Confusion About God's Voice
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2024
- There is so much confusion over the voice of God, hearing from God or discerning what God is saying. In this broadcast, I want to address some ditches that we can get stuck in when it comes to hearing God's voice and some ways we can walk in greater health and wholeness.
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I pray in the name of Jesus that every person that needs this, just like i needed it, may recieve this truth, and may this channel be a lot more famous, may it reach an enormous amount of people, because it deserves it. Thank you Mark
“God’s voice is not intrusive thoughts.” Thanks Mark for making this clear. I have been wrestling with certain repetitive thoughts recently that I wasn’t sure if it was his “voice “ or not. Now I know they are not !
Thank you for this Mark, I find that I have to tune out 95% of the Christian content out there because it fuels this type of mind bending confusion
I'm still recovering and just trying to get back to the basics because I got addicted to watching all of that content and forgot Jesus's sacrifice and that's not a joke,(m I'm struggling but blocking out the "God wants you to-" content helps as well as little social media scrolling I had no idea this type of content was so common that whay I was getting mightve not been a special message from God.
@@lookatyoustrawberrybrunetteI feel you! The amount of anxiety I’d experience scrolling through social media is too large to count, especially when it comes to “prophetic messages”, I had to tune it all out
Well said!
I was lidtening to Dr Dharius Daniels, Change church 3 years. Good deal w exploitation but he was like a guru adress relationship but told he wasnt respect or understand his wife until 10 years in marriage. And spoke about Spiritual gifts and be so educated impress marketplace - but knowledge puff up- love builds up. Not normal. Mailed honest. To Idolize people is not Jesus.
What is love, hope and faith look like ? ❤😂 Heal, learn and grow in the shadow of the valley of the death...
Thank you so much Mark and God bless you! I have continued to make myself smaller and smaller because of the mindset that if I enjoy something it must be an idol and God probably disapproves. I was raised in a very controlling spiritually damning home and I’ve lived 52 years neglecting myself in every aspect of my life until I found your channel. I have been to psychiatrists and mental hospitals. Struggled with addiction, codependency and abusive relationships. Full of exhaustion and hopelessness. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your ministry. I’m scared all the time but I have hope for the first time in my life that God IS ALREADY setting me free. God cares about little ole me and He takes care of me and loves me deeply perfectly. You have opened my eyes and heart to the God who’s never left me and has been showing me the way all along. I am strong in my weakness. Every morning I wake up to fear and dread, almost panicking. But then I breathe pause and put on one of your podcasts or audio book and it reaffirms that God hasn’t turned his back, He’s not disappointed and one step at a time He’s leading me out of the pit. What you preach is so very needed and I thank God for you and Melissa!!!! Please keep doing this and speaking in deprogrammed shame and guilt in the church.
Sending you love and prayers xx
I have never commented on your videos. I have to thank you Mark. Everything you described I have been going through and it has been destroying my mental health. Thank you so much. It’s very liberating
SO MUCH FREEDOM in this content!!! Thank you for sharing your heart and teaching us about what God is TRULY after! Our hearts! ❤❤
Amen!!!
I have a long history of OCD and other mental health issues. I’be also had seizures for 46yrs with an abusive father that punished me for having seizures for 3 yrs until he realized I needed help. What you’re teaching here is “spot on” in my humble experienced opinion.
I hear people say “God told me”…and I think to myself….there is “a god” who is not God at all who is more than happy to even fulfill the delusional thinking. The whole time “we” attribute this to the Our Father in Heaven the One True God found in Jesus Christ.
I’m grateful to hear you speak the Truth in love. May Jesus be glorified..
You are describing my situation point by point. The contrarian feeling had gone so deep in me that even was unable of everyday simple conversation or saying certain words, as I thought they are contrary to God's will. Absurd enough... thanks to His mercy coming out of the situation with the help of prayer. Enormous thanks to you Mark.
I asked God if I should still watch these videos and he said, “NO”! 😂😂😂 Thank you so much for this video. I have not listened to anything like this and I can relate to a lot of points in listening to God’s Voice. Your work has been a huge blessing on my journey.
Thank you for this. I literally started to question if God's voice is real or just our imagination, based on the abusive "God told me and God said" in church. Growing up in a Pentecostal background there was a lot of "God said and God told me". I recently left a church because the Pastor "God said" was way off, abusive and manipulative. Recently I read an article and one of the quotes stated "We must be careful in saying "God said and God told me" unless we are sure. It is better to say I believe, This is what God impressed on my heart or just be quiet and wait to come to pass or is confirmed".
Whenever Mark DeJesús breaks out in song it has to be the best part of every video. 😂
To guilt one's self for not being where you feel God wants you to be is not a good thing, but let"s face it we all know when we're doing it right. Anyone with an ounce of discernment knows when they are walking in the spirit. I hate when I'm not and sadly it's most of the time.
I want to thank you, Mark. I got freedom when you started talking about the contrarian concept. When I had my first really bad ROCD spiral, I was desperate and started searching for videos on Gods voice. A video came up of a Christian woman who was engaged to a man she met while they were in Bible college and she said everything was perfect, his family loved her and vice versa and she was so excited etc. And maybe a week before her wedding she had a pain in her gut and she was confused but ignored it and then it came up again a few days later and she said it was God telling her not to marry him and and that she was confused and then she talked to her fiancé and she said that he said he was being told the same. This created a fear of marriage in me because why would God wait until the last minute to tell them not to get married? Surely, they would have been open to hearing God say no if that was the case from the very beginning. Why wait until a relationship grows, he buys an engagement ring and you’re setting up a wedding just to tell them no. I have been dreading relationships and my wedding day (even to the point of being afraid of being left alone the night before my wedding in case God tried to tell me to call it off in a dream or even doing the same to my fiancé) but what you said freed me. You have no idea how many years is been carrying the fear (I’m feeling the fear in my gut as we speak 😂)
A home run of a talk..I really have been blessed by your content. Thank you!
1:08:11 this reminds me of a meme of someone asking God "Stop giving me your toughest battles" and Jesus is saying "I just told you to do your laundry"
Thank you so much for this. I’m just starting a spiritual formation class, and I am struggling with my own thoughts vs. the Holy Spirit vs. what the cessationists say about hearing God’s voice. This video is a much-needed blessing for giving myself a break.
Best to you on your class.
This was, in a word, liberating.
I wish you could time stamp so I can go through and get the main points. But thanks very much.
Your video are a great help in my journey I'm a new believer with OCD you are a great help thank you so much!
Welcome to the family, God bless you 🙂
hey mark! first! thank you because you're a huge help fro God's sons and daughters, God really uses you.
This brings so much freedom, Mark. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, experience and all the goofy fun!
Really have terrible dreams and daily anxiety and depression.
Sudden smells, scenes, songs or things cause me to think (irrationally) I am just looking back on this moment in time and it's judgement day and I messed up..
And wow Mark, hasn't God bought us through some very confusing, life-threatening times, where we thought we would've lost our minds!
And OMG 1:31:41- You answered my question!!!!🤭🤗thanks so much! What I meant though was if He gives us what we ask for and we are seeking the kingdom(Luke 11 :13), wouldn’t he allow us to hear his voice? Yes I’m using the word allow but I don’t know another way to phrase it 🤣🤣
But man thank you for answering and challenging my question! I really like how you broke it down! Everything you said is true💗 I’m in a better relationship with God now and overcame my eating disorder and understand sooo much more, and part of that was Him leading me to you💗
Thank you so much, Mark, for your ministry.
Thank you my brother mark.. just found this in my fed I needed This my mental health going down hill.. desperate to hear my God. What am I suppose to do 😓😴🙏🙏
Thank you Mark for this vid and your mission. I am just starting to view your vids and read your material. You are truly helping me. God bless you! 💜🙏
I am at 57 minutes and I love it. Ty so much Mark
Can totally resonate
This video is refreshing and a gold mine of useful information. I will have to rewatch this one. Thanks MDJ!
This stream is hilarious love it very helpful too🙂
I cracked up laughing when the voice overs came on
Mark seriously thank God I found your channel, very hard to find Christians that are honest and just say it as it is without the mask
This is so good! Thank you Mark
Thank you so much Mark 😊
Mark u r a source of peace
Wow this was actually so freeing and refreshing to listen to! Thanks Mark God bless
Thanks, Pastor Mark Dejesus. This helped me. Especially the part about God "Allowing" and also the part on desire.
OUTSTANDING!!!
So true Mark😅 Thanks very much 🙏🙏✴️
This is a blessing ! Keep helping us !
So asking God a yes/no question isn't ideal, because the instinctual thought is that God will say no. Also, arguing with a fear-based thought is ill-advisable, because reacting to it gives it power.
Therefore, by using two negatives and through the power of reverse psychology, I will ask God if I'm worthless to achieve peak confidence in His love for me 👍
(PS: this is a joke, have a great day)
Funny joke we gotta trick our brains here 😅
I love the joy you bring to these topics! ❤
Wait wait wait, your’re 47??? Dude you carry it very well!
Best thing I've read all day. :-)
This is good stuff
So wonderfully helpful. This is my biggest hurdle in my scrupulosity. Thank you.
The intro🤣love it lol
1:03:33 FACTS
Isaac on the altar 😂😂 That was a funny one...you so make me laugh. This episode has been mind-blowing for me. So much of what you said is stuff I feel like God has been trying to show me over the years. And some of what you said was new encouragement for me. Thanks brother.
Such a blessing to my Journey. Thank you so much for this video!
This is so interesting, this puts a new twist on what a friend told me, We are human beings and not human doings !
I’m sorry but. The wait on the Lord song and explanation really was such a comfort for me 🤣 I was thinking the other day, this song sounds sad and mournful!
Thank you Mark for answering my question, I liked your song haha, the song was "It ain't what you do" by Bananarama and Fun Boy Three lol😄
I wear hearing aids too. I get what you’re saying about if there is too much background noise or too many people talking at once. 🥰
yes its rough for sure.
This is so important! Knowing a little about the concrete logic of a Middle Eastern mindset, I think we lost something between the mindset the writers of the Bible had and our western/Greek mindset. We are too much in the ethereal. Thank you for reminding us to keep it real 😊 "the holy spirit is their to remind you of who you are in Christ" You were saved from sin, you are no longer a slave to sin, you are a new creation! This is so important! The devil is the Accuser in the Bible, the Holy Spirit is the Helper :) I recently read in the book "Learning To Pray" where a priest or someone was quoted describing our relationship with God like a father child relationship with an adult child than a minor child. In that way we have more freedom in what we do, we do not have to ask for permission for everything. We have been trained and instructed and our father trust us to know right from wrong but not every choice is a matter of right and wrong. Christ gave us FREEDOM. Who the Son sets free is free indeed! Indeed! ❤😊
Right He CONVICTS THE WORLD of sin, righteousness and judgment not the believer.
Is that a tiger???!!! I need confirmation that's a tiger😂
Oh boy so I was called to Daniel fast right which turned into don’t eat this don’t eat that, just eat fruits and raw veggies no seasoning nothing feeling condemned the whole time. I just finished a 3 day fast which at the end turned into a oh I need to go another day mind so. Condemn myself and now have to go on her. Chile and now I’m confused if I should finish the Daniel fast two. I was 150 something
when I started in march it’s may and I’m 136 and this is coming from someone that is usually 180-190. My family and others keeps asking if I’m good and i though it was spiritual warfare. I new to this journey but lord I can tell I have a lot of learning to do on what gods voice is and what it isn’t.
People with heightened consciences are one select group. There are people who put their things, their work and selfish interests ahead of their moral resposibilities to God and family. I know you have addressed this issue as well. I feel like God deals with those individuals in his own way. I've seen it.
It's terrible to live with a heightened conscience. When I was younger and until recently having a conscience that accused me of everything was tiring. I would often see others in Christ enjoy their freedom in Christ while I sat condemned about things everyone else enjoyed. I became so angry that I told God to please free me from a hyper sensitive conscience. It's not fun. Some people would consider it very spiritual, but in fact it was torment. I felt like I was constantly walking on egg shells before God. Everything, every thought, action, everything I would constantly be asking God forgiveness at every minute of my day. It wears you out and extremely frustrating. So many things to say...
@@abemontes2518how did you get out of it? Currently going through the same thing. It feels like I just want to give up… this is torment. I want to be free too.
@@lightyearssit takes self control to not respond or ask forgiveness for every thought and learning Gods character and to accept his love and to not b hard on yourself, talk about it honestly , Mark has videos abt Gods love and other things
@@lightyearss
I haven't gotten out of it. I struggle right now. I live under constant anxiety over liking videogames of all things. It's my favorite hobby since I was a kid. In my 20s it became an addiction so I got rid of them. It was painful, but I sold them. However, about 2 years ago I began playing games again and I have many games. I've been married for 17 years and have 2 kids just so you know. The Scripture about the rich young ruler comes up often in my mind, because I don't want to be lost because of something I really like. It's frustrating because I have no plans of selling my stuff this time around, but the anxiety persists. My wife tells me that if it's not games then I'll find something else to be frustrated about. The doubt of my salvation is something I've always questioned since I was like 15 years old (I'm 45). I sometimes feel angry or upset that maybe God wants me to give something up that I enjoy. Even though I exercise self control about these things ot bothers me to think that God may cast me out or lose my faith because of this.
@@antoniettavenegas4763
I would like for God to let me know I belong to Him, but every day I ask God for His mercy. Lord, please do NOT cast me out of your presence.
Yes, it doesn’t help at all that a lot of this confirmation stuff gets preached a LOT. Period.
Hey Mark! Do you have any advice for struggling to discern a calling to singleness? It’s something I’m struggled with for years and it is very fearful to me because I love marriage and romance, but I’m not sure if it’s what He wants (and a lot of experiences about it are hard to discern), and questioning it is hard because I am afraid that that would be out of idolizing marriage. Very specific but I would love thoughts about that if you felt led to do so! God bless
Thank you Mark for yesterday's live session. However, I did not totally agree with you when you said that it's not God's voice when you are told to stop or leave something when you've gone too far. You used the example of registering a company.
I believe God can stop your plans at any level to see your obedience. Otherwise he wouldn't let Abraham go all the way with Isaac's sacrifice before stopping him. God is God and we can't put him in a box and say and say what he can or can't do.
I think his example applies more to those who suffer from overthinking/inferiority complex, they tend to have a disposition to always believing that God. Is against anything they do
That story of Abraham is the first thing that came to my mind also. God waited until the very last moment and then stopped him.
this highly prevalent in Pentecostal and word of faith churches........words from God.... a lot of lives have ruined.
In terms of the second one our gut is literally triggered by anixety. So not I will not follow my gut it’s scared 😂😂as someone who grew up with anxiety I’m good.
You're a lifeline sometimes Mark.
Please pray for me. I am in an abusive marriage, and I'm afraid. I feel trapped and that the suicidal thoughts I have had for the last 3 years are just something to pray through. His behaviour got so bad I had to call the police as I feared for my life. He says he is a Christian but he does not show fruit. I love God more than life, and I want to know what he wants me to do, but I feel so much warfare in my marriage. My husband hits me, lies to me, denies his abuse, and makes me feel so horrible about myself.. yet I keep forgiving and I keep pressing in that God will do a miracle. He is getting worse. I don't want to disobey God if he wants me to remain in my situation :(
How are you?
Does/would God speak to us in one word statements? I don't know if that is biblical or not? One or two word statements that are repeated repetitively.
Thanks Mark, i understand it is relational, but James states that if we need wisdom we can "ask" God , but this is a bit of a catch 22, if you cannot "hear" Him for what ever reason, you never get the Wisdom
But how we learn to be relational and hear from God is developed by who speaks into our lives.
I'm lost
Grovel more😂
you need to stay together with your spouse
Why did you say that?
Not if there is abuse
To guilt one's self for not being where you feel God wants you to be is not a good thing, but let"s face it we all know when we're doing it right. Anyone with an ounce of decernment knows when they are walking in the spirit. I hate when I'm not and sadly it's most of the time.