I once had a genuinely ‘finished’ pedalboard, unchanging for nearly 10 years. Literally didn’t waste a second even thinking about changing it (it was all Boss tuner, OD, delay, reverb, loop station) and I used it for a ton of writing, recording and performing. Just one guitar and one amp, too. Our modern shitscape eventually caught up with me (as did stuff like the demands of parenthood to be fair) and I began consuming content like this channel in an endless solipsistic pointless toan chasing holding pattern of dissatisfaction. Would be funny if it wasn’t genuinely pathetic! I’ve replaced creative expression and meaningful communication, with shopping.
Haha its so true, its like a drug addiction these days with pedals, plug ins and so on, always chasing the next one cause it will make you sound better or play better, never being happy with what you have got currently.
The perfect solution for you then is to get the GT1000 or GX100... all the Boss pedals in one place 😅 all joking aside I have just picked up a GX100 and that is my search over till there is a major evolution in modellers.
It is amazing how much the HX Stomp has improved over the past 5 years or so with only software updates! Better IRs, extended functionality, more amps, cabs, and effects, more efficient use of the DSP while delivering better tone. I didn't buy my HX Stomp XL until the end of 2022, right after firmware 3.5, and it was a very satisfying purchase. I still like putting a good FuzzFace and King of Tone in front of it, since I already had them and they work great with the Stomp.
@@JohnShalamskas I was only joking really , I think the stomp and the helix are great. It has been around for awhile but it probably feels older because there is a new modeller out every couple of months.
Would the HX one be an idea instead of the keeley? I know ow you’re using it for compression but The fluxerator could make little parameter changes to whatever effect you have on it…just an idea.
I am a gain stacker. I have a Duke of Tone in front of 2 TS9s that are set identical, but 1 is modded and has a softer sound. The TS9s stacked make humbuckers sing with tight compression, the Duke + TS9 is a more Marshall sound; which the Duke alone is a blues driver sound. I have my compressor in front of all my gain pedals. Curious if you have put the Keeley Tonestation in front of the angry driver... that would get your compressor in the front of the signal chain and may add better color, then your compressor squeezes the guitar signal, not the Marshall tone... Cheers from the US.
I just finished wiring-up my new guitar signal chain and this was UA-cam’s first suggestion. The algorithm works frighteningly well. I love your tones, and playing, always!
John, have you seen Leon Todd's new video on the Ampero II Stage? Wow, what a fantastic Modeler! Sounds like a Fractal, is beautifully designed, feature rich, and $700 US. Please review/demo it if you get the chance. Thanks
I (mix & match) and stack Barber Gain Changer SR > Fulltone OCD > Thorpy Fallout Cloud. I can get Clapton & Santana tones, which I'm required to do with current project.
My Barber Gain Changer SR is my desert-island drive pedal. Sounds phenomenal with a Strat into a Princeton Reverb. Good Luck with your new set-up. Great tones & compact. oNe LovE from NYC
I had the same pedalboard for a very long time when I was using a Mesa Single Rec (clean was kinda dirty and distortion channel had enough gain for rock rhythm and leads plus the Mesa boost for a litlte bump when needed), Boss DD-6 for delay, Boss Chorus, Polytune mini tuner, a Morley Little Alligator to roll volume back easily with a minimum volume knob, Bad Horsie wah. I had everything I needed! Then I was sucked into the dark world of modeling by a Helix during the pandemic and everything has been in flux ever since!
My board for going straight into an amp has been the same now for about 5 years; Boss MS-3 handling switching, compression, tremolo and delay (the odd weird effect now and again too, like the Slogear or a pitched Lesley type effect); Chase Bliss Preamp mkII Automatone handling preamp drives and fuzz; UADFX Golden Reverberator for reverb (originally was using a Flint). That’s it! Does everything I need it to, and I have a spare couple of outs on the Ojai power supply for when I need a wah or some other one-off pedal.
You dont need that extra pedal to switch between the angry charlie and blues driver like youre doing. You can just select that mode on the angry driver.
Some great tones! Question - are you bypassing the HX Stomp amp & cab blocks when running from the Send into your amp? So the front of house gets a HX Stomp model but stage sound is the real amp tone? I was a bit confused by that part.
Been using the same pedalboard for a couple years now (never been this long hehe). I have a very similar setup to yours with a combination of analog pedals + modeler/multifx . I am using a Hotone Ampero for my main amp sound, plus a nice digital cleanish delay, a reverse delay and a sort of polyoctave sound. I combine that with an analog chorus, analog vibe and three fuzzes on the board. I am really happy with the setup. Probably have never been happier with my tone and usability, coming from first an AC15 with a pedalboard double the size, then moved to an Orange Rocker Terror with a smaller pedalboard. Although I am considering swopping the Hotone for an HX Stomp as it does have a bunch of effects I want to play with (more esoteric delays and all the synth sounds).
Love the tone! Interesting that you have the compressor after the drive pedal. Seem to sound just as sweet as the ones who have their compressors before drive. Thanks for the demo!
I finished my P B a couple yrs ago. When I first built it ya I did change out a few pedals. But now Im satisfied with each pedal. 12 on board. And most are bought used modded 90's pedals. I love that G A S is over and not bothering me to see and hear the newest sound. Since I like these old sounds best. Like for example my chorus is a black label Boss CH-1 thats been modded by Indyguitarist which is B Wampler back in the day. As its a Boss it will out survive me. As its a first run its analog style. Got a few newer 1's also. Like a Mooer liquid phase, a very versatile adjustment phaser that I 've not really found all the uses of all the sounds. Plus I got about 2 dozen others just to experiment with to keep me from wanting more. When I went crazy buying (before Covid) prices weren't bad. Now..... I'm so not interested in giving my money away like that.
Nice board :-) How do you find the hum noise (idle or playing) when using stacked gain? Do you use a noise gate in the stomp ? Do you use modulation at all?
Thanks for taking the time to share @John Nathan Cordy 😎👌🏿 As always you're a master at extracting tones. Seeing your board makes me somewhat sad the @jhspedals Steak& Eggs is now discontinued 🙁 Great to have a dual compressor+drive accessible!
I had a really good "finished board". It was two amp sim pedals running in stereo. Essentially a marshall and an orange, one with reverb and delay other dry. Like a wet/dry stereo rig. Then some guy kept on going on about an HX Stomp so I got one and dismantled it. Now I have no board.
I have a grip of mostly inexpensive pedals in series, some are downright cheap. Order: Output to a TC Electronic Spark Boost, EHX Germanium Big Muff (mostly for the Overdrive), a cheap-af Mosky Black Rat set to “Turbo Rat” mode, an Aguilar Filter Twin (envelope filter made for bass), TC Electronic Blood Moon phaser, JHS 3 Series Chorus, MXR Clone looper, and then the HX Stomp, which I mostly use as a noise gate and reverb 😂😂 but it is flexible. My “real amp” is a Rocktron Egnater TOL100 2x12 combo from the 90s that sounds like god and win. It has Vintage 30s in it right now, but I want to load it with greenbacks. Hey, the creator asked, and I am killing time. 😅
My OCD screams "Organise those pedals, linen them up" 😅 Really good tones nonetheless, love the hybrid concept between analog and digital devices working in tandem.
Nice board, my board hasn't changed in two years, but I've changed the way I use it. It's based around an HX Stomp with a midi FS and Bossy SY-200. I used to use the HX Stomp for just effects but after getting a Fender Tonemaster cab I switched to using the Stomp for effects and amp models.
I never had an issue when using my tube amps with the Stomp and now that I use the Fender FR10 I dialed in my patches while using the amp never really noticed an issue either. The FR10 does have EQ through so it's easy to make on the fly adjustments if a patch is a little dark, or bright etc.@@scampbel100
i've been really happy with hx stomp with timefactor in the fx loop. ampero control for snapshot and tuner, so I can switch preset on the hx stomp itself. I've been using it for a year and not planning to change anytime soon
I'm using a tonex but just pedal captures with a real angry Charlie,red dirt,and nordland something in front of it. Endless stacking into a Dr z M12 with neunaber immerse.. Oh and a Wampler terraform. Not too far away from your rig😅
Great tones.... I tend to slap together a pedalboard...and forget about it for a long while. The 1st one was made to make it easier to get some different sounds quickly...during my time with a Church Worship Team. That one lasted about 15 years. Then I started to get interested in more Ambient Guitar sounds (I know... is that not the same as the Worship Team sounds? Not at the time I was playing! LOL!), so I started experimenting with getting a couple of main different types of that (using standard & separate pedals). I also made a small board specifically for my NAS Flutes, for adding different type of reverb or delay plus the ability to build big multiplex Loops. I can combine them so that I can do a One-Man Dual Performance if or when needed. I feel set for another 15 years! LOL!
Great tones and great playing as always. Two questions out of curiosity: If your rhythm is the Angry Driver/MIAB, lead is stacking with the BUSS/BB, and you're saying you don't really use the Red Dirt/TS or the 1962/BB on the Tone Workstation: (1) why not simplify and swap the Tone Workstation with just a dedicated compressor, and (2) when playing with the band live do you feel you cut through enough with the Angry Driver/MIAB and/or BUSS/BB without the need of a mids boost drive, i.e. the Red Dirt/TS? Cheers!
Board sounds fantastic! But the location of your +6/+3 db boost foot pedal seems a bit awkward to me, having to step over the external switcher for the Angry Driver - do you not find it so? I'm definitely a gain stacking person (usually a mini TS pedal into my Timmy for medium gain, or either of those into another drive pedal for various higher gain lead sounds).
You previously mentioned using an exp pedal to increase/decrease delay/verb. Is that something you still do? Do you use more/less verb:delay when you are soloing live?
Good sounds and great playing, JNC. Do you find that running through the HX Stomp into the front of the amp changes the amp tone and response much as compared to just pedals or just the guitar by itself?
My board is very similar (2-3 analogue drive/compressor pedals + HX Stomp) with the same idea in mind, though in my case it's 99.9% ampless these days. I think you touched upon this in the past in some of your videos, but a cool, simple video idea would be to stick a delay or reverb pedal on this board in place of the HX Stomp in the board → amp scenario. Not to check which sounds better, but to check which one "sucks more tone out of the amp" (which is still a super common complaint online). Might be an interesting myth to bust.
I built a fantastic pedalboard. Small, compact, versatile, based around the GT1000Core. I loved it. So naturally I broke it down and built another 6 months later. 😭
External pedals can 1) make it easier to manually change settings, 2) save a block or 3 in your stomp, and 3) possibly sound better than what's available in the Stomp. If automation is required, then pedals with MIDI control and savable settings are a good idea. Minimize the use of pedals and wireless devices that digitize audio, to reduce latency, but latency under 10 ms is not very noticeable.
You already admitted in the title that it probably isn't finished. And you've changed you mind on things like PRS guitars, tube vs ss vs modelling several times. Let's face it, UA-cam just wants us to consume content and consume gear.
I once had a genuinely ‘finished’ pedalboard, unchanging for nearly 10 years. Literally didn’t waste a second even thinking about changing it (it was all Boss tuner, OD, delay, reverb, loop station) and I used it for a ton of writing, recording and performing. Just one guitar and one amp, too. Our modern shitscape eventually caught up with me (as did stuff like the demands of parenthood to be fair) and I began consuming content like this channel in an endless solipsistic pointless toan chasing holding pattern of dissatisfaction. Would be funny if it wasn’t genuinely pathetic! I’ve replaced creative expression and meaningful communication, with shopping.
Lighten up Francis.
Haha its so true, its like a drug addiction these days with pedals, plug ins and so on, always chasing the next one cause it will make you sound better or play better, never being happy with what you have got currently.
You are spot on! He has to come up with new topics every day which isn’t an easy task. Yes, it becomes an addiction.
Great comment!
The perfect solution for you then is to get the GT1000 or GX100... all the Boss pedals in one place 😅 all joking aside I have just picked up a GX100 and that is my search over till there is a major evolution in modellers.
Nice to see people using vintage gear like the hx stomp.
You made me laugh!!!
Lol.
You got jokes
It is amazing how much the HX Stomp has improved over the past 5 years or so with only software updates! Better IRs, extended functionality, more amps, cabs, and effects, more efficient use of the DSP while delivering better tone. I didn't buy my HX Stomp XL until the end of 2022, right after firmware 3.5, and it was a very satisfying purchase. I still like putting a good FuzzFace and King of Tone in front of it, since I already had them and they work great with the Stomp.
@@JohnShalamskas I was only joking really , I think the stomp and the helix are great. It has been around for awhile but it probably feels older because there is a new modeller out every couple of months.
Born in Sussex, John was the youngest of three, with both his parents being older.
My parents were younger. Funny world don't you think.
That's hard to believe 😂
@@lukesteverything627😂😂😂
Funny how that works out that way sometimes...🤔
John has never previously been as old as he is today.
Would the HX one be an idea instead of the keeley? I know ow you’re using it for compression but The fluxerator could make little parameter changes to whatever effect you have on it…just an idea.
I am a gain stacker. I have a Duke of Tone in front of 2 TS9s that are set identical, but 1 is modded and has a softer sound. The TS9s stacked make humbuckers sing with tight compression, the Duke + TS9 is a more Marshall sound; which the Duke alone is a blues driver sound. I have my compressor in front of all my gain pedals. Curious if you have put the Keeley Tonestation in front of the angry driver... that would get your compressor in the front of the signal chain and may add better color, then your compressor squeezes the guitar signal, not the Marshall tone... Cheers from the US.
I just finished wiring-up my new guitar signal chain and this was UA-cam’s first suggestion. The algorithm works frighteningly well. I love your tones, and playing, always!
P.S. I am using a hybrid approach as well, “real” pedals and an HX Stomp.
John, have you seen Leon Todd's new video on the Ampero II Stage? Wow, what a fantastic Modeler! Sounds like a Fractal, is beautifully designed, feature rich, and $700 US. Please review/demo it if you get the chance. Thanks
I love stacking. My main gain pedal is a Greer Southland with others getting involved too.
I (mix & match) and stack Barber Gain Changer SR > Fulltone OCD > Thorpy Fallout Cloud. I can get Clapton & Santana tones, which I'm required to do with current project.
My Barber Gain Changer SR is my desert-island drive pedal. Sounds phenomenal with a Strat into a Princeton Reverb. Good Luck with your new set-up. Great tones & compact. oNe LovE from NYC
I had the same pedalboard for a very long time when I was using a Mesa Single Rec (clean was kinda dirty and distortion channel had enough gain for rock rhythm and leads plus the Mesa boost for a litlte bump when needed), Boss DD-6 for delay, Boss Chorus, Polytune mini tuner, a Morley Little Alligator to roll volume back easily with a minimum volume knob, Bad Horsie wah. I had everything I needed! Then I was sucked into the dark world of modeling by a Helix during the pandemic and everything has been in flux ever since!
My board for going straight into an amp has been the same now for about 5 years; Boss MS-3 handling switching, compression, tremolo and delay (the odd weird effect now and again too, like the Slogear or a pitched Lesley type effect); Chase Bliss Preamp mkII Automatone handling preamp drives and fuzz; UADFX Golden Reverberator for reverb (originally was using a Flint). That’s it! Does everything I need it to, and I have a spare couple of outs on the Ojai power supply for when I need a wah or some other one-off pedal.
You dont need that extra pedal to switch between the angry charlie and blues driver like youre doing. You can just select that mode on the angry driver.
Some great tones! Question - are you bypassing the HX Stomp amp & cab blocks when running from the Send into your amp? So the front of house gets a HX Stomp model but stage sound is the real amp tone? I was a bit confused by that part.
Yes i believe that is correct
Been using the same pedalboard for a couple years now (never been this long hehe). I have a very similar setup to yours with a combination of analog pedals + modeler/multifx . I am using a Hotone Ampero for my main amp sound, plus a nice digital cleanish delay, a reverse delay and a sort of polyoctave sound. I combine that with an analog chorus, analog vibe and three fuzzes on the board. I am really happy with the setup. Probably have never been happier with my tone and usability, coming from first an AC15 with a pedalboard double the size, then moved to an Orange Rocker Terror with a smaller pedalboard. Although I am considering swopping the Hotone for an HX Stomp as it does have a bunch of effects I want to play with (more esoteric delays and all the synth sounds).
Love the tone! Interesting that you have the compressor after the drive pedal. Seem to sound just as sweet as the ones who have their compressors before drive. Thanks for the demo!
I finished my P B a couple yrs ago. When I first built it ya I did change out a few pedals. But now Im satisfied with each pedal. 12 on board. And most are bought used modded 90's pedals. I love that G A S is over and not bothering me to see and hear the newest sound. Since I like these old sounds best. Like for example my chorus is a black label Boss CH-1 thats been modded by Indyguitarist which is B Wampler back in the day. As its a Boss it will out survive me. As its a first run its analog style. Got a few newer 1's also. Like a Mooer liquid phase, a very versatile adjustment phaser that I 've not really found all the uses of all the sounds. Plus I got about 2 dozen others just to experiment with to keep me from wanting more. When I went crazy buying (before Covid) prices weren't bad. Now..... I'm so not interested in giving my money away like that.
Nice board :-)
How do you find the hum noise (idle or playing) when using stacked gain? Do you use a noise gate in the stomp ?
Do you use modulation at all?
Thanks for taking the time to share @John Nathan Cordy 😎👌🏿 As always you're a master at extracting tones. Seeing your board makes me somewhat sad the @jhspedals Steak& Eggs is now discontinued 🙁 Great to have a dual compressor+drive accessible!
I had a really good "finished board". It was two amp sim pedals running in stereo. Essentially a marshall and an orange, one with reverb and delay other dry. Like a wet/dry stereo rig. Then some guy kept on going on about an HX Stomp so I got one and dismantled it. Now I have no board.
Can’t believe it, I made a very similar board like last week. Loving it so far.
I have a grip of mostly inexpensive pedals in series, some are downright cheap. Order: Output to a TC Electronic Spark Boost, EHX Germanium Big Muff (mostly for the Overdrive), a cheap-af Mosky Black Rat set to “Turbo Rat” mode, an Aguilar Filter Twin (envelope filter made for bass), TC Electronic Blood Moon phaser, JHS 3 Series Chorus, MXR Clone looper, and then the HX Stomp, which I mostly use as a noise gate and reverb 😂😂 but it is flexible. My “real amp” is a Rocktron Egnater TOL100 2x12 combo from the 90s that sounds like god and win. It has Vintage 30s in it right now, but I want to load it with greenbacks. Hey, the creator asked, and I am killing time. 😅
My OCD screams "Organise those pedals, linen them up" 😅 Really good tones nonetheless, love the hybrid concept between analog and digital devices working in tandem.
Nice board, my board hasn't changed in two years, but I've changed the way I use it. It's based around an HX Stomp with a midi FS and Bossy SY-200. I used to use the HX Stomp for just effects but after getting a Fender Tonemaster cab I switched to using the Stomp for effects and amp models.
How do you tame the high end on the HX Stomp when playing at “gig volume”?
I never had an issue when using my tube amps with the Stomp and now that I use the Fender FR10 I dialed in my patches while using the amp never really noticed an issue either. The FR10 does have EQ through so it's easy to make on the fly adjustments if a patch is a little dark, or bright etc.@@scampbel100
i've been really happy with hx stomp with timefactor in the fx loop. ampero control for snapshot and tuner, so I can switch preset on the hx stomp itself. I've been using it for a year and not planning to change anytime soon
I'm using a tonex but just pedal captures with a real angry Charlie,red dirt,and nordland something in front of it.
Endless stacking into a Dr z M12 with neunaber immerse..
Oh and a Wampler terraform.
Not too far away from your rig😅
? Where can I get one of those ball caps ?
How much did that lot cost and if you could have anything you like what would you change?
Great tones.... I tend to slap together a pedalboard...and forget about it for a long while. The 1st one was made to make it easier to get some different sounds quickly...during my time with a Church Worship Team. That one lasted about 15 years. Then I started to get interested in more Ambient Guitar sounds (I know... is that not the same as the Worship Team sounds? Not at the time I was playing! LOL!), so I started experimenting with getting a couple of main different types of that (using standard & separate pedals). I also made a small board specifically for my NAS Flutes, for adding different type of reverb or delay plus the ability to build big multiplex Loops. I can combine them so that I can do a One-Man Dual Performance if or when needed. I feel set for another 15 years! LOL!
Great tones and great playing as always. Two questions out of curiosity: If your rhythm is the Angry Driver/MIAB, lead is stacking with the BUSS/BB, and you're saying you don't really use the Red Dirt/TS or the 1962/BB on the Tone Workstation: (1) why not simplify and swap the Tone Workstation with just a dedicated compressor, and (2) when playing with the band live do you feel you cut through enough with the Angry Driver/MIAB and/or BUSS/BB without the need of a mids boost drive, i.e. the Red Dirt/TS? Cheers!
Do you connect the HX stomp to the front of the amp? Or the fx loop?
Board sounds fantastic! But the location of your +6/+3 db boost foot pedal seems a bit awkward to me, having to step over the external switcher for the Angry Driver - do you not find it so? I'm definitely a gain stacking person (usually a mini TS pedal into my Timmy for medium gain, or either of those into another drive pedal for various higher gain lead sounds).
Is your shut up and dance delay just a dotted eight or is there a quarter in there too?
Do you do BEAT IT in the Wedding gigs?? Simple Rig is GOOD, less to go Wrong. NO ROASTING from me.
You previously mentioned using an exp pedal to increase/decrease delay/verb. Is that something you still do? Do you use more/less verb:delay when you are soloing live?
Good sounds and great playing, JNC. Do you find that running through the HX Stomp into the front of the amp changes the amp tone and response much as compared to just pedals or just the guitar by itself?
Just missing an Aerospace Audio Atmosphere Pad pedal!
My board is very similar (2-3 analogue drive/compressor pedals + HX Stomp) with the same idea in mind, though in my case it's 99.9% ampless these days.
I think you touched upon this in the past in some of your videos, but a cool, simple video idea would be to stick a delay or reverb pedal on this board in place of the HX Stomp in the board → amp scenario. Not to check which sounds better, but to check which one "sucks more tone out of the amp" (which is still a super common complaint online). Might be an interesting myth to bust.
What are you using for a looper?
"This woman is my destiny, woo woo shut up and dance with me"
15 days with a board...max. something always change...or everything...i have a problem.
Do you find that stereo effects work in a small club setting? Or do you just run mono?
testing
@@kevinlong4657 Once I got accustomed to stereo effects, I dislike mono. I don't gig, though.
"Luxury, once sampled, becomes necessity."
"Whatever that was supposed to be..." 😂
Yeah! Copyright strike avoiding wedding band material.
I finally finished my pedalboard !!! Three days later: "Hmm...what if I..."
Please straighten your pedals! It's really triggering my OCD. All your HX Stomp videos have helped me a lot, thank you.
So the amazing Vemuram pedals didn't get any place on your board, so maybe they weren't so good after all.
Needs more cowbell 😂
"Is a Pedalboard ever really finished though?" Yes, if you throw it in a bin.
Liking commenting subscribed
Finished. Well, for today. Well, until dinner at least.
Spam in nearly every comment… be careful. John does not “wanna talk to you” (at least through that account).
5 different drive pedals. Seems legit
Yeah, I noticed that they sounded fairly similar. Probably could pare it down to 1 or 2 tops. Light OD/clean boost, and heavy OD / Fuzz.
Came here to roast but after watching it in action, I have to say you did built a great pedalboard which works perfectly. 👍
Were you ever a member of AZii?
I built a fantastic pedalboard. Small, compact, versatile, based around the GT1000Core. I loved it.
So naturally I broke it down and built another 6 months later. 😭
Finished 😏
Just use a helix, and stop f/g around.
External pedals can 1) make it easier to manually change settings, 2) save a block or 3 in your stomp, and 3) possibly sound better than what's available in the Stomp. If automation is required, then pedals with MIDI control and savable settings are a good idea. Minimize the use of pedals and wireless devices that digitize audio, to reduce latency, but latency under 10 ms is not very noticeable.
Sixth comment!!! 👍
No. No they are not ever finished. I have finally accepted it. 😂😂
You already admitted in the title that it probably isn't finished. And you've changed you mind on things like PRS guitars, tube vs ss vs modelling several times. Let's face it, UA-cam just wants us to consume content and consume gear.
And i'm first! LOL
the definitive pedalboard!!! at least for this week...
Found it.
JC Hybrid GigSC.hlx