It'll never happen - Mike Brewer on the 2030 petrol and diesel car ban delay
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2023
- Wheeler Dealer star and Used Car Awards host Mike Brewer has said he thinks the petrol and diesel car ban, which has been delayed until 2035 this week, will never happen. In this chat with Car Dealer he talks about the government's decision to change the date and how he struggles to use his own electric car.
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Mike Brewer is talking so much common sense! The bloody politicians in this country need to listen to him! 👍🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧
Shame Quentin Wilson got bought out, he used to be ok about ICE cars.
That’s the problem the politicians don’t have any background in the field that they are assigned too!
All spot on except for his apparent approval of how covid was handled!
it all boils down too the same scenario. too many people in this country... with cars.
well said...... DR. diesel, it isn't going anywhere soon. 🤔 it moves the world, a very efficient engine indeed. could the world completely replace it.... 🤔 even by 2035.i don't think so. 🤔
As a house builder in the North East we are already being told that we are going to be limited on the amount of home chargers we are going to be allowed to install because of the ageing infrastructure. In reality a mix of vehicles is the best solution for a market where people have different requirements. If they make EVs that are at the right price and right performance they will sell. Let the market decide.
Future will be nuclear, ethanol (or better) and natural gas.
They can also take that rapeseed crap out of our food and use in lorries.
5 billion years of nuclear fuel in ground (earth is a fission reactor).
Natural gas is made within earth and endless. Like on Titan, Saturn moon.
Anyone who can afford to buy a new car will soon be able to afford a new EV. Tesla’s next generation vehicle will probably cost under £20k and will be faster, safer, cheaper to “fuel”, almost free to service and have massively better tech than the ICE equivalents…only idiots will choose ICE cars a few years from now as they will be demonstrably inferior in every respect!
Let the market decide? This sounds far too much like 'evil capitalism' for our socialist government.
Totally agree, where I live I spoke with UK Power Networks about installing electrical chargers in a 1980s housing development of 80 flats and houses with communal garage area and parking.
They told me the electric lines to the estate (overground) could only allow for 2 x 7.5kw chargers (slow chargers) as they were almost maxed out. To upgrade for higher power we would have to pay over £100k for higher capacity lines to be installed (just the lines), and that is not taking into account the capacity availability further up the lines and the limits of the substations etc. and even that might only allow a handful of slow chargers let alone any supercharger options.
This is one private housing estate on the edge of London, so just think of the millions of other similar sites and houses that would need similar upgrades all over the UK, just to feed basic level chargers. It amazes me how the establishment is not even thinking about the basic supply issue.
Very good look on this problem.
It’s not about going green, it’s about going without…
Totally true, the west has to go green to compensate for China and India pumping out millions of tons of carbon producing EV's for us to go green. Is it me?
Please explain. I can't see how changing the fuel in a car makes you go without?
I've got an EV and I can assure you, I am not "going without". It's fantastic.
@@geoffhaylock6848on world economic forum... they say you'll own nothing n be happy. Big agenda for world government tyranny. They tell us on that website. They want us without cars.
There is far more to this big agenda than one may think.
@@Nick_Smith1970 did it cost you £12000, didnt think so, dont worry pay per mile is coming see how fantastic it is then
Who in their right mind would buy an electric car, a car with a nil resale value even if it survives the fire
18650 batteries don't last very long lol
They are all PCP. And like insurance costs, the sensible are left to pick up the bills
Tesla model Y will be the most sold carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023 and year 2024 😊
Fire risk!!! In the US 270,000 fossil fuel cars catch fire per year killing 400 people by the fire, many fuel stations, fuel tankers even refineries, and oil rigs regularly catch fire. Just search UA-cam, and thousands of people are killed by carbon monoxide poisoning from exhaust pipes, Compared to Hardly any EV fires that to date have killed nobody!
And EVs hold their second value far better than fossil fuel cars!
Yes lease, contract hire etc, companies want to be seen to be doing the "right thing" also there's the well heeled pensioners who see the green stripe on the number plate as a badge of honour
This is the most sense I've heard for ages! God bless you Mike Brewer.
Well said Mike, and it's people like you, with your knowledge and experience who should be advising our woeful politicians, who simply don't have the necessary skills and knowledge to deal with the situation.
Advising our woe full politicians they just don’t care what ever Davos says will be their stance it’s like the old saying you can take a horse to water “but you cannot make it drink”
Never mind the expense of electric cars, the environmental cost in production and disposal is ridiculously worse than any ice vehicle it’s a total sham
So the governments of the world won't all E.V. by 2050 ?? Think again ! 1there is not enough mertriels on the planet to meat the requirement of E.V. cars to be made !2 not enough power to supply them !3 time 30 years is about 200 years short !think about it! But there is other technology available to day to reduce pollution on coal powered power stations and on cars trucks motorcycles and so on but the government's of the world are not interested?this technology has Federal Accreditation in the U.S.A. this was done 15 years ago but nothing from the governments of the world..No body wants to pay for the technology available to reduce pollution even further.
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Is that true? You must really know your stuff. You must be a scientist and top researcher!
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Not true. Check numerous facts on this. Unless you are in the pay of the Arabs or Iranians?
@@alexmckenna1171 So what not true ? So witch part of my comment is not true !
@@alexmckenna1171so you’ve not read Volvos own remarkably honest report that it takes somewhere between 80,000 and 150,000 miles for an EV to typically become carbon neutral vs it’s ICE equivalent (which is beyond the expected battery life of current EVs, meaning the vehicle will have likely been scrapped as uneconomic to fix before reaching that point).
Leaving anything to these incompetent, self serving liars, our politicians is absolutely disastrous.
Why would you say they are incompetent, they know exactly what they are doing
20 MPH speed limit in Wales wont last long and First Minister of Wales (Mark Drakeford) will be looking for a new role soon as well.
Mike is bang on and everyone in the motor trade has been saying this for years I just find it hard to believe that some CEOs of certain manufacturers did not see this coming by discontinuing their ICE models too soon, the likes of Ford in particular are heading for a financial disaster now...
These Co. Are already broke, VW, FORD, STELLLANTIS, even Toyota. All by design by the New World Order
They were mad ditching the Fiesta
@@southcoaster4135Yes I can’t believe that decision. It’s a corker of a car and one more updated generation would of sold very well.
I think the biggest own goal has to go to porsche?
Good their thinking matches the liberal elite. Ignoring the majority of people who exhibit common sense.
Thank you for airing Mike Brewer's interview. Current government has not thought throw their green car policy right. As Mike says if every one turns to electric the Treasury is going to take a HIT in revenue from less people buying petrol & diesel powered vehicles.
My next car will be a petrol car and I’ll buy it as late as I can. Because if the $hit hit the fan I want to be able to drive and get away. I also don’t want my government to stop my car on my drive, via app, because I haven’t paid one of their new daily made up fines.
Exactly
...and if you think Russia or the Middle East will EVER ban fossil fuels, you need medical help.
Nearly everything is made from the bi products of fossil fuels. Including simple stuff like Paracetamol.
I don't think we need to worry about that, where cars are shipped that the market is big in the middle East, they are moving to EV by product availability.
@@crumbschief5628 In Dubai, sure ...and the rest of it? Russia? Yeah, we dont need to worry about it. We dont need to worry about Africa either, or South America. They're all just waiting for the UK to go first. ...so they can laugh their asses off at the greatest act of pointless self immolation in the history of the world.
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@@Martyntd5 cars are made with the markets that are moving to EV architecture, so these will slowly follow. America, Europe, Thailand, Korea,, China all shifting to EV architecture. Only Japan and Australia are real resistance and they are changing.
What has been rather overlooked is that from next year, 2024, any manufacturer selling cars in the UK must have 22% of it's sales made up of BEVs. By 2030 that will, incrementally, have risen to a mandated 80% of all sales! So even with the "ban" on ICE vehicle sales pushed back to 2035 we are still going to be forced into BEVs because the manufacturers won't be allowed to sell us the number of ICE vehicles that they have in the past! It's a buggers muddle and someone needs to get a grip, and quickly.
Totally agreed but good look with that
Hopefully those % targets will be watered down over the longer period.
They will find a way around it by giving their employees electric company cars and make them out as sales. Maybe?
If you look at the response from the manufacturers, they were annoyed.
They're committed to EV.
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They can't build both at a profit and they'll be building fewer internal combustion engines..... The margins are going to reduce to the point it's not viable.
No mandate needed.
Truth
@rogerstarkey5390 didn't you listen to him? Manufacturers still need to build cars for markets not pursuing EVs.
Well said Mike Brewer. More influential messages like this from people like yourself to our ill advised senior politicians need to be put out there!
It's not car pundits like Mike Brewer who politicians should listen to it is scientists and technologists. Do they listen to layman like this when it comes to climate change for example?
Level headed intelligent sensible point of view ! I 100% agree
Renault must have had some knowledge of this which is why they are investing 6 billion into ice
Simple fact is - EVs are expensive, and even if I was willing to pay that price, I would not be able to charge it regularly as I live in a flat. And frankly I am not planning to spend my days trying to find somewhere to charge it (which works), then wait around. The idea this government will put in the necessary infrastructure is for the birds. They can’t even decide what day it is!
The government or the WEF know EVs are expensive. That’s why they want petrol and diesel cars gone. It’s all about control
Too expensive too unreliable too dangerous potentially unstable battery's after a crash a write off (fire brigade cut cables) NEVER want one
I have the same issue, I live in a first floor flat, I don't have an allocated parking space, where do I put my charging point, I'd end up having to sit in Tescos everyday.
In Gnosall, Staffordshire the poles are maxed out so you have to be careful with new builds. We've allowed too much immigration and left ourselves with no wriggle room or spare capacity. This country is very badly managed. All they want is a bloated workforce, that is the Tory and labour vision. Lets be less greedy and live with what we have. Its enough. There is no energy crisis. It is manufactured.
As we move into the early 2030s, we will see a repeat of what happened during pandemic. New car sales will fall (and manufacturers will shrink further) because the majority of people don't want or can't have BEVs AND the secondhand value of good condition ICE vehicles will skyrocket.
Those motorists out there who treat cars like cheap throwaway white goods (and there are plenty) need to realise this and start looking after their cars really well so that they will either last for a long time in one ownership or be worth decent money in the open market. Those that don't will get left behind as scarcity pushes values up even more.
The plan I'm persuing is exactly that. I'm spending about £4k over 2-3 years to bring my current car back up to virtually 'as new' condition (with a few extras). As I move into retirement, this car should last me well (especially with lower annual mileage) and hopefully I will never be forced into a BEV.
This was my plan, I like working on my own cars and motorcycles anyway. However, we have annual vehicle inspections. Something as simple as a cracked windscreen could fail a car if no replacement is available. In my case, as far as I know, it's the rear window that is not available. Not sure I'd drive a car with a sheet of plastic tapped to the back of the car.
I've always kept my cars in mint condition and it pays dividends come trade in time.
I was never too much of a Mike Brewer fan, but this is good, solid common sense.
100% agree.
He hasn’t told us anything we didn’t already know.
Not really lol. He failed to get a proper charger at home and then says they stink lol
I never cared much for Mr Brewer, but I agree with every word he has said on this video.
‘Old aht ur aaaand’
The EV. The Betamax of the motor industry. Just watch. Just watch.
What is Betamax?
@@jimf4748LMFAO
@@jimf4748, ask your parents. If they don't know, ask your grandparents.
@@cogboy302 I was being sarcastic, I'm in my 70's lol. I'm on my second EV and given the amount the motor industry is spending I doubt EV's will be the next Betamax. I wouldn't go back to combustion engine, slow, noisey, smelly but people can buy what suits them.
@@jimf4748 that's the point. People can buy what suits them and it shouldn't be up to the government to tell us any different. BTW, I do believe that EVs will be the next betamax because most people that want an electric car have already bought one. Like yourself if they suit someones needs then they'll likely buy another one but actually several people I know bought an EV and when the time came to buy their next car they've gone back to ice!
I never thought I'd say this, because I'm not a Mike Brewer fan in any way; but you're right.
EVs are a great idea, but without infrastructure, they're pretty much dead in the water.
I've done physical tests with EV-v-ICE, and the results were undeniable.
The EVs themselves are questionable too; they're heavy, the damage roads, they go through tyres like a starving man in a chip-shop! And there are serious fire risks too, mainly due to battery packs of sub-standard quality overheating and igniting! Having seen an EV catch fire, I can tell you that it's not something I'd ever want to see again!
The massive environmental damage caused in the mining and manufacture of lithium batteries is appalling; and lithium is a finite substance which is likely to run out in around 20 years. Whereas oil is self creating at a rate far faster than it can ever be used.
I drive a petrol powered car; a 2006 Lexus GS300 SE-L. It's clean, silent, comfortable, totally reliable and surprisingly economical. I have no reason to change.
I've raced for 60+ years, owned hundreds of cars, and I've been involved in vehicle R&D for more than 40 years, so I can probably forget more about cars in 5 minutes than most people will ever learn in a lifetime!
We're a very long way from an EV society; a very long way indeed.
here here welll said i Applaud you👏👏
How thick and uneducated are you????
Oil is NOT self-creating in a meaningful time scale (takes 10's of millions of years) and even the oil companies optimistically predict 56 years left at 100 million barrels per day.
Yes, Lithium is finite but 32nd most abundant element and globally have enough to manufacture over a Trillion cars and then be recycled for trillions more, and oil is only used once. A family EV only needs 6 kgs of lithium for 15 years, compared to 30,000 kgs of Gasoline.
And the massive amount of damage mining lithium: Let's put into perspective:
The world mines 0.1 million tons of lithium per year from a couple of dozen mines, compared to 8000 million tons of coal, from 10,000 mines, 100 million barrels of oil per day from 4 million wells, trillions of cubic feet of gas, and 100,000 million tons of other stuff from 103 million other mines. For every ton of lithium mined, the world mines a billion tons of something else!!!
Fire risk!!! In the US 270,000 fossil fuel cars catch fire per year killing 400 people, many fuel stations, fuel tankers even refineries, pipelines and oil rigs regularly catch fire. Just search UA-cam and you will find many explosive fireballs, plus thousands of people killed by carbon monoxide poisoning from exhaust pipes, Compared to Hardly any EV fires, plus EV fires are really slow at getting going, most people can crawl away, and to date have killed nobody!
Evs are simpler to build, far simpler to maintain, far more economical, far less damaging to the environment, and already far cheaper to own over a full life cycle.
The infrastructure is currently matching the amount of EVs sold, and being installed as required matching the rate of EV sales
(Supply and demand) Plus most EVs won't be charged at public charges as there are so many ways and places an EV can be charged. (most will be at home, at work, or at a hotel, gym, shopping center etc........)
By 2030 most, if not all new cars will be EVs with or without the banning of ICE cars.
Excellent 👌
Cars are ok for picking up the kids and tesco shopping but you young ladies would never have the talent to be a superbike racer
ev migt be good idea, but (b)ev not so much, imo..
Toyota boss nailed it by saying to give companies to research all variants of greener fuels etc . Hydrogen , green fuel etc .
but electric cars are nearly 100% efficent. Hydrogen and synthetic fuel is not even 50%. Toyota have now realised this and are changing direction.
@@dps615if efficiency was everything, combustion engines would have been replaced a long time ago (in fact they might never have taken off).
@@dungareesareforfools net 0 has only been a thing the last few years. We're also running out of fossil fuels!
@@dps615Definitely not 100% efficient, because of the length of time they take to charge. A car that can't be used because of lack of fuel, is not efficient by any measure.
@@paulhillman400 Most will charge at home at night though so that's irrelevant 95% of the time. If you need to charge on a long run then a Tesla will do "15
min
Recharge up to 172 miles" and the chargers actually work haha! I think that's more than fast enough after say a 250 mile drive you have just done from charging at home you want a toilet/drink break. It would take you that in a ICE car a lot of the time to fill up anyway at service stations to fill up and then pay or even if you had enough fuel you would still be stopping for food/drinks/toilet on long journeys.
Delayed to 2035, next target 2040.......
No no no there will be no more delays. Klaus will not tolerate it.
2040 was the original year before covid hit us. They moved in back twice since then, now forward again
@@user-ec7jm5uz3n correct
@@user-ec7jm5uz3nWe’re all pawns in a giant global political game of one-upmanship played out by our leaders. At the end of the day, private car ownership isn’t even the big threat to global warming going forwards now modern cars are pretty clean - it’s heavy industry and livestock farming that chuck out the most carbon emissions. Hell, I read recently that cruiseships account for more pollution than all of Europes private car motoring combined…
Never mind electric car charging points……the issue is the lack of electricity power generation without oil gas and coal.
Then how do you propose making synthetic fuels or hydrogen which require between 2 and 6 times as much energy as just powering an EV?
Staying with ICE is not an option if we are to meet CO2?targets so battery EV is the only viable solution
@@BAC_Mono in 1950 it is estimated that world air CO2 saturation was 0.03% and is now estimated as 0.04%. It is a fact that if CO2 levels fall to 0.02% then flora will begin to die off. Importing oil and gas from thousands of miles away is clearly growing the UK CO2 “footprint “.
Electric vehicles are the solution to a problem that doesn't actually need answering. Unfortunately, there are vested interests involved, and it's already past the point of return.
Exactly but people can do something. Refuse to buy these piles of junk.
ICE and EV cars should exist side by side for as many years as it takes to get the infrastructure installed and battery technology to get much better. Oh, and the ability to produce enough electricity in the UK.
Oh please don't talk too much sense ;-)
EVs are dangerous, not eco friendly, unsustainable and so much more than that. I take it you have NEVER researched what they have planned for you? It will never work because they don't want you driving. Don't you realise that?
AND ….. the infrastructure to get power from houses to cars without trailing cables across the pavements. I live in a County Durham rural village which is mostly terraced houses so they are nearly all parked on the road outside houses. I worked out there would be 200 cables across the pavements between house and car from 1600 to 0700 the next morning in a village less than a mile in length.
So about 2130 then? (If at all)
Spot on with your comment there is room for all the forms of vehicles
Do not always see eye to eye with Mike Brewer but he is dead right on all this .
I have the opposite scenario. My EV ownership charging from home has me proving he's dead wrong. The cost and convenience to operate my EV is crazy cheap and amazingly convenient,,,, if charging from home. The infrastructure is barely needed and I've encountered zero issues. Two sides to every story. I'll never go to a gas station again and never revert back to an ICE car and save over 4,000 dollars a year enjoying it. Wonderful technology that puts my gas car to shame. But I agree it's not for everyone. Mike making blanket statements is just stupidity.
@@sunrisejak2709your experience doesn't reflect the problems faced trying to roll EVs out on the same scale as ICE cars. Diesel @ £1.50 per litre is the equivalent of 15p per kwh of energy. Electric in the UK is around 30p per kwh. Your deluded in all honesty. Its not going to happen unless it's forced and most people are forced out of cars.
@@ricardosmythe2548 Deluded? I pay "off peak" rates of about 7.5 US cents equivalent for 1 kwh. Lets look at a 400mi distance. My EV goes about 4.6 mi/kwh. 400/4.6=87kwh to go that distance. 87 x. 075 = 6.5 USD to go that distance. If it's an ICE car that get average 30mpg (US) 400/30 = 13.3. Gas where I live is about 4 dollars per gallon. 13.3 x 4.00 = 53 dollars. 53 bucks vs 6.5 bucks. Doesn't take rocket science to figure that math. PLUS I have a full house solar system which is a 12kw system (22 545 watt panels) with 20kwh of house batteries that store solar energy. This pretty much cancels out my house energy requirements. 😊 I generally have about 20kwh per day excess that can add juice to my EV which further lowers the per mile cost to about half of the earlier calculation. Hence it's the peanuts. My solar system was about 14,000 USD equivalent and has a payback period of a bit less than 6 years. 👍 It's amazing how inexpensive this is. Solar plus EV means my annual energy costs are crazy low. Deluded? I'm smiling all the way to the bank and laugh at folks who think they know what they are talking about. My example is not talk but reality. I suggest you do the math and see if this works for you. My point is the blanket statements made by Mike are simply wrong. Of course his livelihood is derived from ICE cars so he has a vested interest in spreading falsehoods. I'm living proof it is very practical and saves tons of money while being very convenient. But the deniers make irresponsible statements which is pretty much fake news. Again,,,, if you can't charge from home do NOT buy an EV. It does not mean that in all cases EVs don't make sense. I can provide more detail on my system if you wish.
A Tsunami of common sense from Mr Brewer - if only he could be the Head of the DFT - he's got everything sussed, even down to the potential alternative fuels contribution (CO2 Neutral) utterly spot on . . . .
Mike, I just wanted to say thank you for a great series with Wheeler Dealers. I really enjoy listening to your comments and opinions on things and just wanted to thank you. Top job mate
My son works at a local power station. Their bosses have told them that it will be the boil the kettle syndrome at tea time but many times worse when everyone comes home and all want to charge their cars at the same time.
I know someone who supplies backup generators for large buildings and supermarket stores. Whenever there is a power surge the government asks him to remotely turn on the diesel genset generators to pump some power into the grid.
@Jones-xx2gc - that's why in January, the government gave the green light to charge more during the Triad period (16:00-19:00hrs, 1st Nov to 28th Feb).
That’s why the Govt want to install Smart Meters in every home. They can determine exactly what you’re using your electricity for and then control when you do so by charging/fining you accordingly.
dont worry by "informing" us about smart meters what they really are doing is having the ability to charge us differetn rates at different times or even stopping us from charging completely
FIx and repair..... the new way forward....
The plan is that most people won’t even own a car. Wales is well on the way to restricting personal transport.
Well, vote out that idiot 1st Minister Drakeford. That would be a good first move.
Is that so, boyo.....
@@iandennis7836just wait 😂
correct.........people cant see it though
Great comments Mike, over here in Australia we have a Federal Government insisting on Net Zero. They are closing coal fired power stations at a staggering rate. But we are digging coal out of the ground as fast as we can and are selling our souls to China and other countries. The power grid is woefully inadequate to handle our heating and cooling needs, let alone plugging in all the 'Planet Saving' EV's. Our basic energy costs are out of control, I had to dig deep and had a 12.445kw solar system fitted at home. This will negate my power bill but fuel costs' are on the rise and the cost of living is increasing daily. There was an article about a farmer out west in New South Wales that purchased a Hybrid vehicle.He drove it to the nearest big town and it needed charging. He parked and plugged in to a charging station at the side of the road and left his vehicle for a couple of hours. When he went to pay for the charging he was hit with a $90.00 aus fee. The power was cheap but the parking fee was unbelievable, but no one could tell him where the parking fee money goes too. He now only uses the vehicle on petrol.
The point is they dont want people to have cars, look at the WEF agenda. 15 minute cities etc.
EVs are part of the communist push they're disguising as climate change.
Sigh. The idea of 15 minute cities is that you DON'T have to get in a car to get something done. What is your problem with that?
Exactly
@@user-tq1qd3iu2t exactly what? And to whom was your reply directed?
Nobody banned Horses to tempt people to buy cars. People bought cars when they were cheaper and more convenient than owning a horse. Similarly, if EV's become cheaper and easier to charge etc, then maybe people will buy them. But you can't force people into EV's by making the alternative prohibitively expensive or removed from sale. People need transport, especially in rural areas and ICE cars are the most cost effective mode of transport.
here here well said i Applaud you👏
A hy bread ice and electric is the way to go at this point?
@@bobbritten5673 Use ya loaf and get a Hy-Bread...Preferably and Allinson wiv nowt tekken owt 🤣
Indeed, and only rich people owned horses now anyone can have a car. EVs are too expensive and just not good enough for many people
@@caeserromero3013 In have said that a hy bread car is the way to go! But in the meantime there still technology available to day to reduce pollution on coal powered power stations and on cars trucks motorcycles and so on!But the government's of the world are not interested!And no one wonted to pay for the technology available! On a diesel engine pollution is reduced by 98 percent! And on A Petrol engine a reduction in pollution by 50 percent .this technology would be a good step in the right direction in reducing pollution on the motor transport of the world? No money has been made available to bring to the public domain ?by car companyies!or governments to get this technology out on the roads of the world.people can winge all thay like but the government's of the world are not listening ?
Well said, nice to hear someone talking common sense for a change.
Having until recently working for a local authority I totally agree with Mike, the future transport programme focused mainly on electric scooters and bicycles, buses with minimum charging points. Another sign that governments don't really think things through
I worked very hard to be able to afford the cars I have, and they were bought for purpose. I can't do almost all of the things I can currently do if I move to an EV. No more ease of access for my elderly mother, no loading kayaks on the roof and driving up to the Isle of Skye on one run, or through the Channel tunnel into Europe, to visit family and friends. Every long journey in an EV is made exponentially longer, requiring regular stops and possibly overnight stays. Uness you are running around the doors, an EV is a disastrous combination of extremely expensive, and very, very limiting.
The transport industry is the biggest culprit for emissions, so why target motorists ?
Captive audience for endless taxes...
They don’t want you driving around enjoying yourself, you will be living 15 minute cities, eating what you’re told , and raking regular jabs .
I agree with most of your comment, but not your final comment. Shipping, Railways, Air Transport and Chinese Industry are the biggest culprits.
Now you understanding why these parasites are doing this?
I think the ultimate plan is to restrict the private ownership of cars. ICE cars have already increased in price and as less are sold due to EV quotas, this will continue.
I agree with you 100%…nobody has a god given right to have their own, personal, motor vehicle but the majority don’t think of this…I believe that the global fleet size WILL reduce over time, as cars fall off the end of their life cycle…the electric cars of today are merely being used as test beds for the technology which will eventually be taken over by global concerns, most likely Uber (set up with massive investment for this ultimate reason), who will then run driverless car “ shuttle services”…to further strengthen this possible scenario, look at Friday’s announcement that the sale of cigarettes is going to be banned to anyone born after 1st January 2009…it just goes to proves that “rights” can be taken away (once those that provided them have milks hem of every bit of profit that they can!).
The plan is to stop the peasants driving altogether. We can then be corralled into our 15 minute ghettoes where we can be more easily controlled.
What a miserable existence that will be.. fine for City dwellers And the Elite.. the rest can just sit at home heh
Of course people have the god given right to their own personal vehicle. Sod lugging a load of shopping or trying to get to work on a bus,it takes twice as long to get anywhere. You sound like a tyrant. Do you work for Klaus Shwabb ( can’t remember how you spell his surname and don’t care) ?
Oh and yes that is the plan,as well as a load of other restrictions on your freedoms. The plan is that we become like China. All this stuff is out there to read on official websites,they don’t make it secret.
This is exactly what the proponents of the 15 Minute Cities want, only the few will be afforded the luxury of EV travel.
Exactly.
I agree with Mike that even if they mandate electric cars only, there will still be a need for alternate fuels for the haulage industry that keeps the world moving,
Apparently you have not heard of Tesla trucks and the trucks in Australia.
@@peterjones6322 What about the trucks in Australia - do tell
@@farnthboy They charge them up using massive diesel generators round the back 😀
I’m in the truck industry and we are being told by the end of 2025 we have to sell 1 BEV truck (excluding refuse chassis which don’t count) for every 7 ICE trucks or the manufacturer will be fined millions of euros. Only way to do that without incurring the fines is that we can’t register a diesel truck (known as an embargo) if we haven’t already registered enough BEV trucks so the customer buying a diesel truck has to wait for delivery until the embargo ends and that will only happen if we register one in 7 BEV’s. Added to that there is almost zero infrastructure to charge a hgv anywhere in the uk. Hgv’s are charged on DC so not on a car charger. Some city buses are electric where we are but the chargers are run by big fuck off Agrekko diesel generators! Oh the irony!
Already got it Diesel
How many people stay in flats ,wires hanging out of windows etc,nonsense.
You mean poor people (in general) …. Poor people will not be allowed to drive if they have their way
They'll just be stuck in their 15 minute cities, no need for a car. And definitely no flying anywhere. Well, that's WEF's plan.
Yes. Finally. Someone who has a bit of clout in the motoring world is saying the right thing 👍🏻
As an engineering designer, i have to say that to charge only 25% UK leccy car fleet, would require many new power stations and a whole new electric power grid.
Imagine trying to simultaneously charge 25 million leccy cars and power 30 million home heat pumps in mid winter at night (16h nights)...
And right now we're only building one extra nuclear power station. Yeah.
lol pathetic isn't it
Exactly 👍
Amazingly, the UK is scared of upsetting the "Anti Nuclear" Lobby....so the UK HAS to import electricity from France...produced in Nuclear Power stations.
If they have a meltdown in those French power stations....the problems will not be confined to France!
The UK can't stop dinghies...how will it cope with radiation!
A complete and utter joke.
What makes you think we'd ever have to charge 25m electric cars simultaneously? Do 25m ICE cars visit the petrol station at the same time? Your comments are in complete contrast to what the National Grid say. The vast majority of people, like myself, would need to charge once a week. I do that during the day at work, or overnight at home.
@@andrewparker5800 They will be banned soon and good luck insuring it.
So glad to hear Mike, voice of reason and common sense, sadly lacking these days when so many motoring figures have jumped on the electric bandwagon and lost my respect entirely. I'm sure that I am not alone in having my spirits lifted by the PM's announcement the other night, as a car enthusiast and motorist I wouldn't want forcing to have an electric car and at 68 there's a fair chance I'll be gone now before I have to.
Buy a half-decent economical reliable ICE car in 2034 by which time you will be nearly 80 same as me, let's hope we can still buy the fuel for them and it doesn't get taxed to the hilt to force us off the road.
Great interview - straight forward questions and straight forward answers. Why does the MSM and politicians not address the electric vehicle/ICE debate honestly?
Agendas and narratives thats why
He's absolutely correct about ev cars! Bit of a worry that he thinks covid was handled well, and it was justified though!
Jeez...seriously?............then he isn't all that bright is he. You saved me from wasting time watching this.
These problems were obvious from the start .Not to anyone in charge though .
But to all of us with any Automotive technical knowledge.
@@RichardASK Its just common sense isn't it?
Finally, I totally agree with somebody 😂 Well said Mike !
Great honest straight talking as expected , my own thoughts are that the powers to be don't actually want life to continue as is ...i.e the every day man in the street not owning a car !!
They don't want you to have a car, because you will be in a 15 min prison city
Not to mention there is a limited supply of lithium to produce these toxic batteries worldwide
They are working on alternatives to lithium and cobalt, but even those have to be mined.
Lithium is ABUNDANT
A friend works in civil engineering. He earns around £100k per year. A couple of years ago he was approached by a company who wanted him to manage installing home EV charging points. They offered him a salary of £30k.
What do you reckon his response to their offer was?
A family a few doors down from me, on the other side of the road, have either 4 or 5 cars between them. They have space for one on their driveway. At all times at least one of their cars is parked outside my house.
Where are they going to charge all the electric cars they'd need?
Well there's an idea. Limit households to one car only.
Let's design our infrastructure based on every property having 4 or 5 cars, that makes sense !
One of them at your place by the sound of it .
they'll ask to borrow your charging point
@@newsoftheday420 LOL! So what if the Mother and Father work in different locations and work different shifts. They also have 2 of their 25+ year old offspring living with them as they can't afford to buy their own homes but still also need to get to work in different places from either of their parents and from each other? Do you happen to live in London perchance?
I've been drivng diesel cars since 1985 and it's always been up to us, the car owners, whether we preffered petrol or diesel. Most people tend to buy the vehicle that best suits their individual needs, even when the government did their best to persuade us to ditch petrol in favour of diesel, apparently all based on a lie? I don't see how EVs are any different, for some people they're perfect, for most they aren't. There are thousands of cars still being used daily that are more than 20 years old and some that are over 30. Even if they do stop the sale of new ice vehicles it will be decades before they're all off the roads and this is because most people don't want an ev. Hopefully before the date of the ban comes around the government will have seen sense and decided to let the people paying for it decide what sort of car they want?
Nice analysis Mike, thanks.
Net zero is simply un-costed. The charging point situation is just the consumer-facing issue. The National Grid needs a £100billion upgrade to supply them. Government expects the consumer to pay which will mean a three fold increase in the (already punitively expensive) price of electricity.
Looks like I'll be driving my diesel for a few years yet.
IF Electric cars were cheap, infostructure sorted, charging in 3 mins this would still not work. To charge all those electric cars in the uk, we don't have enough power stations to supply that much electricity. Building another 15 power stations would not happen in the next 100 years.
I think they ignore the fact this is what is going on in China. They have rapidly transitioned to EV's but to keep the lights on and charge all the EV's they sell they have to build a new coal fired power station every week. But no one goes to protest about climate change in that country do they, only the places where the smallest levels of pollution are seen.
You miss the point they want our cars
Exactly
Scottish Power is on record saying they will never upgrade their network to cope with EVs , it's just not possible unless they have a superconductor break through.
I've always said from the start we will end up with a hybrid of vehicles, EVs , hybrids, hydrogen and synthetic fuels for ic engines.
I recently spent some time in Cleveland, an old Victorian town on the Bristol Channel. All its big old house have been converted into six or eight flats and their gardens concreted over to provide parking. The streets are lined with parked cars day and night. Nothing is being done to provide the massive increase in the electric infrastructure necessary to support EV's indeed just a few miles away large pylons are being constructed to convey power from Hinckley to the north and the locals are up in arms about it. We are a hundred years away from going fully electric and before then something else will have turned up. What about hybrids? We seem to be bypassing a whole era of cleaner technology. These globalists are truly mad.
Agreed
But first you must realise that there is no crisis.
Well said fella
Problem>>>Reaction>>>Solution
I have thought this way for years too. I can't see the point in punishing us because the rest of the world won't scrap IC cars and get rid of their boilers and we all breathe the same air.
it was always about getting people out of cars.....and still is
Excellent comments Mike, nail on the head. Many pointed these failings years ago, and like covid, it is the sensible among us who pick up the tab for the gullible and geocentric
It's a cost and technology challenge we are not ready for, all that has happened in reality is all the nice little cheap cars are being removed from sale just 3 years ago you could buy granny an £8k celerio. Now it's £14k. I agree with Mike on this just look at the grid and energy production its like fusion power always 29byears away.
I noticed that too, used to be able to get a new car really cheap, however this is the UK, go to Thailand you can get an ice car still dirt cheap, the UK IS a rip off and only people who have never really lived elsewhere dont know this, its not just cars its a whole host of things with the prices massively inflated for the UK
Mike knows. End of
Never a truer word Mike ! well done
Some very good points brought by Mike Brewer
The same thing many of us have been saying for years. 👍
What really irked me was watching an ‘around Britain’ type of tv programme around two years ago with a piece being set in a stately home with a hydro device.
In the programme, a UK Water Spokesman stated that the infrastructure was ALREADY in place using hydroelectric ONLY to power EVERY household in the country, assuming that each household owned one EV.
I’d love to find that episode now because these gas lighters need exposing.
I remember that programme, it was really good but the problem isn't producing the electricity, it's transmitting it .
That claim, had one enormous flaw! In this country, the majority of our hydro, is pumped storage. For hydroelectricity to be truly 'renewable', it needs three things.
And abundant supply of water, not just our usual slightly rainy days, but real continuous downpours. A number of massive catchment lakes, the size of Loch Ness/Lomond. And at a considerable height. We fail on all three.
Hmmm, you've just provoked a thought, ' each household owned one EV'. What about those homes where there are two, three or more, they can't all be charged?
We had a test drive in a Dacia Jogger Hybrid… very impressed. I can see the value & utility behind this combined technology.
They should have never been allowed to make this decision for us in the first place.
There’s also NO CLIMATE CRISIS.
We cant afford an electric cars, plus the grid cant cope with everyone charging at once.
I entirely agree with Mike's viewpoint about EVs and let's hope that he is right in thinking that petrol driven cars will continue to be produced for many years after 2035 - but I very much doubt it. Indeed, manufacturers have already ceased production of most small to medium sized petrol driven cars - those with the lowest emissions I might add! Only larger petrol powered cars, with higher emissions, continue to be produced by most manufacturers. Just crazy...
Why would you want ICE cars to continue being made when their toxic emissions continue to build up in the atmosphere of our towns and cities? Look at Oslo in Norway where new car sales are now 90% EV and 25% of all cars on the roads there are now electric. Their air quality has seen massive improvement with particulates, NOX, SO2 and other trace gases much reduced. We keep trying to kid ourselves that burning fossil fuels can somehow be 'part of the solution' or the pipe dream of e-fuels or hydrogen but all those things need huge amounts of energy to provide which is why the answer is EVs, the sales of which continue to grow month on month.
I am really pleased for you that you can afford a 30/40 or more thousand pound Car, the rest of us can just walk heh
I predict that as the deadline approaches, there will be a huge demand for the last ICE cars produced, from the many thousands of people living in flats and terrace houses for whom electric cars are useless. This is the only way that they can retain their personal mobility for as long as possible before having to resort to public transport and I'm sure that this will not have been lost on the car makers, expect stockpiling and inflated prices for a desperate buying surge.
Yes, I think so too - and prices of EVs will still have to come much lower, if only to make up for unrealistic waiting times for recharging, without even mentioning their other serious drawbacks!!@@lawrenceholden5716
Spot on 👍.
They should have stuck to the original 2040 date when it was first announced before covid. They moved it back to 2035, then back to 2030 and now forward for 2035. A further push back to 2040 is inevitable.
Well done , the working person covers the cost .Rural areas there’s no charging. My old diesel Volvo does 55 mpg !
Thank you for common sense
It would be like a 100 years ago saying all horses must be banned in 10 years! Cars and vans took over because of cost and convenience. Until an electric car is better and cheaper I'll keep my diesel.
Thanks Mike - The only way to achieve such objectives is through simple market demand without any unfair subsidies from the government paid for by taxpayers. This way it happens naturally over a period of time. Hydrogen engines are indeed a much better solution.
A few points of note.
1) Check out the amount of money paid globally in "oil subsidies".
It dwarfs anything for EVs.
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2) You know that not only are "Hydrogen engines" horribly inefficient (even more so than gasoline) but you can't convert a "normal" engine. Hydrogen eats the components.
You need a new engine.
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3) the expense of building, then maintaining Hydrogen infrastructure is *enormous*
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Guess who will pay....
What do you mean by 'hydrogen engines', fuel cells or internal combustion? Either way you have to ask where the hydrogen is going to come from and how much energy will be needed to make the hydrogen.
Ask Toyota
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270
Did he actually praise the government's action with the covid crisis? It took 2-years for them to decide everything they suggested had did nothing and that we would have to live with the virus, which is what virologists suggested from the very outset. Everything else Mike Brewer said is good sense, something you will never get from politicians.
@@rogerstarkey5390oil is NOT subsidised it is heavily taxed.
The voice of reality, telling it like it is. The unvarnished facts spelt out for all to hear.
Hello Mike - Glad to see you're joining the fight!!! No new power stations where I live, but they are demolishing one of the biggest in the UK at Fiddlers Ferry. The gov have no intention of delivering on their promises. Instead they're still building stations that only provide power off-peak during the day or when the wind blows.
Someone talking sense at last !!!
Common sense from Mike Brewer. I know that I would certainly never buy one, life is stressful enough without wondering if you will be able to charge your car every time you go out.
I feel these are silly little distractions.
The country is in so much disarray in many ways.
Let’s prioritise!!!!
Mike is saying what every right thinking person has known all along. Personally, I have a hybrid and can’t see any reason to change.
I always thought hybrids were the best compromise- better mpg so it saves on gas and no inconvenience of having to charge them (or if a plug in hybrid, plugging in is a choice, not a necessity).
Totally agree, I’m very satisfied with my plug-in hybrid providing the best of two Worlds so I never need to worry about charging anxiety or massive ques at charging stations. My car makes about 80 km electric and 750 km on petrol. Most of my daily driving is within 50 km hence I slowcharge cheap at my home charging box overnight going green. For longer trips I just fill up the petrol. The car is a 4WD seven seater making it versatile. In addition 0-100 in 5,4 sec so quite fun too.
@@janjson435 I have a 3.5T motorhome, just completed a trip of 630 miles, average fuel consumption 37mpg. My tank holds nearly 20 gals of diesel. So nearly 750 miles, and only took, about 5 minutes to fuel up.
Diesel would have been even more economical.@@janjson435
@@rjones6219 So you drove 630 miles with a single 5 minute stop? Wow. I wish I had a 5 litre bladder too. Must be handy.
We go to Cornwall (320) miles with the caravan on tow, and used to stop twice for diesel, food and toilets. 20+ minutes each time. Now with my EV, we stop 3 times to charge (30 to 40 mins each time). Whilst charging, we use the toilets, grab food etc. My EV charges from 10% back up to 80% in 30 mins. The extra journey time doesn't bother me. Just chill.
At last someone speaking some sense on the EV problem, to many manufacturers making EV's for a minority of the UK retail market. Unless your a company car buyer taking advantage of 2% bik an electric vehicle is currently just to expensive for the vast majority, especially in the current economic climate. The future, Hydrogen, Solid State, alternative fuels + much more over the next 12 years.
Plenty of dummies round my way that have them
I suggest you do some reach on hydrogen for use in vehicles and then you will see it makes no sense, even if you continue to produce it as today from natural gas releasing CO2.
Well said Mike I’m a taxi driver of 35 years it’s not going to work not in the taxi industry any way and I will never get one I’ll give it up first
Vauxhall in Ellesmere Port have changed to electric car building. It used to say home of the Astra across the front of the factory, it now says electrifying Britain. JLR at Halewood is expanding their factory to build electric vehicles as well. It’s huge. But as Mike says it’s not the future.
I work in the taxi trade in chester and the licensing department want us to have electric taxis but they aren’t providing any infrastructure to support charging working taxis. So far there are only two LEVC taxis in chester. I was told by the senior licensing officer that charging points would be installed on the taxi ranks in chester when the first LEVC taxi appeared. 4 years later and not a single move has been made to change this.
Kind of agree with MB charge points in rural England virtually non existent & most folk can’t afford an EV even if they could stick a home charger on the barn wall ! 10 / 20 year old motors are the thing out in the sticks lol
end up in in uk like Cuba driving 30 plus year old petrol cars this tory goverment needs kicking out now
@@iandaniels8386 Well with Labour it would be much worse. Listen to Starmer complaining about the “lack of progress” in green politics. If Labour get in they would bankrupt the whole country in just a few years as green politics is extremely expensive and will never lead to anything else than expensive energy and poor people.
@@iandaniels8386 do you REALLY think the other side is ANY better? Ive seen bugger all change with left or right over 60 years. same crap different govt
@@truxton1000 The country has been bankrupt since WW1 thats the REALITY
biggest scam ever.
Apart from 91 - divoC
Very good analysis Mike. As a recent convert to EV ( tax reasons Co car) I really think this artificial cliff edge for Ice cars is madness. I’m under no impressions that I’m saving the environment in my Tesla, the thing will take many years to offset the carbon cost of manufacture, and I shudder to think what will happen when it’s scrapped one day…
Do you really care what happens to you old company car I sure won't. Or the 16 previous cars that came before it. Or the ones after.
@@chrishart8548 not massively, but I would like to think that it could be melted down and made into new stuff.. EV recycling doesn’t seem to be a thing..
@grantnyenes3742 they are struggling, they would be stripped down for parts at least at some point. I would imagine some of the battery cells could be re used and the electric motors could be re used and stripped down and re built if needed.
If it doesn't catch fire in the meantime 😊
@@xxthegamerz0riginalxx920 lol, I think the stats show they are no more likely to than a regular car 😂
Instead of making the jump straight to EVs, until the infrastructure is in place, why not say from 2030 all new cars must be hybrids. At least that's a middle ground.
Lecky is for milk deliveries, once the range of these vehicles and available charging is sorted out could be ok but that is years away “ diesel rules” and always will
Any chance Mike could call AutoTrader and explain this to them. Would love to see an open, honest debate with someone like Mike & (Ian?) Plummer @ AT, who seem to be unequivocally greenwashing more by the week.
Car magazines and journalists have to promote the new narrative. I stopped buying or watching anything from Autocar, Carwow, Auto Trader and even Top Gear when I realise what they were doing. I only tend to watch or read classic car magazines or videos now.
well done for taking to the man in the know Mike knows his what he’s talking about 👏👏👏👏.
Good to hear Mike's views..
My feelings are that the governments set a target date so people would think they would have to naturally migrate towards it. The cost and effectiveness of electric cars let alone charging them people (including myself) have just ignored it. People also act with their wallets and let's face it, they are not that big enough, neither is mine for such a culture change, yet. Will it ever be? I'm a petrol head not an electron head!!
Well said Mike we have a Hybrid due to friends opting for pure EV and having a massive headache with the lack of a charging structure in place to support the amount of vehicles on the road know plus broken or faulty units at the service points off the motoways.
Great comments Mike .
Totally agree Mike , in most of towns there are rows and rows of terrace houses , when everyone is home from work you can’t find a parking space there are hundreds of cars over a few streets , there is no way councils are going to fit the hundreds of charge posts required . Look at motorway services with 400 cars at any one time , what will they do when 300 of them are electric cars , fit 300 charge posts ? I don’t think so ! Chris
Someone talking some sense at last. There is nothing green about electric cars, just look at the raw materials requirements. Everybody I know who has had one has said they are unusable on a day-to-day basis. Until we start using nuclear power to charge these things and the battery technology improves, electric cars have a very limited market.