Not worth at all. I came from a household like that. The mentality that “we stay married for the children”. That creates resentment from everyone in the household. Too much toxicity.
Yes, because if both people are unhappy. There’s no reason they should stay together and make things worst. And if a child is involved, it should always be a priority to do their part in taking care and loving the child through the divorce.
I agree with Bart when he say engagement should be the "probationary marriage" period. What's the difference between being engaged for 5 years, then being married for 5 years in terms of behavior? It's very unlikely that you're with someone for years, then engaged for years, but then all of a sudden when you're married you discover an aspect about them that you don't like and you want out of the marriage. Having a longer engagement is a very good idea imo
For me, divorce should be an option, and marriage should not be forced upon people at all. It will never turn out well when you force a relationship to move too fast out of external pressure (cultural norms, tradition, peer pressure), and you aren't exercising your freewill and being honest with yourself out of insecurities and fear. If it involves children, it definitely is a different ball park. I happen to be in that situation, and it affected me and my sister, because my parents got emotionally/verbally abusive towards me and towards each other. I hardly ever see them being affectionate, happy together, like a truly loving married couple would normally do. Maybe that's why I learned all these toxic behaviours and unconsciously carried into my love life/current relationship that got toxic and it's painful to stay in a toxic relationship. Leave if you must for your own happiness, your own sanity.
For me, the most traumatic thing that has come from my parents divorce is they aren’t civil with each other at least even if both parties are remarried. I’m constantly hearing my father bad mouthing my mom still even if it’s been 20 years. They don’t even need to talk but the fact that I hear bad shit is still toxic. I’m 23 and I still hear bad shit. It’s annoying and damaging to my mental health.
the only thing that makes divorce acceptable is if every time the divorced enemies meet, they must duel with lightsabers until the other party submits and cries uncle
Yes. Divorce should be an option. Always. End of discussion. Can't say I agree with Geo and Bart on this issue. Just my two cents. Any woman who disagrees with my response on this subject matter, can't date me or be in a relationship with me. NO EXCEPTIONS! I believe in the western concept of romantic love. Relationships should be based on love. If two people don't love each other anymore, then they should either break up (if they're dating) or get divorced (if they're married).
Do y'all take requests? I'd appreciate a podcast of some parenting tips that you have learned over the years. For example, why you found it best not to let the child sleep in your bed with the two of you. Why you let them cry-it-out to learn to soothe themselves, etc.
I get what Bart is saying alot. Alotta people misconstrue marriage as the next step instead of the final step when they put that thought into their relationship. They’re settling at some point to some degree and are not bringing that up when they get angry, so it builds up to threatening with divorce
BDSandMm, and that seems to be the idea of marriage nowadays; to me, marriage is a commitment you make to be with someone to the end of your lives regardless of whether or not you have a paper or the same bank accounts or a pre-nup/post-nup. But since it’s a legal thing, it’s a way to trap in many cases (low key lookin at Syd Wilder or that guy that almost force Tiff into marriage). It’s a value that many have and aim for in a relationship, but if you’re view it as a tax rid off and your own prom, then it’s just that to ya. Bart and Geo didn’t even go for some extravagant party at first (being that they ended up at Hawaii, so $$$). It’s another layer of a relationship that is suppose to confirm that this is you last relationship until one of you dies. Getting out of that promise leads to our so called divorce, and it does follow the same sort of constructs as a normal relationship/break up.
I watched on FB a video called Red Table. Will Smith and his wife talk about the hard times in their relationship. Check it out. The only problem with search and dating a lot of people as a young adult is I was always looking for something better and not committing to my self and self exploration or committing to an individual. I realized I was addicted to having the relationship but not knowing how to go from there. I kept me out of it and would go onto the next relationship. That was due to moving constantly and never keeping a friendship. You video cut out at 106
I feel that for Bart, he doesn’t want Taika to experience any discomfort because of his and Geo’s bullsh*t. Very admirable but not always practical. But I agree with Geo saying she and Bart will never divorce. You can tell that they always talk it out and for Bart it’s a very raw and sensitive person and topic that you see it in his disciplinarian style withTaika.
Out of all of JK, Bart & Geo always seemed like such a strong couple. Not to shit on the others, but Joe & Jess, and Tiff & Case to me don't have that same strength of relationship
It should definitely be an option immediately. If things get worse just divorce I'm talking from experience my parents divorce turned out ugly I wish my mom had already moved instead of asking me if I wanted to stay with her or my dad and yes I never ended up choosing because I didnt want them to divorce I thought maybe it was just all fake until a about 2 months later it got worse and the last day I lived with both of them I regret not chosing my dad because his dead now
40:30 cannot be judging partner for what I want, it’s destining a partnership to fail Instead of being a whole person and not needing them to fill a void = don’t need to judge them and compare lil they’re an item for your own selfish needs
This is going to sound weird but I see bart as an older/wiser version of myself. My parents divorced when I was 5. I grew up an angry and lonely kid, constantly feeling like I had to prove how tough I was to everyone. And now here I am a 19 year old college dropout about to join the marine corps. I'm also 5'8 with literally the same build as bart. I have experience in wrestling, karate, jiu-jitsu and weight lifting. And I'm asian, lol crazy how shit works out like that. Anyway I just want to thank you bart and geo for being wonderful people. You guys really have taught me a lot about how to love and live life the right way. Thank you for being awesome.
I dont know what kind of trauma Bart went through or any child of a divorced marriage goes through. But it is extremely hard to grow up in a loveless family. I can only speak from my own experience, and my parent's were yelling at each other everyday. Over the smallest things. I know seeing my parents fight everyday, made me have an extremely cynical view on love and relationships once i was an adult. I would like to know what kind of trauma Bart went through to get a better understanding of what my life would have been like, had my parents divorced. I am curious whether i would have grown up happier. I may be wrong, but i dont think divorce is the thing that causes trauma. It's the relationship between the parents that cause trauma.
if you learn something about someone only after marriage & you decide you don't like it & want a divorce, that means you didn't know them well enough to get married in the first place. DON'T RUSH INTO MARRIAGE!!!!!!
I wish my parents got divorced. My mom always found a reason to stay. It is partially due to her being traumatized by her parents divorce. Partially because my dad has to sides to him. I use to wish that he died when I was younger so the pain he caused me would stop.
@AmethystEyes I’m sorry that it’s still affecting your life. Find someone to talk to so that you can grow from your pain. Doesn’t have to be a professional. A woman’s group would be good as well. One that follows the 12 step program rules.
Divorce *should* be an option. But I think what needs to be regulated more is getting married. Work out the kinks first like seriously before making a huge commitment
From baby till I was 5 I’ve seen my mum go through divorce and breakups and heart break... I didn’t know if I was coming or going and same with my mum... it was a hard time for us, I’ve seen my mum go through 2 divorces, heart break and fighting, it’s been my life, she was then married from 5 till 15, so 10 years, then after that she found other’s here and their and now she’s happily married but even the first 5 years of my life was unhappy and even growing up it’s been rocky, mine and my mums relationship is strong and good which is a plus side, she’s happily married again now and this time is so much happier and better 💜
@@natsjourney6570 trust me. It's only temporary. You buy a new car, it makes happy... Temporary. You win a jackpot in the lottery to last you a lifetime..... It only makes you happy temporarily. Everything in this world is a temporary feeling
@@salmaabdullahgb happiness is still only a temporary feeling. You could feel content with life or with what you have. We all struggle to find the next thing to give us an emotional feeling
If the relationship is truly a terrible fit, then divorce should be an option. Obviously, no one should want to divorce or take divorce too lightly, but if the relationship is toxic, it is better to split up than continue to have a terrible, possibly abusive environment. Divorce may be the lesser-of-two-evils for everyone involved, even for the children.
Fyi to the people in the comments, don't give your advice based off of YOUR experiences. Cause those were yours, not everyone has the same outcome as you.
Trust me divorce parents are better then a toxic house hold. Coming from a guy that came from that background
Miguel Alvarez amen
Toxic anything is bad
It’s admirable that Bart would want to stay married for the sake of little Taika, but as someone that came from the same background it ain’t worth it
yup
Not worth at all. I came from a household like that. The mentality that “we stay married for the children”. That creates resentment from everyone in the household. Too much toxicity.
Yes, because if both people are unhappy. There’s no reason they should stay together and make things worst. And if a child is involved, it should always be a priority to do their part in taking care and loving the child through the divorce.
Marriage is commitment through the bad days or not, people should think about that before they even plan to get married. It's serious shit
I agree with Bart when he say engagement should be the "probationary marriage" period. What's the difference between being engaged for 5 years, then being married for 5 years in terms of behavior? It's very unlikely that you're with someone for years, then engaged for years, but then all of a sudden when you're married you discover an aspect about them that you don't like and you want out of the marriage. Having a longer engagement is a very good idea imo
For me, divorce should be an option, and marriage should not be forced upon people at all. It will never turn out well when you force a relationship to move too fast out of external pressure (cultural norms, tradition, peer pressure), and you aren't exercising your freewill and being honest with yourself out of insecurities and fear. If it involves children, it definitely is a different ball park. I happen to be in that situation, and it affected me and my sister, because my parents got emotionally/verbally abusive towards me and towards each other. I hardly ever see them being affectionate, happy together, like a truly loving married couple would normally do. Maybe that's why I learned all these toxic behaviours and unconsciously carried into my love life/current relationship that got toxic and it's painful to stay in a toxic relationship. Leave if you must for your own happiness, your own sanity.
For me, the most traumatic thing that has come from my parents divorce is they aren’t civil with each other at least even if both parties are remarried. I’m constantly hearing my father bad mouthing my mom still even if it’s been 20 years. They don’t even need to talk but the fact that I hear bad shit is still toxic. I’m 23 and I still hear bad shit. It’s annoying and damaging to my mental health.
the only thing that makes divorce acceptable is if every time the divorced enemies meet, they must duel with lightsabers until the other party submits and cries uncle
Yes. Divorce should be an option. Always. End of discussion. Can't say I agree with Geo and Bart on this issue. Just my two cents. Any woman who disagrees with my response on this subject matter, can't date me or be in a relationship with me. NO EXCEPTIONS! I believe in the western concept of romantic love. Relationships should be based on love. If two people don't love each other anymore, then they should either break up (if they're dating) or get divorced (if they're married).
Longest relationship only a fling right? 😂
@@Sr68720 No comment
Do y'all take requests?
I'd appreciate a podcast of some parenting tips that you have learned over the years.
For example, why you found it best not to let the child sleep in your bed with the two of you.
Why you let them cry-it-out to learn to soothe themselves, etc.
yes. it should
10:20
25:30
26:50 biologically not monogamous creatures
28:00 role model
29:00 what you say is role model as well
I get what Bart is saying alot. Alotta people misconstrue marriage as the next step instead of the final step when they put that thought into their relationship. They’re settling at some point to some degree and are not bringing that up when they get angry, so it builds up to threatening with divorce
BDSandMm, and that seems to be the idea of marriage nowadays; to me, marriage is a commitment you make to be with someone to the end of your lives regardless of whether or not you have a paper or the same bank accounts or a pre-nup/post-nup. But since it’s a legal thing, it’s a way to trap in many cases (low key lookin at Syd Wilder or that guy that almost force Tiff into marriage). It’s a value that many have and aim for in a relationship, but if you’re view it as a tax rid off and your own prom, then it’s just that to ya. Bart and Geo didn’t even go for some extravagant party at first (being that they ended up at Hawaii, so $$$). It’s another layer of a relationship that is suppose to confirm that this is you last relationship until one of you dies. Getting out of that promise leads to our so called divorce, and it does follow the same sort of constructs as a normal relationship/break up.
I watched on FB a video called Red Table. Will Smith and his wife talk about the hard times in their relationship. Check it out. The only problem with search and dating a lot of people as a young adult is I was always looking for something better and not committing to my self and self exploration or committing to an individual. I realized I was addicted to having the relationship but not knowing how to go from there. I kept me out of it and would go onto the next relationship. That was due to moving constantly and never keeping a friendship. You video cut out at 106
I feel that for Bart, he doesn’t want Taika to experience any discomfort because of his and Geo’s bullsh*t. Very admirable but not always practical.
But I agree with Geo saying she and Bart will never divorce. You can tell that they always talk it out and for Bart it’s a very raw and sensitive person and topic that you see it in his disciplinarian style withTaika.
Love the BeawCast. Hope there’s a Vlog tonight. Please.
I don't disagree with divorces but im just wondering what the vows are for then ?
38:20 didn’t want to enter into a relationship when feeling like you need help
Accomplish what you want first
Out of all of JK, Bart & Geo always seemed like such a strong couple. Not to shit on the others, but Joe & Jess, and Tiff & Case to me don't have that same strength of relationship
It should definitely be an option immediately. If things get worse just divorce I'm talking from experience my parents divorce turned out ugly I wish my mom had already moved instead of asking me if I wanted to stay with her or my dad and yes I never ended up choosing because I didnt want them to divorce I thought maybe it was just all fake until a about 2 months later it got worse and the last day I lived with both of them I regret not chosing my dad because his dead now
40:30 cannot be judging partner for what I want, it’s destining a partnership to fail
Instead of being a whole person and not needing them to fill a void = don’t need to judge them and compare lil they’re an item for your own selfish needs
This is going to sound weird but I see bart as an older/wiser version of myself. My parents divorced when I was 5. I grew up an angry and lonely kid, constantly feeling like I had to prove how tough I was to everyone. And now here I am a 19 year old college dropout about to join the marine corps. I'm also 5'8 with literally the same build as bart. I have experience in wrestling, karate, jiu-jitsu and weight lifting. And I'm asian, lol crazy how shit works out like that. Anyway I just want to thank you bart and geo for being wonderful people. You guys really have taught me a lot about how to love and live life the right way. Thank you for being awesome.
I dont know what kind of trauma Bart went through or any child of a divorced marriage goes through. But it is extremely hard to grow up in a loveless family. I can only speak from my own experience, and my parent's were yelling at each other everyday. Over the smallest things. I know seeing my parents fight everyday, made me have an extremely cynical view on love and relationships once i was an adult.
I would like to know what kind of trauma Bart went through to get a better understanding of what my life would have been like, had my parents divorced. I am curious whether i would have grown up happier.
I may be wrong, but i dont think divorce is the thing that causes trauma. It's the relationship between the parents that cause trauma.
if you learn something about someone only after marriage & you decide you don't like it & want a divorce, that means you didn't know them well enough to get married in the first place. DON'T RUSH INTO MARRIAGE!!!!!!
51:25 if you really want to do something we can, if 2 humans really want to make it work then they can
I wish my parents got divorced. My mom always found a reason to stay. It is partially due to her being traumatized by her parents divorce. Partially because my dad has to sides to him. I use to wish that he died when I was younger so the pain he caused me would stop.
@AmethystEyes
I’m sorry that it’s still affecting your life. Find someone to talk to so that you can grow from your pain. Doesn’t have to be a professional. A woman’s group would be good as well. One that follows the 12 step program rules.
agree with Bart to an extent. Divorce shouldn't be so accessible.
Divorce *should* be an option. But I think what needs to be regulated more is getting married. Work out the kinks first like seriously before making a huge commitment
I DID NOT KNOW THEY HAD THEIR OWN UA-cam CHANEL!!! I AM MIND BLOWN
The beginning started funny as fuck ! It must be a good fucken episode!!
53:50 determine which phase of life you’re in
From baby till I was 5 I’ve seen my mum go through divorce and breakups and heart break... I didn’t know if I was coming or going and same with my mum... it was a hard time for us, I’ve seen my mum go through 2 divorces, heart break and fighting, it’s been my life, she was then married from 5 till 15, so 10 years, then after that she found other’s here and their and now she’s happily married but even the first 5 years of my life was unhappy and even growing up it’s been rocky, mine and my mums relationship is strong and good which is a plus side, she’s happily married again now and this time is so much happier and better 💜
Happiness is only temporary
master jackoff not always! Ones you find the one you just know
@@natsjourney6570 trust me. It's only temporary. You buy a new car, it makes happy... Temporary. You win a jackpot in the lottery to last you a lifetime..... It only makes you happy temporarily. Everything in this world is a temporary feeling
@@masterjackoff2047 those are all beause of materialistic things, your base line can be hapiness
@@salmaabdullahgb happiness is still only a temporary feeling. You could feel content with life or with what you have. We all struggle to find the next thing to give us an emotional feeling
If the relationship is truly a terrible fit, then divorce should be an option. Obviously, no one should want to divorce or take divorce too lightly, but if the relationship is toxic, it is better to split up than continue to have a terrible, possibly abusive environment. Divorce may be the lesser-of-two-evils for everyone involved, even for the children.
U2 35:40
having multiple marriages to me is absolutely ridiculous. Unless the person dies
bart hardcore efforts in this 'podcast' to convince Geo to go from a position of pro divorce to pro family
"you will try..." - anakin skywalker to obi wan, star wars episode 3
Can u make a podcast about if u should or should not get back with your partner in the future after they cheated. Talking about like 6+ years
damn.. this is on pt... i am going thru this right now..
I had a heart attack thinking they broke up
YOu should know living in la we all know there is a 50% divorce rate.
Vlogs are way better than podcast
Beaw is a bad name for pod
Fyi to the people in the comments, don't give your advice based off of YOUR experiences. Cause those were yours, not everyone has the same outcome as you.
I have that gut feeling she wants to leave Bart.
I see Casey leaving tiff first before geo leaving bart..
@JKFilmsNewsPartyFan so? He didnt kno bout the shit he would have to deal with tho
KasheMoneyRemix naw if anything, I think Tiff would leave him first.
If they ever get divorced, it's geo that will do it
Monogamous relationships just sets you up for heart break 🤔