Chinese EV fire EPIDEMIC - MGUY EV News 15 September 2024 | MGUY Australia
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I can just imagine the chargers all being remotely disabled during times of civil unrest so protesters aren't able to travel.
The will just remotely switch the cars off .
I imagine cold home in cold weather when I cannot buy diesel oil for stove because there are no gas stations, Electicity purchase limited only for LED lighting and gas grid closed due to concerns about environment .
@@Mikexception- there will come a time when the grid electricity will be rationed, or else time limited. The wealthy will have solar panels and home batteries, and maybe discreet log or solid fuel burners, using approved fuels. There maybe situations where those with plugged in EVs and home batteries have to support the grid when the wind isn’t blowing. Either way, dependence on wind and solar is a sure route to high grid electricity prices, and ultimately grid rationing.
First rule of despots disarm the people then control movement.....
@@Mikexception This should make you worry a little less. Copper, There isn't enough of it to build this electronic distopic world. In fact we need 700 years of mining in 30 years to make the full transition. There isn't 700 years worth of copper to be mined. The big data centres alone are going to break the grid. I think the wind is blowing on the side of this house of cards, collaps is coming to this wet dream. I predict we will be running on fossil fuels for quite along time to come. J.M.H.O.
I'm so glad we're saving the environment!
And keeping a certain Swedish girl happy.
@@organickevinlondon its all funded by the same banks that have funded everything and all wars forever
@@organickevinlondon Let buy Texas oil then !
We have tons of oil here at home but right now are current administration is doing everything possible to sink the United States. @@organickevinlondon
@@organickevinlondon Trump was actually the worst for the oil business keeping prices low with companies filing bankruptcy by the hundreds. Trump isn't in the oil business but do you want to know who is? The people at the Biden Department of Energy are Deeply invested in oil.
Two days ago in southern California I saw a collision with two Teslas and one was on fire with a person dead inside it! All the fire department could do is keep spraying water on it, but couldn't get near it to get the person out! I think burning to death is the worst way to die. Of course there was absolutely nothing on the local news about it. 😢
You are right about the news coverage, I am in southern California and didn't hear about it. I have certainly noticed that the battery storage station fires in San Diego County have been buried from most of the public. The fire in May on the Otay Mesa should have been a national news story, that facility is a keystone to CA's solar power fantasy. Then there was another battery storage fire in Escondido the first week of this month.
Yep, I heard about it, only on the conservative channels. Libtards won't cover it if it was in their own parking lots.
A car cremation! 😳😲😬😢
ah. san jose CA a few months ago, a section of the light rail system was down for a few hours because there was an EV fire which was on or near the tracks. we saw a dozen police, fire truck etc vehicles. I kept an eye on the local news for a week, and *nothing* was mentioned. the police looked upset when we took a photograph of the fire trucks.
_Of course there was absolutely nothing on the local news about it._
BOOM! (and I say that as a fellow So. Cal. resident)
EV's are disposable tech not cars. As Jeremy Clarkson says he doesn't want to continue reviewing new cars as they are dull boring appliances.
with that frame of reference you are missing out on so much. Referencing JC is perhaps an indicator that you need to re-educate
My sentiments entirely
@@jonfrench7133Clarkson is talking sense. EVs are ugly, boring and dangerous.
@@2amSpeedMerchant looks like you have the same attitude to education
@@jonfrench7133 No your frame of reference is wrong. EV's are tech items not transportation devices. So many cars filled with tech that you will have to rent on a monthly basis. ICE's are bought and paid for. Go eat some vegan cheese Frenchie.
Never leave a child in a charging EV.
Natural selection
Even if it's not charging, don't leave your child in an EV. Better yet, don't even buy one.
That isnt just an EV issue. The idea of remote entry, using electric solenoids, without any physical key to unlock the door is common on all these new piece of shit cars and you have to go through hoops to find the emergency release they hide away somewhere instead of, you know, having a tumbler lock. Apparently 'customers want it' or so the liars saving a buck on each car they don't put them on claim.
@@ArshAZ83The emergency release is just a regular door handle. It's usually on the side of the seat.
With all the Doors Closed !
"Red sky at night, EV alight"
“Red sky in the morning, the EV is still bur…bourning?” 🔥🤪🤭
Rivian....😂😂😂😂😂
Sounds Normal to me..@@jeffsmith8197
Loved the bass on that.@@andrewd7586
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We seem to have forgotten about the ship fires
speak for yourself i haven't forgotten anything about how dangerous these EVS are but I work in an industry that uses LI batteries but at least we don't drive them down the road like idiots.
@@psilocybemusashi he's speaking for the masses. Those geniuses forget things fast
@@arcrides6841 the masses were never aware of anything anyway. They are more concerned about their local sportsball team than they are the world going to hell or their new car spying on them to advertise consumer filth to their microbrains.
@@arcrides6841 Sadly, so true.
Not forgotten, just not in the news cycle right now
No Big Brother electronic monitoring of any sort in my 11-year-old ICE vehicle. I'm looking forward to my next 11 years of freedom with this same vehicle.
My province has decided we will no longer have petroleum for home heat or vehicles, hopefully the still in denial wake up soon or my 9 yo with no surveillance will have a tough time getting fuel perhaps.
Just dont buy them repair your old cars it it much better for the enviornment
I agree but in the places like the EU and the UK they are beginning to ban mechanics from working on cars past a certain age. Now there is a push for extra taxation on old cars and eventually banning them completely from the road. They just do it incrementally over time. They are also implementing mandatory speed limiters and in car speed warning systems and if you exceed the speed limit purposely you get automatically reported by your own vehicle and get a fine and you can even have your license suspended or revoked with only a handful of violations.
not buying them will not protect you from the fires of those who do
@@Michael-1337 EU voters are mad. Why would you want those things?
@@davidvanderklauw The voting system is corrupt.
@@davidvanderklauw nobody wants those things. Their voters might be mad but they don't change their voting habits. They just keep asking for more.
They've obviously been messing with MGUY's subscriber numbers and views again, a sure sign that he's doing the right thing, hope we can keep him on here👍
@@steve_is_my_name explain yourself Steve what’s some mis - information set the record straight I’m all for factual data
@@steve_is_my_name I have learned a thing about people claiming other have mis or disinformation, that it is themself who are the biggest liars.
@@malcolmwhite6588 For MGUY, i would say 95% of his videos are replaying information from unreliable sources. Take EV fires for example... take a look at the office of national statistics. EV cars burn at a rate of 25 EVs per 100,000 sold, compared to 1,537 ICE aged car fires per 100,000 sold. When EV cars burn, less than 1% result in thermal runaway (battery fire). So, if you are worried about car fires, then EVs are the better choice.
@@steve_is_my_name thanks for the reply Steve. Okay first of all I don’t know where he gets his information from. Secondly there is also a lot of equally biased electric vehicle information so you have to be careful from that side as well. The numbers that you have produced seem pretty much on the money, the problem of courses that the toxicity of an electric fire and the much greater heat of the fire and because of the internal oxygen that difficult to extinguish it make the event much more severe despite the relative rarity- ironically the one of the top causes of a combustion vehicle fire is actually an electric system fault. Arson also features high on that list which of course could happen to any vehicle, in terms of the percentage of electric fires actually being thermal runaway I was not able to confirm that myself if you have a data source I’d be really happy to read that
@@steve_is_my_name Can you explain that stat? Does it mean:
1) 1.5% of all ICE cars ever sold are catching fire? Or
2) In any given year, there are 1537 ICE car fires in the total fleet per 100,000 sold in _that_ year?
What a way to pollute the water!
Yep that will be in the drains , possibly even getting in to the water tables in the soils , bad news for everyone .
@@mikldude9376 o well, no one will do anything about it
Poor fish.
and the air?! These gasses are much more potent and toxic to humans than an ICE burning diesel or oil.
Its ok because we're saving the planet right?
And now compare the pollution put out by that number of burning EVs to the comparably minor pollution put out by properly maintained ICE vehicles.
EVs fires are much lower and lesser than ICE cars. Don't get conned by a lowly Brit whose country can't even make a decent car now.
The entire concept of pollution is a facade. It was made up just to introduce newer mechanisms of population control.
@@steve_is_my_name "By nature, lithium-ion batteries are unstable and flammable. Inside each is a system of elements that must function harmoniously to prevent the battery from going into thermal runaway or short-circuiting. Even with perfect manufacturing and well-made components, some hazards are simply unavoidable."
@@steve_is_my_name btw you are full of misinformation. You should try to educate yourself instead of spreading lies.
@@AndrewTSq For example?
The speed by which those electric fires expand is terrifying. People don't have time to react.
China won't have 300 million EVs. Good luck charging them.
That is the best joke of 'em all. But politicians can't be bothered with calculations. They just decide to do the impossibe.
They're exploding faster than they can build them.
They aren't building all those coal fired power stations for fridges. It's for clean cars.....
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They also build solar and wind farms, hydro dams and nuclear power plants. More than the rest of the world combined. It's a matter of time before their renewable energy sources surpass coal. Their carbon neutral emission target is 2060. When the rest of the world rely on them to make almost everything for us , what do you expect? Stop using coal fired plants and switch completely to renewables? Not gonna happen.
To even approach 'realistic" we'd have to double our electric grid infrastructure, probably quadrupling copper, aluminum and other metal mining just to maintain our current systems levels, not even expanding them for population growth.
Pride always comes before a fall. The promoters of EVs are too proud to admit they are pushing a product that is not safe enough to sell at present.
The love of money is costing the world dearly.
Absolutely amen.
We have evs on our roads for 2 years now. They are everywhere. Despite all this hysteria, I have yet to see an ev fire. Unlike gasoline cars.
In my 64 years I have never seen a internal combustion vehicle go on fire even when I was a racing car driver @@kamsunleong6648
@kamsunleong6648 So if a tree falls in the forest and nobody seeS it, I guess it did not happen. Your one of those special Greenies that won't learn till it's your house burns down. Then claim it on your insurance and do it all over again expecting a different result. CRAZY
'The love of money is costing the world dearly.'
I know pathological greed has always been an albatross around humanities neck but it seems like these days are the worst they've ever been in my 20 years of adult life, the pathological greed has seemed into the ranks of normies and no longer restrained to just dark triad CEOs, politicians and bankers.
The battery cells are really time bombs.
From a battery producer who is trying to make fire proof batteries "By nature, lithium-ion batteries are unstable and flammable. Inside each is a system of elements that must function harmoniously to prevent the battery from going into thermal runaway or short-circuiting. Even with perfect manufacturing and well-made components, some hazards are simply unavoidable."
You are wise. And alot of them per battery pack. It’s bad.
So are petrol tanks.
Inherently unstable.
@@kamsunleong6648 So tell me, how can a fuel tank of gasoline spontaneously combust? The process of igniting gasoline, requires an ignition source, which is not inherent to the gasoline itself. Contrary to Gasoline storage, BEV Li Batteries inherently contain their own ignition source, which causes them to enter what is known as an STIE, or Sudden Thermal Inferno Event.
You are aware that electric fuel pumps are immersed and operating within all current gasoline fuel tanks .... right?
Thank you Mguy for being a voice of reason in these shady times.
Your channel is the only way I'd hear about any real EV news. These stories are buried by the media as two enormous battery plants are being built within a 2-hour drive from my home. BTW your Google TV listens, too.
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I start doubting the validity of the argument that electric cars go on fire less often. This may be true for a new car, but once they get over 10 yrs old I can't imagine that thin insulator holding up in all them 1775 batteries that are not individually monitored... And filling boats and underground garages with these makes me feel this is rather insanity than anything having to do with saving the planet!
"According to the Korea Insurance Development Institute, the number of fire and explosion incidents involving EVs has been higher than that of internal combustion engine vehicles over the past five years.
EVs had 0.93 incidents per 10,000 vehicles, while non-EVs had a lower rate of 0.90 incidents.
Moreover, the financial losses incurred in these incidents were significantly higher for EVs, with the average loss per incident tallied at 13 million won ($9,700), which is 1.9 times higher than the average of 6.9 million won for non-EVs."
Good luck finding a 10 year old EV with a battery that even holds enough of a charge to be worthwhile.
You are wise. The batteries deteriorate ever faster every year. Oh, man!
In this very article, Manufacturer Rivian admits to having as part of its operational processes, a containment area for vehicles suspect of entering a Li Battery related STIE. (Sudden Thermal Inferno Event). Therefore the argument some BEV fanboys make concerning decades old ICE cars is now completely invalid.
@@miraphycs7377 How many of those ICE fires were the result of arson or insurance fraud?
Imagine building a brand new vehicle and then having to send it directly to a designated safety area because it could catch fire right off the assembly line 🤣
The fact that a car manufacturer has designated containment areas for new cars, some of which may cook off at any given time, is crazy.
I've had EV owners arguing with me that energy transfer losses don't happen whith EV's 'because an EV is so efficient'. Yeah, that news article explains beautifully what I learnt at school - that transfers of all energy will encounter losses.
Absolutely 💯 % correct. An ideal battery simply doesn’t exist.
In electric grid loses of energy are significant - it is few times more than energy needed to transport gas. Then comes the heat which is produced in chargers and charged batteries
If there's heat coming out or detectable (its warm when you touch it), then the system is losing energy. It's that simple.
And the.higher the charge rate the more heat the car needs get rid of.
Can you imagine how much energy is wasted charging battery storage systems? yikes.
The fact they even need a designated isolation area is a serious problem
I'm constantly amazed at how many people have never heard of the EV fire hazard. It's criminal that our major news outlets refuse to report on it.
What a convenient excuse from Rivian . An employee not normally doing this job parked a defective vehicle with those ready for shipment. Give me a break.
That one had BS written all over it.
😂 Yeah... a brand new vehicle that's never been in an accident. Just like the Ford Lightning that did the same thing and shut down the factory for several weeks
Soooo.....you don't think people screw up?
@@garyballard179 oh they absolutely do, the entire EV fad is a gigantic human screw up. You seem to fail to understand the problem is the battery spontaneously going into thermal runaway, not that it was parked in the wrong section...
@ArshAZ83
Except that companies _do_ separate faulty products for re-evaluation and recycling/cannibalism.
And people really are absent-minded enough to forget which pile it goes in.
So, the county that over producing EV has ban EVs in underground car parks and garages.
That says a lot.
I never heard of a ICE vehicle burst in flames in the parking lot at their factories.
If the ban would be imposed not only for underground garages but also on above ground and for home garages all people could be safe from EV fire. Let them stay all in charging stations
It would be very very rare , but given there are about 2 billion ice vehicles some up to 50 years old on our little planet , there may have been an incidence , the other thing to take into account is , the majority of problems with vehicles are electric and ice too problems are more often Electrical , so it goes without saying cars that are only electrical will be more prone to more numbers of electrical problems , and we also have to take into account chargers and charging systems are also a fail point .
The other important thing to remember is, you can put a gas car fire out in minutes; an EV fire takes THOUSANDS of gallons of water and hours to do so.
If one did it was probably caused by an electrical short
As an engineer, I really enjoy your calm and logical approach and your enlightened conclusions 🏴😁
Worse, these cars are parked in front of homes and in parking garages. They are a threat to homes, businesses, and everything nearby.
Big Brother is watching(and listening in) you 24/7, sleep easy peeps
LOL paranoid much?
There’s 8 billion people on Earth, there’s not enough storage space to preserve all that data 24/7.
Personally I will never understand how and why huge companies are convinced that advertising works
When I want to buy something, I do so regardless of adverts not because of them
My advertising is checking on product reviews and in the case of vehicles the competence, reputation and customer care of the dealership. Advertising revenues are huge tax write-offs in spite of that it is amazing how many people are programmed to be influenced by them.
i rarely buy anything, nothing is affordable
Unfortunately you are part of the 3% of society with a functioning brain - the rest don’t get it…
Most people are inept when it comes to purchasing a vehicle. Most new vehicles are acquired by women, and they rely upon what the dealer tells them. The majority of people acquiring (It not actually buying) new cars, lease them. They don't have the 40k to 85k it takes to purchase one either. Most purchased vehicles are "Off Lease" cars, One observes them as "Certified Pre Owned"
@@tjhessmon4327 yup cars are overpriced, poorly made with bad products and fall apart cuz they are designed to fall apart, if i did buy a car it would be something used that will most likely fall apart that i will just drive into the ground and not maintain cuz no money and no time or id buy the cheapest newest car i could 20k, id rather buy used cash, if im going to live in it i would need a van either used or new but i dont have 40k cash so i would have to buy used
But hey, when the apocalypse strikes we can still sit around nice and warm battery fires.
Edit: So those are combustion cars after all?
External combustion vehicles. 😂😂
When the apocalypse comes EVs will be a pretty decent vehicle to have...all fuel production would stop and petrol and diesel fuel starts to degrade heavily after 12 months.. easy, reliable, no fuss, maintenance free fuel source from the sun would be perfect in that situation
You really need to do much more research. Your understanding of solar power is lacking. The amount of power needed far exceeds almost any solar source you could have. That doesn't take in to consideration, you won't be going far from your solar source. You can't carry the quantity you would need, with you!
@@aristo2jay what kind of crack are you smoking. You would need weeks to charge an EV battery using a shitty solar panel which degrade MUCH faster than diesel and cannot be made as easily, brainlet 🤣🤣 . They were making diesel in the 1860s, the tech is remedial. Even if some old stores go bad new bioduesel can be made in a barn. Whose going to make your solar panel when blowing sand etches the glass panel into uselessness in a year? lol
@@diann546 … Plus, this has been the cloudiest year in the UK to date.
The same thing will happen in Australia when we have weeks of 40 degrees or more in a row
The power infrastructure here in Australia can't even cope with people putting thier ac on during hot weather
Pesky details. 😂
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Ironic that manufacturers are required to make ICE vehicle more efficient, but EVs can waste electricity while charging.
Why is that ironic?
My question is this..... how many years would that EV have had to be on the road to make the pollution from the fire net zero ?
2573 years
It has to be on the road more than 12 years even if it didn't catch fire
@@geoff37s38 I'm impressed. 😳🤔🤔
A brand new battery car has made the same imprint as a normal 20 yo car that travelled 4000km/year.
That car hit a speedbump and immediately burst into flames...
Frightning how quick that was !!!!
Yeah looked like the underneath got punctured didn't it?, instant fire. They didn't run out of it in a hurry either, after seeing that guy in the lift I'd be out and running.
It hit a bollard I think.
Just the fact Rivian has a "designated Containment Area" says a lot.
1:54 Perfectly normal when your knock off Prius starts jumping 2 feet in the air for no reason, then bursts into flames.
Latest news a Tesla truck was on fire in the US ( probably driving from one factory to another and caught fire More than 190.000 liters of water were needed to stop the fire!!!!
That was on interstate 80, on I 15 there was a trailer loaded with ev batteries that caught fire and closed the freeway for 2 days.
Concerning the Ford eavesdropping issue it is amazing how struggling car manufacturers dig their financial hole even deeper by alienating their diehard customer base. I was never a ford fan anyway because of their continuing planned obsolescence issues. This is a different issue but I had a ford F-150 that stopped going into 4wd so I took it to a dealer for an estimate and it was over $1K. I called a mobile mechanic and a air vacuum plenum went bad on the firewall of the engine department. He removed one of the vacuum hoses and moved the other one to another port and the 4wd worked perfectly for the next few years I had the truck. No parts needed except a clamp to close the removed vacuum hose and it cost me $60 instead of $1K. So it appears the $500 part wasn't even needed to make the 4wd work in the first place. And to charge another $500 labor to do a job that would have required removing 4 screws and was in a very accessible place and could have been done in less than half an hour is absolutely absurd.
All that toxic smoke is really saving the environment. 😅
Having a good bit of experience with the conversion of electricity I tried to tell cult members about conversion losses but they never listen. It is appropriate that they pay for the electricity that doesn't make it into their battery. I'm looking forward to Surge Pricing and charge point companies actually pricing the charge at a point where they actually make money on charging a car.
Isn't an EV constantly using energy while parked just heating up or cooling of the batteries? How efficient can these things be.
@@who6339Don't forget about sentry mode. It will drain a battery just siting there. Recording everything.
I live in Northwestern Montana and it was -46°F last February I can only imagine the amount of energy an EV battery maintenance system would use to keep the battery from freezing when the car is just sitting there - at least an 80° F rise in temperature would be required
The idea of some police departments using EVs is insane due to all the lights,computers,equipment,etc wired in.
In addition to all those mentioned power draws listed, the battery will be drained even faster🙄
No wonder all our insurance premiums are going up- the cost of writing off these milk floats must be horrendous
As I posted before look at the destruction one EV fire in an indoor garage has caused .Now imagine the future when there are 300 EV's in an indoor garage.
Scaremongering! You are an Electrophobe!
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Thing is the lithium battery and the way it is used is totally wrong. Serially connected cells will all have the same outcome. One cell with a slightly higher internal resistance in a car is going to be the danger and no matter how you look at it not only is there a certain variation in the construction, all cells will fail in different ways in their life. The concept of rectifying mains AC to supply a huge DC high voltage charging current is extremely wasteful. It then gets chewed up again to drive the motor so as far as being green it is a joke. Petrol is the answer.
Totally, totally agree, my friend--but no EV idiot or liberal will agree with us (I think it is because their thinking mechanism was damaged, just like a lithium battery, somewhere along the line of their life, and was never fixed...)
Apartment owners can't have solar panels or Electric cars, apartments will eventually be the majority of homes.
You hit the nail right on the head.
Remember what Klous Schwab said.... "You will own nothing, and you will be happy"
why would they want you to own a car, when they don't want you leaving your 15 minute prison.... i mean city 😂
They already are. Ca. 70% of human population lives in the cities and 90% of those live in appartements or slums without ability to have personal chargers.
And average yearly income of EV "byers" is 60.000$ + but average yearly income for 70% of humans is bellow 10.000 USD.
Shortly,no,no way,never,absolutely impossible that we'll drive mostly EVs in the next 50 years.
In the rich west maybe but we're less than 20% of the world.
@@g.d2450 Let's face it, they won't want you to exist in the first place.
The MacMaster got lock into his car see My EV BATTERY DIED and I was left TRAPPED INSIDE my ELECTRIC CAR.
All EVs have a mechanic door release for when the battery is dead. Just that many people don't know it is there.
@@my3dviews And as proven by many many videos they only work for those in the front and not in the back....
@@hudsonbear5038 That has nothing to do with them being EVs. All cars have child resistant locks in the back seat, so that kids can't get out of the car while it is moving. My gasoline car had that in 1982.
I doubt that MacMaster got locked in the back seat. So, your comment didn't address that.
@@my3dviewsLOL What utter tosh ... Most EVs do not have a mechanical unlocking feature in the back... I have yet to come across and ICE like that... CHILD locks are a very different thing. YOUR comment didn't address what I was stating.
@@my3dviews Most evs(telsa certainly do not) have any for of mechanical ability to unlock the rear doors.. and THATS what we are talking about.. Not child locks.
Getting a little fed up of being told that ev batteries cost no more than new petrol engines.
No.
When my petrol engine has an issue, £20 for a new hose, for example, gets it back on the road.
And even if it did need an engine, scrap yards still exist.
The cost of the cars, cost of repairs, cost of insurance and massive depreciation are all eye watering
My sons Mazda ute has done 400,000kms on it's first engine, now got a good low mileage one in it and we are off again.
Thanks Simon, another top shelf report 👍
Imagine when these EVs are old how bad the fire issue will be.
In the Chinese city of Shenzhen, their taxis and buses have gone full electric since 2017. Some of these taxis have been running for almost 8 years, clocking up several hundreds of thousands of km in mileage, without having to change their batteries.
This VID trumps all other vids about EV's 😅
Well done Sir 👏
What if you were to be parked next to a car "with battery issues" when you go shopping? URGGGHHH!.
Simple solution:
Don't purchase too much stuff since you might have to walk home.
It is lottery with owned car on table. . . Remember now not leave dog or child alone in car in market.
Always great to have a new video from you
Good luck predicting which cars are going to need quarantine. Even harder to get the owner to admit their car is faulty in some way and should be quarantined.
not hard - just assume all EVs are about to go
@@Bobo-ox7fj good idea quarantine then all, and you are going to make that happen how?
Keep a magic 8 ball on your dash. shake it up and if it says FIRE you might just want to walk. @@Bobo-ox7fj
Hi MGUY, I am just wondering, when an EV burns, depending on its size, how much toxins are released in the atmosphere? Because if say there have been hundreds of these burning in the EU alone, they would in fact cause more damage to the environment than ICE cars.
In some states, they are mandating all schools to use EV school busses at $350,000 a pop. One, mechanics don’t know how to work on them and 2, u just wait until one goes on fire and the kids are running out of the bus. This is insanity, plus electric is not much cheaper than gas.
In my area they just finished converting all the school buses to natural gas, including installing a filling system. Now as those 'age out' they'll have to be replaced with electrics. Crazy, but that's California for you.
@@crosslink1493 California, the place where the state legislator who pushed for the legalisation of knowingly transmitting HIV to unsuspecting partners wants to make the roads safer by forcing speed limit alarms inside your car that glare at you if you exceed the posted limit even by a single mph and cannot be disabled without it being considering a felony.
@@ArshAZ83 in the future California prisons will be filled with people who disabled their vehicle speed limit alarms while the drug dealers and gang members will be roaming free
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The pollution produced by 1 EV truck fire is probably as much as formerly produced by all the diesels that have been replaced by ALL the EV trucks now on the roads.
Yes I just saw that video one day earlier ! Crazy 8 EV's daily on fire but nothing wrong people just walk on!!
I imagine not far in future new rules making obligatory for producers to equipp cars in installation for putting EV fire down Worthless but costly and in case not working or not periodicaly overhauled owner would be additionaly to it's saloon price fined
The British Fire Brigade have said the same thing. Not much at the moment but in years to come it's going to be a nightmare if the trend of buying them continues.
An enforced trend. England will soon have no new vehicles sold with the moronic Govt policies that will push car sales yet alone manufacture out of the country. Along with literally a million jobs
This will only stop when a government member has there family crisped then there will be an enquiry and hand wringing and blubbering in the press " how could this be allowed to happen?"......
You always hear EV's do not catch on fire anymore than a ICE car. As these EV's get older and some of the maintenance is ignored due to cost, the fires will go through the roof. When you get a dent/slight damage in the battery cover under your car you need to replace that battery. The rich can afford to do it. But if EV's are mandatory in your country down the road, average people have to pay for the costly batteries or scrap the EV.
Because EV fire reporting is generally hidden. Big Brother in cahoots with big media. So WHEN will these favours be repaid?
Objectively an ice car is much much more likely to set on fire.
Imagine ice cars would burn like this, eco hypocrats would screaming for banning it....
EV's are disposable toasters.
I'm surprised you didn't draw attention to that last paragraph on the Washington Assosiated Press articlae you showed at 13:28, it mentions that the vehicles 'automated features' weren't being used at the time. As if that really matters considering the horrific pollution that has occured.
It like they're saying "Yes, all this bad stuff happened... but look on the bright side, it wasn't down to automation.". It's an absolute clown world we're living in right now.
Those EV charging losses are horrible. I knew there was about 10% loss for the lithium batteries charging efficiency, but had no idea that it was much higher.
I am more and more grateful for my GM pushrod V6 every day!
How you going to get three hundred million EVs in china let alone the world? Not enough copper just for the first run of these so called EVs let alone the second and third run/ models. The depletion on these important minerals is insane just on a throwaway huge battery that’s also going to make everything else more expensive bcse of the the depleted precious minerals. So much for renewable
You mean copper cladded steel wire. China copper 👎
@@techno1721 No! Cobalt
BYD = Burn Your Dreams
Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
There are no "privacy rules". The technology taking away our privacy is moving faster than I can keep up with. Starting to feel like indentured servitude, giving 40% of my income to the "master" and having to follow rules the "master" doesn't have to follow.
There was a garage youtube channel where the guy held up a set of ignition points with the caption saying this is what freedom looks like.
Uncle Tony’s?
Remember Diesel-gate; I would not trust VW with any claims or test results.
Thanks Simon. Judging by some of the comments you've upset the EVangelists by stating facts.
The scary part of this article is that we now know Rivian has, as part of its normal manufacturing process, a containment area where BEVs which are suspect of entering a Sudden Thermal Inferno Event (STIE) are being parked. That is a very clear admission of the inherent danger of Lithium Ion based, Battery Operated Electric Vehicles.
How are you going to move any ev with a damaged battery?
I wondered that. If you put it in a workshop you could lose the building. I suppose you need a special facility where you can remove the battery before doing accident repairs elsewhere.
Yes? I guess
Very carefully.
I understand that South Korea has restricted EV Vehicles from high rise parking spaces due to the fire risk.
In NYC, a parking garage with an admittedly spotty inspection history collapsed, likely from the added weight of EVs. Each one weighs roughly twice as much as a comparable car.
@@stephenkalatucka6213they don’t. They weight about 25-30% more. But just another example of the misinformation you guys lap up without even the slightest bit of research.
Philip K. Dick was such a clairvoyant ! I refer you to Minority Report.
That’s what I was thinking with the targeted ads.
American gallons are different to imperial, 50000 gallons would be 227000 litres in the uk
Who uses imperial gallons?
@@xpusostomos The UK. In fact, anything sold in gallons or anything based on gallons, is legally required to be based on the UK gallon.
I asked this question about what "a pint of beer" means in the UK, to a member of an electrician's discussion board who lives in Scotland. I would think by now, they'd just consider 500 mL to be a pint, and forget about the UK gallon. But it turns out, it's still the pint that's based on the UK gallon.
@@carultch I thought the UK was basically metric. You don't buy gallons of fuel in the UK surely?
How much is 1 UK litre to the EU litre … 🤦
@@xpusostomos Canada, Ireland, UK, Australia, New Zealand some Caribbean countries...
We hate Flord anyway! Over priced poor quality shitboxes.
You mean Fardt?????
18,000 per year
That 45 ev fires per day
So i must wonder, how many are going up in flames here in Australia and not being reported ?
None. Because when an EV sets on fire it’s worldwide news.
On the efficiency of electric cars , they are actually "energy hogs" , the charging as mentioned is also another point of inefficiency , but as soon an EV goes out of its ideal operating conditions , the electric motor or motors can and will draw more power , this is fact !
Add to that wipers , air conditioning ,heaters , hills , wind , heavy loads all have an adverse effect on the energy consumption greater than ICE vehicles .
And an ideal example of this is when an electric or suv or truck with a lets say for example a 400 mile range on a good day , ideal conditions , but then has to tow something and is reduced to 100 miles range , and there are many many of these tests done on the tube showing just this .
The only time electric vehicles are efficient ......... is when you are stopped at the lights .
You couldnt pay me to buy an electric car/vehicle !
Don’t forget the battery management system has to keep the battery within a narrow range of temperatures it was -46°F in northwestern Montana this year that’s an 80°F temperature differential just to keep the battery from freezing
@@ragtowne Yes indeed mate .
Ban EV's from multistorey car parks, eventually those car parks will be useless.
All those burning EV's. Tell me folks what sort of long term effects are there from all those burning cars in the environment? Is that green? Is it healthy? Is it safe? And what of all those stacked up in fields that could not be sold? Only takes one going off which would take out the whole field of them. Wonderful use of technology.
Yes, the fumes are made of unicorn farts and rainbows
But the upside is once they think the fires out it gets hauled off to possibly start burning again days/weeks/months later.
well the more Ev's are sold around the world the more coal we have to burn.
I live in Bell County, Texas. The numbers you have stated, if applied proportionally to where I live, would mean that we do not have enough fire trucks to fight the car fires. This is grassland. If an EV catches fire, we will have to keep a grass fire from spreading. Forget the car!
The Rivian "employee leak" sounds like an internally sanctioned damage limitation operation by the company.
That truck was ready for shipping, and they didn't have a clue it was going to blow, and rustled up a cock and bull story about a mistake. There's no way they wouldn't have strict safety procedures in place to make that situation impossible. Not a corporation that size, mired in health and safety compliance regulations. I call BS. They just don't want to admit it was headed to a customer.
A coin toss is used to determine parking locations.
I begin to wonder if today's engineers are seriously "math challenged". We had a similar situation in the 70's with "emergency lighting systems" self-immolating in the military but without common knowledge as to the cause. Our aircraft had NiCad batteries for onboard electric power, no problems, but the Li Ion batteries in our workshops were all removed in the mid-seventies. I was an avionics tech at the time, young, no information regarding the problem was disseminated, and the lighting systems we removed were dumped in dumpsters and ultimately in "landfills". It's been almost fifty years since, and still no, or very little alarm given. A short in zinc-carbon or NiCad leave a minor chemical contamination but any problem with lithium ion means a significant to catastrophic fire. I can hardly wait to see "electric aircraft" and expect that will happen, for a very short time.
More excitement in coming... The Mountain Bike community are buying E-Bikes in ever increasing numbers. Consider that Mountain Bikers like to ride in the mountains (go figure). A critical battery in a E-Bike will cause even more mayhem. When the fire starts in the forrest the rider will not be able to out run the fire that results...
I've seen video with ports all over Europe having thousands of EV's in lots no where to go. Some being there over a year or more. How are EV batteries that are not used for a year or longer react when they are starting up or recharged. More EV fires in China means more everywhere else. Terrible that some many humans will lose their lives because they trusted their government.
Does anyone know where China is going to get the necessary electricity for three hundred million electric cars?
They're building a record number of coal-fired power plants. They're clean coal power plants, so it's "green" 😅
@@AthoniteCole baby, Cole. Dig dig dig.
@@Athonitethey are building a few small coal plants but have committed to renewable energy in the next 20 years.
Car media in the UK say they believe the government will not relax it's rules and that they will still try to force everyone to go EV regardless of logic.
The last bit of the last episode of The Grand Tour Jeremy Clarkson says straight up he hates EVs because they are appliances and the forced rise of EVs is one of the reasons he's leaving car journalism.
Maybe China is the large scale EV experiment, but I think Australia would be its smaller scale experiment. With all Chinese EV makes coming to our shores, and the Government laying down the red carpet! At least the US has put tariffs on the Chinese EVs.
On a recent visit to the UK I saw polestars in a showroom in the middle of a Mall..! The mall is just outside Bristol (cribbs causeway). The Mall was absolute packed with families getting school clothes before term starts. 🧐
What’s your point….?
I wonder, if they had just let the Tesla Semi burn out, would that not have been more environmentally friendly, instead of contaminating such a huge amount of water? It is not extinguishable anyway.
Regarding the story about the Tesla doors, and the inability to open them, here's what makes a much better design:
1. Make door handles so that the SAME door handle that releases the door electronically, can also manually release the door.
2. Design it so that a gentle pull to the handle, releases the latch electronically, while muscling the handle open to its farthest position with a much greater force force, will manually open the door.
3. Put in a resistance spring, to deter accidental use of the manual release, if it really is necessary to prioritize electronic release
4. Doors should ALWAYS be able to be opened from the inside, even if the car is locked.
This way, NO ONE has to read a manual to find the emergency release. It's the same mental exercise as disembarking in general.
That should be required by law.
You say ‘inability to open them’ they literally all have a mechanical latch.
@@Audioremedy0785 Where is the mechanical latch in the back seat of a Model 3? Can a child or elderly person operate it?
@@softwarephil1709 it’s in the side door about 8cm away from the control button. An adult could very easily use it. A young child couldn’t - but its overrides the child lock so you wouldn’t want them to be able to. This system is an alternative to the traditional mechanical child lock systems in older cars where there is no override mechanism. So it’s infinitely safer 👍🏻
Armaguard Melbourne has a electric armoured truck. I work for Armaguard in Queensland we where given the range 80km ladien 100km empty. 😂😂😂😂 and that's turning A/C off and truck during jobs. It's part of the Green Fox agenda.
Im beginning to wonder about plug-in hybrids. Just a smaller fire I guess.
Thank you for covering the Ford listening thing. Can you also talk about which brands are snitching on their occupants? I know Toyota is voiding warranties on the GR Corolla if you went over 85mph because they strapped a huge turbo to a little engine and didn't want to pay when it inevitably self detonated at low miles.
I would love your take on car brands that are *not* betraying their customers if there are any remaining
The driver has to assume a lot of that responsibility as small engine cars are not designed to go 85 mph for extended periods of time. That is where big comfortable V8's shine.
@@elonever.2.071 Toyota has to assume *all* of the responsibility for putting out something so fragile that it cannot be driven as advertised, or even in a way that you might encounter whilst commuting
Toyota will be responsible. Someone at Toyota had a bad hot take. You Are allowed to drive the cars over 85mph if the tires are rated for it, it says so in the manual.
MGuy a voice of reason in this insane EV push. Thanks
Tesla semi trucks battery is around 900kWh.
We have been currently converting that into BTUs.
Roughly 10x what is in 18:39 the Tesla 3 passenger car. That goes for the weight as well. 🪫
Gee ... No environmental impacts here eh? Thanks for all your continued efforts in presenting the Truth clear and concisely.