They are FIM socialist tracks today. I am not kidding, not a joke! They are designed/approved by the FIM, (and our all similar MX tracks too. No clay tracks anymore baby, and "blue groove" does not exist even if the media says it does), to keep everybody the same speed as much as possible. That is the FIM function for rhythm sections in SX, as a "in your face" example. But we think it is racing.
@@EarthSurferUSA yep, I rode the amateur race the day after the 1992 Tampa supercross and walking the track, there were 6-7 foot high berms and at about 5 inches from the top there was about a 7 inch wide layer of rubber laid down from the night before. the whoops were no where near symmetrical.
The ability to practice free enterprise let us do this. communist nations had nothing to do with any industry that free people built. Mickey would not have been able to help create SX if he were not free to do so here in the USA.
# 88. Team Kawasaki. Michael Craig Team Kawasaki. Tyson vohland Team Yamahas jeff emig. . The 125 class was exciting. Good racing. Thank you for sharing this. Love these old school races
???? There were twice as many racers to beat. Plus, the tracks were more technical, the 2-strokes took more talent, the tracks were different each week, nobody had them wired,--and the USA riders were the best in the world for the last 11 years at this point. They had more talent, (high speed only talent today), and they had many more people to beat to become pro. If it is harder today, that is because everybody has the tracks wired, and you are not allowed to be great. Eli did have a great 2022 though. My what a great new spirit will do. Not gonna happen again for anybody for a while.
With YT in 20023 and a bit earlier,----I am amazed at how many broadcast races of this and earlier era we missed in rural Michigan. I thought I had seen them all by 1995.
I was there. Started buying my own bikes in Rural Michigan at the age of 12 in 1976, (1976 Kawasaki KD125, looked like a KX, but not.), for $800.00, (saved for 2 years). The bikes getting better and better every year until 1986 (pretty much), was like a manufactures race in itself. That is the excitement in more free enterprise competition, and every industry started that way, many competing. The Land of Opportunity. Now back to MX, after 20 years off, I bought a 2019 YZ250 2-stroke. My last bike that I finished woods riding in, (after MX), was a 97 KX250. Now my YZ today is a pretty refined bike, it is de-tuned engine wise, (slowest stock 250cc MX bike I ever had. I can fix that), and made to try to race MX against 4-strokes, (which ain't happening.). My bike is basically the 2006 YZ250, but with stronger brakes that I will never use, (the 4-stroke MX track thing), and other then weight (10lbs), it is no better than my 97 KX250,---which is the power I am trying to get out of this over bored 125, (the way it runs). The 4-stroke is just a different animal that was forced on the industry by the EPA. Both that and the 1986 production rule about tripled the cost to us. A lot easier getting into this sport in 1976. If I were a kid in my same situation today,---no way.
By the way, bike prices went up about 50% from 1975 to 1985 (a year before the FIM/AMA production rule for the USA only). Before that rule, the 85 bike was about the same 2-stroke at the 250 2-stroke today. The up-side-down forks were already catching on, and hydraulic disk brakes were in production as with single shock linkage, water cooling, more proper frame geometry for long 12 in MX suspension, exhaust power valves, refined shifting, brakes, clutch, power delivery, weight distribution.------all before the 1986 production rule for the cost of in 1985, about $1,600. That is only for 10 years, an average of $40 a year increase from 6" of air cooled, drum brake 6" travel road race frames. Look what the 2 interventions did to our once great industry, where anybody could compete, and it was affordable for a good sized market share. Intervention. It costs us dearly.
To be more clear, the 2 interventions I speak of that jacked up the price of a bike, the result being a catastrophic reduction in participating market, (the sport with 40% less people in the nation in 1976, compared to today, was 10 times the market at least, of what it is today. That is a "result" and should not be ignored.), are the FIM (not AMA) production rule of 1986, stopping factory bike development for the USA only, and the 4-stroke engine forced on the industry by the EPA. If that type of policy is not recognized and rejected, the sport could either be dissolved, or take over Polo. There is no "citizen grass roots", unless your parents can afford it. Bummer for you, from a 1970's kid who bought his own brand new bikes making $1.00/hr part time,---and nobody could stop me. :)
Still, almost nobody saw him coming in 93 to dominate for at least 4 years in the premier 250 class. But after 2 wins, he knew it. Then they would all go to "the river" and party. My bet is, MC was buying the beer. :)
R.I.P Marty
RJ's last US Supercross race.....😥
Is that right? I am going to pay attention to it more now, even though I lived it 32 years ago. I forgot. :) Thanks.
I miss the tracks they had back then. they are so cookie cutter now
Like the whoop section 😂 looked amazing nowadays soft straight whoops 😬😳 😂
They are FIM socialist tracks today. I am not kidding, not a joke! They are designed/approved by the FIM, (and our all similar MX tracks too. No clay tracks anymore baby, and "blue groove" does not exist even if the media says it does), to keep everybody the same speed as much as possible. That is the FIM function for rhythm sections in SX, as a "in your face" example.
But we think it is racing.
@@EarthSurferUSA yep, I rode the amateur race the day after the 1992 Tampa supercross and walking the track, there were 6-7 foot high berms and at about 5 inches from the top there was about a 7 inch wide layer of rubber laid down from the night before. the whoops were no where near symmetrical.
Mickey Thomson entertainment, nice job and all those who made it possible in 1991 Supercross series and championship possible.
We thank yous...
The ability to practice free enterprise let us do this. communist nations had nothing to do with any industry that free people built. Mickey would not have been able to help create SX if he were not free to do so here in the USA.
So they (with the dark side, Mike Goodwin the actual creator of SX.), did it.
# 88. Team Kawasaki. Michael Craig
Team Kawasaki. Tyson vohland
Team Yamahas jeff emig. . The 125 class was exciting. Good racing. Thank you for sharing this. Love these old school races
Way easier to be a pro back then
???? There were twice as many racers to beat. Plus, the tracks were more technical, the 2-strokes took more talent, the tracks were different each week, nobody had them wired,--and the USA riders were the best in the world for the last 11 years at this point. They had more talent, (high speed only talent today), and they had many more people to beat to become pro. If it is harder today, that is because everybody has the tracks wired, and you are not allowed to be great. Eli did have a great 2022 though. My what a great new spirit will do. Not gonna happen again for anybody for a while.
@@EarthSurferUSA please Jeremy raised the bar, then Ricky raised the bar, then bubba raised the bar, now everyones lap times are super close.
With YT in 20023 and a bit earlier,----I am amazed at how many broadcast races of this and earlier era we missed in rural Michigan. I thought I had seen them all by 1995.
2023
Love Wendy in this!
The lipstick cam the had actually looked better than a gopro as far as depth and perception like the rider sees
Yea, really close. Best camera simulation of the riders eyes I think I have ever seen.
Difference between 1975 and 1991 is insane when it comes to motocross just like they shown here. Meanwhile between 1991 and 2006 not as big.
I was there. Started buying my own bikes in Rural Michigan at the age of 12 in 1976, (1976 Kawasaki KD125, looked like a KX, but not.), for $800.00, (saved for 2 years). The bikes getting better and better every year until 1986 (pretty much), was like a manufactures race in itself. That is the excitement in more free enterprise competition, and every industry started that way, many competing. The Land of Opportunity. Now back to MX, after 20 years off, I bought a 2019 YZ250 2-stroke. My last bike that I finished woods riding in, (after MX), was a 97 KX250. Now my YZ today is a pretty refined bike, it is de-tuned engine wise, (slowest stock 250cc MX bike I ever had. I can fix that), and made to try to race MX against 4-strokes, (which ain't happening.).
My bike is basically the 2006 YZ250, but with stronger brakes that I will never use, (the 4-stroke MX track thing), and other then weight (10lbs), it is no better than my 97 KX250,---which is the power I am trying to get out of this over bored 125, (the way it runs).
The 4-stroke is just a different animal that was forced on the industry by the EPA. Both that and the 1986 production rule about tripled the cost to us. A lot easier getting into this sport in 1976. If I were a kid in my same situation today,---no way.
By the way, bike prices went up about 50% from 1975 to 1985 (a year before the FIM/AMA production rule for the USA only). Before that rule, the 85 bike was about the same 2-stroke at the 250 2-stroke today. The up-side-down forks were already catching on, and hydraulic disk brakes were in production as with single shock linkage, water cooling, more proper frame geometry for long 12 in MX suspension, exhaust power valves, refined shifting, brakes, clutch, power delivery, weight distribution.------all before the 1986 production rule for the cost of in 1985, about $1,600. That is only for 10 years, an average of $40 a year increase from 6" of air cooled, drum brake 6" travel road race frames.
Look what the 2 interventions did to our once great industry, where anybody could compete, and it was affordable for a good sized market share. Intervention. It costs us dearly.
To be more clear, the 2 interventions I speak of that jacked up the price of a bike, the result being a catastrophic reduction in participating market, (the sport with 40% less people in the nation in 1976, compared to today, was 10 times the market at least, of what it is today. That is a "result" and should not be ignored.), are the FIM (not AMA) production rule of 1986, stopping factory bike development for the USA only, and the 4-stroke engine forced on the industry by the EPA. If that type of policy is not recognized and rejected, the sport could either be dissolved, or take over Polo. There is no "citizen grass roots", unless your parents can afford it. Bummer for you, from a 1970's kid who bought his own brand new bikes making $1.00/hr part time,---and nobody could stop me. :)
McGrath just dominated!
Still, almost nobody saw him coming in 93 to dominate for at least 4 years in the premier 250 class. But after 2 wins, he knew it.
Then they would all go to "the river" and party. My bet is, MC was buying the beer. :)