This is a fit I’ve used quite a lot. Although, it was a proper PvP version with a scram instead of a web. I ended up switching to an MASB + SAAR & 200mm plate version with 125mm Gatlings. In FW it’s easy for a lot of ships to get under this fits guns. With 125mm, not so much - the tracking is exceptional. I was a big fan of this MSE fit, but now realize that the MASB/125mm is just a better version of it. And it’s cheaper as well.
about 10%-15%. But if even you have a point, people will also get away: you can run out of cap and need to drop point, or they are simple faster and move out of your point range. The longer it takes to kill a target and the more helpless the target feels, the more likely it will try and run.
Depends on your targets. It has to be a target that won't run automatically from a Wolf or Jaguar regardless of fit, and you must be able to break it fast enough.
Wolf only has two midslots so if you shield tank it you only get one more slot for MWD or warp disruptor - i do remember back in the day before they buffed AFs, when they were still terribad, Wolf only had four low slots and shitty bonuses. There were a few guys who used to fly it with a shield extender like a mini-Vagabond but with no warp disruptor. It is possible but for a no-warp disruptor fit you def want max gank to kill people as fast as possible and maybe fly with a friend
Hey! i dont remember now if it was u but did u play in Amarr FW cause i remember fighting u and your slicers and it was always nice fighst and interesting/learning for me as newbie in pvp and also FW, i remember some time i chatted a bit after the fight, IGN Simo M28 Haya nice id on our little rifters and hope to see you soon once i come back from my break
the main problem is that you dont have scram :/ for null sec i suggest remove afterburner and add scram, vs bigger ships that couldnt track you at close range web is more usefull that afterburner and it takes less cap and if you remove afterburner you can also add some armor plate instead of damage control, its probably the best fit but mainly for FW
Yup, this exact fit. But you can downgrade a few things, losing a bit of DPS and tank but still being generally effective (other name shield extender, gyrostabilizer). However, against popular faction frigates, a few % really make a difference. I had the implants lying around, never used them, this was as a good opportunity as ever.
You'd be surprised at how many people just assume that they're pointed and don't even try to warp out, especially in small ships where 1v1s are over fast. Also if you're running a FW plex and someone punches into you they're there to to fight, they aren't trying to run.
Plenty of frig duels are so razor close that by the time an enemy has realized they will likely lose, they are already dead. Super loss averse pvpers, who rarely provide fun fights anyway, will definitely get away. But plenty of fun fights will be had and in the end the killmail is just a bonus. Eve is a game, winning a fight is winning a fight
I've been playing a few years and I've flown Rifters. But, man! I've never seen a Rifter look that good. You must have a kick-ass graphics card.
Thanks, I'm running with a 4070Ti. The video's is zoomed in: otherwise things would be too tiny when going from a 4k screen to 1080p video
If you drag the ammo to the center of the ship model in the fitting window, it loads the guns all at once. Just thought this would help!
Love watching these! Thank you for breaking everything down =)
This is a fit I’ve used quite a lot. Although, it was a proper PvP version with a scram instead of a web.
I ended up switching to an MASB + SAAR & 200mm plate version with 125mm Gatlings.
In FW it’s easy for a lot of ships to get under this fits guns.
With 125mm, not so much - the tracking is exceptional.
I was a big fan of this MSE fit, but now realize that the MASB/125mm is just a better version of it. And it’s cheaper as well.
Thank you for fit! Good video mate!
Great vids and fitting ideas!!! Tks
Nice Video. Good Fights, Thanks for sharing.
Well done!
Epic! Nice video mate
awesome Rifter!!! wp
Much respect.
Nice work!
Awesome
Rifter love
That is excellent content and some great fights - can you estimate what percentage of fights the enemy simply gets away because you have no point ?
about 10%-15%. But if even you have a point, people will also get away: you can run out of cap and need to drop point, or they are simple faster and move out of your point range. The longer it takes to kill a target and the more helpless the target feels, the more likely it will try and run.
@@merdaneth so true. Just dipping my toes into FW … love your content
Interested to see if this approach is expandable to wolf and jaguar.
Depends on your targets. It has to be a target that won't run automatically from a Wolf or Jaguar regardless of fit, and you must be able to break it fast enough.
Wolf only has two midslots so if you shield tank it you only get one more slot for MWD or warp disruptor - i do remember back in the day before they buffed AFs, when they were still terribad, Wolf only had four low slots and shitty bonuses. There were a few guys who used to fly it with a shield extender like a mini-Vagabond but with no warp disruptor. It is possible but for a no-warp disruptor fit you def want max gank to kill people as fast as possible and maybe fly with a friend
mental scram best scram
Very good
Comet eating rifter is pretty fun. I got a few in arty rifters but not many.
It can be, but against Comets its still 50/50 with the fit, even if you fly it properly.
@@merdanethI mean, tbh that's a long way from the usual auto loss
They nerfed arty rifter when they changed the damage bonus to a rate of fire bonus
I feel the "pain" of being Amarr born and raised... I followed the same path. However... Amarr has the Guardian. God I love that ship.
Hi , Nice vidéo . Did you have some implants ? Because i can’t fit this ship
He's showing his implants in this video.
Hey! i dont remember now if it was u but did u play in Amarr FW cause i remember fighting u and your slicers and it was always nice fighst and interesting/learning for me as newbie in pvp and also FW, i remember some time i chatted a bit after the fight, IGN Simo M28 Haya nice id on our little rifters and hope to see you soon once i come back from my break
Yes, that was me! Thanks.
Pi? What corp/alliance is that? I'd love a group of people that follow the true Amarr way
I'm a member of Khimi Harar alliance, which has all Amarr loyalists corps, including PIE, one of the oldest loyalist corps in the game.
the main problem is that you dont have scram :/ for null sec i suggest remove afterburner and add scram, vs bigger ships that couldnt track you at close range web is more usefull that afterburner and it takes less cap and if you remove afterburner you can also add some armor plate instead of damage control, its probably the best fit but mainly for FW
looks cool but it require high skills and 200M implants to fit this rifter and to have this high dps
Yup, this exact fit. But you can downgrade a few things, losing a bit of DPS and tank but still being generally effective (other name shield extender, gyrostabilizer). However, against popular faction frigates, a few % really make a difference. I had the implants lying around, never used them, this was as a good opportunity as ever.
Gusta ps.
...I think I'll adapt this to my Mekubal with a 10mn ab.
Decent
we fought !! 07 Thank you for the content.
You audio keeps getting quieter and quieter as the video goes on
hmm if u dont have a point, its not a pvp ship. enemy can just warp away
You'd be surprised at how many people just assume that they're pointed and don't even try to warp out, especially in small ships where 1v1s are over fast. Also if you're running a FW plex and someone punches into you they're there to to fight, they aren't trying to run.
Plenty of frig duels are so razor close that by the time an enemy has realized they will likely lose, they are already dead. Super loss averse pvpers, who rarely provide fun fights anyway, will definitely get away. But plenty of fun fights will be had and in the end the killmail is just a bonus. Eve is a game, winning a fight is winning a fight
Cursed fits are my favorite