Is Persona 5 Royal Any Good Though?

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @TheKisekiNut
    @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +6

    Another JRPG under the belt, and this time we’re delving in to Persona 5 Royal!
    I feel it's important to note that this is NOT a comparison between Vanilla P5 and P5R, this is a first time experience for someone new to the series.
    Also please note that there are MINOR SPOILERS confined to the first few hours of the game, and there is one more around 9 minutes into the video which will be spoiler marked with a time skip if you want to avoid it.
    Also, see if you can spot the misspelling while watching. Hope you enjoy it! :)

    • @mrannon
      @mrannon 4 роки тому

      I think you said you didn't play Royal, but they added the feature that in Momentos if you where higher level then the Mob you could just run them over to get the EXP, Gold and Items. No longer having to fight each low level mob. Momentos was great for leveling up your char and persona fast.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому

      @@mrannon Oh yeah for sure. I still hated it though. Compared to the other Palaces it felt lazy in design. Hold the dash button till you get to the next platform.

  • @Kenko_4
    @Kenko_4 4 роки тому +6

    It was refreshing to hear thoughts from the perspective of a new persona player. I agree with you on most points and I hope you’re able to go back and try 4 Golden as it’s my favorite persona game. I’m a bit bummed you didn’t get to experience the extra Royal content during your playthrough! Happy to hear that you enjoyed your time with persona 5!

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +3

      It's pretty insane that Golden is now on Steam. If I had the choice, all games I play would be on PC personally. I would have given P5R a second playthrough to get to the added content, but there's just too much on the list to dedicate another 100 hours. I watched it on YT though, insane how much high quality content they added.

  • @justsomeemokidfrompersona3825
    @justsomeemokidfrompersona3825 4 роки тому +10

    "Futaba is the best" finally someone who is cultured

    • @Eltron92
      @Eltron92 4 роки тому

      Just opened the video to see this so I know it will be good. Futaba will never not be best girl. I went with makoto in royal due to hype but i wasnt about it. I just wanted to hang with futaba, or maybe with the new girl (forgot name, avoiding spoilers)

  • @NovaSniper12
    @NovaSniper12 4 роки тому +3

    My phantom thieves edition is still sealed lol I just finished cold steel 3 with 100 percent and just started ys memories of celceta, I’ll eventually get to p5.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому

      That edition of the game looked sick! Unfortunately I try to confine myself to buying L.E's only for Trails or I'd most likely go broke. I at least got the steel case though!

    • @NovaSniper12
      @NovaSniper12 4 роки тому

      The Kiseki Nut the steel cases are the best thing about the collector editions (except for plushies or figurines), I can’t wait for cold steel 4 steel case.

    • @benjaminbaer5485
      @benjaminbaer5485 4 роки тому

      Its funny how people are playing the clones like Tokyo Xanadu and Cold Steel before the original.

  • @PantsaBear
    @PantsaBear 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, was really well-organized and informative/entertaining! I kinda disagree about the chracters though (except Mishima, I thought he was gonna go full bad guy too!). I feel like theyre are all likable pretty much, but theyre all victim to over the top cartoon characters that have very little depth too them, rely on Joker to stroke the power fantasy thing, or the pacing of their stories is very meh because of the confidant system needing 10 ranks and the personality thresholds needed to advance certain story lines (at least you can see how much itll take to level up your, for example, charisma this time around since that wasnt in the base game).
    Im also not really sure what the game is trying to say with some of it's themes it touches on, if its really trying at all sometimes. Like Ann's whole arc flip flops between being one of female empowerment, to pressuring her to trick Yusuke with her looks, to her needing Joker to fix her modeling career dilemma since she uses her looks as a crutch for her self esteem and needs his help to maintain that confidance. Most female arcs in the game are like this, where it feels like the primary goal was to put them in situations to make them cute and vulnerable so Joker could romance them in 10 ranks, rather than making them feel like actual human beings that have lessons to be learned from their dispositions. Futaba is a favorite because she gets an entire palace to understand her as a person and gets a fairly realistic confidant arc with a cool hobby lol. Haru had potential to be more deleloped with her dad's palace being a focal point, and although she gets kinda rushed because the plot needs to move on and her confidant comes late in game, Id argue she's one of the most believable characters in the whole game because of the maturity in her story. Most women's arcs in Persona 5 play out like Makoto though, who has sad moments in her confidant arc, but all the events are rushed, personality trait gated, and dont mesh well together so the only lasting feeling for the player is just sympathy for her sad situation, and you can romance her while shes vulnerable and youre giving her a shoulder to cry on lmao.
    I could keep going, but yeah idk something about so many characters feeling like male romance/power fantasies needing to be saved over mature people really bothered me in my complete game playthrough, and its like a pretty sizable part of the characterization in a 100 hour game that kind of undercuts the main overarching theme of the main story. Its the same thing hurting the Cold Steel series for me with its shallow harem romances. I have other problems with the game, mainly concerning the convenient plot device that is mementos, but I think that superficiality of the women's stories in Persona 5 is what really stops me from saying this game has even a good story worth its long run time. The english translation of some dialogue didnt help that issue either I dont think. Loved the gameplay, music, style, voice acting, concept, and many other things though, so its a good turn your brain off and have fun game

  • @Eltron92
    @Eltron92 4 роки тому

    If anyone is interested in music in the genre of the soundtrack, this genre is typically called acid-jazz and is popularly exemplified by Jamiroquai. For those who want another frame of reference, the song that plays when Napolean Dynamite dances is by Jamiroquai.

  • @ReanXAlisa
    @ReanXAlisa 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting point on boss fights, Megami Tensei as a whole is more DPS related so having gimmicks is a nice mix up. As for the Okumura fight, it's really not as bad as people make it out to be. Those green enemies are weak to Psio and Eiga so you can pass the baton pass around with Curse items to increase the damage alongside Joker's Persona abilities to have either the AOE damage up by 50% or Weaknesses damage up by X amount you can play that boss pretty easily. I feel people tend to just see it as cheap when it's not realy

  • @LadyVirgilia
    @LadyVirgilia 4 роки тому +3

    Lmao the beginning! Was that a tie around your head? 😂 Take Over is also definitely a banger. I catch myself humming it too.
    Yes! I love how the game mechanics sell the themes in the Persona games! Social links *ahem* Confidants, are tied to the characters strength, just like how a support system is so important irl.
    Glad to hear you enjoyed your first foray into the Persona series! It's really nice to hear a newcomer's perspective! And so.....when is P4G happening now that it's on steam? 😂

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +2

      Damn it Lady, I was hoping you would notice the ghastly Peter Pan shirt I had to dig out for the skit! It was though. :)
      Awesome game, too bad I can't dedicate time to a second play through for now. I think we both know why with what's coming out.
      P4G is on the list though! Took me by surprise to be honest, didn't expect to see any Persona game on PC for the foreseeable future, so that makes everything a lot more convenient!
      Looking forward to seeing what you have planned for the rest of 2020! :)

    • @LadyVirgilia
      @LadyVirgilia 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheKisekiNut How did I not notice the Peter Pan shirt?! LOL
      I totally gotcha on being strapped for time for the rest of the year. Trails fo' lyfe!!!
      If you ever get a chance next year to do a replay of P5R though, Akechi, Maruki, and Kasumi's full confidants are so worth it :)
      P4G may be my least favorite of the 3 newer Persona games, but that's not saying much, since P4G is still one of the best experiences in gaming I ever had. I hope it's the same for you when you eventually get around to it! (and who knows, there may be more Atlus games ported to the PC by that time as well)
      Thanks TKN! I look forward to all your new content as well~

  • @tristandean7915
    @tristandean7915 4 роки тому +2

    “The worst boss fight I have ever had misfortune of playing” without evening saying it’s name I know which your talking

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +1

      I don't say it lightly either, it's awful!

    • @Miyakolover
      @Miyakolover 4 роки тому +2

      @@TheKisekiNut I bet it's Okumura's boss fight.
      While I feel it was pretty easy to get to him this time around in Royal in comparison to the original...I felt the boss fight was very hard...even harder than the original.

  • @bobbit_the_hobbit
    @bobbit_the_hobbit 4 роки тому

    Great Vid! When P5 originally came out, I didn't have a PS4 at the time, so I ended up watching a lets play instead since I had no intention of getting a PS4. Now that I have one, I might wait for P5R to go on sale since while that game is very well made, some of the magic is lost since I know the whole plot.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching mate! When I initially moved out to Japan, my next door neighbour had the limited edition of the original. Never saw him play it, but I knew he was looking forward to it, so it peaked my interest. With the enhanced version, seemed like the perfect time to give it a go!

    • @darknesswave100
      @darknesswave100 4 роки тому

      Oh you may think you know the whole plot but they added a lot to the original story in royal and the third semester. Which is one of the best parts of the whole game imo. I'd definitely recommend getting royal when you can

  • @null-rj7fe
    @null-rj7fe 4 роки тому +1

    7:46 top left. Nice

  • @dtucker646
    @dtucker646 4 роки тому +2

    Was the worst boss fight from the fifth palace? If yes I completely agree.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +2

      Bang on. Don't regret saying it either, it was shocking, a real shame considering everything else near on was top quality.

  • @DarkPhoenix89
    @DarkPhoenix89 4 роки тому +1

    We gotta steal cognitive Kiseki Nut's heart bois or he's going to eat all those delicious pancakes.
    I understand your frustration with the first palace. It can be a shit show on higher difficulties, but I've found that merciless is actually easier than hard because of that insane crit damage bonus. I did a trial of both palaces, one run on hard (level 10) and the other on merciless (level 7). I beat the palace and boss faster on merciless, despite being 3 levels lower. xD
    Anyhow, great job with the video. I'm glad you enjoyed this epic game.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching DP! It wasn't actually the first palace, it was quite a bit later on. I actually enjoyed the first 3 bosses, the 4th one felt a bit off for me, but it was the 5th that drove me insane. I've never seen something so player hostile, especially with a fight that was redone!

  • @darknesswave100
    @darknesswave100 4 роки тому

    Royal is way better than the regular game for me. Just some of the gameplay mechanics and some other stuff they added just adds to the experience. Plus the third semester villian/antagonist is just better than the end boss in the original. I can't go back to the vanilla game now. Glad you enjoyed it though. I'd recommend 4 Golden now that you've gotten your first taste of what a persona game is all about. Definitely a series that takes some getting used to. My first game was 3 and I was so lost it was embarrassing lol. Once you see what each game has to offer they get even better. Great series but trails will always have my heart first and foremost. Great video too. Always nice to see an outsiders perspective jumping in

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому

      I'm just like you in that Trails will always be my main love, but I do look delving in to other series. It gives me a more rounded experience of what my own opinion of 'good' and 'bad' is in this genre. I fully intend to play P4G now that it's on Steam, but it's quite far down the list in terms of what I'm playing in the future. There's just far too much to get in to at the moment!

  • @ThatGuyWhoComments1
    @ThatGuyWhoComments1 4 роки тому +1

    Ofc it is. Huge improvement from the base game.

  • @wykellbrown6360
    @wykellbrown6360 4 роки тому +2

    Persona is just a spin-off to a much bigger even better series shin Megami tensei if you have a PS2 or PS3 you should play Nocturne or smt4 with a DS or better yet you should play the Persona 2 do ology only Persona games I actually like

  • @dragonturtleab.3036
    @dragonturtleab.3036 3 роки тому

    Nice review also about the boss well he was fine I think. I had some bullcrap experiences in SMT that were worse than that but that doesn't make it better. I'm also interested if you gonna play any other persona games or even start to play SMT games and review them.

  • @ReanXAlisa
    @ReanXAlisa 4 роки тому +2

    Honestly it's so cool going from this game to Cold Steel because you get Cassandra as Fie from Morgana, Ericka as Vita from Futaba, Robbie as Lloyd from Akechi 😳 and FREAKING MAX AS MCBURN FROM RYUJI LIKE OH MY GOD

  • @xalin73
    @xalin73 4 роки тому +2

    Futaba is the best huh. Must be that Vita Clotilde voice of Erica Lindbeck :P

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +2

      For real?! Wow, that's quite a change going from the alluring voice of Vita to a love-able dork.

    • @xalin73
      @xalin73 4 роки тому

      @@TheKisekiNut Yep she is in tons of anime and games. She also did Jesse from the final fantasy 7 remake.

  • @SuiteLifeofDioBrando
    @SuiteLifeofDioBrando 4 роки тому +1

    I plan to get P5R when it goes for $20.

  • @Moffattt
    @Moffattt 4 роки тому

    havent even watched the video but as someone who played both normal persona 5 and persona 5 royal i can say for certain. yes, yes it fucking is.
    also its tragic you missed the new content as that is the BEST part of royal, the new ending is SOOOOO good

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому

      I was gutted to be honest. I was saving as I went, so I didn't have a previous save file I could use to back it up. I have to agree though, the extra content is insane from what I watched, just wished I could have experienced it first hand. I intend to give it a second run in the future though, but I've got waaaaay to many other games to play at the moment, not to mention replaying the Cold Steel games.

    • @Moffattt
      @Moffattt 4 роки тому

      @@TheKisekiNut also can i assume the boss you had problems with was okumura? either that or madarame, both of them were worse than their OG state. i know that i had a really hard time winning against okumura, resorted to dlc personas to. they made the boss even more bs than it already was. also futaba best character and mishima is the most boring and the most basic human being in the game, i had more fun talking to npc´s without names than i had with mishima

  • @solareflare47
    @solareflare47 4 роки тому

    Which boss fight in specific was the one that gave you so much trouble?

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +1

      Rhymes with Shockamura.

    • @solareflare47
      @solareflare47 4 роки тому

      The Kiseki Nut O BRUHHH SAME. I HATED THAT BOSS WITH A PASSION. Especially since it had a time limit on it too. Honestly I played the game blind on
      Hard too and it was the only boss that gave me trouble. I still think CS1 FB still takes the cake for most annoying boss tho for me haha

  • @antonynanh4164
    @antonynanh4164 4 роки тому

    1:00 so that's your true self in real life LOL

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +1

      It can't be stopped mate!

    • @antonynanh4164
      @antonynanh4164 4 роки тому

      @@TheKisekiNut He'll (the shadow) never see it coming after saying b**ch 🤣

  • @EdgyEmoLoliconBoy
    @EdgyEmoLoliconBoy 4 роки тому +1

    I finished the original p5....
    Is it worth it to play the royal?

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому

      I don't have the original P5 as a reference, but I can say that P5R is very polished, a real sleek experience. Also, they added like 30 hours + of content in Royal, so you're basically getting an expansion if you buy the enhanced version.

  • @kugansivasakthy2091
    @kugansivasakthy2091 4 роки тому

    Glad you enjoyed the game I loved P5 Royal as well 🙏

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +1

      People praise this game for a reason. I can see it!

  • @Eltron92
    @Eltron92 4 роки тому +2

    "Times where the story is weaker" i.e........ chapter 5. All of chapter 5. Fuck chapter 5 and especially its boss in royal. All my homies hate chapter 5.
    Just kidding i dont have homies into p5. But if I did they would hate chapter 5.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +2

      I have to agree man. I didn't mind the story elements even in the weaker moments, even the palace was OK to me. But the boss can shove it!

  • @Eltron92
    @Eltron92 4 роки тому

    Awww yeah. That bad boss. I hate that boss. I played vanilla and let me reinforce the fact that that boss was a boring cherry on top of the worst palace. When I played royal, I was infuriated with the changes they made. That mechanic is so damn stupid. As you said, the only option I had was to increase the difficulty because that last bit before the end was near impossible. Absolute trash. A stain on an otherwise perfect experience.
    Trails is still way better tho. BUT I have to thank p5 for introducing me to trails after I finished and wanted more so kudos to it for that.

  • @djanime2016
    @djanime2016 4 роки тому

    Ryuji is awesome. I love the english cast as well. I am looking forward to streaming persona 5 royal in the near future . Great video as always. I need to step up my game when it comes to videos.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому +1

      I look forward to seeing your content Deej! And I'd like to believe you'll be enjoying P5R when you finally get around to it.

    • @djanime2016
      @djanime2016 4 роки тому

      @@TheKisekiNut thanks . i appreciate it. i want to do some cold steel content on my you tube.

  • @nintendoswitchonlineisabad9491
    @nintendoswitchonlineisabad9491 3 роки тому

    Just my opinion of course but: Fantastic soundtrack, solid voice acting across the board, engrossing gameplay, very likeable characters, addictive persona fusion system.
    The events leading up to palace 5 are piss weak and really cringe worthy though.

  • @AlkonKomm
    @AlkonKomm 4 роки тому

    the peak of turn based combat? really? I think this is the absolute best example of a game with a very simplified, flashy combat system that is fun at first but gets boring incredibly fast. you literally just spam skills that hit their weakness and there is zero nuance to it. the boss battles are incredible boring and tedious, wich you did mention. If you have played any of the other atlus SMT games, for example the devil survivor series on 3DS, you'll quickly realize how persona has a dumbed down, inferior version of the SMT combat system
    I still like persona better, but combat is definitely not one of its high points if you ask me

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому

      For me it was brilliant! I can definitely see your point, you're basically working to a set formula most of the time, but I was a big fan of the choices P5R gave to the player as to how they wanted to build their persona arsenal, and the various options it gave in combat. It always felt fresh to me from hour 1 to hour 95, and I think the confidants added to that. I've heard great things about SMT as well, and you're not the first person to recommend it to me, so I'll have to check it out in the future.

  • @justsomeemokidfrompersona3825
    @justsomeemokidfrompersona3825 4 роки тому +1

    Lul if you hate mementos i can imagine your reation to tartarus on p3

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 роки тому

      I've heard mixed opinions about P3. I'll have to play P4G first before considering giving it a go though.

    • @justsomeemokidfrompersona3825
      @justsomeemokidfrompersona3825 4 роки тому

      @@TheKisekiNut i'll envy your 1st playthrough, have fun!

    • @Azrael_Terminus
      @Azrael_Terminus 4 роки тому

      @@TheKisekiNut Gameplay is rough around the edges, but it has the best thematic narrative. P5 and P4 borrow from it, but don't reach the same heights. P2 is even more around the edges, but its really, really good.

  • @darkecofreak23
    @darkecofreak23 4 роки тому

    You mean BROjiro

  • @Heccct
    @Heccct 4 роки тому

    no

  • @NazariyArkride
    @NazariyArkride 3 роки тому

    I guess I am the only one who didn't likef it at all. After FE3H, this is the worst JRPG I've ever played. No hate though, I don't want to trigger any angry fans.