Oh, he is running damage control like a mofo. I have always thought he was full of it and a creep... this whole ordeal just solidifies those earlier inklings.
As a singer and vocal instructor, I get angry at people who are not honest with their students. As we age, our voices get deeper, that is a fact of life. I was a soprano and am now a mezzo, and I do not pretend to my students that I can still hit that Eb6 anymore. I can show them how to do it, but I am honest about the aging voice. There is no shame in it, unless you try to hide it.
Lo unico que no envejece es la mente, pero tu cuerpo si lo mantienes en forma, puede llegar, a moverse como si tuvieras 20 años a los 80 y sino mira a Mick Jagger con 81 años y se mueve como en su mejor epoca.
Your smile cracked me up as he sang. What a hack job. Thanks for reviewing. I particularly loved the studio vocal with reverb and delay being pawned off as live. Like you said, it sounded completely different 😅
This was what really bothered me when I came across his videos and watched a few 😅 I never saw more because he came across as self absorbed, for lack of better word.
“Cringe-E”….yup. I love that you included that particular adjective in video bc -I asked my kid how to spell cringeeee , as in when texting, reply: “ You don’t.. lol… you’re too old.”
@@brianpark492 no, but it does make sense for this page to be loaded with liberals. Why won't Kamala lower prices now? She says she'll do it day 1? Why didn't Biden then? Why doesn't she do it now, then? Anyway. Let's not distract from the convo at hand...
He sings like a plastic mold of what he thinks a real hard rock singer sounds like. He could have been big with an 80's hair metal band. But he probably came off as too weird in the auditions so he never got a chance.
I also don't like it, but he is, technically, on point. Just like (his cousin, he claims), Sammy Hagar. He is "technically impressive", but I hate his sound. But that is just personal taste, to be fair.
i mean to play devil's advocate, i don't think it's so much that he can't do it per se, and more that he doesn't want people to hear any pitchiness. it's like not wanting people to see you with no shirt on at the beach lol
@@mathewhutchins2539 he really does have a wonky sound to him lol. like he does have a lot of ''ability'' vocal wise, lots of range n what not, but his tone is just not for me. he's like a studio singer you'd hire to cover like a bunch of 80's rock songs or something
When I first came across his channel..his self-absorbed style rankled me straight away…then I saw him in a segment of various reaction-videos….my negative opinion was fortified. I truly appreciate your contrarian but professional approach in calling out those who should be leading rather than deceiving by example…BRAVO Fil, continue to fight the good fight!
I'm kind of shocked to see Ken exposed like this. I had no particularly bad feeling about him until recently, when he was sh*tting on Steve Lukather's vocal on Rosanna and laughing a lot about it. Not cool.
Thank you for making this video. The fact that Ken doesn’t sing live in his videos has already been pointed out by others on UA-cam. And yet, he’s still here. The guy is not only a disgrace to all musicians who genuinely share their real knowledge, but some of his advice and techniques are also downright dangerous. I feel sorry for all the students who invest money in his courses
To be fair UA-cam sometimes does that 4 the wackiest reasons. My 🐇channel had 2 videos taken down due 2 graphics size. He could have done so deliberately..or UA-cam could've messes with it.
@@IMeMineWhoKen has a history of abusing the copyright claim system to strike videos with negative opinions about him! I wouldn’t be surprised if he did this here.
Ken is Ken's biggest fan. The dude's ego is so out of whack that I find it hilarious that you've exposed him to be a fraud. Thank you, Fil for another great video brother!! You actually have a really great singing voice. You should be the one giving lessons or doing live stream vocals.
Okay so he mixes it up and uses some help... theres no big expose here, cmon man....He's far from being milli vanilli ... lolz ... im sorry I have to add this.... theres alot of fuckin haters in this comment section. Im wondering if that is Fil's specialty... making others look bad so he can push his channel higher on the algorithm. Being asked to "Expose" a guy that has no effect on your life for no real reason (I mean he isn't taking money from orphanages is he.... or little old ladies) is just lazy. we're all adults and can choose to flip off the switch. Dog-pilling on this particular guy only makes you look like jealous bullies.
@MrMonkeyfarmer1 No, it doesn't. This is a guy who not only in a vocal coach. But also calls actual big name artists out for lip Syncing. And now he's doing it. People pay money to him for his vocal school. He should be more honest about what he's doing. Unless you're Ken.
Really? This Guy can’t sing compared to Ken. Ken has a voice like David Coverdale and just because of one video where he lip syncs to a vocal track which he laid down which by the way is extremely high does not make him a bad vocals coach.
@@Desmondbrowne666 Agree, and perhaps we need to start a “Credibility Rating Agency” for live musicians. If they lip sync, then it goes on their “Credibility Report”. Ken would have a lot of negative data on his “Credibility Report” and would have a low “Credibility Score.” 😂
I grew up in Australia as a teenager in the mid 70’s 8n Melbourne seeing AC/DC live so many times with the great Bon Scott. He was never pitch perfect live every time he sang, and matched with the amazing music, that was what we loved as teens seeing our first rock band. It wasn’t miming on a tv show, it was real and gritty and sometimes lyrics were forgotten etc. And it was the realness and rawness of the shows that we absolutely loved even though we had the records. We wanted the genuine sound of the band, and that’s what we got every single time and it was brilliant!!!!
@@SuperStrik9 I’ve only ever seen them once and they were great, but AC/DC were my first ever rock band that I saw live (and after the first concert we went to every single show of theirs) so they will always be special to me, as is Bon! Glad you like Rose Tattoo. Angry is a small man in real life but he seems so much bigger when he sings.
Wow, Fil, I heard and saw everything you pointed out! What an exceptional analysis video! I am learning to hear what you have been pointing out for many months! What a wonderful teacher you are, Fil! I love learning from you! 💜
@@danwarb1 I get that. But overkill IMO. And especially in context with his condescending style. It rubs me the wrong way. My gut didn't like it. And now that he's been exposed essentially IMO as a faker. My gut was not wrong.
@@TheGreekPoet i wouldn't say he's a faker. Sure, he lip-syncs in his "live" performances but we can't deny he has great vocals. He sometimes showcases his vocals in analysis videos or others that aren't his covers and he sounds really great. He has a pretty whiny, nasally voice in his higher register but well, he's a baritone trying to sound like a tenor so no wonder. I'm a baritone also and when I sing high, my larynx goes all the way up and I sound whiny too lol He definitely has chops but he's somehow scared of singing purely live. I don't know, maybe it's due to his age, maybe due to his perfectionism or something.
@@MultiKamil97 I understand your point. And sure, he has voice, can't deny that of course. But really, anyone who lip-syncs is by definition....a faker. Even Michael Jackson, who was obviously a better singer than Ken, lip-synced a lot "live". Just think, to pay to see someone perform only to find out you paid for a recorded performance. A vocal coach should be be setting a better example, IMO. Cheers 🙂
I have watched some of Ken Tamplins videos and he had the audacity to say Stevie Nicks vocals are nowhere near as good as they used to be because she hasn't looked after her voice like he has allegedly. At least she does sing live though. Hypocrite. Well done Fil.
I saw her in February. Not only did she sing live for 2 hours, but she brought out her longtime vocal coach to do Leather and Lace, and she still trains with him. For a vocal coach to critique other singers and not sing live on his on videos, not good at all!
8:34 wait.... he's HOLDING a guitar! Why not just sing it with the guitar and vocal LIVE? Why not just adopt Bill O'Reilly's motto? EFF IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE! I totally understand the pressure of trying to sing an entire song w/o any mistakes or voice crack or missed pitch but he's literally mimed MOST of his cover tunes, I would claim. Then after singing along to them (which is actually does so there is some effort put into it physically), he'll often go "WHEW! Boy, that was a real workout!" or some such. I mean... it's one thing to mime, another to KEEP PRETENDING after the song is over! Just.... wow.
As a long time fan of Ken and his band Shout... That's definitely the recording of "Living for My Lord" from his 1990 album "An Axe to Grind." I've been listening to it for over 30 years.
Yep. Listened to that CD a ton as a kid and I can't believe he tried to pass off that recording as being live. Wild. What's more amusing is what I guess was supposed to be a warm up to try and establish it as live. crazy.
@robertberman6692 I've been a rock fan since I was little. Been performing live since I was 18 (1992) and I'd never heard of him until UA-cam offered me one of his videos. His ego is off the scale. I've been friends with Glenn Hughes for a number of years: still killing it at 73 and very humble. Such a difference.
Thank you. What is disturbing is that he is lying. And he is a vocal coach and he is misstating what he is doing vocally to his students. I have never been much of a fan of Ken Tamplin, and this makes me even less a fan.
NO he isn't. We know exactly what's going on. This is one of his non-teaching videos and he often redoes the visuals to be dorky/ funny and over-the top!! Wake up guys, its like you drop into a party and wonder where are the BOOKS are. Its a party. Look at his other videos for context...and get lives of your own please. This is ridiculous.
@@moonagedaydream-ohyeah You kids are too sad but i get it..i guess i was the same but in the classroom :) Try learning to sing from his channel then come back in a month and you tell me.
I've also found his courses to be helpful, at least at the very beginning stages of a singing journey. What he's doing here _is_ a bit silly but his general advice is pretty useful and applicable.
Reminds me of that one episode of Hell's Kitchen with Gordon Ramsey. One of the contestants was a cooking/chef instructor and she didn't know Jack about cooking properly. Ramsey called her out.
This attitude is endemic through every industry. E.g., fitness coaches and influencers virtually all take some kind of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs). Then they go on about how it's all dedication and hard work-oh, and their various programs, supplements, and powders for sale, of course. Sure, they do put effort into their physiques, however it's impossible to get the same results without taking PEDs yourself. FWIW, I don't care as much about what they take; it's about the lack of honesty and integrity. That's the endemic part. And this is only one example. The times they are a changin'.
@spookym123 No, He's digitally altering his own real vocal and then using that prerecorded, digitally altered track and punching it in and out of his live performance. I think.
when ALL the mainstream media lies on a daily basis, its hard to expect the peanut gallery to behave in a dissimilar manner. we are in a post-truth society and who are you to question someone who identities as a vocal coach or professional singer?
Personally I believe most of UA-cam cover songs are tampered. Guitarists use multiple camera angles, to hide multiple takes in their solos. (Tons of failed attempts are cut out, they may play hard passages 50 times and combine cleanest takes. When the camera angle switches completely, nobody can tell if it's from the same take or not). They may even overdub bad notes, that didn't ring cleanly. Vocalists do miming. Drum covers = quantized hits. Not necessarily all of the hits (leave some small mistakes in to mask it) but would be super easy to tighten it up. Nobody would notice. Or fixing a few hits here and there, in otherwise perfect take. The temptation would be high, to earn that UA-cam $$$
3:50 that was absolutely heartwrenching seeing Fil's face go from "Oh, sick! He's really belting!" to the immediate realization, then disappointment. Watching a genuine smile falter from being let down will never not be heartbreaking :(
Anyone that says you don't know or can't read music is totally batty! I found your channel about a month ago. I am the "proverbial person who can't carry a tune in a bucket". I have learned so much from your videos. I have come to realize there's so much more to music, however, I still can't carry a tune in a bucket. Keep going - don't stop! 🎸
Fil, another excellent video. Had Ken not been doing a live stream on the 2nd song, it would have been a lot more believable. Ken is an embarrassment. Thanks for pointing it out. I know someone asked you to do it, but it's good to see it when it happens and it is definitely cringey. You're going to make us all vocal analysis experts if you're not careful. I'm up for that.
8:20 if you guys are interested, I have the exact figures on how many people reached out to him to ask him to live stream some of his original music. The number rhymes with hero.
Well, Bowie never was the greatest singer in the world but he has some iconic music. He's always worked with the voice he had and worked within his vocal capabilities very well (and never tried to fool people, unlike Mr. Tamplin here).
@@jasonbodden8816 I watched David Bowie do a tribute to Freddie Mercury with Annie Lennox and I thought he was f'n great and so did my husband and he's really not a fan of David Bowie. No one could say that was a bad performance.
The sad part is always that they are not honest. When you are a golf player, you practise all your life to hold your top performance. Otherwise, you will drop down in your rank. In a competition, you can not bring a copy of your best move and then tell your opponant you won the game because you once were a good player. In music, it seems widely accepted to bring old or manipulated performances and pretend to be the one doing it at this very moment. If that is what it means to do a live concert, then I could also listen to it at home. The music will sound the same.
@mikeb7379 my apologies. As a non-native speaker, I couldn't find the word for the term when you "beat the ball with the beater and it rolls into the hole". That would be the literal translation from German into English and probably even more confusing than "the move" where the ball rolls into the hole. So, I went for "the move". I hope it is still understandable.
Never cared for Ken. In every video I ever saw of him, I always got the impression that Ken Tamplin is Ken Tamplin's biggest fan. He may be talented, but he comes across as arrogant to me. Anyways, please don't attack me for stating my OPINION on Ken. Cheers!
honestly it would be cool if he was more honest. i feel like he may have something to show people to learn but ..........i feel he just to be famous and in this day and age thats not it. i sort of feel bad for him....hes trying to get what he didnt get before and he feels empty because of it
Fil, you're the man. There are loads of YT vids now blowing up all referencing W OF P expose on Tamplin. Can, open, worms. Wow. But it has to be exposed. I actually got suckered into buying his dang course a few years back. Thank God it was on special so I dint send hundreds. I feel sorry for anyone who bought his full price course. Keep fighting the good fight brother.
Whoa. Even with the speakers of my phones, it’s easy to notice the difference between his live voice, as recorded in the room, and something that looks like is coming out of a speaker in the room.
This is why I'll never understand people who give singers a hard time for not sounding as great as possible live. You have an official recorded version - and you have the live version. Enjoy both - stop wanting to hear live performances as good as a recording - they are supposed to be different!
Wow and Ken charges people to teach them to sing and he judges how other singers sing their songs. He seems to go after Rob Halford from Judas Priest alot, i think he's kind of jealous of Rob. He also goes on how he's a Christian, well being a Christian he shouldn't be lying about his vocal ability and saying he's all live when he's not. Voice teachers should not be lying to people , whether they are Christian or not lying is not a good look and gives him no right to judge anyone else's vocal abilities. If he can't do the high notes anymore then he should just say so. But since he has made a youtube career out of judging others he has to look perfect everytime, sad really
@@chrism2964 That could definitely be part of the reason because in one of his things on how to sing like Rob Halford he says how he did a version of singing Painkiller more in his chest voice because it seemed more manly, and harder to do ,which i'm not using an exact quote there but that was the jist of what he meant. Rob would do vocal gymnastics around him all day and Ken could never come close. Rob is 72 yrs old and he is still killin it and is so humble, while Ken thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and knows exactly what people need to do to keep their voices. Obviously not if he's voice tracking vocals on the high notes and pretending he's live, it's a sham and nobody should be going to that man for vocal advice. but honestly listen to a couple of Ken's videos on Rob you will see what i am saying, he's very judgy on others as well almost condescending towards them.
Thanks for this. I saw a comment about him under one of your recent videos and had a look at one or two of his cover videos. It seemed to me that he was miming. It's a shame really, as with his 'live' stream, his voice sounded pretty good to me on the 'yeah' thing he actually sung live at the beginning. It had much more life to it than the pre-recorded vocal.
I tried Ken’s voice course (I bought for the entire year) because he seemed like he knew what he was talking about and the results sounded great. Within a month of following the course how Ken recommends and not rushing through it, my natural 3 octave vocal range, huge lung capacity, and ability to project diminished and my voice started to get damaged. I had a classically trained opera singer as my vocal coach in college years before using Ken’s lessons and I had an extremely knowledgeable UF music major grad as my vocal coach years after I took Ken’s lessons and they were phenomenal. I had to disregard everything Ken said and break all the bad habits I picked up because of him or else my singing voice would’ve been permanently damaged. Disclaimer: I used his teaching videos he sells on his website and this disclosure of my negative experience with his product is a review. I’m glad not everyone had my experience but please do your research before buying vocal lessons materials or booking time with a vocal coach.
I just attended the “Outlaw Tour” at Pine Knob in Michigan. John Mellencamp, Bob Dylan, and Willie Nelson. These Icons were all absolutely 100% live, complete with mistakes and fumbles. And it was BY FAR the best concert I’ve EVER been too! Phil should definitely feature this tour in his analysis. It will restore one’s faith in live music!!!!
Another excellent job! Partial live vocals🤔 Years ago when watching concert videos of Led Zeppelin I was first disappointed at how the great Robert Plant would change some of the higher melody lines. But rethinking it figured hey, they do 3hr shows on tour - not reasonable to push the upper registers so hard so often. And still so musical! Thanks to Fil for hitting that mix of accuracy, honesty and graciousness.
What's concerning is that he was engaging in this behavior long before the widespread decline we see today. That makes him a master of 'do as I say, not as I do'. How can you expect to learn from someone like that? He's not going to prioritize your physical well-being when singing, because he doesn't use a real technique himself
I think I saw his Chaka Kahn cover song and it was impressive. He's basically a dumbass cheese-rocker from 1989. My guess the Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy makes money - I don't know anything else about him, really.
Tamplin is hugely cringey. He did some good stuff back in the 80s with Shout, but nothing overly amazing. He can certainly sing, but the way he acts is like that uncle who thinks he is cool and funny, when really all his nieces and nephews are laughing at him, not with him. Any miming he does just kinda ruins his rep as a vocal coach if he can't do live what he expects those learning from him to do.
I know us introverted folk can be the other extreme, but I do have to say this degree of extraversion and attention-grabbing shown in the clips is making me extremely uncomfortable. It‘s so incredibly too much even by normal standards, I hope. 😅 tl,dr: mad cringe!
Here's the very serious problem I see: Ken specifically markets himself as a coach who can teach safe rock-style high belting, and yet clearly he can't do it safely, or HE WOULD JUST DO IT. Professional metal singers like Dio or Eric Adams managed to sing night-after-night well into their late 60s (72 and still trucking in Eric Adams' case), so it is entirely possible to do this safely. But Ken is actively and knowingly deceiving his students into damaging their voices by copying techniques that he MUST KNOW are unsustainable! AND I suspect that is why he lip syncs to his own recordings from 4-5+ years ago, to mask the irreparable damage he's already done to his own voice.
Hi there , do you know any online vocal coaches who are genuinely good and on the level? I have been doing Ken’s vocal training for some time now, but now I’m a little concerned, having read your comment.
@wilsonbrownofficial2828 Sadly, it is very hard to find a verifiably good vocal coach online these days. The safest option is to find someone in your local area, because in-person you can always trust that what you're hearing is real. Even better if they have been teaching for many years, proving they can sustain their voices! I have no doubt Ken was genuinely able to sing those notes when he was younger, it doesn't sound like he was using autotune in the clips Fil analyzed here. BUT, anybody who tries to sing like that will discover it won't work for a whole career.
@@wilsonbrownofficial2828 I've watched content from a ton of vocal coaches. From an outsider's perspective, the few I've come across who: 1. Have demonstrated an extensive knowledge base derived from formal (often operatic), training - and - 2. Have demonstrated their personal skillset as singers ...are not that many. Off the top of my head,: - Elizabeth from The Charismatic Voice - literally a world-class, formally trained operatic soprano who reacts to genres she's not familiar with & seems to genuinely respect vocal skills that are different and less, "correct," than her training - The Fairy Voice Mother - I'm not certain about her educational background (I believe she has a Master's in voice, but not positive), but it's evident she has a lot of formal training & she actually sings live examples to demonstrate what she's explaining - Sam Johnson - Formally trained in musical theatre & performance, also sings to demonstrate occasionally - Tara Simon - mainly a Pop vocalist who's appeared on a well-known televised talent show - less technical in her explanations, but seems well-suited for beginners & intermediate-level aspiring vocalists There are several others I've watched who do seem to know what they're talking about, but the four I named (especially the first three), seem to have a firm grounding in human vocal anatomy along with a thorough understanding of classical technique & how to explain the two. Also, personality-wise, they're the most encouraging, kind-hearted & open-minded vocal coaches I've seen on YT. I've come across several who seem to know anatomy & healthy technique, but their personality seems better suited to a lecture hall than a UA-cam video aimed at people with varying levels of skill & education. There also seems to be a glut of, "vocal coaches," who seem more interested in pushing paid lessons than providing actual analysis. Personally, I really appreciate vocal teachers/coaches who evaluate what they see & hear from singers, rather than just repeating the same do's & don'ts that opera maestros have been insisting on for centuries. It makes more sense to me to talk about technique & anatomy in light of healthy/unhealthy rather than proper/improper. It may just be me, but when a top-tier classically trained opera singer can say - it's not how I was taught, but it works for the song & doesn't seem unhealthy or damaging to the voice - that's my sweet spot for good instruction. Plus, it helps that Elizabeth & The Fairy Voice Mother, in particular, regularly demonstrate that they're still moved & impressed by all sorts of vocals, from Screamo to beat boxing, they don't look down on other singers because of biases around genre or level of formal training.
@@timkaye I REALLY recommend checking out, "The Fairy Voice Mother," (Lolli Wren). If you picture a UK version of Elizabeth - quirky & dorky, enthusiastic & charming, scholarly & informative - you'll get it. She's similarly new to a number of genres & iconic songs, so there's also that same thrill of seeing someone with that skill set & love of music discover a song for the first time.
05:18 -but dont forget that there are some audio/video synchrone issues inside UA-cam its own. I upload something the synchrone is just not there, it s sliding
This is only thing I wish wings would mention at times, you can’t rely on video to prove a point as there may be sync issues. No doubt tamplin meant to do that to hide the lip synching though, he’s a fraud. The hair playing is to try hide the fake singing too.
Good analysis, you can definitely hear the difference between the live vocals and what’s being mimed. This is the first time I’ve heard of this vocal coach, but I really don’t like when people position themselves as educators/coaches/teachers and then are dishonest and deceitful!
I do .....and always have and will continue to do- as an Artist and a human, who never will let anyone tell me what to do lol..accepts the demand you make with pleasure.....a long time ago :) ..and YOU ARE 100% correct. have a wonderful week. 😊
except people don't like that. People are used to polished pop music and even slight variations from the correct pitch bother people now. Tested that extensively myself and I have friends from different cultures used to different music. Middle eastern friends won't react at all to notes a bit off, like they legit don't notice. But western people used to pop music will hear a note 10cents off and complain "oof that was off". And well...nobody can sing SO perfectly on pitch all the time to please western audience so...melodyne is just the standard. You HAVE to use it.
Hi Fil! That was an incredible analysis! I saw and heard what you showed and explained in this video. Why do singers mime or lip sync and not sing naturally? BTW, Congrats on getting 415k subscribers! Rock!
I'm a subscriber and I wanted to know if you've done any videos of Chris Isaac? Your integrity is incredibly powerful and honest. Keep showing us the truth. You're a rare gem of a talent.
On the Fortunate Son video someone called him out on him miming and he flat out denied it and called them names. He's now deleting every comment that questions him.
I am a paranormal debunker, and I love that you guys are finding out these scammers in debunking them from taking millions of millions of dollars keep up the good work thank you!
Thank you Fil...I have TRIED to watch this dude and the way he does his tongue anytime he "sings"...drives me INSANE!!!! I always knew he was sketchy!!!!
Glad I’m not the only one thinking that. I commented earlier that I just can’t watch him sing. I just can’t take him seriously and I PRAY no singers trying to learn their craft have picked up that HORRIBLE habit
Thank you. I thought I was the only one that thinks his tongue is icky. Add this video with the constant hair flip and I can't stand to watch this poser.
After watching one of KT videos I was walking around the house singing with my tongue sticking out brushing my invisible hair from my face, I was definitely cracking myself up 🤣
Dude! Im definitely NOT a professional. I really enjoy your videos! Thanks for sharing this. Because i did think about getting his videos to try. My name is Mike Keesee. You do great work!
LOL, Ken’s probably the first vocal coach I followed. His advice probably saved my vocal chords from destruction. As a newb to singing 7 years ago, I was amazed at his range, so I listened and took his advice where it applied. I have a limited background in recording ( 80s ) and noticed the obvious production on his vocals. I figured they were a blend of live and canned. Now I know I was close. That doesn’t take away from his lessons, but it does to his credibility. Ironically, I stopped following him because as proof of his teaching, he brings on guests to show their skills. These are always heavily produced tracks and typically belting singing females. That’s not what caused me to stop following him. When every singer seems to be over the top, female and on the tart side, it became kind of Harvey Weinstein’ish and cringe worthy.
I hear you. There’s something a bit creepy about someone in his age range focusing so much on featuring these young female singers, or is it just my imagination? LOL
I'm in the same boat kinda. I think I learned a lot from him when I started singing about 6 years ago and I really dug his vibe, but I found it weird how he started pushing that blonde chick on his channel.
Also women singing songs originally done by men is a copout. It always sounds dull. What makes the originals exciting is men singing at the edge of their range. When women sing the same songs in the same pitch it sounds boring.
7:10 I hear that the REAL singing is clearer and the pre-recorded is a wee bit duller. So many evidences that he's deceived his viewers. :( AND FOR MONEY! That is the worst part. He's' using all of these videos to CONVINCE people to buy his singing course. That's just an entirely different level than me using a pitch shifter to sing a cover song as a $0.00-income hobby on my YT channel and even telling people that's how I did most of those high-ranged tunes I did. Glad you are dissecting this even if it is 15 years later!
Thanks for exposing Tamplin, Fil. I was sucked into his videos a few years back and thought he was very good. I started to become suspicious after a while, and started making comments under his videos suggesting he may be miming. All my comments were quickly deleted. I remember another vocal coach accusing Tamplin of miming in the first video you showed, Tamplin then threatened him with legal action. I wouldn't have thought lying to his viewers and “students” is a very Christian thing to do. He’s apparently the cousin of Sammy Hagar, and probably has always been envious of Hagers success, and thought this was his way of making a name for himself. What a charlatan. Great work, Phil.
I remember that guy who used to call out Ken, but then Ken sued him for defamation, and his channel was shutdown. Turns out he was telling the truth all along.
HAHAHA He threatened legal action because he can prove he's not doing what this stupid video accuses him of doing. Watch, this idiot is next to be sued for defamation or slander or whichever applies. Hahahaa
I first knew years ago there was something very shady about him. He always has bad things to say about great singers. Because of that I researched him. This was years ago. I got an exact timeline of his career. So I asked him a few questions. He made up an entire history of where, how and what is musical background was. All bs. I called him on it,and he took the time to write me a reply so long rebuffing what I said. If it wasn't true he would have just not replied. I finally got him to admit a few lies. He's pathetic on so many levels . Great work! Finally someone who's qualified, exposed him
I´ve been around for somteimes. Tamplin quite a few years ago had a contorversy with Tristan Paredes, they made reaction videos about each others accusing each other for all sort of things. It ended with Tamplin sued Tristan, they come to some sort of agreement deleting all controversy videos.
You're brilliant. Thanks for this. On another note, just saw Christopher Cross band and definitely no vocal nonsense going on. His pitch isn't what it used to be but no one cared. Authentic is always best.
He was obviously miming because of the fade, but it’s 100% normal to compress/eq/verb and/or delay a live vocal. Do you think guitars are mimed when they have distortion? 🤔
@@machinehum2 - I think atomdecay's point was that the compression, reverb an EQ'ing suddenly kicked in as if by magic, not actually that it was wrong to make use of them!
Ken is hard-at-work deleting negative comments.
Oh, he is running damage control like a mofo. I have always thought he was full of it and a creep... this whole ordeal just solidifies those earlier inklings.
@eldesgraciado6690 yes I agree he does not lip synic
@@celiahallhall9225 Yes, he does.
@@celiahallhall9225he goes
Sounds like a full time job! 🙂
As a singer and vocal instructor, I get angry at people who are not honest with their students. As we age, our voices get deeper, that is a fact of life. I was a soprano and am now a mezzo, and I do not pretend to my students that I can still hit that Eb6 anymore. I can show them how to do it, but I am honest about the aging voice. There is no shame in it, unless you try to hide it.
From what i've understood, your voice type doesn't Change as you age, you simply mature into it
Lo unico que no envejece es la mente, pero tu cuerpo si lo mantienes en forma, puede llegar, a moverse como si tuvieras 20 años a los 80 y sino mira a Mick Jagger con 81 años y se mueve como en su mejor epoca.
Right ask Phil Anselmo. Dude said anything past 1995 he couldnt sing cemetery gates lol. Its just due to health, age ect.
@@alexshilljones1048 lol. Phil also had horrible technique
@@CelatraPlus all the drugs, booze and smoking
Your smile cracked me up as he sang. What a hack job. Thanks for reviewing. I particularly loved the studio vocal with reverb and delay being pawned off as live. Like you said, it sounded completely different 😅
Hack job of a wackjob.
Ken "Parrot Tongue" Tamplin. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
Thank you! I thought I was the only one that cringes over his tongue placement...😂
This was what really bothered me when I came across his videos and watched a few 😅 I never saw more because he came across as self absorbed, for lack of better word.
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Mate, you made my day!
Ken Tamplin needs to change his slogan to "Where The PROOF Is In The SYNCING" 😂
And “Livin’ For My Lord” needs to be “Lip Syncin’ For My Lord” 😊
😂😂😂
@@arnieburgertime why
@@celiahallhall9225 why what???
He has very good singing his voice can hit high notes
Thanks for your calm, professional, objective analysis of what is going on with these video clips.
I’m glad to see Milli Vanilli’s vocal coach landed on his feet.
At least they could perform!! 😂 🎉 ❤
Oh Lordy, that was hilariously funny!
You win at interneting today!
In all seriousness, Fab Morvan (one of the members of Milli Vanilli) *could* sing back then, and is a fantastic singer nowadays.
@@michaelalbert8474
Bruh! 🤣
"Where the proof is in the 'singing' " Yes Ken, yes it is...
Great video Fil.
Oh Fil darling, your inbox is going to continue to explode. 🤣
Thank you for continuing to keep folks accountable and transparent.
Fil, yours is far and away the most reliable, honest and well done channel of my subscriptions. Ever the gentleman, even when exposing fraudsters.
He really likes himself. Fil, you should've finished this one with his 'mugshot'!
@@geoffhipwell2198 cept Ken is the real deal...
“Cringe-E”….yup. I love that you included that particular adjective in video bc -I asked my kid how to spell cringeeee , as in when texting, reply: “ You don’t.. lol… you’re too old.”
Is this Trump disease?
@@brianpark492 no, but it does make sense for this page to be loaded with liberals. Why won't Kamala lower prices now? She says she'll do it day 1? Why didn't Biden then? Why doesn't she do it now, then? Anyway. Let's not distract from the convo at hand...
Making your voice fade out live, with your mouth closed is a great party trick. 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🎉🥳
😂😂😂
@@cindi1313 😅🤣😂😁😆😅
Ventriloquism Coach as a side hustle
@@jackwagner4010 😂 Maybe it’s part of the vocal lessons, no extra charge. Nah, who am I kidding, he’d definitely charge for it! 😁
Ken Tamplin's voice has always grated on my last nerve. Another fascinating analysis, Fil!
... and the look of satisfaction on his face as he butchers yet another classic! 😂
He is simply shouting with no finesse, but then using a few techniques to try and cover up that he’s simply shouting. It doesn’t make a singer.
Agee. The intense nasality is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
He sings like a plastic mold of what he thinks a real hard rock singer sounds like. He could have been big with an 80's hair metal band. But he probably came off as too weird in the auditions so he never got a chance.
I also don't like it, but he is, technically, on point. Just like (his cousin, he claims), Sammy Hagar. He is "technically impressive", but I hate his sound.
But that is just personal taste, to be fair.
Omg, this seems like such a silly career move. Ken has actually said don’t trust a vocal coach who can’t do it live, and yet here we are
"The proof is in the singing" has suddenly become an ironic slogan.
Popland you're such a pop culture staple between your videos and the fact you're under every pop culture video serving good takes everytime. ❤
i mean to play devil's advocate, i don't think it's so much that he can't do it per se, and more that he doesn't want people to hear any pitchiness. it's like not wanting people to see you with no shirt on at the beach lol
Ken’s singing has always sounded horrendous
@@mathewhutchins2539 he really does have a wonky sound to him lol. like he does have a lot of ''ability'' vocal wise, lots of range n what not, but his tone is just not for me. he's like a studio singer you'd hire to cover like a bunch of 80's rock songs or something
When I first came across his channel..his self-absorbed style rankled me straight away…then I saw him in a segment of various reaction-videos….my negative opinion was fortified. I truly appreciate your contrarian but professional approach in calling out those who should be leading rather than deceiving by example…BRAVO Fil, continue to fight the good fight!
Same for me. He was never very impressed by some of my favorite songs. As if that’s super easy for him lol
He is an arrogant guy for sure.
@@bowldawg1But yet his own material is so difficult that he needs to lip sync the high parts to pull it off in front of an audience. 😊
I'm kind of shocked to see Ken exposed like this. I had no particularly bad feeling about him until recently, when he was sh*tting on Steve Lukather's vocal on Rosanna and laughing a lot about it. Not cool.
@@ericpircher that’s an awesome vocal and that song always brings back the best memories.
Thank you for making this video. The fact that Ken doesn’t sing live in his videos has already been pointed out by others on UA-cam. And yet, he’s still here. The guy is not only a disgrace to all musicians who genuinely share their real knowledge, but some of his advice and techniques are also downright dangerous. I feel sorry for all the students who invest money in his courses
The wildest part is the second I made a video calling him out on lip syncing he had the entire footage deleted from UA-cam ☠️
Preach brother!
To be fair UA-cam sometimes does that 4 the wackiest reasons. My 🐇channel had 2 videos taken down due 2 graphics size. He could have done so deliberately..or UA-cam could've messes with it.
@@IMeMineWhoKen has a history of abusing the copyright claim system to strike videos with negative opinions about him! I wouldn’t be surprised if he did this here.
@@highnotesarecool Oh yeah I see Your Ken T videos
@@pungus8498 Hey Pungus! 🙋♂
Ken is Ken's biggest fan. The dude's ego is so out of whack that I find it hilarious that you've exposed him to be a fraud. Thank you, Fil for another great video brother!! You actually have a really great singing voice. You should be the one giving lessons or doing live stream vocals.
@@bryanrulz3904 Seriously, right!!
Okay so he mixes it up and uses some help... theres no big expose here, cmon man....He's far from being milli vanilli ... lolz ... im sorry I have to add this.... theres alot of fuckin haters in this comment section. Im wondering if that is Fil's specialty... making others look bad so he can push his channel higher on the algorithm. Being asked to "Expose" a guy that has no effect on your life for no real reason (I mean he isn't taking money from orphanages is he.... or little old ladies) is just lazy. we're all adults and can choose to flip off the switch. Dog-pilling on this particular guy only makes you look like jealous bullies.
@MrMonkeyfarmer1 No, it doesn't. This is a guy who not only in a vocal coach. But also calls actual big name artists out for lip Syncing. And now he's doing it. People pay money to him for his vocal school. He should be more honest about what he's doing. Unless you're Ken.
Have you ever noticed a theme with the ‘students’ Ken has performing…..🤔
Really? This Guy can’t sing compared to Ken. Ken has a voice like David Coverdale and just because of one video where he lip syncs to a vocal track which he laid down which by the way is extremely high does not make him a bad vocals coach.
Im on my 11th WOP video tonight, I can't believe I've slept on this channel all this time. Great vids Fil!
Your work in this area is a valuable service to live music
definitely
@@Desmondbrowne666 Agree, and perhaps we need to start a “Credibility Rating Agency” for live musicians. If they lip sync, then it goes on their “Credibility Report”. Ken would have a lot of negative data on his “Credibility Report” and would have a low “Credibility Score.” 😂
I grew up in Australia as a teenager in the mid 70’s 8n Melbourne seeing AC/DC live so many times with the great Bon Scott. He was never pitch perfect live every time he sang, and matched with the amazing music, that was what we loved as teens seeing our first rock band. It wasn’t miming on a tv show, it was real and gritty and sometimes lyrics were forgotten etc. And it was the realness and rawness of the shows that we absolutely loved even though we had the records. We wanted the genuine sound of the band, and that’s what we got every single time and it was brilliant!!!!
I'm Canadian but that said Rose Tattoo are another great Aussie band. Angry Anderson is a legend still going strong to this day.
@@SuperStrik9 I’ve only ever seen them once and they were great, but AC/DC were my first ever rock band that I saw live (and after the first concert we went to every single show of theirs) so they will always be special to me, as is Bon! Glad you like Rose Tattoo. Angry is a small man in real life but he seems so much bigger when he sings.
Today, thousands film every Metallica show and criticize on UA-cam if a note is played wrong.
I can't believe he mimed an electric guitar using an acoustic one
Haha
He is that good!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Sheer arrogance on an epic level. He must think we are all mentally challenged.
Wow, Fil, I heard and saw everything you pointed out! What an exceptional analysis video! I am learning to hear what you have been pointing out for many months! What a wonderful teacher you are, Fil! I love learning from you! 💜
He really is The Best!
@@debbier938 Yes, Fil is amazing!
Me, too! 🤘
Glad you called this guy out. I was a subscriber of his channel, but got sick of his very pretentious style and his constant selling.
@@danwarb1 I get that. But overkill IMO. And especially in context with his condescending style. It rubs me the wrong way. My gut didn't like it.
And now that he's been exposed essentially IMO as a faker. My gut was not wrong.
@@danwarb1his channel should not have a point. It should teach vocal. Duh!
@@TheGreekPoet i wouldn't say he's a faker. Sure, he lip-syncs in his "live" performances but we can't deny he has great vocals. He sometimes showcases his vocals in analysis videos or others that aren't his covers and he sounds really great. He has a pretty whiny, nasally voice in his higher register but well, he's a baritone trying to sound like a tenor so no wonder. I'm a baritone also and when I sing high, my larynx goes all the way up and I sound whiny too lol He definitely has chops but he's somehow scared of singing purely live. I don't know, maybe it's due to his age, maybe due to his perfectionism or something.
@@MultiKamil97 I understand your point. And sure, he has voice, can't deny that of course. But really, anyone who lip-syncs is by definition....a faker. Even Michael Jackson, who was obviously a better singer than Ken, lip-synced a lot "live". Just think, to pay to see someone perform only to find out you paid for a recorded performance. A vocal coach should be be setting a better example, IMO. Cheers 🙂
@@TheGreekPoet I can agree with this :)
Thx so much for calling out this. Thank you for your expertise !!! Keep up the good work!!
I have watched some of Ken Tamplins videos and he had the audacity to say Stevie Nicks vocals are nowhere near as good as they used to be because she hasn't looked after her voice like he has allegedly. At least she does sing live though. Hypocrite. Well done Fil.
I guess it’s easy to save your voice if you’re lip syncing! 😅
What a fraud.
He also never forgets to mention he can sing for hours without any fatigue.
He said the same thing about Lara Fabian.
I saw her in February. Not only did she sing live for 2 hours, but she brought out her longtime vocal coach to do Leather and Lace, and she still trains with him. For a vocal coach to critique other singers and not sing live on his on videos, not good at all!
Stevie Nicks sounds old now as opposed to sounding young when she was younger.
Yes can definitely hear the difference
That was brutal Phil. You produced his Minority Report
8:34 wait.... he's HOLDING a guitar! Why not just sing it with the guitar and vocal LIVE? Why not just adopt Bill O'Reilly's motto? EFF IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE! I totally understand the pressure of trying to sing an entire song w/o any mistakes or voice crack or missed pitch but he's literally mimed MOST of his cover tunes, I would claim. Then after singing along to them (which is actually does so there is some effort put into it physically), he'll often go "WHEW! Boy, that was a real workout!" or some such. I mean... it's one thing to mime, another to KEEP PRETENDING after the song is over! Just.... wow.
Good to see you, TruthSurge!
@@rocknrollresignation93 ty
Wow even TruthSurge came out of retirement to comment on this!
I love critical examinations of anything, it’s keeps everything honest and transparent
You have to remember, first and foremost, UA-cam and other social media are advertising platforms first, anything else second.
As a long time fan of Ken and his band Shout... That's definitely the recording of "Living for My Lord" from his 1990 album "An Axe to Grind." I've been listening to it for over 30 years.
@@robertberman6692 I've got the album no sales
Yep. Listened to that CD a ton as a kid and I can't believe he tried to pass off that recording as being live. Wild. What's more amusing is what I guess was supposed to be a warm up to try and establish it as live. crazy.
Someone owns one of his albums??
@@johnnyboy2k quite a few! He made solid hair metal in the late 80s and early 90s. Not an excuse for miming today, obviously.
@robertberman6692 I've been a rock fan since I was little. Been performing live since I was 18 (1992) and I'd never heard of him until UA-cam offered me one of his videos. His ego is off the scale.
I've been friends with Glenn Hughes for a number of years: still killing it at 73 and very humble. Such a difference.
Thank you. What is disturbing is that he is lying. And he is a vocal coach and he is misstating what he is doing vocally to his students. I have never been much of a fan of Ken Tamplin, and this makes me even less a fan.
NO he isn't. We know exactly what's going on. This is one of his non-teaching videos and he often redoes the visuals to be dorky/ funny and over-the top!! Wake up guys, its like you drop into a party and wonder where are the BOOKS are. Its a party. Look at his other videos for context...and get lives of your own please. This is ridiculous.
Correct it wouldn't be so egregious if he wasn't a vocal COACH. It's pure fraud.
@@stoneneils What up, Ken!
@@moonagedaydream-ohyeah You kids are too sad but i get it..i guess i was the same but in the classroom :) Try learning to sing from his channel then come back in a month and you tell me.
I've also found his courses to be helpful, at least at the very beginning stages of a singing journey. What he's doing here _is_ a bit silly but his general advice is pretty useful and applicable.
The part that really bothers me about this is that he's not simply a performer, but a paid "vocal coach" faking his own vocals...
Reminds me of that one episode of Hell's Kitchen with Gordon Ramsey. One of the contestants was a cooking/chef instructor and she didn't know Jack about cooking properly. Ramsey called her out.
Maybe that is what he teaches as a vocal coach.
So he's faking his own real vocals?
This attitude is endemic through every industry. E.g., fitness coaches and influencers virtually all take some kind of performance enhancing drugs (PEDs). Then they go on about how it's all dedication and hard work-oh, and their various programs, supplements, and powders for sale, of course. Sure, they do put effort into their physiques, however it's impossible to get the same results without taking PEDs yourself.
FWIW, I don't care as much about what they take; it's about the lack of honesty and integrity. That's the endemic part. And this is only one example.
The times they are a changin'.
@spookym123 No, He's digitally altering his own real vocal and then using that prerecorded, digitally altered track and punching it in and out of his live performance. I think.
Thanks!
Thank you!
@@wingsofpegasus thank you ！
Honesty is very rare in our world ..........
What?
Thank you. Fact is the comment you make. This is why OUR world and US are suffering. However Honesty is a Force of Nature...hang in there okay.
when ALL the mainstream media lies on a daily basis, its hard to expect the peanut gallery to behave in a dissimilar manner.
we are in a post-truth society and who are you to question someone who identities as a vocal coach or professional singer?
It's such a lonely word
Personally I believe most of UA-cam cover songs are tampered. Guitarists use multiple camera angles, to hide multiple takes in their solos. (Tons of failed attempts are cut out, they may play hard passages 50 times and combine cleanest takes. When the camera angle switches completely, nobody can tell if it's from the same take or not). They may even overdub bad notes, that didn't ring cleanly. Vocalists do miming. Drum covers = quantized hits. Not necessarily all of the hits (leave some small mistakes in to mask it) but would be super easy to tighten it up. Nobody would notice. Or fixing a few hits here and there, in otherwise perfect take. The temptation would be high, to earn that UA-cam $$$
3:50 that was absolutely heartwrenching seeing Fil's face go from "Oh, sick! He's really belting!" to the immediate realization, then disappointment. Watching a genuine smile falter from being let down will never not be heartbreaking :(
whoa... it's like I was watching those badly dubbed kung fu martial art films from the 70s
@@atomdecay - And then also his completely emotionless look during that guy's 'performance'!
You do know that he definitely saw the footage multiple times already before filming the video, right? :)
Came here for this comment 😢 poor Fil 😭 lol
@@DrMcFly28I don't think so, that was a look of a real let down lol
This guy is the Steven Seagal of vocal coaches.
Is he also a chef on a US Navy battleship? 😂
Anyone that says you don't know or can't read music is totally batty! I found your channel about a month ago. I am the "proverbial person who can't carry a tune in a bucket". I have learned so much from your videos. I have come to realize there's so much more to music, however, I still can't carry a tune in a bucket. Keep going - don't stop! 🎸
Fil, another excellent video. Had Ken not been doing a live stream on the 2nd song, it would have been a lot more believable. Ken is an embarrassment. Thanks for pointing it out. I know someone asked you to do it, but it's good to see it when it happens and it is definitely cringey. You're going to make us all vocal analysis experts if you're not careful. I'm up for that.
I learn something new with every one of your videos. Thank you. I loved seeing Ken’s mouth close as his voice continued to fade out! Priceless.
Emphasis on "Kens mouth closed" lmao 😅😅. But it was hilarious. Ol Ken doesn't realize its a new day..its not 1988 anymore...everything is fact checked
I’ve learned so much from this channel. Thanks, Fil
You can clearly hear the reverb and digital delay difference from his "live" portions... 🤘
And he had the balls to criticise mr Rob Halford
Nobody is allowed to criticise Rob Halford!
@@bjornalm9950Period!
@@bjornalm9950 Yes, there is one .... Rob Halford
100% agree
@@rockytekkel406 that's like god heating a burrito so got he can't eat it: a singularity
8:20 if you guys are interested, I have the exact figures on how many people reached out to him to ask him to live stream some of his original music. The number rhymes with hero.
Weirdo ? Schitzo ? Nero......oh no I have Zero chance just guessing. lol
Ouch!
Doesn't even sound original. It's Over the Mountain.
I thought it was Highway to Hell, and he was making a joke.
@@richardclark. not over the mountain, it sounds quite similar to flying high again. I assume thats the song you meant though.
I'm relieved that I never heard of him. I keep thinking I won't be shocked by what I hear on your channel Fil, but I always am.
I've waited my whole life to find someone else who notices these things and can hear them when it seems others can't. 😂❤
Ken was very dismissive about Bowie's vocal ability. That's when I knew he was full of BS.
How was he dismissive about David Bowie?
I am curious too how or in what videos ? I don't follow Ken so idk
Well, Bowie never was the greatest singer in the world but he has some iconic music. He's always worked with the voice he had and worked within his vocal capabilities very well (and never tried to fool people, unlike Mr. Tamplin here).
I watched him attempt to critique a SoHyang performance and instantly knew he didn't have a clue what he was talking about
@@jasonbodden8816 I watched David Bowie do a tribute to Freddie Mercury with Annie Lennox and I thought he was f'n great and so did my husband and he's really not a fan of David Bowie. No one could say that was a bad performance.
Keep doing these videos!!! We love them.....from Brazil
Só nas fofoca dos vocalista aí, né irmão 😂
Thank you for exposing someone who's not honest with his audience, never gonna search on him again, ever. The proof is in the scamming 😅
The sad part is always that they are not honest. When you are a golf player, you practise all your life to hold your top performance. Otherwise, you will drop down in your rank. In a competition, you can not bring a copy of your best move and then tell your opponant you won the game because you once were a good player. In music, it seems widely accepted to bring old or manipulated performances and pretend to be the one doing it at this very moment. If that is what it means to do a live concert, then I could also listen to it at home. The music will sound the same.
Golf? Sounded more like chess.
@mikeb7379 my apologies. As a non-native speaker, I couldn't find the word for the term when you "beat the ball with the beater and it rolls into the hole". That would be the literal translation from German into English and probably even more confusing than "the move" where the ball rolls into the hole. So, I went for "the move". I hope it is still understandable.
@@jenniferneumann4484"hit the ball with the club" for the translation ;) Swing would be a good choice for move.
Tschüsß
Well, we all know of someone -- who owns many golf courses -- who cheats at golf.
@@johnbriggs3916 If there's a god above, we will never have to hear the person you suggest sing.
"...and I would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for that meddling Fil!"
Glad I didn't have any food or drink in my mouth, otherwise it would have been all over the screen, with your comment.
😂😂😂
Never cared for Ken. In every video I ever saw of him, I always got the impression that Ken Tamplin is Ken Tamplin's biggest fan. He may be talented, but he comes across as arrogant to me. Anyways, please don't attack me for stating my OPINION on Ken. Cheers!
You are right . He’s like to criticize famous singers like Freddie Mercury and Aha . He’s obnoxious
@@20891 He actually criticized AL GREEN! That takes some chutzpah.
Very true. He also criticized Rob Halford, of all people... I mean, come on... 😒
I always thought he was gay, he sounds like a gay dude
honestly it would be cool if he was more honest. i feel like he may have something to show people to learn but ..........i feel he just to be famous and in this day and age thats not it. i sort of feel bad for him....hes trying to get what he didnt get before and he feels empty because of it
At this point we are going to need to get Fil 24hr security.
The sad thing is Ken can sing, really sing.
And possibly a good lawyer, the music moguls have too many. Keep on telling the truth Fil 👍
Lol!
Yea im a bit disappointed to be honest.. i know ken is legit tho
You mean Fil Fakery Virus Defender 2.0?
@@swedensbestrapper I mean sorta legit. He can't hit the high notes he could earlier in his career. So he shouldn't lip sync
All this miming and auto tuning makes me feel so good about my real LIVE streams.
Thanks Fil, it's very encouraging!🍻
Fil, you're the man. There are loads of YT vids now blowing up all referencing W OF P expose on Tamplin. Can, open, worms. Wow. But it has to be exposed. I actually got suckered into buying his dang course a few years back. Thank God it was on special so I dint send hundreds. I feel sorry for anyone who bought his full price course. Keep fighting the good fight brother.
Whoa. Even with the speakers of my phones, it’s easy to notice the difference between his live voice, as recorded in the room, and something that looks like is coming out of a speaker in the room.
Fil you are my hero, never realized this!
This is why I'll never understand people who give singers a hard time for not sounding as great as possible live. You have an official recorded version - and you have the live version. Enjoy both - stop wanting to hear live performances as good as a recording - they are supposed to be different!
I could hear it right away, what voice came from his direction, his mouth and what voice came from off screen. It was clear as day to me.
Wow and Ken charges people to teach them to sing and he judges how other singers sing their songs. He seems to go after Rob Halford from Judas Priest alot, i think he's kind of jealous of Rob. He also goes on how he's a Christian, well being a Christian he shouldn't be lying about his vocal ability and saying he's all live when he's not. Voice teachers should not be lying to people , whether they are Christian or not lying is not a good look and gives him no right to judge anyone else's vocal abilities. If he can't do the high notes anymore then he should just say so. But since he has made a youtube career out of judging others he has to look perfect everytime, sad really
Well Rob is gay, so I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
@@chrism2964 I wouldn't place any bets on which team Ken plays for either.
@@chrism2964 That could definitely be part of the reason because in one of his things on how to sing like Rob Halford he says how he did a version of singing Painkiller more in his chest voice because it seemed more manly, and harder to do ,which i'm not using an exact quote there but that was the jist of what he meant. Rob would do vocal gymnastics around him all day and Ken could never come close. Rob is 72 yrs old and he is still killin it and is so humble, while Ken thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread and knows exactly what people need to do to keep their voices. Obviously not if he's voice tracking vocals on the high notes and pretending he's live, it's a sham and nobody should be going to that man for vocal advice. but honestly listen to a couple of Ken's videos on Rob you will see what i am saying, he's very judgy on others as well almost condescending towards them.
And he does say.
"The proof is in the singing." So do it then.
@@bobbycollins6783 Yes he does say that on every video, good catch.
He just released a video saying the media is manipulating this lmao. What a clown.
He is a clown. He likes to criticize famous singers
Fil about to become the hot topic in yet another subreddit this weekend.
Thanks for this. I saw a comment about him under one of your recent videos and had a look at one or two of his cover videos. It seemed to me that he was miming.
It's a shame really, as with his 'live' stream, his voice sounded pretty good to me on the 'yeah' thing he actually sung live at the beginning. It had much more life to it than the pre-recorded vocal.
I tried Ken’s voice course (I bought for the entire year) because he seemed like he knew what he was talking about and the results sounded great. Within a month of following the course how Ken recommends and not rushing through it, my natural 3 octave vocal range, huge lung capacity, and ability to project diminished and my voice started to get damaged.
I had a classically trained opera singer as my vocal coach in college years before using Ken’s lessons and I had an extremely knowledgeable UF music major grad as my vocal coach years after I took Ken’s lessons and they were phenomenal. I had to disregard everything Ken said and break all the bad habits I picked up because of him or else my singing voice would’ve been permanently damaged.
Disclaimer: I used his teaching videos he sells on his website and this disclosure of my negative experience with his product is a review. I’m glad not everyone had my experience but please do your research before buying vocal lessons materials or booking time with a vocal coach.
I just attended the “Outlaw Tour” at Pine Knob in Michigan. John Mellencamp, Bob Dylan, and Willie Nelson. These Icons were all absolutely 100% live, complete with mistakes and fumbles. And it was BY FAR the best concert I’ve EVER been too! Phil should definitely feature this tour in his analysis. It will restore one’s faith in live music!!!!
And the truth will set you free!!! Love your show! 👍🙏🙏
On track Fil. Truth rules!
Another excellent job!
Partial live vocals🤔 Years ago when watching concert videos of Led Zeppelin I was first disappointed at how the great Robert Plant would change some of the higher melody lines. But rethinking it figured hey, they do 3hr shows on tour - not reasonable to push the upper registers so hard so often. And still so musical!
Thanks to Fil for hitting that mix of accuracy, honesty and graciousness.
And at least Robert SANG each line and didn't lip sync them.
What's concerning is that he was engaging in this behavior long before the widespread decline we see today. That makes him a master of 'do as I say, not as I do'. How can you expect to learn from someone like that? He's not going to prioritize your physical well-being when singing, because he doesn't use a real technique himself
I think I saw his Chaka Kahn cover song and it was impressive. He's basically a dumbass cheese-rocker from 1989. My guess the Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy makes money - I don't know anything else about him, really.
Ken's always seemed eccentric. Your fadeout explanation tells the tale.
Tamplin is hugely cringey. He did some good stuff back in the 80s with Shout, but nothing overly amazing. He can certainly sing, but the way he acts is like that uncle who thinks he is cool and funny, when really all his nieces and nephews are laughing at him, not with him.
Any miming he does just kinda ruins his rep as a vocal coach if he can't do live what he expects those learning from him to do.
I know us introverted folk can be the other extreme, but I do have to say this degree of extraversion and attention-grabbing shown in the clips is making me extremely uncomfortable. It‘s so incredibly too much even by normal standards, I hope. 😅
tl,dr: mad cringe!
Well, you absolutely nailed him. Amazing analysis, as always.
I had the same suspicion but never had the objectivity to prove it, thank you Phil!
Here's the very serious problem I see: Ken specifically markets himself as a coach who can teach safe rock-style high belting, and yet clearly he can't do it safely, or HE WOULD JUST DO IT.
Professional metal singers like Dio or Eric Adams managed to sing night-after-night well into their late 60s (72 and still trucking in Eric Adams' case), so it is entirely possible to do this safely.
But Ken is actively and knowingly deceiving his students into damaging their voices by copying techniques that he MUST KNOW are unsustainable!
AND I suspect that is why he lip syncs to his own recordings from 4-5+ years ago, to mask the irreparable damage he's already done to his own voice.
Hi there , do you know any online vocal coaches who are genuinely good and on the level? I have been doing Ken’s vocal training for some time now, but now I’m a little concerned, having read your comment.
@wilsonbrownofficial2828 Sadly, it is very hard to find a verifiably good vocal coach online these days. The safest option is to find someone in your local area, because in-person you can always trust that what you're hearing is real.
Even better if they have been teaching for many years, proving they can sustain their voices! I have no doubt Ken was genuinely able to sing those notes when he was younger, it doesn't sound like he was using autotune in the clips Fil analyzed here. BUT, anybody who tries to sing like that will discover it won't work for a whole career.
@@wilsonbrownofficial2828 I've watched content from a ton of vocal coaches. From an outsider's perspective, the few I've come across who:
1. Have demonstrated an extensive knowledge base derived from formal (often operatic), training - and -
2. Have demonstrated their personal skillset as singers
...are not that many.
Off the top of my head,:
- Elizabeth from The Charismatic Voice - literally a world-class, formally trained operatic soprano who reacts to genres she's not familiar with & seems to genuinely respect vocal skills that are different and less, "correct," than her training
- The Fairy Voice Mother - I'm not certain about her educational background (I believe she has a Master's in voice, but not positive), but it's evident she has a lot of formal training & she actually sings live examples to demonstrate what she's explaining
- Sam Johnson - Formally trained in musical theatre & performance, also sings to demonstrate occasionally
- Tara Simon - mainly a Pop vocalist who's appeared on a well-known televised talent show - less technical in her explanations, but seems well-suited for beginners & intermediate-level aspiring vocalists
There are several others I've watched who do seem to know what they're talking about, but the four I named (especially the first three), seem to have a firm grounding in human vocal anatomy along with a thorough understanding of classical technique & how to explain the two. Also, personality-wise, they're the most encouraging, kind-hearted & open-minded vocal coaches I've seen on YT. I've come across several who seem to know anatomy & healthy technique, but their personality seems better suited to a lecture hall than a UA-cam video aimed at people with varying levels of skill & education. There also seems to be a glut of, "vocal coaches," who seem more interested in pushing paid lessons than providing actual analysis.
Personally, I really appreciate vocal teachers/coaches who evaluate what they see & hear from singers, rather than just repeating the same do's & don'ts that opera maestros have been insisting on for centuries. It makes more sense to me to talk about technique & anatomy in light of healthy/unhealthy rather than proper/improper. It may just be me, but when a top-tier classically trained opera singer can say - it's not how I was taught, but it works for the song & doesn't seem unhealthy or damaging to the voice - that's my sweet spot for good instruction. Plus, it helps that Elizabeth & The Fairy Voice Mother, in particular, regularly demonstrate that they're still moved & impressed by all sorts of vocals, from Screamo to beat boxing, they don't look down on other singers because of biases around genre or level of formal training.
@@goreyfantod5213 I don't know the others, but completely agree about Elizabeth.
@@timkaye I REALLY recommend checking out, "The Fairy Voice Mother," (Lolli Wren).
If you picture a UK version of Elizabeth - quirky & dorky, enthusiastic & charming, scholarly & informative - you'll get it. She's similarly new to a number of genres & iconic songs, so there's also that same thrill of seeing someone with that skill set & love of music discover a song for the first time.
Performers are going to start putting a label on their videos: "Available to everyone but Fil".
Underrated.
Except The Who, they’re not doing this garbage
05:18 -but dont forget that there are some audio/video synchrone issues inside UA-cam its own. I upload something the synchrone is just not there, it s sliding
This is only thing I wish wings would mention at times, you can’t rely on video to prove a point as there may be sync issues. No doubt tamplin meant to do that to hide the lip synching though, he’s a fraud. The hair playing is to try hide the fake singing too.
@heresjohnny999 oh , The hair tricks, right!
Good analysis, you can definitely hear the difference between the live vocals and what’s being mimed. This is the first time I’ve heard of this vocal coach, but I really don’t like when people position themselves as educators/coaches/teachers and then are dishonest and deceitful!
Yes money does this....
Artists: please just sing and let your audience hear your talent. No need to mime, lip sync, or patch together an artificial performance.
I do .....and always have and will continue to do- as an Artist and a human, who never will let anyone tell me what to do lol..accepts the demand you make with pleasure.....a long time ago :) ..and YOU ARE 100% correct. have a wonderful week. 😊
Too late for this to change. When at a concert or watching a video we can have no idea who is singing and who isn't.
except people don't like that. People are used to polished pop music and even slight variations from the correct pitch bother people now. Tested that extensively myself and I have friends from different cultures used to different music. Middle eastern friends won't react at all to notes a bit off, like they legit don't notice. But western people used to pop music will hear a note 10cents off and complain "oof that was off". And well...nobody can sing SO perfectly on pitch all the time to please western audience so...melodyne is just the standard. You HAVE to use it.
you'd think the whole ashley simpson tanking woulda taught the imbeciles?
Or if you're going to do it, at least make it CLEAR so everyone knows what they're paying for!
Geez Phil, he seems pissed. Check out his recent video lol. Quite funny. Keep up the great work!!!
i remember pointing this out on one of his videos like 10 years ago. he deleted the comment back then lol. glad to see others can tell too
Karma.
He did the same to me, Ken is a Hypocritic for sure!
At least he just deleted yours, I got 4 paragraphs of straight up abuse.
Busted!!! Exposing all the frauds. Love it, Fil. Keep up the great work!!!
I could hear the change, instantly!
After you said he wasnt hitting the strings, i watched and almost fell off my chair!!
Hi Fil! That was an incredible analysis! I saw and heard what you showed and explained in this video. Why do singers mime or lip sync and not sing naturally? BTW, Congrats on getting 415k subscribers! Rock!
I'm a subscriber and I wanted to know if you've done any videos of Chris Isaac? Your integrity is incredibly powerful and honest. Keep showing us the truth. You're a rare gem of a talent.
He did one, and the production company appears to have pitch corrected Chris’s vocal track.
"When the proof is in the miming"
😂👍
Good one 😂😂
"The proof is in the syncing"
On the Fortunate Son video someone called him out on him miming and he flat out denied it and called them names. He's now deleting every comment that questions him.
He's a nut in a lot of different respects. Not surprising to hear. But it is hilarious to hear.
@@pitpride1220 He's not deleting my comment... You guys are crazy.
I am a paranormal debunker, and I love that you guys are finding out these scammers in debunking them from taking millions of millions of dollars keep up the good work thank you!
Now I'm wondering about all his student videos on UA-cam. Is he pitch correcting his students as well?
Thank you Fil...I have TRIED to watch this dude and the way he does his tongue anytime he "sings"...drives me INSANE!!!! I always knew he was sketchy!!!!
@tyraaiken6884 I agree! What is going on with his tongue! He needs to learn how to control that CREEPY TOUNGE! I couldn't help but notice!
I agree. I watched one video and was turned off by his tongue and wired way he moves his lips. I was a bit creeped out!
Glad I’m not the only one thinking that. I commented earlier that I just can’t watch him sing. I just can’t take him seriously and I PRAY no singers trying to learn their craft have picked up that HORRIBLE habit
Thank you. I thought I was the only one that thinks his tongue is icky. Add this video with the constant hair flip and I can't stand to watch this poser.
After watching one of KT videos I was walking around the house singing with my tongue sticking out brushing my invisible hair from my face, I was definitely cracking myself up 🤣
Dude! Im definitely NOT a professional. I really enjoy your videos! Thanks for sharing this. Because i did think about getting his videos to try. My name is Mike Keesee. You do great work!
LOL, Ken’s probably the first vocal coach I followed. His advice probably saved my vocal chords from destruction.
As a newb to singing 7 years ago, I was amazed at his range, so I listened and took his advice where it applied.
I have a limited background in recording ( 80s ) and noticed the obvious production on his vocals.
I figured they were a blend of live and canned. Now I know I was close. That doesn’t take away from his lessons, but it does to his credibility.
Ironically, I stopped following him because as proof of his teaching, he brings on guests to show their skills. These are always heavily produced tracks and typically belting singing females.
That’s not what caused me to stop following him. When every singer seems to be over the top, female and on the tart side, it became kind of Harvey Weinstein’ish and cringe worthy.
I hear you. There’s something a bit creepy about someone in his age range focusing so much on featuring these young female singers, or is it just my imagination? LOL
Oh, and I’ll add that I doubt these young female singers are paying him 750 bucks for 1 hour vocal lesson, which is the posted rate on his site.
I'm in the same boat kinda. I think I learned a lot from him when I started singing about 6 years ago and I really dug his vibe, but I found it weird how he started pushing that blonde chick on his channel.
Also women singing songs originally done by men is a copout. It always sounds dull. What makes the originals exciting is men singing at the edge of their range. When women sing the same songs in the same pitch it sounds boring.
@@christuffer well put
As a voice teacher, this makes me laugh. What a chump. Thanks for this.
voice teacher, ehh? channel name please? lolz
Ever heard of people who teach in real life and not online?
@@MrMonkeyfarmer1 What’s so funny? To learn voice one needs a real live teacher in the room. hahaha.
@@MrMonkeyfarmer1Perhaps this person actually do stuff live....
@@MrMonkeyfarmer1 my vocal coach isn't on youtube...I assure you they are a real person.
What’s ironic is Ken getting a dose of his own medicine.
7:10 I hear that the REAL singing is clearer and the pre-recorded is a wee bit duller. So many evidences that he's deceived his viewers. :( AND FOR MONEY! That is the worst part. He's' using all of these videos to CONVINCE people to buy his singing course. That's just an entirely different level than me using a pitch shifter to sing a cover song as a $0.00-income hobby on my YT channel and even telling people that's how I did most of those high-ranged tunes I did. Glad you are dissecting this even if it is 15 years later!
He also seems to magically sing with reverb.
Yes, that's how I hear it, too! His live vocal also is a smidgen louder!
@@orlock20,
I hear that reverb, and think “auto tune”.
@@orlock20 I was thinking that although recorded live, the reverb could have been added later.
Hi, TruthSurge! You coming back to your channel? Miss you, brother.
Thanks for exposing Tamplin, Fil. I was sucked into his videos a few years back and thought he was very good. I started to become suspicious after a while, and started making comments under his videos suggesting he may be miming. All my comments were quickly deleted. I remember another vocal coach accusing Tamplin of miming in the first video you showed, Tamplin then threatened him with legal action.
I wouldn't have thought lying to his viewers and “students” is a very Christian thing to do. He’s apparently the cousin of Sammy Hagar, and probably has always been envious of Hagers success, and thought this was his way of making a name for himself. What a charlatan.
Great work, Phil.
'Sammy _Hagar_ '
I remember that guy who used to call out Ken, but then Ken sued him for defamation, and his channel was shutdown. Turns out he was telling the truth all along.
@@Durwood71 Yeah, that’s the one. Fortunatly, I found his videos again and he’s still exposing Tamplin, lol. His channel is Marc Ajax.
HAHAHA He threatened legal action because he can prove he's not doing what this stupid video accuses him of doing. Watch, this idiot is next to be sued for defamation or slander or whichever applies. Hahahaa
I first knew years ago there was something very shady about him.
He always has bad things to say about great singers.
Because of that I researched him.
This was years ago.
I got an exact timeline of his career.
So I asked him a few questions.
He made up an entire history of where, how and what is musical background was.
All bs.
I called him on it,and he took the time to write me a reply so long rebuffing what I said. If it wasn't true he would have just not replied.
I finally got him to admit a few lies.
He's pathetic on so many levels .
Great work! Finally someone who's qualified, exposed him
I´ve been around for somteimes. Tamplin quite a few years ago had a contorversy with Tristan Paredes, they made reaction videos about each others accusing each other for all sort of things. It ended with Tamplin sued Tristan, they come to some sort of agreement deleting all controversy videos.
@johnojvind7641 he's a real cheezzzze dik
He clearly is jealous of Sammy Hagar his cousin who got worldwide recognition.
You're brilliant. Thanks for this.
On another note, just saw Christopher Cross band and definitely no vocal nonsense going on. His pitch isn't what it used to be but no one cared. Authentic is always best.
Dude as soon as he started miming it had tons of reverb & was EQed to hell 😂😂😂
... during an actual live stream, too!
🙈😅
11:18 , definitely……
11:13 (it changes right after that)
He was obviously miming because of the fade, but it’s 100% normal to compress/eq/verb and/or delay a live vocal. Do you think guitars are mimed when they have distortion? 🤔
@@machinehum2 - I think atomdecay's point was that the compression, reverb an EQ'ing suddenly kicked in as if by magic, not actually that it was wrong to make use of them!
OMGOSH……I love watching Fil’s facial expressions throughout this video. So good! 😂 You can’t fool Fil!
I always enjoy watching your very well done analysis.