"I want you to highlight Blaze Kick real quick, cause this kick, it *burns* with a royal purple flame! This one's for you, tag-team combo! INFERNO PHANTOM LIMB, INCO-" [flinched by fake out]
That bit is the single funniest thing I have seen in years. And poetic that the risky player dies to bad luck in the end but somehow it wasn’t related to a HJK miss (fake out crit into blaze kick whiff, ouchie)
@@athenaraines its even funnier when you realize he probably wouldve died anyway cause i doubt blaze kick wouldve killed😭 couldve just brick break'd, but i respect the acting incredibly
That Cradily serving in the Cold War and the Hitmonlee missing the blaze kick after his speech then getting punished are definitely the best characters in this run 😂😂😂😂
Ah, I totally forgot it learns flamethrower as a level up move. As of SM flamethrower is only an evolution move so finding it randomly wouldn't help til you can use the move relearner.
I think it's hilarious that he said they were getting clowned on by the game when they encounter Altaria/Tracey, and Tracey made her character a literal clown
PC at the beginning of the video: I understand that the point is to not sack the friends. PC a third of the way into the video: you should be sacking your friends
I mean, at the end of the day, he can't help but analyze the correct plays for a Nuzlocke, and honestly? I'm glad for it, cuz it helps knuckleheads like me get the point that sometimes sacking is the play.
Monsters always has the best bits. Borat Grumpig never fails to make my sides implode on themselves despite me finding the actual Borat movies’ humor hit or miss for me. And while Pete’s cutaway gags were a little intrusive sometimes, it culminated so perfectly with Pete’s heel-face turn after the final party wipe, and Monsters didn’t undercut Pete’s character growth with a gag, he was completely serious from that point forward while staying in character, which I think deserves a lot more credit than it gets from Friendlocke fans. Like, Monsters is a really talented improviser. On a side note about Monsters, this is two Friendlocke’s that Monsters has managed to be in the Hall of Fame for despite being probably the least experienced with Pokémon in the group. And I’m sure Onee is super salty that she’s never managed it once considering how well versed in Pokémon she seems to be.
You know. If I had a nickel for everytime cradilliy was thought of as death trash, then turned out to be the absolute unit needed to win a run, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's strange that it happened twice.
@@FlareBlitzBanana no but absolutely this? Get him a guru character who always gives confident advice and just fucks with them with it instead. "No guys stay in. They aren't playing around the crit"
@@FlareBlitzBanana "Gastrodon has Ice Beam, that Roserade stands no chance, just stay in" "Nah, don't delete Leer, Ember's not that important" "Yooo, a Fire Stone, perfect for Eevee!" "No way he'll crit you now" "It's fine, he got sturdy (in a pre Gen 5 game)" "Use Dig against that Garchomp to dodge Earthquake" "Bidoof? Useless, just don't waste your Pokéball on that" "No i wouldn't bring the Ground Type to the Electric Gym, that Lanturn got Bubble Beam"
"I've spent so much of my life chasing the dollar sign I never got the chance to make any friends, but the comradery I've felt over the past few months has been nothing less then priceless I can't really put a price on it. Me and the surviving 6 are going to do some amazing work" Pete Ness (Monsters) 2022.
I skipped to that part of the video to see what you were talking about and I got a REALLY good laugh out of seeing “Leader Clay sent out Palpitoad!” I was mind blown that Prankster Leech Seed paid off and Farfetch’d didn’t die against Excadrill only for that text to pop up. 😂😭
So, story time (there's a "skip wall of text" point later down if you don't wanna read all of this, and a summary of the plan is in a reply to this comment). [SPOILERS] 44:21 After that Ghetsis loss happened live and the stream ended (with the announcement that a rematch stream would occur later), I did some research. I figured that if I could come up with a surefire plan to get Salty through the Ghetsis fight with the remaining team members he had, that'd take some stress off of his shoulders (he looked VERY stressed about the pressure of the Friendlocke), ensure a happy ending, and perhaps inflate my own ego a bit. I didn't want to be like the other backseat gamers, though- I wanted to distinguish myself by creating a plan that was SURE to work, that didn't assume that anything was "probably" the case. So after the stream, I pumped Salty's stream bot for information. Even though chat was on 1 minute slowmode, I used the bot's commands to collect information about all of the exact IVs, EVs, natures, levels, and movesets of the remaining six team members, compiling that information into an image that contained all of their stat blocks. I then dug up the enemy trainer data that speedrunners of Pokemon Black had compiled for their runs, giving me the exact IVs, EVs, levels, and, most importantly, natures, for Ghetsis's team. Using these and Pokemon Showdown's gen 5 damage calculator, I was able to determine exactly how much damage any move from either side would do, and use that to simulate possible fight plans. And from there, I began planning. As I was running these calculations, however, I realized something extraordinary. By complete coincidence, each of Ghetsis's 'mons could be consistently dealt with with ease by a different member of Salty's remaining team. And because Salty was playing on switch mode instead of set mode (he can switch 'mons for free after each kill), this gave rise to an opportunity. What if, instead of merely ensuring that the fight was won, I instead ensured that EACH member of Salty's team of ""rejects"" could 1v1 and defeat a member of Ghetsis's team? No longer would Hannah or Pastey feel useless! Everyone could contribute! The poetry, it rhymes! And so, over the next ~9 hours, I compiled a ~15 page long Google document: "How to Have Each Member of the Black Friendlocke’s Final Party 1v1 a Member of Ghetsis’s Team and Win at Just Level 56: A Guide". Everything had worked out perfectly. No unusual overleveling or x-item usage was necessary, there were some strats that were only possible due to unique quirks of Salty's party (natures and the like) and journey so far (like his item randomizer breaking halfway through the game), and all of the strats were either 100% consistent or had backup strats that would still win Salty the fight with near-100% consistency. I had screenshots of damage calcs for each section, haha funny jokes and images, explanations as to why X works but Y wouldn't, the works. I want to link it so badly, but I think UA-cam will bury my comment if I do, so I'll just summarize it in a reply. I had assembled the document, but it would be useless if it wasn't able to be seen. Since Salty was taking a break from Twitter, I instead sent the plan to one of the other members on the team (I forget who). After receiving no response, I tried submitting it to the art account as a "work of literature". Still no response. In hindsight, I was probably treated as a bot by Twitter due to dm'ing links to people with a Twitter account with like two posts on it, but at the time, I thought I had been ignored. I didn't want to press much further though, since I feared that that'd be pretty stalker-ish. **[skip wall of text]** And so, the day of the final stream came around. The moment I saw the team, I knew that Salty was not going to follow my guide, which disappointed me immensely. After he issued his callout about backseating near the start of the rematch stream, though, I realized something: I had had fun making my step by step plan, and I don't regret making it at all, but it was probably for the best that Salty never saw it (or that if he did see it, that he wouldn't follow it). I think that following someone else's guide would've taken away from that victory and made it less exciting behind the scenes. At the end of the day, the Friendlocke was about the Pokemon (er, Salty's friends) making the most of the decisions, not Salty or some randos from chat, and having everyone follow a coordinated guide was kind of the antithesis of that. Salty and co. didn't NEED my backseating to make a good conclusion to this story, and I'm glad that they were able to win this fight without it (although I'm sure they'd have found a good way to spin the ending even if they had lost/gotten a downer ending).
1v1 summaries: Sara vs. Cofagrigus: Sara coincidentally hard counters Cofagrigus, as it's meant to be a Toxic staller, but Sara is immune to Toxic due to being a Poison-type. The only it move it has that can even affect her is Shadow Ball, which does well under 20% of Sara's max HP due to her resistance to it. The fight is basically just spam Night Slash and win, with healing items being poppable if needed. Amusingly, Cofagrigus's Mummy ability would temporarily suppress Sara's Stench ability, which would've been a cute moment for her (it happened in the actual fight too, although I don't remember if anyone noticed). Pastey vs. Seismitoad: An Energy ball from Pastey is guaranteed to outspeed and OHKO Seismitoad... but ONLY if Pastey is holding an Expert Belt (or a damage multiplying item of equal or greater strength). The 'mon who's been move-screwed this whole game finally gets to use the one good move they did have access to to dunk on the 'mon who finished off the A-team. Poetry! Pete Ness vs. Eelektross: Energy Ball -> Energy Ball -> Moomoo Milk -> Repeat. Pop a hyper potion and start from the beginning if Pete gets crit. Pete can even win this fight with consistency while holding an Amulet Coin, which would've been funny. Hannah vs Bisharp: With the 1.5x power boost from Hustle, a 1.3x Life Orb boost, AND a 4x effectiveness multiplier, Brick Break just BARELY OHKOs Bisharp, and Hannah thankfully outspeeds Bisharp. However, Hustle gives Brick Break a 20% chance to whiff, which would result in Hannah's instant OHKO'ing... unless Bisharp ALSO whiffs its Stone Edge, which should be the only move it'll see a kill with if Hannah is at full health. Thus, IIRC, the near-optimal play was to Substitute -> Brick Break repeatedly while praying. Fortunately, even if Hannah missed and got owned, Crustle had a 100% consistent strat for dunking on Bisharp via the copious usage of healing items (heal until it runs out of all 5 of its Stone Edge PP, then alternate healing and attacking, healing twice in a row if you get crit on a heal turn). Tracey vs. Bouffalant: Cotton Guard (a move that gives +3 def) from a move tutor turns Bouffalant into Flats the Flounder, with Substitute preventing it from KO'ing with a lucky crit. If Bouffalant crits a head smash on turn 1, Tracey can die, but otherwise, they'll be too fluffy/squeaky to die. Of course, the Fowwest vs. Bouffalant backup strat exists (gotta play around the crit) and is pretty similar to the Bisharp one. Fowwest vs. Hydreigon: Hydreigon was one of the reasons why I made my guide. It has a +speed nature, meaning that Salty's Twitch bot would've actually LIED to him (and everyone in chat) about its speed. It's scarily fast, and it hits like an absolute truck. Fortunately, Fowwest has an absolutely busted singleplayer ability: Sturdy. By learning Shell Smash from a move tutor, they can Shell Smash turn 1, avoid being OHKO'd by crit Surf, and one-shot Hydreigon with X-Scissor. Interestingly, due to its +Speed nature Ghetsis's Hydreigon is actually fast enough to outspeed Fowwest AFTER A SHELL SMASH unless Fowwest is level 56+, even though Fowwest ALSO has a +Speed nature (which was VERY fortunate). At the time I initially wrote the guide, I had recommended a Rocky Helmet for Fowwest for backup strat purposes, but thinking about it a bit more, it isn't actually needed for those backup strats. A Rawst Berry (NOT a Lum Berry, since the Bouffalant backup strat could've proc'd it early) would've been optimal, I believe, to avoid the possibility of Fire Blast chosen+hit+crit+burn (all on one move) being able to kill through Sturdy. If Fowwest isn't at full health for the Hydreigon fight due to a backup strat, then Salty would've needed to spam heal until Hydreigon missed a coverage move or ran out of PP... or sac a team member or two to get a turn to heal Fowwest with, which would've made for some nice drama.
Fun Fact, Salty actually had Voice Actor Dana Snyder record voice lines for a soundboard so he could "voice" Giratina on stream. Through Cameo or something similar I believe (btw he voice acted Gazpatcho in Chowder and a bunch of other stuff)
9:45 the only exception to this is USUM because there’s like four separate areas that are counted as route one but have vastly different encounter tables. It’s up to you whether or not you play it like that though.
I think he wants to bring in all pokemon even if they were not good because they are represented by their friends and wants to give all of them some screen time
And I think even more than that, the fact that there’s a voice to the mon makes it easier for sentiment to take over. Hence why Jay was ever brought out for any fight ever.
I think there may have also been a hidden challenge to this type of nuzlocke that I just thought about.. his team comp couldn't just be whoever he wanted at whenever he wanted because if certain people had things to do, like as some people have lives and all that... he couldn't exactly have them on the team right? so that may have been the reason his team comp was so wonky? I could be wrong of course but it's still something to think about
I think it was mostly him just not wanting to box his friends for too long, since they were all actively waiting in a separate call for the time they would be summoned. So it was more so an anxiety thing of not wanting to be an ass making your friends sit in call waiting for a turn. There were times he couldn't use people or had to box them early due to irl stuff, but this wasn't the main cause. These streams ran for 3+ hours and sometimes hit 6 hours, so it makes sense that most of them were prepared to be on for long.
i know that with coach cos specifically, the solo run was to sac her bc she was struggling health wise at the time and didn’t know if she’d be able to be available for the last stream? but idk about much else, i guess he wanted to make sure everyone had equal screen time
*Pauses the video: I'd argue Skuntank's a solid encounter. While I prefer Drapion or Alolan Muk, it's still got a solid defensive typing and can hit most things for at least neutral damage with STAB. Stench is actually pretty good for the flinch chance, Aftermath could be decent if you're forced to sack it and it has a nice range of coverage from the moves it can learn.
the thing i love so much about the friendlocke is how its not played ike a serious nuzlocke. the way salty describes it as a mix of pokemon and d&d is so on point, and in particular its like a d&d campaign with a focus on rp rather than powergaming which imo makes it even more entertaining. the juxtaposition between that and your genuinely educational advice makes these reaction vids so great and so much fun! i cant wait for you to do another when season 3 eventually happens! also god i love the limited 3d they used for this game. its so charming
here's my work for if skuntank is a good encounter: based on the evidence seen in the video at 11:53 streamer man says that skuntank is a good encounter so therefore it is a good encounter
I think it's a bit understated how RIDICULOUS Kringo was in this run. He had Sheer Force after evolving, and the item randomization (that broke and reverted to vanilla item locations partway through the run) let Salty get an early Life Orb and early Earthquake. Life Orb's recoil damage, but not its power boost, is negated if Sheer Force's effect is applied to a move (but does not on its own qualify a move for the Sheer Force boost). Fire Punch and Flare Blitz both have a % chance to burn the 'mons you use them on, so Sheer Force applies to them. Fire Punch's effective base power was 75 (base) * 1.5 (STAB) * 1.3 (Life Orb) * 1.3 (Sheer Force) = approx. 190, and Flare Blitz's effective base power was approximately **304**. I forget whether or not Kringo ended up using Flare Blitz, but still, Fire Punch alone was enough to one-shot basically everything he encountered.
One thing I always liked about these videos is it's not just Nuzlocke advice, but also general game advice that you give. Thank you for these, they're real entertaining!
Another benefit of the "sac another 'mon to heal Lopunny" play would've been that the speed drop would be cleared- even if you didn't get a healing item off, Lopunny would still be able to move before 'drill and KO it.
So happy to see you review season 2. I watched through most of the vods and then watched the edited ones through with my friend. One of the best series on UA-cam. Thanks for introducing me to saltys content in the first review.
Probably one of the best and funniest nuzlocke vids had a blast watching this reaction and I loved the little skits Salty did he really puts a lot of effort in his vids
I love that Jan had to be told by Salty that he isn't going to sacrifice his friends for the optimal play lol. When I watched the season 1 reaction I thought he was doing a bit by treating it as a regular nuzlocke but I guess that was not the case, he really only saw the hard cold numbers.
There is something fitting that the two people who survived in both seasons (Monsters and Sara) got a pokemon that isn’t too terrible (Hannah, Oni, Gabi) or strong pokemon with exploitable weakness (Gerber, Kringo Fuk, Luke strwr) and also the MVP of the Ghetsis fight
38:28 I was actually about to comment that Giritina could've used hex cause the when the opponent has a status effect it doubles Hex's special attack... But the reason I say "WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT TO COMMENT" is because even with hex it probably wouldn't do enough to kill Zekrom, not to mention Zekrom unlike Giritina has a dragon type move and in gen 5 hex only has 50 base power where as in the current generation which is gen IX, it does 65 base power
Fun fact: if Salty's Giratina had the minimum IV's for 217 HP (14 HP IV's), 0 SpDef IV's, a -SpDef nature, and at 193 HP; and if Hydreigon had a +SpAtk nature; there was exactly *one* non-crit Dragon Pulse roll that would kill Giratina, and it got it, lmfao Edit: looks like I'm wrong and it was most likely just a crit (with Hydreigon actually having a +Speed nature). Whoopsie doodle!
That can't be what happened, since Ghetsis's Hydreigon has a Timid nature. I'm pretty sure the hit was a crit, since they skip over that part of the text. Much more likely as well.
@@ThePyroPM I did some tests, it seems to consistently have a speed higher than 127. Tbf, I don't know that it's Timid specifically, but I think Gen V is the first generation where they give the trainer pokemon actively beneficial natures, so Timid would make sense. Boss trainers have always had fixed natures, but in Gen III and IV the nature isn't necessarily a useful one (eg Cynthia's Garchomp is always Quirky, Crasher Wake's Gyarados is always Lax, etc, there's a full data dump for Platinum on pastebin so we know these ones for sure).
@@TheCR155 I see, that makes sense. Watching back it does just cut straight from the damage dealt to the text of Giratina fainting, so it probably was a crit if Hydreigon is +Speed. I guess I just find it a bit odd that Salty and co didn't react to it being a crit, lol
With gift or static encounters. I tend to change the rule based on the game. If there are only a couple here and there I'll typically allow it. But something like renegade platinum where they are thrown at you left right and centre I use PCs rules.
11:35 Skuntank seems to be an okay encounter for earlygame. It has great attack, but has few good physical moves and just fine defenses. Could do better, could do worse.
Skuntank's a good encounter. Bulky, and its only weakness is Ground. The only thing that gives me pause is I remember Stunky not getting good moves for the longest time? I'm not sure how that carries over to a low-level Skuntank. Regardless, it'll get moves eventually, and take hits until then.
Skunktank is a great encounter due to a single type weakness, solid move coverage and enough bulk to survive in the right scenarios. Obviously gets wrecked against ground types or mons with good ground coverage but if it's coming down to that play you're already in a world of trouble.
I liked the party wipe not full wipe thing cuz that made me genuinely surprised. I was looking at tje playlist and the videos, going, "they cant die here thered no way", and then they died. The surprise made the grief real, enjoable experience.
Cradily was always my favourite fossil mon as it was my first ever one in Emerald but my god, that thing does what Ferrothorn does but waaaay before Ferrothorn even existed its crazy tbh. Ingrain, suction cups toxic stall was astonishing with giga drain for even more recovery felt unstoppable against everything pretty much.
I think when it came to Joe the Lampent dying to a pursuit, part of the problem was that (if i remember correctly), Salty and the team were fsr under the impression Purrloin and Liepard were normal types so ig they just didn't see ti coming
10:00 For your encounter ruling on hatching eggs, how would you rule it on cities where you otherwise have no opportunity to catch or receive a gift pokemon (Oreburgh City in Gen 4, for example). Is it a fair encounter to go to cities without encounters, to purposely hatch your eggs in those cities?
I'm gonna say skuntank is a good encounter. Really good defensive typing only weak to ground, decently stated and access to toxic and night slash. Bad ability though in aftermath
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Same here
Doesn't work Jan
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Jan: "Its hard to make me laugh, I have a very specific kind of humour"
10 Seconds before: "My dick hurts"
*Jan dying*
That’s what I thought
God I love the limited 3D they use for this game. It's so charming.
I hate the limited 3d they used for this game. It's so infuriating.
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“When do you think someone is going to die? Probably at Clay.”
Oh he couldn’t be more right.
cries
So glad they canceled him
@@Tacobookseeing clay and that menace BooBoo get cancelled by salty really warms my heart
"I want you to highlight Blaze Kick real quick, cause this kick, it *burns* with a royal purple flame! This one's for you, tag-team combo! INFERNO PHANTOM LIMB, INCO-" [flinched by fake out]
“S H I T”
"how did you fuck that one up so hard"
"MIKEYDEEZ, BABY!!"
That bit is the single funniest thing I have seen in years. And poetic that the risky player dies to bad luck in the end but somehow it wasn’t related to a HJK miss (fake out crit into blaze kick whiff, ouchie)
One of the saddest and funniest deaths in the vid
@@athenaraines its even funnier when you realize he probably wouldve died anyway cause i doubt blaze kick wouldve killed😭 couldve just brick break'd, but i respect the acting incredibly
I have never seen Jan laugh this hard at a nuzlocke video, glad to see he likes Salty’s humor
Glad to see he has emotions
I can’t believe Jan has emotions, im glad he’s is not real
i guess you could say its charming.......
Lol, Alpharad should do a reaction video of this reaction video
@@Loaves_of_Cat but.... why???? It's not even his video (the friendlocke)
The fact Al Pacino and Adam Sandler claimed two kills over Salty's team is never not funny to me
The fact they lost more friends to Al Pacino and Adam Sandler than they did to N its hilarious
Not only did they claim two kills, but they then proceeded to kill one another. Really shows their dedication.
He said "I did love Saurkraut, that's really sad." in a bored voice! He actually almost got attached to a pokemon sorta!
Oh buddy, you're gonna LOVE Pchal's current arc lmao he loves these little pixel friends
That Cradily serving in the Cold War and the Hitmonlee missing the blaze kick after his speech then getting punished are definitely the best characters in this run 😂😂😂😂
Cradily saw some shit, man.
their names are Pete Ness and Mikey Deez.
Mikeydeez baby!!!
Pete Ness and MIKEYDEEZ*
*MIKEYDEEZ* got punished for doing a raw ultimate
Jan struggling when Lopunny is mentioned ever: "I know what I have to do but I dont know if I have the strength to do it."
My man is trying not to piss off the Lopunny fans, they’ll have his head if he said some bad about it.
@@ronaldvexdian2182 I think they'd rather have Lopunny's head, if you know what I'm sayin'
@@mattardis you are straight up a furry
@@mattardis yes fbi, this comment over here
@@SleepLessThan3 Maybe the most cringe comment a person can make. On the same level as "so much this"
Skunktank is a good encounter because it has solid coverage with flamethrower, only 1 weakness in ground, and decent bulk.
Also in diamond and pearl it can shoot fire out of its ass.
Ah, I totally forgot it learns flamethrower as a level up move. As of SM flamethrower is only an evolution move so finding it randomly wouldn't help til you can use the move relearner.
Fighting as well
@@pumlved Just ground. Poison resists fighting.
oh man that really sucks because i found a full odds shiny stunky in legends arceus but somehow lost it to a glitch
I think it's hilarious that he said they were getting clowned on by the game when they encounter Altaria/Tracey, and Tracey made her character a literal clown
Hitmolee's anime moment getting literally clapped by Fake Out has me dead at work! 🤣🤣🤣
I just saw that and it was hilarious!!!
Dumb liepard! (I can’t remember from the streams, it was a liepard, and Mikey then missing a blaze kick and getting murdered, right?)
@@skygazer6082 yeah, it was revenge because Joe (the lampent) died to a Liepard before that which kind of makes it funnier
MIKEY DEEZ BAYBEEEEEEEEE
47:04 Jan having to say “fowwest” is too funny to me
PC at the beginning of the video: I understand that the point is to not sack the friends.
PC a third of the way into the video: you should be sacking your friends
Yep
I mean, at the end of the day, he can't help but analyze the correct plays for a Nuzlocke, and honestly? I'm glad for it, cuz it helps knuckleheads like me get the point that sometimes sacking is the play.
You missed the part where Salty accidentally cancelled Dream
That wasn't included in the normal videos/compilation and it was given it's own video
the line about the bloodshed of the Cold War solidified Pete Ness as my favorite member of this run LMAO
Monsters always has the best bits. Borat Grumpig never fails to make my sides implode on themselves despite me finding the actual Borat movies’ humor hit or miss for me. And while Pete’s cutaway gags were a little intrusive sometimes, it culminated so perfectly with Pete’s heel-face turn after the final party wipe, and Monsters didn’t undercut Pete’s character growth with a gag, he was completely serious from that point forward while staying in character, which I think deserves a lot more credit than it gets from Friendlocke fans. Like, Monsters is a really talented improviser.
On a side note about Monsters, this is two Friendlocke’s that Monsters has managed to be in the Hall of Fame for despite being probably the least experienced with Pokémon in the group. And I’m sure Onee is super salty that she’s never managed it once considering how well versed in Pokémon she seems to be.
@@EmileeAria413 gotta be honest didn’t read it
Also the Ram Ranch cutaway gag with Tracey interrupting it solidified both as my favorites. It’s a shame Jan cut it out from his reaction.
@@EmileeAria413 I didn't really consider that. Onee got #rekt with kriketune, though XD
You know. If I had a nickel for everytime cradilliy was thought of as death trash, then turned out to be the absolute unit needed to win a run, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's strange that it happened twice.
This friendlocke and jaiden and jacob's soullink has really made me love cradilly so much, how is it that this mon always ends up being so iconic
I wanna see Jan in the next season that would be SO funny
I’d love to see him give extremely bad advice on occasion just to see if they take it
@@FlareBlitzBanana you absolute deviant I love it
@@FlareBlitzBanana no but absolutely this?
Get him a guru character who always gives confident advice and just fucks with them with it instead. "No guys stay in. They aren't playing around the crit"
@@FlareBlitzBanana "Gastrodon has Ice Beam, that Roserade stands no chance, just stay in"
"Nah, don't delete Leer, Ember's not that important"
"Yooo, a Fire Stone, perfect for Eevee!"
"No way he'll crit you now"
"It's fine, he got sturdy (in a pre Gen 5 game)"
"Use Dig against that Garchomp to dodge Earthquake"
"Bidoof? Useless, just don't waste your Pokéball on that"
"No i wouldn't bring the Ground Type to the Electric Gym, that Lanturn got Bubble Beam"
@@bastianschuck5455 Jan would slowly but surely die on the inside as the series goes
Him: death fodder?
Salty:we dont trade lives here captain
You should never skip Pete's speech after the first Ghetsis fight.
"I've spent so much of my life chasing the dollar sign I never got the chance to make any friends, but the comradery I've felt over the past few months has been nothing less then priceless I can't really put a price on it. Me and the surviving 6 are going to do some amazing work" Pete Ness (Monsters) 2022.
WAİT THAT WAS MONSTERS!? YOU MEAN LİKE THE BORAT THE SPOİNK FROM BACK İN SEASON 1???
@@greenthepokemontrainer3358Yes it is.
As a swiss dude, the "Grüezi" caught me so off guard. Im still laughing and probably skipped back 20 times at this point.
As an exchange student that lived in Switzerland it was a nice feeling of nostalgia ❤️
As a Romanian dude who watches swiss streamers, saying "Grüezi" is usually a 50k points reward.
What does Grüezi mean?
@@johnsonbaroncaveler6634 its a way of saying hello in swiss german. Its like greetings.
German here, did the same thing. I was surprised haha
In one of the videos he even says „1, 2, deine Mudda saugt mein Teil“ and THAT was interesting😬😂
i love every time the party gets excited about a new encounter and jan's like "eeeeeeh that sucks"
I know there’s only been two, but it really feels like a Friendlocke season isn’t complete without Jan reacting.
Yeah
It’s how I found Salty and the Friendlocke myself honestly.
@@nenshoufox same. Jan is to blame for my hyperfixation.
fr jan was not ready for this season 😩😩😩
Man Jan should be in the next season
Skuntank is a decent Pokemon that is given a bad rep for being both only in Diamond, and being overshadowed by Drapion.
It's honestly a great Pokemon, it may be weaker than Drapion overall but it's a lot more versatile
one thing i learned with pokemon white is you dont F with darumaka, you either kill or you run from it
Seriously those things are a fucking menace mid game
@@InfiniteAura a fire punch will 50% anything at that point in b/w
@@angelotorres1 I've had multiple pokemon get one shotted by those things using fire punch, it is a force to be reckoned with
RIP to Gamer the Sandile he died to this mf
@@InfiniteAura 75 Bp stab which is huge mid game + 90 base attack + hustle is deadly
The "Infernal Phantom limb" bit gives me chills every time
Oh my god I cannot wait for what he thinks about the clay fight
Hashtag clay is over party
Hashtag MIKEYDEEZBABY
I skipped to that part of the video to see what you were talking about and I got a REALLY good laugh out of seeing “Leader Clay sent out Palpitoad!” I was mind blown that Prankster Leech Seed paid off and Farfetch’d didn’t die against Excadrill only for that text to pop up. 😂😭
So thank you! 😂
You should definitely check out season 3 of the friendlocke. It's honestly so exciting and amazing and awesome and other adjectives
Season 3 has some of the saddest deaths I have ever seen
@@laggerman3193 season three has some of the deaths ive ever seen
Jan will love Billy Hader
Gungaginga?
It is a very explosive season.
So, story time (there's a "skip wall of text" point later down if you don't wanna read all of this, and a summary of the plan is in a reply to this comment). [SPOILERS]
44:21
After that Ghetsis loss happened live and the stream ended (with the announcement that a rematch stream would occur later), I did some research. I figured that if I could come up with a surefire plan to get Salty through the Ghetsis fight with the remaining team members he had, that'd take some stress off of his shoulders (he looked VERY stressed about the pressure of the Friendlocke), ensure a happy ending, and perhaps inflate my own ego a bit. I didn't want to be like the other backseat gamers, though- I wanted to distinguish myself by creating a plan that was SURE to work, that didn't assume that anything was "probably" the case.
So after the stream, I pumped Salty's stream bot for information. Even though chat was on 1 minute slowmode, I used the bot's commands to collect information about all of the exact IVs, EVs, natures, levels, and movesets of the remaining six team members, compiling that information into an image that contained all of their stat blocks. I then dug up the enemy trainer data that speedrunners of Pokemon Black had compiled for their runs, giving me the exact IVs, EVs, levels, and, most importantly, natures, for Ghetsis's team. Using these and Pokemon Showdown's gen 5 damage calculator, I was able to determine exactly how much damage any move from either side would do, and use that to simulate possible fight plans. And from there, I began planning.
As I was running these calculations, however, I realized something extraordinary. By complete coincidence, each of Ghetsis's 'mons could be consistently dealt with with ease by a different member of Salty's remaining team. And because Salty was playing on switch mode instead of set mode (he can switch 'mons for free after each kill), this gave rise to an opportunity. What if, instead of merely ensuring that the fight was won, I instead ensured that EACH member of Salty's team of ""rejects"" could 1v1 and defeat a member of Ghetsis's team? No longer would Hannah or Pastey feel useless! Everyone could contribute! The poetry, it rhymes!
And so, over the next ~9 hours, I compiled a ~15 page long Google document: "How to Have Each Member of the Black Friendlocke’s Final Party 1v1 a Member of Ghetsis’s Team and Win at Just Level 56: A Guide". Everything had worked out perfectly. No unusual overleveling or x-item usage was necessary, there were some strats that were only possible due to unique quirks of Salty's party (natures and the like) and journey so far (like his item randomizer breaking halfway through the game), and all of the strats were either 100% consistent or had backup strats that would still win Salty the fight with near-100% consistency. I had screenshots of damage calcs for each section, haha funny jokes and images, explanations as to why X works but Y wouldn't, the works. I want to link it so badly, but I think UA-cam will bury my comment if I do, so I'll just summarize it in a reply.
I had assembled the document, but it would be useless if it wasn't able to be seen. Since Salty was taking a break from Twitter, I instead sent the plan to one of the other members on the team (I forget who). After receiving no response, I tried submitting it to the art account as a "work of literature". Still no response. In hindsight, I was probably treated as a bot by Twitter due to dm'ing links to people with a Twitter account with like two posts on it, but at the time, I thought I had been ignored. I didn't want to press much further though, since I feared that that'd be pretty stalker-ish.
**[skip wall of text]**
And so, the day of the final stream came around. The moment I saw the team, I knew that Salty was not going to follow my guide, which disappointed me immensely. After he issued his callout about backseating near the start of the rematch stream, though, I realized something: I had had fun making my step by step plan, and I don't regret making it at all, but it was probably for the best that Salty never saw it (or that if he did see it, that he wouldn't follow it). I think that following someone else's guide would've taken away from that victory and made it less exciting behind the scenes. At the end of the day, the Friendlocke was about the Pokemon (er, Salty's friends) making the most of the decisions, not Salty or some randos from chat, and having everyone follow a coordinated guide was kind of the antithesis of that. Salty and co. didn't NEED my backseating to make a good conclusion to this story, and I'm glad that they were able to win this fight without it (although I'm sure they'd have found a good way to spin the ending even if they had lost/gotten a downer ending).
1v1 summaries:
Sara vs. Cofagrigus: Sara coincidentally hard counters Cofagrigus, as it's meant to be a Toxic staller, but Sara is immune to Toxic due to being a Poison-type. The only it move it has that can even affect her is Shadow Ball, which does well under 20% of Sara's max HP due to her resistance to it. The fight is basically just spam Night Slash and win, with healing items being poppable if needed. Amusingly, Cofagrigus's Mummy ability would temporarily suppress Sara's Stench ability, which would've been a cute moment for her (it happened in the actual fight too, although I don't remember if anyone noticed).
Pastey vs. Seismitoad: An Energy ball from Pastey is guaranteed to outspeed and OHKO Seismitoad... but ONLY if Pastey is holding an Expert Belt (or a damage multiplying item of equal or greater strength). The 'mon who's been move-screwed this whole game finally gets to use the one good move they did have access to to dunk on the 'mon who finished off the A-team. Poetry!
Pete Ness vs. Eelektross: Energy Ball -> Energy Ball -> Moomoo Milk -> Repeat. Pop a hyper potion and start from the beginning if Pete gets crit. Pete can even win this fight with consistency while holding an Amulet Coin, which would've been funny.
Hannah vs Bisharp: With the 1.5x power boost from Hustle, a 1.3x Life Orb boost, AND a 4x effectiveness multiplier, Brick Break just BARELY OHKOs Bisharp, and Hannah thankfully outspeeds Bisharp. However, Hustle gives Brick Break a 20% chance to whiff, which would result in Hannah's instant OHKO'ing... unless Bisharp ALSO whiffs its Stone Edge, which should be the only move it'll see a kill with if Hannah is at full health. Thus, IIRC, the near-optimal play was to Substitute -> Brick Break repeatedly while praying. Fortunately, even if Hannah missed and got owned, Crustle had a 100% consistent strat for dunking on Bisharp via the copious usage of healing items (heal until it runs out of all 5 of its Stone Edge PP, then alternate healing and attacking, healing twice in a row if you get crit on a heal turn).
Tracey vs. Bouffalant: Cotton Guard (a move that gives +3 def) from a move tutor turns Bouffalant into Flats the Flounder, with Substitute preventing it from KO'ing with a lucky crit. If Bouffalant crits a head smash on turn 1, Tracey can die, but otherwise, they'll be too fluffy/squeaky to die. Of course, the Fowwest vs. Bouffalant backup strat exists (gotta play around the crit) and is pretty similar to the Bisharp one.
Fowwest vs. Hydreigon: Hydreigon was one of the reasons why I made my guide. It has a +speed nature, meaning that Salty's Twitch bot would've actually LIED to him (and everyone in chat) about its speed. It's scarily fast, and it hits like an absolute truck. Fortunately, Fowwest has an absolutely busted singleplayer ability: Sturdy. By learning Shell Smash from a move tutor, they can Shell Smash turn 1, avoid being OHKO'd by crit Surf, and one-shot Hydreigon with X-Scissor. Interestingly, due to its +Speed nature Ghetsis's Hydreigon is actually fast enough to outspeed Fowwest AFTER A SHELL SMASH unless Fowwest is level 56+, even though Fowwest ALSO has a +Speed nature (which was VERY fortunate). At the time I initially wrote the guide, I had recommended a Rocky Helmet for Fowwest for backup strat purposes, but thinking about it a bit more, it isn't actually needed for those backup strats. A Rawst Berry (NOT a Lum Berry, since the Bouffalant backup strat could've proc'd it early) would've been optimal, I believe, to avoid the possibility of Fire Blast chosen+hit+crit+burn (all on one move) being able to kill through Sturdy. If Fowwest isn't at full health for the Hydreigon fight due to a backup strat, then Salty would've needed to spam heal until Hydreigon missed a coverage move or ran out of PP... or sac a team member or two to get a turn to heal Fowwest with, which would've made for some nice drama.
The comment still got buried sadly
the giratina guy's scratch impression is literally spot on i was dying of laughter
Fun Fact, Salty actually had Voice Actor Dana Snyder record voice lines for a soundboard so he could "voice" Giratina on stream. Through Cameo or something similar I believe (btw he voice acted Gazpatcho in Chowder and a bunch of other stuff)
I got master shake vibes
@@PenguinMafia336 im pretty sure it was the actual voice actor for them
@@tinycrisp4455 it was Master Shake’s va
9:45 the only exception to this is USUM because there’s like four separate areas that are counted as route one but have vastly different encounter tables. It’s up to you whether or not you play it like that though.
I think this is true for SM as well
I think he wants to bring in all pokemon even if they were not good because they are represented by their friends and wants to give all of them some screen time
And I think even more than that, the fact that there’s a voice to the mon makes it easier for sentiment to take over. Hence why Jay was ever brought out for any fight ever.
I think there may have also been a hidden challenge to this type of nuzlocke that I just thought about.. his team comp couldn't just be whoever he wanted at whenever he wanted because if certain people had things to do, like as some people have lives and all that... he couldn't exactly have them on the team right? so that may have been the reason his team comp was so wonky? I could be wrong of course but it's still something to think about
I think it was mostly him just not wanting to box his friends for too long, since they were all actively waiting in a separate call for the time they would be summoned. So it was more so an anxiety thing of not wanting to be an ass making your friends sit in call waiting for a turn. There were times he couldn't use people or had to box them early due to irl stuff, but this wasn't the main cause. These streams ran for 3+ hours and sometimes hit 6 hours, so it makes sense that most of them were prepared to be on for long.
i know that with coach cos specifically, the solo run was to sac her bc she was struggling health wise at the time and didn’t know if she’d be able to be available for the last stream? but idk about much else, i guess he wanted to make sure everyone had equal screen time
@@owoowo9782 oh i actually didnt know that, interesting
*Pauses the video:
I'd argue Skuntank's a solid encounter. While I prefer Drapion or Alolan Muk, it's still got a solid defensive typing and can hit most things for at least neutral damage with STAB. Stench is actually pretty good for the flinch chance, Aftermath could be decent if you're forced to sack it and it has a nice range of coverage from the moves it can learn.
the thing i love so much about the friendlocke is how its not played ike a serious nuzlocke. the way salty describes it as a mix of pokemon and d&d is so on point, and in particular its like a d&d campaign with a focus on rp rather than powergaming which imo makes it even more entertaining. the juxtaposition between that and your genuinely educational advice makes these reaction vids so great and so much fun! i cant wait for you to do another when season 3 eventually happens!
also god i love the limited 3d they used for this game. its so charming
sauerkraut and Pete Ness are the best characters imo. I love them so much.
Mikey top tier tho
35:06 This entire bit is the best part of the entire series in my eyes.
This one definitely has more that he can comment on than the first season
The reveal of the starters is my fav part. The absolute worst starters with no attacking moves 🤣
here's my work for if skuntank is a good encounter:
based on the evidence seen in the video at 11:53 streamer man says that skuntank is a good encounter so therefore it is a good encounter
I think it's a bit understated how RIDICULOUS Kringo was in this run. He had Sheer Force after evolving, and the item randomization (that broke and reverted to vanilla item locations partway through the run) let Salty get an early Life Orb and early Earthquake. Life Orb's recoil damage, but not its power boost, is negated if Sheer Force's effect is applied to a move (but does not on its own qualify a move for the Sheer Force boost). Fire Punch and Flare Blitz both have a % chance to burn the 'mons you use them on, so Sheer Force applies to them. Fire Punch's effective base power was 75 (base) * 1.5 (STAB) * 1.3 (Life Orb) * 1.3 (Sheer Force) = approx. 190, and Flare Blitz's effective base power was approximately **304**. I forget whether or not Kringo ended up using Flare Blitz, but still, Fire Punch alone was enough to one-shot basically everything he encountered.
*Inferno Phantom Limb* is by far one of the best lines I’ve ever heard 😂
One thing I always liked about these videos is it's not just Nuzlocke advice, but also general game advice that you give. Thank you for these, they're real entertaining!
Another benefit of the "sac another 'mon to heal Lopunny" play would've been that the speed drop would be cleared- even if you didn't get a healing item off, Lopunny would still be able to move before 'drill and KO it.
Him talking about skuntank:
Just one weakness wich is not comon
Earthquake: *HOLD MY BEER*
So happy to see you review season 2. I watched through most of the vods and then watched the edited ones through with my friend. One of the best series on UA-cam. Thanks for introducing me to saltys content in the first review.
Probably one of the best and funniest nuzlocke vids had a blast watching this reaction and I loved the little skits Salty did he really puts a lot of effort in his vids
I love that Jan had to be told by Salty that he isn't going to sacrifice his friends for the optimal play lol. When I watched the season 1 reaction I thought he was doing a bit by treating it as a regular nuzlocke but I guess that was not the case, he really only saw the hard cold numbers.
Tbf, this video doesn’t really work as an educational resource if he doesn’t say the optimal play
I LITERALLY WAS JUST THINKING YESTERDAY WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO REACT TO THIS! YOU JUST MADE MY DAY LOL
There is something fitting that the two people who survived in both seasons (Monsters and Sara) got a pokemon that isn’t too terrible (Hannah, Oni, Gabi) or strong pokemon with exploitable weakness (Gerber, Kringo Fuk, Luke strwr) and also the MVP of the Ghetsis fight
I’d put skunktank as a good encounter. Poison dark only has one 2x weakness to ground, which you can easily pivot flying types in on.
In two years I don’t think I’ve ever heard jan laugh as much as these scenes with sourkrout
38:28 I was actually about to comment that Giritina could've used hex cause the when the opponent has a status effect it doubles Hex's special attack...
But the reason I say "WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT TO COMMENT" is because even with hex it probably wouldn't do enough to kill Zekrom, not to mention Zekrom unlike Giritina has a dragon type move
and in gen 5 hex only has 50 base power where as in the current generation which is gen IX, it does 65 base power
Fun fact: if Salty's Giratina had the minimum IV's for 217 HP (14 HP IV's), 0 SpDef IV's, a -SpDef nature, and at 193 HP; and if Hydreigon had a +SpAtk nature; there was exactly *one* non-crit Dragon Pulse roll that would kill Giratina, and it got it, lmfao
Edit: looks like I'm wrong and it was most likely just a crit (with Hydreigon actually having a +Speed nature).
Whoopsie doodle!
That can't be what happened, since Ghetsis's Hydreigon has a Timid nature. I'm pretty sure the hit was a crit, since they skip over that part of the text. Much more likely as well.
@@TheCR155 I thought the natures were random? How do you know it's Timid? Not doubting you, just curious
@@ThePyroPM I did some tests, it seems to consistently have a speed higher than 127. Tbf, I don't know that it's Timid specifically, but I think Gen V is the first generation where they give the trainer pokemon actively beneficial natures, so Timid would make sense. Boss trainers have always had fixed natures, but in Gen III and IV the nature isn't necessarily a useful one (eg Cynthia's Garchomp is always Quirky, Crasher Wake's Gyarados is always Lax, etc, there's a full data dump for Platinum on pastebin so we know these ones for sure).
@@TheCR155 I see, that makes sense. Watching back it does just cut straight from the damage dealt to the text of Giratina fainting, so it probably was a crit if Hydreigon is +Speed. I guess I just find it a bit odd that Salty and co didn't react to it being a crit, lol
@@TheCR155 kind of unrelated but why does Ghetsis’s Hydreigon and timid at the same sentence feels ironic
Him at 5:00 It's actually kinda hard to make me laugh"
also him at 4:44
With gift or static encounters. I tend to change the rule based on the game.
If there are only a couple here and there I'll typically allow it.
But something like renegade platinum where they are thrown at you left right and centre I use PCs rules.
I love in this how Jan is just enjoying the story and not giving a shit about the bad plays
New encounter:
„Hi, I‘m Brayden, I am a former good friend of Jacob and I am highly suicidal.“
11:35 Skuntank seems to be an okay encounter for earlygame. It has great attack, but has few good physical moves and just fine defenses. Could do better, could do worse.
I can’t wait for season 3 to come out so Jan can watch Gerber cook
:)
Gerber really cooked more than a Pokemon literally called “Da Cheff”
Skuntank's a good encounter. Bulky, and its only weakness is Ground. The only thing that gives me pause is I remember Stunky not getting good moves for the longest time? I'm not sure how that carries over to a low-level Skuntank. Regardless, it'll get moves eventually, and take hits until then.
Skunktank is a great encounter due to a single type weakness, solid move coverage and enough bulk to survive in the right scenarios. Obviously gets wrecked against ground types or mons with good ground coverage but if it's coming down to that play you're already in a world of trouble.
13:16 money well spent 😂
I liked the party wipe not full wipe thing cuz that made me genuinely surprised.
I was looking at tje playlist and the videos, going, "they cant die here thered no way", and then they died.
The surprise made the grief real, enjoable experience.
That reaction to lopunny was hillarious
He was more nervous then pirple cliffe
Cliffe just comits to the bit xD
35:21 - 35:36 might just be my favourite Nuzlocke moment outright. 😂👌
14:16 “oooooo, balls, salty”
"MIKEY DEEZ BABY!"
best part
I love MikeyDeez so much but his death cracks me up every time
OMG this was the only friendlocke i watched! good thing this is the one you're watching 😅
Watch the other one, it’s absolutely worth it
We can always count on Sauerkraut to touch the coldest of hearts.
“Reminds me of the time I went to Coachella”
UA-cam: *gives ad for coachella*
Jan would probably have a field day with doto doyas and seereax’s soulocke
Yes. Yes. We need this
Skuntank seems like a good encounter, poison/dark is a good typing plus it learns Flamethrower
Watched this a few weeks ago, and my sides have still not recovered from laughing so hard
You should check out Season 3!! It’s really intense the entire way through the run
To be fair, thier starter was kinda cracked and carried the run.
🙃
Except in the filler episode but fortunately Forest dies at the end so it got exciting again
I mean, Skuntank is notorious for being an early run ender in platinum, so I can only assume it'll be great here too
37:40 That was a good Master Shake impression from ATHF. For anyone who knew they heard that voice from somewhere, but didn't know exactly where.
its not an impression that's straight up the guy who voices him, salty got a cameo for him to say all the giratina lines
Cradily was always my favourite fossil mon as it was my first ever one in Emerald but my god, that thing does what Ferrothorn does but waaaay before Ferrothorn even existed its crazy tbh. Ingrain, suction cups toxic stall was astonishing with giga drain for even more recovery felt unstoppable against everything pretty much.
I go static encounters as one and done seperate from the route so you can still fish or headbutt in the starting town and get an encounter for it
The fact he guessed clay would cause deaths…
26:39 😂 officially love Pete
God i love the limited joke formats used in these comment sections. Its so charming!
I think when it came to Joe the Lampent dying to a pursuit, part of the problem was that (if i remember correctly), Salty and the team were fsr under the impression Purrloin and Liepard were normal types so ig they just didn't see ti coming
10:00 For your encounter ruling on hatching eggs, how would you rule it on cities where you otherwise have no opportunity to catch or receive a gift pokemon (Oreburgh City in Gen 4, for example). Is it a fair encounter to go to cities without encounters, to purposely hatch your eggs in those cities?
Not Jan, but I think people usually use cities for catching eggs in that exact purpose. That way you don't lose a route encounter.
Why isn't anyone talking about Dana Snyder as giratina? Master shake as giratina is not something I knew I needed
That Clay reaction was gold.
Jan hitting me with the "grüezi" was really unexpected. It made me really happy as a swiss man
"I haven't seen this much death since I served in the Cold War."
*literally dead*
How did you fuck this up so bad?
MIKEYDEEZ, BABYYY
Dwebble being called healing stall fodder makes me sad. I have a crustle tattoo. It's my favorite mon
Skunktank's typing, bulk and move pool are pretty amazing. I'd say it's a great encounter
I'm gonna say skuntank is a good encounter. Really good defensive typing only weak to ground, decently stated and access to toxic and night slash. Bad ability though in aftermath
"Skuntank is a pretty good encounter"
YOU DAMN RIGHT!
Skuntank good encounter cus dark type and they my favorites. Also cuz poison darks a solid combo defensively. Good switch into anything except ground
It's great seeing PC watch a Nuzlocke that actually hits his sense of humour frequently.
I can't wait for you to react to the entire over 5 hour video of the Pokemon Violet friendlocke
That Hitmonlee vs Liepard bit was DRAMATIC