The simple fact you'll walk across the shop to grab it over the hammer at your hands speaks volumes to me. That's awesome and the 'damage' it had taken all the use isn't that much over all. Anvil vs hammer war the hammer should always lose with the anvil not showing damage. That's a awesome hammer and the tape is like putting a hat on your head just adds to your looks if you know what I mean 🥰
The Titanium hammer was a game changer for me. I used to frame houses. And spent the money to get a framing hammer made of titanium. Big difference from day one.
Yeah I worked with some guys who all had $200 titanium framing hammers (i think they had interchangeable steel faces, the whole rest of the hammer was titanium) and I got to swing one of theirs a couple times, it felt like cheating after using a steel Estwing my entire life.
yah, titanium framing hammers are so nice to use. only wish the waffle lasted longer before smoothing out. if used frequently, i end up having to disk-grind a new waffle into the head every couple of months
I'm a carpenter of 40+ years and have never used a titanium hammer. The experienced carpenters, I know and trust, swear that the lighter weight is compensated when stored energy is released from the hammer into the work. If you are swinging a hammer all day, and your hand does not go numb or elbow swell, you have a great hammer. 🤘🦊👍
You can get a titanium hammer in the weight of your regular framing hammer, the benefit comes from how the titanium handles the shock. I don't know all the sciency Parts but it doesn't transfer as much of the energy to your bones as steel does.
Stored energy? Are you actually stupid? A lighter hammer will not hit harder unless you are swinging it much faster and the easy of hardening steel makes steel hammers superior. This titanium hammer is in fact a stupid idea and the only benefit is psychological.
When Lockheed was learning how to work with titanium on the SR-71, they realized that steel tools would transfer corrosion onto the surface of the titanium. The solution was to swap out standard, steel tools for titanium ones.
Tim, great video, glad to see the update on the hammer, since I remember the original video. Titanium has a lot of cool properties, some that might play a part in why the hammer works so well. Depending on the alloy (can't remember which you used) it has a lower coefficient of restitution than steel, so it won't bounce back quite as much, likely saving your elbow. It also has a much lower thermal conductivity than steel, so it will take less heat out of the piece you're working on than a steel hammer. It also can alloy with materials your work with, so it wouldn't surprise me if the face of your hammer has a good amount of iron in it now. Titanium work hardens, so you're making it better every time you swing.
thanks for the information, i have noticed on his original video when he hit gently the anvil, it sounded a bit "hollow-like" sound, maybe because it has a lower coefficient of restitution? (a concept i just google it and learn thanks to you!)
I remember watching the original video and thinking that it looked sick and would be a sick lighter yet reasonably big hammer. I think that The mushrooming was caused simply by having corners that are too sharp. Just change the handle and regrind the face and peen, maybe radius the edges a bit more and im site that it will be a brand new and better tool! Been watching you for a long time mate, absolutely amazing stuff!
Titanium is worth it just because it absorbs so much more shock, which is easier on your joints and better for your health in the long run. Stay lit. 🔥
This! Very much this! I heard the story once, of a custom bicycle frame builder, who explained that any road bicycle with a titanium frame would ride soooo incredibly smooth that it wouldn't need shocks, whereas a steel framed bicycle would definitely improve with a set of front shock absorbers in the fork.
In the cycling world, titanium frames are highly regarded for the same reasons - they absorb vibration better than steel and they're much lighter. I would love to see a titanium Damascus hammer if you're wanting to update the look!
Could steel faces be dovetailed/pinned to a titanium core to toughen the striking areas whilst retaining the shock absorption? It'd be ridiculously overkill design wise, but would it work?
I wouldn't use dovetails in an impact tool as it'd work itself apart with use. Honestly, if shocks are an issue, use a birch handle or wrap some leather around it. If you're a blacksmith and shocks bother you, you're holding it too tight. If you absolutely want to use titanium, I'd try to make the eye way oversized and fitting a sleeve as thick as I could, but then you'd have to worry about the steel cracking.
@@bjrn-oskarrnning2740 another thing I've seen for reducing shock in both hammers and axes is to orient the wood grain parallel to the striking face (or edge). It's so common now to see wood handles with the grain perpendicular to the striking face, for "strength and longevity of the handle", but if you change the grain orientation and shave the handle in a way in which you preserve the outer growth ring for the back of the handle (similar to bow making, but opposite), the handle gains some spring, but also absorbs a lot of shock and lasts far longer at the same time. Mr. Chickadee has a great video explaining this.
Titanium framing hammers are sweet. I have used one for about 20 years now. There are times when a heaver hammer is needed, but most tasks titanium hammers are great.
Your video on forging that hammer was the first one of yours I ever saw. At the time, I was looking for some information on machining titanium and that video came up in my search. Not what I was looking for then, but it was very intriguing. Although I really don't have a lot of interest in forging things myself, I've been subscribed to your channel ever since. You have a way of making it interesting. You stated that you will walk across your shop to get that hammer in this video. You've stated that before, and that statement speaks volumes. I'm more than intrigued. You have a priceless gem in that there hammer. Keep the forge lit. Keep the hammer swinging.
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Force equals mass times acceleration: the faster you swing the hammer relatively speaking the more force it will have… I’m just thinking out loud here. Timmy keep up the good content I absolutely love it! You are a true craftsman
An even more important equation is kinetic energy = 1/2 * mass * velocity^2. So if you double the mass you double the energy, but if you double the speed you quadruple the energy. You get a much better bang for you buck by swinging a lighter hammer faster than a heavier hammer slower. I'm sure there's lots more consideration physiologically and metallurgically though that I don't know as much about
Loved that video. It's always cool to see a new video Timothy. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years to come my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep The Forge Lit. Keep Making. God Bless.
I think seeing your original video has lead me onto some research back when I watched it. I have read something about titanium being able to transfer more kinetic energy than steel. So it would make sense that it is less tiring to use. it would mean it has less energy to transfer back at you after you hit something
@@JaapGrootveld You haven't factored in the elastic/non-elastic effect of metals, eg bounce a ball bearing off of a quality anvil and then try bouncing it off a similar shaped lump of normal steel, the anvil will bounce the ball a lot higher than the steel. This all boils down to the right balance to get energy to transfer into the workpiece rather than back into the handle of the hammer
@@JaapGrootveld kinetic energy is 1/2mass x velocity^2 (momentum is mass x velocity) increasing speed has a much greater effect on kinetic energy than its mass does.
I used to have a roofing hammer that was made out of some sort of aluminum alloy. Was the best at driving nails for 10 hours a day. Light hammers don't get the recognition for what they are. Heavy hammers are great for bravado but light hammers are great for production.
I haven’t seen this channel appear in my feed for almost 2 years….that was back when the hammer was recommended hahaha how times have changed. Thank you algorithm gods
This is just physics. Ek=1/2mv^2. The energy is proportional to velocity^2. You have to swing it faster to impart more energy, but this is easy to do with a lower mass. This principle is used in weaponry. When you need damage down range it is always preferable to increase velocity rather than increase mass.
Can’t wait to hear about your collab box! I’ve bought two Annan shirts on your recommendation and have friends that found them on their own! Nick’s boots look amazing. As for the hammer, I love a hand-made hammer, and if the titanium gives it a welcome ‘feel’ there is nothing more important. You do you. Probably out of my price range anyway.
I don't know much about forging, but as a hobby machinist I'm working with titanium on the lathe and milling machine quite a bit. The pitting probably stops because of work hardening. Titanium has a tendency to work harden a lot under pressure/force, which really is a pain for stuff like drilling or milling, if your cutting tools are slightly dull and the cutting pressure gets too high. In the case of your hammer that's actually a good thing I guess. Maybe hitting the cold hammer with the power hammer could improve the hardness by basically "cold forging" it.
Such a beautiful hammer! That's when ol' Martin was still in the shop. And you were at the old place at your Dad's. It looks like you love it. You've definitely used it and it shows. I ❤️ it!
It sounds a lot like your first car. It isn't perfect. You don't think you'll have it forever. But, God, is it easy to love and you know it'll be sorely missed when it's gone.
I enjoyed the video of you making it and I would much enjoy some more videos working with titanium. Time to resurface, rehandle and make some titanium siblings for it. If it has completely altered your way of working to become a main tool in your shop then in my opinion you can say it's a GREAT hammer
Really was hoping to see a side by side comparison between the titanium hammer and a steel one with a similar amount of wear (if you have one kicking around) I seem to recall in some of your earliest vids, you were using a crazy mushroomed out steel hammer that looked like it was very well loved.
I feel like the face pitting could possibly be attributed to work hardening. I'm not an expert in any form but from a casual look around online it definitely seems like titanium does work harden in some circumstances so its possible that's what happened here as its odd that it would initially pick up lots of indents and imperfections and then stop (it would be interesting to see a hardness test of the face versus the side).
I made myself a titanium hammer 2 years ago after seeing your video and have been using it as my main hammer since. The thing hits hard, moves steel well, and isn't too heavy for my weak wrists. Pleasantly blown away by it
@@TimothyDyck 6al4v, I think same as you. Ive re dressed it maybe two or three times but thats it. Its tough as hell especially once it work hardens. I love the feeling of swinging a big hammer without the body jolt.
It probably has some advantages over an equivalent hammer with a flared shape to it, which would be the way to get the same striking surface vs. weight ratio with one made of iron or steel. For some types of shaping work, I wouldn't be surprised if the lightness makes things easier. And it's not like you can't switch to a heavier hammer of similar size if you do need it.
Things I learned about Titanium over the years. You can cut them. You can damage them. You can crack them with enough force. It scratches easily if warm enough. (Terrible when used as engine component parts) Everything else about it that I've learned is what everyone else learned about it initially. Very light and very strong. It makes for great body armor.
A tool that you prefer over all others says a lot. I have a favorite knife. Others are sharper, others are sturdier, others look nicer. My favorite knife has a comfortable handle that doesn't get slick when its wet, is indexed nicely, the blade is a good, all purpose clip point, 1/8th of an inch thick on the spine, and has a 4 inch blade. it just feels right.
Would you build a second one in case something happened to your current one and would you do anything different? We know you want a longer handle, would you make it bigger so it had a little more weight?
I wonder if after using it for this amount of time, if you took a file to round the crosspeen over a bit and take the mushrooming off the edges, would you see it come back with further use? It seems like its been work hardened or compacted with use so that the faces are stiffer now than when they were fresh.
If you had a make a new one today how would you make it differently? would you still forge it or just machine it? would you make it heavier but same shape? or would you want a different shape to compliment the 2lb hammer?
Interesting elbow information. Lighter must make a difference for that joint. I watched the video of you making the ti hammer back when, but can't remember the size of stock you started with. Round bar, wasn't it? Reanodize and true it up when you rehandle it. ✌ 😃
Sounds like there was work hardening to the face of the hammer. The scale deforming the hammer face created dislocations within the surface of the tool, therefore creating an inability to deform as the dislocations stop each other from moving.
Apparently titanium work hardens, so perhaps that's why the pitting stopped. It's possible that if you just keep smoothing the strike face out gently once in a while, that you'll get a durable smooth surface. Also titanium can be electroplated with nickel and chromium to make it more durable.
Maybe you could make a Steel Hammer that has a changeable Striking Face on it. The weight would still be light but you could have a Steel Face on it or Brass (or any kind of Metal). Robinson Foundry made a pretty cool Hammer with Changeable Tips on it.
I have to wonder about the gouging and mushrooming of the edge. It's like there was a shallow layer that was soft for some reason. Although titanium if I remember correctly, isn't that good at being 'plastic' like some steels are. Meaning they don't stretch without deformation at the micro level and don't really do all that well with shock loading without a certain amount of mass to hold the shape. Either way, still an interesting hammer and it's neat to see how well it held up. Example of this is in titanium firearms. The frames and many parts can be titanium, but the chamber, bolt and such meant to contain the case upon ignition of the round. Are not titanium, but are sleeved with a steel sleeve, either stainless or a hard chromium alloy steel because the steel can flex/stretch minutely and return to form without developing micro stress cracks.
ngl id be interested in trying a titanium hammer. i would also want to try a tungsten hammer just to see the difference in performance (same weight on both)
You should see if you can get your hands on some of that Titanium alloy that Mad Science Forge uses to make swords. It's harder than pure Titanium and can be hardened supposedly. If the way it transmits shock works similarly, you might end up with quite the upgrade.
Oooooh first time you've used suspense to get my attention. I'm excited for next weeks video. The hammer shouldn't be controversial. If the user doesn't sacrifice quality of work with prefured tools used then there is no issues.
I have a favourite hammer but mine is made from old bull dozer axle. I left unhardened and the faces have deformed over time into just the right angles.
ITS A HAMMER, ⚒Smash it baby.⚒ dont brake it get a bigger hammer ⚒ grate work stared making my own nonferrous hammers for bronze working. thanks for the inspiration, you legend⚒🔨⚒🔨
I prefer a lighter hammer for most things in the shop and I haven't hammered an anvil enough to have a preference on light or heavy but the times I have I used a heavy hammer to move the bulk of the material and then switched to a light hammer to do finer detail and recover my strength.
It has to do with the upswing and then downswing. You don't always need all the momentum a heavier hammer will get you, especially when controlling finer swings. At that point the heavier weight is going to wear on your fine control muscles, especially all that are attached to your elbow, a lot more.
5:11 the impedance of the hammer in terms of rebound should be different compared to other metals, so it makes sense that you can tell something is different. imagine swinging a hammer made of cheese vs one made of granite vs one made of rubber. they each will rebound differently off of different surfaces, and your elbow is part of that oscillating system. the simple fact is though, if it makes your elbow feel better than you should keep using it. even if its some other reason that has nothing to do with the titanium, its worth using if it saves on your joints. RSI is no joke
The simple fact you'll walk across the shop to grab it over the hammer at your hands speaks volumes to me. That's awesome and the 'damage' it had taken all the use isn't that much over all. Anvil vs hammer war the hammer should always lose with the anvil not showing damage. That's a awesome hammer and the tape is like putting a hat on your head just adds to your looks if you know what I mean 🥰
Bruh flirting with the blacksmith
got that blacksmith rizz
The Titanium hammer was a game changer for me. I used to frame houses. And spent the money to get a framing hammer made of titanium. Big difference from day one.
Agree wholeheartedly, in the beginning and even now....Its Magic :)
Yeah I worked with some guys who all had $200 titanium framing hammers (i think they had interchangeable steel faces, the whole rest of the hammer was titanium) and I got to swing one of theirs a couple times, it felt like cheating after using a steel Estwing my entire life.
yah, titanium framing hammers are so nice to use. only wish the waffle lasted longer before smoothing out. if used frequently, i end up having to disk-grind a new waffle into the head every couple of months
Is it a stiletto?
Those are sweet hammers!
@@tylerkrug7719 its been a few years, but i think it was, yes :P
I'm a carpenter of 40+ years and have never used a titanium hammer.
The experienced carpenters, I know and trust, swear that the lighter weight is compensated when stored energy is released from the hammer into the work.
If you are swinging a hammer all day, and your hand does not go numb or elbow swell, you have a great hammer. 🤘🦊👍
don't fall for the scam.
You can get a titanium hammer in the weight of your regular framing hammer, the benefit comes from how the titanium handles the shock. I don't know all the sciency Parts but it doesn't transfer as much of the energy to your bones as steel does.
Stored energy? Are you actually stupid? A lighter hammer will not hit harder unless you are swinging it much faster and the easy of hardening steel makes steel hammers superior. This titanium hammer is in fact a stupid idea and the only benefit is psychological.
Just use lesser hammer, lol. Titan is great, but using it for hummer is a waste of precious metal.
@@heyhoe168 if you don't know what you're talkin about than just don't comment in the first place.
When Lockheed was learning how to work with titanium on the SR-71, they realized that steel tools would transfer corrosion onto the surface of the titanium. The solution was to swap out standard, steel tools for titanium ones.
Lol time to swap out the steel work to titanium pieces only
Tim, great video, glad to see the update on the hammer, since I remember the original video. Titanium has a lot of cool properties, some that might play a part in why the hammer works so well. Depending on the alloy (can't remember which you used) it has a lower coefficient of restitution than steel, so it won't bounce back quite as much, likely saving your elbow. It also has a much lower thermal conductivity than steel, so it will take less heat out of the piece you're working on than a steel hammer. It also can alloy with materials your work with, so it wouldn't surprise me if the face of your hammer has a good amount of iron in it now. Titanium work hardens, so you're making it better every time you swing.
thanks for the information, i have noticed on his original video when he hit gently the anvil, it sounded a bit "hollow-like" sound, maybe because it has a lower coefficient of restitution? (a concept i just google it and learn thanks to you!)
I remember watching the original video and thinking that it looked sick and would be a sick lighter yet reasonably big hammer. I think that The mushrooming was caused simply by having corners that are too sharp. Just change the handle and regrind the face and peen, maybe radius the edges a bit more and im site that it will be a brand new and better tool! Been watching you for a long time mate, absolutely amazing stuff!
Titanium is worth it just because it absorbs so much more shock, which is easier on your joints and better for your health in the long run. Stay lit. 🔥
Wait, for forging? If you feel the shock in your arm, you're holding your hammer way too tight!
This! Very much this!
I heard the story once, of a custom bicycle frame builder, who explained that any road bicycle with a titanium frame would ride soooo incredibly smooth that it wouldn't need shocks, whereas a steel framed bicycle would definitely improve with a set of front shock absorbers in the fork.
In the cycling world, titanium frames are highly regarded for the same reasons - they absorb vibration better than steel and they're much lighter.
I would love to see a titanium Damascus hammer if you're wanting to update the look!
A video on refurbishing the hammer including a new handle would be great
needs a carbon fiber handle for maximum materials science
The two sides of Tim.
*violently throws hammer on floor*
"For some reason my hammer took a hard fall the other day!"
Could steel faces be dovetailed/pinned to a titanium core to toughen the striking areas whilst retaining the shock absorption? It'd be ridiculously overkill design wise, but would it work?
This is a great idea. Tim, get on it!
I wouldn't use dovetails in an impact tool as it'd work itself apart with use. Honestly, if shocks are an issue, use a birch handle or wrap some leather around it. If you're a blacksmith and shocks bother you, you're holding it too tight. If you absolutely want to use titanium, I'd try to make the eye way oversized and fitting a sleeve as thick as I could, but then you'd have to worry about the steel cracking.
@@bjrn-oskarrnning2740 another thing I've seen for reducing shock in both hammers and axes is to orient the wood grain parallel to the striking face (or edge).
It's so common now to see wood handles with the grain perpendicular to the striking face, for "strength and longevity of the handle", but if you change the grain orientation and shave the handle in a way in which you preserve the outer growth ring for the back of the handle (similar to bow making, but opposite), the handle gains some spring, but also absorbs a lot of shock and lasts far longer at the same time.
Mr. Chickadee has a great video explaining this.
@@jameshaulenbeek5931 huh, I haven't heard that before but that's definitely something I wanna try out!
You can also use screwed head like in recoilless hammer.
Precision titanium smashometer. Very nice. Thanks for letting us know how it held up. I'd buy one.
Titanium is amazing, be sure!
How about a Martin update Tim?
Titanium framing hammers are sweet. I have used one for about 20 years now. There are times when a heaver hammer is needed, but most tasks titanium hammers are great.
Your video on forging that hammer was the first one of yours I ever saw. At the time, I was looking for some information on machining titanium and that video came up in my search. Not what I was looking for then, but it was very intriguing. Although I really don't have a lot of interest in forging things myself, I've been subscribed to your channel ever since. You have a way of making it interesting. You stated that you will walk across your shop to get that hammer in this video. You've stated that before, and that statement speaks volumes. I'm more than intrigued. You have a priceless gem in that there hammer. Keep the forge lit. Keep the hammer swinging.
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Gonna be honest Tim, you start making them in production and I promise I'm gonna buy one.
Force equals mass times acceleration: the faster you swing the hammer relatively speaking the more force it will have… I’m just thinking out loud here. Timmy keep up the good content I absolutely love it! You are a true craftsman
An even more important equation is kinetic energy = 1/2 * mass * velocity^2. So if you double the mass you double the energy, but if you double the speed you quadruple the energy. You get a much better bang for you buck by swinging a lighter hammer faster than a heavier hammer slower. I'm sure there's lots more consideration physiologically and metallurgically though that I don't know as much about
Loved that video. It's always cool to see a new video Timothy. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years to come my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep The Forge Lit. Keep Making. God Bless.
Good work Tim. That video was an absolute killer and has some great photos showing the cool project.
I think seeing your original video has lead me onto some research back when I watched it. I have read something about titanium being able to transfer more kinetic energy than steel. So it would make sense that it is less tiring to use. it would mean it has less energy to transfer back at you after you hit something
Kinetic energy = mass x speed. So it doesn't matter what material you use.
@@JaapGrootveld You haven't factored in the elastic/non-elastic effect of metals, eg bounce a ball bearing off of a quality anvil and then try bouncing it off a similar shaped lump of normal steel, the anvil will bounce the ball a lot higher than the steel.
This all boils down to the right balance to get energy to transfer into the workpiece rather than back into the handle of the hammer
@@JaapGrootveld kinetic energy is 1/2mass x velocity^2 (momentum is mass x velocity)
increasing speed has a much greater effect on kinetic energy than its mass does.
Just wanted to say i have been following along since the beginning and your work is just great keep on rocking out these killer videos please
I used to have a roofing hammer that was made out of some sort of aluminum alloy. Was the best at driving nails for 10 hours a day. Light hammers don't get the recognition for what they are. Heavy hammers are great for bravado but light hammers are great for production.
I haven’t seen this channel appear in my feed for almost 2 years….that was back when the hammer was recommended hahaha how times have changed. Thank you algorithm gods
Cant believe you have been going so long all ready, damn good work!!
This is just physics. Ek=1/2mv^2.
The energy is proportional to velocity^2. You have to swing it faster to impart more energy, but this is easy to do with a lower mass.
This principle is used in weaponry. When you need damage down range it is always preferable to increase velocity rather than increase mass.
Can’t wait to hear about your collab box! I’ve bought two Annan shirts on your recommendation and have friends that found them on their own! Nick’s boots look amazing. As for the hammer, I love a hand-made hammer, and if the titanium gives it a welcome ‘feel’ there is nothing more important. You do you. Probably out of my price range anyway.
I don't know much about forging, but as a hobby machinist I'm working with titanium on the lathe and milling machine quite a bit. The pitting probably stops because of work hardening. Titanium has a tendency to work harden a lot under pressure/force, which really is a pain for stuff like drilling or milling, if your cutting tools are slightly dull and the cutting pressure gets too high.
In the case of your hammer that's actually a good thing I guess. Maybe hitting the cold hammer with the power hammer could improve the hardness by basically "cold forging" it.
Such a beautiful hammer! That's when ol' Martin was still in the shop. And you were at the old place at your Dad's. It looks like you love it. You've definitely used it and it shows. I ❤️ it!
The value of the reduced pain in th elbow is priceless
Love the fact your not just blowing smoke up our backsides. But still exciting despite its down sides, despite them you still use it regularly.
It sounds a lot like your first car. It isn't perfect. You don't think you'll have it forever. But, God, is it easy to love and you know it'll be sorely missed when it's gone.
dang! ive been watching you for over 2 years. it doesnt seem that long. your bottle opener is a great decoration on my shelf
oooo i feel so special now. scammer trying to scam me
Thanks for the update!
Thanks for the update, that's very interesting!
Very interesting to see how it all worked out. Titanium such a fun metal.
ive been looking foward to this video fot ages
I enjoyed the video of you making it and I would much enjoy some more videos working with titanium. Time to resurface, rehandle and make some titanium siblings for it. If it has completely altered your way of working to become a main tool in your shop then in my opinion you can say it's a GREAT hammer
I was there when you posted this 2 years ago. Crazy how time flies.
I wanted one when you made it and I still want one now. It an awesome looking hammer.
It's kinda crazy how this combines 5000 year old ancient forging technology with space age materials and machining.
I have been curious about this for sooo looong!
Thats crazy, When I watched one of your last videos I was wondering how the hammer was holding up and what you thought of it.. I love it!
Really was hoping to see a side by side comparison between the titanium hammer and a steel one with a similar amount of wear (if you have one kicking around)
I seem to recall in some of your earliest vids, you were using a crazy mushroomed out steel hammer that looked like it was very well loved.
When I saw you create that thing I thought it would only be a wall hanger. Great video
I'd still buy one from you! Looks good after two years of pounding with it!
Id still love to have one for myself. You got me convinced.
Love the updates can't wait for the next one
I feel like the face pitting could possibly be attributed to work hardening. I'm not an expert in any form but from a casual look around online it definitely seems like titanium does work harden in some circumstances so its possible that's what happened here as its odd that it would initially pick up lots of indents and imperfections and then stop (it would be interesting to see a hardness test of the face versus the side).
i cant believe you made this thing 2 whole years ago time sure does fly
I made myself a titanium hammer 2 years ago after seeing your video and have been using it as my main hammer since. The thing hits hard, moves steel well, and isn't too heavy for my weak wrists. Pleasantly blown away by it
How has the surface stood up? What grade of titanium did you use?
@@TimothyDyck 6al4v, I think same as you. Ive re dressed it maybe two or three times but thats it. Its tough as hell especially once it work hardens. I love the feeling of swinging a big hammer without the body jolt.
I like how hot titanium looks like forbidden cheese.
man i remember watching you make this, time flies
Nothing stsys in like new condition forever. I absolutely love the way it aged!
Have you considered attaching a hardened steel face to the hammer like they do on some of the Ti framing hammers?
I was wondering how this hammer was doing, good to see it worked out so well
THANK YOU
It probably has some advantages over an equivalent hammer with a flared shape to it, which would be the way to get the same striking surface vs. weight ratio with one made of iron or steel. For some types of shaping work, I wouldn't be surprised if the lightness makes things easier. And it's not like you can't switch to a heavier hammer of similar size if you do need it.
Titanium? I yawn.
Tungsten? I kneel.
Titanium work hardens really fast, so it would make sense that the face stopped getting chewed up
Things I learned about Titanium over the years.
You can cut them.
You can damage them.
You can crack them with enough force.
It scratches easily if warm enough. (Terrible when used as engine component parts)
Everything else about it that I've learned is what everyone else learned about it initially.
Very light and very strong. It makes for great body armor.
Looking forward to the 4 year review:)
Titanium framing hammers are fucking amazing
A tool that you prefer over all others says a lot. I have a favorite knife. Others are sharper, others are sturdier, others look nicer. My favorite knife has a comfortable handle that doesn't get slick when its wet, is indexed nicely, the blade is a good, all purpose clip point, 1/8th of an inch thick on the spine, and has a 4 inch blade. it just feels right.
this calls for titanium tongs ;) greetings from germany!
I broke the titanium rods in my back
Would you build a second one in case something happened to your current one and would you do anything different? We know you want a longer handle, would you make it bigger so it had a little more weight?
Titanium work hardens, so there was deformation initially, but it stopped after that process happened
I wonder if after using it for this amount of time, if you took a file to round the crosspeen over a bit and take the mushrooming off the edges, would you see it come back with further use? It seems like its been work hardened or compacted with use so that the faces are stiffer now than when they were fresh.
If you had a make a new one today how would you make it differently? would you still forge it or just machine it? would you make it heavier but same shape? or would you want a different shape to compliment the 2lb hammer?
Interesting elbow information. Lighter must make a difference for that joint. I watched the video of you making the ti hammer back when, but can't remember the size of stock you started with. Round bar, wasn't it? Reanodize and true it up when you rehandle it. ✌ 😃
As a woodworker, this is fascinating
The virgin claw hammer versus the Chad titanium hammer
Alright alright, I’m going to keep my eyes open for one.
Sounds like there was work hardening to the face of the hammer. The scale deforming the hammer face created dislocations within the surface of the tool, therefore creating an inability to deform as the dislocations stop each other from moving.
Apparently titanium work hardens, so perhaps that's why the pitting stopped.
It's possible that if you just keep smoothing the strike face out gently once in a while, that you'll get a durable smooth surface.
Also titanium can be electroplated with nickel and chromium to make it more durable.
Maybe you could make a Steel Hammer that has a changeable Striking Face on it. The weight would still be light but you could have a Steel Face on it or Brass (or any kind of Metal). Robinson Foundry made a pretty cool Hammer with Changeable Tips on it.
You mean a titanium hammer with interchangeable faces?
@@MineZilla123 Yes
@@MineZilla123 Actually I mean both. One could have the weight you need the other could have the speed
Would you please do review videos on titanium products on the market from a professional smith’ point of view? Like titanium hammers and knives
Could you add a bit of weight to the end of the handle near the head to gain more power or would that defeat the purpose?
I have to wonder about the gouging and mushrooming of the edge. It's like there was a shallow layer that was soft for some reason. Although titanium if I remember correctly, isn't that good at being 'plastic' like some steels are. Meaning they don't stretch without deformation at the micro level and don't really do all that well with shock loading without a certain amount of mass to hold the shape. Either way, still an interesting hammer and it's neat to see how well it held up.
Example of this is in titanium firearms. The frames and many parts can be titanium, but the chamber, bolt and such meant to contain the case upon ignition of the round. Are not titanium, but are sleeved with a steel sleeve, either stainless or a hard chromium alloy steel because the steel can flex/stretch minutely and return to form without developing micro stress cracks.
I've been wanting one of these for a while and still do. So whe. Are you gonna offer them?
i like how you can work harden the titanium hammer by hammering with it
Do you prefer the hammer face area compared to the weight as opposed to a steel hammer of the same design?
ngl id be interested in trying a titanium hammer. i would also want to try a tungsten hammer just to see the difference in performance (same weight on both)
You should see if you can get your hands on some of that Titanium alloy that Mad Science Forge uses to make swords. It's harder than pure Titanium and can be hardened supposedly. If the way it transmits shock works similarly, you might end up with quite the upgrade.
Good show
from the way you described how it ages i get that we probably need to forge titanium the same way we forge bronze
Two things.
How does that surface damage compare to a steel hammer of the same age and how hard would it be clean up?
Titanium tongs?
Tim a Graphite handle would absorb more shock is that something you could address?
Oooooh first time you've used suspense to get my attention. I'm excited for next weeks video.
The hammer shouldn't be controversial. If the user doesn't sacrifice quality of work with prefured tools used then there is no issues.
I have a favourite hammer but mine is made from old bull dozer axle. I left unhardened and the faces have deformed over time into just the right angles.
ITS A HAMMER, ⚒Smash it baby.⚒ dont brake it get a bigger hammer ⚒
grate work stared making my own nonferrous hammers for bronze working.
thanks for the inspiration, you legend⚒🔨⚒🔨
Could you somehow attach hardened front faces to a titanium hammer? Might maintain its lightness and shock dampening but hold a better face?
I prefer a lighter hammer for most things in the shop and I haven't hammered an anvil enough to have a preference on light or heavy but the times I have I used a heavy hammer to move the bulk of the material and then switched to a light hammer to do finer detail and recover my strength.
It has to do with the upswing and then downswing. You don't always need all the momentum a heavier hammer will get you, especially when controlling finer swings. At that point the heavier weight is going to wear on your fine control muscles, especially all that are attached to your elbow, a lot more.
I am completely in the dark as to how a steel hammer would look like after 2 years, could you compare the wear between them?
So it seems that the titanium hammer took the damage that otherwise would've gone to your elbow.
5:11 the impedance of the hammer in terms of rebound should be different compared to other metals, so it makes sense that you can tell something is different. imagine swinging a hammer made of cheese vs one made of granite vs one made of rubber. they each will rebound differently off of different surfaces, and your elbow is part of that oscillating system. the simple fact is though, if it makes your elbow feel better than you should keep using it. even if its some other reason that has nothing to do with the titanium, its worth using if it saves on your joints. RSI is no joke
It is a relatively soft material compared to a steel hammer head so probably takes a lof of the jarring out of each hit.
what alloy or grade of titanium did you use.
**throws the hammer on the ground**
“Tape is new… it hit the ground hard for some reason”