When Wing Chun Works It Looks Awesome
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- Опубліковано 23 чер 2024
- We have three examples of wing chun kungfu working in the sparring or ring context. Let's watch and enjoy! First match is Wing Chun vs Kenpo. Second match is two styles of wing chun matched up (Sifu Keith Mazza's student vs Moy Yat Wing Chun Philadelphia student). Third match is Wing Chun (same student Jerry Devone) vs Baguazhang (DJ). Let me know which one you liked the best, and make sure to answer my fun question at the end for viewers.
First clip from HBayani:
• Kenpo Karate vs Wing C...
• Kenpo Karate vs Wing C...
Second clip from Sifu Redmond here:
• Wing Chun's Jerry Devo...
Third clip from Sifu Rahsun here:
• Man Up Stand Up Champi...
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Timecodes:
0:00 Wing Chun vs Kenpo Karate
2:11 Wing Chun (Jerry Devone) vs Wing Chun (Bobby Brown)
3:33 Wing Chun vs Bagua
6:42 How to send me more clips to analyze
7:23 Fun question for viewers
8:06 Anyone featured is invited to interview with me - Спорт
Ha, that's me in the second and third fight. I'm available for questions. Came out of the Traditional Wing Chun system, main instructor being Sifu Keith Mazza(MAH-zuh, not mu-ZAH).
Hey Jerry! Do you teach online?
@FightCommentary No, I used to help with class instruction at a couple of different schools when I had more time for it. Never online, though. I think Sifu Phu Ngo has excellent online instruction as far as that goes. I also still study with Sifu Mazza, was just at his class tonight, a lot of pad work, drills, and sparring. I needed more of that 10 years ago lol. One more thing, there should be footage of the 1st 2 rounds of that fight somewhere. I have a copy but I need to find it. I think I did better at the beginning but by the 3rd round I was exhausted.
Cool. If you do find the first two rounds, let me know. Do you still compete and test out your Wing Chun. Also, do you train in other arts too?
@FightCommentary Compete? No. I was already a little late getting into the fight game when I entered MUSU. I wish there were better competitions to enter when I was younger, but it was either some type of point sparring or the Lei Tai in Maryland. Some of my classmates entered them and did well. I never really liked the headgear and the how wild fighters would get. I'm pretty sure there were guys doing coke or meth then jumping in and just wildly swinging for the trees round punches (partially because of the limitations of the head gear), but I guess that's another story. I have always wanted my kung fu to work so during the time of those fights and after I have studied and or worked with to some degree BJJ, boxing, and Muay Thai. I wrestled for 2 years in high school. Also grew up getting into scraps, so even from a young age, I had some understanding of the reality of getting hit. It's upsetting to see the rep of kung fu because I fully believe it has the potential to display the very best of martial arts, but practitioners need to find ways to test it out, spar, and refine it under pressure. Kung fu has all the other tools, with the insane conditioning, the specific skill development, the meditation, and the techniques.
How long has that lei tai in Maryland been going around? People keep sending me videos from that event.
Wing chun vs Bagua was super facinating, two very opposite concepts, bagua angling off of the center vs wing chun that pressures down the center, super cool!!
Wing Chun is very misunderstood, love this!
It is mostly for weapon fighting
@@youareacoward8459 I use the term "Wing Chun" for all denominations, lineages and styles, and yeah chi sao is great
Wouldn't say it's misunderstood, most people that can fight just know it's a useless art and waste of time when it comes to real defense
@@arnotschmitt8986 that's an oversimplification
@arnotschmitt8986 - Learn the form, then forget the form.
Those fast "little" punches are actually delivering crazy forces!!! Just that forearm is a lot of mass delivering high forces when moved very quickly! There was some very fast snap to some of those punches.
Many martial artists seem to lose their form when doing a few rounds with a different style of fighting they tend to get a little bit scrappy.
It would be incredible to watch good fighters who remain true to their discipline.
Love the commentary 👍👍👍
Props to Jerry! 👏
He's the only one of the three who not only was fighting well, but ALSO was representing the essence of the style about as well as anybody could in real time against full resistance. Very impressive display. 💯
Yooooo, the second and third clips were at the same spot where Black Taoist beat Gus Kaporos! As a New Yorker, it’s dope to see that spot getting some shine again, and it’s just as good of a feeling to see Wing Chun get some love. I’ve told people that Wing Chun is a good martial art, but most people look at the clips of guys like Xu Xiaodong beating kung fu “masters” to a pulp and think that’s how all of kung fu is. From personal experience, much of the techniques from the sticking hands exercises can be used to defuse situations. I worked as a security guard for a MICA facility for 11 years, and as someone who wasn’t trained on the job to break up fights or defend myself, having prior martial arts skills came in handy, especially Wing Chun and Tai Chi. Many of the redirection techniques are even more ideal than what they teach in SCIP classes. (I took SCIP classes when I became a direct care counselor.) I hope more of these clips can show the potential of traditional martial arts.
Thanks for sharing that! Very cool to know!
Yep that was Man Up Stand Up. My boy Novell(Black Taoist) is a huge advocate for pressure testing kung fu. Look up MUSU for more clips.
New Yorker here too. Where's this gym?
@@bydeuce that was filmed in Harlem.
Wing Chun viewers, please keep sending me stuff. I found these clips through the UA-cam algorithm. I was originally looking up cool Tai Chi clips that viewers sent me, and I eventually stumbled on these. I know Wing Chun viewers got some gems that I can't find from the UA-cam Algo. Sifu Redmond, I have your number, so I will give you a call. Sifu Rahsun, I would love to interview you some time! Anyone else featured, please contact me too if you want!
Jerry I contacted your Facebook page 🙏
I can send some wing chun sparrings, I used some wc in my fights but I'm a jjj grappler mostly so usualy I go with grappling right away, but I have some cool sparring footage, ps. Speaking about the styles you havent covered much is Japanese Ju jitsu, I'm a jjj and wing chun guy so my mma is very unorthodox, maybe it'd be cool to show idk. 🤷♂️
@@RichPTI think wing chun conceptualy is all about forward pressure so it's non existend if you go back, that being said that's why wc people need to spar and box a bit because if the forward pressure fails you need to know how to recover and move
There's a video of an American Wing Chun practitioner Shawn McGuire winning an open full contact martial arts competition which is very good. I think it is at the end of an Indianapolis Wing Chun video
It's nice to see people who actually know how to fight with the art.
yeah that trapping was super advanced
just proves that its not about the art its about the fighter
I would love to see more judo vs striking. Those are really fun to watch.
Judo is supposed to have striking in it! Same with Jiu Jitsu... They were obviously all around when used for real... Sorry if I am just stating the obvious...
We will send you both 💎 and gym’s my friend 😂 love your energy in this one! ❤
Foot work is so important to make any style work,
I don't know if you have covered Kali/Eskrima before but that would be interesting!
Thanks for the content dude, appreciate you.
Great use of Wing Chun moves.
The key is Chum Kiu (crossing bridge) to bridge into mid-range combat training.
Many schools are learning that.
You do excellent covered of many styles. Love your work
Glad you like them!
Nukes top five voice: "did you see it?"
Love the content brother. As a Wing Chun Kung Fu guy myself I am happy to see this. When any martial arts system works it looks amazing.
Base on Wing Chun pants, he is at Technician Level(Black Belt) what degree? I don’t know. He is from the same lineage as me which Leung Ting
Very cool! You have any wing chun clips? If so, please share!
They will be coming. When? Idk but they will be coming
Keep me posted. My email is in the about section. I check FB once in a while too.
Great videos and great coverage of them. Liked and subscribed from a Brit trained in Wing Chun in Guangzhou, China.
I like Man Up Stand Up because they test themselves. Are they full of less useful stuff? sure but sometimes you get gold.
"It's not a matter of Northern STYLE or Southern Style." ~ Donnie Yen, when portraying a Wing Chun guy in a movie.
3:27 was that an lap sao and punch or?
Yes 😁
Love seeing that gungfu!!!!
Just came here after a first time watch of all 4 Ip Man movies. While I understand it's very dramatized in the films, Wing Chun as a martial art and the story of Ip Man intrigue me, and I was very curious to see what real life Wing Chun or at least a personal fighting style heavily based in Wing Chun, looks like. It's definitely not as flashy as the films but, the core is still there. Just as you said, keeping an eye on your opponents centerline, using your limbs reactively and proactively for defense and attack, and yeah throw in a little bit of traditional boxing as well for good measure. It is subtle, but it is there if you look closely, and enables the user to make the most of an opportunity.
Also, Yuen Kay San was the real person that the Ip Man movie based the first movie's events on. So make sure to do some research on Yuen Kay San.
It depends on the person using the style.
Instructions are also important.
The 1st Wing Chun guy clearly has some boxing training. Look at the head movement. I don't know much about Wing Chun, but from my understanding you are supposed to move with your whole body there. His style reminds me of jailhouse rock a lot.
Main weapons of Wing Chun is finger jabs to the eyes, punches or finger jabs to the throat and groin kicks. It is fair to say that a lot of what you see about Wing Chun does not align with original intent which was brutal self defense... Same with most martial arts styles. Most gyms teach for sport or fitness or aesthetics... Not as many people want to train in a more serious way and every teacher will tech a bit different from his teachers... Styles morph... If you want something that works in real situations, then you have to find teachers that teach in realistic ways.
Very entertaining especially the second fight.
RE: the second fight. One of the worst habits wing chun has, IMHO, is in an effort for more extended reach of the fist -- especially for chain punches where you stand relatively square rather than bladed -- most conventional wing chun stylists have their chins up and shoulders low which of course leave it open as a target. You can see this bad habit in all three hand sets.
Besides reach, the unintentional philosophy is that while throwing chain punches that your centerline is protected because your fists and arms are occupying the centerline. Unfortunately this doesn't hold up in practicality especially fighting non-wing chun fighters who will throw looping punches, slip and attack from the blind side, and strike at targets that are not on the centerline such as the side of the head or liver.
Yep. I love your phrase "unintentional philosophy." I think Wing Chun suffers the most from that. Another unintentional philosophy is the not caring about where you're looking. It has to do with certain drills they do that are supposed to practice sensitivity, but then the wing chunner actually looks away from the action during some of those drills. Boy is that a bad habit. When pressured, you'll react based on the moves you've done the most. So if you're constantly looking away, then when pressure, your natural reflex response is going to be emphasized.
I love this phrase "unintentional philosophy."
The chain punches in Wing Chun are a legitimate technique exclusively to be used at short range, but the principles and concepts behind the movement are more important than the technique itself.
The concept of a knockout: In Wing Chun, we mostly aim for the head to cause a knockout, but we'd rather rely on two or three quick consecutive punches to do the job than with a single blow. The first punch moves the brain inside the fluid to the side of the skull, the second makes sure the brain crashes into the skull, causing the knockout. The more time there is between the strikes, the greater the chances the brain will recover.
The concept of the continuation of attack: Every punch is thrown with intent, but if it gets blocked, you must clear the obstruction or change the line of attack.
The concept of occupying the centerline: Two objects cannot exist in the same space at the same time. In close distance, a Wing Chun punch does not get retracted all the way back; instead, another punch replaces it. This is so you keep enough space between you and your opponent to attack with punches.
The concept of the centerline does hold up in practice but is not applicable to the context of combat sports or sparring due to differences in range between self-defense and sparring. I don't know why everyone thinks Wing Chun is all about blasting in with chain punches from miles away, but really this is against Wing Chun principles. Realistically, the centerline theory is not an absolute truth. Although a straight line might be a shorter distance than a curve, that does not mean you will always be faster. However, if you are in close, you will most likely beat your opponent to the punch, applying centerline theory. There's a misconception that Wing Chun cannot deal with hooks, which exists just because of bad practitioners on the internet.
@@florisvanlingen Yes but chain punches are not unique to wing chun. The "one-two" (jab to cross) in boxing, kickboxing, and muay Thai is also a chain punch especially when thrown as a blast. The difference is that the boxer will not put total faith that merely occupying the centerline is enough defense because the opponent can beat you on the centerline with speed, or strength or both. The boxer is trained to keep their chin low, and shoulders high for protection (yes I know we see many boxers violate this practice). This is totally violated in many wing chun styles -- the worst culprit bring Leung Ting's wing tsun who advocates putting your chin up to get more reach.
Another problem with wing chun's chain or straight blast compared to boxing and kickboxing is that it relies far too much on arm power with little to no shoulder rotation or hip rotation which helps produce power (There are other ways including the "drop step" as explained in Jack Dempsey's book "Championship Fighting"). Coincidentally, Dempsey's power jab is very wing chun like in its description in that the fist is thrown square and not rotated, and in a non telegraphed straight trajectory striking with the last three knuckles. The difference is that it adds shoulder rotation and a drop step.
Now this might not matter if you are 220 lbs and fighting someone who is 150 lbs but it is relevant if you are a much smaller fighter. Wing chun has often been described as an ideal art for smaller people like women. But I have yet to see a small, female wing chun practitioner be able to generate the same power with chain punches as females learning boxing, or kickboxing who use a combination of stepping and shoulder and hip rotation. Power = mass x velocity
I know there are wing chun styles who have addressed this limitation so I'm not blanketing all wing chun lineages .
A lot of wing chun theory does make sense but theory only works when "all things being equal" which is hardly the case in something so unpredictable and dynamic as combat.
The stance leaves you open at range, it's needed close to open the gap. chi. should never be up like that regardless. The biggest weakness is lack being taught how to close or develop range ime
I think that guy is using William Cheungs Wing Chun, I can see. If you can see the leg movement in this Wing Chun is little bit different, from lets say Qi La La for example. I also want to see some example from that type of Wing Chun but barely you can find about it
I believe that Qi La La comes from the Wong Shun Leung Lineage.
That Kenpo artist is or was a noob. He was moving like he was point fighting or it was his first time sparring full contact. It was a guy fighting in his known backyard vs newbie.
I think it would be cool to explore some taekkyon as well as some taido, though it's kinda hard to find good footage of those styles as far as I've noticed.
Keep up the good work, love your vids!
That's right! I would love to feature some Taekkyon, but like you said, it's hard to find good footage.
Wing chun nerds rise up!
Well these guys embodied the concept of keeping their head safe pretty much only by parrying, positioning and trapping which is often preached in classic wing chun.
Which is impressive against what it looks like equally skilled oponents. You don't see that often. Good on these people, I wonder where their martial arts journey went after these matches.
Agreed. WC dude has much better rooting, which is why his mediocre punching still can bite. Karate dude needs to work on his base and balance. There's zero (even instantaneous) moment when he's in a good solid stance. He's more or less being juggled as a result. Great fighters blitz in and out of rooting mobility.
the guy in the suit is novell
Sweep the leg! Lol
My friend study wing chun back in the 1980s. Today people see the water downed wing chun. He showed me moves that attack throat and eyes, counter fists attack that will break fists. With this I laugh online when I see people talk about MMA fighter vs wing chun. MMA is still a sport, not live combat.
We all know, when a fight comes, composure is key! The only game plan is survival and win!
Did you check out wing chun vs i think krav maga gregmma if you want to see it.
Which one is that?
@@FightCommentary I'll send you the video
Thanks! @@clanterminaition3257 If it's that French Karate Bushido channel, they don't respect fair use. But hopefully it's a different video!
@@FightCommentary oh yeah it was Karate bushido but did you watch Division vs soamoan Beast
On streetbeefs
Could 1st match be due to opponents being different weight classes? Black clothes and height on the bigger guy and gear on the smaller could be obscuring the difference
Could be! The guy actually took on a Karateka that was twice his size too. But that match isn't complete. I'll cover that one soon if I can find the complete one. I'm reaching out to the guy to see if I can get in touch.
They look like two chickens fighting 😂😂😂😂
I didn't know Mort from family guy's son had a you tube channel😅
2:37 problem with a lot of stand up styles is that they don't know what to do once grappled
The blocking. They are subtle. His forearms must be very sore after all these sparring matches.
But, the reason a lot of those strikes couldn't land clean is because wing chun has those forearm blocks which become second nature.
Really good in standard fights but, when you get into these higher level matches the blocking becomes a detriment to long term fights.
Studied wing chun, semi touch; karate and taekwondo. Was in the amature boxing circuit in the NW.
Yep
It's not Wing Chun, it's boxing he's doing.
I don't see them doing many elbow strikes or piercing, side slashes or kicks.
You don't see the full range of tricks that Wing Chun offers. But nevertheless looks a lot better than what most Wing Chun MMA fighters are showing.
YOu are really saying you didn't see either of the fighters throwing kicks? really?
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 Read my statement carefully again.
@@ChariotOfFaith what did you think i mistook about your statement here? "I don't see them doing many elbow strikes or piercing, side slashes or kicks. " the last word was kicks. and i saw kicks. how did you miss them?
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 Did you pay attention to the word ‘many’ it means I didn’t see them do many. Implies they did *some* kicks. Not none.
@@hungsingkwoonusa650 P.S although in Wing Chun typically that aren’t that many different kick variations you can do because they are mainly low kicks and a side kick. To be flexible you can do a high kick to the head, or spin kick or sweep kick but that would be incorporating a different style of Kung Fu.
Which guy is the wing Chun ??
usually the one losing...sigh....
@@youareacoward8459 sarcasm. joke being the youtube wing chu guys are usually not trained to fight
This is essentially still kickboxing with a WC element, the core isn't WC.
Probably Bajiquan in Japan by Tamotsu Miyahara. This guy is a beast
Tell me more!
@@FightCommentary .. you gotta see this channel kuro-obi world. Tamotsu Miyahara likes to exchange his skills against a black belt in karate and JKD. He's also a master at breaking bones and pressure points 😅.... Godbless from Malaysia .
What level is that guy doing wing chun? That's not how you punch
Rugby?
That would be a great video. Do you know if there's ever been a way to fuse Rugby with some other sport? I wonder and I'll take a look!
@@FightCommentary I wonder the other way around:If a number of Rugby players take judo or wrestling lessons.
I don't know much about it, as a German I am more knowledgeable about Football, but I find Rugby fascinating and very manly. I see it as kind of team combat sport, similar to what happens in some Spanish or Italian towns annually.
In the end, YOU are more of an expert then I, most likely.
Can you interview former students off Bullshido? (aka victims)
THAT would be epic!!
Gemmy
What's Gemmy?
@@FightCommentary Soyjak manneirisms. Never learn about them...
Thanks for bringing me into this new world!
Another video that makes me wish it was a Muay Thai guy versus the wing chun guy because he would get tuned up. His boxing is better than the kenpo guy’s because it is so subpar, not because the wing chin is so great. Kenpo guy paws and wouldn’t have any power in his strikes regadless. He doesn’t create space with his kicks. I wouldn’t call it good kenpo, but I don’t follow kenpo so who knows
mauy thai doesn't beat everyone
My teacher taught me Tai chi chuan but My teacher was taught by one of ip man disciples when he was a child so I have an understanding of it to some degree
That flops looks too slippery
Lol. All brawl, where is the chain punch. Flailing hand everywhare
Great Share - always looking for good examples of Wing Chun fighting - check out Sifu Gary Lam's school, he trains strong fighters
Look like not wing chung too me😂
Chinese martial arts they like to touch the opponent once they get in the range they don't want to lose contact with the opponent this looks more like kickboxing than real traditional Chinese kung fu Tai chuan Wing Chun is all infighting close up so they want to touch the opponent and feel what they're doing once you make contact you're not supposed to separate from the opponent until they're incapacitated or put down
When it comes to kung fu it's a martial art, has little to do with fighting or even self defense given most highschool wrestlers can take out a master
Gojo vs Miguel
Ok, you should cover Senegalese wrestling, Dambe, Catch wrestling, Sambo, Sanda, Japanese Jujitsu, traditional Karate, TKD, Kudo (the head butts and gi grabs are interesting), Hapkido, Shorinji and Nippon Kempo, Lethwei, Mongolian wrestling, Muay Lao and Kun Khmer (look into their dispute with the Thais for the origin of the "muay thai") Choy Lee Fut and Praying Mantis
Talking about Kudo, someone just sent me a russian channel and knows the owner. So definitely more Kudo to come!
Jujitsu is Japanese. That's why jujitsu from Brazil is called "Brazilian" juistu. It's like hip hop. You don't call hip hop in America "american hip hop". Or call salsa from Puerto Rico "Puerto Rican salsa"
@@FightCommentary I forgot one.. Semi Contact Kickboxing, thats were Raymond Daniels and Michael Venom Page comes from. Im tired of people saying they do Karate, the Machida brothers do Karate, is different. Wonderboy Thompson doesn't come from Karate neither
The chisao and trapping comes from Praying Mantis
@@nephiilim Yeah but in these days it's needed to specified because everybody thinks you mean the Brazilian school.. even in Japan 😄
While Bruce Lee, eventually went on to create JKD, he stressed footwork, footwork, footwork.
Generally speaking, if your footwork is good, you can handle any opponent.
Do more Indian martial arts.
Kenpo guy looks way lighter :)
I thought I was watching McDojo Life haha especially the first 2 guys looked like a couple 10 year olds fighting
You gotta be kidding me. They fight game aint talking bout nothing.
Wing Chun looks awesome yet simple and direct
Trapping would be dangerous against elbows.
Yep. A lot of things about fighting make wing chun techniques moot. That's why it's so hard to see clean wing chun ever when pressure tested against non-wing-chun ;)
@@FightCommentaryno fight has "cleam" techniques man. It's always a mess. The trapping though isn't usually done properly, from what I've seen on youtube
Ok, first of great video my friend. Secondly, I saw boxing more than wing chun here. I did karate, kung-fu, boxing, kickboxing and bjj and I can say all styles, even boxing, have some wing chun aspects in it. So here I saw a better boxer defeating a not so experienced karateka. PS. I commented before finishing the video and he said "Boxers will say there is no wing chun". Hahahaha, you read my mind dude.
Did/Will you interview Peter Irving for the Mabugao (butchered his name) fake kung fu master claiming to beat him story?
Yes, that's another one that I need to follow up on. Just been so overloaded with interviews, but Peter will definitely happen. I'll put it on my to-do list.
@@FightCommentary Awesome, big fan of the channel
Welp I guess this proves lineage doesn't outright prove a person's competency in Wing Chun. From what I've found Keith Mazza is part of the William Cheung lineage, which has been stated to be a source of poor practitioners. Jerry seems to somewhat debunk that
The first fight I tried looking for Wing Chun...where is it?
I see boxing jabs. Jabs jabs...where is the wing Chun?
that's all applied wing chun, man
The general prejudice toward WC fasinates me. It's based purely on heresay and is perpetuated (I believe deliberately) by various means online. Watch a video of a WC guy getting beaten, that WC guy will be described as a "Master". Because apparently WC sucks so much even its masters get smashed by a kid who's done two years of boxing or whatever. People LOVE to pontificate. Even about things they don't understand. I'd love to understand the psychology behind this.
No weight class? Kenpo karate less experienced and it shows!
0:38
劈掛掌
2:48
Pretty silly stuff. Mostly they don't get "it".
More like boxing than wing chun
No! Now don't get me wrong I have always been a lover of martial arts especially kung-fu and have watched hundreds of kung-fu movies throughout the years beginning with Bruce lee because I'm old school but to keep it 100 professional boxers are the real and true warriors it's nothing fake or staged bruce lee himself even studied boxing by watching Muhammad Ali also boxers are use to being hit jot martial artist and like boxer and former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson once said everybody has got a plan until they get hit
Is this a joke ?
wing chun left the video tho 😂
I didn't see the essence of wing chun at all..no grounding technique and too much move. It doesn't have step forward that we called seung ma. Its like boxing. 😃
I love how the online community's attitude towards traditional chinese martial arts has gradually transitioned from
"why do TCMA guys keep getting beat by other MAs? those 'masters' should really snap out of their delusions man! "
to "when TCMA works it looks awesome! ... oh look! there's one of my favourite sifus! :D"
Not really. They still get beat up, but I like finding gems.
That kempo fighter was thought wrong sloppy fight ing sorry but I been fighting and doing shalion kempo and Tracey kempo for 30 years his teacher has not thought him the way of kempo
I have extensive Muay Thai training and these guys would most likely knock me out pretty quick. Is it because Wing Chun is better? Heck no, I'm just fat, slow, and completely out of shape, and have zero timing right now. So that is full disclosure. Having said that, this looks like horrible, modified boxing using a straight line theory and calling it Wing Chun. If you do the old "Wing Chun Lean Back" as you are striking as they are, hopefully a boxer will not do permanent damage with a body shot. They are just doing one dimensional "face tag" with their fists and calling it a fight.
All I see It's brawling and bad boxing. 😮
Are you seriuos? None of the non-WC guys had any considerable skills in whatever their martial arts was supposed to be.
I see no difference in this than street fight . bs
On fighting WC lost the elegance
Typical Wing Chun can't be used in fighting sports especially with gloves on. When Wing Chun practitioners spar they don't use gloves or sports rules. Bruce Lee added other stuff to his art because typical Wing Chun needs other stuff to become successful
Not impressed at all. If this is fighting then what’s the point of training the system if one is using all of the system fully and effectively? No wonder people feel as if MMA is the ultimate form of combat and it’s not.
Wing chun guy is a man. Red helmet is a kid. Adult on adult would be a better indicator of what works.
The wing Chun guy uses bad kickboxing
That's awful... Neither can fight and the karate guy clearly hasn't being doing it very long as he has no idea how to fight...
Bull doo doo, both guys are using basic kick boxing technique and not very good at it.
BRUCE LEE FAN BOYS, LOOKING AT THIS, BRUCE LEE WOULDN'T LAST 2 SECONDS AGAINST THE GREATEST MUHAMMAD ALI.
BRUCE LEE AGAINST MIKE TYSON, BRUCE LEE FIGHT OVER IN ONE SECOND..BRUCE WOULDN'T LIVE TO SEE ANOTHER DAY.
BOTH MIKE TYSON AND MUHAMMAD ALI WERE BOTH " REAL FIGHTERS " WHO FOUGHT IN REAL FIGHTS IN MARTIAL ARTS IN FULL CONTACT UNREHEARSED WITHOUT HEAD GEAR. THE TRUTH, BRUCE LEE WAS ONLY AN ACTOR WITH ZERO REAL FIGHT WINS, HIS ONLY WINS WERE IN FICTIONAL STAGED REHEARSED SCRIPTED KUNG-FU MOVIES.
I'm sorry but this is sloppy boxing ( kickboxing ) against an opponent who is not very good at all.
I didn't see any wing chun in the first match, it looked like average kickboxing. Or maybe guy in black did some myai thai, from the look of his hands in the clinch.
Second guy looked more like wing chun, but big guy instantly got huge problems, the moment he faced opponent of +- similar muscle strength and reach.
So i didn't realy see much of working wing chun
THERE'S ALWAYS ONE OF THESE TYPES OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMENTS. THEY SWEAR ONLY THEY KNOW WHAT IS WING CHUN, BLA BLA BLA....NO ONE ELSE KNOWS BUT THEM. YET PEOPLE FROM THE ACTUAL SYSTEM CAN TELL YOU WHERE THE WING CHUN IS. IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT YOU CAN'T SEE IT.
When you win you will be told that I didn't see Wing Chun or Kung Fu. but when you lose it will be called kung fu or wing chun. just like Xu Xiaodong when he beat Lei Lei, the age and size alone were different. Xu Xiaodong was bigger and young, even Lei Lei couldn't fight at all. I didn't see Tai Chi or Kung Fu when Lei Lei competed. He couldn't even kick straight and his movements were stiff. but people think lei lei is the master and the fight is valid. that's ridiculous. and when someone wins they will say I didn't see any kung fu there, that's very funny. people with double standards