"I thought Christians were stupid" (w/ Jake from August Burns Red)
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2023
- Jake Lurhs from August Burns Red joins to talk about how the punk and metal scene looks down on Christians.
Full interview: • AUGUST BURNS RED: Depr...
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Growing up, I could only listen to “Christian” music. Because of that, the Tooth & Nail/Solid State bands were what got me into the scene. I think it’s great that you not only talk with the guys from these bands, but also ask them about their faith and religion. 👍🏻
great segment! I recommend the entire interview to anyone who hasn't seen it!!! It goes by really fast!!!
Jake saying "fuck" in a discussion about God made me incredibly happy, because I swear like a sailor but also love my God. Made me feel more of a personal connection with one of my favorite vocalists. Small shit but I like it lol
Agreed. We are imperfect humans, that’s why we need Jesus.
Lord, show me the way as I give myself to You
Never let me go, hold me with Your everlasting love
Be my strength, be my voice, my glory
Set me free
Redemption
Great interview. A lot of millennials including myself have been struggling with faith for years and are trying to find a path back to God.
He never left you.
@@benagosto3641 Amen. Everything in our lives will come back together when we realize it and embrace God.
Jesus is the way, Read the bible.
I talk to God like he's my best friend, I don't change any dialect or act a certain way I just say what's on my mind to god in my head
Hey I just want to encourage you in that. I think that's great. You're building intimacy and friendship with God. Hope things are going well.
Exactly!
He loves you as you are. He already knows. I'm real with him daily good or bad he can take it. He's an understanding God
@@ThunderousNinja Well said! Facts!
That's your internal monologue, FFS.
Thanks for having these interviews and talking about things that so many people are afraid to talk about. I watched the full episode and didnt agree with everything. But when things are said coming from a place of acceptance of other views it OK to not agree.
Im not religious, I believe in Science, not God. But really they dont have to be mutually exclusive. What I call "science" is maybe what someone else calls "god". They both encompase things that us mortals cannot explain, science follows the belief that everything can be explained if we can just figure it out, while I think religion is more, there are some things we arent meant to know. Honestly I dont know which is correct, but does it matter? I dont like how some people have weaponized god though (and I also dont like how some people have weaponized science either). So I tend to lable myself as spiritual instead of religious... but honestly I think talking about science and spirit is like saying 6 of one, half dozen of the other...
Again thank you for having these interesting conversations though. Its a rare thing on the internet these days
Well said ✌️🤟🤘🖖
When I read “I believe in science, not God”, I was ready to reply, but your next sentence “ they don’t have to be mutually exclusive” was EXACTLY what I was going to reply with. I’m not ‘religious’ either, but this binary view of spirituality is wrong imo. To me, ‘God’ is whatever caused the Big Bang. Our entire universe is governed by laws; light travels @ 670 million miles per hour, sound travels (through air) at 767 mph, but 3319 mph through water. ‘God’, to me, it is whatever force is behind governing these universal principles, it’s the Breath of Life itself. And I don’t need ceremony & dogma to believe in something greater and more intelligent than myself 🤷♂️
@@evergray5063 i mean I dont necessarily think what governs our reality is "intelligent" at least not by our standard of intelligence. But I feel there are rules and they are followed. The mysteries are rules that we dont understand yet (and maybe never will). But when our understanding of science has come so far to be able to say that matter is made of energy.... what is the difference between something like that and the idea of spirit? Im also certain that there is more to energy and matter than we have discovered through science...
In the end spirituality should be whatever makes sense to you though. I wont pretend to know more or less than anyone else 😁
@@bazamere yeah I don’t mean intelligent by our understanding or metrics either. I think “God” is beyond human understanding, we literally lack the cognitive capacity to fathom IT. A dog knows certain words, can read facial expressions, understand tone of voice, but if you ask a dog to code an application in C++, it lacks the capacity to understand the question (maybe even the concept of a question) much less the capacity to understand a computer, code, coding languages, etc. I think humans have the same deficiency in trying to understand what “God“ even is it’s a word we use to describe something beyond our comprehension, and religions have personified their deities to make them more palatable, familiar, and understandable, but, in my opinion, they are all, trying to - for lack of more elegant words - latch onto or attempt to resonate with some cosmic positive energy. Kind of cheesy, I know, but it’s the best way I can attempt to describe the indescribable.
I may not be religious but Wolves At The Gate songs have helped me through a lot
We also need to take into account our cultural bias towards tradition. For westernised faith...its all the same, needs to be changed and reflect the changing community...but for other cultures faith its like wow that unchanging structure that is so awesome that it has survived and your able to practice it. Our modern mindset can be often too focused on individuality and entertainment.
Im an athiest, i used to despise christians. Now i respect the belief system and am happy seeing people happy as long they arent hurting anyone
How can you be punk and be rebellious and look down on one of the most rebellious philosophies in the world?
Solid interview. Jake and ABR are the reason I was able to come off my pedestal as an “elitist” agnostic myself. The album “rescue and restore” really helped me further understand and assess Christianity, religion, and more importantly myself and my relationship them. I’m still very much agnostic but have found respect for those that do the real work of the god they worship. Christianity and religion are not inherently bad, in fact when not abused it is something that can foster monumental positive change in peoples lives and even cultural changes. However, just as anything else, there are always bad apples that ruin it for everyone else and take it and construe it to take advantage of others. There are faith based organizations, churches, etc that are doing the real work and supporting communities in desperate need. Shout out to those that take action and place people first before religion. I’ll end this with a ABR lyric that resonates with me to this day from the song “Treatment.”
“Stop dwelling on what happens when we die. Start helping others while we’re still alive.”
Is this the vocalist of ABR?
No this is Patrick
Yes
@@TheMetaldudeX L O L !!!
No it’s jake from State Farm
Didn't read the caption, eh? 😂
Love Jake🤘🏻
clear a path, stand aside, wer carrying the torches!!!!!
I really like you guys, and what you have to say. I grew up as a "Christian metal head". I am concerned, however, that you would equate Christianity with "American Brand Christianity", which aligns with such false prophets as Benny Hinn and Kenneth Copelannd, Tourniquet, in their classic, "A dogs Breakfast", address these issues.
I'm not Christian nor religious but I can say that Jesus saved me growing up staying away from trouble gangs and drugs
Alguien que me traduzca el contexto del video? 🙏🏻
Well, this isn't bad religion... bait.
🔥🔥🔥
Look Being As An Ocean does it perfectly.
They have lyrics about god, especially their first album. But it doesn't matter. What they're writing about isn't really sth "christian". All of their lyrics is more universal. They're not preaching christianity. I belive just their vocalis Joel is still christian, but they all used to be. The also have new members. Still... Joel is talking about love and acceptence and stuff, but it's not in "christian" way. I love this band so much, i had some of the most beautiful moments in my life with this band and i'm not christian at all.
Btw I need to say, I'm not a fan of christianity or religion in general. But people can belive in a god or gods without being in a religion. Organized religion is in our history is mostly the cause for so many bad things, like discrimination, wars and hate.
What are religious songs from August burns red?
@@batman-sr2px their first LP is called messengers…think about that for a second, and though Jake said he was against the church then, I would urge you to look the lyrics up…for that album, and then anything post that album. As they state “Christian’s hate Christian’s” sometimes. I urge you to look at their lyrics especially on rescue and restore. I realize it’s later in their career, but their title track is “provision”. Hear what they have to say! It’s a man struggling to find faith, like I think we all are.
@@batman-sr2px “I’m the thief, the whore, the murderer” is directly from the Bible, and I don’t believe in that faith. Jake is a man struggling to find a higher power, as we all are, and he states his stance very clearly, and succinctly.
@@batman-sr2px “I’d rather learn then end up in a cold dark grave”…he’s just like us all, searching for something
@@batman-sr2pxpretty much every song from leveler and rescue & restore have christian lyrics and every album has a few songs with christian lyrics
Vaakevandring is cool
Jesus > Religion
😅 they all says that jesus is not a religion but à relationship with god.i mean they build Church in that idéa whatever
Religion is the absolute basis for Western society.
I've never had a spiritual experience in my life. I never really ever felt jealous about that. If anything, I felt pity. If something out there created all of this, it is the people that should be rising up and getting ready to do the judging and be a violent force against it instead of caring what the biggest deadbeat father in any storybook ever has to say. If there's a god, please judge me lol I'll judge you right the fuck back
Extol is my favorite band & I’m not religious at all.
God is good
Christian’s aren’t supposed to be “liked” they crucified Jesus who is and was the most Holy innocent man to ever walk the earth they are supposed to represent Christ and tell of His good works and to sinners the Gospel will be offensive because it tells them of leaving their life and that they’re are walking alongside their father the devil and repenting and trusting and following Jesus is the ONLY way out “JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE” also Christian’s should refrain from becoming like the world for then therefore they identity that they are part of it so all this profanity is concerning I don’t know his walk but I do know that it does go against the Bible to speak as such
Christians didn't kill Jesus. Thew jews did.
What a shame. I thought you were better than this. Gonna have to block you now.
Jesus saves you all
Only thing I could say is that Christ is the only way, truth and life and nobody will make it to God the father without Him. By the way, real Christians don’t curse.
Lmfao
cornball...
Screw that. While I respect the people who are believers, I don't respect their beliefs. They've might have brought hope and stability for some, but the destruction, harm and abuse that also comes with it makes it not worthy of any respect.
That's not faith, that's people using religion or scripture as an excuse to be shitty people.
Only peace love and harmony baby! 🥴🥴🍆🍆🤤😋
I’ve seen way more destruction, harm and abuse from non Christians than Christians.
Atheism is responsible for over 100 million deaths in Mao's atheist China and Stalins atheist Russia in under 100 years, but go on....
Say it about Islam too! Go ahead
Well, I mean they are so...
ok and?
Gee my masters in economics definitely disagrees. I could say the same about the dogmatic ideology that believes putting children on chemical castration drugs and dubbing it "gender affirming care" are dumber than the dumbest of Christians.
I feel bad for you.
Are you saying you're smarter than say J.J. Thomson? what scientific discovery have you discovered, do tell us please smart guy