Jim Cornette on What If Randy Savage Went To The NWA Instead Of The WWF
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I think that Randy Savage at his peak, was the Greatest Pro Wrstler of all time taking into consideration ability, athleticism, presentation, promos, timing, and presence....
That's why I think Savage should be in more arguments for the best ever. When you start breaking it down by what qualities make a great professional wrestler, he gets the most points. I would put him number one in some abilities all time, but even if he wasn't number one in any of them, he is top ten in more categories than anyone else.
What’s awesome is savage never picked any of his names. Macho man was coined by his baseball teammates for how he acted aggressively on the field, savage was from ole Anderson and randy was from his parents. God bless him though, the most underrated wrestler ever for what he meant to the business and how fucking little the wwe pays attention tribute to him. They give so much to flair and we all know wHHHY that is
Savage was tailor made for The WWF and he came along at just the right time.In 1988/89 The Macho Man was on a par with Hogan.He was a huge Star.
I hear what you saying Red Rebel but Macho Man was in Wwf in 85.
If Savage even Miss Elizabeth both jumped to NWA you may expect a nasty rivalry with Ric Flair and The Four Horsemen.
I remember watching a promo on Randy going to the Mid South but dont remember ever seeing him on the show
I can see Randy Savage vs. Jimmy Garvin, with Elizabeth vs. Precious catfights.
Macho man randy savage would had been a star ⭐️ in the NWA
Randy planned some matches. Bret hart said that he and randy had excellent matches with no planning beforehand. Bret has great respect for randy. Good enough for me.
Randy was the fastest wrestler I've ever seen. He would sprint to the ring, slide in, jump over the top rope, land on the floor and slide back in the ring before someone like Hulk Hogan could walk up the stairs.
paul coy Search for Masato Yoshino from Dragon Gate
paul coy.Fast and Graceful.Savage was a Joy to watch in his prime.
Hell ya!! Savage was a BELIEVABLE high flyer! The way he moved around that ring was graceful as hell! U could tell he was legit a great natural athlete! And he was a smaller heavyweight BUT not a crusierweight or light heavyweight type. So he had the agility of the light heavies BUT was smart enough to keep brawling, technique, and strength up to par as well. Would use those three elements to SET UP his high aerial assault!
Savage was fast but could never put asses in the seats or sell merch like Hogan. Gay fanboys love dismissing Hogan yet Randy could never carry a company on his back. Most wrestlers were slower then, different business then and Hogan surely wasn't the slowest but hey, gay fanboys will bring his name up without reason or purpose
@@1980Triumph His presence and intensity may have keep him down further in the company in spite of his physical gifts. I wish he had more comedy skills to round out his character, but we got what we got.
It would have a Randy Savage-Magnum TA feud.
That would have been a good feud . I also think Savage Flair would have been a decent feud too. I think Savage would have NWA champ
I can see that happening
Savage would have been a good NWA Champion.
Had Randy went to Crockett, he would have done well but not as well as his legendary WWF run. His work, charisma and intensity would have fit well in the music video era of 80’s Mid South or Crockett. If you watch Crockett Promotions TV from 84-85, you will notice them going in a more sports entertainment direction with the production and music videos as they started expanding into places like Chicago, Philadelphia and Los Angeles. Randy would have been huge no matter where he went because he was a once in a lifetime talent.
He would have done well most places, but it's hard to imagine he would have become as iconic as he did outside the WWF. On a mainstream basis (outside of wrestling fans), he probably became the most recognizable wrestler in the world after Hogan. As big as they were, the top NWA stars like Flair and Dusty never attained that kind of mainstream pop culture celebrity.
Tim F: I think he would've been a top star but he probably would've had to "tone" his gimmick down. Not change it per say but make the "Macho Man" more serious. When you went to Vince- he'd up your outlandishness to 11.
As it was- WWF was the perfect territory for him.
He would have been a top star anywhere, but from a celebrity and money making perspective, the WWF was the place to be once it's popularity blew up in the mid to late 80's. As popular as Crockett was, they couldn't touch the WWF when it came to being a pop cultural force.
@@cretinousjester3475 Nah Macho had to tame the craziness in WWF. He was wilder before and after WWF.
Well his brother (Batista) David Orton is better worker&more talented than him. Randy orton is way to stuck on himself he travels the world all he ever sees is a mirror look at me am so precious.
Randy's meticulous match prep wouldn't have worked in the traveling NWA champion role. You had to be flexible, like Race, Flair, Brisco, and Funk- to make whichever top babyface you were putting over look good, whether brawler, technician, green or veteran.
But, once it settled in JCP, I think he would have been a great addition to the roster, and a top heel not in the 4 Horsemen better than some of the non-tag teams they had. Never liked him as a face, he was better as a heel.
I use to watch Wrestling in the 70's. Thursday nights at the Norfolk Scope. Mid-Atlantic area of the NWA. If Wahoo or Ric Flair were not on the card it was held in the Scope Exhibition Center One such night I saw a tag team make their area debut. One guy was muscularly built but not very big. He had jean shorts on. The other was even smaller, but was a supposed high flyer. He botched hims ring entrance flip and from then on they were laughed out of the building. They were really a bad team over all. The Poffo Brothers. "Leaping" Lanny & Randy Poffo...so Macho man was in the NWA LOL!!
Angelo Lanny and Randy all worked in various NWA territories prior to starting ICW. If I’m not mistaken Angelo and Lanny were tag team champs in The Sheiks Detroit promotion.
Randy worked for Nick Gulas in Nashville and was the MidAmerican champion.
Willnchicago: Which gives the now late great Bobby Eaton something in common with Randy Savage. Each held The NWA MidAmerica Championship at a certain point in his career. And Eaton did so under the tutelage of both Jim Cornette and Jimmy Hart.🤔B.W.
You have good taste my friend.....Oooooooooooh Yeah!
The question should be reformatted as "What if Savage went to JCP and Flair wasn't there?"
With or without Flair, Savage was twice the star Flair was. He would have risen above Flair and Flair would have cried and quit. He'd get his WWE title run and then he'd be back wanting his old title back..
Randy would have fit just fine in the NWA in the 2nd half of the 80s. Whether as a heel working with Dusty, Magnum, Nikita, Luger, Windham or as a face working with Horsemen, Russians
Dont forget One Man Gang went to Mid South
Randy Savage did technically work for the NWA. Since he worked for CWA in 1984 after ICW folded, and since at that time CWA was still a member of the NWA (they would be until 1986), Savage worked in NWA technically. I know the AWA title was also defended in Memphis, but the CWA was still part of the Alliance until 1986. And I'm betting that the question probably pertained to Jim Crockett Promotions, rather than the entire NWA. Just sayin'. Lol.
He worked in Georgia before that
He worked for the Sheik in Detroit and also for Nick Gulas and even had a cup of coffee in Mid Atlantic very early in his career
All i know is i frickin Love Bruce Prichardson!
He could have been a horseman. He was an excellent technical wrestler. People say he was too over the top for tbe promotion, but flair had sparkly robes too
Savage was too big for the horsemen. They were just mid tier guys trying to elevate Flair.
Can't picture savage on a suit tho
@@natalieparker5928 you are deluded. They were the best talent in the business. Savage couldn't fill their role of making the faces look good while still retaining their heat.
@@jaythor70 your wrong, savage would have been the man
@@melekelewis2945 Don't use improper grammar and then not back up your claim with what you think he would have provided to enhancing the faces.
Ice I am an expert on Randy Savage. He was born to be the best. And I seen it all happen.
Randy would have been the perfect replacement for Piper in mid atlantic.
The nwa would have given Savage a push until he lost to Flair in a pay per view, then lost in the shuffle.
No he wouldn't. Savage would have had to trade title victories with Flair for years. Savage would have been a 22 time world champ if he wrestled in NWA as long as Flair.
I agree about Randy being a better territory top guy wrestling the touring champion, than being the touring champion. Randy could get the crowd to eat out of his hands as both a face or heel.
Before WWF Randy Savage worked in Puerto Rico WWC in the early 80's against Carlos Colon, Hercules Ayala, The Invader 3 among others. His father Angelo Poffo also worked for Carlos Colon in the late 70's.
I knew I wasn't crazy cause I remember hearing his name in Puerto Rico and seeing some of his matches in Puerto Rico I was only a couple of years old when he came to the island
They'd put him against jimmy valiant the best wrestler against the worst
who is talking with jim cornette
Brian Last
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If Randy would have went to NWA he would have only made half the money. Would have only been half as big and would have loosing to guys who weren’t as over as he was. He made the right choice
I can tell you his story better than anybody alive.
Savage would have been lost in the shuffle with Crockett. McMahon knew how to promote and make stars back in the 80s, so the WWF was the best option.
I thought Savage did work in Mid-South...wasn’t Savage tag-teaming with Magnum TA supposed to be one of the reasons Wrestling II turned on him?...or maybe that was just a trumped up story in PWI....
Cheshire Tiger, actually it bugged me enough that I looked it up: Savage and T.A. teamed up for the 1983 Thanksgiving Day annual tag-team tournament at the Omni in Atlanta. They made it to the finals but lost to Butch Reed and Pez Whatley. Mr. Wrestling II had been mentoring TA in Mid-South and they used TA’s teaming with Savage (historically, a villain) and the beginning of a rift between II and TA...I was wrong about them tag-teaming in Mid-South, though
Yes he worked there for a cup of cofee with his brother.
Road warrior hawk punched Randy Savage in the locker room in Japan and KO'd him cold as he was on his way to the ring they played macho mans song twice and he never appeared for the match can't remember who was wrestling him that night left standing in the ring with no macho man.
Road Warrior Hawk Would Later Be Punched And KO'd By Undertaker LOL Talk About Karma Hawk Had It Coming He Messed With The Wrong Deadman
Ur wrong Jim Corrnette.
Dusty would have buried him.😎
Warren Sharp Interesting to say considering Savage seemed to be Dusty's biggest feud in the WWF.
@@ChrisDavis-jp8wq i agree. Savage was great but he wasn't Hulk Hogan in 1983 where he was automatically going to be the top man
Savage made Hogan look like a straight up goof.
That is stupid and untrue.
you're an idiot for saying that
40 percent of people in wrestling die so so early:(
2nd!!!
i hate Savave for his treatment of elizabeth. Ditto for luger.
Randy Savage is Elizabeth's actual husband. When one gets married it is until death do us part. And Luger was married when he fooled around with her. Which was wrong. And he drugged her. Savage was just over protective of her due to obvious reasons.
Luger had drugs where he & Elizabeth were but he didn't force her to take them, she did that on her own
Randy in NWA would have been Midcard. Cause better Talent in NWA.
No one in NWA is overshadowing the Macho Man. By 85 through 86 no one was a better character.
you a fool, Randy would have been the best and he's better than flair.
@@melekelewis2945 Flair beat Macho Twice for the title WWF, WCW.
@@dr.roberts4508 so what, it's not about who won it's about who did what in ring.You must not know how wrestling operates.Flair does the same thing in the ring, Randy matches are not the same like flair, Randy more versatile.Ita about who can work in the ring.Learn wrestling
@@melekelewis2945 I might give savage more credit if he didn't kiss
Hogan's Ass so much. If Savage
Had gone WCW instead of WWF
He would have stood apart more
Than his WWF run . but for a career WWF a much better move.