Pilot starts takeoff roll without clearance, gets yelled at (ATC audio) | Happy Landings
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2022
- "Jet 882" jumps the gun and gets in trouble. In this mostly audio-only clip, a Beech King Air 350i pilot gets stopped partway down the runway as he tries to take off without clearance. Incident recorded at Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas on July 17, 2022.
NOTE: The automated camera system was focusing on other aircraft for most of this clip. The big plane you see taking off is not the (much smaller) one that made the mistake. The video pauses to point out the offending plane when it is on screen.
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Not following the control tower's orders was one of the mistakes made during the 1977 Tenerife disaster which cost the lives of 583 people.
That was the first thing that I thought of as well. Many factors went into that crash (the fog, the terrorist bomb at the other airport, the controllers working short handed), but the final factor was the KLM taking off without ATC clearance.
@@stever7157 Correct !!!
@@stever7157 true, he was impatient.
@@sonnyroy497 last words: oh godverdomme!
@@Heavoc It means “Oh god damn” in Dutch 😊
Man these flight simulator games are getting so realistic sometimes you forget when you are in an actual plane.
Right!
🤣🤣
With real people 😂
Conspiracy theory
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I received the infamous "number to call" 30 years ago. It was a series of coincidences and misreads of radio frequencies and converting to zulu time and an out of service navigational aid that resulted in me believing the airport tower was closed. When they gave me light gun signals, believing my radio was inoperative, I had a serious sinking feeling. They requested my presence in the control tower after I taxied in and a ramp attendant told me I am in trouble and need to call them on the red phone. Man, they grilled me heavily. I was scared stiff. Good folks. Let me off after using it as a teachable moment. I was up there in the hot seat for an hour and a half! Was a private pilot working toward my instrument rating and commercial certificate and they didn't want to see my career ended.
Something similar happened to me 27 years ago when I was a student pilot going for my private on one of my solo cross countries. I was to land at a class D airport and on the sectional chart it was one of the Class D that you are required to contact approach control as I didn't see any indication that it had a ARSA or Class C so I dialed in the tower frequency and contacted the tower in what I thought was far enough away without busting the Class D airspace, well it wasn't as I entered the Class D by about a half mile before I established my communications when I should have first contacted approach control. Upon landing I didn't know I was in big trouble until I taxied off the active and was told to copy a phone number and at that point I was sweating bullets. When I talked to guy in the control tower he ripped me a new one up one side down the other and one of the things he yelled at me about was not identifying myself as a student pilot on the radio. Now upon getting my log book signed and on my way out of there I was pretty flustered at this point and I busted an active runway without clearance. Now I'm getting yelled at again over the radio and they just wanted to get me out of there ASAP. It was the worst flight of my life and just a really bad day. I was so relieved to finally land back at my home airport I was expecting the Class D airport to contact my flight instructor and rip him a new one, but they never did. I told him what happened as he didn't have too much to say about it. Just one of those days that one should have stayed home, but one good thing out of that is you learn real fast.
@@michaelb.8953 Im currently a student pilot and im about to get my private pilot license in about a month. On my second solo cross country I was coming back to my home airport (class c) and was talking to approach. Approach told me to make a right base for runway 21 so I did, once they told me to contact tower I forgot to swap over to my second radio since I was using radio 1 and instead I just swapped to the ground frequency and tried to contact tower. Ground told me I was on the wrong frequency so my not so bright self still didn't realize I was using the wrong radio and then I called approach thinking it was tower and and they were busy so they didn't respond to my call, so instinctively I just called again. Approach then told me I was on the wrong frequency so finally I figure it out and swap to tower and call them up and all was good. I'm so happy they never gave me a phone number to call or chewed my ass out. Never have I ever been so happy to announce student pilot over the radio lmao.
I crashed !!!!!!!!!!!!1
@@ronsterpearce2688 hah you win
Hm. I feel for you, but aren't you supposed to use the tower frequency as a CTAF when it's closed? That would have saved you a lot of sweat. Live and learn I suppose.
March 27th, 1977 a Dutch pilot took off down the runway without permission.... 583 people died. This happened on one of the Canary islands, Tenerife.
Yes, Sonny Roy. I immediately thought of that horrific crash. Worst aviation disaster in history.
Pan Am and KLM
Yes I watched that horrific scene
The pilot fell on deaf ear even when the co pilot was letting him know he should hold on,he was acting superior and knows all
This was a time when aeronautical phraseology was still confusing. The Pan Am, back tracking the active runway where KLM was already lined up in the opposite direction, waiting for take off clearance, was told « report runway cleared », the communication was somehow garbled an the KLM captain believed this was for him being cleared for take off. The 2d officer asked « are you sure we are clear for take off? » the senior Captain said yes and pushed the throttle while Pan Am was still on the runway but not visible because of heavy mist. Because of this disaster, the phraseology has since been changed into « report runway vacated » so that no confusion remains. In this present case, visibility was 100% and no airplane was on the runway. Still not great!
The correct control instruction should've been "STOP STOP STOP". The controllers comment "...you were not cleared for take off..." if clipped or over transmitted could easily have sounded like .... "cleared for take off...." making the problem worse.
Good point.
He was in the air.
Never mind. Oops.
A’la PSA 182
It is hard to stop once you are in the air. 😂😂😂😂😂
Wow...that was handled with so much mutual class and professionalism.
Lol no?
@@the3rdid485 sarcasm i believe
It really was I was waiting for them to give him a #
Not the classy ATC voice, but the message immediately got through to the pilot and he was able to stop the aircraft. Politeness might have permitted an incident here.
@@the3rdid485 Well...what else to do but put the clearance and it's acceptance on the record, each respectfully accepting the learning experience.
The captain must think he is Jacob van Zanten on KLM flight 4805.
We are human and make mistakes! Its how those mistakes are recognized and dealt with in a mature/professional manner is the difference between a bruised ego and life lost!
Pilots have Zero room for error, their mistake cost lives. This has nothing to do with ego or learning... the stimulated training is the time to deal with those issues. On the runway eyes and ears much be open and alert.
Yeaaa.. making mistakes as a pilot can cost lives (like RN said) .. there’s minimal room for error.. especially something like this. Cough cough KLM4805
You can potentially make mistakes like taxing on the wrong taxiway, parking at the wrong gate, or stand, forgetting to go full flaps on final, or the very common mistake making an announcement to the passengers, but only the atc employee herd it. You see we humans can make mistakes, and when we do we learn from them not to do it again.
@@rn6447 who tell u pilot don’t make mistakes. They are human, to err is human. U prob think that aircraft engineer & doctor don’t make mistakes. Grow up.
There's mistakes like leaving the fridge door slightly open or dropping an ice cream at the beach, then there's mistakes that get hundreds of people killed.
Guess which should never be made?
Wow, that controller was super nice and chill considering he was in the process of taking off without clearance.
"What are you doing?" is something I used to ask my child when she walked on the couch, I didn't expect to hear ATC query a licensed pilot for being on their furniture without permission. Yikes!
Women don’t belong in ATC, with all their lady emotions. Just need solid men.
"We DON'T have clearance, Clarence!"
Whats your Vector Victor??? What?? Roger! Over? Huh??? Lol 😂
He had the vector, Victor. Roger. Over. Huh?
Who’s Clarence?
I am serious..and don't call me Shirley..😏
Who?
"You'll be shot for this!"
"Nah, I don't think so. More like chewed out. I've been chewed out before."
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I didn’t hear her say “Jet 882 are you ready to copy a number?” So I think they are in the clear.
Oh it can come later. Just when you start to unclinch
Yeah, I believe an unauthorized takeoff role is a mandatory report, definitely for atc, and likely for pilot.
I was piloting that plane and I don’t even have a pilots license yet. How was I supposed to know when I could leave?
You shouldn't have been if you don't know when you're cleared to takeoff.
@@mathewshackelford8037 okay!
I think I was your First Officer
I was in the lavatory cracking one off and I screamed WTF?!!!
I always thought that if there was an opening you could just take it!! Let the suckers waiting in lines get the late arrivals!!
That’s what sleep deprivation does to pilots.
So that's the reason airport coffee is super strong
Denzel Washington did cocaine and was able to fly an MD-80 upside down and then land it right side up.
@@badgerfishinski6857Wasn’t he drinking?
Nobody yelled !!
She just told the guy that he was not cleared for TO and a second later he was cleared from his position !!
She was being condescending "what are you doing "
@@rad9541 as she should
I was on a plane that started down the runway ready to take off all of a sudden they slowed down and started back. The pilot told us that they didn't get the green light to go.🤦♂️
Maybe the crew joined the Great Resignation!
I think that pilot picked the wrong week to quit drinking.
And sniffing glue...
I don't think he has quit.
I wish my lady would yell at me that gently
Hopefully he filled out an ASAP report in himself.
I'm surprised that he didn't get a 'number to call'.
Thank you for stating what clearly needed to be said.
a number to call for what
@@j.a.3138 big scary boss number !
He got outta Vegas so fast, the phone number couldn't catch up to him!
@@j.a.3138 pilot deviation, the dreaded "you have a pen ready" ? Lol
He didn't even get yelled at and I'm sure stuff like this happens a lot but let the internet twist this up like they usually do.
I always repeated in the cockpit my takeoff clearance at least three times.
“I have a number for you to call”
I'm curious, is a situation like this something that has to be reported as well? Like he has to take down a number and everything once he's in the air? I'm surprised they didn't have him get off the runway. If anyone knows, I'd love to know.
It most definitely was reported.
Holy crap! That could have gone real bad. OMG
Fatigue will cause this type of error, great thing tower controller was on point and pilot immediately acknowledged his mistake.
Honestly , how can pilots and atc make sense of this fur ball? It astounds me that runway incursions don't happen several times a day.
Just get used to it over time, better to be a co-pilot for awhile and get acclimated.
@flanker12 At controlled airports they are, unless prior coordination is done.
@flanker12 As for using radios at uncontrolled airports, including those when the tower is closed, the FAA considers it “good operating practice”, to use a radio. I know there have been incidents that have occurred because of this. I agree with you they should be used.
@flanker12 You have a few points there. Even private pilots still have to maintain a FAA Class 3, flight physical. Aircraft must have an Annual maintenance check, and engine overhauls after x number of hours. Pilots are all required to have flight review every 2 years. Still not up to the standards of airline pilots or those with advanced ratings. Not paying attention, does occur. But in fairness considering the number of private aircraft flying, the safety record is pretty good.
I remember training as a student pilot on a solo, I had to ask ATC to repeat 3 times because they wouldn’t slow down, they wanted to kill me
He made an error, atc corrected him and that was that. Mistakes are vital to learning.
Mistakes are costly in aviation.
@@DreamCatcher-wg1bk you’re absolutely right but humans aren’t robots and will always make mistakes, we just need to learn from them to avoid making the same ones.
Big mistake man you don’t know what you are talking about
Big mistake man you don’t know what you are talking about
@@daz657 Nah you rarely get to make another mistake in avaiation if you make one.
"My mistake, Jet 882." Well, it least he wasn't just in a hurry, channeling Captain Jacob Veldhuyzen van Zanten of KLM flight 4805.
Every air traveler should be lucky enough to get a pilot professional enough to admit their mistakes - just after they nearly kill every passenger!
Tenerife. 583 people died.
Hardly 'yelling'. THIS! is YELLING!!!
She’s hella annoyed. ATC’a are trained to be super calm in their voice so this was pretty much yelling for an ATC.
Ouch! My eardrums!
I'm not yelling. YOU'RE YELLING.
taking off without clearance(because of a frustrated captain) caused the biggest loss of life many years ago.. one would think they learned from doing the same mistake..
The Tenerife incident.
ATC didn’t need to ask “What are doing?”; she should have just told him firmly to “Stop! Hold short! You are NOT cleared- repeat NOT cleared!”
Yeah that was really annoying and uncalled for. It's a big lack of professionalism, but more importantly a lack of self-control when you just blurt the first panic thing out that pops into your head over the radio. It really shows that you cannot keep your calm under pressure, and that wasn't even real pressure.
He was already airborne. Better to not create a hazard to safety if there already is none.
@@N238E lmao what? He was not airborne at all. Did you even listen to the same thing we did?
He clearly only rolled a tiny bit, because right after she asked if he was still good to take off from where he was at and then she gave him take off clearance. If he was already in the air they would have been giving him altitude, headings, etc.
@@N238E nobody is losing their calm. Just listen to the radio, and don’t say nonsense.
He was already in the air
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In my extremely limited experience (listening to ATC as a hobby) I’ve never heard a controller say “line up and wait (for traffic)” it’s always just “line up and wait”
So did he just think he could wait for traffic?? And clear himself for takeoff? Surely he didn’t. Even I know you don’t start takeoff roll until you specifically hear “cleared for takeoff”
Not putting atc at fault by any stretch. Just thought it was weird she said “wait for traffic”
All considered I’m betting he just forgot about the “line up and wait” instructions.
You make an excellent point. Communication is strictly key in dangerous jobs like this.
People have a natural ability to overlay too much dialogue when K.I.S.S. works better
John I want you to get the groceries and don't forget to get milk. But be sure not to buy the 2% milk from brand-X anymore. I like the other one called brand-Y
Or just say:
Get brand-Y 1% milk and all other groceries on the list.
John probably stopped listening to you at "don't forget the milk" and only remembered the first brand you said and only heard you say 2% lol
@@nomore-constipation Looks like u took 10 minutes to write that, we get it man...
@@magic3646 That was his point.
@@magic3646 ... and you took the time to be insulting. Thanks troll
@@nomore-constipation insult? when did I insult you? seem a bit mad 😂
i think the callsign is gammajet882.
isnt that "wheels up"?
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It was a situation like this that led to a disastrous collision by a Lufthansa air liner hitting a PanAm plane on the runway in the Canary Islands decades ago killing 3-400 people. Junior copilot realized mistake was being made but kept quite because he was afraid of highly experienced senior pilot.
1. it was an KLM plane, not Lufthansa
2. about 580 people died
3 or 400 seems like a pretty big discrepancy
oohhh Fio2go just schooled you son. Better luck next time @macguy
How did you manage to get the information about the Tenerife collision so wrong?
@@nathanw9770 either has aspergers or genuinely is a troll
He got super lucky she could have violated him but me thinks it’s the bravo buster that got a type rating
That’s an aborted takeoff which he had to report to the company so that it could report to the FAA. Hopefully Wheels Up has an ASAP program.
Stayed for the "Possible pilot deviation", left without it!
bro thinks he is on a casual server 😂
Way to go ATC.
Right on.. friggin amazing by both.
That was a friendly yell, like a child making a mistake
I’m sure he got a notification on his record for this boneheaded move.
Wait, possible pilot deviation and no number to call? Why? This is bothersome to me. Those who know, please reply. Not a pilot or ATC, but seems this should have been a bigger deal.
Any word on whether Harrison Ford was at the controls?
Shut up
Unlikely, since this is on a runway, not taxiway😏
@@qiyuxuan9437 not on the golf course
I think he just fly toy planes now
882 sound like he's hot-boxin in that plane.
Plot twist. Pilot simply said "f*ck this! I'm out!" 😂
That wasn't yelling. Plus, the worst aviation disasters happened due to initiating a takeoff without ATC clearance, most notably the Tenerife disaster.
Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 25 Jul 22.
Harry Reid? What happened to McCarran?
Was that a KLM pilot? It’s like Tenerife all over again
Without the 583 deaths
Lol you know they busy when you screw up and don't even have to take a number down
This could have ended in a clusterfuck of massive proportions, ATC AND that pilot should thank their lucky stars no one died because of this.
The type of mistake that could have mass casualties
It's been a while for me but I thought it was "taxi into position and hold."
That went away 15+ years ago
@@davew1134 like I said, it's been a while for me.
So 882 taxied halfway down the runway & stopped, like car drivers on interstate ramps?
"That's my mistake, ready to copy the number, Jet 882..."
“Jet 882 please write this number down and give them a call”
I used to dislike the phraseology of "departure" for everything else besides "cleared for takeoff" but soon I realized it was a very smart thing. Now if I'm on a commercial flight and the crew accidentally say takeoff on the intercom (usually international crew) it bothers me as that word has no place anywhere except once on the command and once on the readback.
In some country he would have got a public flogging
She's definitely going to want to speak with his manager.
The pilot repeated line up and AWAY... and she said line up and WAIT... but no one caught him repeating AWAY cause that sounded so similar... but if he wouldn't have been so tired he would have been like wait they are supposed to say CLEARED FOR TAKE OFF
I got chewed out by the Chief Pilot of my flight school after I ignored tower to extend my up wind leg to come in behind a plane entering downwind direct. I cut him off. Boy did I get chewed out. And received additional instruction on circuit procedures! Thankfully I did not get the phone number but I learned my lesson! Radio Comms are super critical and you NEED to be VERY CLEAR and be a very good listener! Whew!
If I was him I would start writing my report of account on the way to destination.
Was this the same lady ATC who had a stroke while working in the tower several years ago? If it is, I’m glad that she made a full recovery.
How much trouble are they in ?
882 is the guy that runs to be first at lunch in high school.
Idk if it looks clear may as well just take off. No one will notice. Makes perfect sense
Did I miss something, isn’t the plane supposed to be noticed before it’s actually off the tarmac?
You looking at the right plane? The small king air ended up stopping in the middle of the runway after being told he wasn't clear for takeoff yet
2:04
He was not cleared 😔 😪. Too many drinks the night before.
Professional term is "FUCK IT TAKE-OFF"
Now that's some serious mistake by the Captain
Harry Reid airport? Where the heck is that? The video looks like it came from McCarran.
McCarren was renamed for Harry Reid some years ago. It’s the same airport in Las Vegas.
@@stever7157 Yuck.
what! I'm confused she said 882 you were not cleared for take off what are you doing he replied 882 my mistake.isn't that his plane there showing flying away? then why is she still talking to him to hold his position if hes already in the sky? did I miss something?
Yes, you missed something. The offender was flying a King Air.
They were already inn the air when twr noticed their departure?
No that was a different plane
Just didn't want to wait.
MOST polite “yell” I’ve ever heard..
Oops is the last thing you want to hear from the pilot...
And sometimes it is!
One other thing you don't want to hear from the cockpit, "AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!"
We introverts prefer apologising later rather than asking for permission
He's like im playing gta i can do whatever i wanna buy im about to fly this plane
where was the yelling at?
Sigma rule #307: let no one tells you when to take off
Which plane was it that took of without permission, as I see it it was the American B737
Jet 882, the little citation or whatever that thing is.
I always turn on the landing lights with a take off clearance
THAT is smart. Im a new private pilot and im going to make sure I do that. Thank you
@@thepilotmaster777 Turn your landing light on anytime you are in the pattern too
Umm that was a severely delayed ATC response to something like that
The video doesn’t match the audio, it was a different plane that took off and “882” was off camera
Is he fired in your opinion?
Wouldnt this be reported as Pilot Deviation? ATC doesnt mention anything?
Got problem, stop lights needed
If I was ATC, I would ask the pilot to landing back ASAP, and give him a call with accident paper to fill. Haha
Man if that is considered yelling I am truly a horrible parent
She was being condescending "what are you doing "
@@rad9541 Asking what he's doing is being condescending?
@@hislord1 yes
@@rad9541 Fragile masculinity.
It's "Gamma Jet" (WheelsUp) not "Jet" - the stream clips the first part of the transmissions. 🙄 Even more ironic, it's not even a jet rather it's a King Air.
That was not yelling.
"Jet 882 you were not cleared for take-off, what are you doing?"
*"I missed the part where that's my problem"*
"But we didn't tell you to, and the other planes-"
*"Gonna cry?"*
*Gets shot out of the sky by fighter jets*
Where is the yelling hello.
At least he didn't pull an Indiana Jones and land on a taxiway lol.
In such case the pilot is penalized? Cz this can result in an accident. I'm not an expert but if he's not cleared for take off there might be some movement going on already
“Jet 882 stop” would’ve been the more concise, proper call. Not the time to explain “you weren’t cleared for takeoff” and ask “what are you doing?”.
A JET pilot making that indefensible error!???
Sky looked clear to me.
Ok im going to the comments to try to learn abit more details.