I remember the first time I came in from the "cold" to my first CCR meeting. I remember the first time the leaders put their hands on my shoulders and encouraged me to call on the Jesus who was right there. I remember the love and the simple joy. I remember the feeling of freedom from inhibitions when babbling on tongues - like a baby. I remember being able to talk about Jesus without inhibition. I remember the greeting of Brother Bracken of the Blessed Sacrament Order at Saint France's church in Melbourne in 1973. Thank God for the CCR.
I love this so much. I am a Pentecostal christian currently in RCIA to convert to the Catholic church. I am so inspired by this history. I want so much to see the church united in Christ and I believe that a deep devotion to the Holy Spirit is the way to unity in the church in our day! God bless you Sr!
Welcome home brother! You're right, and I will add that the most powerful expression of unity is found in the Eucharist; for it was at the breaking of the Bread that the disciples on the way to Emmaus recognized Him.
At 17 I left the true church through the Catholic charismatic movement. Tongues, he I g services , prophecy movement. 35 yrs later I returned to the true church and the true baptism of the Holy Spirit received at my water baptism Sacrament. Fr. Ripperger’s academic Lectures on this movement is something to study. Grateful to be back home after mixture of Protestant Pentecost spirits giving one any emotional experience you want to keep you from truth
question, When you were traversing the different experiences in the catholic charismatic and the protestant charismatic, did you at any time get born again? most people go through this spiritual experiences which target emotions and many end up hurt, disappointed and spiritually damaged having not gotten the real truth. many go for power and miracles but not necessarily to seek God and Christ as the only saviour and way to the Father.
If you read the 1st chapter of the Acts of the apostles, you have a charismatic movement. The Church was founded on these principles. To deny this is to deny the Church that Jesus founded. Of course humans can distort this as they always have done. I too find some of the music, etc, to resemble protestant ways, but this is only a semblance, as they do not have the Eucharist, they do not have the Blessed Sacrament, they do not have the sacraments, and we do. The charisms of the Holy Spirit are very real. I have been living with them for more than 30 years, and I have to say it has been an amazing journey. It brings Life, it makes the Father a true friend, It makes us realize that we are the very eyes, mouth, ears, hands and feet of Jesus. That is the very definition of a disciple of Jesus. You can argue that this came from protestants, but the Acts of the Apostles say differently. Person of the Roman Catholic Church tries and is trying to bury it, even as its leadership is supplicating for a new Pentecost. Anyone that says that the Holy Spirit is not for this age is not of the catholic Church. We are in the end times.
The locutions to Elizabeth Kindleman, a humble, sick, uneducated Hungarian woman were from Jesus and Mary. Mary asked for prayers to her immaculate heart asking for the flame of love to pour out into the entire world. It’s to flood us like the first Pentecost. Powerful rosary! It’s for these times. Check it out. Flame of love ❤️
Everyone has forgotten David du plasie . He was the main influence on the catholic charismatic renewal. Particularly pope paul. Many bishops ,cardinals were baptised in the spirit. Early 60s
@@alhilford2345 yes spirit within, but spirit upon is needed for service. After all that is what confirmation is all about. What matters is we walk in His power, not just talk about it. We can claim we have something , but its better to demonstrate it.
I have no doubt we can experience interior graces from the Holy Spirit, or being “filled with the Holy Spirit”. And I can’t bring myself to judge other people’s claims of their experiences. But I have a REALLY hard time believing that a true renewal of the Spirit wouldn’t also lead those outside of the Church to come home.
I attended a Pentecostal University where I was taught this history and there is a dark side to this unfortunately. Charles Fox Parham was a racist who believed in Spiritual Israelism and William Seymour was there at his bible school in Topeka before the Azusa Street Revival broke out and Seymour was made to sit out in the hallway because he was a Black American. After Azusa there were three denominations that formed. The Church of God in Christ is the only one of the three that still remains and the earliest forming of the Assemblies of God in Texas and Arkansas was brought under the umbrella of the COGIC as the Church of God in Christ with "white" in parentheses after it.
Ahhh this is a bit of a "woke" revisionism with some half-truths. You have omitted so many things. Here's some of them: Parham lived in Jim Crow times. He may have had racist tendencies, or he may have just been trying to be cautious. Lots of Catholic churches were segregated at that time - same with the puritan protestant churches. Were they all racist too? The pentecostal movement is documented for "washing away racist colour lines" as white and black worshipped together. Early Pentecostal streams - Wesleyan and Reformed both impacted the early teachings and culture of the movement. Some segregation re-emerged again. Is that because of Pentecostalism or because of the Reformed and Wesleyan influence? Or because of the prevailing times? Sorry, none of the other churches were any better.
9:32 what about the lost years of Christ? How did he gain the experience and wisdom to teach a perfect ministry? And when he says all the prophets before him does that mean Judaism alone? Confusius is the "oldest known text" that teaches the golden rule.
Baptism is supposed to cause a person be born again. The priest performs water baptism and God in his love and mercy is expected to bless the person to become his child. As per the Bible, the baptised people received the holy spirit when the apostles had laid their hands on them. Thus, Catholics are expected to receive the holy spirit when the Bishop administer the sacrament of confirmation. Receiving the person of the holy spirit and receiving the gifts of the holy spirit are two different things. People should not get confused over this. Baptism of the holy spirit is supposed to occur during water baptism which causes spiritual rebirth. Outpouring of the holy spirit during renewal movements may be viewed as gifts.
The Catholic Charismatic Movement is an embarrassing farce - it's nothing more than an imitation of evangelical Protestants, the lunatic fringe of Christianity.
Bl. Elena would be appalled at the goings on in the "Catholic" Charismatic Renewal. Since when did the Catholic Church endorse going to the Protestants for spirituality? I grew up in the CCR and it is 100% dangerous to the faith. I found the true Catholic faith (and spirituality) in spite of the CCR and all the impious insanity it promotes by staying close to Tradition, Our Lady and the Rosary. I highly recommend getting a copy of "Catholic Pentecostals" by Kevin Ranaghan to examine for yourself how anti-Cathoilc and dangerous this movement is. I can't think of a better way to shove young Catholics out of the Catholic Church and into Protestantism (or just out of the Church, period) than supporting the CCR, and all the ecu-maniacal, hippy-dippy-1960's-flower-child-feel-good-peace'n'love-felt-banners-and-guitars shenanigans it promotes.
Sorry Murphy but you sound protestant in that response. The Vatican decides these things - dangerous teachings, interpretations etc and they decide and judge on these matters. So far they have been receptive and even cautiously encouraging of it. Today, there are 300 million charismatic catholics. I think you've lost already. You sound like the catholic version of John McArthur.
8:00 ◄ Mark 7:8 ► Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
The "charismatic spirit", the love proceeding from the Father and the Son, has been in the Catholic Church since the beginning, year 33AD. It's known as the Blessed Trinity. This lady's talk is only proving that the Charismatic Movement is a Protestant confection that can lead ignorant Catholics away from the true Church.
@@birdeyes200 didn't the Pharisees consider Christ a heretic as well? What's there to combat if we're supposed to love and be faithful in our own endeavors? Heresy is only an unpopular opinion in English definition. Was Christ a heretic? Love, acceptance, and understanding of our fellow creation is what I think and hope Christ was chasing.
14:54 if science hasn't proven genetically, atomically, and elementally that we're family nothing else will. Even the big bang theory was written by a Catholic priest. One Father one Earth. We all don't come from Noah? Why would Christ preach Matthew 5:28 Why was he against fornication? How did the world repopulate? And I know you don't follow politics, but politics has left me wondering why parents don't consider themselves paired together.
this is the word that should be used. Hiding under the dome of the rock is a place where the highest levitical priests had their sacraments. Try out that word instead of baptism lol im·mer·sion /iˈmərZH(ə)n,iˈmərSH(ə)n/  See definitions in: All Education Christian Astronomy noun the action of immersing someone or something in a liquid. "his back was still raw from immersion in the icy Atlantic Ocean" deep mental involvement. "his immersion in Jewish culture" a method of teaching a foreign language by the exclusive use of that language, usually at a special school.
13:25 he doesn't use them. Those are his favorite lol Patience. Calm cool and collected Don't say use them. Even be a servant has a bad connotation today lol
Do not be deceived. Worship God. Get out from any religion praying to images. Praying to Mary. Accept Jesus as your Lord and savior and pray to God like God's son did, Jesus prayed to God but God does not need to pray to anyone.
Anti biblical and anti historical my friend. The blessed mother and the martyrs and saints intercede for us to the almighty as we are members of the Church established by the lord Jesus
You are sadly misled my friend. The one true church was established by Jesus and is acclaimed by the angels, saints and matyrs. Sola scripture and sola fide are obvious recent inventions which are vexing many@@renatahuster4861
Does this mean that, historically speaking, what we now know as the Pentecostal denomination, began from this "charismatic" movement in the Catholic church?
I remember the first time I came in from the "cold" to my first CCR meeting. I remember the first time the leaders put their hands on my shoulders and encouraged me to call on the Jesus who was right there. I remember the love and the simple joy. I remember the feeling of freedom from inhibitions when babbling on tongues - like a baby. I remember being able to talk about Jesus without inhibition. I remember the greeting of Brother Bracken of the Blessed Sacrament Order at Saint France's church in Melbourne in 1973. Thank God for the CCR.
I’m a Catholic Charismatic! Praise God!✝️❤️🕊️
I love this so much. I am a Pentecostal christian currently in RCIA to convert to the Catholic church. I am so inspired by this history. I want so much to see the church united in Christ and I believe that a deep devotion to the Holy Spirit is the way to unity in the church in our day! God bless you Sr!
Welcome home brother!
You're right, and I will add that the most powerful expression of unity is found in the Eucharist; for it was at the breaking of the Bread that the disciples on the way to Emmaus recognized Him.
Absolutely! Thank you for this very important reminder. @@el-sig2249
Wonderful blessed explanation Sr!
God Bless you.
IAM asking the PARACLETE to fill this crisis of faith with his LOVE and Mercy !
I love this so much!! Thank you, sister. Blessed be God forever! Amen.
I love ccrm
At 17 I left the true church through the Catholic charismatic movement. Tongues, he I g services , prophecy movement. 35 yrs later I returned to the true church and the true baptism of the Holy Spirit received at my water baptism Sacrament. Fr. Ripperger’s academic Lectures on this movement is something to study. Grateful to be back home after mixture of Protestant Pentecost spirits giving one any emotional experience you want to keep you from truth
question, When you were traversing the different experiences in the catholic charismatic and the protestant charismatic, did you at any time get born again? most people go through this spiritual experiences which target emotions and many end up hurt, disappointed and spiritually damaged having not gotten the real truth. many go for power and miracles but not necessarily to seek God and Christ as the only saviour and way to the Father.
Thank you Rev & Sister!! God bless you!! Amen 🙏 Thank you Jesus for the Holy Spirit 🙏 ❤
Thank you for sharing your Joy and Enthusiasm ! :-)
If you read the 1st chapter of the Acts of the apostles, you have a charismatic movement. The Church was founded on these principles. To deny this is to deny the Church that Jesus founded. Of course humans can distort this as they always have done. I too find some of the music, etc, to resemble protestant ways, but this is only a semblance, as they do not have the Eucharist, they do not have the Blessed Sacrament, they do not have the sacraments, and we do. The charisms of the Holy Spirit are very real. I have been living with them for more than 30 years, and I have to say it has been an amazing journey. It brings Life, it makes the Father a true friend, It makes us realize that we are the very eyes, mouth, ears, hands and feet of Jesus. That is the very definition of a disciple of Jesus. You can argue that this came from protestants, but the Acts of the Apostles say differently. Person of the Roman Catholic Church tries and is trying to bury it, even as its leadership is supplicating for a new Pentecost. Anyone that says that the Holy Spirit is not for this age is not of the catholic Church.
We are in the end times.
Yes!!! Love this so much
Thank you. Brings back memories
I didn’t even know there was a charismatic movement in the Catholic church
The locutions to Elizabeth Kindleman, a humble, sick, uneducated Hungarian woman were from Jesus and Mary. Mary asked for prayers to her immaculate heart asking for the flame of love to pour out into the entire world. It’s to flood us like the first Pentecost. Powerful rosary! It’s for these times. Check it out. Flame of love ❤️
Thank you. Wonderful message!
Beautiful presentation Sister
Everyone has forgotten David du plasie . He was the main influence on the catholic charismatic renewal. Particularly pope paul. Many bishops ,cardinals were baptised in the spirit. Early 60s
Everyone who has been baptized in the Catholic Church is already baptized in the Spirit, the Holy Ghost!
There's no need for a separate 'baptism'.
@@alhilford2345 yes spirit within, but spirit upon is needed for service. After all that is what confirmation is all about. What matters is we walk in His power, not just talk about it. We can claim we have something , but its better to demonstrate it.
I have no doubt we can experience interior graces from the Holy Spirit, or being “filled with the Holy Spirit”. And I can’t bring myself to judge other people’s claims of their experiences. But I have a REALLY hard time believing that a true renewal of the Spirit wouldn’t also lead those outside of the Church to come home.
I attended a Pentecostal University where I was taught this history and there is a dark side to this unfortunately. Charles Fox Parham was a racist who believed in Spiritual Israelism and William Seymour was there at his bible school in Topeka before the Azusa Street Revival broke out and Seymour was made to sit out in the hallway because he was a Black American. After Azusa there were three denominations that formed. The Church of God in Christ is the only one of the three that still remains and the earliest forming of the Assemblies of God in Texas and Arkansas was brought under the umbrella of the COGIC as the Church of God in Christ with "white" in parentheses after it.
Ahhh this is a bit of a "woke" revisionism with some half-truths. You have omitted so many things. Here's some of them:
Parham lived in Jim Crow times. He may have had racist tendencies, or he may have just been trying to be cautious.
Lots of Catholic churches were segregated at that time - same with the puritan protestant churches. Were they all racist too?
The pentecostal movement is documented for "washing away racist colour lines" as white and black worshipped together.
Early Pentecostal streams - Wesleyan and Reformed both impacted the early teachings and culture of the movement.
Some segregation re-emerged again. Is that because of Pentecostalism or because of the Reformed and Wesleyan influence? Or because of the prevailing times?
Sorry, none of the other churches were any better.
9:32 what about the lost years of Christ? How did he gain the experience and wisdom to teach a perfect ministry? And when he says all the prophets before him does that mean Judaism alone? Confusius is the "oldest known text" that teaches the golden rule.
Baptism is supposed to cause a person be born again. The priest performs water baptism and God in his love and mercy is expected to bless the person to become his child.
As per the Bible, the baptised people received the holy spirit when the apostles had laid their hands on them. Thus, Catholics are expected to receive the holy spirit when the Bishop administer the sacrament of confirmation.
Receiving the person of the holy spirit and receiving the gifts of the holy spirit are two different things. People should not get confused over this.
Baptism of the holy spirit is supposed to occur during water baptism which causes spiritual rebirth.
Outpouring of the holy spirit during renewal movements may be viewed as gifts.
It started in 1967 after some wayward Catholics went to a Protestant prayer meeting
That's right. And somehow this is supposed to be good for the Catholic Church. At least they're honest about their Protestant roots.
We must attend pre-Vatican II Latin Mass! We must combat this heresy!
Wrong
thou shall not bear wrong witness
Beautiful! God’s ways are not our ways. We humbly accept His design for the church! Come Holy Spirit!
The Catholic Charismatic Movement is an embarrassing farce - it's nothing more than an imitation of evangelical Protestants, the lunatic fringe of Christianity.
Bl. Elena would be appalled at the goings on in the "Catholic" Charismatic Renewal. Since when did the Catholic Church endorse going to the Protestants for spirituality?
I grew up in the CCR and it is 100% dangerous to the faith. I found the true Catholic faith (and spirituality) in spite of the CCR and all the impious insanity it promotes by staying close to Tradition, Our Lady and the Rosary. I highly recommend getting a copy of "Catholic Pentecostals" by Kevin Ranaghan to examine for yourself how anti-Cathoilc and dangerous this movement is. I can't think of a better way to shove young Catholics out of the Catholic Church and into Protestantism (or just out of the Church, period) than supporting the CCR, and all the ecu-maniacal, hippy-dippy-1960's-flower-child-feel-good-peace'n'love-felt-banners-and-guitars shenanigans it promotes.
Sorry Murphy but you sound protestant in that response. The Vatican decides these things - dangerous teachings, interpretations etc and they decide and judge on these matters. So far they have been receptive and even cautiously encouraging of it. Today, there are 300 million charismatic catholics. I think you've lost already. You sound like the catholic version of John McArthur.
8:00 ◄ Mark 7:8 ►
Audio Crossref Comment Greek
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
@@CatholicDefender-bp7my if it's the perfect word of God why does every denomination have their own version?
12:38 Did he predict the Holocaust and the revival of Israel? I'm in 2023. Who consecrated the two thousands? Whose 12:44 jubilee?
This history sounds so heretic... Hope and pray this heresy is rooted out soon !!!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Hey how do you get the charismatic spirit in the Catholic Church.
The "charismatic spirit", the love proceeding from the Father and the Son, has been in the Catholic Church since the beginning, year 33AD.
It's known as the Blessed Trinity.
This lady's talk is only proving that the Charismatic Movement is a Protestant confection that can lead ignorant Catholics away from the true Church.
Invite Protestants?
Charismaticism often leads people into the sin of prelest
Still doesnt change the fact that Israel, not Rome, is the pattern.
13:00 revelation describes an act like that differently
We must attend pre-Vatican II Latin Mass! We must combat this heresy!
@@birdeyes200 didn't the Pharisees consider Christ a heretic as well? What's there to combat if we're supposed to love and be faithful in our own endeavors? Heresy is only an unpopular opinion in English definition. Was Christ a heretic? Love, acceptance, and understanding of our fellow creation is what I think and hope Christ was chasing.
@@birdeyes200 if Latin mass was so important wouldn't Christ have one in Aramaic?
14:54 if science hasn't proven genetically, atomically, and elementally that we're family nothing else will. Even the big bang theory was written by a Catholic priest. One Father one Earth. We all don't come from Noah? Why would Christ preach Matthew 5:28 Why was he against fornication? How did the world repopulate?
And I know you don't follow politics, but politics has left me wondering why parents don't consider themselves paired together.
this is the word that should be used. Hiding under the dome of the rock is a place where the highest levitical priests had their sacraments. Try out that word instead of baptism lol
im·mer·sion
/iˈmərZH(ə)n,iˈmərSH(ə)n/

See definitions in:
All
Education
Christian
Astronomy
noun
the action of immersing someone or something in a liquid.
"his back was still raw from immersion in the icy Atlantic Ocean"
deep mental involvement.
"his immersion in Jewish culture"
a method of teaching a foreign language by the exclusive use of that language, usually at a special school.
Protestant heresy
13:25 he doesn't use them. Those are his favorite lol
Patience. Calm cool and collected
Don't say use them.
Even be a servant has a bad connotation today lol
Do not be deceived. Worship God. Get out from any religion praying to images. Praying to Mary. Accept Jesus as your Lord and savior and pray to God like God's son did, Jesus prayed to God but God does not need to pray to anyone.
Anti biblical and anti historical my friend. The blessed mother and the martyrs and saints intercede for us to the almighty as we are members of the Church established by the lord Jesus
@@patricksee10 Come out of her my people if you do not want to share in her sins!
You are sadly misled my friend. The one true church was established by Jesus and is acclaimed by the angels, saints and matyrs. Sola scripture and sola fide are obvious recent inventions which are vexing many@@renatahuster4861
@@renatahuster4861u need baptism in love friend
@@patricksee10show us where in the Bible Mary and "saints" intercede for us! Many Catholics like imposing ideas which they cannot prove.
Does this mean that, historically speaking, what we now know as the Pentecostal denomination, began from this "charismatic" movement in the Catholic church?