When "Once Upon a Time" Made a Sequel to Frozen

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  • Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
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    Once Upon a Time was consistently a ridiculous show that often put its own clever twists on Fairy Tale and Disney Stories, but when Elsa and Anna from Frozen came to town, it felt much more like an ad than a continuation of the TV Show. In this non-canon, live action sequel to Frozen, the two sisters meet their aunt, Elsa's Public Domain Counterpart, The Snow Queen.
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  • @Freezient
    @Freezient 2 місяці тому +1440

    The Frozen characters being the only one keeping their bright cartoony outfits is just so jarring

    • @pedrovallefin8406
      @pedrovallefin8406 Місяць тому +96

      Makes it a little too blatant than having this characters in the show was just a shameless publicity stunt to ride in the Frozen craze of the time and bring as much as possible of that fandom into their audience. Dont think it would have changed much to make their outfits colors more opaque to fit better into the world they were dropping them into, but i guess that was too risky to whoever came with this idea.

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Місяць тому +65

      Right?? Everyone else has outfits that slightly resemble their movie selves, and these guys are just cosplaying

    • @Freezient
      @Freezient Місяць тому +17

      @@pedrovallefin8406 I don’t know, if I was a big frozen fan I’d be so disappointed they didn’t make some effort on alternating their outfits

    • @gisela_oliveira
      @gisela_oliveira Місяць тому +28

      @@genericname2747 that's because they weren' based on disney movies in the beggining, it was just fairytales, that's why there are so many character that aren't in any disney movies (the closest thing we had was Belle's outfits). The Disney properties came in with the Peter Pan storyline, went away with the Zelena plot, sinze Oz is not a disney thing, and then they just dived down again and forever after season 4

    • @Victoria-_
      @Victoria-_ Місяць тому +1

      Ik!

  • @SapphireLibra3
    @SapphireLibra3 2 місяці тому +1418

    I swear, if this show kept going, Sora, Riku, and Kairi would have become protagonists.

    • @AlexHarrison-zv4jj
      @AlexHarrison-zv4jj 2 місяці тому +16

      That would be crazy!

    • @SorasShadow1
      @SorasShadow1 2 місяці тому +76

      tbf Kairi would probably get benched, as is tradition for KH ladies.
      that said....the sheer number of possible KH-specific characters is enough to fill the whole roster and then some, with plenty of soap opera level twists baked in....
      maybe they should've kept going, it would've been great to see some real human actor try to do a Xehanort speech.

    • @DraphEnjoyer
      @DraphEnjoyer 2 місяці тому +56

      Would love to have seen an Aqua cosplayer walk into frame only to immdietely fall down and never get back up

    • @Ziizoe
      @Ziizoe 2 місяці тому +44

      Regina goes evil again for 2 episodes like she does every season and pulls out Sora's heart and he turns into a heartless and gets saved by Kairi's true love's kiss. That checks out for a once upon a time plot

    • @madnessarcade7447
      @madnessarcade7447 2 місяці тому +13

      I would have been down to see an encanto season tbh

  • @pedrofm25
    @pedrofm25 2 місяці тому +1049

    So what I'm getting from these videos is that Once Upon a Time is just adult Descendants

    • @fluffskunk
      @fluffskunk 2 місяці тому +167

      "What if Disney but everyone is a manipulative backstabbing liar?"

    • @septiquaddoubleyou4019
      @septiquaddoubleyou4019 2 місяці тому +71

      So again: Adult Descendants.

    • @Sayitwityachest
      @Sayitwityachest 2 місяці тому +113

      ​@@septiquaddoubleyou4019 lmao descendants came out 5 years after once so more like Descendants is a kidded down version of Once.

    • @loraelizabeth7580
      @loraelizabeth7580 Місяць тому +75

      Really Descendants is just Once Upon a Time for kids😂

    • @shibumi8
      @shibumi8 Місяць тому +10

      Pretty much but without the dance numbers.

  • @Paint_The_Future
    @Paint_The_Future 2 місяці тому +975

    So when the Wicked Witch of the West shapeshifted into Maid Marion and conceived a child with Robin Hood... that's rape, right? We're all in agreement that was rape? Everyone was like "That crafty witch, she's one to look out for." I was like, "She's a rapist."

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 2 місяці тому +68

      I thought that was obvious

    • @serenitynow85
      @serenitynow85 2 місяці тому +198

      That was so uncomfortable. And then they trying to redeem her, because now she's a mom. Horrible
      Omg I forgot she and Regina were sisters. And The Wicked witch slept with Regina's bf lol

    • @Paint_The_Future
      @Paint_The_Future 2 місяці тому +113

      @@ForrestFox626 Obvious to everyone watching the media, obvious to none of the characters *in* the media.

    • @Paint_The_Future
      @Paint_The_Future 2 місяці тому +38

      @NeonPink-lj9qq Oh yeah! Classic Regina antics.

    • @annana6098
      @annana6098 2 місяці тому +50

      ​@NeonPink-lj9qq I remember, think about it every time I think of this show. I choose to retcon it out because it's so close to the beginning, and I just can't go along with the show if she's that kind of person. The wicked witch stays a witch in my opinion, because I feel like the show never successfully pretended that she was forgiven for her crap, everyone just tolerated her to different degrees, so I could continue to hate her and watch the show. She murdered Marion and took her place and committed r*pe by deception with the man whose wife she murdered, and had a baby with him, and then toted that baby around to get sympathy.
      I was hoping she'd redeem herself by dying and Regina could raise Robin's baby.

  • @ratchetxtreme6591
    @ratchetxtreme6591 2 місяці тому +1371

    Part of me is still in genuine disbelief that Disney actually did something like this, it’s just so freaking wild.

    • @San-nj8fj
      @San-nj8fj 2 місяці тому +100

      Wait till you hear about the mobile game where every Disney character ever becomes a handsome gay anime man

    • @weirdotzero7065
      @weirdotzero7065 2 місяці тому +66

      @@San-nj8fj Yeah. You have not lived life until you see Twink Iago designed by the creator of Black Butler.

    • @ladypool1404
      @ladypool1404 2 місяці тому +20

      @@San-nj8fj Your talking about Twisted wonderland right?

    • @San-nj8fj
      @San-nj8fj 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ladypool1404 yup

    • @celestee2264
      @celestee2264 2 місяці тому +16

      What about that mobile game where Dory wears a mech suit

  • @HurricaneDDragon
    @HurricaneDDragon 2 місяці тому +422

    “Warlord Bo Peep” is pretty funny, but I’m sorry, “Emma’s boyfriend, Captain Hook” still takes the cake. 🤣

    • @gutsmasterson2488
      @gutsmasterson2488 Місяць тому +46

      At some point, I just stopped thinking of him as Captain Hook and just thought of him as Killian the Boyfriend.

    • @Jessica_Costantini
      @Jessica_Costantini Місяць тому +6

      yaaass he was my fave 😍 LOL

    • @milk.meister.mcChonky
      @milk.meister.mcChonky Місяць тому

      I had very few crushes as a kid but when I say that HE WAS ONE and it was STRONG-

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Місяць тому +6

      James Hook: Bleh.
      Killian Hook;: Oh no, he’s hot!

  • @intern_dana
    @intern_dana 2 місяці тому +643

    "ive never watched ouat but every clip ive seen is like
    *Quasimodo:* “And where is the amulet?”
    *Edgar from Aristocats:* “Safe and sound I assure you. Isn’t that right, Lightning McQueen?”
    **the sounds of revving comes out of the shadows**
    commercial break"
    ganondilf (tumblr, 2015)

  • @carolkoski4875
    @carolkoski4875 2 місяці тому +515

    The fact that years later the actual Frozen 2 had some of the same plot beats as this season is crazy

    • @softestshade7813
      @softestshade7813 Місяць тому +57

      I was saying the same thing to myself, genuinely curious to know if they used some of this show as inspo????

    • @JeskidoYT
      @JeskidoYT Місяць тому +28

      ​@@softestshade7813I won't be surprised if they were wrote during the same time

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Місяць тому +18

      All that time to refine the plot, and they didn't make it better at all

    • @Nopeasaurus
      @Nopeasaurus Місяць тому +12

      Or it really is a coincidence. I’ve written frozen fanfics before and was surprised when i stumbled upon other works by other authors written years ago who also thought of the same storylines i did.

    • @BelBelle468
      @BelBelle468 27 днів тому +7

      @@softestshade7813 considering the entirety of that movie was rushed, it would make a lot of sense to just utilize a preexisting example of frozen media as the blueprint for the animated sequel.
      I wish more movies would do that. Imagine if Buzz Lightyear movie was based off the tv show and not whatever it ended up being?

  • @oliviaharris408
    @oliviaharris408 2 місяці тому +518

    “That line created 12 jobs” absolutely took me out

  • @CommanderSteelTrap
    @CommanderSteelTrap 2 місяці тому +513

    Man, I love this show and watched it all as it came out, but hearing you describe the plot and all the character connections and relationships sounds like a crack induced fever dream.

    • @desireeportmann8393
      @desireeportmann8393 2 місяці тому +12

      Haha yeah it does

    • @crm7n
      @crm7n 2 місяці тому +48

      i just rewatched it recently (meant to be background noise) and i can fully confirm my brain broke by season 3 when this shit happened

    • @desireeportmann8393
      @desireeportmann8393 2 місяці тому +28

      @@crm7n I love ouat it's one of my favorite shows but some of the story lines are WTF and I have seen all of it

    • @Aros4
      @Aros4 Місяць тому +19

      I honestly think younger me was so powerful because I have no idea how I watched almost every season of this show. Like after the Frozen season I was just watching it because I was already in too deep but nowadays I would just shut down 😭

    • @thecolourfulpill
      @thecolourfulpill Місяць тому +7

      I've started watching it in 2012/13 (I was 12/13yo), and I haven't finished it yet (I'm doing it in small portions), so whenever I do watch it, I start to lose my mind, trying to remember who was whose relative/wtv. It's just verry funny.

  • @Bloodglas
    @Bloodglas 2 місяці тому +383

    if only Nintendo were brave enough to make a Once Upon A Time style show of their IPs so we could see live action Tom Nook collecting house payments from Bowser Jr and Kraid.

    • @moon4236
      @moon4236 Місяць тому +34

      Tom Nook and Redd have to team up to take on Wario and discover that Wario was being mind controlled by magical butterfly waves and the true villain is actually Slippy Toad from Starfox

    • @LucaW.
      @LucaW. Місяць тому +12

      Most of them would be just made into these cloned mr handsome stubble man actors

    • @nikkibrowning4546
      @nikkibrowning4546 Місяць тому +6

      Did you mean Super Smash Brothers?

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Місяць тому +1

      please.

    • @HiperPivociarz
      @HiperPivociarz Місяць тому +3

      Beautiful Creatures, a supernatural romance book series and movie from the time Twilight was very popular, features two characters named Link and Ridley. And they're absolutely named after the Nintendo characters. And they are a couple. And they're my OTP.

  • @botluckproductions
    @botluckproductions 2 місяці тому +196

    "Cursed to Maine"
    So basically, any Stephan King Book.

  • @rowansidhe3239
    @rowansidhe3239 2 місяці тому +698

    Frozen fever was such a thing that at the time the preschool I worked at had to ban “Let It Go,” because if anyone started singing it, the entire classroom would start singing and dancing too, and it would take a half-hour at least to get everyone back on track.

    • @ConnorJG76
      @ConnorJG76 Місяць тому +28

      God, hearing that would just make me wanna let go of a noose

    • @DrawciaGleam02
      @DrawciaGleam02 Місяць тому +19

      *children singing Let it go*
      STOP! STOP!
      Quick, put Barney on the TV!!!
      😆😆😆😆

    • @caesarorzell600
      @caesarorzell600 Місяць тому +8

      It scarred me for life. Thanks Disney.

    • @mr.passionfruit1958
      @mr.passionfruit1958 Місяць тому +3

      That sounds like a nightmare

    • @diversityproductionz
      @diversityproductionz Місяць тому

      well at least it only took 30min to get them baak on track, though right?

  • @Soudrah
    @Soudrah 2 місяці тому +421

    "And I dont need to explain to you that Peter Pan is Rumpelstilskin's dad" actually Billiam.....yes we would

    • @Aros4
      @Aros4 Місяць тому +49

      *deep breath* Peter Pan was a coward and narcissistic man called Malcom which I only know bc Im reading the wiki to fill up gaps I also didn’t remember how’st the fuck this man and child Rumpel ends up in neverland but apparently mans got the magic beans(???) and he yeets Rumpel back to their world because for some reason if he stayed with him Malcolm couldn’t turn into a kid and gain eternal life or something?? Anyways he is peter pan, jack and the beanstalk, and the pied piper and also his sons wife cheated on him with Captain Hook who just so happened to technically be Peter Pans great grandson’s stepfather which means that Hook is as old as Rumpelstilskin and as old or older than Snow White and Prince Charming who are his girlfriends parents which is pretty gross but apparently not that big of a deal

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Місяць тому +19

      In Once Upon a Time, Rumpelstiltskin’s father Malcolm abandoned him as a child to transform himself into a child named Peter Pan and he’s evil

    • @gutsmasterson2488
      @gutsmasterson2488 Місяць тому +9

      Search up the family tree. ABC even has an official image!

    • @pedrovallefin8406
      @pedrovallefin8406 Місяць тому +6

      You could also look up Billiam's previous Once Upon a Time video, he talks at length about that whole Peter Pan insanity in that one.

    • @anth636
      @anth636 Місяць тому +1

      The boy who never grew up had a child?

  • @Dachusblot
    @Dachusblot Місяць тому +235

    The OG Snow Queen story is my favorite fairytale, and I was so pissed when Frozen came out and not a single part of the original story survived except *female character with ice powers.* So when this show brought out the mirror shards that fly into your eye and make you evil, I got all excited like "Hey that was from the original story!" Only for Billiam to say it's dumb. Now I'm questioning all of my life choices. Thanks, Billiam.

    • @pedrovallefin8406
      @pedrovallefin8406 Місяць тому +19

      To be fair, he acknowledged he found it dumb without knowing it wasnt an idea of the show but from the orginal fairy tale. And in the context of the show, it does feel prety dumb. It doesn’t seem like they explained the background of the mirror shards or why do they make people evil, so in the show the Snow Queen aparently can turn people evil with her ice powers in some unexplained way. That does sounds prety dumb. Unless there was some explanation in the show im unaware of? Just to be clear, i never watched it so I wouldn't know. Either way, the show's Snow Queen is hardly a better adaptation than Frozen. Dont think the og Snow Queen was anyone's aunt, nor is Elsa's aunt the queen of the snow bees.
      Frozen does have some elements of the orginal story, just under the surface. In the first half there's Anna looking for her sister who have turned on her and left, like the fairy tale's main character looking for her childhood friend who left after being turned evil by the mirror shard. Seems like the nearly fraternal bond between the main character and her friend was the inspiration, and reason why is the movie main focus, for the sisterly bond between Anna and Elsa. The ending of the movie has Anna saving herself from dying by the ice shard in her heart due to her sibling love for Elsa, akin to how the main character purges her friend of the mirror's influence by the power of her inocent love for him. So, while still a terrible adaptation, Frozen does take some inspiration from the original tale beyond the ice powers, just in a very bare bones way, the broadest of strokes.

    • @hibikuokudan
      @hibikuokudan Місяць тому +11

      THIS IS THE EXACT SAME REASON WHY I DISLIKE FROZEN

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Місяць тому +7

      It was going to be more like the original story, until they made Elsa good and then changed everything.

    • @Nopeasaurus
      @Nopeasaurus Місяць тому +9

      The only things that frozen and the snow queen have in common is 1) an snow queen 2) a evil mirror 3) trolls
      in the fairytale, the snow queen was a morally ambiguous antagonist who kidnaps a child for reasons unspecified but allows him the opportunity to free himself. in Frozen, Elsa is a misunderstood antihero.
      in the fairytale, the mirror was created by the trolls and held up to heaven to mock god and shattered into pieces and fell to earth where it made anyone in contact with it cold and heartless. In Frozen, hans is the mirror. He uses mimicry to manipulate people into trusting him. Its weird that they made the mirror a literal villain when it was created by the trolls but whatever, he wasn’t a good character anyway.
      The trolls in the fairytale were evil incarnate. The trolls in frozen are annoying “love experts” who sing the worst song in the movie. Ugh, I hate them so much.
      In the fairytale, the tears Gerda sheds for Kai are what thaws the ice shards lodged in his body and saves him. The point of the story is that you cant save yourself, only by someone else’s love you can be saved, supposed to be a christian metaphor for christ dying for our sins. In the movie, Anna’s curse is lifted by her own doing. Anna saves Elsa from Hans’ sword, thus fufilling an “act of true love” and lifting the curse. Personally, I hated this since I would have preferred Elsa’s tears is what saved Anna, allowing Elsa to redemn herself as the one who cursed Anna in the first place. But no, Elsa does nothing heroic in the movie.

    • @yooo9480
      @yooo9480 Місяць тому +3

      I've made a fanfic trying to reconcile the original story and the movie before 😭😭

  • @crm7n
    @crm7n 2 місяці тому +378

    just rewatched this show recently and i cannot fathom how i ever thought the plot was genius and well written as a preteen

    • @manuelmialdea5127
      @manuelmialdea5127 2 місяці тому +61

      Hey don't be so hard on yourself, I know someone who still believes it as an adult.

    • @crm7n
      @crm7n 2 місяці тому +51

      @@manuelmialdea5127 this is too funny 😭 i still love watching it for how stupid it is but seriously, i thought it was GOLD somehow at one point

    • @caliburnabsolute8517
      @caliburnabsolute8517 2 місяці тому +20

      I mean, to be fair, you did say you were a preteen.

    • @JustinW332
      @JustinW332 2 місяці тому +28

      I think it what held it back for me was their need to have a convoluted explanation for everything. Even if they had to retcon one in. I think it had potential to be good. But things just kept getting worse after season 1. This could have just been a mini series that ended after the curse was broken. But nope.

    • @kylespevak6781
      @kylespevak6781 Місяць тому +2

      "as a preteen"

  • @user-zf2ru4eq4w
    @user-zf2ru4eq4w 2 місяці тому +365

    I love how Disney actually acknowledged the Snow Queen. Which happened to be what Frozen is based off.

    • @lilithium3940
      @lilithium3940 2 місяці тому +26

      I was familiar with the snow queen story so when I saw what the plot actually ended up becoming I genuinely wondered if they forgot what they were basing it on along the way

    • @TeruteruBozusama
      @TeruteruBozusama 2 місяці тому +20

      Then they got funding from Innovasjon Norge, and chose to rip-off Norwegian stories instead. Yes I'm upset, not only on behalf of the creators of those stories, but each time anything with frozen gets made, be it a movie, juice box, bracelet, or whatever, my tax money goes towards it...

    • @freakyfro99
      @freakyfro99 2 місяці тому

      I would rather have not had Elsa and Anna and just have the Snow Queen.

    • @TheNormExperience
      @TheNormExperience 2 місяці тому +2

      @@TeruteruBozusamawoah, I did not know that!

  • @SnowMart
    @SnowMart 2 місяці тому +140

    This season was wild af but I have to admit, Anna saying “as long as I have this w~a~v~y knife” had me cackling.
    I think they did a decent job of having her be a bit more rationally observant than some of the fairy tale characters. It was def cheesy, but it worked most of the time for me.

  • @kaliek5281
    @kaliek5281 Місяць тому +69

    I think the only character in this show I liked was Rumpelstiltskin. And not even because he was well written or a likeable character. Its just that his actor just DEVOURED THE SCENERY EVERY TIME HE WAS ON CAMERA. We're talking Willem Dafoe levels of scenery eating here! He was only supposed to be a minor character for like only a season or two, but he was so popular cause of how much the actor just fuckin hammed it up that they made him a bigger part of the show (hence him being part of like fuckin everyones stories by S4).

    • @valhatan3907
      @valhatan3907 23 дні тому

      It's Rumpelstiltskin and Regina with me.

  • @wickedfox8470
    @wickedfox8470 2 місяці тому +94

    I remember watching Once upon a Time with my family. We never finished it but i think we got halfway through the frozen arc and never picked it up again lol

    • @sabiyadusk7357
      @sabiyadusk7357 2 місяці тому +13

      Same with my friend and I, she introduced me to the show and we binged up to season four. When the new teaser was shown (featuring Elsa) we just looked at each other in disappointment. I didn't watch it or future seasons so this was a fun video

    • @Nopeasaurus
      @Nopeasaurus Місяць тому

      Yeah i watched the show when i was a child, hooked from the first episode but eventually forgot got bored as the cast got over bloated and the storylines became more and more bizarre: Peter pan is Rumpel’s father? Snow white’s daughter in love with Hook? And then suddenly theyre having a collaboration with disney and suddenly elsa, anna, merida, and mulan are a part of the story. Wow what a shit, overrated show.

  • @rosaliavirus
    @rosaliavirus 2 місяці тому +77

    I remember the Once Upon A Time craze but for some reason I thought the characters were just from generic fairy tales, not the Disney renditions. But it makes sense with it being an ABC show.

    • @tofanpurnomowaisaka503
      @tofanpurnomowaisaka503 2 місяці тому +35

      It actually started as a Grimm's fairy tale show, until Frozen fever. Then it's the Magic Kingdom show.

    • @Dachusblot
      @Dachusblot Місяць тому +32

      It started out with generic fairy tale characters (with occasional random references to things like Frankenstein), but over time it gradually morphed into a giant Disney fanfic that wasn't even trying to hide it anymore.

  • @Elvusmiw
    @Elvusmiw 2 місяці тому +106

    I'll never forget that season finale post credit scene of once apon of time. Seeing a blue blob and it turns into elsa. MOM I WANT LIVE ACTION FROZEN. We have live action frozen at home.

    • @KeybladeMasterAndy
      @KeybladeMasterAndy 2 місяці тому +7

      With the way live action remakes go, this may not be the one at home if Disney ever does make one.

    • @MatecaCorp
      @MatecaCorp Місяць тому

      I can tell you’re joking because children don’t like the remakes

  • @softestshade7813
    @softestshade7813 Місяць тому +61

    Grateful we never got the Star Wars and/or Marvel seasons of this show while simultaniously mourning the Muppets inclusions we could have all enjoyed. Kermit bringing Olaf back to life so they can be together would have been end game for me

    • @Tobylake-jt6gu
      @Tobylake-jt6gu Місяць тому

      Wait were they actually going to do that

    • @colin3ds1
      @colin3ds1 Місяць тому +1

      The muppets would have had me rolling on the floor
      But the implications that their presence would insite would me insane
      Given that the muppets break the 4th wall often and are in universe performers who are also meant to exist in real life and make appearences at events as themselves during things like the game awards

    • @teal_m_101
      @teal_m_101 17 днів тому

      Would they be the actual muppets or human counterparts?

  • @MrXemnas1992
    @MrXemnas1992 2 місяці тому +292

    Everybody owes Kingdom Hearts an apology.

    • @rakino4418
      @rakino4418 Місяць тому +5

      I've played KH3 you can't fool me

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Місяць тому +1

      No.

    • @cheyannegiles9772
      @cheyannegiles9772 Місяць тому +9

      No they don't. Once upon a time makes sense to the fans, it's just crazy, while you'd have to be crazy to understand Kingdom hearts

    • @Xanegoh
      @Xanegoh Місяць тому +2

      Ahahahahahahahahahahah.....
      ...Oh, wait. You were serious? Let me laugh even harder.
      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    • @SandwitchZebra
      @SandwitchZebra Місяць тому

      I mean, those games just created sequels too lmao
      Big Hero 6, The Lion King, Mulan, Monsters Inc, Hercules, all of their stories were semi-official sequels that tended to ignore their actual sequels.
      Lilo and Stitch and Little Mermaid also got prequels while Nightmare Before Christmas had both.

  • @GrecianWarlock
    @GrecianWarlock 2 місяці тому +72

    Honestly tho the Ice Queen and Emma storyline was surprisingly good. It was a total fluke of course but ccmpared to the second half of season 4 and onward, this arc had a lot of heart.

    • @AJ-xc4qe
      @AJ-xc4qe Місяць тому +2

      But it felt like if another ABC show, No Ordinary Family’s second season (in Mr. Turner’s voice: IF THEY HAD ONE!!!!) started its’ first half with a story arc where the Powells team up with Thor and Captain America just because their movies were big hits that summer. And Disney owns both ABC and Marvel. And they’re played by different actors because ABC never could afford to get either of the Avengers to appear in their Marvel shows😂🤣. What happened to subverting fairy tales?

  • @TooCool1993
    @TooCool1993 2 місяці тому +73

    Yaknow part of me is sad OUaT got canceled. We could have gotten may more fun and ridiculous versions of disney stuff. lilo being a witch and creating stich, 22 from soul being Henry's twin brother, Encanto itself would have so much to offer.

    • @angelsartandgaming
      @angelsartandgaming Місяць тому +18

      Oh God I'm already imagining the Encanto season and somehow the Grandfather to Mirabel that died is related to like Peter Pan or something and all of the family has ties.

    • @Little_Eris
      @Little_Eris Місяць тому +9

      I'm also imagining that Rumple would have a plotline with Bruno.

  • @celo7carvalho
    @celo7carvalho 2 місяці тому +37

    Not Billian playing the John Travolta clip to mock the pronunciation after he himself mispronounced Idina 😭😭😭

  • @jaaron92
    @jaaron92 2 місяці тому +366

    The wizard isnt Mickey. Its Yen Sid the sorcerer that mickey took the hat from. Yen Sid is also the guy in kingdom hearts who administers the mark of mastery exam. Btw Yen Sid is just Disney backwards

    • @manuelmialdea5127
      @manuelmialdea5127 2 місяці тому +31

      MY NAME...
      SPELLED BACKWARDS...
      IS DISNEY!!

    • @PlayerZeroStart
      @PlayerZeroStart 2 місяці тому +24

      Okay I believe you

    • @collin4555
      @collin4555 2 місяці тому +58

      He is consistently referred to as The Apprentice, ie, the Sorcerer's Apprentice, which would refer to Mickey in the Fantasia sequence, and would justify the mouse gag. The Sorcerer in Once Upon A Time refers to Merlin.

  • @beepster991
    @beepster991 2 місяці тому +71

    Next season: Buzz, Woody, John Ratzenberger, Sid and Jessie will create new drama as the town deals with an alien invasion and an evil collector hunting old toys. All bets are off with new IP's for new stories.

    • @Aros4
      @Aros4 Місяць тому +4

      Considering they referenced Up it really isn’t far fetched at all but I am also very afraid to look

    • @beepster991
      @beepster991 Місяць тому +4

      @@Aros4 Great! Maybe we'll see a "Moana" reference and a cameo from "The Rock"...

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 Місяць тому +1

      And I thought you were talking about Jessie as in from the Disney Channel sitcom.

    • @pedrovallefin8406
      @pedrovallefin8406 Місяць тому

      @@zjzr08 Who says he wasnt? But even if he was talking about Toy Storys Jessie, that doesnt mean sitcom Jessie couldnt be around too. Im sure the writers of Once Upon a Time would have said "why not both?" and have them connected in some way, like saying one Jessie is a toy cowgirl version of the other or something to that effect.

  • @MrD4rkzero47
    @MrD4rkzero47 2 місяці тому +238

    Man this show is wild they freaking went and made Peter Pan a psychopathic evil villain

    • @bookshelfhoney
      @bookshelfhoney 2 місяці тому +38

      Isn't he also Rumpelstiltskin's dad or am I confused because that show is cuckoo bananas

    • @BroKenYaKnow
      @BroKenYaKnow 2 місяці тому +71

      granted, original peter pan was psychopathic

    • @HybridEpsilon
      @HybridEpsilon 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@bookshelfhoney Yes

    • @toric6005
      @toric6005 2 місяці тому +12

      My favorite line ever Peter Pan be like, oh my great grandson😂

    • @nightengalenorth6881
      @nightengalenorth6881 2 місяці тому +33

      Supposedly, that's not too far off from the actual book, so its a change to the Disney canon I actually find interesting

  • @Draqua
    @Draqua 2 місяці тому +66

    Olaf couldn't be in Once Upon a Time, because he got a cameo in Sofia the First in lieu of Elsa & Anna

    • @pedrovallefin8406
      @pedrovallefin8406 Місяць тому +2

      @NeonPink-lj9qq Lets be honest, mixing them all together wouldnt make the Once Upon a Time universe any less coherent, mainly because it was never all that coherent to begin with.

    • @0deadx21
      @0deadx21 Місяць тому +2

      Olaf was superfluous, and it wasn't worth making a CG model of him.

    • @talentlessartist7929
      @talentlessartist7929 Місяць тому +1

      So what? Disney owns both IPs. There isn’t a cameo limit or anything you know.

  • @EthalaRide
    @EthalaRide 2 місяці тому +30

    16:55 I am 99% sure that Will Scarlet's whole character inclusion and storyarc in that season was SUPPOSED to be for Jefferson/Mad Hatter, but Sebasian Stan became WAY too famous/busy being Winter Soldier in the Marvel movies to do it so they just switched him out for Will instead.
    A expert thief from Wonderland grieving a lost love, finds a friendship-turned-something-more with Belle while she's in a toxic relationship with Rumple. If you watch everything Will does in that show, and think "What if that was Jefferson instead" it makes 1000x more sense.
    Jefferson had already been established as an expert thief (and possible cold-blooded killer, but that was only hinted at), Jefferson is a widower and single father. Jefferson was the person who FREED Belle at the end of the first season and literally sent her to reunited her with Rumple so Rumple would turn his wrath on Regina in revenge for Regina trapping him in wonderland and separating him from his daughter.
    Belle would feel a certain way about Jefferson being the one to free her, and Jefferson could feel some guilt/responsibility for the toxic relationship Belle is in now. There's a lot more LAYERS there.

    • @tripleg12974
      @tripleg12974 Місяць тому +4

      Omg thank you so much for commenting this it explains SO much. I always had questions about where Jefferson’s arc was supposed to go

    • @MsIvalane
      @MsIvalane Місяць тому

      Oh man that really does explain a lot. . .now I'm sad all over again lmao I loved Jefferson

  • @naadeiashie6053
    @naadeiashie6053 2 місяці тому +32

    I remember how worried ppl were when this season came out. I was in middle school and thought they were jumping the shark at this point. But that family tree gets more convoluted each time.

  • @MicheleKlinger
    @MicheleKlinger 2 місяці тому +31

    This storyline was why I was SO CLOSE to quitting this show when it originally aired. OUAT was great when it was just a fairytale mashup. It went too Disney for my taste (said as a proud Disney adult). I officially quit when the Sorcerers Apprentice turned into a mouse 😂

    • @AnitaNewport
      @AnitaNewport 2 місяці тому +2

      Same. It was too much and they didn't even change anything.

  • @spreadhappiness3250
    @spreadhappiness3250 2 місяці тому +62

    The fact that this show made total sense to me , truly a comedic masterpiece

  • @MegaLowShellCastle
    @MegaLowShellCastle 2 місяці тому +134

    This show feels like one long mobile game ad

    • @gutsmasterson2488
      @gutsmasterson2488 Місяць тому +2

      Yes and no. But this was back before the days of gatcha and before many mobile games became trash. And long before Fortnite.

    • @matthew1st
      @matthew1st Місяць тому +6

      @@gutsmasterson2488at some point during the duration of the series, gatcha games definitely became a thing. I’m surprised this show never got a mobile game tie-in, like a build your own storybrooke. Also Fortnite came out in 2017, I believe that was the final season of the series.

  • @yippedoodah
    @yippedoodah Місяць тому +9

    That Tumblr post explaining this show with Lightning McQueen revving his engine as he comes out of the shadows is so accurate.

  • @deedreamerify
    @deedreamerify 2 місяці тому +33

    I truly love how unhinged all video essays etc of this show are, its perfect

  • @sadie9728
    @sadie9728 2 місяці тому +9

    Having watched the show, everything made sense to me, but I cannot imagine going into this blind. "Rumpelstiltskin, who is the beast from Beauty and the Beast, is also the Crocodile who cut off Hook's hand; and I don't have to tell you Peter Pan is his father..."
    😂😂😂

  • @fusetunes
    @fusetunes 2 місяці тому +49

    my theory when the sorcerer hat episode first aired was that they were gonna go meta and literally put walt disney into the show as a character. i wish i was right because it would’ve been so funny

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Місяць тому +13

      August says that “a man called Walt” was a former author

    • @fusetunes
      @fusetunes Місяць тому

      @@matityaloran9157 did they really?? 😭i stopped watching halfway through this season so i only have a vague idea of where all these plotlines went

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Місяць тому +9

      @@fusetunes August says that the book’s authors included “the man who saw shadows dancings on cave walls and created a philosophy” (which would be Plato) and “a man called Walt”

    • @munchrai6396
      @munchrai6396 Місяць тому +5

      @@matityaloran9157 Wow, can't believe I missed all this juicy lore. I love the author idea, but Isaac is just such an uninteresting and whiny character that it completely ruined the payoff for me

    • @thephony1651
      @thephony1651 Місяць тому +1

      @@matityaloran9157I love how the Plato thing is at least kind of vague and mysterious and then the other one is just “his name was Walt”

  • @ryebreadthebread
    @ryebreadthebread Місяць тому +4

    Fun fact they filmed a lot of once upon a time near where I live. I think my dad got to meet some of the actors once just by chance

  • @Akursedtime
    @Akursedtime Місяць тому +16

    The family tree for Henry is like a hodge podge of randomness.

  • @egg6295
    @egg6295 Місяць тому +9

    I watched Once Upon a Time with my mom as a kid and when we saw this, both of us were like “..what 💀”

  • @jhonsmith5093
    @jhonsmith5093 2 місяці тому +36

    I had the same reaction when it first aired.
    "Hey, where is Olaf???" I asked
    "Well, it's a TV show and the modeling needed for a CGI Olaf is expensive and stuff, so they probably couldn't include him, duh." Said a snarky person online.
    And then the Trolls rolled in.
    I'm not saying Olaf would have fixed the show, but he might have made it less painful.

    • @DachenPema
      @DachenPema 29 днів тому

      ua-cam.com/video/zroIp4aILFg/v-deo.html

  • @jeneehaviland5661
    @jeneehaviland5661 Місяць тому +10

    Ooh please cover the Once Upon A Time in Wonderland! No one ever talks about that show and it was ridiculous!

  • @margaridatorres1273
    @margaridatorres1273 Місяць тому +4

    "That line created 12 jobs" 😂😂😂
    I can't 🤣

  • @kestreldomann2787
    @kestreldomann2787 Місяць тому +4

    I'm watching this while on my lunch break and the line "who wants some milk from Mama Mayor!?" Made me stop eating my ramen and walk away for a minute

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 Місяць тому +11

    13:26 You know what they say, "everything changed after the Fire Nation attacked" Olaf obviously being a causality of the evil tyrant with the enchanted flames and Anna fighting in the war.

  • @juliamavroidi8601
    @juliamavroidi8601 2 місяці тому +7

    I wonder if Captain Hook's evil habd is a really deep cut reference to the obscure Grimm's fairy tale The Three Army Surgeons where a character accidentally gets the hand of a criminal replanted instead of his own and it similarly compells him todo crimes or if they just wanted to create some cheap drama

  • @joshuasanderson7359
    @joshuasanderson7359 Місяць тому +5

    Glass that enters your eye and makes you evil is also used in Sailor Moon Sailor Stars 😂

  • @MtchndraLrd
    @MtchndraLrd Місяць тому +4

    This was MY show in middle school, now looking back at it I wish I lived in the alternate universe where I was into Kingdom Hearts instead

  • @loraelizabeth7580
    @loraelizabeth7580 Місяць тому +20

    The frozen storyline was actually my favorite partly because Anna, Kristof, and Elsa felt true to their movie counterparts just a little more grown up for the older audience.
    Also Elsa & Emma bonding over their similar situations was nice because Emma didn’t really have friends. Also also Elsa being team Captain Swan and kinda teasing them about it was great😂

    • @randomperson4710
      @randomperson4710 Місяць тому +3

      Honestly the actors had the frozen characters down pat. They did a fantastic job bringing the characters to life.

  • @DaeZey
    @DaeZey Місяць тому +5

    I love that just describing the show is hilarious.

  • @Sm0k3turt
    @Sm0k3turt Місяць тому +9

    Yeah Elizabeth Mitchell is fucking awesome. Even in this silly role she brings so much reality to it.

    • @earlofbroadst
      @earlofbroadst 24 дні тому +1

      That describes a lot of the characters in this show. Even when the writing is extremely subpar, Robert Carlyle's scenery chewing is a ton of fun to watch.

  • @kristofgriffin384
    @kristofgriffin384 2 місяці тому +40

    I admit, the only reason why I even checked out this show is because they decided to incorporate Frozen into it. I was a big fan of the movie at the time, so seeing Elsa and Anna in live action made me want to see this show.

    • @VicenteTorresAliasVits
      @VicenteTorresAliasVits 2 місяці тому

      What happened?

    • @rainbowdreams341
      @rainbowdreams341 Місяць тому

      this is how I got into the show too

    • @valhatan3907
      @valhatan3907 23 дні тому

      My case was funny, because when I search up about "Once Upon A Time" I actually expect other show with similar premise, then I got into this show. Thinking I was watching the show I looked for.

  • @soren7550
    @soren7550 2 місяці тому +12

    Billiam on about another season of Once, let's fucking GO!

  • @SorasShadow1
    @SorasShadow1 2 місяці тому +15

    part of me is frustrated that nobody's gonna be able to do a similar premise with the public domain versions of these characters, but honestly i don't think any mainstream company would be able to pull it off even remotely well anyway

    • @mttylerdurden9
      @mttylerdurden9 Місяць тому +2

      You mean like FABLES?

    • @earlofbroadst
      @earlofbroadst 24 дні тому

      ​@@mttylerdurden9A Fables TV Show could be awesome if they did it right.

  • @catloaff
    @catloaff 2 місяці тому +20

    Already a certified Billiams classic

  • @StinkyLilGuy420
    @StinkyLilGuy420 Місяць тому +11

    billiam doesn’t like ‘fixer upper’ cause he can’t relate he’s the perfect human specimen

  • @Minkfang
    @Minkfang Місяць тому +3

    I genuinely forgot OUAT existed and my friends and I were OBSESSED with it in 2015

  • @mttylerdurden9
    @mttylerdurden9 Місяць тому +4

    9:25 snow white becomes the mayor of a town of public domain characters? Yeah these guys DEFINITELY read FABLES.

  • @Wonderlandhype
    @Wonderlandhype 2 місяці тому +26

    It was so distracting when Frozen of all things was included on OUAT. The only other stories that tipped it over was Aladdin on s6 and the Princess and the Frog villain on s7. It’s a toss up for me to include Hades and the gods on s5. It’s only because of how recent it was released in comparison to other stories on the show

    • @ItsTommieBoi
      @ItsTommieBoi Місяць тому

      Wait what?! I recently rewatched the show part I did and didn't see when I first watched and fell off.. but my spouse and I didn't watch season 7 cause it was weird with these new people.. but this comment is making me rethink that decision.... 🤔

    • @Wonderlandhype
      @Wonderlandhype Місяць тому +1

      @@ItsTommieBoi don’t…don’t do it. As someone that watched it every Friday night while trying to keep a glimmer of hope that it’ll get better, it did not. I don’t want to spoil it but it’s not it.

    • @ItsTommieBoi
      @ItsTommieBoi Місяць тому

      ​@@Wonderlandhype okay I'll take your word for it haha 😂

  • @havenm6181
    @havenm6181 2 місяці тому +28

    Call me juvenile but the reverb farts are KILLING ME

  • @liamcollinson5695
    @liamcollinson5695 2 місяці тому +9

    One of the strangest things to ever happen to me was when frozen fever was at it's height i went to a hardstyle( hard dance) rave with my friend and a hardstyle remix of let it go was played. It was strange because it was adults only

  • @TindraSan
    @TindraSan Місяць тому +4

    In the original story, the "glass that makes you evil" doesn't technically make you evil, it's more like it gives you a personality disorder lmao
    If a shard hits your eyes then you can only perceive things in a negative light, like it puts an ugly filter on everything, and if a shard hits your heart then you can only feel negative emotions.
    so getting hit in both places can rly fuck up your personality and mental health, but doesn't necessarily make you evil

  • @darkdeifan
    @darkdeifan 2 місяці тому +8

    once upon a time started kinda silly yet quite solid, but got the flu and built a fever so high that would let anyone have it named after them

  • @StellarAvenger
    @StellarAvenger 2 місяці тому +11

    I used to think that season was an unofficial Frozen 2. Hell, people were referring to it as such when it aired.

  • @LucaW.
    @LucaW. 2 місяці тому +33

    Why do some of the guys on this show look nearly identical to each other? That's so confusing

    • @fluffskunk
      @fluffskunk 2 місяці тому +15

      Look identical, act identical... all these rich stories to draw from but it's just a soap opera full of awful people.

    • @Nopeasaurus
      @Nopeasaurus Місяць тому +1

      aint no way rumpelstiltskin and captain hook look identical

    • @LucaW.
      @LucaW. Місяць тому

      @@Nopeasaurus I didn't say all of the guys looked identical.

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Місяць тому

      Well who are you talking about? Arthur? Robin? Neal/Baelfire? Killian? Charming? Hades? Peter? They’re all pretty distinct.
      Maybe you can argue that August/Pinocchio is a similar hotguy to Killian but that’s about it.

    • @LucaW.
      @LucaW. Місяць тому +1

      @@zephyr8072 I don't remember all the names but there were some guys who looked really close to Hook. I'm bad with faces so I have a lot of trouble when actors that are really similar in kind of a general way are all on the same show together

  • @ann-gt4hh
    @ann-gt4hh 2 місяці тому +12

    Thank you for being a Regina/Emma truther 😌

  • @HelenaIsis616
    @HelenaIsis616 2 місяці тому +32

    Personally, I will never forgive this show for throwing Tiana into the last possible season (when the ratings were practically zero) and casting a light-skinned actress to play her.

  • @gars129
    @gars129 Місяць тому +6

    Lana Parrilla going from Evil Queen to just a normal human in Lincoln Lawyer is surreal. Oh and just now realized Anna is Beck from You. I swear she looked older back when I was in my late teens.

  • @morgeduid
    @morgeduid Місяць тому +3

    my crazy old boss was an extra on this crazy show. he stole my tips

  • @BackwardsRiddle
    @BackwardsRiddle Місяць тому +2

    It's wild that this show was referred to me by my father of all people, the most salt of the earth, gritty man I know. He's a big fan of Robert Carlyle and he genuinely enjoyed the premise of the show. We watched it together for a little while, but once the show started exploring more and more convoluted plots, shoehorning in new character left and right, and just leaning into the melodrama and campiness my father fell off quick. I, however, am a life long KH fan so this was right up my ally!

  • @leetri
    @leetri 2 місяці тому +12

    Why were all the Frozen notes and letters written in runes? Frozen takes place in the 1840's, not the 840's. Barely anyone used runes after the 1400's, the Christians made sure of that. Such a weird thing to go out of their way to add.

    • @fluffskunk
      @fluffskunk 2 місяці тому +3

      Because Elsa's straight up doing witchcraft?

  • @deliat7478
    @deliat7478 29 днів тому +1

    I love that the summary of just this one season just KEEPS GOING. It's so accurate😂😭

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 2 місяці тому +4

    I love how crazy this show got and the fact that Disney is linked to it

  • @Kitsune44X
    @Kitsune44X Місяць тому +3

    THANK YOU. People think I'm crazy talking about this semi-sequel much less this show altogether. Nobody remembers it it seems and it drives me nuts because it could have been an adaption of the Fables comics instead.

  • @elizabethbentley2582
    @elizabethbentley2582 2 місяці тому +3

    A lot of the added details actually do play out in frozen 2 so idk if that was intentional or what lol but that actress playing Anna tho!! She really is imbodying the character pretty well like thats her.

  • @TheEnabledDisabled
    @TheEnabledDisabled 2 місяці тому +7

    How have I never heard about 'Once Upon A Time' even when watching so much disney history stuff

  • @nbunnysnowboard
    @nbunnysnowboard Місяць тому +4

    Yessss, just as I was binging OUAT content
    🤜🏻🤛🏻
    The Hans Christian Anderson joke had me squealing 😂

  • @blissful_productions_16
    @blissful_productions_16 Місяць тому +2

    I remember watching frozen two when it came out in theaters and I remember thinking, "wait, this is the same plot twist they used in Once Upon a Time??" Still not over it

  • @astrealbrizbee9815
    @astrealbrizbee9815 2 місяці тому +41

    I feel like there should be a whole video of the problematic plotlines of Once Upon a Time. Zelina would be top of the list with Regina.

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Місяць тому +5

      It would take longer than the entire show

    • @angelsartandgaming
      @angelsartandgaming Місяць тому +7

      I would watch that video. I'm just imagining it being like 20 hours long or something

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Місяць тому +2

      @@angelsartandgaming There’s a one hour UA-cam video on that subject

    • @angelsartandgaming
      @angelsartandgaming Місяць тому

      @@matityaloran9157 oh? By who?

    • @matityaloran9157
      @matityaloran9157 Місяць тому +1

      @@angelsartandgaming Serena Skybourne

  • @Jonathanest90s
    @Jonathanest90s Місяць тому +1

    Frozen Fever is basically the tail end of my childhood nostalgia.

  • @WebbstreMain
    @WebbstreMain Місяць тому +2

    Wow I forgot that I watched this entire season until this popped up in my feed

  • @BillyBadger42
    @BillyBadger42 2 місяці тому

    I have waited for this since I watched my first Billiam video about this show. Now I've seen them all and that's still my favorite series you have ever done. This is amazing! Keep em up Bill

  • @chenwingsee
    @chenwingsee Місяць тому +2

    I had frog's theme as my alarm sound for years so I got confused mid video thinking an alarm went off even tho that's not my alarm sound anymore

  • @colin-halter
    @colin-halter 2 місяці тому +3

    I wasn't ready for Juliette to show up

  • @briar_the.discoyt
    @briar_the.discoyt 2 місяці тому +2

    Please keep going through Once Upon a Time!! I love these videos :)

  • @CrossOutBryce
    @CrossOutBryce Місяць тому +3

    This is how I got a crush on Elizabeth Lail (Anna). The Elsa actress was also in Fringe, my favorite show ever

  • @MsAileenValentine
    @MsAileenValentine Місяць тому

    This arc had been living rent free in my brain for the past couple of days.

  • @HannahwithaH
    @HannahwithaH 17 днів тому +1

    “I love my Helix mattress and I think you would too!” Strange pick up line, but okay!

  • @aisadal2521
    @aisadal2521 2 місяці тому

    So happy to see a follow-up to your first OUAT video, Billiam!!! 😍😍😍

  • @IAmBlindProphet
    @IAmBlindProphet Місяць тому +3

    Mr. Billiam sir, could you please spare another video on this trash fire show?
    I originally dropped out of watching it after season three back in the day but man I am loving the retrospectives on how bad it got. I really hope you keep taking us through it bc there is no way I could ever pick it back up to see for myself

  • @antiheroine3611
    @antiheroine3611 Місяць тому +1

    I loved Will Scarlet! That Knave was so charming.

  • @user-nl8xo2xq4w
    @user-nl8xo2xq4w 2 місяці тому +3

    sociopath Elsa shrugging off someone freezing right in front of her💀

  • @muggle4real
    @muggle4real 18 днів тому +1

    When I heard the "enchanted forest" on F2 I was like "excuse me??😳😳"

  • @terraventusaqua123
    @terraventusaqua123 Місяць тому +1

    I didn’t even notice that Olaf wasn’t in the season until Billiam pointed it out…

  • @gulorful8488
    @gulorful8488 Місяць тому +3

    I think its funny how people insist that disney forced the showrunners to include them when the exact opposite happened. The showrunners loved the movie so much they asked disney if they could crossover with it which is so funny to think about.

    • @loveandwar007
      @loveandwar007 Місяць тому

      My guess is that a Snow Queen arc was always planned and the showrunners just kinda threw the Frozen characters in while they were writing it after the movie came out. Given how long the process takes and how quick the turnaround was, it makes the most sense.

  • @onikaosborne4788
    @onikaosborne4788 Місяць тому +1

    “So many things in this show make you somebody’s slave” 😭😭😭😭

  • @TwiggehTV
    @TwiggehTV 2 місяці тому +7

    1:45 Tiddies squished so hard her sternum grew a hole