benefit especially countries like USA or Canada or UK.. Problem will be for Pakistan when after years & years every other country of the world be having significant space exploration & even armies & weapons in space and Pakistan will be suffering from brain drain. 🙂
Retired generals must be employed for reaching into space.
This guy misses the single most important point...that there has never been any scientific culture in pakistan ! The society doesn't have any appreciation of science and engineering...or hard work or excellence in any field
He is in denial like many pakistanis. Blaming security situation etc...what bs ! India has been faced with a two border security situation since the 70's and they have done amazing things with their space program. India has produced outstanding scientists and engineers since the 50's.
Even the sounding rocket test flights by pakistan in 1960s that he refers were all imported ( US provided) sounding rockets. Pakistanis didn't do anything other than launching them as per the guidance document...that too provided by the americans
I have worked at Suparco for 2 years. Its run by old babas who deliberately try to sabotage young talent. Being under federal government might have given it discipline, but they made sure that it is not a priority. Static minded military personnel sitting at the top have no interest in developing it further. In literal sense you can say that dunya chand pe chali gai, aur ye zamin par hi larr rahay hain. Apni jaidaden bananay se farigh hon tou mulk ka sochain. Head to toe corrupt system.
Try NASTP FOR Space division
@@akglancemashup380 Left and moved abroad, like many of my colleagues. Suparco hires toppers, just to waste them. So does other similar organisations in Pakistan.
Agreed.
Aap suparco mein kaam kiya hai. Kya aap ko pata hai, 1st Chairman kaun tha, kis majhab ka tha, Pakistan se bhag kyun gaya, ya bhagaya gaya?
Aap log Agar hindu, christian, parsi , shikho ko na bhagaya hota, tab aap ko talents milta, desh tarakki karta. Magar La illaha ke naam par sabko maar bhagaya. Technology, science pe dhyan hatake madrassa kholte gaye. Majhab ko gharse , masjid se nikalke galiyon mein le aye, bazaar , chaurah, parliament, school, college, university, khel ke maidan, jungle, pahad, nadiya, hawa, pani sab jaga ghusa diya. Log jahan bhi dekhe unko Allah, khuda, rasul ke alaw aur kuchh nahin dikha. Pakistan fakir bangaya.
Even that our missile programme, ordinance product were on more priority with nuclear programme.
Actually suparco 1 of the oldest space program after nasa before india isro but sadly today Pakistan space program is far behind no funding by government
NUke weapon design were gifted by China to Pak. It's not like Pak went Nuke Capable on its own
Pakistani scientists worked in the manhattan project and later helped with the nuclear program.
Dr. Abdul Qadir Khan stolen nuclear technology from Netherlands. Where from you steal space science technology?
India stole nukes from Russia
When u spent 75% off ur budget on na pak fauj genrals u don't have left anything for the rest off the country
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Dean Department of Aerospace and Strategic Studies.
Simple answer
Badmash establishment is one of the big reason behind that
Scientists ki bjaye ink log lgy huay hain
what we have done to over benefactors and patrons like Abdul qadeer and Abdus Salam is so shameful.
Pakistan needs to explore it's current financial crisis space exploration will always be a far far fetched dream it would take centuries for us to do that
Not really centuries..
@@sameerkhan3757 if you say so 😊
Exactly, borrowing money from IMF needs to be stopped first and then taxes need to be sorted before any space.......
If we will start this project and complete it in next 5 years so we will be the first Muslim country in the world which will land on the moon. Every one should be proud of us and it has great benefits for Pakistan security and also for Pakistan economy. So Pakistan government should take some steps to revive this project.
Very nice sir I respect your knowledge and good presentation I'm impressed 👍
Prayers for you brother
One day , pakistan eill achieve his goal Amen❤
Dear TCM.. you should give a little guidance in this regard to guys like me who have done their higher education in this field ( space science or satellite communication) that which govt. departments shall we contact so they can know about us and could use for national programs and for the benefit of the country. It will be really helpful if you guys can do a program on that.. And interview those officials..
Dear Sameer. Don't waste your talent and life with these government department and 'retired maal' officials like the one in this video. They have done nothing except for sitting on their backsides. This guy in video couldn't even explain his thoughts in an organised manner
@@pocketp6384 thanks for your advice sir.. BTW you should read my other comment as well sir.. If you got time. Hope you can give your 2 cents on that as well. 🙂 Have a good day.
brother I am a software developer and if you have any idea for startup even if it is something small scale I would like to work with you. we can build a team. I know it sounds far fetched but at least we can try. if you are interested kindly reply.
@@abdullhaseeb4157
It would be Good effort dear 👍
When did the pak space program rize i am perplexed to hear Pak ever had a program.... The rehbar seris of rockets launched were on top of American rockets Nike-Cajun....Rockets were American and Pak was a passenger.... Just like India launched sattelites from Soviet Rockets those days
Pakistan ka Space program koi tha he nahi... Pakistan k jism say Khoon choosnay ka 1 zarya tha or doosray tariko ki trah !
Weldon, Sir .
Pak army generals dollar khamane mein lgyyy hai onhe space program Sy Kiya fursaat. Paisa sab Kuch hai lkn Yaha sab chotii kr rhe
First accomplish Pakistani People Earth programe then go to space.
Alas people are starving and they are thinking of space.
Banana Republic...
i dont think anyone helped india
Thats their coping mechanism developed via their inferiority complex.
@@AlHindMaskeen No.They tried from their own side
@@AlHindMaskeen No.They tried from their own side
Good opinion sir
Hamare munh se fauj ka lollypop nikle tab humen aqal ae.fauj humen india kashmir fateh krne ka choran bech bech kha gae hai.Allah he hafiz.hum aik diode tk to bana ni sakay aj tk ye bht door ki bat hai.
Very soon India will militarize the space (with ASAT) and only then will it open the eyes of those who have their "Eyes Wide Shut"
If you don't know let me tell you that we already did it missions Shakti.
Already did it 4 years ago son. 😂😂
How can you have a space program when you don't have a control center to keep your satellite in place though it was launched by china?suparco is a non starter.
if private sector comes in how the Generals are going to make money I think they should put SUPARCO under fooji Foundation 🤣😆
Good initiative must go on with this program
Because we nominate ill educated , power and money hungry people
And we don't have food
He himself is a retired Air Commodore...
Consider shutting down suparco and enabling the private sector to develop and innovate in this space. All the innovation, whether it's space x or Japan's recent launch of a mission to the moon - it's all being done by the private sector now. It's time to recognise that Suparco is a dead horse.
SUPARCO makes missile engines, its more military oriented organization.
OK, they should be named 'missile engine company' not SUPARCO@@shhyder
Most of our security issues were created by our own.
In Pakistan you pay for GPS service as well?🤦.... I thought American's had made it a available to everyone for free....😁🤗.....
Now Pakistan space program turn into Pakistan plotting program to generate more money,and move to Canada 🇨🇦 and USA 🇺🇸 😂
Asal may foj or politician khanay may lagay hayn country ko. Khatam Kar Kay chorayngay, waysay bhee Pakistan failed state hay.
Compare the heads of suparco for last 20 years vs ISRO u will find the reason why you are lacking behind india
Anybody explain me individual agr system nhi hai to ye system kia hai jiskai barai mn sir bat kr rhai .. kia wo constitution ko system keh rhai ?
TCM Please Investigate NASTP specially Space division
Very much appreciative process
PAKISTAN KA AIK HE PROGRAM HA PAKISTAN KO LOOT KA KHA JAO PAKISTAN KA SARAY IDARAY YA KAM BAKHOBI ANJAM DA RARHAY HAIN RAHA KHILAE PROGRAM TU US PA BHE RESEARCH KE JAI GE KA US KO KASAY LOTA JAI
As taken over by namaaloom afrad unfortunately to mint funds only
80% to fouj ko jata space pe mango budget lgaty😢
pehly apni car to bana len, aj tak cd 70 and suzuki bolan k dabby bahar se import horhy hain, is mulk ki priority sirf properties, housing societies, plots waghera banany main hai, ap rehny den apko bohat disappointment hogi in logon se
Good job TCM
Space program lol work on buying tea and oil beggars
Pta nhen har bat par china help karega
Allah pak bhe un ki madad karta ha jo apni madad ap karte hen
Exactly. Starving people give two effs about a space program.
Wohi ranty rohnny Pakistan ko serious threats thi jis ki wja sy ham traaqi ni kar saky. Yani sirf Pakistan hi important hy puri duniya my. Hamy hamri fooj ny or hukmarnoo ny jaan bhooj kar asy rakha. And we never ever can accomplish that. Simple kue jis mulk my abi tak roti kapra makan ka nara lgta ho whah space program nahi hoty jnab
Sir bholl jayen itsbpakistan
Earth is flat.tare latak rahe he.aakal ka istemal na karna.good terrorists bad terrorists. Kashmir jihad..Afghanistan jihad.racism based politics like sia ahmadiya... you will never make such a basic space program in the future. be united with the world.leave islam and practice at home
make this guy your science minister rather than Fawad Chaudhry type
Keep appointing retired or serving military officers as Head of departments or organisations and paak fauj zinda baad rest is history