The black sun with golden blood (elden ring😅) is shown behind Nanook in the myriad celestia trailer. And there's also the chess player's hand shown in the trailer. This is one of the Lord Ravagers.
Personally i don't think so, as ichor (the blood of the gods in mythology) was golden. They could be literally speaking of anyone, as long as they are a deity. But i suppose we will need to wait and see
In classical Greek mythology, ichor was the golden blood of gods, so it could be a visual reference to the time of the gods ending and a new era dawning. That isn't to say Nanook couldn't be involved (particularly given the other visual cues ravelt mentioned above), but at this stage it isn't guaranteed.
This trailer reflects the Elysian Realm from HI3rd, a truly tragic story. But the girl named “Cyrene” has assured us THIS story will be more romantic compared to the last. Elysia herself loved humanity and wanted to save them, but was unable to save her Era and could only affect the next cycle, so perhaps the Trailblazer will allow this group of Flame-Chasers to truly become heroes and save their world, or perhaps it has already ended and we are remembering these heroes and that is why we have the Rememberance path. After all, the truth of the thirteen as Elysia tells us is they are people who never became heroes, they had an unfinished journey, and is buried by time. Then she simply tells us to be a witness to their prideful lives to the end.
I think that we are going to alter their story and the Era to save the world bc since Sunday is part of the express and rmc we can say for sure them two might be able to and also the possibility of 5 star march bc we can see each hero have an different area/realm/Era so we can assume that march might play a strong role as well
Black Swan also confirms that the only way to enter Amphoreous is through the Rememberance so I think we will experience memories of Amphoreous and create a new future
@@4g3nt06 a theory, a scene from the trailer, and an unconfirmed leak suggest sunday is going to join the trailblaze, for a bit. There is 2 "possibilities", sunday is going to straight up join the nameless or join the stellaron hunters and join us by command from the prophet. I haven't checked if those are confirmed yet, but those exist.
I have a video coming out soon where one of the discussion topics is guessing who the 3 paths/aeons are and tbh theres a lot of hints a bout a few of them. So maybe this place is literally the land of gods and most of them might be involved in some way, mythus included
The Black Tide could be Nihility, or it could be the Stellarons. A lot of the imagery reminded me of Deshret unleashing the corruption of Forbidden Knowledge in Genshin, and in Star Rail the closest match to Abyssal corruption is the "cancer of all worlds". Just my early impression from the trailer.
The way the black tide was shown reminded me of the forbidden knowledge in genshin as well but with how many times the word gloom is used I just felt it was somethign to do with nihility. That said every story by this point involves a stellaron in some way so one (or even a few) may very well make an appearance, maybe the people here even source their strength from it and all this talk about gods is just a mislead
For me, it seems that the order has a part to play in this story. Not only do we see the eyes that are very similar if not identical to order, but we also see hands that look like that of a manikin's, similar to Ene. We also know that a lot of the planets that followed the order fell due to inner conflict, much like amphoreus did. It also proves more since it was said that the world was originally in chaos before the titans appeared. What's the opposite of chaos? Order, so it would make sense why Ene cast her gaze upon the planet. So I think the titans were either creations of Ene sent to bring order or they where eminators of the order. I also think that the flamechasers are very similar to the ten stonehearts. A cornerstone holds a portion of an eminators power since a core flame contains the titan's powers. I think they are the Orders equivalent of the cornerstones. Also in the trailer we see a hand playing chess, I think the villain of the story might be a follower of the order & is manipulating events in order to bring about perfect Order, very similar to Annatar/Sauron if you will. So I think the order will be one of the three paths fighting for dominance on Amphoreus, alongsideside Rememberance and? I have no idea about the third path, we do see Herta is getting involved so I geuss the erudition?
Aglaea has Manikins in her splash art probably her summon/puppets. She's def a villain pulling strings She's also the narrator, and IF she's a history fictionoligist then her connection to the rememberance makes more sense she IS actively changing the lore of the planet by directly telling it to us
i'd also think Order but two planets where Ena is heavily involved in sounds like bit much, unless Penacony stuff with Order and Sunday was a set up for this. considering how new TB mission with Sunday is also prologue for Amphoreus then that might actually be the case
You can see the lore of herrscher of corruption she also acts forbidden knowledge but she corrupts in a large number and also during er arc elysia defeated her with 13 flamechasers
If the girl at the end of the trailer is really HSR's Elysia, then is highly possible that each heir is one of the 13 Flame Chasers from Impact 3rd. Some of them remind me of Su, Kevin and Kozma, and Aglaea is, to me at least, either Aponia or Eden
One of them (Cypher) is also pretty clearly Pardofelis, and one of the shadowed characters at the end is a dead ringer for Kalpas. I think it's reasonable to presume they're all going to be an expy of the HI3 Flame Chasers, if perhaps some to a greater degree than others.
@@KyuubiDragon4 it's heavily implied or even outright confirmed all of them are Flamechaser expys as the trailer mentions "flamechase", Thirteen of them in the trailer and thirteen Flamechasers, and some of them literally looks like the Flamechasers
@@AlittleD4ndelion I think it's more heavily implied than outright confirmed. They're definitely beating us over the head with the parallels, wording, and visual similarities, but at the same time some of the characters are different enough to not have clear counterparts to the HI3 group and could just as easily be cut from whole cloth (though to be clear I do not think this will be the case). For example, Tribbie is primarily presumed to be the Vill-V equivalent due to being described as "multi-faced", but has more visual resemblances to Griseo due to being a smol child, and even then she actually more visually resembles *Senadina* of all people. Visually, the character who looks the most like Vill-V is actually the fourth shadowed character, who seems to be wearing a tiny top-hat (and even then what I can see of that character's clothes reminds me more of adult Griseo).
@@KyuubiDragon4 mhm, we should just wait for the Trailblaze Mission to be released for the comformation. I'm just so excited cause I literally got heavily attached to the Flamechasers literally a day before the trailer was released
Yeah from what everyone who's played HI3 has said this story looks to be somewhat mirroring the Elysian Realm arc (Chapters 29-31). You hear flame chase a lot in the trailer mirroring the "Flame Chasers" of the Elysian Realm. For those who watched the trailer in JP the narrator is the same VA for Aponia, while our lovely Elysia is the final frame of the trailer. For those of you who've played HI3. The prophecy is indeed interesting "The Nameless King will go on a grand mission of Deliverance". If you remember, Kevin's signet in the Elysian Realm is Deliverance. 🤔 6:55 - Kalpas 7:15 - Su(most likely) 7:22 - This one I'm not sure of(Sakura maybe) 7:34 - Aglaea who is probably HSR Aponia 8:46 - Kevin(most likely) We do see Pardofelis, Griseo, and Elysia though there are some that are blacked out. There may also be just completely new characters.
I dont think the one you mention as Kalpas will be its paralel, as one of the shadowed ones seems to wear a mask and has a flame in his hand he is more probably to be Kalpas, this one is more likely to be Kosma as the beast motif and maybe a crazy thougth but maybe its Ato in this world instead of Kosma
One can not forget about the complex number Re^(itheta) and how IX will most likely have a substantial impact on Amphoreus’s lore. This is because of the angular variable theta that when occurs when one rotates a concept aka multiplication of imaginary numbers. Because Amphoreus will delve within Greek mythology, it will most likely delve into specific constants and variables such as pi (paimon) and theta (Thanatos) and i (imaginary). These three things all relate with the theory of transcending boundaries which goes above and beyond ascension. Transcending involves authority over the complex plane; whereas, ascending involves authority over only the imaginary tree. Imagine being able to manipulate both imaginary and real numbers. Since the expression theta= pi, e^(ipi)=-1, theta and pi will go more in depth regarding losses and negativity. Another reason why I think the trailblazer is unlocking the rememberance path early on in Amphoreus’s arc is because they will soon unlock the path of nihility. Acheron has already planted the seeds of doubt within the trailblazer’s mind and the theta within the trailblazer will soon manifest. There is no coincidence that mem resembles paimon; mem symbolizes the Greek constant pi symbolizing the trailblazer’s circular journey and a decaying sense of meaning.
Ironically, in mathematics theta most commonly refers to the angular variable; I prefer using m instead of theta when solving trigonometric problems; however, in Ancient Greek lore, theta refers to the number 9 and to death and decay. Interestingly, if you combine the significance of angles and the number 9, you would see that Dr. Ratio who symbolizes the ratio functions (sin, cos, tan, exp, log) involves the usage of theta connecting him to Amphoreus and Nihility even though he resembles elation the most. If Acheron somehow reappears in Amphoreus with the nickname “Theta” I won’t be surprised considering her connections to IX.
I just realized there are 13 characters this patch that means there could be 7 characters for the fate collab so there would be 20 characters in this patch like 2.0 to 2.7
The three faced could be a goddess and not an aeon in the first place. Hecate, the greek goddess of magic, was also called three faced goddess, for example
@@LunarFTWwell - the ER story, at the end of the day, was very romantic imo. Despite everything that goes down. I just hope Ely will truly survive this time around.
3.0 feels like the story of the Elysian realm but instead of being told from the future we seem to be experiencing it first hand and influencing the outcome The darkness and the eyes felt like a nod to Hi3 current era Herrscher of corruption. Ampherous as a planet also felt a lot similar to Hi3 earth where both worlds were hidden from the rest of the universe by some unknown reason (in Hi3 case it's the Cocoon) and the Trailblaze never arriving there
don't think it will exactly mirror ER. Shaoji wouldn't just rehash it in HSR. It will be different in many aspects but enough similarities to keep HI3 players interested and likely poorer as a result.
Maybe the three faced ones are actually the Trailblazers, the three faced one may actually be Hecate, a three faced goddess, that was also the goddess of paths and their crossing
As HI3rd player, so far what we know is the reference of 12 Heroes is 13 Flame chaster.. and thats it About the story, we still need to wait for 3.0 or at least wait for Special Program 3.0 because i believe we will got another trailer later There is a chance Hoyoverse will combine some part of Flame Chaster backstory with Greek Mythology...
And for HI3rd player who said this story will looks like Elysian Realms, i dont think so, because Elysian Realms a bit similar to the story in Penacony, and if they use that as a reference then the story will feel monotonous The only possibility in my mind is, they will use Flame-Chaser backstory as reference for the beginning of this story and using "Last Dance" as closing for this arc
For me the three paths here would have to be Remembrance linked with the manipulation of memories and time in general which seems to be central here, the black tide, and imagery of bad is inherently linked with Destruction also gloden blood imagery and eventually I'd pick the Enigmata for the "odyssey" story linked with a lot of legends that obscure the true story behind which probably intrigued The Herta to come to this place. Also the rainbow colors seems very linked to Enigmata too. Also why it wouldn't be Order cause it was just the plot of the previous planet and I doubt they want to dive back into it already and if they would it would be through Penacony honestly. Finality why not but seems a bit too early in terms of plotline in my opinion. Eventually Erudition could be a thing too but I like my initial theory better.
You know how the trailer says “A new venture in the eighth day”, based on natural progression, it was presumed that on the ninth day, there will be theta for Penacony. The ninth, tragic day of Penacony would likely be a trailblaze continuance mission after the amphoreus arc and will feature nihility’s carnage and infiltration of penacony forever rotating the fractured dream. There are a lot of signs from the progression of the days of penacony to the paimon “pi” analogy of mem, the emphasis of rotation and imaginary numbers being related to the Greek symbol theta both representing angular quantities and nine, and Acheron’s visit introducing nihility to penacony. Whenever the ninth day of penacony arrives, it will be massive.
The mark on Anaxa's hand is the same as one of the mark that represent the Titan, so I assuming each Chrysos Heirs have the authority to uses Titan power? And I don't think 12 Titan is an Emanator, for me it's more like a beings that were born from Aeons blessings
From the way they mention it in the trailer it seems that the heirs either inherited the titans powers or took them in some way but its certainly possible that perhaps the titans bless or allow them access to their powers like how aeons bless emanators
Honestly im pretty interested in the planet's environment (i am not about to type its name because its hard) is it gonna be mostly in ruins or is it gonna be like Penacony (where we get some normal looking places and some being completely distorted or somewhat in ruins), i can't wait to see what hoyo is cooking in 3.0
Thats a good point, perhaps its like penacony it starts off looking grand and beautiful and by the end we see how it truly looks like. Im pretty sure we might see a batttlefield or two before it ends
I imagine at some point we are going to converge on the major themes of most of these games, up till now we likely have just been experiencing events of (somewhat) isolated planets but in 3.0 we might start getting into the major plot
I believe that they write amphoreus story with some players having prior hi3 knowledge in mind so I expect some surprise. I'm not gonna throw in some hi3 spoilers. let's just enjoy the story together :)
Its definitely possible though im guessing it has to be different enough that those who didnt experience HI3 wont feel too confused or lost. But as you said lets see how it actually unfolds 😁
Imo its unlikely that the eye in the sky is ena, simply because it was said that it went quiet while war waged on. Ena's path is Order, so it makes no sense that she would stand idly by while war waged on right in front of her.
Whay you theorised for how the heirs may break away frim fate is actually rather similar to the Flamechasers from HI3. With the similar characters abd seeming story, i bet Shaoji is cooking fir this story as well
Every planet we've visited this far has involved a Stellaron so I'm banking on the root cause of this Black Tide being a Stellaron Disaster of some description.
Definitely, the stellaron is for sure involved in some way though like with penacony it might just be a plot tool as we didnt really see it in 2.0 at all and by the end it was just unceremoniously sealed. But who knows this might be the moment we actually learn of the stellarons lore, i mean maybe all this talk about gods are just a misdirect and in truth the people her gain powers from the stellarons instead
i remember someone commented in another video that the imagery of Amphoreus was similar to khaenri'ah (genshin), something to do with the black sun, i think. does anyone know about this?
Thats interesting, I wonder whether this is the in universe version of khaenriah though i stopped at around 5.1 the most weve of khaenriah are just the gates right
I was Like "are you dumb" somtimes in the theory Obviesly the titens are the aeons there simbills light Up around the Ball ween fings mentiond the titens did 2. Ane's path simbill IS a eyes so yas it IS Order relatet 3. Three faved Massanger IS the Girl showen wail it's Said because it's Said on Twitter to the Art of her
the HI3 remembrances are only for HI3 players. No need to get into it for sole HSR players unless you want to know why HI3 players are so emotional over them. This reaction is similar to how HI3 players first saw Himeko & Archeron Raiden Mei, but at x13 times since it was all done in one reveal.
simply paraphrasing and not 100% accurate to what he said, but kevin kaslana from hi3 calls himself a nameless hero on the path of deliverance, so that itself is most likely a reference to hi3 and not so much the name. the phainon fellow seems to be a variant of kevin in the hsr universe
"links to hi3?" no, i dont want to take this as a link. lets just get straight to the main problem. answer me this fellow captains and non captains, do you guys want hsr to be link to HI3? me personaly as a former captain, NO. because one thing. they are just in the same "universe", the story doesnt need to be linked. sure sparkle is in HI3 or rather if you put it in HI3 time period, in the past. and we still dont know if thats even canon or not, the only think that is confirmed(from what i'm seeing it) is the memo keeper. her dialog states that the world of HI3 is a world that cannot be detected by the aeon even akivili him/her(?) self. and CMIIW, i believe there is a dialog stated that those who came from outside the HI3 universe cant get in, and if they can get in they cant get out, unless a higher being such as the tuna goddess her self permits it. is that correct/ or sum it all? again CMIIW PLS. POLITELY. that's it. the story alone in HI3 is already a mess in terms of terminology. let alone the APHO isnt over yet.
* yeah, sure, there could be some captain that maybe want both games to be tied or link. but you need to realise something, not all of hsr player are a player of HI3. and if this gets link to HI3, they will need to play HI3 to understand whats going on. sure the game will have new player why not, but have you consider the time it will took to get to the point when both games got linked, IF they got linked. personaly for me i dont want this to get linked to HI3 (story wise, all of the link word means story wise), similar character sure, why not. similar back story, o kay but sure i guess that is acceptable. besides, hsr isnt about depression, or a red hair woman falling from the sky with cracks all over her body, or cripled girl who was experimented. or a russian child turn into a assasin. or a kid who was born in the mid 1900 who lost his dad, his hero figure, and has to be a saviour of human kind and has to live long to fulfill his mission. or a girl who lost her mom when she was still a todler, and lost her dad because he got framed(?). or, or a girl who gets experimented that led to an outbreak so big that a CHILD LOST HER FU*KING MOM CAUSE OF THIS OUTBREAK (thx to a certain individual, blonde hair ahem), AND THE DAD GOT TAKEN AWAY FROM HER INTO A "PRISON". right😈😈😈? idk man, im done.
Personally I would rather if there were hints or cameos but not a direct link. Might be because I never play HI3 and I wouldnt want to experience a story where I need to read up on a whole other thing 😂
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When they used the gold blood imagery I got really scared because I have a bad feeling Nanook is going to be involved
The black sun with golden blood (elden ring😅) is shown behind Nanook in the myriad celestia trailer. And there's also the chess player's hand shown in the trailer. This is one of the Lord Ravagers.
Yes, the gold flowing downwards eerily looks like nanook's thing
Personally i don't think so, as ichor (the blood of the gods in mythology) was golden. They could be literally speaking of anyone, as long as they are a deity. But i suppose we will need to wait and see
In classical Greek mythology, ichor was the golden blood of gods, so it could be a visual reference to the time of the gods ending and a new era dawning. That isn't to say Nanook couldn't be involved (particularly given the other visual cues ravelt mentioned above), but at this stage it isn't guaranteed.
The Japanese version of the live stream included the Trailblazers... Sadly English replaced them with March 7th
This trailer reflects the Elysian Realm from HI3rd, a truly tragic story. But the girl named “Cyrene” has assured us THIS story will be more romantic compared to the last. Elysia herself loved humanity and wanted to save them, but was unable to save her Era and could only affect the next cycle, so perhaps the Trailblazer will allow this group of Flame-Chasers to truly become heroes and save their world, or perhaps it has already ended and we are remembering these heroes and that is why we have the Rememberance path. After all, the truth of the thirteen as Elysia tells us is they are people who never became heroes, they had an unfinished journey, and is buried by time. Then she simply tells us to be a witness to their prideful lives to the end.
I think that we are going to alter their story and the Era to save the world bc since Sunday is part of the express and rmc we can say for sure them two might be able to and also the possibility of 5 star march bc we can see each hero have an different area/realm/Era so we can assume that march might play a strong role as well
Black Swan also confirms that the only way to enter Amphoreous is through the Rememberance so I think we will experience memories of Amphoreous and create a new future
@@pokeygem6783 Wdym Sunday is part of the express?
@@4g3nt06 a theory, a scene from the trailer, and an unconfirmed leak suggest sunday is going to join the trailblaze, for a bit. There is 2 "possibilities", sunday is going to straight up join the nameless or join the stellaron hunters and join us by command from the prophet.
I haven't checked if those are confirmed yet, but those exist.
@@4g3nt06 in the livestream the express said that we kidnapped him in a way
Let's not Forget that the History Fictionoligists are supposed to be there as well so a decent amount of the Lore can/should be hidden away
I'm calling it now, Agelae is a villain/history Fiction pulling strings and hidding the past/truth by DIRECTLY telling us the "Lore" in the trailer
@@NiaTheMilkTankIhave to remember your comment. I don't know why but I feel it can be the case
@@NiaTheMilkTanki mean it's already happening in the golden epic trailer there's two names of the twelve that wasn't shown, its in the description
I have a video coming out soon where one of the discussion topics is guessing who the 3 paths/aeons are and tbh theres a lot of hints a bout a few of them. So maybe this place is literally the land of gods and most of them might be involved in some way, mythus included
The Black Tide could be Nihility, or it could be the Stellarons. A lot of the imagery reminded me of Deshret unleashing the corruption of Forbidden Knowledge in Genshin, and in Star Rail the closest match to Abyssal corruption is the "cancer of all worlds". Just my early impression from the trailer.
The way the black tide was shown reminded me of the forbidden knowledge in genshin as well but with how many times the word gloom is used I just felt it was somethign to do with nihility. That said every story by this point involves a stellaron in some way so one (or even a few) may very well make an appearance, maybe the people here even source their strength from it and all this talk about gods is just a mislead
For me, it seems that the order has a part to play in this story.
Not only do we see the eyes that are very similar if not identical to order, but we also see hands that look like that of a manikin's, similar to Ene.
We also know that a lot of the planets that followed the order fell due to inner conflict, much like amphoreus did. It also proves more since it was said that the world was originally in chaos before the titans appeared. What's the opposite of chaos? Order, so it would make sense why Ene cast her gaze upon the planet.
So I think the titans were either creations of Ene sent to bring order or they where eminators of the order.
I also think that the flamechasers are very similar to the ten stonehearts. A cornerstone holds a portion of an eminators power since a core flame contains the titan's powers. I think they are the Orders equivalent of the cornerstones.
Also in the trailer we see a hand playing chess, I think the villain of the story might be a follower of the order & is manipulating events in order to bring about perfect Order, very similar to Annatar/Sauron if you will.
So I think the order will be one of the three paths fighting for dominance on Amphoreus, alongsideside Rememberance and?
I have no idea about the third path, we do see Herta is getting involved so I geuss the erudition?
Aglaea has Manikins in her splash art probably her summon/puppets.
She's def a villain pulling strings
She's also the narrator, and IF she's a history fictionoligist then her connection to the rememberance makes more sense she IS actively changing the lore of the planet by directly telling it to us
i'd also think Order but two planets where Ena is heavily involved in sounds like bit much, unless Penacony stuff with Order and Sunday was a set up for this.
considering how new TB mission with Sunday is also prologue for Amphoreus then that might actually be the case
ena isn't the only one that has Eyes as a theme. Mythus also has it
mythus also has Greek ties (look at its aeon art) and there's supposed to be History fictionoligists on Amphorus
@@NiaTheMilkTank Mythus being there makes sense considering it was said to have been split from Fuli and we already know that Remembrance is involved
You can see the lore of herrscher of corruption she also acts forbidden knowledge but she corrupts in a large number and also during er arc elysia defeated her with 13 flamechasers
If the girl at the end of the trailer is really HSR's Elysia, then is highly possible that each heir is one of the 13 Flame Chasers from Impact 3rd. Some of them remind me of Su, Kevin and Kozma, and Aglaea is, to me at least, either Aponia or Eden
They literally said
"Flame chase"
In the trailer, they aren't trying to hide it
One of them (Cypher) is also pretty clearly Pardofelis, and one of the shadowed characters at the end is a dead ringer for Kalpas. I think it's reasonable to presume they're all going to be an expy of the HI3 Flame Chasers, if perhaps some to a greater degree than others.
@@KyuubiDragon4 it's heavily implied or even outright confirmed all of them are Flamechaser expys as the trailer mentions "flamechase", Thirteen of them in the trailer and thirteen Flamechasers, and some of them literally looks like the Flamechasers
@@AlittleD4ndelion I think it's more heavily implied than outright confirmed. They're definitely beating us over the head with the parallels, wording, and visual similarities, but at the same time some of the characters are different enough to not have clear counterparts to the HI3 group and could just as easily be cut from whole cloth (though to be clear I do not think this will be the case). For example, Tribbie is primarily presumed to be the Vill-V equivalent due to being described as "multi-faced", but has more visual resemblances to Griseo due to being a smol child, and even then she actually more visually resembles *Senadina* of all people. Visually, the character who looks the most like Vill-V is actually the fourth shadowed character, who seems to be wearing a tiny top-hat (and even then what I can see of that character's clothes reminds me more of adult Griseo).
@@KyuubiDragon4 mhm, we should just wait for the Trailblaze Mission to be released for the comformation. I'm just so excited cause I literally got heavily attached to the Flamechasers literally a day before the trailer was released
Yeah from what everyone who's played HI3 has said this story looks to be somewhat mirroring the Elysian Realm arc (Chapters 29-31). You hear flame chase a lot in the trailer mirroring the "Flame Chasers" of the Elysian Realm. For those who watched the trailer in JP the narrator is the same VA for Aponia, while our lovely Elysia is the final frame of the trailer. For those of you who've played HI3. The prophecy is indeed interesting "The Nameless King will go on a grand mission of Deliverance". If you remember, Kevin's signet in the Elysian Realm is Deliverance. 🤔
6:55 - Kalpas
7:15 - Su(most likely)
7:22 - This one I'm not sure of(Sakura maybe)
7:34 - Aglaea who is probably HSR Aponia
8:46 - Kevin(most likely)
We do see Pardofelis, Griseo, and Elysia though there are some that are blacked out. There may also be just completely new characters.
I dont think the one you mention as Kalpas will be its paralel, as one of the shadowed ones seems to wear a mask and has a flame in his hand he is more probably to be Kalpas, this one is more likely to be Kosma as the beast motif and maybe a crazy thougth but maybe its Ato in this world instead of Kosma
One can not forget about the complex number Re^(itheta) and how IX will most likely have a substantial impact on Amphoreus’s lore. This is because of the angular variable theta that when occurs when one rotates a concept aka multiplication of imaginary numbers. Because Amphoreus will delve within Greek mythology, it will most likely delve into specific constants and variables such as pi (paimon) and theta (Thanatos) and i (imaginary). These three things all relate with the theory of transcending boundaries which goes above and beyond ascension. Transcending involves authority over the complex plane; whereas, ascending involves authority over only the imaginary tree. Imagine being able to manipulate both imaginary and real numbers. Since the expression theta= pi, e^(ipi)=-1, theta and pi will go more in depth regarding losses and negativity.
Another reason why I think the trailblazer is unlocking the rememberance path early on in Amphoreus’s arc is because they will soon unlock the path of nihility. Acheron has already planted the seeds of doubt within the trailblazer’s mind and the theta within the trailblazer will soon manifest. There is no coincidence that mem resembles paimon; mem symbolizes the Greek constant pi symbolizing the trailblazer’s circular journey and a decaying sense of meaning.
Ironically, in mathematics theta most commonly refers to the angular variable; I prefer using m instead of theta when solving trigonometric problems; however, in Ancient Greek lore, theta refers to the number 9 and to death and decay. Interestingly, if you combine the significance of angles and the number 9, you would see that Dr. Ratio who symbolizes the ratio functions (sin, cos, tan, exp, log) involves the usage of theta connecting him to Amphoreus and Nihility even though he resembles elation the most. If Acheron somehow reappears in Amphoreus with the nickname “Theta” I won’t be surprised considering her connections to IX.
"Say...my name
When a tree...susurrates
Once and again telling a story lost in time
The way it starts and the way it ends..."
I just realized there are 13 characters this patch that means there could be 7 characters for the fate collab so there would be 20 characters in this patch like 2.0 to 2.7
No in between 3.x to 4.x there going to be xianzhou lore likely from 3.4-3.5 like before so thats 4 chars from Xianzhou
The three faced could be a goddess and not an aeon in the first place. Hecate, the greek goddess of magic, was also called three faced goddess, for example
But if the word from a certain pink woman is true
Amphoreus will be a romantic story
A positive and wholesome story, I'm sure. No deaths, surely.
@@LunarFTWwell - the ER story, at the end of the day, was very romantic imo. Despite everything that goes down. I just hope Ely will truly survive this time around.
3.0 feels like the story of the Elysian realm but instead of being told from the future we seem to be experiencing it first hand and influencing the outcome
The darkness and the eyes felt like a nod to Hi3 current era Herrscher of corruption.
Ampherous as a planet also felt a lot similar to Hi3 earth where both worlds were hidden from the rest of the universe by some unknown reason (in Hi3 case it's the Cocoon) and the Trailblaze never arriving there
I feel like this entire story will mirror the Elysian Realm the parallels are too obvious.
You should dive into HI3 my guy!
don't think it will exactly mirror ER. Shaoji wouldn't just rehash it in HSR. It will be different in many aspects but enough similarities to keep HI3 players interested and likely poorer as a result.
@@prastagus3it seems the writers for 3.0+ won’t be shaoji but another HI3rd writer which will be interesting
@@Gottaloveaxolotls as long as most of them gets a less tragic ending, I will be happy.
@@GottaloveaxolotlsIt actually will be the writer who did Elysian Realm!
Then that is lazy writing, who in the right mind makes 2 games with very, very similar stories?
Maybe the three faced ones are actually the Trailblazers, the three faced one may actually be Hecate, a three faced goddess, that was also the goddess of paths and their crossing
As HI3rd player, so far what we know is the reference of 12 Heroes is 13 Flame chaster.. and thats it
About the story, we still need to wait for 3.0 or at least wait for Special Program 3.0 because i believe we will got another trailer later
There is a chance Hoyoverse will combine some part of Flame Chaster backstory with Greek Mythology...
And for HI3rd player who said this story will looks like Elysian Realms, i dont think so, because Elysian Realms a bit similar to the story in Penacony, and if they use that as a reference then the story will feel monotonous
The only possibility in my mind is, they will use Flame-Chaser backstory as reference for the beginning of this story and using "Last Dance" as closing for this arc
I play hi3 and while the honkai does bring destruction it’s never really described as “black” that’s my two cents
For me the three paths here would have to be Remembrance linked with the manipulation of memories and time in general which seems to be central here, the black tide, and imagery of bad is inherently linked with Destruction also gloden blood imagery and eventually I'd pick the Enigmata for the "odyssey" story linked with a lot of legends that obscure the true story behind which probably intrigued The Herta to come to this place. Also the rainbow colors seems very linked to Enigmata too.
Also why it wouldn't be Order cause it was just the plot of the previous planet and I doubt they want to dive back into it already and if they would it would be through Penacony honestly. Finality why not but seems a bit too early in terms of plotline in my opinion. Eventually Erudition could be a thing too but I like my initial theory better.
You know how the trailer says “A new venture in the eighth day”, based on natural progression, it was presumed that on the ninth day, there will be theta for Penacony. The ninth, tragic day of Penacony would likely be a trailblaze continuance mission after the amphoreus arc and will feature nihility’s carnage and infiltration of penacony forever rotating the fractured dream. There are a lot of signs from the progression of the days of penacony to the paimon “pi” analogy of mem, the emphasis of rotation and imaginary numbers being related to the Greek symbol theta both representing angular quantities and nine, and Acheron’s visit introducing nihility to penacony. Whenever the ninth day of penacony arrives, it will be massive.
The mark on Anaxa's hand is the same as one of the mark that represent the Titan, so I assuming each Chrysos Heirs have the authority to uses Titan power? And I don't think 12 Titan is an Emanator, for me it's more like a beings that were born from Aeons blessings
From the way they mention it in the trailer it seems that the heirs either inherited the titans powers or took them in some way but its certainly possible that perhaps the titans bless or allow them access to their powers like how aeons bless emanators
Honestly im pretty interested in the planet's environment (i am not about to type its name because its hard) is it gonna be mostly in ruins or is it gonna be like Penacony (where we get some normal looking places and some being completely distorted or somewhat in ruins), i can't wait to see what hoyo is cooking in 3.0
Thats a good point, perhaps its like penacony it starts off looking grand and beautiful and by the end we see how it truly looks like. Im pretty sure we might see a batttlefield or two before it ends
Considering he has not played Honkai 3rd, his conjunctures about amphoreus story having a colleration with Acheron's background story is genius ngl
I imagine at some point we are going to converge on the major themes of most of these games, up till now we likely have just been experiencing events of (somewhat) isolated planets but in 3.0 we might start getting into the major plot
I believe that they write amphoreus story with some players having prior hi3 knowledge in mind so I expect some surprise. I'm not gonna throw in some hi3 spoilers. let's just enjoy the story together :)
Its definitely possible though im guessing it has to be different enough that those who didnt experience HI3 wont feel too confused or lost. But as you said lets see how it actually unfolds 😁
Imo its unlikely that the eye in the sky is ena, simply because it was said that it went quiet while war waged on. Ena's path is Order, so it makes no sense that she would stand idly by while war waged on right in front of her.
or that ena's influence ended when they were absorbed into Xipe
Whay you theorised for how the heirs may break away frim fate is actually rather similar to the Flamechasers from HI3. With the similar characters abd seeming story, i bet Shaoji is cooking fir this story as well
Shaoji is no longer the lead writer for 3.X main stories
@@neil3500 is that confirmed?
The Japanese version of the live stream included the Trailblazers... Sadly English replaced them with March 7th
Really? Do you mean in the special program with the chibi figures?
Every planet we've visited this far has involved a Stellaron so I'm banking on the root cause of this Black Tide being a Stellaron Disaster of some description.
Definitely, the stellaron is for sure involved in some way though like with penacony it might just be a plot tool as we didnt really see it in 2.0 at all and by the end it was just unceremoniously sealed. But who knows this might be the moment we actually learn of the stellarons lore, i mean maybe all this talk about gods are just a misdirect and in truth the people her gain powers from the stellarons instead
i think the sun here might be the stellaron
Chaos? isn't Musashi cut their portal and chase them away already?
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i remember someone commented in another video that the imagery of Amphoreus was similar to khaenri'ah (genshin), something to do with the black sun, i think. does anyone know about this?
Thats interesting, I wonder whether this is the in universe version of khaenriah though i stopped at around 5.1 the most weve of khaenriah are just the gates right
I think almost all of the Aeons will be involved.
Wait for the next video coming out 😂
I was Like "are you dumb" somtimes in the theory
Obviesly the titens are the aeons there simbills light Up around the Ball ween fings mentiond the titens did
2. Ane's path simbill IS a eyes so yas it IS Order relatet
3. Three faved Massanger IS the Girl showen wail it's Said because it's Said on Twitter to the Art of her
the HI3 remembrances are only for HI3 players. No need to get into it for sole HSR players unless you want to know why HI3 players are so emotional over them.
This reaction is similar to how HI3 players first saw Himeko & Archeron Raiden Mei, but at x13 times since it was all done in one reveal.
If someone really feels hsr is boring, at this current time, please invite me to your daily activities. I bet you're an astronaut
Its a possibility thought to be honest HSR is the game im currently the most invested in personally
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Pointy stick of defense mentioned 🗣🗣
Baseball bat of destruction, pointy stick of defense and the black hat of dance. What would be next?
simply paraphrasing and not 100% accurate to what he said, but kevin kaslana from hi3 calls himself a nameless hero on the path of deliverance, so that itself is most likely a reference to hi3 and not so much the name. the phainon fellow seems to be a variant of kevin in the hsr universe
"links to hi3?" no, i dont want to take this as a link. lets just get straight to the main problem.
answer me this fellow captains and non captains, do you guys want hsr to be link to HI3? me personaly as a former captain, NO. because one thing. they are just in the same "universe", the story doesnt need to be linked. sure sparkle is in HI3 or rather if you put it in HI3 time period, in the past. and we still dont know if thats even canon or not, the only think that is confirmed(from what i'm seeing it) is the memo keeper. her dialog states that the world of HI3 is a world that cannot be detected by the aeon even akivili him/her(?) self. and CMIIW, i believe there is a dialog stated that those who came from outside the HI3 universe cant get in, and if they can get in they cant get out, unless a higher being such as the tuna goddess her self permits it. is that correct/ or sum it all? again CMIIW PLS. POLITELY. that's it. the story alone in HI3 is already a mess in terms of terminology. let alone the APHO isnt over yet.
* yeah, sure, there could be some captain that maybe want both games to be tied or link. but you need to realise something, not all of hsr player are a player of HI3. and if this gets link to HI3, they will need to play HI3 to understand whats going on. sure the game will have new player why not, but have you consider the time it will took to get to the point when both games got linked, IF they got linked. personaly for me i dont want this to get linked to HI3 (story wise, all of the link word means story wise), similar character sure, why not. similar back story, o kay but sure i guess that is acceptable. besides, hsr isnt about depression, or a red hair woman falling from the sky with cracks all over her body, or cripled girl who was experimented. or a russian child turn into a assasin. or a kid who was born in the mid 1900 who lost his dad, his hero figure, and has to be a saviour of human kind and has to live long to fulfill his mission. or a girl who lost her mom when she was still a todler, and lost her dad because he got framed(?). or, or a girl who gets experimented that led to an outbreak so big that a CHILD LOST HER FU*KING MOM CAUSE OF THIS OUTBREAK (thx to a certain individual, blonde hair ahem), AND THE DAD GOT TAKEN AWAY FROM HER INTO A "PRISON". right😈😈😈? idk man, im done.
Personally I would rather if there were hints or cameos but not a direct link. Might be because I never play HI3 and I wouldnt want to experience a story where I need to read up on a whole other thing 😂