Very nice to see history kept alive, never heard of these before. Keeping originals flying is getting harder and harder so if we can have replicas like this that's awesome.
MIGHT be keen on... Gas turbine genset + rotary encoder for smart tech wavefront wngineering approaches to high power density and pressure vs speed and "flame within a sflame*" waveform modulation /Pwm Controlled turbulence localisation system
Great idea Jaguar is the first that comes to mind and are Fairly Cheap depending on which year and Model i bought an xJs 5,3 in an estate sale that was not running for cheap Just had to Clean the Fuel rails and Injectors Not sure how heavy it is.. I'm sure it could make Great HP with a Turbo LOL maybe way to Much RPM would need a gear reduction
@@mmancino1982 I always had this thought experiment in my mind on if for some reason modern aviation companies and individuals found themselves making and selling weapons to ww2 like era factions (Think of something like the anime GATE but the portal leads to a ww2ish setting.) how much better could they make the war machines all while being as cheap or as simple to make and maintain.
Fair point but i wonder how it compares power wise, late War 51Hs had something like 2200hp WEP compared to 150hp on this, so Power to weight Ratio wise the original was more powerfull. But as nice as that power (and the amazing Sound) is the lower fuel consumption is nice.
When you did the flyby sound test, I threw my head back and laughed out loud in delight. There is NO sound like a P-51. That’s not a P-51, but it’s close and it sure made me smile large. Love it!
Great in depth review, this one is definitely on my bucket list! It's either this or the JMB VL3 Evolution. With the JMB, it is similar price and engine, but fully assembled and side by side seating. Glad to hear of your positive experience!
Yes. The JMB looks like a really sweet airplane. I want to fly one and test it out for sure. The numbers (speeds) they are talking about are wild for a rotax. It looks like an amazing cross country airplane. How much is it? It depends on your mission I think. If you are using the airplane as a exclusive cross country airplane, the JMB looks great. If you are looking for something fun on the weekends, unmatched ramp appeal, and to feel like you are flying a warbird, then it’s the SW-51. Totally depends on your mission and desires.
@@DozenDuzit The JBM, depending on how you spec it, is around $300K fully assembled. They've also just delivered their 500th model, so needless to say, they've had a lot of opportunities to refine the product and deal with all the niggles. But you are right, it really comes down to what I want to do with the plane and how I want to use it. For me, my use at the moment, will be a sunny day run and gun, with occasional cross country or weekend getaways. Still a big chunk of money to put down, as well as it is also a kit. So lots to consider, including build time. Cheers for your reply!!
Hi, what's your take on the outside visibility from inside the cockpit? It seems that the jockey sits quite deep and has limited view of the ground from the sides. The back seats seems even worse in the video
What a great first step. The engine and prop are obviously in desperate need of upgrade. I'd love to see this with at least 300hp and a bigger prop. The RV-8 being less than HALF the price (with much better performance) is going to be a major factor.
Yeah but an RV out performs it. 155 to 160 knots cruise? That’s 20 knots slower than a RV-4 or RV-8. 24 gallons burning 8gph? An RV burns the same at those altitudes going 20 knots faster, and holds 42 gallons. Cute toy though.
“BEAUTIFUL, exquisite,”..doesn’t EVEN begin to describe THIS plane. “Plane” doesn’t even come close! What an awesome aircraft/project..just phenomenal! I’d be terrified to fly it at all (PRIOR helo pilot). Best vid I’ll see for a LONG time..
Complexity, power required to take advantage of full size, construction of such a large kit is problematic. Would definitely required bigger engine and CS prop. All of which drives up the price.
what an awsome little plane . and im sure sooo much fun to fly . plus being a replica of one of the most iconic war birds .. whats not to like ? enjoy it
I've been waiting for a video of this plane after I saw it at OSH this past summer. Awesome video, my friend. If I had a cool $300k to spend on a toy, this would be the one!
Beautiful aircraft and great vid. Most interesting thing for me was when you mentioned you live in Bidville. My great, great grandfather settled there on the mountain and it still bears the family name.
This is super cool! I really hope I can get a private pilot's license once I get through college. I love flying rc stuff a whole lot, but learning to fly a real plane would be an awesome experience!
Just found your channel and it's seriously under rated. I've loved the idea of the sw51 since they first announced it years and years ago. I love what they've done with it. Still a bit out of my price range but super cool plane.
Regarding the limitation of propeller inertia due to the small prop shaft, it should be possible to design a new gearbox for the Rotax, that has the necessary strength and at the same time a much higher gear ratio so the tips of a scale propeller won't be overspeeding. The gearbox could also be longer to add clearance between the engine and the front of the cowling.
Interested!!! Even more interested in the "drop tank" option when or if coming to fruition.... maybe a five-hour flight/1,000-mile flight time? Obviously, a fair-weather VFR fun ride, but, then again, that's when you want everyone to see and hear it! lol Far cheaper than a Thunder Mustang!
this is an amazing replica, my only gripe is the length of the Propellers being a bit too short for my taste but I'm that can be fixed with a 1:1 recreation of the propellers size
@@DozenDuzit this kind of content is pretty entertaining (plus he’s an actual F-16 pilot who asked people to let him know if they want to dogfight on DCS! ua-cam.com/video/1Eu0aAlMMMI/v-deo.html
Thanks for making this video! There isn’t enough content on the SW51 out there. Does it have inverted fuel/oil systems or are you limited to +g aerobatics?
There isn’t a lot of content because it’s brand new to market. I’ll do my best to answer. The Rotax does not have inverted fuel/oil. If I remember correctly, neither did the Original P-51. This airplane is ideal for basic aerobatics, but if you are wanting to do outside maneuvers, I’d recommend either find a different plane (Extra/Gamebird/ect) or since it experimental, find a solution to the problem with a different engine. The airframe is plenty strong, the only limit right now is a reliable engine that can fit in the cowling. I am actually really excited to see what innovative customers do to their airplanes to continue to evolve it.
One of the biggest question marks I have about this is the fuel capacity. 26 gallons seems a bit of a joke, particularly if you fit it with a larger engine like the 600hp Supercharged Corvette motor mentioned in the materials on their website. That motor at cruise would burn through that 26 gallons in no time. Realistically, I think you need 75-90 gallons of fuel on board. I haven’t been able to find any information at all on whether this is a contemplated issue or not by the designers. I’m wondering if they’ve made provisions in the wing design for larger tanks, and if the 26 gallon tanks currently offered are really the beta/1.0 design of the airplane with the idea of using the Rotax
A friend of mine just received his kit and I asked about the fuel capacity issue. He said that there will be external “drop tanks” if you need more fuel capacity but I can’t find any reference to the website. In their PDF brochure, it gives spec’s for an experimental version with the 600hp Chevy engine with a max weight of 1200kg vs 700kg with the Rotax. With that big of an increase, I wonder if it is a different kit to accommodate the bigger engine.
@@BrentT70 yeah I thought drop tanks might be an option. But I think that their utility (what they can carry realistically) will be pretty limited. And they’ll certainly alter the flight characteristics and add a bunch of drag. I too noticed the weight difference, which made me wonder if that was related to bigger in-wing tanks. That would be the ideal solution for me. A lot of the appeal of the P51 in the first place is it’s performance. This plane won’t come close to the original climb rate of the original with the Merlin unless if packs some serious power up front. 600 would certainly give it real teeth, but you wouldn’t practically be able to use that power without more fuel on board
Great question. I asked the same thing. Right now the inner wings are wet, but the outer half are dry. They have the models to add fuel to the outer wing as well. That should double the capacity which would help with a bigger engine for sure. The 26 gallons is great with the Rotax or something burning 7-8 GPH, but 100% agree, not nearly enough for a big engine. Drop tanks are an interesting idea. I hadn’t heard that. I’d hate to add all that drag though if more fuel can go in the wings.
I agree about internal fuel being much more preferable. Drop tanks would cause all kinds of potential problems. From a power perspective, the OG Mustang gross weight was 9,200lbs pushed by 1490HP. Assuming 50 Galons, bigger engine weight, and two 170lbs adults, your are looking at a weight of about 2,000 lbs for the Saw-51. To have the same thrust to weight as the original mustang, the Carbon Mustang would only need 323HP. 600HP might be good for Reno, but IMHO anything over about 220-250HP is a waste for normal use.
I don't think any chevy engine burns 26 gallons an hour. The fuel flow would be comparable to what would find on the street to keep reliability a reality. I talking a recreational plane not a racer.
Love the video! Getting my PPL now and this is a dream plane. Although the rotax is enough I’d love a v12 in there for the functional pipes! See you say the avionics are just ok. What avionics would you recommend?
Keep the dream alive AJ. The avionics that I was talking about were only used in SN01. In fact it even that airplane is being upgraded with Garmin. Options for traditional avionics (6 pack style) or the most advanced G3X are available.
I'm surprised the Rotax is burning that much. I know in the Autogyro Cavalon it burns 5 gal in cruise. What percentage of power are you running in the '51?
The wings should not show rivets. The original P-51 wings had the rivets filled to smooth out the airfoil so this SW-51 should not have rivets showing. Look it up.
Sold!😁Motivated to go earn the dollars and then retire so I have time to build. Been following the videos from the manufacturer which are technically informative, but this is the best all-round vid on this plane. I currently fly a Bristell with the little brother 912 engine, and I can absolutely believe this thing would really get up and go with the 915, as well as being economical to operate and super reliable, and that explanation and clip of the sound - wow. The extra weight and cost of putting in a chevy seems like overkill. 2 questions you didn't address: (1) Can this thing potentially be equipped IFR and (2) what are the armament options? OK, joking about that second one... 🤭
Check out the ScaleWing website and submit a inquiry. They are catching up on the demand right now but hopefully they will be able to get back to you quickly though.
Dozen, as an RV8 owner I was intrigued with the comparison comment. So it brings on more questions that the SW website doesn't cover: - How slippery is it in the vertical? How fast does speed increase downhill? - And aligned with that, what's VNE? Especially if someone puts a Honda in there and they upgrade to prop shaft?
So I did some BFM in the Mustang against my buddy in his RV-8. They honestly handle very similarly. He won in a drag race with his 210HP, but I had a slight edge in the slow speed fight. The SW is a bit more nimble as well. I’m not sure what the flutter test was engineered for, but I know that SW paid some of the top engineers a lot of money to ensure it was designed for a high Vne. If I find out what that number was I’ll post it here.
@@DozenDuzit Tks! My 8 is a 180hp lycoming w/2 blade fpp. The vne is 230 TAS due to flutter. Va is 140 (ias mph), and there's plenty of power (adding more just puts you into the VNE corner downhill). And the 230TAS limits altitude at speed. I could expand my build with flutter testing, but evidently there has not been a flutter survivor in the plane. And fwiw, my flight videos are at channel N349DM
Seeing your young man in the back seat was worth the price of admission ! Do you know if the leading edge of the vertical fin is offset to port side by 1 degree or there a bouts ?
Unbelievable review! You are great. I’m not qualified to ask this but how much of an issue is the propeller shaft in the future if you want to mount variable (more powerful) power plants? And what do you think would be the optimal, piston driven engine with regard to the attainment of the “ultimate” performance envelope.
I think a reasonably sized engine could be an automotive inline six, because it will have a sound similar to a V-12. Apart from that, any other engine configuration will have a sound that doesn't fit the airplane. (Except for a V-12 of course). I adressed the prop shaft issue in another post.
yep like fashion models 'dreams' for most ,but mate a nice job done , can they do a spitfire ?, and I hear calls for a fockerwolf 190 ,and corsair . probably the honda V6 aero ,245Hp,conversion package would be a nice fit too . do I hear a top gun dog fight school being set up ,with lazer tag 50 cals ?. [who'll play lufty waffies ], would need ballistic chutes .
@@DozenDuzit Thanks, I'll check it out. My tailwheel club TacAero will be down there in June for our second year of barnstorming around there! Love the place!
@way2sh0rt07grad I'll go call up W.A.R. REPLICAS and see if they have plans for a P - 51 Mustang. The old Home Depot special sounds a lot cheaper right now. All I have to do is find a Suzuki V6 with a super charger on it to stuff into the engine bay. 🤣
"... whether you've started in a 172..." Makes one who started in a C-150 or Cherokee 140 know they are old. Great presentation. Some more time spent on the cockpit would have been nice.
Great presentation! Is there no mechanical elasticity built into the design, given all that stiff carbon? I can see myself wasting a lot of engineering time asking questions. Alas, too old to see myself flying one.
I am not a pilot, Submarine Nuke in fact so ... can't get much different environments lol. I would absolutely get my licience if I could afford one of these beauties. Is the Standard Engine adequate to do decent stunts or would the bigger option be worth the costs?
When you join the military and they make you a pilot, what happens when you end your military career? Do you automatically have a civilian pilots license when you get out or do you have to go through the same process as civilians that become pilots?
You still have to go through the licensing procedure and get checked out by and instructor pilot in the airframe you will be regularly flying. What happens is that your military training record applies to the training requirements and basically they look over your logbook, contact your branch and confirm your course completions. Like getting credit for going to one university for a while or community college and then switching to a new school and transferring your credits to complete your degree. The FAA doesn't give you a rubber stamp, military procedures and regulations are not the same as civilian ones. Lots of overlap, but they need to verify your training is certified and authentic, before giving you "credit" so to speak.
Just a quick jargon tip, when you mention "getting behind the aircraft" most here thought you meant getting into pilot's seat, flying it. You want to be ahead of the airplane/jet as much as possible, but they didn't get what a bad position it is to be behind it. Ahead of the airplane, "We are going to tickle the rudders here... moderate crosswind on landing...into the crab... feel that buffet...rudder in... touchdown!" Behind the airplane means you are about to ground loop...by not observing what is about to happen or not trained to know what is about to happen, not getting into a proper crosswind approach attitude/control inputs, and an example. Great vid, man those ducks did not see you coming, across that pond. "Wait, is that a Mustang, why is he setting up for a water landing? On top of us! What the quack!!! Everyone scatter!" 🤣
Dude the only thing that could make this better would be to give this thing one of them 1500 horse power engines they used to use back then. Bud idk if this thing being as light as it is could handle the torque
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Weeellllp.. gonna head down to the local 24/7 and get me a couple powerballs...
You and me both!! :D
Only way to afford one.
Right!?
I hope you didn't do what I did. I bet on the Eagles to win Super Bowl 57. Drat! No SW-51 for me for a while! I lost big time. 🤑🤠
I saw an interview that the quick build itself is in the $20-30k not including the avionics, engine, etc... so maybe it's 100k at most
That is about the coolest kit plane I've ever seen! I wish someone would do a P-38.
agreed! or from the other side a bf-109 would be sweet too.
@@nickrockz97 so many great options! Could build a whole fleet of reproduction warbirds.
It'd be some damn expensive but so cool at the same time to have a scale P-38.
@@ryan0U I can't even afford this thing, but it would be a cool dream. 😂
Whole time I was thinking a P-39/-63 would be pretty badass 😅
Very nice to see history kept alive, never heard of these before. Keeping originals flying is getting harder and harder so if we can have replicas like this that's awesome.
It is a smaller scale model, not a replica
@@DumbledoreMcCracken I remember seeing a 2/3 P38 at the EAA this year. Honestly, it’s still pretty cool.
I CANNOT wait for some legend to stick a V12 in this! That will be the cherry on top. Bigger prop, and more sound!
MIGHT be keen on...
Gas turbine genset + rotary encoder for smart tech wavefront wngineering approaches to high power density and pressure vs speed and "flame within a sflame*" waveform modulation /Pwm Controlled turbulence localisation system
Great idea Jaguar is the first that comes to mind and are Fairly Cheap depending on which year and Model i bought an xJs 5,3 in an estate sale that was not running for cheap Just had to Clean the Fuel rails and Injectors Not sure how heavy it is.. I'm sure it could make Great HP with a Turbo LOL maybe way to Much RPM would need a gear reduction
@@LDHAl412 I think somebody actually tried to do this once. They call it the mini merlin. I do not recall anything more.
There's a company in australia that makes iron or aluminium block V12s that use LS7 parts.
1,200lbs is insane considering the actual thing was 9,000lbs to 10,000lbs when combat loaded!
I wonder what kind of payload this would have considering the rigidity of the carbon fiber
@@mmancino1982
I always had this thought experiment in my mind on if for some reason modern aviation companies and individuals found themselves making and selling weapons to ww2 like era factions (Think of something like the anime GATE but the portal leads to a ww2ish setting.) how much better could they make the war machines all while being as cheap or as simple to make and maintain.
This is lighter, but it’s also scaled down, correct?
@@DrKnowNothing1 Yes 70% scale. Still impressive weight wise and wings tested to 12G!
Fair point but i wonder how it compares power wise, late War 51Hs had something like 2200hp WEP compared to 150hp on this, so Power to weight Ratio wise the original was more powerfull. But as nice as that power (and the amazing Sound) is the lower fuel consumption is nice.
These cinematics are unreal. Great video!
Thank you. Please share! 🙏 We are still a very new channel.
When you did the flyby sound test, I threw my head back and laughed out loud in delight. There is NO sound like a P-51. That’s not a P-51, but it’s close and it sure made me smile large. Love it!
Great in depth review, this one is definitely on my bucket list! It's either this or the JMB VL3 Evolution. With the JMB, it is similar price and engine, but fully assembled and side by side seating. Glad to hear of your positive experience!
Yes. The JMB looks like a really sweet airplane. I want to fly one and test it out for sure. The numbers (speeds) they are talking about are wild for a rotax. It looks like an amazing cross country airplane. How much is it?
It depends on your mission I think. If you are using the airplane as a exclusive cross country airplane, the JMB looks great. If you are looking for something fun on the weekends, unmatched ramp appeal, and to feel like you are flying a warbird, then it’s the SW-51. Totally depends on your mission and desires.
@@DozenDuzit The JBM, depending on how you spec it, is around $300K fully assembled. They've also just delivered their 500th model, so needless to say, they've had a lot of opportunities to refine the product and deal with all the niggles.
But you are right, it really comes down to what I want to do with the plane and how I want to use it. For me, my use at the moment, will be a sunny day run and gun, with occasional cross country or weekend getaways. Still a big chunk of money to put down, as well as it is also a kit. So lots to consider, including build time.
Cheers for your reply!!
Hell yea, saw this fly at AirVenture last year, it’s so cool, took a picture in front of this exact plane actually! She’s such a stunner!
Hi, what's your take on the outside visibility from inside the cockpit? It seems that the jockey sits quite deep and has limited view of the ground from the sides. The back seats seems even worse in the video
What a great first step. The engine and prop are obviously in desperate need of upgrade. I'd love to see this with at least 300hp and a bigger prop. The RV-8 being less than HALF the price (with much better performance) is going to be a major factor.
No need for more HP, Rotech eng supplies more than enough HP. No need for overkill.
Yeah but an RV out performs it. 155 to 160 knots cruise? That’s 20 knots slower than a RV-4 or RV-8. 24 gallons burning 8gph? An RV burns the same at those altitudes going 20 knots faster, and holds 42 gallons. Cute toy though.
Stunning, it is about time! Bring back a ww2 scale collection.
“BEAUTIFUL, exquisite,”..doesn’t EVEN begin to describe THIS plane. “Plane” doesn’t even come close! What an awesome aircraft/project..just phenomenal! I’d be terrified to fly it at all (PRIOR helo pilot). Best vid I’ll see for a LONG time..
The rural airfield (with the lake) much of this was filmed at, looks phenomenal!!! 😍
5M5 is the airport code for Crystal Lake. One of our favorite places!
I got to see this plane in person at the Reno Air Races this year. Beautiful plane, super nice people. I really hope to see them in ‘23
Man, I love that little strip right on the lake.... So jealous lol.
I don't understand why a 1:1 kit isn't available.
Complexity, power required to take advantage of full size, construction of such a large kit is problematic. Would definitely required bigger engine and CS prop.
All of which drives up the price.
@@project.jericho what would you power it with? An automotive engine and a gearbox?
Really cool plane! Hope they continue making other classic fighter designs as well!
Just saw this plane in a reel today and it’s my new dream plane.
what an awsome little plane . and im sure sooo much fun to fly . plus being a replica of one of the most iconic war birds .. whats not to like ? enjoy it
Dozen, great review, Sir. Clear, refreshingly honest, informative, succinct. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
I have used those scooter tires and they are much more durable than an aircraft tire of the same size.
I've been waiting for a video of this plane after I saw it at OSH this past summer. Awesome video, my friend. If I had a cool $300k to spend on a toy, this would be the one!
That's awesome! I have always loved the vintage warbirds. It would be sweet if they made a Corsair like that!
this was really well timed just saw a picture of this plane this evening and found your video was released today just perfect timing
Beautiful aircraft and great vid. Most interesting thing for me was when you mentioned you live in Bidville. My great, great grandfather settled there on the mountain and it still bears the family name.
Incredible replica!
This is super cool! I really hope I can get a private pilot's license once I get through college. I love flying rc stuff a whole lot, but learning to fly a real plane would be an awesome experience!
Just found your channel and it's seriously under rated. I've loved the idea of the sw51 since they first announced it years and years ago. I love what they've done with it. Still a bit out of my price range but super cool plane.
Welcome aboard!
You said Bentonville, and I subscribed. I’m out of Ft Smith, working on my PPL in Sallisaw!
This was a great video. You did a great job. Enjoyed learning about this plane. Merry Christmas to you and your beautiful family.❤️
This was a really fun video to watch, I subscribed!
When will the Corsair or P-38 Lightning be available?😃
Great review of a beautiful aircraft. Just wondering, does anyone know why it was scaled down to 70% instead of 1:1?
Are there any plans for a full scale version?
I wish someone would do the same for the P-47 Thunderbolt. Who doesn’t love the Jug !
Really cool I had a RV-8 but this is always what I wanted
I am fully going to build and fly that airplane. I am super excited about what aviation will morph into over the next 20 years.
Can you afford it? Do you have a license that allows for acrobatics?
Regarding the limitation of propeller inertia due to the small prop shaft, it should be possible to design a new gearbox for the Rotax, that has the necessary strength and at the same time a much higher gear ratio so the tips of a scale propeller won't be overspeeding. The gearbox could also be longer to add clearance between the engine and the front of the cowling.
Interested!!! Even more interested in the "drop tank" option when or if coming to fruition.... maybe a five-hour flight/1,000-mile flight time? Obviously, a fair-weather VFR fun ride, but, then again, that's when you want everyone to see and hear it! lol Far cheaper than a Thunder Mustang!
Very cool! Thank you for sharing your time, talent and experience!
Awesome video! Thanks (Lafayette, LA)
Great review!! Thanks for sharing dozen!
Thanks for watching!
this is an amazing replica, my only gripe is the length of the Propellers being a bit too short for my taste but I'm that can be fixed with a 1:1 recreation of the propellers size
Came over from your IG channel. Glad to see you finally transitioned to long form videos! The dog fighting video is still one of my favorites!
Thanks man. Appreciate it.
@@DozenDuzit anytime! Looking forward what you’ll bring to the channel in 2023!
@@DozenDuzit this kind of content is pretty entertaining (plus he’s an actual F-16 pilot who asked people to let him know if they want to dogfight on DCS!
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Seen a lot of 3/4 P-51s, and this one is definitely one of the coolest. I'm curious if they would ever consider making a scaled down P-47, or F4U
Or a FW190 :)
Would you actually buy one or do you just want to watch someone on UA-cam flying them
Great ship! Would love to see a P-47 with a Verner Scarlett 9.
Personally I love to fly the AN-2, it's a camping bus for 8-10 of your best friends!😃
Thanks for making this video! There isn’t enough content on the SW51 out there. Does it have inverted fuel/oil systems or are you limited to +g aerobatics?
There isn’t a lot of content because it’s brand new to market. I’ll do my best to answer. The Rotax does not have inverted fuel/oil. If I remember correctly, neither did the Original P-51. This airplane is ideal for basic aerobatics, but if you are wanting to do outside maneuvers, I’d recommend either find a different plane (Extra/Gamebird/ect) or since it experimental, find a solution to the problem with a different engine. The airframe is plenty strong, the only limit right now is a reliable engine that can fit in the cowling. I am actually really excited to see what innovative customers do to their airplanes to continue to evolve it.
I was about to ask the same. Was wondering if this plane could do some loops and barrels to make the fun even better.
One of the biggest question marks I have about this is the fuel capacity. 26 gallons seems a bit of a joke, particularly if you fit it with a larger engine like the 600hp Supercharged Corvette motor mentioned in the materials on their website. That motor at cruise would burn through that 26 gallons in no time. Realistically, I think you need 75-90 gallons of fuel on board.
I haven’t been able to find any information at all on whether this is a contemplated issue or not by the designers. I’m wondering if they’ve made provisions in the wing design for larger tanks, and if the 26 gallon tanks currently offered are really the beta/1.0 design of the airplane with the idea of using the Rotax
A friend of mine just received his kit and I asked about the fuel capacity issue. He said that there will be external “drop tanks” if you need more fuel capacity but I can’t find any reference to the website. In their PDF brochure, it gives spec’s for an experimental version with the 600hp Chevy engine with a max weight of 1200kg vs 700kg with the Rotax. With that big of an increase, I wonder if it is a different kit to accommodate the bigger engine.
@@BrentT70 yeah I thought drop tanks might be an option. But I think that their utility (what they can carry realistically) will be pretty limited. And they’ll certainly alter the flight characteristics and add a bunch of drag. I too noticed the weight difference, which made me wonder if that was related to bigger in-wing tanks. That would be the ideal solution for me. A lot of the appeal of the P51 in the first place is it’s performance. This plane won’t come close to the original climb rate of the original with the Merlin unless if packs some serious power up front. 600 would certainly give it real teeth, but you wouldn’t practically be able to use that power without more fuel on board
Great question. I asked the same thing. Right now the inner wings are wet, but the outer half are dry. They have the models to add fuel to the outer wing as well. That should double the capacity which would help with a bigger engine for sure. The 26 gallons is great with the Rotax or something burning 7-8 GPH, but 100% agree, not nearly enough for a big engine. Drop tanks are an interesting idea. I hadn’t heard that. I’d hate to add all that drag though if more fuel can go in the wings.
I agree about internal fuel being much more preferable. Drop tanks would cause all kinds of potential problems.
From a power perspective, the OG Mustang gross weight was 9,200lbs pushed by 1490HP.
Assuming 50 Galons, bigger engine weight, and two 170lbs adults, your are looking at a weight of about 2,000 lbs for the Saw-51. To have the same thrust to weight as the original mustang, the Carbon Mustang would only need 323HP. 600HP might be good for Reno, but IMHO anything over about 220-250HP is a waste for normal use.
I don't think any chevy engine burns 26 gallons an hour. The fuel flow would be comparable to what would find on the street to keep reliability a reality. I talking a recreational plane not a racer.
This thing is rad
Hey man, your videos are awesome keep it up! Thanks for doing these great "reviews".
Thank you Elias!
Such a beautiful bird! Would love to build one of these!
Ok, this might have to be our next build... This looks like such a fun plane to fly.
I've seen you fly out of Bentonville several times! NWA is where it's at!
Love the video! Getting my PPL now and this is a dream plane. Although the rotax is enough I’d love a v12 in there for the functional pipes! See you say the avionics are just ok. What avionics would you recommend?
Keep the dream alive AJ. The avionics that I was talking about were only used in SN01. In fact it even that airplane is being upgraded with Garmin. Options for traditional avionics (6 pack style) or the most advanced G3X are available.
This, a C-17 full load of info.
Delivered at F-15EX velocity.
Fully intact, 0% loss.
👍😎👍
There's guys in australia that make V12 aluminium LS engines that use alot of the LS7 parts. Imagine having one of those in this thing
imagine having kitplanes looklike f22s in future (we currently have p51 looklike kits)
Looks like a dream !
Looks Really Really Good 👍 Very interesting indeed
What a beauty
What airport (runway 31) is that @ 16:11 ?
5M5 Crystal Lake
I'm surprised the Rotax is burning that much. I know in the Autogyro Cavalon it burns 5 gal in cruise. What percentage of power are you running in the '51?
The wings should not show rivets. The original P-51 wings had the rivets filled to smooth out the airfoil so this SW-51 should not have rivets showing. Look it up.
Great video and you answered my questions.
Didn’t know that you lived in Bentonville! Followed you for quite a long time now. I live in Fayetteville. Did you film all these scenes here in NWA?
We sure did!
I absolutely love your aircraft and the video.
Excellent video and man I want one too!😊
Beautiful!
Sold!😁Motivated to go earn the dollars and then retire so I have time to build. Been following the videos from the manufacturer which are technically informative, but this is the best all-round vid on this plane. I currently fly a Bristell with the little brother 912 engine, and I can absolutely believe this thing would really get up and go with the 915, as well as being economical to operate and super reliable, and that explanation and clip of the sound - wow. The extra weight and cost of putting in a chevy seems like overkill.
2 questions you didn't address: (1) Can this thing potentially be equipped IFR and (2) what are the armament options? OK, joking about that second one... 🤭
Awesome!
At 70% scale.... 303 or 308 browning 🤣
Cool to have all that flying experience at such a young age. Looks like your son too, was really digg'n the flight.
Dozen, thanks for your service man! Great review video. Where can I buy one?
Check out the ScaleWing website and submit a inquiry. They are catching up on the demand right now but hopefully they will be able to get back to you quickly though.
@@DozenDuzit Awesome! Happy New Year! Thanks again and God bless you!
Dozen, as an RV8 owner I was intrigued with the comparison comment. So it brings on more questions that the SW website doesn't cover:
- How slippery is it in the vertical? How fast does speed increase downhill?
- And aligned with that, what's VNE? Especially if someone puts a Honda in there and they upgrade to prop shaft?
So I did some BFM in the Mustang against my buddy in his RV-8. They honestly handle very similarly. He won in a drag race with his 210HP, but I had a slight edge in the slow speed fight. The SW is a bit more nimble as well. I’m not sure what the flutter test was engineered for, but I know that SW paid some of the top engineers a lot of money to ensure it was designed for a high Vne. If I find out what that number was I’ll post it here.
@@DozenDuzit Tks! My 8 is a 180hp lycoming w/2 blade fpp. The vne is 230 TAS due to flutter. Va is 140 (ias mph), and there's plenty of power (adding more just puts you into the VNE corner downhill). And the 230TAS limits altitude at speed. I could expand my build with flutter testing, but evidently there has not been a flutter survivor in the plane.
And fwiw, my flight videos are at channel N349DM
Seeing your young man in the back seat was worth the price of admission ! Do you know if the leading edge of the vertical fin is offset to port side by 1 degree or there a bouts ?
Big Thank You to Polish
Engineers for building these P51 Mustang Replicas In Poland 🇵🇱
An Australian company has created a V12 version of the GM LS engine. I can see one fitting in that airframe.
Unbelievable review! You are great. I’m not qualified to ask this but how much of an issue is the propeller shaft in the future if you want to mount variable (more powerful) power plants? And what do you think would be the optimal, piston driven engine with regard to the attainment of the “ultimate” performance envelope.
I think a reasonably sized engine could be an automotive inline six, because it will have a sound similar to a V-12. Apart from that, any other engine configuration will have a sound that doesn't fit the airplane. (Except for a V-12 of course). I adressed the prop shaft issue in another post.
How much weight does the parachute system add? Would love to see it as an option without it.
The parachute is an optional upgrade. I’m not sure what the weight difference is off the top of my head.
yep like fashion models 'dreams' for most ,but mate a nice job done , can they do a spitfire ?, and I hear calls for a fockerwolf 190 ,and corsair . probably the honda V6 aero ,245Hp,conversion package would be a nice fit too . do I hear a top gun dog fight school being set up ,with lazer tag 50 cals ?. [who'll play lufty waffies ], would need ballistic chutes .
Excellent stuff bro
I think Imma dust my ol student hat and go and get myself a tailwheel endorsement and aerobatic training now
Please do a review on the Stewart mustang!!!! It’s a full metal 70% scale replica
If you know of one I can fly for a month, I’d love to do a side by side comparison.
Great job!
Hey where’s the airport in the last shot? I love the Fly OZ world but haven’t been to that one.
5M5 - Crystal Lake
@@DozenDuzit Thanks, I'll check it out. My tailwheel club TacAero will be down there in June for our second year of barnstorming around there! Love the place!
"$300,000.00?!" "OUCH!" "RICHIE LIKEY, BUT NO TOUCHY!"😭
Yea, still 1/10th the price of a real one lol.
@way2sh0rt07grad I'll go call up W.A.R. REPLICAS and see if they have plans for a P - 51 Mustang. The old Home Depot special sounds a lot cheaper right now. All I have to do is find a Suzuki V6 with a super charger on it to stuff into the engine bay. 🤣
"... whether you've started in a 172..." Makes one who started in a C-150 or Cherokee 140 know they are old. Great presentation. Some more time spent on the cockpit would have been nice.
Great presentation! Is there no mechanical elasticity built into the design, given all that stiff carbon? I can see myself wasting a lot of engineering time asking questions. Alas, too old to see myself flying one.
Going to take me a few years for this be in the hangar.
Very nice, someday somebody will make a full scale Mustang or something else!
Keep on Flying! 👍
There're dozens of full scale Mustangs under construction and some 150+ Mustangs flying of which most of their structure is new built.
I am not a pilot, Submarine Nuke in fact so ... can't get much different environments lol. I would absolutely get my licience if I could afford one of these beauties. Is the Standard Engine adequate to do decent stunts or would the bigger option be worth the costs?
When you join the military and they make you a pilot, what happens when you end your military career? Do you automatically have a civilian pilots license when you get out or do you have to go through the same process as civilians that become pilots?
You still have to go through the licensing procedure and get checked out by and instructor pilot in the airframe you will be regularly flying. What happens is that your military training record applies to the training requirements and basically they look over your logbook, contact your branch and confirm your course completions. Like getting credit for going to one university for a while or community college and then switching to a new school and transferring your credits to complete your degree. The FAA doesn't give you a rubber stamp, military procedures and regulations are not the same as civilian ones. Lots of overlap, but they need to verify your training is certified and authentic, before giving you "credit" so to speak.
Did ScaleWings purchase the assets of Papa51 Thunder Mustang?
Very cool plane! I’m wondering what the runway length is required to takeoff and land in it?
Whats the VNE and cruise on this aircraft? I would be left with no choice but to see and hear a V8 502 roar out of this unit!
Great Video!
Thank you!
Just a quick jargon tip, when you mention "getting behind the aircraft" most here thought you meant getting into pilot's seat, flying it. You want to be ahead of the airplane/jet as much as possible, but they didn't get what a bad position it is to be behind it. Ahead of the airplane, "We are going to tickle the rudders here... moderate crosswind on landing...into the crab... feel that buffet...rudder in... touchdown!" Behind the airplane means you are about to ground loop...by not observing what is about to happen or not trained to know what is about to happen, not getting into a proper crosswind approach attitude/control inputs, and an example. Great vid, man those ducks did not see you coming, across that pond. "Wait, is that a Mustang, why is he setting up for a water landing? On top of us! What the quack!!! Everyone scatter!" 🤣
Dude the only thing that could make this better would be to give this thing one of them 1500 horse power engines they used to use back then. Bud idk if this thing being as light as it is could handle the torque
Why put a 150hp engine in such an awesome bird?
What airport was in the final scene over the river?
I wanna get this just to customize it via giving it a custom paint job