Solaris Urbino Electric should be here! They already entered service in many European cities and from all the electric buses I rode, these Polish beauties were the most stylish ever!
The BYDK9 is my favorite on this list. LFP batteries with 150 miles in an urban environment with solar panels on the roof really seems the most innovative option to me. Hopefully some American manufacturers will soon make a similar bus.
Putting BYD in #10 position is laughable. They have manufacturing in 8 different markets including Europe, North America, South America, India and Africa. NOBODY has more EV Buses on the roads than BYD with 1.2 million units produced so far.
As of January this year, BYD had delivered almost 70,000 electric buses, with the largest bus manufacturer in the World, Yutong, at almost 170,000 electric buses
@@nathanhoo9437 Australia is just as vast as the USA but with only a tenth of the population. It is only political will that will see the transition to zero emission buses that is just starting here in Australia. Regardless of whether a person is in favour of zero emission buses on environmental grounds or not, the lack of noise and vibration compared to diesel buses makes them a superior experience for passengers
Here in bogota, the byd B13S01 is the huge electric bus, it is based on K9 but much better, it has USB charging ports, Wifi, Info Displays, Intelligent Transport System, the only trouble in my opinion, it is not Low entry bus.
I am happy to say that in Finland we use Linkkers, Byds, Youtongs and vdls electric busses mostly in the Helsinki and Turku regions. Just yesterday we got a new operator to the turku region (nobina) that overtook 8 lines and now operates them with byd 15s. We also got some electric busses to 3 other lines, but those are not fully electric yet. Now 1/5 turku's busses are electric. Great video, electric busses are really the future, even here in Finland, where electric cars are not the best.
In China's big cities, Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, and Shenzhen, it is difficult to see fuel buses. 99% of all buses in these cities are electric buses. In Guangzhou, China, hydrogen energy buses have been used. I take hydrogen energy buses to the office almost every day. but hydrogen energy is not used by all buses. Only a few lines in Guangzhou use hydrogen energy. Hydrogen energy is a little louder than electric buses. Others are exactly the same as electric buses.
@@VikingAge tnx, last time I was in 2011 on bicycle from Shenzhen thru Guangzhou all the way to Wuhan and Beijing. I am sure the country will be so different after 12y
Yup. Our EV bus here in Scotland are so good they have to keep the heating off in winter as the old biddy’s don’t get too warm on their way to hospital suffering from hypothermia.
Driven the Proterra.... junk. always broke down, cheap plastic build that rattles nonstop. Luckily there's gov't subsidies to keep them around. The up-time on those barely cracks 60% I'd assume. I mean they are ALWAYS BROKEN! And if you are in an environment where you have to run the climate control alot your batteries will be toast. However you can then purchase a diesel add on climate control system which is what they did at the place I worked. It's basically a big computer built on a MS Vista OS. Get used to having to reboot the bus and then when the shit totally hits the fan, you kill all power and walk to the back to turn the power off and on. Of course you wait 30 seconds before turning the power back on. It's like a three finger salute. And I've driving diesel transit busses that are 20+ years old. No way these things make it 12 years. Off to the scrap yard they will go.
Yutong are the World’s largest bus manufacturer with over 20 years experience building electric buses. So far they produced 170,000 with exports across the World
Warren seems to ignore the big bus manufacturers in Europe, and also Russia, and the Middle East (Iran). The most likely reason is that numbers are difficult to obtain. I have numbers but fear US trading regulators, and they are not published. Here various models by Hyundai and Saipa (Iran) compare well with BYD. The point that must come through is that 200KWh batteries are enough for city use, LiFePO4 batteries are heavy, simple, and cheap. 500KWh will be too heavy.
Unfortunately solar panels do not contribute enough energy to overcome their weight, cost, additional servicing requirements and the compromises to vehicle component layouts. As for wind turbines, the added drag negates the benefits
Unfortunately solar panels do not contribute enough energy to overcome their weight, cost, additional servicing requirements and the compromises to vehicle component layouts
@@warrenyoung7991 Wrong. But they can just contribute. Say that a bus roof is 3m wide, 12m long.= 36 square meters, at 21% efficiency = 7,56KW max. In a day, the roof will generate 25KWh n a sunny day. With 0.8KW/km the solar panels have generated the electricity needed for 30km. It is not a "range extender", but a way to charge the bus also while it is parked and not used - doing nothing. Maybe the Monday ride will be free.
@@knuth.1660 unfortunately the available space is much less due to the air conditioning which has condenser fans on top prohibiting PV cells and the batteries that take up much of the roof that are also not practical for PV cells. The output of the PV cells are also effected by dirt etc. with bus roofs not cleaned
These "new" buses are not actually new. They're all built on obsolete chassis and suspension. Their capacity is suitable only during rush hours. They are unsuitable for stop-n-go circuitous routes. Standard Yellow School Bus and paratransit lift-vans fleets (sans lift) should also be electrified starting with easy boarding low-floor chassis in shorter wheelbase lengths for 15- 20- 30-passenger models with battery packs in the floor rather than the roof for lower center of gravity to improve handling, safety and ride comfort. They should all have a wide rear window and clear glass instead of tinted.
@@peterbijvelds "busses" drive in cities, and average speed is 30km/h - max is 50km/h but mandatory dash n the motorway requires 80 km/h. They do not drive routes for more than 1 hour because then they would miss their scheduled arrivals. Max "range" needed is 50km. But with 1KWh per KM - this requires big batteries, as much as 400KWh. A Tesla X has 100KWh and NI ES8 has 150KWh, and buses should have enough for an entire day - 400km at 50km/h - using 1KW per km.
@@knuth.1660 our Yutong electric buses are already capable of easily covering over 420km in typical urban environments with energy usage normally about 0.85kW consumed per kilometre. On higher speed routes with less stop/start, we have consistently seen between 0.65 and 0.7kW per kilometre to give a real world range of 500km from a 422kWh battery recharged before 12% SOC
@@warrenyoung7991 But there is no bus route anywhere that is 500km. Buses drive 30-40km and return. Publish the statistics from real-world buses and actual use - with a number of passengers. When a coach bus has driven 400km, the driver must rest, this is the law in Europe (and should be in the USA). Use your figure, 0.7KWh/km = 280KWh, which can be charged at 350KW in less than the resting period of 40 minutes. It is only on UA-cam that people drive all day and night. They don't drive for a living, they are paid to post videos here. We manufacture 200KWh battery modules, and it is important to "split" so they can be charged by 2 chargers - and LiFePO4 can be used - cheaper.
@@knuth.1660 this is where your experience is different to mine. In Australia, our city buses are commonly doing 400km over two 8 hour shifts with multiple drivers. There is no time to recharge if it is an electric bus to keep them comparable to diesel buses. In some operations with higher average speeds, the distance travelled can be higher
These transit buses need to come in all sizes, to meet different demand volumes throughout the day. Having one passenger on the entire bus is very wasteful no matter what energy you are using
Great buses. Looks like in a few years...the planet won't have pollution in all major cities. Hopefully, bus fares will also be nominal since it's fossil fuel free 👍
Don’t take this the wrong way, but I might lose interest of buses once the electric buses take over. Diesel and CNG buses(especially CNGs) were part of my life from Day 1 but we gotta move on however.
@@ajaytransitproductions Electric doesnt seem like the future. Hydrogen is as the infostructure is there. I just hope that people can stop looking a electric as a way to power vehicles and look at hydrogen
@@ajaytransitproductions our Yutong U12 and E12 are engineered to cope with -40degC. In operation, very little difference to battery performance has been witnessed due to the temperature management systems and insulation in place but as the World’s largest bus manufacturer with over 20 years and 170,000 electric buses delivered to all parts of the globe, why would you expect any different?
All Busses on this planet should be converted to fully electric very fast during the next 4 years maximum! We really have to get rid of the Diesel motors!
Yeeeeeeeees. I'm tired of lowering my car:a windows then to be blasted by a screen of smokes fcking my lungs up and contaminating the interior of my vehicle.
@@StebanHern you see, that is something I call, *bad maintenance*. I don’t know where you live, rather if it’s the United States, Canada, China, I don’t know, but what I do know is they not suppose to blast that much smoke. If that’s the case, the bus is either on its last legs and needs to be replaced immediately, or the company isn’t taking care of the bus.
@@warrenyoung7991 Shenzen - in China has shown how it works.. they operatre more than 30000 Electric Busses - set in service in 1 month only! Of course it takes some time to produce them, but the fear of not beeing able to operate them has been put away fast! It really works very well. So I don't get it, why bus companies are so much holding back in converting to electric busses! We should stop torching public with poluted air from busses!
@@timothy4011 As long as you pay for it, and don't stick us the taxpayers and working people with the bill, like they did for that rich peoples' car, the Tesla.
@@8834 Oh, yes, we have three large ones nearby, in St. Johns, Joseph City, and Springerville. It´s the Cholla plant in Joseph City 😆that sends electricity to California for their electric cars and busses. Burn coal, baby, burn coal!
Solaris Urbino Electric should be here! They already entered service in many European cities and from all the electric buses I rode, these Polish beauties were the most stylish ever!
That's right because the Solaris urbino electric and Hybrid are in Barcelona ( Spain )
Basque CAF bought it I think
@@asiersanz8941 yeah you right
Me too! In Frankfurt are some, and they are AMAZING, The had ad the start the same paint as the ebusco 2.2 Bc same city!
where Solaris Urbino Electric ?
E-mobility european leader ?
exactly, it's a leader of electrobus in Europe
Europian leader to be burnt easily too
The BYDK9 is my favorite on this list. LFP batteries with 150 miles in an urban environment with solar panels on the roof really seems the most innovative option to me. Hopefully some American manufacturers will soon make a similar bus.
Putting BYD in #10 position is laughable. They have manufacturing in 8 different markets including Europe, North America, South America, India and Africa. NOBODY has more EV Buses on the roads than BYD with 1.2 million units produced so far.
As of January this year, BYD had delivered almost 70,000 electric buses, with the largest bus manufacturer in the World, Yutong, at almost 170,000 electric buses
BYD doesn’t put much effort when it comes to quality though
كم سعر الحافله
BYD stands for: Build Your Depressions
Create your own content if that isn't enough for you
I'm surprised a bus from BYD is mentioned. But also surprised only one North American manufacturer is mentioned in the video
America is not enthusiastic in buidling E bueses, I guess there land is too vast and population density is low...E bus not useful.
@@nathanhoo9437 Australia is just as vast as the USA but with only a tenth of the population.
It is only political will that will see the transition to zero emission buses that is just starting here in Australia.
Regardless of whether a person is in favour of zero emission buses on environmental grounds or not, the lack of noise and vibration compared to diesel buses makes them a superior experience for passengers
What about KAMAZ-6282?
A brand New electrobus that was built to replace old trolleybuses?
По факту, не назвали автобус, который является самым многочисленным в парке европы. жыеесть
we should keep and build more trolleybuses
@@simunpusec1078 couldn't agree more! Trolleybus is not that old to be replaced.
Here in bogota, the byd B13S01 is the huge electric bus, it is based on K9 but much better, it has USB charging ports, Wifi, Info Displays, Intelligent Transport System, the only trouble in my opinion, it is not Low entry bus.
I prefer classic trolleybuses with overhead wires. It is OK to use battery for short distances and for emergency reasons.
I am happy to say that in Finland we use Linkkers, Byds, Youtongs and vdls electric busses mostly in the Helsinki and Turku regions. Just yesterday we got a new operator to the turku region (nobina) that overtook 8 lines and now operates them with byd 15s. We also got some electric busses to 3 other lines, but those are not fully electric yet. Now 1/5 turku's busses are electric. Great video, electric busses are really the future, even here in Finland, where electric cars are not the best.
I had an opportunity to ride many e-buses. But, Solaris is exceptional one
See Buses From London UK Now!!! Absolutely No Words!!! Amazing!!! Amazing!!!
In China's big cities, Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, and Shenzhen, it is difficult to see fuel buses. 99% of all buses in these cities are electric buses. In Guangzhou, China, hydrogen energy buses have been used. I take hydrogen energy buses to the office almost every day. but hydrogen energy is not used by all buses. Only a few lines in Guangzhou use hydrogen energy. Hydrogen energy is a little louder than electric buses. Others are exactly the same as electric buses.
i agree. China is years ahead of everyone else. I plan to go to Shenzhen again just to see the progress they made
@@dejanzafiro ok , welcome friend .I live in Shenzhen but working in Guangzhou city.
@@VikingAge tnx, last time I was in 2011 on bicycle from Shenzhen thru Guangzhou all the way to Wuhan and Beijing. I am sure the country will be so different after 12y
The Mercedes Benz shown is not the E-Citaro, but the Mercedes Benz C2 from 2012
Moscow has Europe's biggest fleet of electric busses KAMAZ (more than London, Paris or Berlin) and it is not even metioned.
VDL and EBUSCO are proudly dutch made.
Yeah but fuck Russia
the BYD at 1:28 is a K7 not a K9 btw!!
We need this in our downtown area
Where is the VDL CITEA-E in your vid?
They forgot to introduce Yutong E12, as they're great electric buses.
Yeah we have it in finland
The Mercedes-Benz Citaro G wasn't an eCitaro G, it was a standard Diesel Citaro G... 🤦
and not a Citario either
the future is here,0 noise and air pollution
And Minnesota has found it to be anDISASTER!
Yup. Our EV bus here in Scotland are so good they have to keep the heating off in winter as the old biddy’s don’t get too warm on their way to hospital suffering from hypothermia.
Does anybody now how much rhese EV buses start from?
Interesting! I hope our CLING bus HVAC electric A/C system can serve not only Yutong bus, but also others.
Nice
I wish there was Yutong E12 and E12EE (double decker)
Driven the Proterra.... junk. always broke down, cheap plastic build that rattles nonstop. Luckily there's gov't subsidies to keep them around. The up-time on those barely cracks 60% I'd assume. I mean they are ALWAYS BROKEN! And if you are in an environment where you have to run the climate control alot your batteries will be toast. However you can then purchase a diesel add on climate control system which is what they did at the place I worked. It's basically a big computer built on a MS Vista OS. Get used to having to reboot the bus and then when the shit totally hits the fan, you kill all power and walk to the back to turn the power off and on. Of course you wait 30 seconds before turning the power back on. It's like a three finger salute. And I've driving diesel transit busses that are 20+ years old. No way these things make it 12 years. Off to the scrap yard they will go.
Trolleybus!?
Nice new video .Hope there more.
wires are more efficient than batteries.
Where is very popular in Europe Solaris?
3:33 it's not called ecitario its an e citaro! And this is the diesel/hybrid variant, not the e bus variant! Please, make a remake
The Abellio Wrightbus, Go away E400 EV, E200 EV, and Abellio Caetano should be added
If there anything like the electric bus that caught fire and blue itself up in Paris, then I won't be using them.
3:29 It's called an "eCitaro G" not "eCitario G", also the bus in the video is a Citaro C2 G, not an eCitaro G!
YAY!!! FRANKFURTS E BUSCOS WHICH I WAS IN!
EBUSCO nr. 1 in the World
How many units has each brand sold? Used where?
Yutong are the World’s largest bus manufacturer with over 20 years experience building electric buses.
So far they produced 170,000 with exports across the World
I think maybe the creator goes of buses that he knows, and hasn’t even considered any of Otokars buses, Karsans buses, BMC’s buses or even TEMSA’s
Ebusco belong to which country?
And now Brazil builds electric buses in their own technology like: Marcopolo attivi and Caio emillenium Eletra
Putting BYD and Proterra on the list but no mention of New Flyer or Gillig.
VDL should’ve be in it
Warren seems to ignore the big bus manufacturers in Europe, and also Russia, and the Middle East (Iran). The most likely reason is that numbers are difficult to obtain. I have numbers but fear US trading regulators, and they are not published. Here various models by Hyundai and Saipa (Iran) compare well with BYD. The point that must come through is that 200KWh batteries are enough for city use, LiFePO4 batteries are heavy, simple, and cheap. 500KWh will be too heavy.
Solar panels and mini wind turbines can be added on the busses to extend range or reduce battery weight.
No solar panels seem to be adding just a minor amount, it doesn't weigh up against the costs, and its vulnerable.
@@gronz Don't spoil his wet green dream, will you...
Mini wind turbines? Where?
Unfortunately solar panels do not contribute enough energy to overcome their weight, cost, additional servicing requirements and the compromises to vehicle component layouts.
As for wind turbines, the added drag negates the benefits
VDL and EBUSCO are very good. Proudly dutch made.
Where is man's city 12e electric bus ?
*They are perfect to have solar panels on the roof*
Unfortunately solar panels do not contribute enough energy to overcome their weight, cost, additional servicing requirements and the compromises to vehicle component layouts
@@warrenyoung7991 Wrong. But they can just contribute. Say that a bus roof is 3m wide, 12m long.= 36 square meters, at 21% efficiency = 7,56KW max. In a day, the roof will generate 25KWh n a sunny day. With 0.8KW/km the solar panels have generated the electricity needed for 30km. It is not a "range extender", but a way to charge the bus also while it is parked and not used - doing nothing. Maybe the Monday ride will be free.
@@knuth.1660 unfortunately the available space is much less due to the air conditioning which has condenser fans on top prohibiting PV cells and the batteries that take up much of the roof that are also not practical for PV cells.
The output of the PV cells are also effected by dirt etc. with bus roofs not cleaned
These "new" buses are not actually new. They're all built on obsolete chassis and suspension. Their capacity is suitable only during rush hours. They are unsuitable for stop-n-go circuitous routes. Standard Yellow School Bus and paratransit lift-vans fleets (sans lift) should also be electrified starting with easy boarding low-floor chassis in shorter wheelbase lengths for 15- 20- 30-passenger models with battery packs in the floor rather than the roof for lower center of gravity to improve handling, safety and ride comfort. They should all have a wide rear window and clear glass instead of tinted.
I did not see any New Flyer of America bud on here this is the factory I work at. In Crookston Minasota.
This is America, if it isn't gas or diesel then good luck.
Those who can innovate long distance capacity battery
&
Affordable price
They are the champions
I think china will do wonder in this scenario
EBUSCO
@@peterbijvelds "busses" drive in cities, and average speed is 30km/h - max is 50km/h but mandatory dash n the motorway requires 80 km/h. They do not drive routes for more than 1 hour because then they would miss their scheduled arrivals. Max "range" needed is 50km. But with 1KWh per KM - this requires big batteries, as much as 400KWh. A Tesla X has 100KWh and NI ES8 has 150KWh, and buses should have enough for an entire day - 400km at 50km/h - using 1KW per km.
@@knuth.1660 our Yutong electric buses are already capable of easily covering over 420km in typical urban environments with energy usage normally about 0.85kW consumed per kilometre.
On higher speed routes with less stop/start, we have consistently seen between 0.65 and 0.7kW per kilometre to give a real world range of 500km from a 422kWh battery recharged before 12% SOC
@@warrenyoung7991 But there is no bus route anywhere that is 500km. Buses drive 30-40km and return. Publish the statistics from real-world buses and actual use - with a number of passengers. When a coach bus has driven 400km, the driver must rest, this is the law in Europe (and should be in the USA). Use your figure, 0.7KWh/km = 280KWh, which can be charged at 350KW in less than the resting period of 40 minutes. It is only on UA-cam that people drive all day and night. They don't drive for a living, they are paid to post videos here. We manufacture 200KWh battery modules, and it is important to "split" so they can be charged by 2 chargers - and LiFePO4 can be used - cheaper.
@@knuth.1660 this is where your experience is different to mine.
In Australia, our city buses are commonly doing 400km over two 8 hour shifts with multiple drivers. There is no time to recharge if it is an electric bus to keep them comparable to diesel buses. In some operations with higher average speeds, the distance travelled can be higher
Interesting video, but kWh is kilowatt*hours, not kilowatt per hour or kW/hour.
least the Saltwell Park vehicle from Go North East makes an appearance there is 8 of them all now in company colours at Go North East
Your list just got smaller, ProTerra just filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection!
There will be Electric Bus with Wireless Rechaging in Tel-Aviv.
The pictures of E Citaro G are wrong!
3:33 Thats not a eCitaro G, its the normal Citaro G.
Tata’s electric buses should be here. They are present in almost all Tier 1 and 2 cities and several tier 3 cities in India.
Thanks to China
You should show Yutong E12 and E12DD! There are very silent and very eco-ish but very cold..
Pandan bread
cold because of our air conditioning system,,,,,sorry dude.
They will only be cold if they are not operating the heat component of the climate control
These transit buses need to come in all sizes, to meet different demand volumes throughout the day. Having one passenger on the entire bus is very wasteful no matter what energy you are using
Maybe add the linkker LM312
I think this is a great thing for the environment
In china buses 100% are electric bus
not true, at present at most 30% though the figure is rising
3:35 im German Bus Videographer - Thats a normal Citaro G with Diesel. At my Channel you See the real ECitaro
Number 9 - where are the windows? O_O
Where are karson electric bus
😅BYD is the best❤
Where is solaris urbino electric? Solaris is a leader in production of electric buses.( in europe)
This list should be a lot bigger. Should mention other models of Mercedes, Kamaz Chinese and Korean brands. Not an objective overview.
Irizar bus electric??????
It is the most spectacular electric bus in Europe by far
What about Alstom Aptis?
Great buses. Looks like in a few years...the planet won't have pollution in all major cities. Hopefully, bus fares will also be nominal since it's fossil fuel free 👍
Where is VDL Citea?
What's Prices
5:34 This is the Diesel Citaro G, but ok
You need to visit Uganda electric buses which travel 300km one charge. By national Bus MAKER KIRA MOTORS
ELECTRIC BUS IS FUTURE BUS
LOWLANDER IS BEST BUS AND ALWAYS WILL BE
I don't like them, because they don't have engine sounds.
The Gepebus Oreos 4x is a small midi Bus driving in Paris and has nothing to do with the buses shown
Prices
What about Hess LighTram?
Number 1 👉(KARSAN)🇹🇷
The transportation world is ok as it is.
what about the radiation inside the bus? is the driver safe?
Don’t take this the wrong way, but I might lose interest of buses once the electric buses take over. Diesel and CNG buses(especially CNGs) were part of my life from Day 1 but we gotta move on however.
I know but I do believe that electric buses are a better idea than electric cars are.
@@Matt-di6nb yeah true. But Electric buses really don’t preform well in the winter… Batteries die too quickly.
@@ajaytransitproductions Electric doesnt seem like the future. Hydrogen is as the infostructure is there. I just hope that people can stop looking a electric as a way to power vehicles and look at hydrogen
@@Matt-di6nb yeah I heard some interesting things about hydrogen.
@@ajaytransitproductions our Yutong U12 and E12 are engineered to cope with -40degC.
In operation, very little difference to battery performance has been witnessed due to the temperature management systems and insulation in place but as the World’s largest bus manufacturer with over 20 years and 170,000 electric buses delivered to all parts of the globe, why would you expect any different?
Wtf, who knows that brand at nr 2 and 3? I think the pool of buses researched for this video is very limited. Yutong U12 still nr 1, really?
Really
@@warrenyoung7991 wrong
How about Gemini 2 Hybrid and Gemini 3 Hybrid
Those are hybrids…
E CITARIO👀
10 electric buses help change the world? Ok
My country logo sbs transit yay!
They are going to change the world alright. Not in a good way.
It's gonna be fire, literally!
All Busses on this planet should be converted to fully electric very fast during the next 4 years maximum! We really have to get rid of the Diesel motors!
Yeeeeeeeees. I'm tired of lowering my car:a windows then to be blasted by a screen of smokes fcking my lungs up and contaminating the interior of my vehicle.
All buses and taxis in Shenzhen, China are electric.
@@StebanHern you see, that is something I call, *bad maintenance*. I don’t know where you live, rather if it’s the United States, Canada, China, I don’t know, but what I do know is they not suppose to blast that much smoke. If that’s the case, the bus is either on its last legs and needs to be replaced immediately, or the company isn’t taking care of the bus.
Nice sentiment but not practical unfortunately
@@warrenyoung7991 Shenzen - in China has shown how it works.. they operatre more than 30000 Electric Busses - set in service in 1 month only! Of course it takes some time to produce them, but the fear of not beeing able to operate them has been put away fast! It really works very well. So I don't get it, why bus companies are so much holding back in converting to electric busses! We should stop torching public with poluted air from busses!
宇通！
BYD E400s?
👍👍
Yes, and here in the Four Corners of Arizona, we proudly burn the coal that generates electricity for such vehicles!
Ugh 🤢 🤮 . Hopefully the US will one day rely on solar power more, so you’ll all be jobless. Ugh.
@@timothy4011 As long as you pay for it, and don't stick us the taxpayers and working people with the bill, like they did for that rich peoples' car, the Tesla.
Y’all are still burning coal? 💀
@@8834 Oh, yes, we have three large ones nearby, in St. Johns, Joseph City, and Springerville. It´s the Cholla plant in Joseph City 😆that sends electricity to California for their electric cars and busses. Burn coal, baby, burn coal!
Citaro not Citario
yutong has bad seats in Tampere 🤢
Cambiar el mundo , para mejor o para conveniencia de alguna corporación ?
Que pregunta más estúpido?
I would like but I don't want to ruin the 666