You know the beginning of Blade Runner, where you see explosions going off throughout the city? I always assumed in the future it was gang wars and police battling. Nope, it's EVs cooking off.
You think the batteries exploded without reason??? Probably because it was not made clear in the video that the semi driver ran of the road into some trees causing the batteries to fail,
Driver dies after Tesla Cybertruck slams into culvert, bursts into flames in Baytown area, DPS says ua-cam.com/video/Dfx4JZiSeHI/v-deo.html Tesla CT vs the US on annual car fire fatality Tesla CT: number 1 US registered cars: 280 million; mean age: 10 years; annual fire fatality 600 Tesla CT fire fatality is 16 times higher than average vehicles.
@@AlbertZonneveld It was made perfectly clear the truck ran off the road into some trees. You seem to be missing the point that lithium is an unstable element which explodes when it comes into contact with water, including the small amount contained in our planets atmosphere. ffs, cell phones and scooters have burned down buildings because of sudden thermal runaway and their batteries are tiny. In case you still don't get it, the problem isn't the electric vehicle per se but the lithium battery it uses. Nobody cares about the inefficient truck on the road - we just laugh at the idiots who own them. No, we have a problem with the unstable toxic bomb that is waiting for a pothole to explode sitting right next to us at the red light.
@@pigpuke This time it was a crash that leed to an Thermal Runaway but what if an electrical event happend that destroy the Battery Managment System ( bms ) , you wil also get an Thermal Runaway . Ever heard of the Carrington Event from 1859 , that was a Coranal Mass Ejection ( CME ) and it released an Geo Induced Current ( GIC ) , that current went thru the ground and thru the air and it fried the telecommunications and shocked the operators . Something like that happend also in 1989 in Canada , it fried an hydro electric plant . Something like that will happen with in a few decades , more sooner than later , think about all these boms that stand an riding everywhere .
Especially in California. It's amazing that this Tesla semi was allowed on that highway with It's gradients, curves and it's sensitive watershed. Local ski resorts are under strick regulations regarding how much snow they can clear from their parking lots due to water quality runoff. So, by the time this single stupid experiment in EV freight hauling is over all those years of water quality efforts will be for not.
I've always suspected that one of the requirements to be an elected official is to have had a lobotomy. The politicians who push these projects rely on the fact that most voters are willingly ignorant--to lazy to do their own research.
Why would it be so difficult to form governments of common sense people surrounded by the most intelligent in their sphere of expertise. The reason is money and corruption
@@id10t98Lol. Smartest. Yea. A car that takes a bigger mining footprint. A car that is designed for people that have driveways. And ignores everyone else. Very egalitarian. A car that takes 500% longer to refuel than its ICE equivalent. A car that sets the agenda where you must stop and eat on road trips and not the other way around. Isn’t the future.
@@roger_is_red I see we have another ignorant ev fanboy....OOPS. Sorry Rober, forgot to ask whether you're a male or femalel Not that I care but you seem to be a bit stressed. Thought you might be pregnant.
@@SANDIEGOSH1Tif people started saying blabla hater.. you know you’re dealing with unsecure losers without any good arguments! 😒 the so-called useful idiots and their “green” eco-socialist utopian ideology.. so sad!
prove to me taking hydrocarbons locked in the ground during the carboniferous periode and putting them in to the air will do nothing to the environment.
It sounds as though the media had no interest in reporting the fire. Where are the pictures amd videos? Where were the obvious questions about the cause of the accident? Was the driver OK? Did they have a medical emergency and crash? Were they drunk? Were they foolishly trying to avoid an animal in the road? Was the truck on autopilot? What was being done to deal with that toxic runoff water? How big was the cloud of toxic gas? Why did firefighters even waste the effort to hose down the truck when they should have merely used their water to keep the surrounding woods from burning? How many gallons of water were used? Did the firefighters have to wear oxygen masks the entire time to protect themselves from the toxic gases? Exactly how toxic are the gases? Was a 1/2 mile clearance sufficient to protect other drivers from the toxic gases? How large was the battery? Have any other Tesla Semis ever caught fire? How many Tesla semis are on the road? Are there any legal restrictions on where Tesla semis can operate? Do current Tesla semis have autopilot? Any restrictions on its use? Any trucks crash while on autopilot? Where are the batteries of the Tesla semi located? Where is a cutaway/see through rendering of the truck showing the size and location of the battery? Was the truck loaded? What was it hauling? What were the road conditions? Did the trailer burn up with the cab? Was the cargo lost? Is the cargo now contaminated from the toxic gases and water? Were any firefighters injured? How many trucks responded? Were there any hydrants nearby to replenish water or did firetrucks have to rotate in and out to go refill? Were the local fire departments even prepared to handle such a fire from training, number of personnel, and equipment perspectives? So many questions that an inquisitive reporter would have asked. So where were such reporters?
Exactly! I believe that CA is so committed to the whole net zero idea that they have control of the news cycle. Case in point, back in May of this year, in Otay Mesa, east of San Diego, a fire erupted in a battery power storage facility. This complex is huge with a number of large buildings full of batteries. To the east, in the desert the state and their power company partners, have amassed a huge array of solar panels, massive acreage. To make the scheme work they need the battery warehouses to supply electricity when the sun isn't shinning. So, this fire burned on and off, as lithium batteries do, fire crews stationed there for a number of weeks simply keeping it contained as all the toxic gases and contaminated fire hose water drifted, and percolated into the surrounding environment. Here's the kicker, did you ever hear about it? My daughter-in-law lives 10-20 miles to the east of El Cajon and when I asked her if she knew about it she only had a vague recollection of a warehouse fire and something about batteries. It should have been a national news item.
@@markthomas207 I vaguely recall hearing about it, but I get EV and lithium battery fire videos in my UA-cam feed since I follow MGuy, StacheD, and John Cadogan.
It was reported with video on several Sacramento news stations and I'm seeing those videos in my feed because that's where I am, you'd probably have to search them out.
You should be careful about banning things. What's needed is to stop the government pressure to adopt an inappropriate tech. Then the market and rational heads will do the rest. If you ban things, you give fuel to the argument that you're just banning it because you don't want it.
You stated that EV Trucks using a 1-MW charger would take over one-hour to charge. There is an estimated 2.9 million semi-trucks registered in the United Stated. I retired as a nuclear reactor operator. My last shift, we were generating 1,270 MW when I left. That would charge only 1270 trucks per hour. If we could keep that up for 24-hrs, a total of 30,480 trucks could be charged in a single 24-hr day from one nuclear power plant. You would need 95 new nuclear power plants just to charge all the EV semi-trucks. Now add into that all box delivery trucks, the EV cars. The current and existing power plants are already supply business and homes. So what do we do? We built AI data centers that required even more electricity for something that we don't need unlike supposedly EVs that are going to save the planet. A wind turbine might produce 3 MW when the wind blows. That would mean you would need one wind turbine for every 72 trucks or 40,277 new wind turbines, If the wind blows 24-hrs a day at just the right speed. If you want to save the planet outlaw AI data centers and Bitcoin mining operations unless that can run solely on wind and solar.
The most irresponsible power source in human history, on so many levels, one glaring one is that we'd need + - 500 in the US near pop areas, what is one of the first 'key' targets in W- xxx- A- (R) ?
I see the Data building you talk about have massive HVAC unit I assume required a massive amount of energy. Even if we could go fully EV the amount of heat energy people will use thinking energy is free will cook the planet. Energy can't be created nor destroyed. Everything is borrowed so we have to save for the next.
Stop calling them "our government". They are regimes that rule without asking anyone for their opinion. Regimes that are made up of corrupt liars and that don't care about the people.
It's unbelievable how the public are completely ignorant of the level of automation coming in the next few decades. These trucks will drive themselves, be unloaded by robotics, loaded by robotics, from factories run entirely by robotics .... we are already 70% of the szy there. Wake up.
The irony here, is that in some places in the US, little battery bicycles are banned from certain nature reserves and trails. The reason?.......Their batteries may spontaneously ignite and cause a wildfire......Remember, if it wasn't for double standards, the Authorities would have none at all...
Earlier this month, New York Fire Commissioner Laura Kavanagh announced that lithium-ion batteries have recently become a leading cause of fires and fire deaths in New York City and that the problem is growing nationwide.
Apparently the CO2 from vehicles, an ESSENTIAL gas for plants, is considered a ‘climate crisis’ by the misleading millions, even though it is at its lowest level ever, only a tenth of what it was when dinosaurs were around. And guess what, there were no deserts then. It was verdant everywhere. And no ice caps. Of course they’re melting, we are still at the end of an ice age! They should be melting!
Unfortunately, with politicians and their virtue signaling, there's little chance of stopping the insanity. I think we're going to have to rely on the insurance industry to get this thing under control. If you can't insure it, or the premiums are so prohibitive that it doesn't make sense, we have a sliver of a chance.
Yes, but the insurance companies will ‘share’ the cost via premiums for ICE cars. As long as the industry sticks together, nothing will change from an EV perspective. If & when one company throws down and refuses to insure, or chooses to charge appropriate premiums for, EVs, then the others will follow suit…maybe.
I think that government in this country is so big and all powerful, that I don't think they will let an insurance company get in the way of their plans. So, they will simply co-opt them. They have already done so with medical insurance, United Healthcare, Humana all the big companies make billions through part C Medicare plans. They will give them a choice, play our game, we give you subsidies to offset your costs, or we bring the power of IRS audits and make your continuing existence questionable. I am sure the major automobile manufacturers were not all eager to start making EVs, but the federal government offered billions in loans so that they could, and would! They all appear to be selling their EVs at a considerable loss, it's like the government completely controls them Soviet Union style.
According to data from global automotive intelligence firm S&P Global Mobility, cited by UA-cam channel EV Buyers Guide, approximately 70 per cent of Tesla owners who buy a new car opt for another Tesla model.
Oh sheet, I hadn't even thought about the run off in the event of an EV fire. In the small country town where I live the council have recently installed a double charging station out 50M UPHILL from a creek, which feeds into, eventually, the bay. SHEET! I am going to ask the CFA and council what their contingency plans are in the event of an EV fire at the site.
The run-off was my biggest concern as well. We think microplastics in the water is bad, just wait until this "battery water" backfires like a nuclear radiation crisis from a science fiction horror story. I think it should be mandatory that every city has a plan set up for this run-off. Fine someone responsible millions for each cleanup, but money can never undo this type of damage. Of course, the plan should be to not let these EV's on the road to catch fire the first place, so as to then pollute to the extreme while we wait for it to burn for hours shutting everything down nearby, every time on of those fragile, complicated batteries has a bad day.
Before the EVangelists start their usual mud slinging and scream that batteries are great and that at least 293 petrol and diesel tankers have burst into flames every week since the year 1588, I'll say (again) that petrol and diesel fuel is designed to burn. That's its job. A battery is not meant to burn. Ever. We're told constantly that EVs are completely safe, better than ICE vehicles in every way, and are also kind to animals and donate their spare clothes and food to charity. Cobblers. Propaganda. An EV fire represents a catastrophic failure of the battery management and protection systems. It's something that should never, ever happen - like both engines falling off a jet airliner - and when it does, it deserves to be headline news.
Just for balance, look for tanker fire I-95 in May this year. Road damaged, bridge has to be demolished and rebuilt. Main highway closed for days. Masses of toxic fumes given off. ICE, safe as houses...not!😅
Keep up the pressure on Govt's. and pollies MGUY. These things should NOT be allowed to be manufactured!!! 900Kilowatt hours!!! MAN, how much potential energy is stored in that battery!!! No wonder it burned for hours. Human lives and society at large (including the environment) should NOT be used as test beds for this emerging technology!!
Now imagine that happening in bad weather like thick fog on a motorway/highway you get a multiple pile up accident and one of these EV lorries or EV cars are included - your trapped in your car you think the emergency services will be able to come get you out, NO YOU'RE GOING TO BURN ONCE THESE LITHIUM BATTERIES GOES INTO THERMAL RUNAWAY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR IT . Petrol or Diesel vehicles can be put out in minutes ANY EV vehicle can not.
Just found the report and witnessed once again the devastation these EV's are causing. Its only a matter of time before they become impossible to insure and this ridiculous battery experiment comes to an end.
To put this in perspective when I worked in the utility industry typical generation units produced about 500 Megawatts. The largest nucllear units were 1200 MW. When you mentioned a 900 KW charger, close to 1 MW, the absurdity of battery powered trucks hit home.
Today. For some reason. A Tesla semi truck went off the hwy and crashed and burned. Of course. They didn't say why the crash. All they talked about is how long it burned and how toxic the smoke was. Whoops. Now, yesterday. Here. This was on I80. By Salt Lake City, Utah. Now with them being on I80 and here where I live is known semi truck wrecks. I am just over 1 mile from I80. I am very concerned. High winds and truckers falling asleep is the leading cause of the wrecks. It took many hours for it to stop burning. Meaning. The toxic smoke will travel for miles. Again. Who knows why it wrecked. It just did.
A truck fire can destroy a critical highway overpass and shutdown traffic for months. Fire threat is a reason many highways are elevated so high. Tunnels are also vulnerable to fire. If all vehicles are battery powered a chain reaction could destroy the entire highway.
It is utterly astonishing that so many well-qualified experts have completely lost the plot when it comes to EVs. What level of delusion required to believe that an Electric Semi is a good idea?
I live in Colfax California next to the interstate 80 where it closed for 16 hours. There were miles and miles of other semi trucks backed up. This is fire season in fire country and could have been a huge forest fire as well. Interstate 80 is the main East West interstate in the US imagine how much money was lost in this one incident.
@@OM617a No, the stats say fossils are more likely to catch fire by a factor of 20-60. The first number comes from Sweden and the second number from the US. Here the numbers for every 100k sales are 1529.9 burning fossils compared to 25.1 EVs.
I live in Kingman, Arizona and on Sunday my wife and I saw two EV tractor trailers charging at one of the local grocery stores here in town, the drivers had to unhook the trailers which took up a large area meant for cars and then backed their tractors into the charging station. I've also seen EV buses charging their although none of the buses in this area are EV's, they may have been one of the many tour buses that pass through.
I'm curious as to why a grocery store would have an EV charging station that has the power to charge a couple EV semis. If it just has a couple Tesla super chargers, those trucks would have to sit there for many hours to charge which isn't very convenient for the drivers or the trucking company.
The next "fun" area is the electrification of agriculture and it's going to be a nightmare. A small combine uses 200kW of power almost continuously and large ones around 500kW so this battery would last 4.5hours for a small combine and less than 2 hours for a large one. And then you need to find, say, a 1MW charger to charge it back up - not something you tend to find in the corner of every wheat field.
Yeah, I love that one. I used to do a bit of tractor work for a mate of mine. One of his machines was 45hp (C 33kwh) and the other was 100 hp.(c.75kwh). The "baby Fergy" (Massey Ferguson Red) would chew through a Tesla model 3 battery in 2 hours, if it were electric. The "Incredible Hulk" (Deutz) would eat the same battery in an hour. And they're "just" small tractors, for small acreages and small crops. There's no "re gen", on those. Open the tap and go as fast as the implement will allow. And good luck hiring an operator who's going to be prepared to spend 45 minutes every two hours waiting for the thing to recharge even if the paddock has a charging port. F&@k that. Get in, get the job done, and get out. Rinse and repeat.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I'm still using a 1963 MF35x and it's still doing a good day's work. It will do over 6 hours at maximum power on one tank of diesel. A couple of Jerry cans of diesel and you are ready to go again.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 And these EV tractors are in rural areas often prone to drought and fires. While a diesel can set off a fire with an exhaust spark, we have learned to manage that safely. Filling a farm with Lithium explosives does not seem smart for remote rural dry areas?
I-80 is a major interstate highway artery crossing the USA. Immigrant gap is about the worst place to have one of your EV Semi have a thermal runaway. It’s an uphill grade and the power that the motor needs to climb it most likely caused the problem. Great Video!
Diesel truck fires are treated in the same way. Firefighters let them burn themselves through and scrape away the carnage afterwards. But a diesel truck fire doesn't shut down a highway, at most- closes a lane.
I live about 20 miles from the accident. All trucks eastbound were scrambling to find somewhere to park near my off ramp since the freeway was closed. Fire trucks can't do too much up there as well, since fire hydrants are scarce and the trucks have a limited supply of water they carry. They had helicopters with fire suppressant in case the fire spread into the forest.
Didn't Pacific Gas and Electric get swamped with multiple lawsuits for the 1,500 or so fires,like the one in Paradise,caused by their decrepit infrastructure? Maybe the lawsuits will start being filed on EV Semi disasters. I drive tractor trailer for 40 years,out of the NYC metro area. EV Semis=Less payload,will take more time,and create higher prices for everything. Have yet to see a Tesla semi in my travels-NY,NJ,PA,CT,and DEL.
@@billysolhurok5542 Yes, PG&E got sued and they are making a lot of upgrades to underground power in the foothills. I don't know how far they have got or will do. That EV fire is very concerning.
I'm glad you specifically mention the environmental impact of these EV disasters, because *nothing* highlights the absurdity of these things better than that.
A few years ago, I was travelling too Chester, UK and I saw a big truck fire. The cab was on fire and so was the trailor. I actually got some footage on an old phone back then. It had only just happened as there was one police car that had stopped the on coming traffic. I was only going to pick something up and then was gonna head back. To my amazement the fire was put out about an hour later when I was travelling back, The Police had diverted some of the traffic onto the other carriage way. The fire engines were actually being packed up when I was going back. The truck was just a shell, but not even any smouldering. It was obviously diesel, not sure how the fire started.
So during the bushfire season how exactly are the volunteers in bush fire brigade going to contain these fires with the older equipment they are given. God help them they are work so hard to protect so many lives without introducing new fire hazards onto our roads burning at these higher temperatures.
a megawatt is 1'000'000 watts do like me use all the zeroes and remember they complained that your 0'000'0015 watts computer monitor was killing the planet
Keep in mind that at Diesel semi truck carries a very large amount of stored energy in its fuel. I live in a residential area near an Interstate highway. A semi truck crashed and burned. The Diesel fuel ignited and poured into a catch basin which dumped burning fuel onto a river half a mile away. The toxic material released required cleaning the crash area as well as the river. One side of the highway was closed for emergency resurfacing because the heat of the burning truck destroyed the concrete substrate and asphalt topping layer. I am not an environmental engineer, so I can’t answer these questions: As frightful as the Tesla truck fire was, how does it compare in the volume and toxicity of the material released to a Diesel fire? How does the cost of the environmental cleanup compare? How does the average number of miles driven per crash/fire compare?
Thanks great insights but don’t expect a balanced response from mguy anytime soon. His trade is dealing in hysteria and not facts. Anyone old enough to remember just a few of the environmental disasters we have experienced with oil knows how bad it really is.
@@paulsimpson8990 Thanks for the reply; yes, that’s about what I expected from this UA-cam presenter. I’m not a big fan of the Tesla semi, but the battery fire issue is being treated as a political rather than technical talking point. Even a modest bit of searching turns up many horrific Diesel powered truck fire incidents. It just happened that I live within a few miles of where one occurred. The salient thing to consider is what is the per mile rate at which fire incidents occur for each type of vehicle.
Having worked in oil and gas and being an engineer myself I think people just think petrol comes out of the nozzle and is made by fairies in the tank. They don’t see the massive machine behind oil extraction, transport, refining and distribution. Yet I can buy some solar panels, put them on the roof of my house and power my car with energy from the sun. Yes you need mining etc but it’s nothing compared to oil and gas.
I caught some of that action yesterday…I’m a truck driver myself going from Reno to Stockton to pick up my load and bring it to Carson City. Two trips over the Sierras on I-80. Had a detour in the morning that added another hour to my westbound trip. Then stuck in California all day until after 8pm. Finally delivered my load this morning…a day late
The latest thing is they want you to have wait for it...........home electric storage (Li-Ion of course) so you can store daytime energy production to use at night. Sounds like a great idea (except for lithium mining pollution end such...) but what about a thermal runaway in your HOME storage unit? 😱😱😱
Its honestly a good idea with a few personal TnC: -That battery pack is in a seperate building, atleast 50m away from my home. -Its elevated enough to avoid any potential issue due to flooding. -obviously protected from the elements. But the fact that i want the above conditions met, on top of enough solar to make the battery capacity worthwhile means i have to be one very filthy rich mofo.
Serious Heavy vehicle accidents happen daily , could you imagine just half the US fleet being powered by these huge batteries? Well, firstly it’s impossible bcse there just isn’t enough minerals in the ground to support just the US market let alone the world. Precious minerals like copper is already getting depleted and making other things way more expensive bcse of the high volume needed in EVs
I used to think nuclear powered trucks would be a good idea but I came to realize that people would not accept the hazard involved if one were to crash. However If we can accept the hazards involved with battery trucks we should be able to accept the hazards involved with small nuclear reactors in trucks.
Your no nonsense right to the point presentations are great. I'm amazed you don't have more subscribers. I've shared your videos on other platforms a few times, hope you gain a few!
I live in Reno, Nevada , west of the accident and the freeway was entirely closed for a while, then closed to all trucks for many, many hours while emergency services dealt with the toxic fire and fumes from this truck. Hundreds and hundreds of trucks heading eastbound on highway 80 were parked all along the freeway and anywhere else they could park. Probably millions of dollars in lost work, late deliveries and damage to perishables resulted. Normally when a diesel semi crashes in the area, it takes far less time to recover it and open the road. Not to mention that this area of California suffers numerous huge forest fires annually. One occurred near the California/Nevada state line just two weeks ago. that one was caused by a car fire. This area is now a tinder box. More of these incidents will happen in the future.
1:50 - lithium battery fires can’t be put out, all you can do is try to contain it until *IT* puts itself out. My best friend nearly died from a large LiPo pack several years ago.
July 26th, a big rig carrying EV batteries caught fire in Interstate 15 between LA and Las Vegas. It took 48 hours to fully reopen the highway. This was the middle of the Mojave desert and in some areas cars were backed up for 100 miles. There were reports of people taking over 12 hours to get through the detours instead of 4. I was on I-40 (one of the alternates) and it was a madhouse.
Electric Milk floats replaced horses for door to door deliveries in the UK during the 1950's. Long since stopped once supermarkets started selling milk.
You should check out why here in Kingston Ontario Canada they shut down a 200 acre battery factory that was being built? Seems to me that are keeping it quiet?
The elephant in the room is why did it go off the road. Remember these trucks have the self driving systems like the cars. From what we have seen with the cars is they don't always stay on the road with the self driving feature turned on.
In an interview, they said they had to call in ' air drops' to help stop the ' truck' from burning the forest down! What a total joke. And covering it all up by ' NOT SAYING' it was a Fire Truck.
Good catch-----this is crazy as in shuts down the roadway between Giga 1 in Sparks(a great place for a Battery / EV Manufacturer) NV to Freemont CA Tesla's Factory---
It's one of those things where non-engineers look at their electric golf cart and think "this thing works great!" it's clean, the country club does all the charging when I'm not here, it's super simple, does the same job as the old gas ones but quieter ... we should do this for everything!
I wonder whether the knuckleheads that came up with the idea calling the company Tesla had foreseen. The great genius electrical engineer, heavy weight of field theory Tesla would of objected saying "Not in my name"! What a joke!! Yet the thermal runaway continues to flow!!
I don't know if this has been covered by MGUY today's news has lithium batteries being disposed in general waste they get roughly handled into the truck causing fires then compacted causing fires and taken to the tip to be run overall dragged about by a backhoe causing fires burning nearby people, setting fire to a $200,000 reel truck or just setting file to a huge piles of junk this lot actually brings the problem to every house
Recent news from Pittsburgh, PA area: SOUTH UNION TOWNSHIP, Pa. - An electric car caught on fire after hitting a deer in Fayette County on Friday night. The crash happened on Route 119 at the Hopwood bypass in South Union Township just before 9:30 p.m., a 911 supervisor confirmed. No one inside the car was hurt.
You know the beginning of Blade Runner, where you see explosions going off throughout the city? I always assumed in the future it was gang wars and police battling. Nope, it's EVs cooking off.
You’re right! LOL.
You think the batteries exploded without reason???
Probably because it was not made clear in the video that the semi driver ran of the road into some trees causing the batteries to fail,
Driver dies after Tesla Cybertruck slams into culvert, bursts into flames in Baytown area, DPS says ua-cam.com/video/Dfx4JZiSeHI/v-deo.html
Tesla CT vs the US on annual car fire fatality
Tesla CT: number 1
US registered cars: 280 million; mean age: 10 years; annual fire fatality 600
Tesla CT fire fatality is 16 times higher than average vehicles.
@@AlbertZonneveld It was made perfectly clear the truck ran off the road into some trees.
You seem to be missing the point that lithium is an unstable element which explodes when it comes into contact with water, including the small amount contained in our planets atmosphere. ffs, cell phones and scooters have burned down buildings because of sudden thermal runaway and their batteries are tiny.
In case you still don't get it, the problem isn't the electric vehicle per se but the lithium battery it uses. Nobody cares about the inefficient truck on the road - we just laugh at the idiots who own them. No, we have a problem with the unstable toxic bomb that is waiting for a pothole to explode sitting right next to us at the red light.
@@pigpuke This time it was a crash that leed to an Thermal Runaway but what if an electrical event happend that destroy the Battery Managment System ( bms ) , you wil also get an Thermal Runaway .
Ever heard of the Carrington Event from 1859 , that was a Coranal Mass Ejection ( CME ) and it released an Geo Induced Current ( GIC ) , that current went thru the ground and thru the air and it fried the telecommunications and shocked the operators .
Something like that happend also in 1989 in Canada , it fried an hydro electric plant .
Something like that will happen with in a few decades , more sooner than later , think about all these boms that stand an riding everywhere .
Far too many people are strangers to reality these days. Sadly a lot of them are in government.
Especially in California. It's amazing that this Tesla semi was allowed on that highway with It's gradients, curves and it's sensitive watershed. Local ski resorts are under strick regulations regarding how much snow they can clear from their parking lots due to water quality runoff. So, by the time this single stupid experiment in EV freight hauling is over all those years of water quality efforts will be for not.
I've always suspected that one of the requirements to be an elected official is to have had a lobotomy. The politicians who push these projects rely on the fact that most voters are willingly ignorant--to lazy to do their own research.
No, they want to control you
Electric semi is an utter stupid idea
Not just the fire risk. The Tesla Semi's are much heavier and need waivers to carry the same load weights, causing more road wear and tear.
good argument, looks like you know a lot on the subject
The sheep will never hear this.
@@Dexter_SolidIt really is that simple. STUPID
@Two_BSW_Aeros makes zero engineering sense.
But hey, logic and common sense are not a communist strong point.
Why would it be so difficult to form governments of common sense people surrounded by the most intelligent in their sphere of expertise.
The reason is money and corruption
$ience!
Lazy voting from most people. They join one of the two big tribes and then vote the same way for life.
When senile old man is president, what you think about how smart lower position members are?
Have a look at America. They are so divided on political lines that reality doesn't even register to them.
@@davidvanderklauw David I think you are right my friend. Total apathy
The lack of counter argument on the MSM on EVs is down right evil
Fake media as is
There is no counter argument to adopting EV's. It's simply the smartest thing for humans to do.
@@id10t98so extremely hazardous fires are ok with you? Lithium is no longer the answer. Find another way!
@@id10t98 Great to hear from Oppositeland.
@@id10t98Lol. Smartest. Yea. A car that takes a bigger mining footprint. A car that is designed for people that have driveways. And ignores everyone else. Very egalitarian.
A car that takes 500% longer to refuel than its ICE equivalent. A car that sets the agenda where you must stop and eat on road trips and not the other way around. Isn’t the future.
Stop this Toxic EV cult insanity 😤
lol the only insane one is you
If you don't like MGUY's videos you don't have to watch them.
We’ve got a certified Tesla hater! Lmao
@@roger_is_red I see we have another ignorant ev fanboy....OOPS. Sorry Rober, forgot to ask whether you're a male or femalel Not that I care but you seem to be a bit stressed. Thought you might be pregnant.
@@SANDIEGOSH1Tif people started saying blabla hater.. you know you’re dealing with unsecure losers without any good arguments! 😒 the so-called useful idiots and their “green” eco-socialist utopian ideology.. so sad!
Electric trucks another example of net zero insanity 😮
Net zero hypocrisy.
What's happening as everybody knows is they're gradually rearranging the world economy to keep us in penury .
Cockroaches on mine!
They've wiped out my email!
The rascals!
prove to me taking hydrocarbons locked in the ground during the carboniferous periode and putting them in to the air will do nothing to the environment.
70% energy savings.
That is not insanity but a clear path to the future.
It sounds as though the media had no interest in reporting the fire. Where are the pictures amd videos? Where were the obvious questions about the cause of the accident? Was the driver OK? Did they have a medical emergency and crash? Were they drunk? Were they foolishly trying to avoid an animal in the road? Was the truck on autopilot? What was being done to deal with that toxic runoff water? How big was the cloud of toxic gas? Why did firefighters even waste the effort to hose down the truck when they should have merely used their water to keep the surrounding woods from burning? How many gallons of water were used? Did the firefighters have to wear oxygen masks the entire time to protect themselves from the toxic gases? Exactly how toxic are the gases? Was a 1/2 mile clearance sufficient to protect other drivers from the toxic gases? How large was the battery? Have any other Tesla Semis ever caught fire? How many Tesla semis are on the road? Are there any legal restrictions on where Tesla semis can operate? Do current Tesla semis have autopilot? Any restrictions on its use? Any trucks crash while on autopilot? Where are the batteries of the Tesla semi located? Where is a cutaway/see through rendering of the truck showing the size and location of the battery? Was the truck loaded? What was it hauling? What were the road conditions? Did the trailer burn up with the cab? Was the cargo lost? Is the cargo now contaminated from the toxic gases and water? Were any firefighters injured? How many trucks responded? Were there any hydrants nearby to replenish water or did firetrucks have to rotate in and out to go refill? Were the local fire departments even prepared to handle such a fire from training, number of personnel, and equipment perspectives?
So many questions that an inquisitive reporter would have asked. So where were such reporters?
Exactly! I believe that CA is so committed to the whole net zero idea that they have control of the news cycle. Case in point, back in May of this year, in Otay Mesa, east of San Diego, a fire erupted in a battery power storage facility. This complex is huge with a number of large buildings full of batteries. To the east, in the desert the state and their power company partners, have amassed a huge array of solar panels, massive acreage. To make the scheme work they need the battery warehouses to supply electricity when the sun isn't shinning. So, this fire burned on and off, as lithium batteries do, fire crews stationed there for a number of weeks simply keeping it contained as all the toxic gases and contaminated fire hose water drifted, and percolated into the surrounding environment. Here's the kicker, did you ever hear about it? My daughter-in-law lives 10-20 miles to the east of El Cajon and when I asked her if she knew about it she only had a vague recollection of a warehouse fire and something about batteries. It should have been a national news item.
@@markthomas207 I vaguely recall hearing about it, but I get EV and lithium battery fire videos in my UA-cam feed since I follow MGuy, StacheD, and John Cadogan.
It was reported with video on several Sacramento news stations and I'm seeing those videos in my feed because that's where I am, you'd probably have to search them out.
They are busy writing fake news about the Vice president
ENOUGH! STOP THIS MADNESS NOW!
Never until the cars burn all the trees down
@@ghunt9146 not until you submit....slav_e
LOL. "Old man yells at cloud."
@robbieburns3564 yes, a toxic cloud at that.
It's the insurance companies that will stop this. Once it's unaffordable to park an EV on our property, public parking garage, hotel, etc.
Outlaw the things. Everything about them is poisonous, from the kids that mine the chemicals to the final fire.
You should be careful about banning things. What's needed is to stop the government pressure to adopt an inappropriate tech. Then the market and rational heads will do the rest. If you ban things, you give fuel to the argument that you're just banning it because you don't want it.
or even just all those forever chemicals in the landfill.
I wonder how far backwards the green people have taken the environmental impact
I won't even buy an electric bicycle
Why not?
@@clroger4
Lots of farming nearby all that toxic smoke, not good.
You stated that EV Trucks using a 1-MW charger would take over one-hour to charge. There is an estimated 2.9 million semi-trucks registered in the United Stated. I retired as a nuclear reactor operator. My last shift, we were generating 1,270 MW when I left. That would charge only 1270 trucks per hour. If we could keep that up for 24-hrs, a total of 30,480 trucks could be charged in a single 24-hr day from one nuclear power plant. You would need 95 new nuclear power plants just to charge all the EV semi-trucks. Now add into that all box delivery trucks, the EV cars. The current and existing power plants are already supply business and homes.
So what do we do? We built AI data centers that required even more electricity for something that we don't need unlike supposedly EVs that are going to save the planet.
A wind turbine might produce 3 MW when the wind blows. That would mean you would need one wind turbine for every 72 trucks or 40,277 new wind turbines, If the wind blows 24-hrs a day at just the right speed.
If you want to save the planet outlaw AI data centers and Bitcoin mining operations unless that can run solely on wind and solar.
Just to reach net zero with wind turbines, you need to build 1000 3MW windturbines everyday for 30 years. Quite a lot, aren't they?
Absolutely - 💯 % correct
The most irresponsible power source in
human history, on so many levels, one
glaring one is that we'd need + - 500
in the US near pop areas, what is one of
the first 'key' targets in W- xxx- A- (R) ?
@@MikeInc79 The new gen Wind-Mills will be Solar Powered.
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I see the Data building you talk about have massive HVAC unit I assume required a massive amount of energy. Even if we could go fully EV the amount of heat energy people will use thinking energy is free will cook the planet. Energy can't be created nor destroyed. Everything is borrowed so we have to save for the next.
Absolutely, these things are bombs.
It's unbelievable how our governments are continue to waste our tax money on this crap.
Stop calling them "our government". They are regimes that rule without asking anyone for their opinion. Regimes that are made up of corrupt liars and that don't care about the people.
Total money grab by leftists.
It's unbelievable how the public are completely ignorant of the level of automation coming in the next few decades.
These trucks will drive themselves, be unloaded by robotics, loaded by robotics, from factories run entirely by robotics .... we are already 70% of the szy there.
Wake up.
no government wasteful spending is a normal
This automatic dictatorship of the nice uncles and aunts is the real problem, I think.
Sorry cannot make it to your house fire
Because
We have our own fire to contain 😂
Glad the fire chief is telling it like it is.
The irony here, is that in some places in the US, little battery bicycles are banned from certain nature reserves and trails. The reason?.......Their batteries may spontaneously ignite and cause a wildfire......Remember, if it wasn't for double standards, the Authorities would have none at all...
I won't have anything with these time bombs in them.
Where can you safely charge them? 100 yards from the house in a concrete bunker?
That's not the reason. you just made that up
Ha nice one, very under-used qoute about the double standard world we live unfortunately live in.
@@jpm000001 These aren’t typical fires, said New York City Fire Commissioner Laura Kavanagh. The batteries don’t smolder; they explode.
Earlier this month, New York Fire Commissioner Laura Kavanagh announced that lithium-ion batteries have recently become a leading cause of fires and fire deaths in New York City and that the problem is growing nationwide.
No they didn't You just made that up
Ah yes a several ton ticking time bomb
Those external combustion battery vehicles are saving the planet. From what?
Exactly. Whole thing is based on a false premise. Insanity.
From us
When They burn, it is 200 times worse than any car exhaust, the Toxins are Fatal.
Apparently the CO2 from vehicles, an ESSENTIAL gas for plants, is considered a ‘climate crisis’ by the misleading millions, even though it is at its lowest level ever, only a tenth of what it was when dinosaurs were around. And guess what, there were no deserts then. It was verdant everywhere. And no ice caps. Of course they’re melting, we are still at the end of an ice age! They should be melting!
Lithium poisoning is Long term , not good for our children or our country
Nobody saw this coming lol.
Well, President Trump has exposed the truth about e.v. trucks at several rallies for months. He was right again.
If electric semi come to Australia they should be baned on all tunnels
And during the bushfire seasons
Yeas, remember the Mont Blanc Tunnel fire, 30plus dead. Imagine if that had been an electric truck in thermal runaway. I suspect more would have died.
Already here did you forget the cement truck that went up and there was 2 others although i think they were in the yards of the guys making them
Those batteries they use should b banned all over the world. They should not exist.
@@frankoconnor806
Bad enough having DPF burn from a rural fire truck causing another fire the truck was trying to extinguish 😮
Guess who's not using ev's? The people promoting them. Its just a dumb idea and people keep falling for it
Unfortunately, with politicians and their virtue signaling, there's little chance of stopping the insanity. I think we're going to have to rely on the insurance industry to get this thing under control. If you can't insure it, or the premiums are so prohibitive that it doesn't make sense, we have a sliver of a chance.
Yes, but the insurance companies will ‘share’ the cost via premiums for ICE cars. As long as the industry sticks together, nothing will change from an EV perspective. If & when one company throws down and refuses to insure, or chooses to charge appropriate premiums for, EVs, then the others will follow suit…maybe.
I think that government in this country is so big and all powerful, that I don't think they will let an insurance company get in the way of their plans. So, they will simply co-opt them. They have already done so with medical insurance, United Healthcare, Humana all the big companies make billions through part C Medicare plans. They will give them a choice, play our game, we give you subsidies to offset your costs, or we bring the power of IRS audits and make your continuing existence questionable. I am sure the major automobile manufacturers were not all eager to start making EVs, but the federal government offered billions in loans so that they could, and would! They all appear to be selling their EVs at a considerable loss, it's like the government completely controls them Soviet Union style.
According to data from global automotive intelligence firm S&P Global Mobility, cited by UA-cam channel EV Buyers Guide, approximately 70 per cent of Tesla owners who buy a new car opt for another Tesla model.
@@JoeOvercoat That is a very good point. The insurance industry mandate is to charge as much and protect as little.
Oh sheet, I hadn't even thought about the run off in the event of an EV fire. In the small country town where I live the council have recently installed a double charging station out 50M UPHILL from a creek, which feeds into, eventually, the bay. SHEET! I am going to ask the CFA and council what their contingency plans are in the event of an EV fire at the site.
The run-off was my biggest concern as well. We think microplastics in the water is bad, just wait until this "battery water" backfires like a nuclear radiation crisis from a science fiction horror story. I think it should be mandatory that every city has a plan set up for this run-off. Fine someone responsible millions for each cleanup, but money can never undo this type of damage. Of course, the plan should be to not let these EV's on the road to catch fire the first place, so as to then pollute to the extreme while we wait for it to burn for hours shutting everything down nearby, every time on of those fragile, complicated batteries has a bad day.
Thank you.
My local gas station has 8 super Chargers 50 feet from the gas pumps😂 wtf
@@clroger4😅 Insane.
Before the EVangelists start their usual mud slinging and scream that batteries are great and that at least 293 petrol and diesel tankers have burst into flames every week since the year 1588, I'll say (again) that petrol and diesel fuel is designed to burn. That's its job. A battery is not meant to burn. Ever.
We're told constantly that EVs are completely safe, better than ICE vehicles in every way, and are also kind to animals and donate their spare clothes and food to charity. Cobblers. Propaganda. An EV fire represents a catastrophic failure of the battery management and protection systems. It's something that should never, ever happen - like both engines falling off a jet airliner - and when it does, it deserves to be headline news.
There are lots of materials in the walls of your house that'll produce toxic gas if on fire. And people haven't stopped buying houses nonetheless.
Just for balance, look for tanker fire I-95 in May this year.
Road damaged, bridge has to be demolished and rebuilt. Main highway closed for days.
Masses of toxic fumes given off.
ICE, safe as houses...not!😅
@@maxnits9556 I will make sure not to drive my house on the highway and crash it into some trees, thanks for the heads up.
@@mikester1290 I'm just saying... It's how the world works. Every year 40.000 Americans die in a car crash - nobody stopped driving because of that.
@@maxnits9556 DUMB arse
Keep up the pressure on Govt's. and pollies MGUY. These things should NOT be allowed to be manufactured!!! 900Kilowatt hours!!! MAN, how much potential energy is stored in that battery!!! No wonder it burned for hours. Human lives and society at large (including the environment) should NOT be used as test beds for this emerging technology!!
I think it's still burning.
Now imagine that happening in bad weather like thick fog on a motorway/highway you get a multiple pile up accident and one of these EV lorries or EV cars are included - your trapped in your car you think the emergency services will be able to come get you out, NO YOU'RE GOING TO BURN ONCE THESE LITHIUM BATTERIES GOES INTO THERMAL RUNAWAY THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR IT . Petrol or Diesel vehicles can be put out in minutes ANY EV vehicle can not.
Population reduction. Rather brutally.
Electric semi , is that something a TESLA driver has while boring everyone in pub about his car ?
An electric semi isn't going to make many gush.
No, Tesla owners have no equipment to get even semi erect.
lmao - that’s funnier than you think it is. That was a true lol - well done.
They never talk about suffering ED. (Electric Disfunction)
@@tedecker3792 haha I call them TESLA Tossers , with a collective noun of a Masturbation of .
Just found the report and witnessed once again the devastation these EV's are causing. Its only a matter of time before they become impossible to insure and this ridiculous battery experiment comes to an end.
Imagine the future with 300 EVs in a parking garage and then imagine the total destruction of the buildings above and around it.
Imagine one of these electric trucks getting hit by an train, something that happens to regular trucks all the time.
Love your content. Keep up the hard work.
I live in California and I never heard a word about this. Sad I have to hear. This is from someone. in Australia.
They had to close off a mile stretch due to toxic fumes, that was in a rural area. What happens in a dense downtown core or a small town?
How did it get off the road in first place? I thought it had all those driver assist gizmos to stop that from happening.
To put this in perspective when I worked in the utility industry typical generation units produced about 500 Megawatts. The largest nucllear units were 1200 MW. When you mentioned a 900 KW charger, close to 1 MW, the absurdity of battery powered trucks hit home.
Today. For some reason. A Tesla semi truck went off the hwy and crashed and burned. Of course. They didn't say why the crash. All they talked about is how long it burned and how toxic the smoke was. Whoops. Now, yesterday. Here. This was on I80. By Salt Lake City, Utah. Now with them being on I80 and here where I live is known semi truck wrecks. I am just over 1 mile from I80. I am very concerned. High winds and truckers falling asleep is the leading cause of the wrecks. It took many hours for it to stop burning. Meaning. The toxic smoke will travel for miles. Again. Who knows why it wrecked. It just did.
East of Sacramento
A truck fire can destroy a critical highway overpass and shutdown traffic for months. Fire threat is a reason many highways are elevated so high. Tunnels are also vulnerable to fire.
If all vehicles are battery powered a chain reaction could destroy the entire highway.
It's time to ban lithium batteries.
It's becoming readily apparent that lithium is not the answer.
No shit
Thanks for this quick update.
It is utterly astonishing that so many well-qualified experts have completely lost the plot when it comes to EVs. What level of delusion required to believe that an Electric Semi is a good idea?
You can now see how easily the see eye A has been manipulating reg_ime change all over the globe.
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I live in Colfax California next to the interstate 80 where it closed for 16 hours. There were miles and miles of other semi trucks backed up. This is fire season in fire country and could have been a huge forest fire as well. Interstate 80 is the main East West interstate in the US imagine how much money was lost in this one incident.
Those EV's do burn a lot.
No they don't, less by a factor of 20-60.
@@gerbre1 Mr/Ms(?) EV Cult member, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE park your EV in YOUR garage.. Just asking for a friend 🔥🚒
@@gerbre1 20-60 is the IQ range you have to be in to believe your nonsense.
@@rrnonya5472 At the moment it is charged in the carport with mostly solar power from the roof.
@@OM617a No, the stats say fossils are more likely to catch fire by a factor of 20-60. The first number comes from Sweden and the second number from the US. Here the numbers for every 100k sales are 1529.9 burning fossils compared to 25.1 EVs.
I live in Kingman, Arizona and on Sunday my wife and I saw two EV tractor trailers charging at one of the local grocery stores here in town, the drivers had to unhook the trailers which took up a large area meant for cars and then backed their tractors into the charging station. I've also seen EV buses charging their although none of the buses in this area are EV's, they may have been one of the many tour buses that pass through.
I'm struggling to understand what you said.
I'm curious as to why a grocery store would have an EV charging station that has the power to charge a couple EV semis. If it just has a couple Tesla super chargers, those trucks would have to sit there for many hours to charge which isn't very convenient for the drivers or the trucking company.
FJB paid these stores to put them in.
We got 8 charging stations 50 feet from gas pumps here.
The next "fun" area is the electrification of agriculture and it's going to be a nightmare. A small combine uses 200kW of power almost continuously and large ones around 500kW so this battery would last 4.5hours for a small combine and less than 2 hours for a large one. And then you need to find, say, a 1MW charger to charge it back up - not something you tend to find in the corner of every wheat field.
And if you run around the clock 24 hours a day then what?
@@FailedExpert6330 Exactly. I have had people suggest "just" swapping batteries as if this would be trivial.
Yeah, I love that one. I used to do a bit of tractor work for a mate of mine. One of his machines was 45hp (C 33kwh) and the other was 100 hp.(c.75kwh). The "baby Fergy" (Massey Ferguson Red) would chew through a Tesla model 3 battery in 2 hours, if it were electric. The "Incredible Hulk" (Deutz) would eat the same battery in an hour.
And they're "just" small tractors, for small acreages and small crops. There's no "re gen", on those. Open the tap and go as fast as the implement will allow.
And good luck hiring an operator who's going to be prepared to spend 45 minutes every two hours waiting for the thing to recharge even if the paddock has a charging port.
F&@k that. Get in, get the job done, and get out. Rinse and repeat.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 I'm still using a 1963 MF35x and it's still doing a good day's work. It will do over 6 hours at maximum power on one tank of diesel. A couple of Jerry cans of diesel and you are ready to go again.
@@davidbrayshaw3529 And these EV tractors are in rural areas often prone to drought and fires. While a diesel can set off a fire with an exhaust spark, we have learned to manage that safely. Filling a farm with Lithium explosives does not seem smart for remote rural dry areas?
I-80 is a major interstate highway artery crossing the USA. Immigrant gap is about the worst place to have one of your EV Semi have a thermal runaway. It’s an uphill grade and the power that the motor needs to climb it most likely caused the problem. Great Video!
Diesel truck fires are treated in the same way. Firefighters let them burn themselves through and scrape away the carnage afterwards. But a diesel truck fire doesn't shut down a highway, at most- closes a lane.
I live about 20 miles from the accident. All trucks eastbound were scrambling to find somewhere to park near my off ramp since the freeway was closed. Fire trucks can't do too much up there as well, since fire hydrants are scarce and the trucks have a limited supply of water they carry. They had helicopters with fire suppressant in case the fire spread into the forest.
Didn't Pacific Gas and Electric get swamped with multiple lawsuits for the
1,500 or so fires,like the one in Paradise,caused by their decrepit infrastructure?
Maybe the lawsuits will start being filed on EV Semi disasters.
I drive tractor trailer for 40 years,out of the NYC metro area.
EV Semis=Less payload,will take more time,and create higher prices for everything.
Have yet to see a Tesla semi in my travels-NY,NJ,PA,CT,and DEL.
@@billysolhurok5542 Yes, PG&E got sued and they are making a lot of upgrades to underground power in the foothills. I don't know how far they have got or will do. That EV fire is very concerning.
Why did it crash in the first place? Self drive decide the tree was a good place to go.
Yes because its green 😅
Tesla quality. Probably trialing drive-by-wire as its so successful in cyberwrecks. Either that or a wheel simply fell off 🙂
I'm glad you specifically mention the environmental impact of these EV disasters, because *nothing* highlights the absurdity of these things better than that.
Send the bill to Musk.
They even had fire-retardant airdrops from airplanes to extinguish that fire. Can you imagine the disaster in a major city?
Fire-retardant airdrops! Isn't that what we used to call 'rain' ? LOL
A few years ago, I was travelling too Chester, UK and I saw a big truck fire. The cab was on fire and so was the trailor. I actually got some footage on an old phone back then. It had only just happened as there was one police car that had stopped the on coming traffic. I was only going to pick something up and then was gonna head back. To my amazement the fire was put out about an hour later when I was travelling back, The Police had diverted some of the traffic onto the other carriage way. The fire engines were actually being packed up when I was going back. The truck was just a shell, but not even any smouldering. It was obviously diesel, not sure how the fire started.
So during the bushfire season how exactly are the volunteers in bush fire brigade going to contain these fires with the older equipment they are given. God help them they are work so hard to protect so many lives without introducing new fire hazards onto our roads burning at these higher temperatures.
a megawatt is 1'000'000 watts do like me use all the zeroes and remember they complained that your 0'000'0015 watts computer monitor was killing the planet
We know how metric prefixes work.
Don't knock it, it's the lean green clean future we have all been promised.
THEY LIED !
@@scottcarr3264 Surely not!
Fun fact, California has banned all combustion engines by 2035, they also have arguably the most unreliable power grid in the nation 😅
Remember the electric cement truck that caught fire here in Australia a while ago?
Of course you don’t. That got hidden quickly didn’t it.
Keep in mind that at Diesel semi truck carries a very large amount of stored energy in its fuel. I live in a residential area near an Interstate highway. A semi truck crashed and burned. The Diesel fuel ignited and poured into a catch basin which dumped burning fuel onto a river half a mile away. The toxic material released required cleaning the crash area as well as the river. One side of the highway was closed for emergency resurfacing because the heat of the burning truck destroyed the concrete substrate and asphalt topping layer.
I am not an environmental engineer, so I can’t answer these questions: As frightful as the Tesla truck fire was, how does it compare in the volume and toxicity of the material released to a Diesel fire? How does the cost of the environmental cleanup compare? How does the average number of miles driven per crash/fire compare?
Thanks great insights but don’t expect a balanced response from mguy anytime soon. His trade is dealing in hysteria and not facts. Anyone old enough to remember just a few of the environmental disasters we have experienced with oil knows how bad it really is.
@@paulsimpson8990 Thanks for the reply; yes, that’s about what I expected from this UA-cam presenter. I’m not a big fan of the Tesla semi, but the battery fire issue is being treated as a political rather than technical talking point. Even a modest bit of searching turns up many horrific Diesel powered truck fire incidents. It just happened that I live within a few miles of where one occurred. The salient thing to consider is what is the per mile rate at which fire incidents occur for each type of vehicle.
Having worked in oil and gas and being an engineer myself I think people just think petrol comes out of the nozzle and is made by fairies in the tank. They don’t see the massive machine behind oil extraction, transport, refining and distribution. Yet I can buy some solar panels, put them on the roof of my house and power my car with energy from the sun. Yes you need mining etc but it’s nothing compared to oil and gas.
I caught some of that action yesterday…I’m a truck driver myself going from Reno to Stockton to pick up my load and bring it to Carson City. Two trips over the Sierras on I-80. Had a detour in the morning that added another hour to my westbound trip. Then stuck in California all day until after 8pm. Finally delivered my load this morning…a day late
The latest thing is they want you to have wait for it...........home electric storage (Li-Ion of course) so you can store daytime energy production to use at night.
Sounds like a great idea (except for lithium mining pollution end such...) but what about a thermal runaway in your HOME storage unit? 😱😱😱
Its honestly a good idea with a few personal TnC:
-That battery pack is in a seperate building, atleast 50m away from my home.
-Its elevated enough to avoid any potential issue due to flooding.
-obviously protected from the elements.
But the fact that i want the above conditions met, on top of enough solar to make the battery capacity worthwhile means i have to be one very filthy rich mofo.
Who pays for the damages?
Or the emergency services and environmental cleanup costs?
Who insures these incendiary vehicles?
People should start suing the EV manufacturer’s when they are suffering from this toxic smoke😡
California huh.
First time I heard of using Fire Retardant Bombers to put out a vehicle fire.
Serious Heavy vehicle accidents happen daily , could you imagine just half the US fleet being powered by these huge batteries? Well, firstly it’s impossible bcse there just isn’t enough minerals in the ground to support just the US market let alone the world. Precious minerals like copper is already getting depleted and making other things way more expensive bcse of the high volume needed in EVs
🙏 Thanks for the link to the video from the local TV channel. 🙂
At least we’re saving the planet.
Hold up, wait a minute! Something ain’t right!
I used to think nuclear powered trucks would be a good idea but I came to realize that people would not accept the hazard involved if one were to crash. However If we can accept the hazards involved with battery trucks we should be able to accept the hazards involved with small nuclear reactors in trucks.
Your no nonsense right to the point presentations are great. I'm amazed you don't have more subscribers. I've shared your videos on other platforms a few times, hope you gain a few!
The use if water on EV fires should be illegal, carry huge fines.
I bet this is going to help insurance rates for EV’s in California.
Actually insurance costs may be the Achilles heel of EV’s. 💰💰💰
LA got a new electric fire truck too....its already broken down twice
I live in Reno, Nevada , west of the accident and the freeway was entirely closed for a while, then closed to all trucks for many, many hours while emergency services dealt with the toxic fire and fumes from this truck. Hundreds and hundreds of trucks heading eastbound on highway 80 were parked all along the freeway and anywhere else they could park. Probably millions of dollars in lost work, late deliveries and damage to perishables resulted. Normally when a diesel semi crashes in the area, it takes far less time to recover it and open the road. Not to mention that this area of California suffers numerous huge forest fires annually. One occurred near the California/Nevada state line just two weeks ago. that one was caused by a car fire. This area is now a tinder box. More of these incidents will happen in the future.
What caused it to drive off of the road…? FSD ..?
1:50 - lithium battery fires can’t be put out, all you can do is try to contain it until *IT* puts itself out. My best friend nearly died from a large LiPo pack several years ago.
MGUY thanks for all the breaking news on these nightmare evs. Rock on my brother from phoenix, az.
July 26th, a big rig carrying EV batteries caught fire in Interstate 15 between LA and Las Vegas. It took 48 hours to fully reopen the highway. This was the middle of the Mojave desert and in some areas cars were backed up for 100 miles. There were reports of people taking over 12 hours to get through the detours instead of 4. I was on I-40 (one of the alternates) and it was a madhouse.
RMW Cronulla Sharks for the win! Excellent video
If they can perfect a safer battery, then they might have a niche for local delivery jobs.
Electric Milk floats replaced horses for door to door deliveries in the UK during the 1950's. Long since stopped once supermarkets started selling milk.
What a way to save the planet
WOW! And many people think Electric cars and truck are such a good idea!
Why are we allowing mobile flamethrowers to roam freely on the highways? Once burning, these fires cannot be extinguished.
Because Hank Scorpio has very powerful lobbyists.
Hilarious - the ad that UA-cam had at the beginning of this post was for an electric car!
You should check out why here in Kingston Ontario Canada they shut down a 200 acre battery factory that was being built? Seems to me that are keeping it quiet?
The elephant in the room is why did it go off the road. Remember these trucks have the self driving systems like the cars. From what we have seen with the cars is they don't always stay on the road with the self driving feature turned on.
Please send this to Senator Robert’s
In an interview, they said they had to call in ' air drops' to help stop the ' truck' from burning the forest down!
What a total joke. And covering it all up by ' NOT SAYING' it was a Fire Truck.
There can't be many of these tesla semi trucks running about, even 1 going into flames is a large percentage considering
So Tesla are going to take the vehicle and investigate are they? Well, that to be fair and thorough won’t it. Drivers fault See if I’m wrong
Good catch-----this is crazy as in shuts down the roadway between Giga 1 in Sparks(a great place for a Battery / EV Manufacturer) NV to Freemont CA Tesla's Factory---
It's one of those things where non-engineers look at their electric golf cart and think "this thing works great!" it's clean, the country club does all the charging when I'm not here, it's super simple, does the same job as the old gas ones but quieter ... we should do this for everything!
I wonder whether the knuckleheads that came up with the idea calling the company Tesla had foreseen. The great genius electrical engineer, heavy weight of field theory Tesla would of objected saying "Not in my name"! What a joke!! Yet the thermal runaway continues to flow!!
No one saw it coming.
I don't know if this has been covered by MGUY today's news has lithium batteries being disposed in general waste they get roughly handled into the truck causing fires then compacted causing fires and taken to the tip to be run overall dragged about by a backhoe causing fires burning nearby people, setting fire to a $200,000 reel truck or just setting file to a huge piles of junk this lot actually brings the problem to every house
Don't try to make sense of it.
It's only ever about the money is as much sense you can hope for.
Recent news from Pittsburgh, PA area: SOUTH UNION TOWNSHIP, Pa. - An electric car caught on fire after hitting a deer in Fayette County on Friday night.
The crash happened on Route 119 at the Hopwood bypass in South Union Township just before 9:30 p.m., a 911 supervisor confirmed.
No one inside the car was hurt.