just read so many ridiculous comments on bloodhorse about this race. Nothing but excuses for Mohaymen. His trip was bad, there were some water puddles in the 9 hole, he didn't break, blah blah blah. Just give Nyquist his due credit. He hardly broke a sweat and demolished Mohaymen. West Coast horses will dominate the triple crown again this year
Happy for Doug O"Neill. He had "I'll Have Another" that had a last minute ankle injury that scratched him from the Belmont having won the Derby and the Preakness. Let's hope Nyquist stays healthy and wins the 3X Crown.
man!! what an awesome race!! Mohaymen is my horse but that Nyquist is unbelievable!! However I've still got Mohaymen in the "run for the roses" . Because horse racing is a lot like baseball (my favorite sport) You never know what's gonna happen. This is too much fun!!
Love this colt. He's got an impressive work ethic about him. There's a reason Nyquist is still unbeaten, and that's because he's all business when he's on the racetrack. Extremely focused for a 3YO. A lot of people doubted he'd win at Keenland back in October and he promptly went out and took care of business in the G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile. My guess is he was probably doubted even more here in the G1 Florida Derby than he was at Keenland because of Mohaymen being in the field, but today that question was asked and answered. Mark my words, he'll be doubted again when he goes to Churchill Downs, but he'll be right there having his say in the G1 Kentucky Derby too, IMO. Best 3YO colt in America by a stretch. Only the filly Songbird has been more impressive than Nyquist among last season's juveniles and this season's 3YO, IMO.
Nyquist is getting better every race. People doubt his distance. Well, he looked pretty damn strong today, and other than the drift, he sailed down the stretch.
+All American Chutzpah I'll be your Huckleberry then! Just say when? ;) Put your Bank roll up Sonny! I remember Sunday Silence doing the EXACT same thing! 3:)
After Nyquist veers out he finally gets back on his lead and really takes off the last 100 yards or so......I have not thought he would get the mile and a quarter but now I think he will.
An interesting thing about him drifting is that MG looked over his shoulder a split second before Nyquist drifted. Was it the look or him tiring that caused the drift. The fact that he straightened back up immediately makes me believe it was the look back.
Hey John Kaufman I really like what you have to say. You sound like a real horseman I'm new to this sport but I've been studiously learning. it's truly nice to hear someone speak with commen sense. Thank you for your wisdom :)
Lol. Seriously? If so, Thanks. I have been a fan for over 30 years. I. Enjoy these comments and reading what everyone has to say and giving my own honest opinion. I think it is also nice to put some humor into it too. For me? I am really big on pedigree influences for 3yo contenders. Doesn't work all the time but when u have 20 Derby horses and 10 have the Pedigree to get the distance? That is where u really have to figure it out.
Race I am actually looking forward to is The Arkansas Derby on April 16th. There are several rapidly improving contenders I hope get the points to get into the Kentucky Derby starting gate May 7th
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Very Nice Win For Nyquist. Having him start at age 2 without being injured has giving him a great head start on the competition. There will be plenty of front runners that will give Nyquist a problem in the Derby. Hopefully he gets an outside box or he will be in trouble. To much speed for position. The best horse doesn't always win in the derby!
I think the Preakness will be the best race of the year if Songbird runs. Really want to see her vs Nyquist. At this point it's looking like she's the only match for him.
Is it safe to say another triple crown is coming by Nyquist? I have to go with him to go all the way not because of he won here, but he has great look and strong at the end.
+Gel B FULLY agree! He was 6-5 Odds as well. The SportsBooks are still offering +225 :D ZNyquist Wins the Derby, and won't pay for then $3.60 For the Preakness, the probably $3.00 for the Belmont.
Wow. Nyquist did a number on the contenders on the track, Saturday....However, I'm not sure this was mohaymens best race...but as it stands Nyquist is becoming a force to be wrecken with on the three year old track, no doubt! ...would be nice to see a kentucky derby winner win by lengths, again
And if NYQUIST outruns his pedigree the first Saturday in May then I have nothing to say. We shall see in 5 weeks. Will be alot of fun I can say that. 😊
Mohaymen is a better horse than what he showed in the Florida Derby. After two monster efforts in a row, the owner don't want to peak too fast before the KY Derby so they probably trained him moderately.
I have been on Nyquist since his second race as my Derby pick. I should have some future wagering because after this performance, when he looks Mohaymen in the eye for a split second and then puts him away like he is a maiden claiming horse and wins the Florida Derby in hand while drifting, he is going to be the 5-2 favorite, 3-1 if I am lucky. All these so called "horse experts" tell me Nyquist can't get the distance and that is a joke. Uncle Mo was special and so is this 2 year old, he is as special as it gets. He wasn't asked once for anything. And sometimes Pedigree doesn't mean anything, just because Uncle Mo was a better sprinter doesn't mean Nyquist can't get the distance. He wired that field with ease and in my eyes, he willl get the Mile and a half if he chooses to run in the Belmont. IDK how you can watch that race and question if he can get the distance. I had this feeling about a Derby horse once before where I was so confident and it was with Super Saver and he won that race and I got him at 20-1 in the futures for 20$. He was the 9-2 favorite come race day and Calvin Borel did his rail trip and won. I also remember a guy getting that free $10,000 dream bet that day and he picked Super Saver as well and went home with a nice lump sum of cash!!! I just have that feeling again where I think he is the best horse by far and can overcame any trip. Maybe I am wrong but we will see. However, since he is gonna be the favorite, most likely, I'm trying to find another horse, a longshot to put a few bucks on in case I am wrong which happens a lot. My favorite horse ever was Curlin and his son, Exaggerator is running so I'm thinking about him but he hasn't impressed me.....IDK, any ideas?????????
loved mohaymen,,but knew he was cooked when i saw the jock pumping on him before the far turn,,yeah he was wide,,but he broke well,,and was off a fast pace,,just couldnt keep up,,,good show by nyquist!!!
I just have to say, I have respected Nyquist through his campaign so far and I have a gained respect for him now. However, I don't think we saw the real mohaymen in this Florida derby. I don't know what happened to him but something did. A horse like mohaymen doesn't go from undefeated to finishing fourth. I think we will see a different mohaymen in the derby. A better mohaymen.
I have been reading comments regarding MAJESTO and his gallop out passing NYQUIST? 1. Where was that in the stretch? 2. Did anybody think that Mario was saving his horse realizing not only 2 preps but trying to do what no other horse has done with the layoff pattern and just One turn prep.
The Derby as I envision...... Nyquist will hit a brick wall at the 1/8th pole, just as his granddaddy did in 1998 (Indian Chuck). Mor Spirit (who already passed him at the top of the stretch) will hold on, fending off a late challenge from a deep closer (don't know who). Gary Stevens will win his 4th Derby, being the second oldest jockey to win the Derby, and Baffert will win his 5th Derby, 2nd in a row.
yeah I agree fellowship nice horse. Don't win many but perennial place getter. Will be passing tired rivals down the lane and possibly pick up a nice check. No zip just a plodder but can go all day.
If he get's caught up with the speed ..watch out for Exaggerator coming late . Don't think that style will win him the Derby , but he showed in the Breeders he can come from off the pace . And I think Mohaymen will have another say if they freshen him up.
glenn cernicky Maybe...its the first leg of the Triple Crown and this race has proven to be a knock out for horses who expected favorites sometimes...I always hold me breath during the Triple Crown saga every year....but yes, Nyquist is a good 3 yr. Old. No doubt....I'm Tracking the Kentucky Oaks as well, seems Songbird, an unbeatable Filly by lengths may not compete now due to a low grade fever from an infection that's hasn't been resolved like the connections thought...so, I will be going for RACHELS VALINTINA in the oaks because I was in the Rachel Alexandra club during the Preakness. But Nyquist will be my possible favorite for the Derby but I need to watch the races over to see if I think there is a triple crown winner that hasn't shinned yet...if you remember there were three favorites last year and American Pharoah was only one of them...
Impressive run, but he will have his work cut out for him against the Santa Anita Derby winner, that horse ran like it had a "warp speed" switch that it flipped on coming down the back stretch-AWESOME RUN, every bit as impressive as American Pharaoh's Arkansas Derby race.
Nice and anxious. I like your observation. Not Mohaymens best race. His worse actually. Wide the whole time and bumped early. Couldn't get in stride comfortably. He always has made 2 moves. One before the final turn to get close to the pace then when he hits the stretch he explodes. Just realize he had just run the 2 best races of his life. Horses tend to flatten out on the next race afterwards. But then they rebound better than ever. Great derby this year. Nyquist either pulls a Barbaro and dominates or pulls a Holy Bull and then its anybody's guess. I'm leaning towards Suddenbreakingnews. Ran nice in the Arkansas and will definitely like the added distance. 300 yards is a lot of extra distance.
The Florida Derby Field is what it was after NYQUIST & MOHAYMEN with maidens, maiden claimers & maiden winners. The unfortunate aspect of this is with his surprise 2nd? MAJESTO will be completely outrun in the Derby
Maybe. ..He still held his ground and pretty steadily too..just have to see how Majesto does in training...but I was impressed with his steady pace and I really didn't see him take off until right before the line. He actually may have a good chance with strategical training the next few weeks
I don't see Nyquist even finishing in the money in the KY Derby. Nyquist is bred by Uncle Mo who faded down the stretch in the 2012 BC Classic as the favorite and has never won beyond a mile and a sixteenth. Uncle Mo is bred by Indian Charlie who also faded down the stretch in the 1998 KY Derby as the favorite, and the dam of Nyquist being a Forestry broodmare don't help the stamina pedigree either. I think Nyquist will make a hell of a miler though.
Good luck wagering against him? Lmao!~ If you wheel a Trifecta without him in the Top 3? You likely will have Plenty of tickets to light up and use with kindling Wood to start Camp Fires at Picnics this Summer. ;) Hold all of your Tickets please! ;) Uncle Mo was "NOT" trained by Mr. O'Neil. Just sayin' ;)
Cadance Lee I have a UA-cam that explains the GPS Tracking devices on the Horses. Mathematically it's proof beyond a Shadow of Doubt, the unless Nyquist's Post Position effects his Ability? He's the Horse to Beat. Let me know if you want me to post it for you to see?
Nyquist is living up to his name stake #LGRW.. He Broke good where MO didn't and Mo was wide which didnt help and he got stuck behind some slow ponies!!
+Birmingham Finest My friend...Nyquist is the 2yo champion, he is undefeated and that says alot? And to me it begs the question what exactly was MOHAYMEN beating at Aqueduct & Gulfstream? NYQUIST blew the doors of of him today? But let's face it? These Florida 3yo horses were absolutely terrible! Behind NYQUIST & MOHAYMEN they were just hoping for 3rd. Unfortunately when MOHAYMEN faltered it was a lucky gift 2nd.
Ok? This has to be asked? How does MOHAYMEN get stuck behind 3yo horses even I can outrun? Lol. I blame Junior Alvarado. And please, nobody tell me he is an elite money rider. He isn't. Been reading all the excuses that MOHAYMEN lost. please, enough.
+oo ee FELLOWSHIP is not Derby material. The fact that after making moves from the rear he hangs like a nail tells me he has distance limitations. And he couldn't even get by maiden MAJESTO for place. Each race he never gained any ground in the stretch.
I'm fairly new to horse racing. Does anyone know how strong the finish time was ( considering rain prior to the races and also how the track was through the day). Also does Nyquist have the pedigree to go the distance because he started to drift outward towards the end but when the jockey shook the reins he responded well plus a decent gallop out.
Nyquist look good winning the Florida Derby but in the Kentucky Derby, he will have to run a mile and a quarter distance against far faster fractions. We'll see if Nyquist can hold off the late charge of Destin, Brodys Cause, Suddenbreakingnews, Mo Tom, Whitmore, Fellowship and Swipe.
I love WHITMORE'S breeding buy the female side worries me. SUDDEN BREAKING NEWS has top & Bottom to be a major force? Check CREATOR out. He is coming into his own. TAPIT needs a strong female family. His female family is loaded with strong stamina. With MOHAYMEN with me? Not about ability but the female family which to me like many Tapit Horses doesn't poses the stamina to get 10f.
+John Kaufmann I did a little research on Creator, yes, he can close well and he has two solid fast closing seconds at Churchill Downs. The mile and a quarter could be the difference maker, he'll definitely be on my trifecta box.
The West is strong again. To be fair, Mohaymen was not his usual self today. Even if he was, he would have had a hard time with Nyquist.... This is the one that got away from Mario.
Ask this question? What exactly has MOHAYMEN beaten in his career up until today? Serious? FELLOWSHIP? Anybody can beat that horse. When u look at his past performances he has never beaten a good horse. He ran into the 2yo Champ today and he was exposed.
+John Kaufmann Mohaymen beat 2 undefeated horses a while back. The only reason I can give him a pass this race because he finished 4th, not 2nd. Had he finished 2nd, I would be confident in saying that he ran his race and just got beat by a better horse. I do believe Nyquist is the best 3YO, and would have won regardless, but I would have liked to see a the real Mohaymen get tested today. We did not see that today.
+Ahmad Mallard I will be very curious to see what FLEXIBILITY does in the Wood Memorial as he was 2nd to MOHAYMEN at Aqueduct in the Nashua & Remsen. Especially on the main track. A different animal from the winter inner track!
#Kaitlyn. he's not on the same planet as American Pharaoh. all though ap beat up on the same horses keen ice , frosted etc he was might good. my friend owned a 25 per stake in firing line who ran his balls out. being in the middle of bafferts Dortmund and American Pharaoh he ran a mighty race firstly putting Dortmund away and then almost holding off ap who had a great trip. would have been a 6 figure day if he won the derby. after he won his final prep race ( sunland derby ) I was told who ever beats him wins the race. hence we had the exact and the triple ( Dortmund 3 rd) several hundred times.
I like Nyquist, but I've seen horses get slammed by another in one race and become super competitive against that one horse more than any other everyone after that. If Mohammen is like that I'm afraid Nyquist won't win the Triple Crown.
people hate on this champion and I hope there losing there rent money....he is a fucking beast,won at several diff tracks and several diff distances and won every which way possible also,gate to wire,stalker,closer....shut the he'll up people and give the man his damn respect....don't talk about buyer or pedigree or time....was mind that birds pedigree good? could pioneer of the nile run past mile and eight? is Michael Jordan kids good? NYQUISTS fav song is by dj kahild "all I do is win win win no matter what"
Yep. U have it 100% right about me. I am uneducated in horse racing. Close to 30 years being a fan? I have never had a winner, I know nothing about pedigree, I know nothing about breeding, I know nothing about a track bias, I know nothing about track variants, I know nothing about pace, I know nothing about workouts? Nothing! U have made me seen the light! Thank You! I am in awe in your superior knowledge of Thoroughbred Racing! Lol...Wow. U trolls are a laugh riot.
+John Kaufmann I just saw this and I hope you aren't referring to me? 😥 I removed a post from another place that may have hurt you. I am sorry. I work as an outrider at a big track, and I think I may have misunderstood the way you phrased some things. I apologize again. 😢
It is hard rooting for a Doug O'neill horse because I don't like the guy. I wish someone like Baffert had him but I have loved this horse since I bet him in the Breeders Cup Juvenile and he was 4-5 wide the entire race with both Exaggerator and Brody's cause getting their ideal trip, and Nyquist went on and opened up on the field despite running a good 25 yards farther being so wide and still getting the job done. Exaggerator was fading and clearly loves Wet tracks and if it Rains, I'm using Exaggerator come derby day. But looking back, Broadys Cause had no chance of catching him and Mohaymen was hard to find. Come Derby Day, Nyquist has shown he can win on good and wet tracks and that Florida derby win in hand was impressive. If I get 5-2 on this horse I'm Ok because I think the is that much better than anyone else.
I just want to say? Fear not! The Wood Memorial from Aqueduct is next Saturday aka "A tribute to unknown pharmaceutical agents" Lol! U think?I do. We all know the Derby winner is not coming from Aqueduct this year.
Nyquist post 13, Mo Tom 4, Gun Runner 5. Longshot Trojan Nation got the dreaded 1 post, with SuddenBreakingNews in number 2. Creator 3. Poor Brody's Cause way out in the back forty in post 19. 😕
I don't believe MOHAYMEN can get 1 1/4 miles. He was extremely wide the entire trip. Nyquist with that breeding and drifting out badly I am still undecided if he can get the 1 1/4 miles. With that said? Big effort to travel 3,000 miles and kept company on the front end for 6f
+Birmingham Finest Now I read That Mario Gutierrez drifted out by design to keep MOHAYMEN very wide. That was excellent strategy. When u watch the race u think he was drifting badly because he was leg weary, then it was actually the opposite.
Been involved in horse racing for 47 years. I know what I'm talking about. Ask anyone who's been around racing for a while. A mental midget like you would have no idea.
For me? It is hard to root for a trainer like a Doug O'neill for the very reason u just mentioned. He has way more medication infractions than Richard Dutrow ever did & Dutrow was banned. Go figure on that. If people want to cheer O'neill on that is fine. We all have our opinions. I will not be one of them.
There both good horse nyquist got the better trip.The winner got a nice trip with moderate fractions. Connections have said this guy is better than # I'll have another # who won 2/3 legs of the triple crown before being scratch on Belmont day. Trust me neither horse is winning the derby. Good luck to all.
Yes. Too true. NYQUIST'S pedigree very questionable. Especially the bottom. Dam out of FORESTRY the sprinter. Lucky the field was filled with show ponies today and he was drifting out very bad in the stretch. MOHAYMEN? I question now just exactly what he has beaten in his career up until today. Also TAPIT needs that strong female family. If u look there is not much influence for 10f there.
While I am on the subject? Mario Gutierrez proved himself on I'LL HAVE ANOTHER a few years ago and nobody gave him a chance after? Once again he has proved himself with NYQUIST! Paul Reddam/Doug O'neill have total confidence in Super Mario! Shame on the other trainers and owners. This man is smart and knows how to ride horses!
Todd Shrupp is soooo annoying to listen to, especially in a big race. Sounds like he's downed a six pack of Red Bull when the producers tell him to pump it up. So phony!
But to be fair and it was a very deserved victory by Nyquist? After MOHAYMEN? These Florida 3yo horses are God awful. FELLOWSHIP ran his usual suck up 3rd in all 3 Gulfstream preps this winter/spring. This field was horrendous. And when u have one of the big 2 fail? Then u get a huge price for the place spot
+oo ee I very much respect your comments? I really do? But I have to ask what u saw in FELLOWSHIP that I didn't? With closers? I want to see horses make sustained runs in the stretch? He didn't. It seems he would make this big run into contention on the far turn then call it quits.
just read so many ridiculous comments on bloodhorse about this race. Nothing but excuses for Mohaymen. His trip was bad, there were some water puddles in the 9 hole, he didn't break, blah blah blah. Just give Nyquist his due credit. He hardly broke a sweat and demolished Mohaymen. West Coast horses will dominate the triple crown again this year
Typical bloodhorse. They have their anointed should coulda woulda horses and if they dont perform there are always excuses.
+Michael Mindiola What is a "West Coast horse"?
bigpardner well obviously a horse from the west coast
Happy for Doug O"Neill. He had "I'll Have Another" that had a last minute ankle injury that scratched him from the Belmont having won the Derby and the Preakness. Let's hope Nyquist stays healthy and wins the 3X Crown.
Love Nyquist. Hope he wins the Derby. I am a huge fan of this guy.
man!! what an awesome race!! Mohaymen is my horse but that Nyquist is unbelievable!!
However I've still got Mohaymen in the "run for the roses" . Because horse racing is a lot like baseball (my favorite sport) You never know what's gonna happen. This is too much fun!!
Love this colt. He's got an impressive work ethic about him. There's a reason Nyquist is still unbeaten, and that's because he's all business when he's on the racetrack. Extremely focused for a 3YO. A lot of people doubted he'd win at Keenland back in October and he promptly went out and took care of business in the G1 Breeders Cup Juvenile. My guess is he was probably doubted even more here in the G1 Florida Derby than he was at Keenland because of Mohaymen being in the field, but today that question was asked and answered. Mark my words, he'll be doubted again when he goes to Churchill Downs, but he'll be right there having his say in the G1 Kentucky Derby too, IMO. Best 3YO colt in America by a stretch. Only the filly Songbird has been more impressive than Nyquist among last season's juveniles and this season's 3YO, IMO.
Nyquist is getting better every race. People doubt his distance. Well, he looked pretty damn strong today, and other than the drift, he sailed down the stretch.
+Killer Bees Arkansas Derby to me the most interesting. Alot on the line for many.
+Killer Bees Yes. I Totally agree.
+Killer Bees Each of these last preps the 9th & 16th are not only wide open but crucial for points
+Killer Bees Again, to me Arkansas Derby alot on the line. Even with Cupid so many good 3yo needing the points that day
+All American Chutzpah I'll be your Huckleberry then! Just say when? ;) Put your Bank roll up Sonny! I remember Sunday Silence doing the EXACT same thing! 3:)
After Nyquist veers out he finally gets back on his lead and really takes off the last 100 yards or so......I have not thought he would get the mile and a quarter but now I think he will.
he actually switched leads late dnt like to see it bt he does it often and it doesn't bother him
An interesting thing about him drifting is that MG looked over his shoulder a split second before Nyquist drifted. Was it the look or him tiring that caused the drift. The fact that he straightened back up immediately makes me believe it was the look back.
Hey John Kaufman I really like what you have to say. You sound like a real horseman
I'm new to this sport but I've been studiously learning. it's truly nice to hear someone speak with commen sense. Thank you for your wisdom :)
Lol. Seriously? If so, Thanks. I have been a fan for over 30 years. I. Enjoy these comments and reading what everyone has to say and giving my own honest opinion. I think it is also nice to put some humor into it too. For me? I am really big on pedigree influences for 3yo contenders. Doesn't work all the time but when u have 20 Derby horses and 10 have the Pedigree to get the distance? That is where u really have to figure it out.
Race I am actually looking forward to is The Arkansas Derby on April 16th. There are several rapidly improving contenders I hope get the points to get into the Kentucky Derby starting gate May 7th
Just wanted to say I returned the favor & subscribed to u. What u see is what u get! I don't BS and I tell it like it is...but in a good way. We are all on here because we are all fans. The interaction is great! 😊 We all have our horses that we like for one reason or another for whatever reason.
I knew he could do it! Way to go, Nyquist!
Beautiful win. I've been loving Nyquist since last year. Just wasn't Mo's day, he looked a bit annoyed even going into the gate :P I do like him too.
I agree...it wasn't Mohaymens best race...but I think, there will still be a few more competitive starts for both of these colts
+ShortNanxious Triple Crown back to back with Nyquist! Last done in 1977 (Seattle Slew) and 1979 (Affirmed)
+Meaghan Edwards Triple Crown back to back with Nyquist! Last done in 1977 (Seattle Slew) and 1979 (Affirmed)
Fingers crossed!
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Very Nice Win For Nyquist. Having him start at age 2 without being injured has giving him a great head start on the competition. There will be plenty of front runners that will give Nyquist a problem in the Derby. Hopefully he gets an outside box or he will be in trouble. To much speed for position. The best horse doesn't always win in the derby!
He reminds me of American Pharoah.. He just keeps getting better as the distances get longer..
Yeh, he took a length or so lead, then they drew up on him, and then he drew back away, sound familiar??
+Kaitlyn Catania ---He reminds me of Secretariat.
I think the Preakness will be the best race of the year if Songbird runs. Really want to see her vs Nyquist. At this point it's looking like she's the only match for him.
Nyquist for Triple Crown!
+zcourtney90 For REAL! SportsBooks are still offering +225
Nyquist never broke a sweat.
+stevenfd123 Then won The KY Derby.
Is it safe to say another triple crown is coming by Nyquist? I have to go with him to go all the way not because of he won here, but he has great look and strong at the end.
+Gel B FULLY agree! He was 6-5 Odds as well. The SportsBooks are still offering +225 :D ZNyquist Wins the Derby, and won't pay for then $3.60 For the Preakness, the probably $3.00 for the Belmont.
Wow. Nyquist did a number on the contenders on the track, Saturday....However, I'm not sure this was mohaymens best race...but as it stands Nyquist is becoming a force to be wrecken with on the three year old track, no doubt!
...would be nice to see a kentucky derby winner win by lengths, again
+oo ee maybe 3rd? lol
+oo ee Maybe 4th? lol
MIss two of the biggest races last summer wish he could go all the way!
Wishing for a Triple Crown winner, MOST Deserved,, and Won.
He runs just like Pharoah. Head down and beautiful form(besides the drift wide at the end).
Triple Crown back to back with Nyquist! Last done in 1977 (Seattle Slew) and 1979 (Affirmed)
And if NYQUIST outruns his pedigree the first Saturday in May then I have nothing to say. We shall see in 5 weeks. Will be alot of fun I can say that. 😊
Nyquist saw Mohaymen and he was like...oh no Bro...not gonna happen.
Mohaymen is a better horse than what he showed in the Florida Derby. After two monster efforts in a row, the owner don't want to peak too fast before the KY Derby so they probably trained him moderately.
+keithlamontbraggs --There`s more than enough time b4 the Derby. At least it makes more sense than sissy bees and MS.
Boy, Fellowship went 3 for 3. Literally! He's a cute little horse though. I like his chances in the Kentucky Derby.
I have been on Nyquist since his second race as my Derby pick. I should have some future wagering because after this performance, when he looks Mohaymen in the eye for a split second and then puts him away like he is a maiden claiming horse and wins the Florida Derby in hand while drifting, he is going to be the 5-2 favorite, 3-1 if I am lucky. All these so called "horse experts" tell me Nyquist can't get the distance and that is a joke. Uncle Mo was special and so is this 2 year old, he is as special as it gets. He wasn't asked once for anything. And sometimes Pedigree doesn't mean anything, just because Uncle Mo was a better sprinter doesn't mean Nyquist can't get the distance. He wired that field with ease and in my eyes, he willl get the Mile and a half if he chooses to run in the Belmont. IDK how you can watch that race and question if he can get the distance. I had this feeling about a Derby horse once before where I was so confident and it was with Super Saver and he won that race and I got him at 20-1 in the futures for 20$. He was the 9-2 favorite come race day and Calvin Borel did his rail trip and won. I also remember a guy getting that free $10,000 dream bet that day and he picked Super Saver as well and went home with a nice lump sum of cash!!! I just have that feeling again where I think he is the best horse by far and can overcame any trip. Maybe I am wrong but we will see. However, since he is gonna be the favorite, most likely, I'm trying to find another horse, a longshot to put a few bucks on in case I am wrong which happens a lot. My favorite horse ever was Curlin and his son, Exaggerator is running so I'm thinking about him but he hasn't impressed me.....IDK, any ideas?????????
I know who I will bet on now.
great job, TVG
loved mohaymen,,but knew he was cooked when i saw the jock pumping on him before the far turn,,yeah he was wide,,but he broke well,,and was off a fast pace,,just couldnt keep up,,,good show by nyquist!!!
I just have to say, I have respected Nyquist through his campaign so far and I have a gained respect for him now. However, I don't think we saw the real mohaymen in this Florida derby. I don't know what happened to him but something did. A horse like mohaymen doesn't go from undefeated to finishing fourth. I think we will see a different mohaymen in the derby. A better mohaymen.
Key factor: Nyquist only carried 109, Mohaymen carried 115... will carry way more in Louisville
I have been reading comments regarding MAJESTO and his gallop out passing NYQUIST? 1. Where was that in the stretch? 2. Did anybody think that Mario was saving his horse realizing not only 2 preps but trying to do what no other horse has done with the layoff pattern and just One turn prep.
The Derby as I envision...... Nyquist will hit a brick wall at the 1/8th pole, just as his granddaddy did in 1998 (Indian Chuck). Mor Spirit (who already passed him at the top of the stretch) will hold on, fending off a late challenge from a deep closer (don't know who). Gary Stevens will win his 4th Derby, being the second oldest jockey to win the Derby, and Baffert will win his 5th Derby, 2nd in a row.
yeah I agree fellowship nice horse. Don't win many but perennial place getter. Will be passing tired rivals down the lane and possibly pick up a nice check. No zip just a plodder but can go all day.
If he get's caught up with the speed ..watch out for Exaggerator coming late . Don't think that style will win him the Derby , but he showed in the Breeders he can come from off the pace . And I think Mohaymen will have another say if they freshen him up.
Congrats to Nyquist
I don't get why people question his Pedigree. Did anyone look back to the 60's and 70's? :-\
I tried to tell fools. Nyquist the real deal.
Said it from the holy bull that mohymen was nothing
+Killer Bees
I agree with you
+Killer Bees Point taken about Hopportunity. However if Nyquist starts? It's "Catch me if you can" ! :)
glenn cernicky
Maybe...its the first leg of the Triple Crown and this race has proven to be a knock out for horses who expected favorites sometimes...I always hold me breath during the Triple Crown saga every year....but yes, Nyquist is a good 3 yr. Old. No doubt....I'm Tracking the Kentucky Oaks as well, seems Songbird, an unbeatable Filly by lengths may not compete now due to a low grade fever from an infection that's hasn't been resolved like the connections thought...so, I will be going for RACHELS VALINTINA in the oaks because I was in the Rachel Alexandra club during the Preakness. But Nyquist will be my possible favorite for the Derby but I need to watch the races over to see if I think there is a triple crown winner that hasn't shinned yet...if you remember there were three favorites last year and American Pharoah was only one of them...
Impressive run, but he will have his work cut out for him against the Santa Anita Derby winner, that horse ran like it had a "warp speed" switch that it flipped on coming down the back stretch-AWESOME RUN, every bit as impressive as American Pharaoh's Arkansas Derby race.
Nice and anxious. I like your observation. Not Mohaymens best race. His worse actually. Wide the whole time and bumped early. Couldn't get in stride comfortably. He always has made 2 moves. One before the final turn to get close to the pace then when he hits the stretch he explodes. Just realize he had just run the 2 best races of his life. Horses tend to flatten out on the next race afterwards. But then they rebound better than ever. Great derby this year. Nyquist either pulls a Barbaro and dominates or pulls a Holy Bull and then its anybody's guess. I'm leaning towards Suddenbreakingnews. Ran nice in the Arkansas and will definitely like the added distance. 300 yards is a lot of extra distance.
The Florida Derby Field is what it was after NYQUIST & MOHAYMEN with maidens, maiden claimers & maiden winners. The unfortunate aspect of this is with his surprise 2nd? MAJESTO will be completely outrun in the Derby
Maybe. ..He still held his ground and pretty steadily too..just have to see how Majesto does in training...but I was impressed with his steady pace and I really didn't see him take off until right before the line. He actually may have a good chance with strategical training the next few weeks
Watever Team O'Neill is doing they need to keep doing it, Doug also won like 3 races at santa anita yesterday #onfire
I will say this again....It is a damn shame only Doug O'neill has complete faith in Mario! This guy is a smart damn good rider!
Peter eurton gives him solid mounts bt complete faith in him ur right Doug def has that in Mario
The creator will be picking up Nyquist at the wire in the Derby, you heard it here.
Nyquist lost in the 2016 preakness stakes i was there in person. Same with the Kentucky derby and Belmont stakes
I don't see Nyquist even finishing in the money in the KY Derby. Nyquist is bred by Uncle Mo who faded down the stretch in the 2012 BC Classic as the favorite and has never won beyond a mile and a sixteenth. Uncle Mo is bred by Indian Charlie who also faded down the stretch in the 1998 KY Derby as the favorite, and the dam of Nyquist being a Forestry broodmare don't help the stamina pedigree either. I think Nyquist will make a hell of a miler though.
+keithlamontbraggs Lmao!!! I will be your Huckleberry Keith! just say "When" ;)
Cadance Lee You're right, but Uncle Mo still never won a race beyond a mile and a sixteenth.
Good luck wagering against him? Lmao!~ If you wheel a Trifecta without him in the Top 3? You likely will have Plenty of tickets to light up and use with kindling Wood to start Camp Fires at Picnics this Summer. ;) Hold all of your Tickets please! ;) Uncle Mo was "NOT" trained by Mr. O'Neil. Just sayin' ;)
Cadance Lee
I have a UA-cam that explains the GPS Tracking devices on the Horses. Mathematically it's proof beyond a Shadow of Doubt, the unless Nyquist's Post Position effects his Ability? He's the Horse to Beat. Let me know if you want me to post it for you to see?
Nyquist is living up to his name stake #LGRW.. He Broke good where MO didn't and Mo was wide which didnt help and he got stuck behind some slow ponies!!
+Birmingham Finest My friend...Nyquist is the 2yo champion, he is undefeated and that says alot? And to me it begs the question what exactly was MOHAYMEN beating at Aqueduct & Gulfstream? NYQUIST blew the doors of of him today? But let's face it? These Florida 3yo horses were absolutely terrible! Behind NYQUIST & MOHAYMEN they were just hoping for 3rd. Unfortunately when MOHAYMEN faltered it was a lucky gift 2nd.
Ok? This has to be asked? How does MOHAYMEN get stuck behind 3yo horses even I can outrun? Lol. I blame Junior Alvarado. And please, nobody tell me he is an elite money rider. He isn't. Been reading all the excuses that MOHAYMEN lost. please, enough.
+oo ee FELLOWSHIP is not Derby material. The fact that after making moves from the rear he hangs like a nail tells me he has distance limitations. And he couldn't even get by maiden MAJESTO for place. Each race he never gained any ground in the stretch.
I'm fairly new to horse racing. Does anyone know how strong the finish time was ( considering rain prior to the races and also how the track was through the day). Also does Nyquist have the pedigree to go the distance because he started to drift outward towards the end but when the jockey shook the reins he responded well plus a decent gallop out.
u have a lot of ???
+Mac cooper LOL :p Well just curious bout the finish time.
Nyquist vs Gunrunner!
Great win..I was expecting a great race from MO.. but maybe something happened to the horse that he didn't perform like he should have.
typo. Uncle Mo.
This Larry C. calling right
Nyquist look good winning the Florida Derby but in the Kentucky Derby, he will have to run a mile and a quarter distance against far faster fractions. We'll see if Nyquist can hold off the late charge of Destin, Brodys Cause, Suddenbreakingnews, Mo Tom, Whitmore, Fellowship and Swipe.
beware of CREATOR!
I love WHITMORE'S breeding buy the female side worries me. SUDDEN BREAKING NEWS has top & Bottom to be a major force? Check CREATOR out. He is coming into his own. TAPIT needs a strong female family. His female family is loaded with strong stamina. With MOHAYMEN with me? Not about ability but the female family which to me like many Tapit Horses doesn't poses the stamina to get 10f.
Yeah Brody's cause is one to look for.. Had a monster work the other day.
Brody's cause will be coming from the clouds no doubt.
+John Kaufmann I did a little research on Creator, yes, he can close well and he has two solid fast closing seconds at Churchill Downs. The mile and a quarter could be the difference maker, he'll definitely be on my trifecta box.
Can you spell Triple Crown?
The West is strong again. To be fair, Mohaymen was not his usual self today. Even if he was, he would have had a hard time with Nyquist.... This is the one that got away from Mario.
Ask this question? What exactly has MOHAYMEN beaten in his career up until today? Serious? FELLOWSHIP? Anybody can beat that horse. When u look at his past performances he has never beaten a good horse. He ran into the 2yo Champ today and he was exposed.
+John Kaufmann Mohaymen beat 2 undefeated horses a while back. The only reason I can give him a pass this race because he finished 4th, not 2nd. Had he finished 2nd, I would be confident in saying that he ran his race and just got beat by a better horse. I do believe Nyquist is the best 3YO, and would have won regardless, but I would have liked to see a the real Mohaymen get tested today. We did not see that today.
+Ahmad Mallard Mohaymen Doesnt Like A wet Track is his Excuse and come Derby day Watch Out
+Ahmad Mallard I will be very curious to see what FLEXIBILITY does in the Wood Memorial as he was 2nd to MOHAYMEN at Aqueduct in the Nashua & Remsen. Especially on the main track. A different animal from the winter inner track!
I'm a new Yorker. watch for runhappy in the met mile. ( freakish horse. ).
#Kaitlyn. he's not on the same planet as American Pharaoh. all though ap beat up on the same horses keen ice , frosted etc he was might good. my friend owned a 25 per stake in firing line who ran his balls out. being in the middle of bafferts Dortmund and American Pharaoh he ran a mighty race firstly putting Dortmund away and then almost holding off ap who had a great trip. would have been a 6 figure day if he won the derby. after he won his final prep race ( sunland derby ) I was told who ever beats him wins the race. hence we had the exact and the triple ( Dortmund 3 rd) several hundred times.
What about steroids? Do they check the horses for steroids?
rip mohaymen when I think of nyquist I Whach this vid
I like Nyquist, but I've seen horses get slammed by another in one race and become super competitive against that one horse more than any other everyone after that. If Mohammen is like that I'm afraid Nyquist won't win the Triple Crown.
*Mohaymen
+Mallory S --You`re delusional. Mohaymen not Mohammen had his chance.
Killer Bees Agreed
people hate on this champion and I hope there losing there rent money....he is a fucking beast,won at several diff tracks and several diff distances and won every which way possible also,gate to wire,stalker,closer....shut the he'll up people and give the man his damn respect....don't talk about buyer or pedigree or time....was mind that birds pedigree good? could pioneer of the nile run past mile and eight? is Michael Jordan kids good? NYQUISTS fav song is by dj kahild "all I do is win win win no matter what"
Yep. U have it 100% right about me. I am uneducated in horse racing. Close to 30 years being a fan? I have never had a winner, I know nothing about pedigree, I know nothing about breeding, I know nothing about a track bias, I know nothing about track variants, I know nothing about pace, I know nothing about workouts? Nothing! U have made me seen the light! Thank You! I am in awe in your superior knowledge of Thoroughbred Racing! Lol...Wow. U trolls are a laugh riot.
+John Kaufmann I just saw this and I hope you aren't referring to me? 😥 I removed a post from another place that may have hurt you. I am sorry. I work as an outrider at a big track, and I think I may have misunderstood the way you phrased some things. I apologize again. 😢
It is hard rooting for a Doug O'neill horse because I don't like the guy. I wish someone like Baffert had him but I have loved this horse since I bet him in the Breeders Cup Juvenile and he was 4-5 wide the entire race with both Exaggerator and Brody's cause getting their ideal trip, and Nyquist went on and opened up on the field despite running a good 25 yards farther being so wide and still getting the job done. Exaggerator was fading and clearly loves Wet tracks and if it Rains, I'm using Exaggerator come derby day. But looking back, Broadys Cause had no chance of catching him and Mohaymen was hard to find. Come Derby Day, Nyquist has shown he can win on good and wet tracks and that Florida derby win in hand was impressive. If I get 5-2 on this horse I'm Ok because I think the is that much better than anyone else.
I'll have another was a nice horse also , beating bodemeister twice no easy feat.
The Preakness. Mario Gutierrez would not let BODE MEISTER beat him!
I just want to say? Fear not! The Wood Memorial from Aqueduct is next Saturday aka "A tribute to unknown pharmaceutical agents" Lol! U think?I do. We all know the Derby winner is not coming from Aqueduct this year.
1 race does not a champion make!
well I'll be for the derby I can tell you without a doubt the derby winner won't come from the wood or the Santa Anita derby. watch the bluegrass.
Nyquist post 13, Mo Tom 4, Gun Runner 5. Longshot Trojan Nation got the dreaded 1 post, with SuddenBreakingNews in number 2. Creator 3. Poor Brody's Cause way out in the back forty in post 19. 😕
I don't believe MOHAYMEN can get 1 1/4 miles. He was extremely wide the entire trip. Nyquist with that breeding and drifting out badly I am still undecided if he can get the 1 1/4 miles. With that said? Big effort to travel 3,000 miles and kept company on the front end for 6f
+Birmingham Finest Now I read That Mario Gutierrez drifted out by design to keep MOHAYMEN very wide. That was excellent strategy. When u watch the race u think he was drifting badly because he was leg weary, then it was actually the opposite.
The West is the Best! ---Jim Morrison
Love mohaymen bet heavy in futures at 12-1 but looks like he's just another tapit to me....smh (they said he was different) 😭
Jockey shouldn't be looking over both shoulders; just right hard to the wire.
+David Ramirez --How the fuck would you know? How many races have you won?
Been involved in horse racing for 47 years. I know what I'm talking about. Ask anyone who's been around racing for a while. A mental midget like you would have no idea.
LETS GO RED WINGS
Doug O'Neill will be Richard Dutrow in time. Cheaters don't change.
For me? It is hard to root for a trainer like a Doug O'neill for the very reason u just mentioned. He has way more medication infractions than Richard Dutrow ever did & Dutrow was banned. Go figure on that. If people want to cheer O'neill on that is fine. We all have our opinions. I will not be one of them.
There both good horse nyquist got the better trip.The winner got a nice trip with moderate fractions. Connections have said this guy is better than # I'll have another # who won 2/3 legs of the triple crown before being scratch on Belmont day. Trust me neither horse is winning the derby. Good luck to all.
Yes. Too true. NYQUIST'S pedigree very questionable. Especially the bottom. Dam out of FORESTRY the sprinter. Lucky the field was filled with show ponies today and he was drifting out very bad in the stretch. MOHAYMEN? I question now just exactly what he has beaten in his career up until today. Also TAPIT needs that strong female family. If u look there is not much influence for 10f there.
While I am on the subject? Mario Gutierrez proved himself on I'LL HAVE ANOTHER a few years ago and nobody gave him a chance after? Once again he has proved himself with NYQUIST! Paul Reddam/Doug O'neill have total confidence in Super Mario! Shame on the other trainers and owners. This man is smart and knows how to ride horses!
+John Kaufmann Mario Was Pulling Him To the Outside the whole Race... wake up
nyquist pedigree. Uncle no. Could be anything as mo was.
DOUG O;NEILL MY NIGGA
Todd Shrupp is soooo annoying to listen to, especially in a big race. Sounds like he's downed a six pack of Red Bull when the producers tell him to pump it up. So phony!
+Dale Walker I agree. He usually makes me turn off the sound.
If u think Todd Shrupp is bad? The race caller for The Spiral sounded monotone like he was reading off cue cards! Lol
I think I'd much prefer monotone over Shrupp's phony hype.
+Dale Walker Lol. true
Turfway race caller sounded like he was either on Xanex or guzzling a pint of Jim Beam! Lol
So mohaymen is better
ラニ勝てよ！
rani
very easy
But to be fair and it was a very deserved victory by Nyquist? After MOHAYMEN? These Florida 3yo horses are God awful. FELLOWSHIP ran his usual suck up 3rd in all 3 Gulfstream preps this winter/spring. This field was horrendous. And when u have one of the big 2 fail? Then u get a huge price for the place spot
But Mohaymen Got 4th to Fellowship who Is Dangerous Come Derby Day
+oo ee I very much respect your comments? I really do? But I have to ask what u saw in FELLOWSHIP that I didn't? With closers? I want to see horses make sustained runs in the stretch? He didn't. It seems he would make this big run into contention on the far turn then call it quits.
If theres a Fast Pace but I Bet Mor Spirit and Mo Tom yesterday for Derby..
+oo ee watched that Kentucky Jockey Club Gold Cup? A head seperated MOR SPIRIT & MO TOM mainly because MO TOM liked to find trouble with the rail
+oo ee With MO TOM? Will Corey Lanerie redeem himself and justify Tom Amoss's Loyalty?
Nyquist
(March 10, 2013 - )
* Sire: Uncle Mo
* Grandsire: Indian Charlie
* Dam: Seeking Gabrielle
* Damsire: Forestry
* Sex: Stallion
* Breeder: Summerhill Farm
* Owner: John Paul Reddam, Reddam Racing
* Trainer: Douglas F. O´Neill
* Jockey: Mario Gutierrez (8 for 11)
* 11 Starts
* 8 Firsts
* 0 Seconds
* 1 Third
* 1 Fourth
* 1 Sixth
* $ 5,189,200 earned (Current $ 6,413,344)
* 2015 American Champion Two-Year-Old Male Horse 🏇
* Well done, Champion!
* Best regards from Venezuela
Nyquist
(10 de Marzo, 2013 - )
* Padre: Uncle Mo
* Abuelo paterno: Indian Charlie
* Madre: Seeking Gabrielle
* Abuelo materno: Forestry
* Sexo: Semental
* Criador: Summerhill Farm
* Propietario: John Paul Reddam, Reddam Racing
* Entrenador: Douglas F. O´Neill
* Jinete: Mario Gutiérrez (De 11-8)
* 11 Salidas
* 8 Primeros
* 0 Segundos
* 1 Tercero
* 1 Cuarto
* 1 Sexto
* $ 5.189.200 producidos ($ 6.413.344 actuales)
* Potro Campeón de Dos Años en Estados Unidos 2015 🏇
* ¡Bravo, Campeón!
* Saludos desde Venezuela