Thanks Ryan for the info. I have a large lot in the city of Cypress and the city was interpreting the height limit to the top of peak as opposed to some jurisdictions that allowed top of the mud plate. Our city planner is very open to new info and she did think they would adopt AB 2221's provision for the additional 2 feet to allow for a pitch. I was just about to submit plans for a 1 story ADU that was going to have some crazy walls. This info has saved me thousands of $.
Love to hear that. It's really typical for cities to measure from grade to the top of the ridge plate or other variations. These new laws should help a lot of people in exactly your situation!!!
Can a homeowner builder get this adu monies. I’ve asked CALHFA In the past and they said you have to hire a licensed contractor to get the grant. Is that still true?
@@tessawoodmansee465 When I wrote to CalHFA, there was no requirement to hire a licensed General Contractor (GC). But at the same time, every approved entity AT THAT TIME was requiring a licensed GC as part of their program. One entity, HPP CARES, which launched after that inquiry, has allowed self-managed projects which look to be owner-builder without a licensed GC. It's notable that even owner builders usually work with licensed contractors (just not necessarily generals).
I am a house plans designer in Orange County, and your videos have been extremely helpful and informative in navigating the nuances and the roadblocks that jurisdictions have been throwing at me in design of ADU's. Thank you, Ryan!
Great video, Ryan. Very informative and I was laughing at the "who is building a unit without a bathroom" part. I especially like the 18ft change, the 60 day clarification, and the 'provide the full list of reasons for denial' change.
City of Anaheim denied me 2 story adu because my house is a single story. So your saying now they have to let me since I live 0.4 Miles from major transit ?? I just submitted for a 1 story Adu but will scrap if I can build two story. So just double checking. City cannot deny me now? Right? 🙏🏼🙏🏼 thank you for your videos.
I need a lot more detail before I can tell you about your specific project. Broadly speaking though, properties that are .4 miles walking distance from this very specific definition of major transit, will have a maximum height of 18 feet instead of 16 starting on January 1st. I strongly recommend sharing the law (and this video) with your city planner and architect and figuring out what's possible before scrapping what you've already got worked up. But lots of people will benefit from adjusting the plans after Jan 1 :)
@@HowToADU thank you so much. I called yesterday and they had no idea about these laws🤣glad to bring them to light. They told me call back in 3 weeks. Thank you for your hard work!!
Could you please ask your invited guest when JADUs in attached garages will drop the owner occupancy requirement? This was left off the final bill SB 897.
Last year 2021 I went to the City of Hesperia 92345 (very rural; almost everyone in septic tanks) they said they did not acknowledged the new ADU law. Now, they are saying I must be connected to sewer to be permitted to build ADU and they want 40K for impact fees. I have 1/2 acre and one 1,200 sq ft home. The city is just like a mafia.
Sewer capacity is one of the things that can block an ADU project. If they're careful about limiting their rejection to a specific project for specific reasons that are allowed by state statute, it's tough to fight. But if they issue broad statements like your comment that say things like they don't acknowledge ADU law, or that ADUs MUST connect to sewer, or that they are charging $40k for impact fees for ADUs under 750 sq ft, then that is something you might want to report to the state.
@@HowToADU The lady at the office did say many people have been asking for ADU's permits. I think it was a way for them to blow off most of the people while they find a way to sink their teeth into these projects. It is Ok; we have to play their game in order to win. My main home is not connected to sewer; but now I am looking to purchase one that is-and build the ADU. Thank you for the reply. New Subscriber.
@@HowToADU I have a good update. The city finally adopted the provisions of SB9 and reading the municipal regulations it does say if not connected to sewer; and in lots of 1 acre of less; I can still build an ADU if I install a supplemental septic system. I can't be any happier. Cheers!
The city of West Covina, has now changed the planning code. If one has a converted garage, they will not allow an addition over 300 sq.ft unless a 2-car garage is built. They also require a min 20x20 interior area of an existing garage if you want to build an ADU or a JADU.
1) You are my ADU god :) 2) Probably no surprise: LA City, LA County & CA state have conflicting guidelines about all sorts of stuff. (Including max height for a 2-story ADU.) 3) Thoughts? Would u recommend my hiring an ADU expert -- a lawyer? -- who legit knows all the ins-and-outs? 4) I'm now gonna watch your vid: 2 Story ADU Q&A Much appreciated, Eric
Haha. Thanks. There are a lot of different directions you can go in. Some people say start with architect or experienced design builder. Others start with financing. I like to start with planning/HCD to figure out the various ways to accomplish your goals. You might dig our private community community.how-to-adu.com/how-to-adu
897 Has a portion which deals with retroactive permits. My planning department says still have to follow all building codes, etc. When I read the section it seems that they are not allowed to hold you to today's standard unless health and safety hazard. Any thoughts?
I'm not sure what you're saying exactly so I want to be careful. For new construction or to convert an existing structure into an ADU, you do need to follow building codes. The ADU section of the government code has some provisions now that will limit cities that want to require you to bring existing non-conforming structures up to code (that are NOT related to the ADU) in order to get the ADU permit. This is not legal advice for your specific situation.
Any further update on front setbacks? I live in Rancho Cucamonga and have a huge front yard and cited AB 2221 to the city in my initial meeting with the planner. The city took some time but came back with the interpretation that if I could fit the ADU in my backyard, which I could, then the city won’t allow the front yard ADU. Do you know of more resources or other cities that have interpreted this differently? Has there been any court cases interpreting this issue?
This is an interesting case. Have you expressed to the city that you cannot afford to put an ADU in the back or some other practical thing preventing you from completing the project? In any case, you should ask the HCD for technical assistance and see their position. I can’t give specific advice for your project. Other cities do interpret this differently.
I have a 2 story house in Encinitas (n. San Diego) by the beach that I'd like to tear down the one car attached garage and build up a 2 story adu to match the house. Can I do that? Also, would the setback be the existing 10 feet from the neighbors fence or can I go 4 feet from the fence with a 2 story? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for watching - love knowing that people like you who are building a lot of these ADUs are keeping up to date with the best options for homeowners.
It’s a detached garage. Our architect is asking for an exception when submitting plans to the city. There are several 2 story houses around our single house so we’re trying to hopeful. We have no other real options to put an ADU. 🤞
thx. yes I have an architect & builder -- who did our existing home. I've asked them about the state, county & cities restrictions. The issue is: they're also getting incorrect info from the city. And I called LADBS (department of building & safety) -- and was told with authority I could only build 16 feet. So y'know... that happened. I guess I'm looking for a definitive unambiguous guideline... tho perhaps the best I can get is AB 221. Thoughts?
There’s a website where you can ask the state to look at your case. calhcd.service-now.com/csp?id=csm_sc_cat_item_public&sys_id=19d0846297794910edea398c1253af2a This form is how you officially request technical assistance. You want to include specific contact information for specific individuals in the planning department, as well as copies of the communications you’ve had so that the HCD can quickly see the specific wording the city is using. And you want to explicitly tell the HCD (in this form) that you are open to them using your specific project as an example (or tell them you want to stay anonymous and would rather they not use your specific project)
@@HowToADU happy friday. still haven't heard back from CALHCD... I actually read the bills myself yesterday... there's some "unclarity" re: setbacks. The way I read it local agencies must allow attached ADU's to extend beyond current R1 setback guidelines. But y'know, I'm no lawyer. Have any of the experts you've interviewed mention this interpretation?
@@ericalan5560 if the structure already exceeds the setback, that’s got a good argument for approval. Otherwise it’s generally a four foot side and rear setback and
Great video. Just subscribed. I am curious about laws regarding green house dome. I plan on building an unattached adu ( less than 800 square feet,) inside a 29 ft high dome/greenhouse. Allegedly, no permit required for greenhouse. If you make a video in the future, I would love for u to cover the weird and wonky ideas, such as mine. Thank u for the content. Wishing u health and prosperity ❤🎉
wow, that would be cool. So my understanding is that if I build an unpermitted greenhouse in California, it is exceedingly unlikely that it will be considered as a permanent dwelling. Ultimately, the local planning and building departments will tell you what you are allowed to do and whether its up to code for the use you have in mind! Not legal advice :)
Hi Ryan, I have a question. So, from what I have been able to research with the City of Livermore, they will allow an ADU in my parent's back yard of their two-story home. The city requires a 4' set back from all property lines, and since they are in a mass transit corridor, they said the height limit is 18'. So, I have two questions, first I thought I heard in one of your videos that with the 18' height limit their maybe an additional 2' for the roof, is this correct? Also, is the setback of 4' on the footing only? As I was wondering if I kept the setback on the foundation footing, could I add a pop out on the second floor to add more footage, or do I have to stay within 4' the entire height of the structure?
Thanks for the good questions. You should check with the planners about the height limits for that specific project! In general, if you're within the high quality transit corridor the state code says "(ii) A height of 18 feet for a detached accessory dwelling unit on a lot with an existing or proposed single family or multifamily dwelling unit that is within one-half of one mile walking distance of a major transit stop or a high-quality transit corridor, as those terms are defined in Section 21155 of the Public Resources Code. A local agency shall also allow an additional two feet in height to accommodate a roof pitch on the accessory dwelling unit that is aligned with the roof pitch of the primary dwelling unit." But there are lots of different regulations that can overlap so always work with the local agency about the specific situation you're in. For setbacks, this is another question to speak with the local planners about. It's very common for exterior structures without footings like stairs or awnings to be included in various setback calculations. It's also very common for the city to have stricter setback requirements on second floors than on ground floors. This is not legal advice for your specific situation - general information only.
Hello, Can I add a two unit ADU on top of and at the rear of my current garage? In essence I want to add a studio or 1 bedroom on the 1st floor and a 2bd on the 2nd story while leaving my current garage in tact.
I'm working with a client in the City of Yorba Linda. Last year they denied our attached ADU because they claimed the sf of the attached ADU should be considered an "addition" which triggers the Fire Sprinkler requirment. I'd love to know how this law regarding fire sprinklers might effect this case. It seems they ought to be unable to make this requirement but then again I argued the sf of an "addition" is all together, functunilly and legally, different than the sf of an ADU and as such shouldn't trigger it anyway... they disagreed and "aint noby got time for that" so they killed the project. Love the channel and thanks for all you do!
I'm in plan check and running into this problem with city. Plan is for a second story ADU over an existing garage which I planned to enlarge into existing side yard setback. They say I can have the second story with a 4' side setback but the existing garage setback has to remain because it is not a part of the ADU. Currently my side yard setback is 10ft, but they are also saying that it needs to be 11' because im going over 16ft in height. Help!
Its hard to understand exactly what’s going on without looking at some plans. Broadly speaking, if I am creating an ADU within the parameters of a statewide exemption (under 800 sq ft under the appropriate height limit, etc) then those setback rules are very restrictive and I’d ask the HCD to look at the project. If I’m not in that subdivision of statewide exemption, then it’s pretty typical for these kinds of restrictions to come up.
Hey Ryan. Hi from Los Angeles. According to my state senator's office, The Housing and Community Development Department is sifting thru complaints from both LA City & County re: the new laws. Yes, I'm unable to get HCDD to respond to my question... which is: My attached ADU plans follow the rules about total square footage & my existing garage's footprint. I'm trying to determine if the SECOND FLOOR of that ADU can extend beyond the existing footprint. (Think of 2 legos; the bottom one's a square, and the top one is a rectangle.) Any thoughts about any state department who'd talk to me? Cheers, Eric
Hi, have you used the HCD form to flag the issue? There's a lot more coaching available in my private community about this. But you can generally work through the form for free on your own here: calhcd.service-now.com/csp?id=csm_sc_cat_item_public&sys_id=19d0846297794910edea398c1253af2a In general, I have the most success when I propose a plan I think should be allowed based on local and state rules. Then, after being rejected, I talk to the local planners about why. And then, I bring it to the state. I try not to go straight to the state with broad hypothetical questions, without a rejection in hand. Although there are exceptions to that too ;)
Hello Ryan if I am trying to make a 2 stories adu in Los Ángeles city what should I do, I am zoned R2 and it’s a single family dwelling with a detached 2 car garage. I had a contractor tell me that’s not possible and one tell me everything’s possible what are your thoughts
I can’t give specific advice for your situation. Broadly, I recommend people talk to the local planning department about what they can do. If you ever feel like they’re blocking something that you should be able to do, talk to the state (HCD)
@@HowToADU thanks so much. I take from this it is the law of the land, regardless who knows it. If it is a state mandate, I guess there is no adoption process.
What info do you have on SB684? Small lot subdivision on a multifamily lot... I am considering subdividing a large multifamily lot in Palm Springs that has 2 structures currently on the property. Can I sell off some of the subdivided property without building a structure?
@@paulesquer1048 then it won’t benefit from a lot of the rules about converting existing space. We can dig into the details for your property to see what’s possible. Broadly, a lot of homeowners with one story homes should be able to get an above the garage ADU permitted, but there will be exceptions like if you’re closer that 4 feet from the property line, restrictive utility easements, FARs (if you mean 750 per floor), and so on.
The City of South Gate CA does not permit 2 story ADUs unless the primary (front) house is a two story. Does this legislation supercede the local attempt to do away with 2 story ADUs?
That's the intent of the state legislation. To, in 3 specific situations, supersede local ordinances to allow for 2 story ADUs. Now, that's my read and it's early - and every project has specific circumstances that need to be evaluated to figure out exactly how to apply the laws, but broadly that's what this is supposed to do. Also worth noting there are things the cities could do to mitigate this like put in ordinances that prevent SFH in that zoning from being taller than 1 story (which would mitigate the attached heigh limit) and decrease transit service (which is sad, but something that some rich neighborhoods will do to get their way).
Varies a ton based on the details. Highly recommend using our sponsor realm to get a free estimate and then hire them to do a scope of work and find multiple designers/builders to bid on the project. l.realmhome.com/how-to-adu Roughly speaking, most ADUs cost 6 figures all in. In the Bay Area, people are lucky to get a price that starts with a 2 as in $200k-$299k. Most projects I see end up all in around $300k. In So Cal, things tend to be about 20-30% less expensive but all in you're still very typically in the high 100's or low 200's. Occasionally, I see somebody complete a conversion for 5 figures all in and it's a bit of a miracle. I tell clients to budget for more and then throw a party if they make it out at that price.
Hello my father bought a duplex house in Compton California. And he has built another house in the back and a built in garage but they both have no permits or plans he passed away just shortly a year ago and I just got the news on how he had done. Is it possible for me to get that straightened out with the City without tearing down the house in the back and as well with built house garage ?your Videos are awesome and pretty much helpful
I’m sorry for your loss. Please keep safety in mind if anybody is currently living in those non conforming units. How the city handles it, really depends on the details. I’ve seen some people get a simple request to bring things up to code and a nominal fee. I’ve seen other people have to tear down structures. Get legal advice from a lawyer. Look up if there’s an amnesty program in the jurisdiction. Talk to local building inspectors on the phone about what the process is typically like.
Ryan, awesome as always! I really want to tell you our story with our permitted ADU OF 490 sq ft and the now almost 2YEAR DRLAY AND DENIAL BY OUR HOA and all the illegal BS happening here in San Elijo Hills of San Marcos CA! Do you think any of the changes are helping limit HOA’s from continuing to deny construction IE (as a “local agency” )!
Oh man. Places that end in "Hill". Don't get me started. Unfortunately, I think the new law will not broadly change the situation with HOAs. I could see an argument that the HOA has to move faster to approve or deny as a "permitting" agency. But I'm not sure if that's a sound argument or not. Having said that, there are a lot of things you can already do to push back on HOA denials and find a friendly OR UNFRIENDLY agreement. Most cases that I see delayed this long are delayed because they're not enforcing "objective" standards. Is that the case with you? Book a call with me if it is or join our private community.
@@HowToADU Thanks for your note. Would it be possible to chat? My wife and I are trying to find “the powers that be” in Sacramento who could actually do something about HOAs. To date, we haven’t found anyone who will listen. Thanks.
@@jeffhawkins3465 You can book 1-on-1 calls with the team here: how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking You might also get a lot out of our private community: community.how-to-adu.com/how-to-adu
Thanks Ryan! You have provided an excellent details on removing some of the most common thorns from invisible gray areas when it comes to ADUs. One thing I still can't hold a grasp is if my location permits for 18' high and I plan to build two story ADU, assuming I am planning to build 1000 sq ft that fits the required distance from back fence and my primary house, can I build second floor on top of 1000 sq fit ground floor with the same area? Or it must be 500 sq ft down stair and 500 sq ft up stair? I can't find this requirement anywhere. Thank you!
Thanks for watching. It depends on local planning department and local regulations. For example your local zoning might limit your ADU to 1000 sq ft habitable living space (so total over the living space of both floors). It might also limit you to a certain floor area ratio which combines the floors and includes unconditioned space. It might also have lot coverage limits which often do NOT count the sq footage of both floors but just the lot footprint. The details depend on your specific situation and a good architect will help. The local planners can answer these questions too
Can one have a storage room not heated or not Would that count in lot coverage? Or a square feet added in the ADU size ? I’m working on building 1000sf 2 bedrooms 2 bathrooms But like to have an extra room for storage to keep all my stuff tools and other stuff thanks for helping
I want to build an adu to my fourplex which is two story but I was told I needed to build it 6ft away an a max of 16ft… now woth this can I build it attached to my fourplex an avoid the 6ft away an maybe make it higher ??
Not quite. You should talk to your local planning department for your specific situation and bring them the text of the law. Generally speaking, I don't think there's a rule that says they have to allow you to do an attached ADU if you have multifamily dwellings on the property. If what you're describing as a fourplex has more than one unit that shares a wall, that's a multi-family dwelling. And then what you get to do is build TWO detached ADUs. The city is not required, in my understanding, to issue a permit for an attached ADU in that case. But two detached is pretty epic :) Next, if the multifamily dwelling (as defined above) is multistory, then your ADUs can be 18 feet high. Alternatively, if your multifamily dwelling is only one story, but you're within half a mile walking distance from a major transit stop, that could qualify you for 18 foot tall ADUs as well.
In Los angeles county, can I build a 2story ADU, with a patio roof? If I buy a latge single family home, permit it into a duplex... can I build 2 ADU's on the remainder of the lot, given it meets/exceeds the setbacks?
What I've read in the state statute does not specifically allow or prohibit that. You're going to want to talk to the county planning division about this question. I imagine a lot of cities and counties will be prohibiting this specific thing in the near future (if they don't already have an ordinance in place).
Hello Ryan. Thank you for all your content. Very helpful. I hit a wall today and I wonder if you have come across this scenario? I went to the City of Elk Grove building department and asked if I could build a 18' high ADU? He asked for my address and said well you are RD5 so in order to go to 18' you will have to have a 15' rear setback. Have you heard of this as being the case? I appreciate any information you can provide. Thank you, John
Thanks for watching John. This is not legal advice for your specific situation. Often times, the planners are looking at underlying zoning code instead of the ADU rules in the government code. Certain sections of the government code around ADUs make that underlying zoning code unenforceable under specific conditions. So it depends on your project. In past situations, I have read the rules about what buildings are allowed to go up to 18 feet, shown that code to the planners and asked if my property qualifies. If you think you should be permitted and the city is out of bounds, you can talk to the HCD too.
Hi Ryan, thank you always for explaining. I have an urgent question regarding SB897. I have an attached garage conversion done without permit. City told me to legalize it. So I submitted the plan for the permit. City responded back in 2022 that I need to demolish or legalize existing 3 patio structures (2 enclosed, one open). The patios have been there since I bought it. Now that it’s 2023 and I just read about SB897, can I petition the city to allow me to keep the patios since they are not a thread to public health and safety. Can sb879 apply to my case since I’m trying to get a permit to legalize the garage conversion to jadu? Only difference I see is I’m legalizing instead of creating a new jadu but it is still the process of getting the permit. Please let me know your thinking. Appreciate it!
You should get a lawyer and also get advice from HCD. From the sound of it, you may have submitted your application at a time when the city could require that. Not sure what your options will be.
@@HowToADU thank you Ryan! Yes when I first submitted it was before 2023 so the sb897 was not in effect. It’s been a lengthy permit process and I am still in process and I haven’t got permit yet but since it’s 2023 now I’d hope to be able to apply sb897.
Thank you so much for your videos. I have a question, an issue we are having with the city of Thousand Oaks. We have 3.8 acre property and we just finished construction in May (2022). It consists of a main house, a detached 600sf “guest house/cabana unit”, and a detached 897sf workshop. Each of the structures is 150’ away from the next. We want to convert the 897sf workshop into an ADU. The city planner recently denied our application because the workshop is closer to the front entrance of our property than our primary residence. Basically a front setback restriction. We argued that because it is an existing structure it does not have to meet that front setback requirement (as stated In the city’s own code). But they replied that Existing means existing as of when the law went into place which they say is Jan 1, 2020. This sounds wrong to us. It’s an existing legally permitted structure we just completed construction on this year. Nothing on the exterior would change. It’s sprinklered and designed to the same structural specs as the main home. Curious your thoughts.
Basically they are defining the word Existing as existing prior to 1/1/2020. In my mind (haha) existing means it exists now therefore it should fall under the exemption for existing structures.
Some cities have cleverly built in the date to their local ordinances. Whenever a city says something like that you should say "Oh thanks for explaining. Could you show me the specific part of the code that says that so I can read it and understand the context?" You'd be surprised how many times the answer is "Well it's not specifically in the code per se..." and other times it's pretty black and white but you can find an alternative by reading the lines above and below! I don't want to give you false hope, but with the context you've given here I think you have a lot of paths forward. It just depends how feisty you want to get with the city and how much you want to convert that unit. Thousand Oaks is an HOA right? So not really an SB 9 situation. But you could imagine writing to the HCD about your front setback argument. And you could imagine pushing harder with the city on that existing in January 2020 definition.
Wow thank you so much for such a quick reply! I hear you on being feisty. We are experienced in this area as it was a requirement to develop this property.😂 We are in the City of Thousand Oaks but our particular neigborhood does not have a restrictive HOA. We do have an HOA but they have no say over design or property use, their only function is to maintain the main road. I reached out to the city attorney weeks ago, after planning told us they would not approve our request, to get a definition of the word Existing and I have followed up a couple of times. The latest I heard was that he was in receipt of my messages and needed to discuss it with staff. I think this may be a new situation they have not seen. Guessing Not many people have constructed a non dwelling accessory structure in the past two years and now want to convert to an ADU. We had our reasons for this (pre 2020 city restrictions, financing restrictions of building a house with an ADU, etc). We’ll keep at it. There are likely other options to split the lot and tackle it that way, but that just sounds expensive and tedious and I’m so tired of dealing with the city😅.
Hmm, this is a bit more complicated than checking your zipcode. So you want to figure out what jurisdiction you're in and check the planning department for their broad rules. Some cities/counties have no height limit or use the underlying zoning code height limit, and then you might get to build quite tall - as tall as the main house, for example. Then you want to check the multiple categories for height limits in the state code, and that can vary based on how close you are to mass transit, and other structures already existing on the property. The answers vary a lot based on specific project details!
Really enjoy your commentary. Seeing if you have run across this one. We have a property that has a dethatched garage the crosses over a dashed assessor line or what was originally deeded property prior to the map act. The title report and assessor information is very clear on who owns the property, but the City (whom will remain nameless) wants a formal survey that sounds a lot like an ALTA survey to show all features and easements, to pay them $3700 to review and $600 to prepare a lot merger, perfecting deeds, letter from borrower it is ok, and pass around to everyone to review for their conditions! The property does not have curb and gutter or street lights... etc.. Also, there appears to be setback issues from the nonconforming uses that were added over many years. We have prepared a site plan and want to set down with them to argue the point. We have a JrADU in the main house and want to do a garage ADU that are at risk of approval. Thanks!
Unfortunately I have seen a lot of stories like this. If you are converting an existing building into an ADU, and they refuse to give you a permit until you complete the work you described, I think that you would want to share that refusal with the HCD along with documentation of what is going on. calhcd.service-now.com/csp?id=csm_sc_cat_item_public&sys_id=19d0846297794910edea398c1253af2a When you're filling it out, let the HCD know if they are allowed to use your specific case when speaking with the local agency, and include contact information for the specific people you have been working with.
A lot depends on the details. If you have two separate single family dwellings, they may likely limit you to one ADU. But there are other ways to build a second structure sometimes.
Wow your really good. .You explain things to where I could understand. Wish you had information for my State W.V. Senior Citizen could use the extra income..🌷
I just bought a multi family property. 2 separate houses 1 bedroom 1 bath each. In Berkeley ca. What are the chances to build 2 ADU's. Since there's 2 houses legally permitted?
Weirdly, some of the biggest difference will come from whether those 2 homes share a wall (making them a multi family dwelling) or not. Having said that, depending on what you've got in mind, you may be able to build 2 ADUs anyway. You should talk to your local planners, and if you face resistance, come back and chat with me. There could be a number of different paths to get you to multiple units.
Depends on the details. The state rules are pretty explicit about front setbacks not being enforceable if they would preclude the construction of a small ADU (under 800 sf). You should come to our live Q&A on Thursday and we can work it out community.how-to-adu.com/q-a-live-with-ryan-o-connell
when you get your house re-appraised after converting extra rooms into bedrooms, doesn't that also cause an increase in the property taxes? IMO unless selling or refinancing there's no point in getting it reappraised and in turn asking for a higher property tax bill. Anyone thinks it works differently in terms of taxes?
That's a great point - you'd definitely want to speak to the county tax assessor and your tax person to figure out the impact. In my friend's case, if he did it right before selling the house, it would make a lot of sense. Another situation where it might make sense is if the county tax assessor says they will only do an additional value assessment for the new space, rather than a reassessment of the overall property. There's a clip of the Sacramento assessor/appraiser talking about that process in his county here: ua-cam.com/video/-HKGAIzcKVg/v-deo.html
I have different recommendations depending on the project. Shoot me an email with what you're looking to do and what your priorities are and I can point you in the right direction. ryan@how-to-adu.com
Hi! I keep reading that San Diego County only lets you build one ADU and one JADU, but a close neighbor had his property approved for 3 ADUs, my engineer told me the same only one ADU. Any advice on how to get approved for more ADUs? we have both one acre and both single family zone
This video explains the circumstances where people generally get 2 ADUs and a JADU. Up to three accessory dwelling units in California on one single family lot? ua-cam.com/users/shortsfiYxXHoHpLQ?feature=share The city of San Diego also has bonus ADU rules based on affordability requirements.
You can use this link to book a call. www.how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking I’m also doing a webinar on Wednesday which is normally for my paid members only but this one is on me. howtoadu.podia.com/new-adu-laws-in-2023
I have a single story SFH with a detached 512sqft garage that's 10 feet away in the front lot. What are my options? Can I do JADU and ADU and or garage conversion or pump the house to create the 10ft addition to attach the garage with the house?
Fun! You have tons of options. It’s better to start with what you want to accomplish and then narrow in on the most effective ways to achieve that. Good candidate for a call: www.how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking
I think there are some changes in here about septic, but I'm not very savvy about this stuff. I just know to warn homeowners what you seem to already know. Septic improvements are a big expensive red flag!
Hello Ryan and appreciate the chance to ask a question. I thought there was an additional benefit to 2221 and it focused on front setbacks. I had heard they were allowing you to build closer to the street as long as it was attached to original building. Is there anything new with front yard setbacks?
Thanks for watching. Yeah, front setbacks have been explicitly added to the government code as one of the rules local agencies should not enforce if the ADU meets the requirements of a statewide exemption ADU. Having said that, I see cities taking a variety of creative stances on this so you may need to contact the local planners and HCD and work with them to get where you're going. To my knowledge, this is not generally related to whether the ADU is attached or not, but there may be specific situations where attaching to the existing structure gets you different setback requirements.
YOU ARE A GENIUS :) my question: I live in LA... but can't locate the city's height limit for an attached ADU. (That's the underlying zoning code, right?) thoughts? E
Yeah you want to find the city’s zoning map. LA will have a “GIS” map with a zoning layer. Then when you get your zoning code like R1-##### you will google the Los Angeles zoning ordinances about that zoning code and any other specific plan or special district you’re in.
@@HowToADU Got it. Another question: I'm selling a property and hoping I can avoid capital gains tax by building an ADU on our primary residence property. After clicking around, it seems this isn't allowable... tho after watching ur vids, it seems laws are still settling and gray. Thoughts? Agencies you'd pursue to get an answer? Thx. Eric
Sorry - I don't do tax stuff. I have seen clients do VERY impressive structuring with generational transfers, so if you're talking to a tax professional, that might be what you ask them about. For example, letting an heir build the ADU on your property while you still own the house and land. There are lots of ways to spend the money that have huge implications on your taxes/finances. Speak to licensed pros. Not me :)
Hi, I have 3 questions. I got an approved permit for building an ADU in the back of my existing house. The ADU's living area is 1200 square feet and I will be living in this new ADU after it has been built (my existing house will be rented out). My questions are: 1) The city's approved permit for my ADU requires me to install a 2520-Watt solar panel on the roof of my new ADU but my electric bill right now usually only costs me around $40 or less. If I move to the ADU later on, the electric bill will be about the same since I will be the only one living in the new ADU with my daughter. My question is since my approved permit requires me to install a solar panel on the roof of my new ADU, is it possible for me to request from the city to not install the solar panel for my new ADU? 2) Do I have to install a rain barrel for my new ADU as it is required by the city's approved permit? Can I request to the city not to install a rain barrel for my ADU? I'd rather not install the rain barrel since it will attract a lot of mosquitoes as told by my brother based on his experiences. 3) Do I have to install a fire sprinkler for my new ADU as it is required by the city's approved permit? Can I request to the city not to install a fire sprinkler for my ADU since I already have a fire hydrant in front of my property? Thank you for all the information! Your videos are really informative and helpful!
Probably you already gotten the answers for your questions since this is an old post. By the law any ADU above a 1000sqft requires a solar panel. For the rain barrels you can contact me I can advise you on that. Thanks.
So if I want an ADU, I can submit my complete plans and application to the city in Jan 2023, and they are required to issue a permit in 60 days, or give me a full list of why my application is unsatisfactory, correct? That is MUCH faster than what the city of Los Altos is presently doing.
That is what the statute says. Our lawyer friends aren't sure exactly how we'll get enforcement there, but it certainly gives you a reason to write a very strongly worded letter. And rather importantly, it is expanded to other agencies now. So the dreaded utility delay can also trigger a strongly worded lawyer letter :D
Do it! :) In California it’s perfectly allowed. You want to learn about the financial lending and appreciation/depreciation (which isn’t my specialty). But they’re a great way to build more homes.
I’m trying to purchase a multi unit way up in Mendocino, three houses and one manufactured home. It is proving nearly impossible to get a lender to not be squeamish about the manufactured home!! It does seem some will consider if on a concrete perimeter, permanent foundation!! I’d recommend talking to a few lenders, so that you don’t find yourself with a property that would be difficult to sell in future.
Hi Ryan, you are a life saver...so much so that I subscribed to your channel because there is so much I need to learn from you! I have a question regarding the new laws with respect to 3-D printed models. Do you know if the new State laws supersede municipal laws on 3-D printed (or any other model that is delivered fully assembled)? I live in Poway, CA and our county just LOVES to use the word "no". Can you direct me to any of your videos that might specifically address this issue? Thank you very much!
Thanks for watching and subscribing! I can't give specific advice for your project. Broadly speaking, ADUs have to be built up to code to be habitable and your local building department is going to do inspections to make sure that a project meets code requirements. Unconventional construction methods can often complicate that inspection process. 3D Printing companies use a wide range of strategies to meet code compliance - some like Mighty Buildings were actually 3D printing around conventional steel frame structures with insulation. Other companies that are 3D printing with cement/aggregate are meeting normal code requirements and the method of delivery being a 3D printer nozzle is sort of irrelevant. If I were trying to find an answer, I'd pick a specific company and ask them what construction documents I can use to show my local planning and building department that I will be up to code. And then I'd start the conversation with the locals, armed with those documents to answer questions.
I called the city planner. It was horrible on zoom not person. Rather be person. Because this City Planner did not know any of these laws. Said I could not even build ADUs but said I could Split the Lots. I SMH.. He told me to call Housing Department. Who do you talk to get this ball rolling? I can build up to 6-8 Units. I have my own street. One Neighbor and the other side is a Freeway. a bit over a 3rd of an Acre too! Seems like it be perfect to make more homes for L.A.
You can book an informational call with us here: www.how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking but it’s important to communicate well with that planner! The best thing may be to send the HCD’s ADU handbook to the planner and highlight sections you think support your project. If you have multiple lots, that’s a great approach. If you have one big lot then you may want to look into the limitations of putting so many units on one property without a split. The planner may have been giving you accurate advice.
I wish it were easier to answer online. But just to prove that I'm not being coy, I looked up Fremont's zoning code. And there's a place called Glenmoor Gardens that appears to only allow single story residential. So if for example you have a property in Glenmoor Gardens, then no you cannot build a 2 story attached ADU. There are a dozen other exceptions I could imagine so it's impossible for me to answer broad questions like this! But most of Fremont allows 2 story primaries in the underlying zoning code. So most of the lots in Fremont with a house on them, can now build 2 story attached ADUs as long as they respect the 4 foot side and rear yard setback and other ADU rules.
I intend to add a 400sqft addition to an existing 540sqft addition built in 2007. The 400 will have a bathroom, washer and dryer hook up, bedroom. The 540 has a kitchen installed when the addition was built. I intend to open up a window to join the new ADU 400 to the 540 to use the kitchen. Ryan will the ADU be considered a 940 total ADU or a 400sqft ADU the new addition. In Moreno Valley anything over 499sqft will have a Impect Fees trying to avoid. I intend to build after I get the OK from the HOA. then will proceed with the rest of the process. Ryan Thank You for all you do👍👍👍
You can propose a 400 sq ft ADU, attached to the existing structure and see what the planning department says. Generally speaking, I'm not surprised when they require a firewall between the attached ADU and the existing structure which would complicate things but still be feasible. If they come back and say that the 540 sq ft needs to be counted to the ADU for some reason, I always ask them for their reasoning and ask if they can show me the specific city ordinance that they're using for their decision so that I can get all the context and do a good job with my corrections ;)
HELLO RYAN, GREAT VIDEO..... I HAVE A 2 UNIT SINGLE STORY DUPLEX, WITH TWO ONE CAR GARGES IN BETWEEN, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CONVERT. I AM WITHIN 1/2 MILE FROM A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, CAN I BUILD A 2 STORY ADU IN THE GARAGE SPACE, WHILE THE ACTUAL PROPERTY IS A SINGLE STORY? ALSO, DOES THE 18 FOOT HIGHT INCLUDE THE ROOF PITCH?
Hi I just saw this - you can speak to your local planning department about your specific situation and your question. I have many clients who plan to ask for 2 story ADUs because they're within half a mile from major public transit stops. The 18 foot height limit is measured differently in different jurisdictions and often varies based on roof type.
Very Helpful Video. Thank you! If I build 2 ADUs on top of each other, do you know if they could be 800 square foot each without abiding to any Zoning parameters? Or would it be 800 square feet total for the 2 Adu's (400 each)?
Different cities are calling this one differently. So for example, if you have a multi family dwelling and get to build 2 detached ADUs, and the city has an FAR limit on the lot, some cities are saying you only get the first 800 sq ft of ADU exempted. So 1 800sf ADU, or 2 400sf ADUs (for example). Other cities are interpreting this to mean each detached ADU can have 800sf exempted. Stacked or detached from each other makes no difference in this hypothetical because it's FAR and the second floor also counts towards floor area. But if the limit were open space requirements, stacked could avoid counting the second story square footage against the requirement. Hope that makes sense - this is a hard one to explain in comments.
@@HowToADU Thank you! My particular case is in Oakland. Do you know how they think about that? 2 stacked ADU's in the back of a 4-plex. My zoning who not allow this, so both ADU's would need to be exempt from Zoning parameters compliance in order for it to work out.
@@oliverdavis4835 I'm pretty sure that's where the last case I heard about was. If memory serves, a lawyer from Holland & Knight spoke about it at a public comment for a zoning update commission in 2021. around the time I filmed this: ua-cam.com/video/tO9bBNf6w_U/v-deo.html If you dig through the ZUC video from Oakland right after you might find the public comment. Broadly, if I remember correctly, Oakland was saying first 800 sq ft only. And H&K was gently letting the city know they'd go to court over it. I can't be sure though - it was a while back. And things can change too. Oakland passed new ordinances since then.
I don’t know what I’d do without your videos (read *and* understand the laws?! Yeah right!) We are in SF and have a 700sqf detached garage at the rear of our lot that has basically zero setback on all three sides. We would like to build an ADU on top. How do we determine the approximate building envelope allowed?
SF is complicated. There is a pre application meeting you can get that is helpful for complicated projects. Otherwise check this out: sf.gov/topics/accessory-dwelling-unit-adu One of the things that comes up a lot in SF is the ADU needs to be accessible without going through the front house or a garage. This is a red flag issue I’d you can’t do it around the side. Otherwise, I expect that most can convert the existing structure exactly as is - and bump it out to add to the envelope (but the additions need to be set back 4 feet and conforming). Talk to your planning department for real advice - this is just general info. If you get overwhelmed call me www.how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking
Im in a city that has rejected 2nd story ADUs (over an ATTACHED garage) due to the local agencies "2nd story setback rule". They said I cant go over 16 feet, and since the ADU is over the garage (above 16 feet) they must use the 2nd story setback. Does this law now mean that I can go over my garage (under 25 feet total, main house is 26 feet), and I can use the 4 foot rear and side yard setbacks for this 2nd story? AND leave my garage a garage? Or do I need to make it a 2 story ADU and use the garage as the 1st floor??
Broadly speaking, the law should protect what you’re describing. The law sets out a maximum height for the structure containing the ADU to be 25 feet in the situation you’re describing. So it doesn’t say that has to be a two story ADU.
Hi Ryan. I have a 5 bdrm 4 bath house 3k sqfi. Like to covert 1room into small kitchen. Have 2bdrm Jr adu. Any conditions regulations I need to know? Also would that add increase in property tax and if so how is it calculated?
Sounds cool! I would need a lot more information to answer but there are almost definitely lots of regulations you need to know about!!! And your county tax assessor will want to issue a new assessment for the parts of the house that you convert, and any new construction. Contact the tax assessor for their exact methodology
The statute says half a mile walking distance for this clause. Clever architects sometimes find ways to summarize the project convincingly as a half mile from a major transit stop with a nice site map attached. I'm reminded of those Family Circus comics with the dotted lines showing where the kids walked :D Having said that, there are other forms of transit that qualify as major transit stops, and high quality corridors. And the city can plan to move and modify transit stops so it's not fixed in stone right? There are also 2 other ways to get the 18 feet, so explore all your options! This isn't advice for your specific situation - just general information.
@@HowToADU thank you so much for your response! Would you happen to have the other two options. Ive heard people talk about them but I for some reason cant seem to understand them
Good question. Ask the planning department about your specific situation. This is not legal advice. Broadly speaking, the state statute doesn't have anything to say about requiring all the floors of a structure to belong to the same unit. The way the height rules are framed, the state says a city can set the maximum building height for the structure containing the ADU. So I would imagine a friendly city planning department would let a homeowner get a permit for a second floor ADU on top of a primary unit or on top of another ADU (if you're allowed two ADUs). Or on top of an SB 9 unit. I could also imagine an unfriendly planning department finding lots of ways to obstruct this.
Hi Ryan, I have a 2500 sq/ft mix use lot in san bruno about 10 mins walk to train station. Do any of these changes will allow me to build a residential or mix use property without parking requirements?
You have incredibly informative videos. Thank you! Question... I have a detached 2-car garage that the outside wall is actually my neighbors fence so literally on the property line. I want to convert it to an ADU, but still retain a small portion of it for my own storage. My preference is to keep the yard side as my storage and the neighbors side as the ADU because that side also has a large patio area adjacent to it, etc. Can I? I am concerned about that 4' distance that is needed.
You should talk to your local planning department. Having said that, cities generally can't enforce setback rules if a homeowner is converting an existing structure. There's more information about this in the HCD's ADU handbook
@@HowToADU Thanks for such a quick reply! I've downloaded the handbook and am binge watching your videos. :) I'm concerned I'm at the tail end of the grant funds and they're going to be gone before I get my ducks in a row. I heard Katherine say re: application process that there is a place to submit the plans. Are plans required before applying for the grant?
@@orvickkelly That's a tough one for me to answer because the program requirements vary by entity and they keep changing their processes. Your best bet is to communicate directly with HPP CARES or CCEDA or whichever entity you're using to qualify for the grant. Fingers crossed for you!
I would be interested in learning more about t916. Like your friend - I have 3100 sq foot house that was used as an office for the last 20 years. I have converted it back to residential, have 6 bedrooms, but technically, none of them are bedrooms as it is listed as "office space". Can I use 916 to get it re-zoned?
You could potentially use 916 to convert rooms into up to 2 bedrooms without a public hearing. You should call the planning department though and see if they have other paths to getting this done. You might be surprised at how easy the process is to get all 6 rooms up to code as bedrooms on your listing. And then 916 is your backup plan.
Thank you Ryan! Your videos are super helpful for navigating the ADU process. Is there anywhere you know of to join a waitlist to hear more about Help Homeowners Add New Housing once it's created? Thank you!
I’ll do a Followup on that but the actual bill (561) died in committee. But they made some recommended budget changes like extra funding -$50M will likely go to the ADU grant
Great video, Ryan. Question about that front setback.. does that mean an ADU can be built at the front of the property? For some reason I thought it had to be behind the main home? Have I had it wrong or did something change? Thanks!
Thanks for watching - your channel is slick too :) Broadly speaking, nothing in the California state rules says ADUs have to be behind the house. Even in the current/old rules. But some jurisdictions have design restrictions that prevent people from putting ADUs in their front yard (like front setbacks). These will still exist after January 1, 2023. But front setbacks specifically won't be enforceable if the ADU meets some other requirements, mainly that it's under 800 sq ft and within the proper height and side setback limits. There are also some jurisdictions that say "you can't put the ADU in front of the house" and it is an open question whether this will conflict with the HCD's interpretation of the state rules around front setbacks. At least from my reading - but I'm just a dude on UA-cam. Lastly, it's worth mentioning that some jurisdictions incentivize building in the back. And that's still A okay too. So for example, in Sacramento, if you build way back from the road, you can build much closer to the side and rear lot line. That's a really sweet incentive to build in the back even though you may be technically able to build in the front. Hope that helps.
@@HowToADU Thanks! And thanks for the additional information. I have a strange little spot at the front of my yard I've always thought would be perfect for a small ADU. Maybe now I can look into making it happen with less pushback.
My property is at R-15 zone. A 2nd until was permitted in the 80s. At first they first they said my property is “multiple buildings” and can have a ADU. Now they changed their mind and said i can cause the 2nd unit is the same as an ADU. Any thoughts? Do you think new laws will allow 2 ADUs on one lot regardless the type of zoning?
I have a sfr that sits on a lot allows for a duplex. My idea is to build the duplex then adu after. Do any of these changes allow me to do that at the same time? City planner tells me i need to build the duplex first then i could do adu. Do you know of any ways around that?
It’s hard to give specific advice without knowing the lot and seeing the planners response. Broadly speaking multi family and single family both have the ability to permit an adu so the objection makes no sense even with the current code, unless I’m missing something. You should consider joining my private group where I coach people on how to work with the city to get through permitting. howtoadu.podia.com/how-to-adu
Thanks for the question Jaime, but we can't give specific advice without a LOT more information. Your planning department is a great place to get information about your specific project. Please prioritize safety! Things that will matter a lot: Is the unit safe? Is there currently a tenant? Is the unit up to code and can an inspector see that during a visit? What is your current metering setup? Is the unit attached, detached, or the conversion of an existing space? Good luck finding out everything.
Great video, Ryan, thanks. Do you know if the Coastal Commission processing (CDP, waiver, or exemption) also falls under the " Y'all got 60 days" rule?
I'm not sure how this will work out. The amended definition of permitting agency is "any entity that is involved in the review of a permit for an accessory dwelling unit or junior accessory dwelling unit and for which there is no substitute, including, but not limited to, applicable planning departments, building departments, utilities, and special districts." But the statute still also has a carve out for the CC "Nothing in this section shall be construed to supersede or in any way alter or lessen the effect or application of the California Coastal Act of 1976 (Division 20 (commencing with Section 30000) of the Public Resources Code), except that the local government shall not be required to hold public hearings for coastal development permit applications for accessory dwelling units."
I am confused about adding an attached ADU to a single family house. Is this allowed? I keep seeing conflicting information. Some comments seem to be doing this but isn't there a rule about only adding 150' for ingress and egress? Basically I want to add 650' and attach it to my house. Can I do this?
Thanks for watching Darren. You want to go back to the older videos about the basic rules before watching updates like this about the new changes. Broadly speaking, you can build attached ADUs or “bump outs” in California. Generally cities will have a maximum size like 50% of the primary or 1000 sq ft for a 2 bedroom. See your planning department for the rules and how they apply to your specific property. There are even more rules that could affect your project like FAR or open space requirements. So I can’t tell you if your specific property can do the attached ADU you’re proposing. And lastly the 150 for egress thing is usually about JADUs where you’re using the existing primary structure.
I think I answered this somewhere, but just in case... the SB 9 statute doesn't have specific language about minimum lot width and depth. In my eyes, it implies that cities will actually have a hard time enforcing lot width and depth requirements that preclude lot splits. Having said that, some local jurisdictions have implemented lot width and depth requirements, as well as other requirements about flag lots or front and back lot splits. So you really want to figure out what your local agency is doing and what your appetite to fight is.
Ah, showing up with the hard questions. As I say in the video, it's not SUPER clear to me that cities have to allow 18 feet ADUs near mass transit when the underlying zoning code doesn't allow any homes over one story. I mean, that's what the statute seems to say, but I wouldn't want to fight that fight before hearing state guidance in support. Personally. When it comes to CC&Rs I think it's even tougher. The statute clearly redefines the statewide exemption ADU (under 800 sq ft, 4 ft side and rear setback, under max height - which could be really tall). But I think it's only a matter of time before an HOA brings this to court. Will YOUR HOA bring you to court? Who knows? Ask a lawyer :) Doing a webinar about this on Wednesday and this would be a fun one to talk about. howtoadu.podia.com/new-adu-laws-in-2023
Yeah I think another commenter agreed that they can still give ministerial comments about objective requirements. They just can’t require approval or hearing at a planning commission, city hall or other public hearing.
More detail on the blog: www.how-to-adu.com/adu-articles-blog/new-adu-laws-in-2023 “For purposes of this section, a high-quality transit corridor means a corridor with fixed route bus service with service intervals no longer than 15 minutes during peak commute hours.“ “A major transit stop is as defined in Section 21064.3, except that, for purposes of this section, it also includes major transit stops that are included in the applicable regional transportation plan“ “Major transit stop” means a site containing any of the following: (a) An existing rail or bus rapid transit station. (b) A ferry terminal served by either a bus or rail transit service. (c) The intersection of two or more major bus routes with a frequency of service interval of 15 minutes or less during the morning and afternoon peak commute periods. I haven’t found a definition for “Peak commute hours” in the statutes. I think these are defined at the local level in some jurisdictions. And otherwise, the MTC (Metropolitan Transportation Commission) puts it at 6-10am and 3-7pm (similar to the carpool lane rules).
There's special building code requirements for ingress/egress and fire safety and other elements when you build multifamily structures like this. Talk to experienced, licensed architects and builders, and your local city planners about your options. They will collect information about your specific project and tell you what you can do. Broadly speaking, it is possible to propose a structure with separate units on the first and second floor. In some cases those can both be ADUs (for example if you're converting an existing
Thanks Ryan for the info. I have a large lot in the city of Cypress and the city was interpreting the height limit to the top of peak as opposed to some jurisdictions that allowed top of the mud plate. Our city planner is very open to new info and she did think they would adopt AB 2221's provision for the additional 2 feet to allow for a pitch. I was just about to submit plans for a 1 story ADU that was going to have some crazy walls. This info has saved me thousands of $.
Love to hear that. It's really typical for cities to measure from grade to the top of the ridge plate or other variations. These new laws should help a lot of people in exactly your situation!!!
Can a homeowner builder get this adu monies. I’ve asked CALHFA In the past and they said you have to hire a licensed contractor to get the grant. Is that still true?
@@tessawoodmansee465 When I wrote to CalHFA, there was no requirement to hire a licensed General Contractor (GC). But at the same time, every approved entity AT THAT TIME was requiring a licensed GC as part of their program. One entity, HPP CARES, which launched after that inquiry, has allowed self-managed projects which look to be owner-builder without a licensed GC. It's notable that even owner builders usually work with licensed contractors (just not necessarily generals).
I am a house plans designer in Orange County, and your videos have been extremely helpful and informative in navigating the nuances and the roadblocks that jurisdictions have been throwing at me in design of ADU's. Thank you, Ryan!
Happy to hear it! Did you see Orange County is doing some kind of adu incentive program? Was supposed to launch last month.
Thanks for this post! Grateful for UA-cam!
Great video, Ryan. Very informative and I was laughing at the "who is building a unit without a bathroom" part. I especially like the 18ft change, the 60 day clarification, and the 'provide the full list of reasons for denial' change.
City of Anaheim denied me 2 story adu because my house is a single story.
So your saying now they have to let me since I live 0.4
Miles from major transit ?? I just submitted for a 1 story
Adu but will scrap if I can build two story.
So just double checking. City cannot deny me now? Right?
🙏🏼🙏🏼 thank you for your videos.
I need a lot more detail before I can tell you about your specific project. Broadly speaking though, properties that are .4 miles walking distance from this very specific definition of major transit, will have a maximum height of 18 feet instead of 16 starting on January 1st. I strongly recommend sharing the law (and this video) with your city planner and architect and figuring out what's possible before scrapping what you've already got worked up. But lots of people will benefit from adjusting the plans after Jan 1 :)
@@HowToADU thank you so much. I called yesterday and they had no idea about these laws🤣glad to bring them to light. They told me call back in 3 weeks. Thank you for your hard work!!
@@roseannsanchez7881 hehe, yeah, I like to stay ahead of the curve ;D
curious how this ended up!
@@roseannsanchez7881 did you get an update?
Could you please ask your invited guest when JADUs in attached garages will drop the owner occupancy requirement? This was left off the final bill SB 897.
This is a GREAT question for Louis Mirante who will be at the webinar.
Last year 2021 I went to the City of Hesperia 92345 (very rural; almost everyone in septic tanks) they said they did not acknowledged the new ADU law. Now, they are saying I must be connected to sewer to be permitted to build ADU and they want 40K for impact fees. I have 1/2 acre and one 1,200 sq ft home. The city is just like a mafia.
Sewer capacity is one of the things that can block an ADU project. If they're careful about limiting their rejection to a specific project for specific reasons that are allowed by state statute, it's tough to fight.
But if they issue broad statements like your comment that say things like they don't acknowledge ADU law, or that ADUs MUST connect to sewer, or that they are charging $40k for impact fees for ADUs under 750 sq ft, then that is something you might want to report to the state.
@@HowToADU The lady at the office did say many people have been asking for ADU's permits. I think it was a way for them to blow off most of the people while they find a way to sink their teeth into these projects. It is Ok; we have to play their game in order to win. My main home is not connected to sewer; but now I am looking to purchase one that is-and build the ADU. Thank you for the reply. New Subscriber.
@@HowToADU I have a good update. The city finally adopted the provisions of SB9 and reading the municipal regulations it does say if not connected to sewer; and in lots of 1 acre of less; I can still build an ADU if I install a supplemental septic system. I can't be any happier. Cheers!
@@svca12218 Great ending!
Hi, can you explain about the SB-8 no net loss declaration. thank you
The city of West Covina, has now changed the planning code. If one has a converted garage, they will not allow an addition over 300 sq.ft unless a 2-car garage is built. They also require a min 20x20 interior area of an existing garage if you want to build an ADU or a JADU.
1) You are my ADU god :)
2) Probably no surprise: LA City, LA County & CA state have conflicting guidelines about all sorts of stuff. (Including max height for a 2-story ADU.)
3) Thoughts? Would u recommend my hiring an ADU expert -- a lawyer? -- who legit knows all the ins-and-outs?
4) I'm now gonna watch your vid: 2 Story ADU Q&A
Much appreciated, Eric
Oh, wait... are U that expert? What's your website? Thx
Haha. Thanks. There are a lot of different directions you can go in. Some people say start with architect or experienced design builder. Others start with financing. I like to start with planning/HCD to figure out the various ways to accomplish your goals.
You might dig our private community community.how-to-adu.com/how-to-adu
897 Has a portion which deals with retroactive permits. My planning department says still have to follow all building codes, etc. When I read the section it seems that they are not allowed to hold you to today's standard unless health and safety hazard. Any thoughts?
I'm not sure what you're saying exactly so I want to be careful. For new construction or to convert an existing structure into an ADU, you do need to follow building codes. The ADU section of the government code has some provisions now that will limit cities that want to require you to bring existing non-conforming structures up to code (that are NOT related to the ADU) in order to get the ADU permit. This is not legal advice for your specific situation.
Regarding AB 916, does that trigger a property tax reassessment?
Any further update on front setbacks? I live in Rancho Cucamonga and have a huge front yard and cited AB 2221 to the city in my initial meeting with the planner. The city took some time but came back with the interpretation that if I could fit the ADU in my backyard, which I could, then the city won’t allow the front yard ADU. Do you know of more resources or other cities that have interpreted this differently? Has there been any court cases interpreting this issue?
This is an interesting case. Have you expressed to the city that you cannot afford to put an ADU in the back or some other practical thing preventing you from completing the project? In any case, you should ask the HCD for technical assistance and see their position. I can’t give specific advice for your project. Other cities do interpret this differently.
I have a 2 story house in Encinitas (n. San Diego) by the beach that I'd like to tear down the one car attached garage and build up a 2 story adu to match the house. Can I do that? Also, would the setback be the existing 10 feet from the neighbors fence or can I go 4 feet from the fence with a 2 story? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No public hearing means no ARB, PC or CC hearings. Planning Director/Administrator level approval only...
Thank you so much! So very similar to ministerial?
Awesome job Ryan! One of the most comprehensive, easy to follow, and fun breakdowns of the new laws I have seen to date. 😊
Thanks for watching - love knowing that people like you who are building a lot of these ADUs are keeping up to date with the best options for homeowners.
My city is limiting us to 16 ft to build over the garage. Thank you for the info.
When it’s an attached garage, cities often see the new code and change policy. For detached, some still resist
It’s a detached garage. Our architect is asking for an exception when submitting plans to the city. There are several 2 story houses around our single house so we’re trying to hopeful. We have no other real options to put an ADU. 🤞
If we simply insulate and put up paneling in our garage do we need a pertmit?
Excellent summaries. Only thing, AB 2221 (Chapter 650) got chaptered out, so SB 897 (Chapter 664) controls.
Also...I was laughing out out at 11:48. 😅
Thanks for explaining that - the legislative process still baffles me!!!
thx. yes I have an architect & builder -- who did our existing home. I've asked them about the state, county & cities restrictions. The issue is: they're also getting incorrect info from the city. And I called LADBS (department of building & safety) -- and was told with authority I could only build 16 feet. So y'know... that happened. I guess I'm looking for a definitive unambiguous guideline... tho perhaps the best I can get is AB 221. Thoughts?
There’s a website where you can ask the state to look at your case. calhcd.service-now.com/csp?id=csm_sc_cat_item_public&sys_id=19d0846297794910edea398c1253af2a This form is how you officially request technical assistance. You want to include specific contact information for specific individuals in the planning department, as well as copies of the communications you’ve had so that the HCD can quickly see the specific wording the city is using. And you want to explicitly tell the HCD (in this form) that you are open to them using your specific project as an example (or tell them you want to stay anonymous and would rather they not use your specific project)
@@HowToADU YOU KNOW THE TRICKS! :)
@@ericalan5560 I have been known to know a trick or two :)))
@@HowToADU happy friday. still haven't heard back from CALHCD... I actually read the bills myself yesterday... there's some "unclarity" re: setbacks. The way I read it local agencies must allow attached ADU's to extend beyond current R1 setback guidelines. But y'know, I'm no lawyer. Have any of the experts you've interviewed mention this interpretation?
@@ericalan5560 if the structure already exceeds the setback, that’s got a good argument for approval. Otherwise it’s generally a four foot side and rear setback and
This was so helpful thank you so much
Great video. Just subscribed. I am curious about laws regarding green house dome. I plan on building an unattached adu ( less than 800 square feet,) inside a 29 ft high dome/greenhouse. Allegedly, no permit required for greenhouse. If you make a video in the future, I would love for u to cover the weird and wonky ideas, such as mine. Thank u for the content. Wishing u health and prosperity ❤🎉
wow, that would be cool. So my understanding is that if I build an unpermitted greenhouse in California, it is exceedingly unlikely that it will be considered as a permanent dwelling.
Ultimately, the local planning and building departments will tell you what you are allowed to do and whether its up to code for the use you have in mind! Not legal advice :)
Hi Ryan, I have a question. So, from what I have been able to research with the City of Livermore, they will allow an ADU in my parent's back yard of their two-story home. The city requires a 4' set back from all property lines, and since they are in a mass transit corridor, they said the height limit is 18'. So, I have two questions, first I thought I heard in one of your videos that with the 18' height limit their maybe an additional 2' for the roof, is this correct? Also, is the setback of 4' on the footing only? As I was wondering if I kept the setback on the foundation footing, could I add a pop out on the second floor to add more footage, or do I have to stay within 4' the entire height of the structure?
Thanks for the good questions. You should check with the planners about the height limits for that specific project! In general, if you're within the high quality transit corridor the state code says "(ii) A height of 18 feet for a detached accessory dwelling unit on a lot with an existing or proposed single family or multifamily dwelling unit that is within one-half of one mile walking distance of a major transit stop or a high-quality transit corridor, as those terms are defined in Section 21155 of the Public Resources Code. A local agency shall also allow an additional two feet in height to accommodate a roof pitch on the accessory dwelling unit that is aligned with the roof pitch of the primary dwelling unit." But there are lots of different regulations that can overlap so always work with the local agency about the specific situation you're in. For setbacks, this is another question to speak with the local planners about. It's very common for exterior structures without footings like stairs or awnings to be included in various setback calculations. It's also very common for the city to have stricter setback requirements on second floors than on ground floors. This is not legal advice for your specific situation - general information only.
Barbara, what was Livermores conclusion, allowance finally? Hoping or guessing you already got this done?
Hello, Can I add a two unit ADU on top of and at the rear of my current garage? In essence I want to add a studio or 1 bedroom on the 1st floor and a 2bd on the 2nd story while leaving my current garage in tact.
I'm working with a client in the City of Yorba Linda. Last year they denied our attached ADU because they claimed the sf of the attached ADU should be considered an "addition" which triggers the Fire Sprinkler requirment. I'd love to know how this law regarding fire sprinklers might effect this case. It seems they ought to be unable to make this requirement but then again I argued the sf of an "addition" is all together, functunilly and legally, different than the sf of an ADU and as such shouldn't trigger it anyway... they disagreed and "aint noby got time for that" so they killed the project. Love the channel and thanks for all you do!
I'm in plan check and running into this problem with city. Plan is for a second story ADU over an existing garage which I planned to enlarge into existing side yard setback. They say I can have the second story with a 4' side setback but the existing garage setback has to remain because it is not a part of the ADU. Currently my side yard setback is 10ft, but they are also saying that it needs to be 11' because im going over 16ft in height. Help!
ITS LADBS
Its hard to understand exactly what’s going on without looking at some plans. Broadly speaking, if I am creating an ADU within the parameters of a statewide exemption (under 800 sq ft under the appropriate height limit, etc) then those setback rules are very restrictive and I’d ask the HCD to look at the project. If I’m not in that subdivision of statewide exemption, then it’s pretty typical for these kinds of restrictions to come up.
Hey Ryan. Hi from Los Angeles. According to my state senator's office, The Housing and Community Development Department is sifting thru complaints from both LA City & County re: the new laws. Yes, I'm unable to get HCDD to respond to my question... which is:
My attached ADU plans follow the rules about total square footage & my existing garage's footprint. I'm trying to determine if the SECOND FLOOR of that ADU can extend beyond the existing footprint. (Think of 2 legos; the bottom one's a square, and the top one is a rectangle.) Any thoughts about any state department who'd talk to me? Cheers, Eric
Hi, have you used the HCD form to flag the issue? There's a lot more coaching available in my private community about this. But you can generally work through the form for free on your own here: calhcd.service-now.com/csp?id=csm_sc_cat_item_public&sys_id=19d0846297794910edea398c1253af2a
In general, I have the most success when I propose a plan I think should be allowed based on local and state rules. Then, after being rejected, I talk to the local planners about why. And then, I bring it to the state. I try not to go straight to the state with broad hypothetical questions, without a rejection in hand. Although there are exceptions to that too ;)
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS INFO!!
Thanks!
My pleasure. Thanks for the superthanks!
Hello Ryan if I am trying to make a 2 stories adu in Los Ángeles city what should I do, I am zoned R2 and it’s a single family dwelling with a detached 2 car garage. I had a contractor tell me that’s not possible and one tell me everything’s possible what are your thoughts
I can’t give specific advice for your situation. Broadly, I recommend people talk to the local planning department about what they can do. If you ever feel like they’re blocking something that you should be able to do, talk to the state (HCD)
are these new rules implemented now (post 1 Jan) or do we need to wait until municipalities adopt them (as it is with new model building codes)?
The state statute kicked in on January 1. But you might still need to convince your local jurisdiction to update and follow the rules ;)
@@HowToADU thanks so much. I take from this it is the law of the land, regardless who knows it. If it is a state mandate, I guess there is no adoption process.
What info do you have on SB684? Small lot subdivision on a multifamily lot...
I am considering subdividing a large multifamily lot in Palm Springs that has 2 structures currently on the property. Can I sell off some of the subdivided property without building a structure?
Great summary! Thanks for putting it all together. I know we're def gon a be putting that extra 2 ft to work
Thanks. I love seeing people like you pick up this knowledge because I KNOW you're going to make the most of it ;)
Go build some homes!
Can I convert an existing attatched garage into a 750sq/ft two story adu while leaving the main house a one story?
Is the existing garage 2stories?
@@HowToADU no sir
@@paulesquer1048 then it won’t benefit from a lot of the rules about converting existing space. We can dig into the details for your property to see what’s possible. Broadly, a lot of homeowners with one story homes should be able to get an above the garage ADU permitted, but there will be exceptions like if you’re closer that 4 feet from the property line, restrictive utility easements, FARs (if you mean 750 per floor), and so on.
The City of South Gate CA does not permit 2 story ADUs unless the primary (front) house is a two story.
Does this legislation supercede the local attempt to do away with 2 story ADUs?
That's the intent of the state legislation. To, in 3 specific situations, supersede local ordinances to allow for 2 story ADUs. Now, that's my read and it's early - and every project has specific circumstances that need to be evaluated to figure out exactly how to apply the laws, but broadly that's what this is supposed to do. Also worth noting there are things the cities could do to mitigate this like put in ordinances that prevent SFH in that zoning from being taller than 1 story (which would mitigate the attached heigh limit) and decrease transit service (which is sad, but something that some rich neighborhoods will do to get their way).
Do you know how much it cost to build an ADU from the ground up including permits, waterlines, sewage, etc.? Any reference would be appreciated.
Varies a ton based on the details. Highly recommend using our sponsor realm to get a free estimate and then hire them to do a scope of work and find multiple designers/builders to bid on the project. l.realmhome.com/how-to-adu
Roughly speaking, most ADUs cost 6 figures all in. In the Bay Area, people are lucky to get a price that starts with a 2 as in $200k-$299k. Most projects I see end up all in around $300k. In So Cal, things tend to be about 20-30% less expensive but all in you're still very typically in the high 100's or low 200's.
Occasionally, I see somebody complete a conversion for 5 figures all in and it's a bit of a miracle. I tell clients to budget for more and then throw a party if they make it out at that price.
@@HowToADU when you say 200-299 in So Cal, how many sqft are you referring too? I am interested in a 1200sqft.
Check out the link to realm.
Hello my father bought a duplex house in Compton California. And he has built another house in the back and a built in garage but they both have no permits or plans he passed away just shortly a year ago and I just got the news on how he had done. Is it possible for me to get that straightened out with the City without tearing down the house in the back and as well with built house garage ?your Videos are awesome and pretty much helpful
I’m sorry for your loss. Please keep safety in mind if anybody is currently living in those non conforming units.
How the city handles it, really depends on the details. I’ve seen some people get a simple request to bring things up to code and a nominal fee. I’ve seen other people have to tear down structures. Get legal advice from a lawyer. Look up if there’s an amnesty program in the jurisdiction. Talk to local building inspectors on the phone about what the process is typically like.
Thank you!
Ryan, awesome as always! I really want to tell you our story with our permitted ADU OF 490 sq ft and the now almost 2YEAR DRLAY AND DENIAL BY OUR HOA and all the illegal BS happening here in San Elijo Hills of San Marcos CA! Do you think any of the changes are helping limit HOA’s from continuing to deny construction IE (as a “local agency” )!
Oh man. Places that end in "Hill". Don't get me started.
Unfortunately, I think the new law will not broadly change the situation with HOAs. I could see an argument that the HOA has to move faster to approve or deny as a "permitting" agency. But I'm not sure if that's a sound argument or not.
Having said that, there are a lot of things you can already do to push back on HOA denials and find a friendly OR UNFRIENDLY agreement. Most cases that I see delayed this long are delayed because they're not enforcing "objective" standards. Is that the case with you? Book a call with me if it is or join our private community.
@@HowToADU Thanks for your note. Would it be possible to chat? My wife and I are trying to find “the powers that be” in Sacramento who could actually do something about HOAs. To date, we haven’t found anyone who will listen. Thanks.
@@jeffhawkins3465 You can book 1-on-1 calls with the team here: how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking
You might also get a lot out of our private community: community.how-to-adu.com/how-to-adu
Thanks Ryan! You have provided an excellent details on removing some of the most common thorns from invisible gray areas when it comes to ADUs. One thing I still can't hold a grasp is if my location permits for 18' high and I plan to build two story ADU, assuming I am planning to build 1000 sq ft that fits the required distance from back fence and my primary house, can I build second floor on top of 1000 sq fit ground floor with the same area? Or it must be 500 sq ft down stair and 500 sq ft up stair? I can't find this requirement anywhere. Thank you!
Thanks for watching. It depends on local planning department and local regulations. For example your local zoning might limit your ADU to 1000 sq ft habitable living space (so total over the living space of both floors). It might also limit you to a certain floor area ratio which combines the floors and includes unconditioned space. It might also have lot coverage limits which often do NOT count the sq footage of both floors but just the lot footprint. The details depend on your specific situation and a good architect will help. The local planners can answer these questions too
@@HowToADU Thank you for the idea.
Can one have a storage room not heated or not
Would that count in lot coverage?
Or a square feet added in the ADU size ?
I’m working on building 1000sf 2 bedrooms 2 bathrooms
But like to have an extra room for storage to keep all my stuff tools and other stuff thanks for helping
I want to build an adu to my fourplex which is two story but I was told I needed to build it 6ft away an a max of 16ft… now woth this can I build it attached to my fourplex an avoid the 6ft away an maybe make it higher ??
Not quite. You should talk to your local planning department for your specific situation and bring them the text of the law.
Generally speaking, I don't think there's a rule that says they have to allow you to do an attached ADU if you have multifamily dwellings on the property.
If what you're describing as a fourplex has more than one unit that shares a wall, that's a multi-family dwelling.
And then what you get to do is build TWO detached ADUs. The city is not required, in my understanding, to issue a permit for an attached ADU in that case. But two detached is pretty epic :)
Next, if the multifamily dwelling (as defined above) is multistory, then your ADUs can be 18 feet high.
Alternatively, if your multifamily dwelling is only one story, but you're within half a mile walking distance from a major transit stop, that could qualify you for 18 foot tall ADUs as well.
this might be easier to read than the video: www.how-to-adu.com/adu-articles-blog/new-adu-laws-in-2023
In what state are you?
@@kdockrey California
Thank you Ryan 👍
In Los angeles county, can I build a 2story ADU, with a patio roof?
If I buy a latge single family home, permit it into a duplex... can I build 2 ADU's on the remainder of the lot, given it meets/exceeds the setbacks?
What I've read in the state statute does not specifically allow or prohibit that. You're going to want to talk to the county planning division about this question.
I imagine a lot of cities and counties will be prohibiting this specific thing in the near future (if they don't already have an ordinance in place).
Hello Ryan. Thank you for all your content. Very helpful. I hit a wall today and I wonder if you have come across this scenario? I went to the City of Elk Grove building department and asked if I could build a 18' high ADU? He asked for my address and said well you are RD5 so in order to go to 18' you will have to have a 15' rear setback. Have you heard of this as being the case? I appreciate any information you can provide. Thank you, John
Thanks for watching John. This is not legal advice for your specific situation. Often times, the planners are looking at underlying zoning code instead of the ADU rules in the government code. Certain sections of the government code around ADUs make that underlying zoning code unenforceable under specific conditions. So it depends on your project.
In past situations, I have read the rules about what buildings are allowed to go up to 18 feet, shown that code to the planners and asked if my property qualifies. If you think you should be permitted and the city is out of bounds, you can talk to the HCD too.
Hi Ryan, thank you always for explaining. I have an urgent question regarding SB897. I have an attached garage conversion done without permit. City told me to legalize it. So I submitted the plan for the permit. City responded back in 2022 that I need to demolish or legalize existing 3 patio structures (2 enclosed, one open). The patios have been there since I bought it. Now that it’s 2023 and I just read about SB897, can I petition the city to allow me to keep the patios since they are not a thread to public health and safety. Can sb879 apply to my case since I’m trying to get a permit to legalize the garage conversion to jadu? Only difference I see is I’m legalizing instead of creating a new jadu but it is still the process of getting the permit. Please let me know your thinking. Appreciate it!
You should get a lawyer and also get advice from HCD. From the sound of it, you may have submitted your application at a time when the city could require that. Not sure what your options will be.
@@HowToADU thank you Ryan! Yes when I first submitted it was before 2023 so the sb897 was not in effect. It’s been a lengthy permit process and I am still in process and I haven’t got permit yet but since it’s 2023 now I’d hope to be able to apply sb897.
Thank you so much for your videos. I have a question, an issue we are having with the city of Thousand Oaks. We have 3.8 acre property and we just finished construction in May (2022). It consists of a main house, a detached 600sf “guest house/cabana unit”, and a detached 897sf workshop. Each of the structures is 150’ away from the next. We want to convert the 897sf workshop into an ADU. The city planner recently denied our application because the workshop is closer to the front entrance of our property than our primary residence. Basically a front setback restriction. We argued that because it is an existing structure it does not have to meet that front setback requirement (as stated In the city’s own code). But they replied that Existing means existing as of when the law went into place which they say is Jan 1, 2020. This sounds wrong to us. It’s an existing legally permitted structure we just completed construction on this year. Nothing on the exterior would change. It’s sprinklered and designed to the same structural specs as the main home.
Curious your thoughts.
Basically they are defining the word Existing as existing prior to 1/1/2020.
In my mind (haha) existing means it exists now therefore it should fall under the exemption for existing structures.
Some cities have cleverly built in the date to their local ordinances. Whenever a city says something like that you should say "Oh thanks for explaining. Could you show me the specific part of the code that says that so I can read it and understand the context?" You'd be surprised how many times the answer is "Well it's not specifically in the code per se..." and other times it's pretty black and white but you can find an alternative by reading the lines above and below!
I don't want to give you false hope, but with the context you've given here I think you have a lot of paths forward. It just depends how feisty you want to get with the city and how much you want to convert that unit. Thousand Oaks is an HOA right? So not really an SB 9 situation. But you could imagine writing to the HCD about your front setback argument. And you could imagine pushing harder with the city on that existing in January 2020 definition.
Wow thank you so much for such a quick reply! I hear you on being feisty. We are experienced in this area as it was a requirement to develop this property.😂
We are in the City of Thousand Oaks but our particular neigborhood does not have a restrictive HOA. We do have an HOA but they have no say over design or property use, their only function is to maintain the main road.
I reached out to the city attorney weeks ago, after planning told us they would not approve our request, to get a definition of the word Existing and I have followed up a couple of times. The latest I heard was that he was in receipt of my messages and needed to discuss it with staff.
I think this may be a new situation they have not seen. Guessing Not many people have constructed a non dwelling accessory structure in the past two years and now want to convert to an ADU. We had our reasons for this (pre 2020 city restrictions, financing restrictions of building a house with an ADU, etc).
We’ll keep at it. There are likely other options to split the lot and tackle it that way, but that just sounds expensive and tedious and I’m so tired of dealing with the city😅.
Do you know what the tallest detached 2 story adu in the 90280 area code you can build?
Hmm, this is a bit more complicated than checking your zipcode.
So you want to figure out what jurisdiction you're in and check the planning department for their broad rules. Some cities/counties have no height limit or use the underlying zoning code height limit, and then you might get to build quite tall - as tall as the main house, for example.
Then you want to check the multiple categories for height limits in the state code, and that can vary based on how close you are to mass transit, and other structures already existing on the property.
The answers vary a lot based on specific project details!
Hi Ryan. In my city, Monterey Park, CA they do not allow a 2 story ADU. Will any of these bills change this restriction? Thanks!
These bills can affect that restriction for four types of properties.
Really enjoy your commentary. Seeing if you have run across this one. We have a property that has a dethatched garage the crosses over a dashed assessor line or what was originally deeded property prior to the map act. The title report and assessor information is very clear on who owns the property, but the City (whom will remain nameless) wants a formal survey that sounds a lot like an ALTA survey to show all features and easements, to pay them $3700 to review and $600 to prepare a lot merger, perfecting deeds, letter from borrower it is ok, and pass around to everyone to review for their conditions! The property does not have curb and gutter or street lights... etc.. Also, there appears to be setback issues from the nonconforming uses that were added over many years. We have prepared a site plan and want to set down with them to argue the point. We have a JrADU in the main house and want to do a garage ADU that are at risk of approval. Thanks!
Unfortunately I have seen a lot of stories like this. If you are converting an existing building into an ADU, and they refuse to give you a permit until you complete the work you described, I think that you would want to share that refusal with the HCD along with documentation of what is going on. calhcd.service-now.com/csp?id=csm_sc_cat_item_public&sys_id=19d0846297794910edea398c1253af2a When you're filling it out, let the HCD know if they are allowed to use your specific case when speaking with the local agency, and include contact information for the specific people you have been working with.
Your channel is so informative. I have a question. I have a duplex (2 separate 2 story units) on my property. Can I build (2) 18 ft ADUs?
I forgot to add that I’m in Los Angeles city.
A lot depends on the details. If you have two separate single family dwellings, they may likely limit you to one ADU. But there are other ways to build a second structure sometimes.
@@HowToADU My mistake. It’s a duplex with a shared wall. It’s on a R2 lot.
Wow your really good. .You explain things to where I could understand.
Wish you had information for my State W.V.
Senior Citizen could use the extra income..🌷
I just bought a multi family property. 2 separate houses 1 bedroom 1 bath each. In Berkeley ca. What are the chances to build 2 ADU's. Since there's 2 houses legally permitted?
Weirdly, some of the biggest difference will come from whether those 2 homes share a wall (making them a multi family dwelling) or not.
Having said that, depending on what you've got in mind, you may be able to build 2 ADUs anyway. You should talk to your local planners, and if you face resistance, come back and chat with me. There could be a number of different paths to get you to multiple units.
Can we build an ADU in the front lot? I am planning to new house and ADU. One story ADU in front and 2 story Main house in the rear lot. Thanks.
Depends on the details. The state rules are pretty explicit about front setbacks not being enforceable if they would preclude the construction of a small ADU (under 800 sf). You should come to our live Q&A on Thursday and we can work it out community.how-to-adu.com/q-a-live-with-ryan-o-connell
when you get your house re-appraised after converting extra rooms into bedrooms, doesn't that also cause an increase in the property taxes? IMO unless selling or refinancing there's no point in getting it reappraised and in turn asking for a higher property tax bill. Anyone thinks it works differently in terms of taxes?
That's a great point - you'd definitely want to speak to the county tax assessor and your tax person to figure out the impact. In my friend's case, if he did it right before selling the house, it would make a lot of sense. Another situation where it might make sense is if the county tax assessor says they will only do an additional value assessment for the new space, rather than a reassessment of the overall property. There's a clip of the Sacramento assessor/appraiser talking about that process in his county here: ua-cam.com/video/-HKGAIzcKVg/v-deo.html
any ADU company recommendations in san diego?
I have different recommendations depending on the project. Shoot me an email with what you're looking to do and what your priorities are and I can point you in the right direction. ryan@how-to-adu.com
Hi! I keep reading that San Diego County only lets you build one ADU and one JADU, but a close neighbor had his property approved for 3 ADUs, my engineer told me the same only one ADU. Any advice on how to get approved for more ADUs? we have both one acre and both single family zone
This video explains the circumstances where people generally get 2 ADUs and a JADU. Up to three accessory dwelling units in California on one single family lot?
ua-cam.com/users/shortsfiYxXHoHpLQ?feature=share
The city of San Diego also has bonus ADU rules based on affordability requirements.
Very informative! Thank you,
Front setbacks, if we go 4 feet away from the sidewalk while keeping the ADU under 800’.
Are we in compliance?
Ryan do you do one on one consulting I have more questions
You can use this link to book a call. www.how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking
I’m also doing a webinar on Wednesday which is normally for my paid members only but this one is on me. howtoadu.podia.com/new-adu-laws-in-2023
I have a single story SFH with a detached 512sqft garage that's 10 feet away in the front lot. What are my options? Can I do JADU and ADU and or garage conversion or pump the house to create the 10ft addition to attach the garage with the house?
Fun! You have tons of options. It’s better to start with what you want to accomplish and then narrow in on the most effective ways to achieve that.
Good candidate for a call: www.how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking
I love that you are going to ask the legislators about their intent! 🤩🤩🤩
Hello! How dose it work with the septic tank with these new water treatment septic tank these are like 50,000/65,000$
I think there are some changes in here about septic, but I'm not very savvy about this stuff. I just know to warn homeowners what you seem to already know. Septic improvements are a big expensive red flag!
Hello Ryan and appreciate the chance to ask a question. I thought there was an additional benefit to 2221 and it focused on front setbacks. I had heard they were allowing you to build closer to the street as long as it was attached to original building. Is there anything new with front yard setbacks?
Thanks for watching. Yeah, front setbacks have been explicitly added to the government code as one of the rules local agencies should not enforce if the ADU meets the requirements of a statewide exemption ADU. Having said that, I see cities taking a variety of creative stances on this so you may need to contact the local planners and HCD and work with them to get where you're going. To my knowledge, this is not generally related to whether the ADU is attached or not, but there may be specific situations where attaching to the existing structure gets you different setback requirements.
YOU ARE A GENIUS :) my question: I live in LA... but can't locate the city's height limit for an attached ADU. (That's the underlying zoning code, right?) thoughts? E
Yeah you want to find the city’s zoning map. LA will have a “GIS” map with a zoning layer. Then when you get your zoning code like R1-##### you will google the Los Angeles zoning ordinances about that zoning code and any other specific plan or special district you’re in.
@@HowToADU Got it. Another question: I'm selling a property and hoping I can avoid capital gains tax by building an ADU on our primary residence property. After clicking around, it seems this isn't allowable... tho after watching ur vids, it seems laws are still settling and gray. Thoughts? Agencies you'd pursue to get an answer? Thx. Eric
Sorry - I don't do tax stuff. I have seen clients do VERY impressive structuring with generational transfers, so if you're talking to a tax professional, that might be what you ask them about. For example, letting an heir build the ADU on your property while you still own the house and land. There are lots of ways to spend the money that have huge implications on your taxes/finances. Speak to licensed pros. Not me :)
Hi, I have 3 questions. I got an approved permit for building an ADU in the back of my existing house. The ADU's living area is 1200 square feet and I will be living in this new ADU after it has been built (my existing house will be rented out).
My questions are:
1) The city's approved permit for my ADU requires me to install a 2520-Watt solar panel on the roof of my new ADU but my electric bill right now usually only costs me around $40 or less. If I move to the ADU later on, the electric bill will be about the same since I will be the only one living in the new ADU with my daughter. My question is since my approved permit requires me to install a solar panel on the roof of my new ADU, is it possible for me to request from the city to not install the solar panel for my new ADU?
2) Do I have to install a rain barrel for my new ADU as it is required by the city's approved permit? Can I request to the city not to install a rain barrel for my ADU? I'd rather not install the rain barrel since it will attract a lot of mosquitoes as told by my brother based on his experiences.
3) Do I have to install a fire sprinkler for my new ADU as it is required by the city's approved permit? Can I request to the city not to install a fire sprinkler for my ADU since I already have a fire hydrant in front of my property?
Thank you for all the information! Your videos are really informative and helpful!
Probably you already gotten the answers for your questions since this is an old post. By the law any ADU above a 1000sqft requires a solar panel. For the rain barrels you can contact me I can advise you on that. Thanks.
got it. thx so much. ur vids are very very helpful. Cheers
Glad it helped!
So if I want an ADU, I can submit my complete plans and application to the city in Jan 2023, and they are required to issue a permit in 60 days, or give me a full list of why my application is unsatisfactory, correct? That is MUCH faster than what the city of Los Altos is presently doing.
That is what the statute says. Our lawyer friends aren't sure exactly how we'll get enforcement there, but it certainly gives you a reason to write a very strongly worded letter. And rather importantly, it is expanded to other agencies now. So the dreaded utility delay can also trigger a strongly worded lawyer letter :D
Thank you for updating us
Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Could you educate us on using manufactured homes as ADUs?
Do it! :)
In California it’s perfectly allowed. You want to learn about the financial lending and appreciation/depreciation (which isn’t my specialty). But they’re a great way to build more homes.
I’m trying to purchase a multi unit way up in Mendocino, three houses and one manufactured home. It is proving nearly impossible to get a lender to not be squeamish about the manufactured home!!
It does seem some will consider if on a concrete perimeter, permanent foundation!!
I’d recommend talking to a few lenders, so that you don’t find yourself with a property that would be difficult to sell in future.
@@entrepreneur-whisperer Have you tried Land Home Financial Services?
Look up Richmond Chester
He may be able to help.
Hi Ryan, are you still answering questions on here?
Depends on the questions :)
SB 684 ???
Hi Ryan, you are a life saver...so much so that I subscribed to your channel because there is so much I need to learn from you! I have a question regarding the new laws with respect to 3-D printed models. Do you know if the new State laws supersede municipal laws on 3-D printed (or any other model that is delivered fully assembled)? I live in Poway, CA and our county just LOVES to use the word "no". Can you direct me to any of your videos that might specifically address this issue? Thank you very much!
Thanks for watching and subscribing!
I can't give specific advice for your project. Broadly speaking, ADUs have to be built up to code to be habitable and your local building department is going to do inspections to make sure that a project meets code requirements. Unconventional construction methods can often complicate that inspection process. 3D Printing companies use a wide range of strategies to meet code compliance - some like Mighty Buildings were actually 3D printing around conventional steel frame structures with insulation. Other companies that are 3D printing with cement/aggregate are meeting normal code requirements and the method of delivery being a 3D printer nozzle is sort of irrelevant. If I were trying to find an answer, I'd pick a specific company and ask them what construction documents I can use to show my local planning and building department that I will be up to code. And then I'd start the conversation with the locals, armed with those documents to answer questions.
@@HowToADU You are the best! Thank you!!!!
Y0u should do a video on dealing with PG&E for separate meters - it's been a months long process with major aggravation.
Thanks for the suggestion. Do you want to set up a short recorded call with me in January to help me understand the process? Ryan@how-to-adu.com
I called the city planner. It was horrible on zoom not person. Rather be person. Because this City Planner did not know any of these laws. Said I could not even build ADUs but said I could Split the Lots. I SMH.. He told me to call Housing Department. Who do you talk to get this ball rolling? I can build up to 6-8 Units. I have my own street. One Neighbor and the other side is a Freeway. a bit over a 3rd of an Acre too! Seems like it be perfect to make more homes for L.A.
You can book an informational call with us here: www.how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking but it’s important to communicate well with that planner!
The best thing may be to send the HCD’s ADU handbook to the planner and highlight sections you think support your project.
If you have multiple lots, that’s a great approach. If you have one big lot then you may want to look into the limitations of putting so many units on one property without a split. The planner may have been giving you accurate advice.
From what I understood, I can build an attached 2-story ADU in my backyard in Alameda county - Fremont now. Please correct me if I'm wrong!
I wish it were easier to answer online. But just to prove that I'm not being coy, I looked up Fremont's zoning code. And there's a place called Glenmoor Gardens that appears to only allow single story residential. So if for example you have a property in Glenmoor Gardens, then no you cannot build a 2 story attached ADU. There are a dozen other exceptions I could imagine so it's impossible for me to answer broad questions like this!
But most of Fremont allows 2 story primaries in the underlying zoning code. So most of the lots in Fremont with a house on them, can now build 2 story attached ADUs as long as they respect the 4 foot side and rear yard setback and other ADU rules.
Thank you so much for the info.
Thanks for watching!
I intend to add a 400sqft addition to an existing 540sqft addition built in 2007. The 400 will have a bathroom, washer and dryer hook up, bedroom. The 540 has a kitchen installed when the addition was built. I intend to open up a window to join the new ADU 400 to the 540 to use the kitchen. Ryan will the ADU be considered a 940 total ADU or a 400sqft ADU the new addition. In Moreno Valley anything over 499sqft will have a Impect Fees trying to avoid. I intend to build after I get the OK from the HOA. then will proceed with the rest of the process. Ryan Thank You for all you do👍👍👍
You can propose a 400 sq ft ADU, attached to the existing structure and see what the planning department says. Generally speaking, I'm not surprised when they require a firewall between the attached ADU and the existing structure which would complicate things but still be feasible.
If they come back and say that the 540 sq ft needs to be counted to the ADU for some reason, I always ask them for their reasoning and ask if they can show me the specific city ordinance that they're using for their decision so that I can get all the context and do a good job with my corrections ;)
HELLO RYAN, GREAT VIDEO.....
I HAVE A 2 UNIT SINGLE STORY DUPLEX, WITH TWO ONE CAR GARGES IN BETWEEN, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CONVERT. I AM WITHIN 1/2 MILE FROM A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS, CAN I BUILD A 2 STORY ADU IN THE GARAGE SPACE, WHILE THE ACTUAL PROPERTY IS A SINGLE STORY?
ALSO, DOES THE 18 FOOT HIGHT INCLUDE THE ROOF PITCH?
Hi I just saw this - you can speak to your local planning department about your specific situation and your question. I have many clients who plan to ask for 2 story ADUs because they're within half a mile from major public transit stops. The 18 foot height limit is measured differently in different jurisdictions and often varies based on roof type.
@@HowToADU Thank you so much for the reply!!
Very Helpful Video. Thank you! If I build 2 ADUs on top of each other, do you know if they could be 800 square foot each without abiding to any Zoning parameters? Or would it be 800 square feet total for the 2 Adu's (400 each)?
Different cities are calling this one differently. So for example, if you have a multi family dwelling and get to build 2 detached ADUs, and the city has an FAR limit on the lot, some cities are saying you only get the first 800 sq ft of ADU exempted. So 1 800sf ADU, or 2 400sf ADUs (for example). Other cities are interpreting this to mean each detached ADU can have 800sf exempted. Stacked or detached from each other makes no difference in this hypothetical because it's FAR and the second floor also counts towards floor area. But if the limit were open space requirements, stacked could avoid counting the second story square footage against the requirement. Hope that makes sense - this is a hard one to explain in comments.
@@HowToADU Thank you! My particular case is in Oakland. Do you know how they think about that? 2 stacked ADU's in the back of a 4-plex. My zoning who not allow this, so both ADU's would need to be exempt from Zoning parameters compliance in order for it to work out.
@@oliverdavis4835 I'm pretty sure that's where the last case I heard about was. If memory serves, a lawyer from Holland & Knight spoke about it at a public comment for a zoning update commission in 2021. around the time I filmed this: ua-cam.com/video/tO9bBNf6w_U/v-deo.html
If you dig through the ZUC video from Oakland right after you might find the public comment.
Broadly, if I remember correctly, Oakland was saying first 800 sq ft only. And H&K was gently letting the city know they'd go to court over it.
I can't be sure though - it was a while back. And things can change too. Oakland passed new ordinances since then.
I don’t know what I’d do without your videos (read *and* understand the laws?! Yeah right!)
We are in SF and have a 700sqf detached garage at the rear of our lot that has basically zero setback on all three sides. We would like to build an ADU on top. How do we determine the approximate building envelope allowed?
SF is complicated. There is a pre application meeting you can get that is helpful for complicated projects. Otherwise check this out: sf.gov/topics/accessory-dwelling-unit-adu
One of the things that comes up a lot in SF is the ADU needs to be accessible without going through the front house or a garage. This is a red flag issue I’d you can’t do it around the side.
Otherwise, I expect that most can convert the existing structure exactly as is - and bump it out to add to the envelope (but the additions need to be set back 4 feet and conforming). Talk to your planning department for real advice - this is just general info.
If you get overwhelmed call me www.how-to-adu.com/get-started-booking
Im in a city that has rejected 2nd story ADUs (over an ATTACHED garage) due to the local agencies "2nd story setback rule". They said I cant go over 16 feet, and since the ADU is over the garage (above 16 feet) they must use the 2nd story setback. Does this law now mean that I can go over my garage (under 25 feet total, main house is 26 feet), and I can use the 4 foot rear and side yard setbacks for this 2nd story? AND leave my garage a garage? Or do I need to make it a 2 story ADU and use the garage as the 1st floor??
Broadly speaking, the law should protect what you’re describing. The law sets out a maximum height for the structure containing the ADU to be 25 feet in the situation you’re describing. So it doesn’t say that has to be a two story ADU.
@@HowToADU Alright, thanks. And then the 4 foot setback rule should apply too. Hopefully. Thanks for the reply.
@@kenmay8247 Yes, the statute is explicit about the 4 foot setback rule applying for these taller structures.
@@HowToADU Thanks! Great videos too!
Hi Ryan. I have a 5 bdrm 4 bath house 3k sqfi. Like to covert 1room into small kitchen. Have 2bdrm Jr adu.
Any conditions regulations I need to know? Also would that add increase in property tax and if so how is it calculated?
Sounds cool! I would need a lot more information to answer but there are almost definitely lots of regulations you need to know about!!! And your county tax assessor will want to issue a new assessment for the parts of the house that you convert, and any new construction. Contact the tax assessor for their exact methodology
Great, really informative video! Thank you!
Glad it’s helpful. Thanks for wstching
Question! I have a bus stop that is .7 miles away walking but less than .5 miles away in distance. Would I be able to do the 18ft?
The statute says half a mile walking distance for this clause. Clever architects sometimes find ways to summarize the project convincingly as a half mile from a major transit stop with a nice site map attached. I'm reminded of those Family Circus comics with the dotted lines showing where the kids walked :D
Having said that, there are other forms of transit that qualify as major transit stops, and high quality corridors. And the city can plan to move and modify transit stops so it's not fixed in stone right?
There are also 2 other ways to get the 18 feet, so explore all your options!
This isn't advice for your specific situation - just general information.
@@HowToADU thank you so much for your response! Would you happen to have the other two options. Ive heard people talk about them but I for some reason cant seem to understand them
@@federicofernandez7126 www.how-to-adu.com/adu-articles-blog/new-adu-laws-in-2023
Can the 2 story adu be 2 different units or it has to be one?
Good question. Ask the planning department about your specific situation.
This is not legal advice. Broadly speaking, the state statute doesn't have anything to say about requiring all the floors of a structure to belong to the same unit.
The way the height rules are framed, the state says a city can set the maximum building height for the structure containing the ADU. So I would imagine a friendly city planning department would let a homeowner get a permit for a second floor ADU on top of a primary unit or on top of another ADU (if you're allowed two ADUs). Or on top of an SB 9 unit. I could also imagine an unfriendly planning department finding lots of ways to obstruct this.
Hi Ryan, I have a 2500 sq/ft mix use lot in san bruno about 10 mins walk to train station. Do any of these changes will allow me to build a residential or mix use property without parking requirements?
You have incredibly informative videos. Thank you! Question... I have a detached 2-car garage that the outside wall is actually my neighbors fence so literally on the property line. I want to convert it to an ADU, but still retain a small portion of it for my own storage. My preference is to keep the yard side as my storage and the neighbors side as the ADU because that side also has a large patio area adjacent to it, etc. Can I? I am concerned about that 4' distance that is needed.
You should talk to your local planning department. Having said that, cities generally can't enforce setback rules if a homeowner is converting an existing structure. There's more information about this in the HCD's ADU handbook
@@HowToADU Thanks for such a quick reply! I've downloaded the handbook and am binge watching your videos. :) I'm concerned I'm at the tail end of the grant funds and they're going to be gone before I get my ducks in a row. I heard Katherine say re: application process that there is a place to submit the plans. Are plans required before applying for the grant?
@@orvickkelly That's a tough one for me to answer because the program requirements vary by entity and they keep changing their processes. Your best bet is to communicate directly with HPP CARES or CCEDA or whichever entity you're using to qualify for the grant. Fingers crossed for you!
I would be interested in learning more about t916. Like your friend - I have 3100 sq foot house that was used as an office for the last 20 years. I have converted it back to residential, have 6 bedrooms, but technically, none of them are bedrooms as it is listed as "office space". Can I use 916 to get it re-zoned?
You could potentially use 916 to convert rooms into up to 2 bedrooms without a public hearing. You should call the planning department though and see if they have other paths to getting this done. You might be surprised at how easy the process is to get all 6 rooms up to code as bedrooms on your listing. And then 916 is your backup plan.
Thank you Ryan!
Your videos are super helpful for navigating the ADU process. Is there anywhere you know of to join a waitlist to hear more about Help Homeowners Add New Housing once it's created? Thank you!
I’ll do a Followup on that but the actual bill (561) died in committee. But they made some recommended budget changes like extra funding -$50M will likely go to the ADU grant
@@HowToADU Thank you!
Great video, Ryan. Question about that front setback.. does that mean an ADU can be built at the front of the property? For some reason I thought it had to be behind the main home? Have I had it wrong or did something change? Thanks!
Thanks for watching - your channel is slick too :)
Broadly speaking, nothing in the California state rules says ADUs have to be behind the house. Even in the current/old rules.
But some jurisdictions have design restrictions that prevent people from putting ADUs in their front yard (like front setbacks). These will still exist after January 1, 2023. But front setbacks specifically won't be enforceable if the ADU meets some other requirements, mainly that it's under 800 sq ft and within the proper height and side setback limits.
There are also some jurisdictions that say "you can't put the ADU in front of the house" and it is an open question whether this will conflict with the HCD's interpretation of the state rules around front setbacks. At least from my reading - but I'm just a dude on UA-cam.
Lastly, it's worth mentioning that some jurisdictions incentivize building in the back. And that's still A okay too. So for example, in Sacramento, if you build way back from the road, you can build much closer to the side and rear lot line. That's a really sweet incentive to build in the back even though you may be technically able to build in the front.
Hope that helps.
@@HowToADU Thanks! And thanks for the additional information. I have a strange little spot at the front of my yard I've always thought would be perfect for a small ADU. Maybe now I can look into making it happen with less pushback.
I tried REALM but they don't do Fresno area 🤦🏽♂️
Sorry about that! Hope they expand services soon.
My property is at R-15 zone. A 2nd until was permitted in the 80s. At first they first they said my property is “multiple buildings” and can have a ADU. Now they changed their mind and said i can cause the 2nd unit is the same as an ADU. Any thoughts? Do you think new laws will allow 2 ADUs on one lot regardless the type of zoning?
I have a sfr that sits on a lot allows for a duplex. My idea is to build the duplex then adu after. Do any of these changes allow me to do that at the same time? City planner tells me i need to build the duplex first then i could do adu. Do you know of any ways around that?
It’s hard to give specific advice without knowing the lot and seeing the planners response. Broadly speaking multi family and single family both have the ability to permit an adu so the objection makes no sense even with the current code, unless I’m missing something. You should consider joining my private group where I coach people on how to work with the city to get through permitting. howtoadu.podia.com/how-to-adu
Ok I have an 730 sq ft 1 bed 1 bath and kitchen illegal converted attic. Would this unit be able to separate utility meter bills?
Thanks for the question Jaime, but we can't give specific advice without a LOT more information. Your planning department is a great place to get information about your specific project.
Please prioritize safety!
Things that will matter a lot:
Is the unit safe?
Is there currently a tenant?
Is the unit up to code and can an inspector see that during a visit?
What is your current metering setup?
Is the unit attached, detached, or the conversion of an existing space?
Good luck finding out everything.
Great video, Ryan, thanks.
Do you know if the Coastal Commission processing (CDP, waiver, or exemption) also falls under the " Y'all got 60 days" rule?
I'm not sure how this will work out. The amended definition of permitting agency is "any entity that is involved in the review of a permit for an accessory dwelling unit or junior accessory dwelling unit and for which there is no substitute, including, but not limited to, applicable planning departments, building departments, utilities, and special districts." But the statute still also has a carve out for the CC "Nothing in this section shall be construed to supersede or in any way alter or lessen the effect or application of the California Coastal Act of 1976 (Division 20 (commencing with Section 30000) of the Public Resources Code), except that the local government shall not be required to hold public hearings for coastal development permit applications for accessory dwelling units."
@@HowToADU Thanks, Ryan. We're gonna have to wait until January 1 to see how they're going to play.
I am confused about adding an attached ADU to a single family house. Is this allowed? I keep seeing conflicting information. Some comments seem to be doing this but isn't there a rule about only adding 150' for ingress and egress? Basically I want to add 650' and attach it to my house. Can I do this?
Thanks for watching Darren. You want to go back to the older videos about the basic rules before watching updates like this about the new changes. Broadly speaking, you can build attached ADUs or “bump outs” in California. Generally cities will have a maximum size like 50% of the primary or 1000 sq ft for a 2 bedroom. See your planning department for the rules and how they apply to your specific property. There are even more rules that could affect your project like FAR or open space requirements. So I can’t tell you if your specific property can do the attached ADU you’re proposing. And lastly the 150 for egress thing is usually about JADUs where you’re using the existing primary structure.
Question, Is there a minimum lot width and depth on a SB 9 lot split?
I think I answered this somewhere, but just in case... the SB 9 statute doesn't have specific language about minimum lot width and depth. In my eyes, it implies that cities will actually have a hard time enforcing lot width and depth requirements that preclude lot splits. Having said that, some local jurisdictions have implemented lot width and depth requirements, as well as other requirements about flag lots or front and back lot splits. So you really want to figure out what your local agency is doing and what your appetite to fight is.
Thanks for the info! Does AB 2221 supersede any CC&Rs prohibiting 2 stories as well?
Ah, showing up with the hard questions. As I say in the video, it's not SUPER clear to me that cities have to allow 18 feet ADUs near mass transit when the underlying zoning code doesn't allow any homes over one story. I mean, that's what the statute seems to say, but I wouldn't want to fight that fight before hearing state guidance in support. Personally.
When it comes to CC&Rs I think it's even tougher. The statute clearly redefines the statewide exemption ADU (under 800 sq ft, 4 ft side and rear setback, under max height - which could be really tall). But I think it's only a matter of time before an HOA brings this to court. Will YOUR HOA bring you to court? Who knows? Ask a lawyer :)
Doing a webinar about this on Wednesday and this would be a fun one to talk about. howtoadu.podia.com/new-adu-laws-in-2023
@@HowToADU Thanks Ryan! Look forward to attending!
916 is very interesting. How will they enforce the building code if they do this? Hopefully they'll provide a properly sized egress window.
Yeah I think another commenter agreed that they can still give ministerial comments about objective requirements. They just can’t require approval or hearing at a planning commission, city hall or other public hearing.
What is high quality transit corridor?
More detail on the blog: www.how-to-adu.com/adu-articles-blog/new-adu-laws-in-2023
“For purposes of this section, a high-quality transit corridor means a corridor with fixed route bus service with service intervals no longer than 15 minutes during peak commute hours.“
“A major transit stop is as defined in Section 21064.3, except that, for purposes of this section, it also includes major transit stops that are included in the applicable regional transportation plan“
“Major transit stop” means a site containing any of the following:
(a) An existing rail or bus rapid transit station.
(b) A ferry terminal served by either a bus or rail transit service.
(c) The intersection of two or more major bus routes with a frequency of service interval of 15 minutes or less during the morning and afternoon peak commute periods.
I haven’t found a definition for “Peak commute hours” in the statutes. I think these are defined at the local level in some jurisdictions. And otherwise, the MTC (Metropolitan Transportation Commission) puts it at 6-10am and 3-7pm (similar to the carpool lane rules).
Is there anyway to legalize an unpermitted unit built after 2018?
Can I build a upstairs downstairs adu two separately adu
There's special building code requirements for ingress/egress and fire safety and other elements when you build multifamily structures like this.
Talk to experienced, licensed architects and builders, and your local city planners about your options. They will collect information about your specific project and tell you what you can do.
Broadly speaking, it is possible to propose a structure with separate units on the first and second floor. In some cases those can both be ADUs (for example if you're converting an existing