ANdor was made by adults with real writing skills. It showed in the slow character developments but so good to experienced as a viewer. It showed in the choice of castings. It feels like watching Orwell's 1984 in space.
In many ways it was functionally the furthest from the roots of Star Wars, but at the same time it was the only series that genuinely _respected_ both the universe and the audience. I felt something I haven't in almost any other Star Wars production, that not only was I being taken seriously by the writers, but that Star Wars was being taken seriously too. Never mind Star Wars, that's a rarity in _any_ media. Almost everything else has been a cheap cash-in or knock-off, just there because some suit who's never watched a Star Wars movie in his life thinks that franchise hasn't been returning high enough numbers.
@@DarkFenix2k5 Yup... I felt the heaviness of of living under fear and the release of breaking out of prison literally and figuratively. I rewatched many times and every time I catch some new nuance.
I agree. Without having any Force Welders in the show along with the way, it was written, captivated the audience about oppression, love, and triumph through the human spirit. That’s why I think this show was fantastic and it just happened to be set in a galaxy far far away…….
Totally Agree. I absolutely Love the entire Andor series from the beginning. When considered as an entire story arc, it's one of the best Sci-Fi-Opera stream series ever made. Rogue One remains my 3rd most rewatched SW film, right behind IV and V. Once in awhile the stars come together for mega hits like these. Thank the Gods for 4k discs.
Andor suffered from lack of viewers when it released. But it found an audience and a lot of love afterwards. For me it's better than the sequels, Solo, mando season 3 and all other Disney+ shows. The writing and acting on another level. But that's just me 😊
I agree. The only star wars better than this was the OT and it gives ROTJ a run for it's money. This is my third favorite star wars project ever. So good
@@SeArCh4DrEaMz that's kinda the point... Andor is about realistic real life of civilians and rebels not some elite forces Jedi mumbo jumbo Andor and Rogue One are by far the most realistic Star Wars ever made... it's made for adults and not made in a way that's rated E for everyone or anyone under 12 or 14... it's made for 16+ which basically means Andor is what Real life Star Wars is... Other movies look sort of like uhh... a fairy tale or somethin' You know what i mean?
While tone might be slightly different, this is the kind of Star Wars I wanted to see in my youth following Empire. Took 30+ years to get it, but was sooooo worth the wait.
Considering that Empire is the best Star Wars movie ( With A New Hope a close second.....eeeeaaaasy, people), it has the best tone to follow. Which, sadly no one ever did. So, I'm so grateful for Andor.
Same here! Ad a kid I remember being confused or annoyed when C3PO was strutting around on Endor while all the rebel troops were wearing camo & hiding in the bushes. I always wanted a star wars that was more like those old French Resistance/ Spy films. In my childish mind, I even justified the stormtroopers white armour as being great camo for boarding spaceships like the intro in episode 3.
That moment is the price presented. The price of revolution. Only a few will touch freedom, and they will touch it on the shoulders of countless masses of corpses. A lot of the corpses thought they'd get to freedom. Kino already knew he was going to be in the pile, and did it anyway. Andor is 1984, Russian Revolution (minus the Revolution's betrayal, for the moment) and children of men all together, at exactly the moment we all need to see it. What an absolute masterpiece.
The way this was shot and written is exactly what was needed, It moved Star Wars away from the fairy tale tropes of all the previous films. If they want this franchise to evolve and grow this is the way forward.
Nothing “slow” in episodes 1-3, if people pay attention. Every moment and line is important and pays off. They are among my favourite episodes. Galen Erso would be a very welcome addition, and the scene I would most love would be one between him and the pilot defector, Bodhi Rook. It wouldn’t be terribly dramatic if all of Cassian‘s friends were killed before they even reached their destination - as there are four years, it makes much more sense for them to die one by one for maximum dramatic impact. Plus Adria Arjona (Bix) seems to have a pretty major role, going by the leaked sizzle reel trailers. Losing her , considering she’s arguably the single most important person left in Cassian’s life at this time, shouldn’t just happen off screen.
agree there's more depth in a few minutes of Andor than the entire acolyte, pick any few minutes you want..... it's to me about as opposite from tradtional disney plus star wars fomula of have a lightsaber fight or two, have a couple of ships in space there you go thats star wars and then crap over the whole idea of Star Wars. I thought the idea of these shows was to go deeoer into the star wars universe and cover some detail of which Lucas left plenty of wiggle room to do from the original six films... it does that very well and there's nothing else that does this so well, at all reallly apart from the Mandalorian does that ok. I personally like the idea all the players are very sure about which side they are on, Cassian is the one who is not!
I never understood the "It's slow" complaint. Every shot is riveting and has something to say. The only show that was more consistently intense was The Expanse. Everything else feels like fluff and filler by comparison.
Absolutely agreed. There was nothing slow about those first three episodes. Every moment mattered, every moment told a story that makes what comes later more impact full. It likes someone looking at a beautiful skyscraper and concluding that let's just duplicate the shell and simply stack copies of it in other cities without the need for a foundation. They don't realize that the shell is nothing without the foundation....it is the foundation and all those steel beams behind the scenes that make the beauty of the building possible.
I personally found the first 3 episodes really compelling. I just think that everyone was so accustomed to every other SW show having a battle / fight sequence in every episode (often to pad the so-so writing) that when this came along, it was considered “slow” because of the lack of pew-pew and kaboom.
What made this show so great was it really exposed just how corrupt, tyrannical and evil the Empire was. They put it blatantly in the viewers face. Definitely the best Star Wars series on Disney since the Mandolorian.
Didn't give this much of a shot after the first episode, but my brother prodded me to give it another try. Was blown away at how good it was. A star wars story for adults. Great writing, acting and directing. Just what every other Star Wars story on Disney lacked.
I suppose it's a testimony to how well the series played out, that I saw this video and thought there's already been two seasons. My brain has a hard time accepting that there was so much quality story telling, and so much that happened, in just one season of a show.
If they’re going to make the second season “very different this time around” that is definitively NOT a good thing. I thought Andor was the finest Star Wars production ever made. Doing away with the infantile space ninja magic, and giving the script writing duties to a real writer, turned the show into something that felt much more like an Aasimov style space epic (like Foundation). I was hooked from the first episode. The dialogue was spectacular, the actors were first rate (Adria Arjona and Diego Luna were mind blowing). The effects were stellar and the action was thrilling (the whole sequence where they steal the Empire’s gold and escape under cover of the glowing meteor storm was absolutely exhilarating). What a magnificent achievement. I hope it’s not TOO different.
I agree. I think what might be different is the time jump aspect since they have to cover I think 5 years. I don't see Gilroy and his crew dropping the ball. They may not be able to cover some of the details, but I think we will have to enough.
For anybody who played WEG’s Star Wars RPG in the 80s and 90s, “Andor” is a great adaptation of how that game felt, with rebel cells going on operations while hunted by COMPNOR and the ISB. SWRPG is criminally underrated as a key element of what made modern SW what it is: so many concepts and elements we now take for granted were in fact invented by the creators of that game and blessed as canon by Lucas subsequently.
Yes, yes and yes! The old D6 SWRPG was amazing. I spent hours upon hours reading Galaxy Guide 10 (in particular) cover to cover! Andor reminded me so much of the campaigns I used to run. What great times.
The show had some of the best writing on television and some of the most useful deconstructions of what rebelling against tyranny really requires. It transcends the genre
The first two episodes were a bit slow but the series was the best star wars project ive seen not named a new hope or empire strikes back. Amazing to do without a vader like presence.
I think it would be a disservice to say this show is by far the best show set in the Star Wars universe so far, but it's actually one of the very best productions to make it to screen in any genre in a very long time. The writing, the cast and their performances, and everything else was just quite simply top tier story telling and entertainment.
One thing that made this show so good is that, they sat back and told their story. No real concerns about placating to the fan service model. Or press an external agenda. Pretty obvious that they attempted the fan service to goop over the agenda. Doesn’t work. Go ahead and place your Easter eggs, your deep cuts, but just tell your story.
I loved that all the easter eggs were from the production crew. Need a security camera? Use the established ones from the Death Star. In a shuttle terminal? Throw some familiar names on the departures board. Things like that make it feel like a natural part of the same world without constant original trilogy quotes or mentions of the Force.
I really love Andor, the cast was incredible and had a great story to tell. Honestly, I liked how sad it was. Also, they definitely made some mistakes. Definitely one of my favorites and looking forward to season two!
IMO, easily the best live action Star Wars series. I think it's possible Luthen is either a Jedi hiding in plain sight, or at minimum a force sensitive.
If Kino Loy is still alive in S2 ... I'll be not just disappointed, I'll be angry. He KNOWS ... the idea that they'd leave him alive (after what we saw in S1) and just send him back to work ... is ludicrous. But, beyond that, it would undermine his character arc and one of the most important over arching themes of S1: knowing sacrifice
No. You didn’t hear his whole speech. In it, he tells the inmates to band together and help each other escape. That’s not what they were incentivized to do by the prison labor rules. The inmates were forced to compete and fight each other by the Empire in order to control them. But Kino inspired them to work together…so those inmates helped him escape over the water. And I think Kino returns as a rebel general and maybe sacrificing himself to win an important battle.
Andor is the adult version of Star Wars, where The Empire is an evil bureaucracy and leaders of the rebellion are just people in the right place at the wrong time. Things like the gameification of imprisonment were pure genius. Loved it, looking forward to S02.
I just last night finished watching Andor for the third time. Yes it’s tone is much different than the original trilogy. Yes it’s dark. Yes there are no jedi. None of this is a problem, and it is the “deepest” of any of the other shows or movies, even Rogue One. Regardless, it shows that SW can be thought provoking, and not just a space fantasy romp. I look forward to season 2 more than I can say, as long as they carry the established story forward, and don’t pull an “acolyte”.
Andor is the best Star Wars since Empire. The thing with Star Wars is that there's room for a variety of material. There's no reason we couldn't have "Solo" with a Guardians of the Galaxy vibe, Mandolorian with its "Kung Fu" vibe, Andor being super serious, and the saga films filling out the fantasy role. That, to me, is how you succeed with a franchise of this scale. You don't try to market everything to everyone, have niches.
It's called "Star Wars" but you only truly feel the gravity of that title watching "Rogue One", "Andor" and "The Clone Wars". Besides those series you really never experience the impact this Galactic Empire has on the average person in the galaxy.
It does not feel farthest away from the original trilogy. In fact it looks ans feels like it's _from_ the 70s -- like if Scorcese somehow directed a Star Wars TV series with 2020s technology.
Andor was total Star Wars. Just from a different perspective. It really showed just how tyrannical the Empire was, from their intolerance for small skirmishes on backwoods planets to the human slave labor on Narkina 5. This would have been around the same time the loose rebel cells started to get more organized, with Mon Mothma help fund the operation from inside the Empire. Of course in Rebels she obviously catches too much heat and has to be rescued and taken to Yavin.
Andor is the best of what the Disney Star Wars era has had to offer. The rest has largely been a flaming dumpster fire approximately the size of Manhattan.
The Disney executives should be taking note of Andor's success. Hire good scriptwriters who want to build quality character development and arcs. Give the production breathing space to grow. Stop writing from ideology and start putting the fans first. Fans if you enjoy the show get in behind it and let them know they are on the right track.
Andor wasn't given the marketing it deserved. Disney has a track record if it even goes as far back as their old hand drawn animations like treasure planet for example.
Praying it doesn't go the same way as Mando, when the higher ups find out a SW property they had little to do with is great and go a bugger it up... hoping I'm wrong as I loved the first season
Andor also evokes to me the darker dystopian direction 1970s SF was going before Star Wars came along. Stuff like Blake's 7, Logan's Run, Silent Running, Farenheit 451 or even THX 1138. I feel like in some ways it's the alternate path Star Wars could have taken at the time of its creation, if it continued down that cynical but cautionary path.
The beginning of S1 only “felt slow” and “required patience” for numbskulls who basically consider themselves beneficiaries of the McDonaldsization of entertainment and storytelling in the US. Anyone who has watched and loved The Wire (for example) did not feel the need to “speed things up” - they were simply engrossed in a complex and breathtaking story, wondering where it would take them, and issuing no complaints. Don’t try to subtract points from Andor because it isn’t the storytelling equivalent of a f***ing happy meal. Thanks!
Trusting Tony to do this project was a stretch even for Kathleen Kennedy, however it has opened the door to do more world building, and add other characters who by their own merits helped form the alliance. Little is known of the formation of the separatists, the Geonosians, how Czerka corp's influence helped emperor Palpatine and the First Order, and what about the other generals of the rebel alliance, or how did the Mon Calamari get involved? Where was the war waged that caused the escape of Cal Kestus? Where was Ahsoka Tano when Anakin became Vader? there are truly so many areas for exploration and expansion for stories and games, I'm especially interested in how the Outlaws story came to being!
I saw the first Star Wars on the first day of release - 5 times by hiding under the seats between shows. Andor, which I have also watched more than once, without enduring sticky floors, is the best Star Wars since that day in May 1977. Cant's wait for April (?) 2025!
I want to see a confrontation between Mon Mothma and Palpatine where she dispenses with formalities and fake obsequiousness and finally tells him to his face what a foll she's been all these years not to realize and truly see him for the monster he's always been. Being Palatine he takes it stride but gives and ominous warning to her as she leaves an while his words don't say much, Mon can tell her time is up, Palaptine has finally lost his patience with her, and she needs to get the hell out of dodge NOW before Palapatine sends the ISB (perhaps led by Dedra herself) after her.
Andor was the most politically complex of the Star Wars canon. The soulless bureaucracy - with it's intrinsic office politics - that enabled the empire was made explicit. However evil they were, the Emperor and Darth Vader couldn't have run things on their own without a tame bureaucracy and a military. And not everyone was a Jedi knight or a member of the planetary aristocracy. The downtrodden working class and criminal underclass at the empire's margins was well represented too.
I too thought that B2 EMO would be killed and somehow downloaded into the imperial droid to become K2, but was berated online by SW fans for the idea. They couldn't agree with it or like the idea. I mean B2 was a droid that said he needed more power to lie, and i think K2 is a droid with no tact and is brutally honest about everything, instead of sparing your feelings he comes straight out with an honest POV of the situation.
Furthest from the Original Trilogy??? It's literally the prequel to the Original Trilogy! It has the lived in universe feel, it sets up A New Hope, and even makes that title make sense. You probably mean the furthest from the Prequel Trilogy.
You guys seems to forget one thing. On episode 1, Andor was looking for his sister. Never gets mention again after that episode. My guess, he'll find her in season 2, only to have her killed by the Empire or the ISB. That's when he truly "lost everything".
No Jedi, no lightsabers... yet its the best Star Wars since the original trilogy. It has been the victim of low viewership by no fault of its own (basically Disney has been shoveling crap for so long that people checked out and missed out on this gem). But considering the word of mouth and high praise from reviewers, everyone is hoping season two will be a different story.
I disagree that its the furthest from the original trilogy. I think visually it feels closer than anything before. It has the grit, realism, and desperation of the first trilogy without allowing the "force" to swoop in and be the hero. Each action of rebellion feels personal & impactful character development as the characters in the OG trilogy where the sequel trilogy makes those brakes just convenient plot elements. Yes, it doesn't have lightsabers or jedi. But if you took everything else of the OG trilogy, it feels a lot like this show. I do think the next season has some interesting challenges. First, the rise of the rebellion and second, Cassian's transformation from his current character to his character in Rogue One.
By far the best Star Wars series yet.
Best star wars*
And it ain't even close
It’s the only one written firstly for adults.
Very much agree!
Yes.
ANdor was made by adults with real writing skills. It showed in the slow character developments but so good to experienced as a viewer. It showed in the choice of castings. It feels like watching Orwell's 1984 in space.
In many ways it was functionally the furthest from the roots of Star Wars, but at the same time it was the only series that genuinely _respected_ both the universe and the audience. I felt something I haven't in almost any other Star Wars production, that not only was I being taken seriously by the writers, but that Star Wars was being taken seriously too. Never mind Star Wars, that's a rarity in _any_ media.
Almost everything else has been a cheap cash-in or knock-off, just there because some suit who's never watched a Star Wars movie in his life thinks that franchise hasn't been returning high enough numbers.
@@DarkFenix2k5 Yup... I felt the heaviness of of living under fear and the release of breaking out of prison literally and figuratively. I rewatched many times and every time I catch some new nuance.
You don't need to watch 1984, it's all around you.
I loved every second of every episode of Andor. Excellent writing and character development. Truly original.
I agree. Without having any Force Welders in the show along with the way, it was written, captivated the audience about oppression, love, and triumph through the human spirit. That’s why I think this show was fantastic and it just happened to be set in a galaxy far far away…….
Totally Agree. I absolutely Love the entire Andor series from the beginning. When considered as an entire story arc, it's one of the best Sci-Fi-Opera stream series ever made. Rogue One remains my 3rd most rewatched SW film, right behind IV and V. Once in awhile the stars come together for mega hits like these. Thank the Gods for 4k discs.
Same here....every morsel was just fantastic.
Not one, but 4 of the greatest monologues - Luthen's, Kino's, and Maarva's, and Nemik's. The writers for Andor are Shakespearean.
Well said!!!
Andor suffered from lack of viewers when it released. But it found an audience and a lot of love afterwards. For me it's better than the sequels, Solo, mando season 3 and all other Disney+ shows. The writing and acting on another level. But that's just me 😊
To me... Andor is peak star Wars beating literally anything else
Except maybe Clone Wars / Bad Batch / Rebels
I agree. The only star wars better than this was the OT and it gives ROTJ a run for it's money. This is my third favorite star wars project ever. So good
Couldn't agree more, Friends.
Totally agree, although suffering g from a lack of sweet jedi action, the writing and editing were just mind blowing!
@@SeArCh4DrEaMz that's kinda the point...
Andor is about realistic real life of civilians and rebels not some elite forces Jedi mumbo jumbo
Andor and Rogue One are by far the most realistic Star Wars ever made... it's made for adults and not made in a way that's rated E for everyone or anyone under 12 or 14... it's made for 16+ which basically means Andor is what Real life Star Wars is...
Other movies look sort of like uhh... a fairy tale or somethin'
You know what i mean?
While tone might be slightly different, this is the kind of Star Wars I wanted to see in my youth following Empire. Took 30+ years to get it, but was sooooo worth the wait.
Considering that Empire is the best Star Wars movie ( With A New Hope a close second.....eeeeaaaasy, people), it has the best tone to follow. Which, sadly no one ever did. So, I'm so grateful for Andor.
Same here! Ad a kid I remember being confused or annoyed when C3PO was strutting around on Endor while all the rebel troops were wearing camo & hiding in the bushes.
I always wanted a star wars that was more like those old French Resistance/ Spy films.
In my childish mind, I even justified the stormtroopers white armour as being great camo for boarding spaceships like the intro in episode 3.
I got more emotional when kino said "i cant swim" than at any point in the entire star wars trilogy
it was because of that moment, that i learnt to swim.
Which trilogy?
@FelonFitness nice correction. Any of the star wars films. Except 4 & 5
That moment is the price presented. The price of revolution. Only a few will touch freedom, and they will touch it on the shoulders of countless masses of corpses. A lot of the corpses thought they'd get to freedom. Kino already knew he was going to be in the pile, and did it anyway.
Andor is 1984, Russian Revolution (minus the Revolution's betrayal, for the moment) and children of men all together, at exactly the moment we all need to see it.
What an absolute masterpiece.
The way this was shot and written is exactly what was needed, It moved Star Wars away from the fairy tale tropes of all the previous films. If they want this franchise to evolve and grow this is the way forward.
This is the way
Andor 2 is the only Star Wars project I'm actually looking forward too
Nothing “slow” in episodes 1-3, if people pay attention. Every moment and line is important and pays off. They are among my favourite episodes.
Galen Erso would be a very welcome addition, and the scene I would most love would be one between him and the pilot defector, Bodhi Rook.
It wouldn’t be terribly dramatic if all of Cassian‘s friends were killed before they even reached their destination - as there are four years, it makes much more sense for them to die one by one for maximum dramatic impact. Plus Adria Arjona (Bix) seems to have a pretty major role, going by the leaked sizzle reel trailers. Losing her , considering she’s arguably the single most important person left in Cassian’s life at this time, shouldn’t just happen off screen.
agree there's more depth in a few minutes of Andor than the entire acolyte, pick any few minutes you want..... it's to me about as opposite from tradtional disney plus star wars fomula of have a lightsaber fight or two, have a couple of ships in space there you go thats star wars and then crap over the whole idea of Star Wars. I thought the idea of these shows was to go deeoer into the star wars universe and cover some detail of which Lucas left plenty of wiggle room to do from the original six films... it does that very well and there's nothing else that does this so well, at all reallly apart from the Mandalorian does that ok. I personally like the idea all the players are very sure about which side they are on, Cassian is the one who is not!
I agree, I was fully hooked from the first episode. It is so far ahead of everything else Disney has done with Star Wars it’s kind of mind-boggling.
I never understood the "It's slow" complaint. Every shot is riveting and has something to say. The only show that was more consistently intense was The Expanse. Everything else feels like fluff and filler by comparison.
@@dominicpinchott7432 Those who said "it's slow" really are children with an attention span of a 5 year old.
Absolutely agreed. There was nothing slow about those first three episodes. Every moment mattered, every moment told a story that makes what comes later more impact full. It likes someone looking at a beautiful skyscraper and concluding that let's just duplicate the shell and simply stack copies of it in other cities without the need for a foundation. They don't realize that the shell is nothing without the foundation....it is the foundation and all those steel beams behind the scenes that make the beauty of the building possible.
I personally found the first 3 episodes really compelling. I just think that everyone was so accustomed to every other SW show having a battle / fight sequence in every episode (often to pad the so-so writing) that when this came along, it was considered “slow” because of the lack of pew-pew and kaboom.
I watched Andor through 3 times. Love it ❤❤❤
Exactly! It gets better with each viewing and that's the true test of greatness.
I'll be watching it for my 3 time just before season 2. Already looking forward to it.
I am on my 5th time now - love it❤❤❤❤❤❤
What made this show so great was it really exposed just how corrupt, tyrannical and evil the Empire was. They put it blatantly in the viewers face. Definitely the best Star Wars series on Disney since the Mandolorian.
The crushing evil of never ending nameless, faceless bureaucracy. The downfall of every government.
Hmmm... sounds familiar, almost as if it's happening in the real world right now
Andor was one of the most gripping shows I've seen in a while. Disney really need to use its writing team as a basis for how to structure future shows
Didn't give this much of a shot after the first episode, but my brother prodded me to give it another try. Was blown away at how good it was. A star wars story for adults. Great writing, acting and directing. Just what every other Star Wars story on Disney lacked.
I suppose it's a testimony to how well the series played out, that I saw this video and thought there's already been two seasons. My brain has a hard time accepting that there was so much quality story telling, and so much that happened, in just one season of a show.
Andor was a win
The 3 act movie method for the three episode stories was a stroke of genius.
It is the story of how the Empire built the Death Star. Essentially the Star Wars Silmarillion.
If they’re going to make the second season “very different this time around” that is definitively NOT a good thing. I thought Andor was the finest Star Wars production ever made. Doing away with the infantile space ninja magic, and giving the script writing duties to a real writer, turned the show into something that felt much more like an Aasimov style space epic (like Foundation). I was hooked from the first episode. The dialogue was spectacular, the actors were first rate (Adria Arjona and Diego Luna were mind blowing). The effects were stellar and the action was thrilling (the whole sequence where they steal the Empire’s gold and escape under cover of the glowing meteor storm was absolutely exhilarating).
What a magnificent achievement. I hope it’s not TOO different.
I agree. I think what might be different is the time jump aspect since they have to cover I think 5 years. I don't see Gilroy and his crew dropping the ball. They may not be able to cover some of the details, but I think we will have to enough.
Imagine if all Star Wars was as well written as Andor
What new approach? Finally some good Star Wars content!!!
I actually loved the slow pace it started of with - gives more time to notice details & observe the world it's set in.
For anybody who played WEG’s Star Wars RPG in the 80s and 90s, “Andor” is a great adaptation of how that game felt, with rebel cells going on operations while hunted by COMPNOR and the ISB.
SWRPG is criminally underrated as a key element of what made modern SW what it is: so many concepts and elements we now take for granted were in fact invented by the creators of that game and blessed as canon by Lucas subsequently.
Yes, yes and yes! The old D6 SWRPG was amazing. I spent hours upon hours reading Galaxy Guide 10 (in particular) cover to cover!
Andor reminded me so much of the campaigns I used to run. What great times.
Nimic's monologue was great also.
I totally agree 👍
Mon’s background joining the alliance was touched upon in Rebels, as well as Saw’s strained relationship with the rest of the alliance.
That’s right, I think this will be explored further though
I'm surprised every time i hear Marva say "fight the empire!" because my brain remembers a different F word. No matter how many times i watch it.
Best Star Wars by far! I cannot wait!!
The show had some of the best writing on television and some of the most useful deconstructions of what rebelling against tyranny really requires. It transcends the genre
The first two episodes were a bit slow but the series was the best star wars project ive seen not named a new hope or empire strikes back. Amazing to do without a vader like presence.
I think it would be a disservice to say this show is by far the best show set in the Star Wars universe so far, but it's actually one of the very best productions to make it to screen in any genre in a very long time. The writing, the cast and their performances, and everything else was just quite simply top tier story telling and entertainment.
One thing that made this show so good is that, they sat back and told their story. No real concerns about placating to the fan service model. Or press an external agenda. Pretty obvious that they attempted the fan service to goop over the agenda. Doesn’t work. Go ahead and place your Easter eggs, your deep cuts, but just tell your story.
I loved that all the easter eggs were from the production crew. Need a security camera? Use the established ones from the Death Star. In a shuttle terminal? Throw some familiar names on the departures board. Things like that make it feel like a natural part of the same world without constant original trilogy quotes or mentions of the Force.
I really love Andor, the cast was incredible and had a great story to tell. Honestly, I liked how sad it was. Also, they definitely made some mistakes. Definitely one of my favorites and looking forward to season two!
IMO, easily the best live action Star Wars series. I think it's possible Luthen is either a Jedi hiding in plain sight, or at minimum a force sensitive.
Your K2SO theory is a GREAT idea.
If Kino Loy is still alive in S2 ... I'll be not just disappointed, I'll be angry.
He KNOWS ... the idea that they'd leave him alive (after what we saw in S1) and just send him back to work ... is ludicrous.
But, beyond that, it would undermine his character arc and one of the most important over arching themes of S1: knowing sacrifice
Agreed. Kino has to be dead for his story arc to stay epic. ONE WAY OUT means so much more after he says "I can't swim". So good
No. You didn’t hear his whole speech. In it, he tells the inmates to band together and help each other escape. That’s not what they were incentivized to do by the prison labor rules. The inmates were forced to compete and fight each other by the Empire in order to control them. But Kino inspired them to work together…so those inmates helped him escape over the water. And I think Kino returns as a rebel general and maybe sacrificing himself to win an important battle.
I hope he lives for the sole fact that it’s Andy Serkis
Spoiler, he is alive
Andor is the adult version of Star Wars, where The Empire is an evil bureaucracy and leaders of the rebellion are just people in the right place at the wrong time. Things like the gameification of imprisonment were pure genius. Loved it, looking forward to S02.
Just watching this brings tears to my eyes. Cannot wait for the 2nd season ❤
Andor is to me, and by far, the best Star Wars ever.
I just last night finished watching Andor for the third time. Yes it’s tone is much different than the original trilogy. Yes it’s dark. Yes there are no jedi. None of this is a problem, and it is the “deepest” of any of the other shows or movies, even Rogue One. Regardless, it shows that SW can be thought provoking, and not just a space fantasy romp. I look forward to season 2 more than I can say, as long as they carry the established story forward, and don’t pull an “acolyte”.
I am looking forward to seeing more details on how bad the empire really is.
You are my new favorite Star Wars UA-camr. I wish more were like you.
Another season? Hell yeah!
Andor is the MOST like the original trilogy. Not in mood, but in aesthetic. It’s shows the dark underbelly we knew was there in the OT.
Its so cool, it reminds me of those gritty old films abouyt the French Resistance of the Cold War like 'The Spy Who Came in from the Cold'
Andor is the best Star Wars since Empire.
The thing with Star Wars is that there's room for a variety of material. There's no reason we couldn't have "Solo" with a Guardians of the Galaxy vibe, Mandolorian with its "Kung Fu" vibe, Andor being super serious, and the saga films filling out the fantasy role. That, to me, is how you succeed with a franchise of this scale. You don't try to market everything to everyone, have niches.
It's called "Star Wars" but you only truly feel the gravity of that title watching "Rogue One", "Andor" and "The Clone Wars". Besides those series you really never experience the impact this Galactic Empire has on the average person in the galaxy.
It does not feel farthest away from the original trilogy. In fact it looks ans feels like it's _from_ the 70s -- like if Scorcese somehow directed a Star Wars TV series with 2020s technology.
Andor was such a well written show. Truly enjoyed every moment.
Andor should be the future for Star Wars. It is time to have awesome writing and acting. Leave the childishness behind.
Wish they did one more series so it didn’t do lots of jumps
Can’t wait for this. Without a doubt the best Star Wars series
Andor was total Star Wars. Just from a different perspective. It really showed just how tyrannical the Empire was, from their intolerance for small skirmishes on backwoods planets to the human slave labor on Narkina 5. This would have been around the same time the loose rebel cells started to get more organized, with Mon Mothma help fund the operation from inside the Empire. Of course in Rebels she obviously catches too much heat and has to be rescued and taken to Yavin.
Can't wait for S2. Andor and Rogue One are the only good Star Wars things that Disney made, imo. And they're perfect.
Best Star Wars since the original 3 and The Mandalorian. Andor at times feels real!
"up there with the mandelorian"?!? Surely fan bait - no other star wars series can lace andor's boots
Andor is about the struggle, it's about tyranny and rebellion. It shows the hard truths and fights. Characters die, the danger feels real.
So glad it’s ending. They won’t squeeze the life out of this series or character
Just finished watching Andor a 2nd time. It’s a masterpiece.
Andor hands down best star wars spin off. Glad to hear about a second season.
Loved it ! so ready for season two.
There are millions of stories that can be told in this setting that don't involve space wizards with angry glow sticks.
Andor is the best of what the Disney Star Wars era has had to offer. The rest has largely been a flaming dumpster fire approximately the size of Manhattan.
More like the size of Texas 🤔😏
I can't wait for Andor season 2. I haven't been this excited since RotJ release
I absolutely can’t wait for this series !
The Disney executives should be taking note of Andor's success. Hire good scriptwriters who want to build quality character development and arcs. Give the production breathing space to grow. Stop writing from ideology and start putting the fans first. Fans if you enjoy the show get in behind it and let them know they are on the right track.
Literally the best Star Wars.
Andor wasn't given the marketing it deserved. Disney has a track record if it even goes as far back as their old hand drawn animations like treasure planet for example.
Praying it doesn't go the same way as Mando, when the higher ups find out a SW property they had little to do with is great and go a bugger it up... hoping I'm wrong as I loved the first season
Andor also evokes to me the darker dystopian direction 1970s SF was going before Star Wars came along. Stuff like Blake's 7, Logan's Run, Silent Running, Farenheit 451 or even THX 1138. I feel like in some ways it's the alternate path Star Wars could have taken at the time of its creation, if it continued down that cynical but cautionary path.
The beginning of S1 only “felt slow” and “required patience” for numbskulls who basically consider themselves beneficiaries of the McDonaldsization of entertainment and storytelling in the US. Anyone who has watched and loved The Wire (for example) did not feel the need to “speed things up” - they were simply engrossed in a complex and breathtaking story, wondering where it would take them, and issuing no complaints.
Don’t try to subtract points from Andor because it isn’t the storytelling equivalent of a f***ing happy meal. Thanks!
Trusting Tony to do this project was a stretch even for Kathleen Kennedy, however it has opened the door to do more world building, and add other characters who by their own merits helped form the alliance. Little is known of the formation of the separatists, the Geonosians, how Czerka corp's influence helped emperor Palpatine and the First Order, and what about the other generals of the rebel alliance, or how did the Mon Calamari get involved? Where was the war waged that caused the escape of Cal Kestus? Where was Ahsoka Tano when Anakin became Vader? there are truly so many areas for exploration and expansion for stories and games, I'm especially interested in how the Outlaws story came to being!
I hope its another well told story.
Andor is fine art.
11:18 I love the Mandalorian, and I agree.
I want a Luthen Rael origin story with Luthen played by Alexander Skarsgård.
The best because it was a different and new perspective done well.
I saw the first Star Wars on the first day of release - 5 times by hiding under the seats between shows. Andor, which I have also watched more than once, without enduring sticky floors, is the best Star Wars since that day in May 1977. Cant's wait for April (?) 2025!
Andor is the star wars we deserve
I want to see a confrontation between Mon Mothma and Palpatine where she dispenses with formalities and fake obsequiousness and finally tells him to his face what a foll she's been all these years not to realize and truly see him for the monster he's always been.
Being Palatine he takes it stride but gives and ominous warning to her as she leaves an while his words don't say much, Mon can tell her time is up, Palaptine has finally lost his patience with her, and she needs to get the hell out of dodge NOW before Palapatine sends the ISB (perhaps led by Dedra herself) after her.
They better not F this up. The first was a GD masterpiece.
By far the best Star Wars period when paired with Rogue One. -- PERIOD!!!
Andor was the most politically complex of the Star Wars canon. The soulless bureaucracy - with it's intrinsic office politics - that enabled the empire was made explicit.
However evil they were, the Emperor and Darth Vader couldn't have run things on their own without a tame bureaucracy and a military.
And not everyone was a Jedi knight or a member of the planetary aristocracy. The downtrodden working class and criminal underclass at the empire's margins was well represented too.
I too thought that B2 EMO would be killed and somehow downloaded into the imperial droid to become K2, but was berated online by SW fans for the idea.
They couldn't agree with it or like the idea. I mean B2 was a droid that said he needed more power to lie, and i think K2 is a droid with no tact and is brutally honest about everything, instead of sparing your feelings he comes straight out with an honest POV of the situation.
My thought too
I hope Season 2 will be as good as Seasons 1.
Andor is Star Wars for adults
Andor is the most 70s star wars since 1980
Furthest from the Original Trilogy??? It's literally the prequel to the Original Trilogy! It has the lived in universe feel, it sets up A New Hope, and even makes that title make sense. You probably mean the furthest from the Prequel Trilogy.
Maybe the viewership of season 2 will prove to Disney exactly what the fans want to see.
Looking forward to Ben Mendelsohn returning. He was one of the best villains.
You guys seems to forget one thing. On episode 1, Andor was looking for his sister. Never gets mention again after that episode.
My guess, he'll find her in season 2, only to have her killed by the Empire or the ISB. That's when he truly "lost everything".
Best Star Wars content after the OT and Rogue One.
No Jedi, no lightsabers... yet its the best Star Wars since the original trilogy. It has been the victim of low viewership by no fault of its own (basically Disney has been shoveling crap for so long that people checked out and missed out on this gem). But considering the word of mouth and high praise from reviewers, everyone is hoping season two will be a different story.
Some good news… a bit nervous about the Disney meddling
It would be great to see Tarkin.
I justhope it is as good as the first one, yes no sweet jeudi action but the first season was m8nd blowing g and such high quality
Best thing done since obi one loved the first season hope the second one is as good the acolyte was terrible but andor was absolutely fantastic
This needs to be aired before Disney Star Wars is put out of its misery.
I disagree that its the furthest from the original trilogy. I think visually it feels closer than anything before. It has the grit, realism, and desperation of the first trilogy without allowing the "force" to swoop in and be the hero. Each action of rebellion feels personal & impactful character development as the characters in the OG trilogy where the sequel trilogy makes those brakes just convenient plot elements.
Yes, it doesn't have lightsabers or jedi. But if you took everything else of the OG trilogy, it feels a lot like this show.
I do think the next season has some interesting challenges. First, the rise of the rebellion and second, Cassian's transformation from his current character to his character in Rogue One.
Oh boy!
Dude is a Sith . The shop owner...