There's a Steam Locomotive Beneath Roll Hill in Cincinnati, Ohio 🚂History in the Dark
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2022
- I feel like our ancestors left far too many of these just lying around. Apparently, the never completed Roll Hill Tunnel, which was supposed to be a part of the failed Cincinnati Western Railroad, contains a small, forgotten, steam engine. Because of course it does.
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I am a mass excavation foreman for a construction company in Utah and we find things all the time like old railway equipment, old cabin foundations, stuff from the pioneers, native things, fossils, and sometimes bodies or graves. And the sad reality is that time is money and the higher ups do not care. If we find something and report it they just sweep it under the rug and keep on going because if its something that gets alot of attention then the jobsite could be shut down and then that cuts into their wallets. I've watched a crew run a sewer line through an old grave from the 1800's because no one cared, this is the world we live in, time is money and the past doesn't matter and it breaks my heart. I do like to take the little things home with me when I can though but thats all I can do.
As a engineering geologist, I feel your pain... Unfortunately, a lot of the time, even if we could remove the items to preserve it, who is going to take it on? Most museums can't or don't have the money to store or display many of their own relics, or would consider whether or not "historic or important enough to conserve". While it is nice to get it out, and potentially conserve it, but someone needs to pay for its ongoing conservation and that's often when a lot of items that do end up being excavated end up being either sold, or even having to be lost to history (quietly thrown out) as the costs to keep it often out way the cost of leaving it in the ground.
We can't save everything from the past, rather we have to have a plan on what we do with it once we take it out, as we are now responsible for its ongoing conservation of that item.
@MERCENARYREVY I've heard of something like that but no, no giants just ancient sea life fossils or the occasional allosaurus and stuff. Wouldn't mind finding a giant though lol
My house was actually built on top of a old tender from a Danish narrow gauge locomotive
There is a lot of railway history in Cincy. The abandoned Subway tunnels are an odd story.
Edit: I did not know about this piece of local history. This is really cool.
Those were almost used in a Batman movie!
...just..not a good one.
Another great episode.
Another, rumoured, buried locomotive you may want to look at is the story that apparently there is a locomotive buried under Wembley stadium.
As far as I can remember the story goes something like, a few steam locomotives were used to help dismantle Wembley Tower, otherwise known as Watkin's Tower or Watkin's folly, when one of them apparently sank into the ground.
Where it sank is the same spot as where Wembley stadium was built.
I don't know if this story is true but it's interesting nether the less.
Darkness i actually live in Cincinnati Ohio and i didn't know about the steam engine. Love the videos keep up the awesome job 👍
Well From what I understand there are thousands to possibly near a million, different types of underground mines in the USA alone. But I would love to see if there are any lost train stories that happen in Arizona . I had seen some photos of some abandoned line south of flagstaff not to far north from the Junipine resort. I found a map of abandoned lines/ old railway lines from 1920 and there are lines coming from Williams heading south.
I LIVE IN CINCINNATI OHIO AND NEVER KNEW THISSS!!!!! Omggg!!! Also I been into trains sense I was literally like 2 I’m 16 now and been to Central station in Cincinnati a bunch for the model train show
The hill on Baltimore Ave. when they excavated I-74 had opened up a small tunnel on the face of the hill half way up the side of the hill. Someone told us then that it was supposed to be connected to a house on the top of the hill on McHenry used for the “Underground Railroad”. Anyone ever heard of this?
I once read an account of a runaway locomotive that fell off a wooden trestle bridge into a quicksand pit and was swallowed whole. The story took place in the American southwest but I can’t remember what state. I think it was Nevada but I’m not sure.
I'm from Cincinnati and have researched this locomotive and have been waiting for this documentary. Thanks for making it, darkness!
Do you know of any Underground Railroad tunnel history on Baltimore Ave?
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Strike two construction workers. Literally, steam locomotive RIGHT THERE as you're building a skyscraper and do not care then a steam locomotive RIGHT THERE while you're building apartments. Who cares if it attracts attention? You literally have flat bed trucks to take it away from the site and stop far enough away that it won't stop the project.
If only they thought like that and used their cranes and flatbed trucks to just simply remove and relocate till later.
Seeing something like this makes me feel sad for the poor buried locomotives that had a chance but thrown away like garbage for a second time
If you want to break away from rail stuff, then do the Summerland disaster in the Isle of Man in 1973. That's horrifying.
Edit :- and for something that is railway, do the Summit Tunnel fire of the 20th December 1984 (yes, just before Christmas). That one is amazing.
My favorite city has many secrets. Is this the theme of the next Kings Island coaster?
great reference to Mr Burns there
If they saw copper, this could be the engine's firebox - the boiler would be iron or steel. I'm intrigued by the 2-2-0 photo, which is a new one to me; she looks like a Stephenson 'Planet', or possibly a Baldwin 'Old Ironsides' type lurking underneath all the later accessories.
makes you wonder if they actually blew up the tunnel to write off what might have been a outdated steam engine by that point in time.
its a shame that there is little information on this story
Back to the streak of having No British Rail involved
Idea make your own tunnels
I love trains and my dad lives 4 hours away
I’ve found out something that you may enjoy, Darkness.
Apparently, there’s a Shay sunk in Swan Lake, MT. I haven’t been able to find anything on it apart from a few rumours, but maybe you and your team can dig up some stuff on it? May be kinda interesting!
And there’s a steam locomotive sunk at a CSX bridge in Louisiana, and a sunken steam locomotive In canche river in France that being nord 4-6-2 pacific 3.1161 built in 1912 I found just one picture of the engine, she appears to be crossing a bridge
Nice buddy
I'm from Cincinnati and I live not even 5 minutes away from there and talk about right at my back door
Honestly I am inspired to look for a lost steam engine now. In my town there are still bricks from the 1800s right under the modern paved roads, anything could happen!
Are there any bizarre hidden trains in Los Angeles? I live out here and have to think there have to be some old trains sealed off somewhere.
Big fan of the channel, btw! I'm listening to your content as I edit videos at work!
Yeah. They have an old interurban station downtown. Pacific Electric.
I can see way the Irish rail way workmen got very cross about not getting paid for building that tunnel.
I guess they destroyed it and possibly the engine too.
I remember hearing about this in school as a kid and always wondered where it was
Los Angeles can only have a sunk locomotive, there were to no tunnels and only one subway which remains empty and abandoned.
Ah yes, of course a story about Cincinnati involves the excessive construction of freeways.
"What was that? Downtown, livability? Nah, FREEWAYS!!!"
A lot of these tunnel situation are obviously dangerous and the more u have to dig to get into them the bigger risk, so why not use small drones, could be wheeled or track or even leg based, heck I saw not to long ago a drone for going inside small tight spaces that flies and that's because its props are shielded, so instead of opening up a person sized hole just use a small one, why not ask the people living there to allow u to use a magnetometer to determine where the locomotive is likely then drill a small narrow hole something line 5 inches across and lower a camera with a light on it to see if its in that part of the tunnel.
I bet they'll find the ancient city of atlantis and then order it filled in
Wlep I know what I'm doing I'm going to move to Cincinnati because I live near Cincinnati and try to find the locomotive
Even though it has no trains left inside of it, can you do Stumphouse Tunnel next?
Why was this area named Roll hill?
I hope it wasn't named that because people were "rolled' in that area. Rolled meaning robbed.
If you know anything about The Fay Apartments that would be a fitting name lol
How much would dragging a ground radar across the tunnel area cost? No futher down then it be would a low powered ground sonar do any good? At least it might prove if and where locomotive is.
the engine may well have been a 0-4-0 tender engine as I think they would been small engines
His-story is just that, a story. Look into Tartaria, mud floods, star forts, and orphan TRAINS.
There was a highly advanced, culture right here in America, as well as the rest of the world. We were never taught about it in school, but the evidence is all around, once you get trained to see it.
That was the original goal of that rail line however the Eastern part of the route was reused for the western hills /cheviot scenic train which was in operation until the 1980s I would walk under the overpass everyday going to school
It was more of a tourist and commuter's line than anything else but it was awesome
There are still remnants of it in the concrete support's on both State Ave and Ernst st 🚂
In the Cardinal ingredion there is an also steam switcher
Chances are the loco is stuck under concrete at this point
If it's Cincy, and it's the 1800s, safley assume riverboat magnates as the cause for corruption. It's the queen city or jewel city for a reason and having twenty launches a day at one point tells you how things went.
Ooking at the websote showing wjere this tunnel was i cant see anything odvious on historic aerials back to 1932 or 1956
You should make a video about the Soham rail disaster in England.
I have,I grow up in Westwood
is it possible to include Olton Hall in one of the list videos? I'm sorry for asking so much I'm a fan of the Harry Potter movies and the Hogwarts Express is one of my favorite British locomotives ever.
She was part of an unremarkable class and an unremarkable engine
I'm sure it'll be mentioned eventually, it's a very famous engine.
This wasn't the last time Irish people blew up railways. The Irish Civil War is proof of that.
Sounds like an act of the Molly Maguires
Ive heard about that railroad
wow some one finally made a video about this thanks bro i worked at the fay apartments now known as roll hill apartments for 8 yrs and knew the story of the lost train wen they did the rehab up there the new owners of the property tried to dig it out but on my lunch break i explored that hill side all the time
I wish i was a forgotten locomotive
Why?
@@bussesandtrains1218 because I could go on without change and unnoticed by THE LAW , and as trains or rr tracks are symbolic meanings for TIME and time travel I’d be free to travel both time and space at my own will.
Duh
I thought everyone knew that
That’s why I wrote it to begin with
I should have written it BEFORE, the post , link , video was made or even thought of ... however any port in a storm
Have a nice time, 🐇🕳
Ps ,
Try mud flood
Tartarian
Greco Roman architecture
Gothic cathedrals
Brick tunnels
The Autodidact channel
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The infrastructure and logistics of 🧱 / the labor and energy needed to just bake the bricks isn’t congruent with the official narrative of historical presentations.
The facts don’t match the stories
Always with uneducated and confused immigrants
Impossible as these things are articulated and require intensive maintenance and integrated cooperative skills.
The tracks , tunnels , geo engineering, alone are way too much energy requirements
No , they have destroyed historical buildings intentionally
I’m from Scranton pa
It’s history doesn’t match either
Steamtown / electrick city
The buildings have 3 ft thick brick walls - look up Steamtown station
Everyone hates old stuff
Because it requires work and doesn’t line up with the official narrative.
I doubt one of these trains could be produced today
Really
Big bertha of the lickey incline
She was scrapped
Only in Ohio 🚂
The Boss: SIKE! you’re not gonna get payed suckers!
Irish immigrants: 😠😠😠😡😡😡😡 let’s blow up the tunnel, that’ll teach them a lesson.
if this took place in the 1850s then they would have black powder to blow the rock apart and possibly the engine too
Down in Ohio sawg like Ohio
Shut up
Only in Ohio
Ohio sucks at preserving the states history..