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Sure just keep adding more requirements to just get into med school, it’s not like the making the doctor shortage problem even worse will very negatively affect patient care in the long run anyways, right?
@truthteller2711 agreed, also we shouldn't lower the standards or make it easier for people to get in simply because of a shortage if we did that then how can you trust that your physician is well educated and able to actually help you do you just want incompetent people to take care of you and your loved ones
@@Alex_Amoroso wrong. Increasing medical school seats will do NOTHING except increase the number of unmatched graduates. The fix needs to be from the residency slots end.
I registered for this exam, because I got an email telling me I had to, so I can apply to medical school this cycle. I paid the fee, then checked the AAMC website to find out only a handful of schools require the exam. It’s definitely a cash grab.
@@nicolevicente1538 Hi friend! I apologize for the late reply. I’m applying to less than 5 that require the exam. It wasn’t worth it in my opinion. I would wait until it’s mandatory for most or all medical schools to require this exam.
@@ensuingm.d.studyjunkiee8514 Luckily there are still many, many schools that do not require this test and I simply just never signed up for it. My reasoning for that was because even though a school may not require the score, they will still be able to see it on your primary application if you do end up taking it. So, I didn't want to risk anything since I had already taken the Casper test and truly felt that it was a waste of time. As of right now, only 9 schools technically require preview and I wouldn't waste my time on it.
Ah yes, why not keep med school admissions simplistic so we can pump out more unqualified doctors into the healthcare system. I am glad they are administering this test, because being a doctor is much more than just diagnosing a patient.
I’m not opposed to testing the empathy of future doctors because as patients such as myself have been saying, some people really shouldn’t be in the medical field if they really don’t care about about helping people in need lol. I understand patients can be horrible at times but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about you can’t even handle the everyday of dealing with people, which I’ve seen and experienced myself. However, becoming a doctor is already hard enough I don’t think these individuals need more tests to study for! How about we make medical school cheaper or free? Cancel student debt? ANYTHING ELSE before we add more test to an already stressed out group of people.
My concern, in addition to the price, is that people, even though they are doctors, are the individuals who are creating the rubric. Just because a group of doctors believe something is effective, does not mean it is effective in practicality- its totally subjective.
@@avgstudent4.0agreed. And how is this small group of doctors’ responses rate my answers on their subjective responses? It’s so arbitrary to make the answer choices very effective or effective? What difference does it make? It’s either the right answer or not. Ridiculous.
Fuck this. We just need more off time to get our empathy, mental health, and professionalism intact. Some may come in with the best etiquette, professionalism, and empathy and then it gets beaten out of our bodies as time goes on.
More barriers to entry. As if studying 6 months for the MCAT wasn’t already a huge advantage on a student who is well off vs someone who needs to work full time because they don’t come from money… Im tired of old rich men in suits making these bullshit barriers.
These situational judgement tests are horrific. I had to take Casper for a few of my schools I applied to. They give you subjective situations, and then have random people objectively grade you, which by definition leads to inconsistent grading. IMO, the goal of what these kinds of tests try to find out is what an interview is for.
But people can just memorize and learn how to sound sympathetic and like they know how to handle these situations…. Anybody can fake it. It doesn’t mean they actually have compassion.
Compassion and empathy are different things. At a certain point, many doctors just stop "feeling" for their patients. But that doesn't mean they can't still offer kind and nurturing patient care.
Is there actually a point to Casper and PREview? There’s already so much we have to do get into a med school, why make everything even more complicated when there’s a shortage of doctors?
Sure there is a shortage of doctors, but we can’t just have anybody become medical professionals. Patients care a lot more about how the doctor is perceived rather than how much doctors there is. If you can’t even show understanding to a patient and understand their situation firsthand then how can you even connect with your patient? How can you even help them if they can’t even open up and talk to you?
@@aviatorsound914 what’s the reason for making the test a $100 then? Is an arbitrary score really how we want to test empathy, professionalism, and all of the above when the test just looks for if you can recognize when to act right but not if you can put it into practice? Someone can recognize that it’s immature to slam doors but still do it. It’s just another way the aamc seperates the poor from the rich
@@scooterankle6709 You missed the "how is that evaluated" part. Currently "not racist" is generally interpreted by the public as "white=bad", and "understanding" interpreted as "uncritical belief of grievance".
@@arspsychologia4401 no it isn’t, not racist is not racist. Idk why people these days are tryna act like racism doesn’t exist and everyone should regress in their behavior
There are now some AACOMAS and TMDSAS schools requiring PREview. So far, the only TMDSAS ones are for any situational judgement test so Casper or PREview will work. medschoolinsiders.com/pre-med/what-schools-require-aamc-preview/
So basically a glorified Casper. I think it will be a test where as long as you pass schools will be willing to admit meanwhile MCAT and GPA will still be what they really choose to accept on
the fact that someone has to run through so many hoops just to get ACCEPTED into the medical school, while suffering a severe shortage of medical staff, and just adding another one... I sincerely think that the United States will have to heavily rely on the foreign doctors to keep the hospitals open
This is dumb. It’s just a way to make more money. To any poor sap who has to take this exam, just make up some BS about communication and always giving the other person the benefit of the doubt and you’ll be fine. Just dumb you have to take it to begin with
Back in my day, the MCAT was a score out of 45, and anything above a 30 was considered solid. The MCAT I took didn't have an essay writing component, it was basically three hour-long sessions of physics/chem, bio/ochem, and reading comprehension lmao.
Thank god there's still no essay writing component (at least when I took it in Jan 2023), but the score needed to be considered "solid" nowadays is just insane. I received an 88th percentile score (514) and I still felt small from seeing the average MCAT scores for each medical school and how many heavy-hitter 520+ applicants there were.
There are a lot of “future doctors” in the replies freaking out about having to study for more than one test. Seriously, what do you think medical school and residency will be like? Spoiler: It doesn’t get easier.
Ah yes let’s add a multiple choice test to test empathy….. literally turning even more pre meds into npcs… What if instead we throw out the stupid mc tests like this and mcat because they aren’t a good measure of someone’s ability to learn and think in a practical sense, which is what we need. I know a guy who got 527 on mcat but would freaked out and called the hospital when he couldn’t hear the patient’s pulse when taking pt blood pressure in a moving, very loud ambulance. I want to be a dr too but srsly there has to be a better way than just throwing more and more tests at us.
I’m guess the scoring criteria is likely to be subjective and the evaluations are subject to bias. I would prefer to see a student who is an independent and free thinker who responds with a comprehensive answer rather than just attempting to conform to the perceived ideology of the people assessing them.
This is phenomenally dumb. Scientific knowledge and reasoning skills are already assessed with the MCAT and by performance in an undergraduate scientific curriculum (ie grades). Communications skills are assessed via the written application and interviews. Medical ethics and medical communications are supposed to be learned through formal and informal instruction throughout med school and, I dare say, residency. So this is a test to determine one’s personal ethics and empathy? This is insulting for sure and likely ineffective. MD/MBA 2004, Columbia, P&S
Lot of school that require it say take it by the time u matriculate. They don’t care about it. Also I know people who have been accepted into schools that require Preview with the a 1. They don’t care about this bs exam
Testing doesn't ensure or guarantee anything. All this translate to $$$$. That is all it is. Business and GREED! And someone will then decide to create a review for this as well. Keep adding more burden on medical students and very few will be able or be willing to study medicine. Doing to much! And even with all this the quality of healthcare patients are receiving is on decline. Focus on what really matters! Patients and their health! Enough is enough!
We obviously don’t want doctors who come into the job and gets mad and starts killing their patient. In my opinion this test is pretty much only necessary if you’re going into fields like surgery where you can’t just show up one day and be mad about stuff and start messing up your job. I do understand this test since some patients will be less inclined to go to doctors who keeps prescribing the medication’s, but they don’t ever get better Or doctors, who lacks the understanding and starts fat shaming people for something that is probably genetic or they can’t control. I am glad that they are using this test to filter our applicants who really wants this job and applicants who are only doing it for the money.
i think thats an optimistic view of this exam, you can still have a "bad" doctor pass with flying marks on this exam as they know how a "perfect" doc or medical student should behave, but once they reach that goal who's to say that this test holds them to that degree once they practice. I think this test is bogus for filtering out premeds who didn't know about this before or don't have the leisure to take it to seem more competitive. I took it last year and the test was ok but tbh it doesn't say how amazing you will be in med school but only how amazing you wanna show them you are when your trying to get in. The definition of fake it till you make it.
Have you seen the questions? "You are volunteering at a well-regarded lokal clinic, but your schedule conflicts with your weekly lab. The lab program is only this semester, so will you miss the two weeks of it in order to work free at the "well-regarded" clinic?" 😂
You think that will solve it? The whole system will turn the sane insane. So even if you pass it, by the time you finish it all, and the fact that shyt happens in life, one cannot help but be less sane.
Religion wars have been going on since the beginning of recorded history. I’m not supporting either side but I am stating that any resolution reached will likely future retaliation and the cycle will repeat.
I thought we need to have more medical professionals? Adding more requirements will simply make things harder, not only for the community as a whole due to the lack of doctors, nurses, and medical technicians, but also make it hard on the students who want to pursue this career path on their own. Everyone has their setbacks, this could be another one of them. Do they seriously want to let less and less people be interested in medicine? It's preposterous.
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Sure just keep adding more requirements to just get into med school, it’s not like the making the doctor shortage problem even worse will very negatively affect patient care in the long run anyways, right?
No correlation. The problem is residency spots not med schools
@truthteller2711 agreed, also we shouldn't lower the standards or make it easier for people to get in simply because of a shortage if we did that then how can you trust that your physician is well educated and able to actually help you do you just want incompetent people to take care of you and your loved ones
This will not affect doctor shortages in the slightest. Anxious premeds need to stop liking this comment.
@@truthteller2711I mean that’s definitely part of the issue but the lack of medical school seats on top of the increasing amount of research hours ect
@@Alex_Amoroso wrong. Increasing medical school seats will do NOTHING except increase the number of unmatched graduates. The fix needs to be from the residency slots end.
Oh wow , so overjoyed! another test I might have to prepare for , especially as a 24 old non trad premed 🙃
The process takes time but you got this 🎉
I’m in the exact same position. It’s really, really overwhelming 😅
how are you non trad if you're 24
24 is pretty trad these days, I’d argue. I’m 36 in a post bacc lol
You will take the test and be happy🫡🫡
I registered for this exam, because I got an email telling me I had to, so I can apply to medical school this cycle. I paid the fee, then checked the AAMC website to find out only a handful of schools require the exam. It’s definitely a cash grab.
how much of the schools are you applying to require this exam?
@@nicolevicente1538 Hi friend! I apologize for the late reply. I’m applying to less than 5 that require the exam. It wasn’t worth it in my opinion. I would wait until it’s mandatory for most or all medical schools to require this exam.
AAMC: We need more Doctors
Also AAMC:
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So happy I refused to take this stupid af exam and still got in to med school this cycle 🙏
🎉 congrats on getting into med school
Hang on, show us the way Jedi
@@ensuingm.d.studyjunkiee8514 Luckily there are still many, many schools that do not require this test and I simply just never signed up for it. My reasoning for that was because even though a school may not require the score, they will still be able to see it on your primary application if you do end up taking it. So, I didn't want to risk anything since I had already taken the Casper test and truly felt that it was a waste of time. As of right now, only 9 schools technically require preview and I wouldn't waste my time on it.
@@muktarmohamud506 Thank you :)
This better not be added. We don’t need more difficulty. We need more doctors to help patient
Ah yes, why not keep med school admissions simplistic so we can pump out more unqualified doctors into the healthcare system. I am glad they are administering this test, because being a doctor is much more than just diagnosing a patient.
@@tomato-v8x I’m not saying do that, but I see your point. People can learn these skills on their own and develop them. It’s not that hard
Do all spots not get filled?
@@tomato-v8xThere are many students who do not make it into med school that would make good doctors.
@@tomato-v8xdiagnosis is the only thing a doctor brings to a medical team
Yes, make it more difficult while the population continues to increase. 👏🏻
I’m not opposed to testing the empathy of future doctors because as patients such as myself have been saying, some people really shouldn’t be in the medical field if they really don’t care about about helping people in need lol. I understand patients can be horrible at times but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about you can’t even handle the everyday of dealing with people, which I’ve seen and experienced myself. However, becoming a doctor is already hard enough I don’t think these individuals need more tests to study for! How about we make medical school cheaper or free? Cancel student debt? ANYTHING ELSE before we add more test to an already stressed out group of people.
My concern, in addition to the price, is that people, even though they are doctors, are the individuals who are creating the rubric. Just because a group of doctors believe something is effective, does not mean it is effective in practicality- its totally subjective.
@@avgstudent4.0agreed. And how is this small group of doctors’ responses rate my answers on their subjective responses? It’s so arbitrary to make the answer choices very effective or effective? What difference does it make? It’s either the right answer or not. Ridiculous.
Agreed.
Fuck this. We just need more off time to get our empathy, mental health, and professionalism intact. Some may come in with the best etiquette, professionalism, and empathy and then it gets beaten out of our bodies as time goes on.
More barriers to entry. As if studying 6 months for the MCAT wasn’t already a huge advantage on a student who is well off vs someone who needs to work full time because they don’t come from money… Im tired of old rich men in suits making these bullshit barriers.
Thank god I got accepted and am starting med school this summer. The requirements for med school keep getting worse with every passing year.
Another one, I'm going to go insane💞
These situational judgement tests are horrific. I had to take Casper for a few of my schools I applied to. They give you subjective situations, and then have random people objectively grade you, which by definition leads to inconsistent grading.
IMO, the goal of what these kinds of tests try to find out is what an interview is for.
Make the aamc take this test so they can finally realize how little empathy they have for anyone other than the rich
Seems identical to the existing UCAT Situational Judgement Test in the UK and Australia - perhaps check out some of those resources during prep!
But people can just memorize and learn how to sound sympathetic and like they know how to handle these situations…. Anybody can fake it. It doesn’t mean they actually have compassion.
Compassion and empathy are different things. At a certain point, many doctors just stop "feeling" for their patients. But that doesn't mean they can't still offer kind and nurturing patient care.
Is there actually a point to Casper and PREview? There’s already so much we have to do get into a med school, why make everything even more complicated when there’s a shortage of doctors?
Sure there is a shortage of doctors, but we can’t just have anybody become medical professionals. Patients care a lot more about how the doctor is perceived rather than how much doctors there is.
If you can’t even show understanding to a patient and understand their situation firsthand then how can you even connect with your patient? How can you even help them if they can’t even open up and talk to you?
@@aviatorsound914 what’s the reason for making the test a $100 then? Is an arbitrary score really how we want to test empathy, professionalism, and all of the above when the test just looks for if you can recognize when to act right but not if you can put it into practice? Someone can recognize that it’s immature to slam doors but still do it. It’s just another way the aamc seperates the poor from the rich
@@aviatorsound914why implement it befire med school and not during rotations where youll get first hand patient judgment?
Please elaborate on what “cultural humility” is & how it is evaluated.
"F Whitey". Elaboration done.
Not racist and understanding, genius
@@scooterankle6709 You missed the "how is that evaluated" part. Currently "not racist" is generally interpreted by the public as "white=bad", and "understanding" interpreted as "uncritical belief of grievance".
@@arspsychologia4401Yeah you’re gonna fail that section buddy 😂
@@arspsychologia4401 no it isn’t, not racist is not racist. Idk why people these days are tryna act like racism doesn’t exist and everyone should regress in their behavior
dudee ... yes invent a new way to make people less inclined to join the medical workforce.
Im glad im not from the US f this proffession and f the whole educational system behind it
Out of all other exams this seems more sensible. Testing empathy is good way to check if you are qualified
Empathetic humans understand that empathy cannot be quantified. This test is useless
Hey, why don't you create a video explaining the career of Optometry?
💰 testing grab
Just when you think this rat race can’t get any worse… I’m relieved I got in last year. I can’t imagine what it would be like later on
Haha I’m in med school already but thank God TMDSAS probably won’t require the Preview exam
There are now some AACOMAS and TMDSAS schools requiring PREview. So far, the only TMDSAS ones are for any situational judgement test so Casper or PREview will work. medschoolinsiders.com/pre-med/what-schools-require-aamc-preview/
Honestly I wouldn’t care if they didn’t charge an insane astronomical fee for all pre requirements and application fees. It’s too expensive.
You forgot to mention you can only take it FOUR TIMES
he implied it with the four heart icons displayed on the screen...
So basically a glorified Casper. I think it will be a test where as long as you pass schools will be willing to admit meanwhile MCAT and GPA will still be what they really choose to accept on
What exactly is the AAMC's end game?
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the fact that someone has to run through so many hoops just to get ACCEPTED into the medical school, while suffering a severe shortage of medical staff, and just adding another one... I sincerely think that the United States will have to heavily rely on the foreign doctors to keep the hospitals open
Will we ever get a "so you wanna be a public health/medicine doctor?"
This is dumb. It’s just a way to make more money. To any poor sap who has to take this exam, just make up some BS about communication and always giving the other person the benefit of the doubt and you’ll be fine. Just dumb you have to take it to begin with
Is casper pretty much the same thing?
Yeah but the AAMC don’t get the money so they made this 😂
Back in my day, the MCAT was a score out of 45, and anything above a 30 was considered solid. The MCAT I took didn't have an essay writing component, it was basically three hour-long sessions of physics/chem, bio/ochem, and reading comprehension lmao.
Thank god there's still no essay writing component (at least when I took it in Jan 2023), but the score needed to be considered "solid" nowadays is just insane. I received an 88th percentile score (514) and I still felt small from seeing the average MCAT scores for each medical school and how many heavy-hitter 520+ applicants there were.
Took preview last year and it's such garbage.
There are a lot of “future doctors” in the replies freaking out about having to study for more than one test. Seriously, what do you think medical school and residency will be like? Spoiler: It doesn’t get easier.
Ah yes let’s add a multiple choice test to test empathy….. literally turning even more pre meds into npcs…
What if instead we throw out the stupid mc tests like this and mcat because they aren’t a good measure of someone’s ability to learn and think in a practical sense, which is what we need. I know a guy who got 527 on mcat but would freaked out and called the hospital when he couldn’t hear the patient’s pulse when taking pt blood pressure in a moving, very loud ambulance.
I want to be a dr too but srsly there has to be a better way than just throwing more and more tests at us.
AAMC just mad they couldn’t get the profit from Casper so they made this garbage 😂😂😂
Good. We need more standardized objective measures instead of weighing GPA significantly.
I’m guess the scoring criteria is likely to be subjective and the evaluations are subject to bias. I would prefer to see a student who is an independent and free thinker who responds with a comprehensive answer rather than just attempting to conform to the perceived ideology of the people assessing them.
There's some subjectivity to the scoring criteria but no bias to evaluations since it is a multiple choice exam.
What a boring dystopia we live in
This is phenomenally dumb.
Scientific knowledge and reasoning skills are already assessed with the MCAT and by performance in an undergraduate scientific curriculum (ie grades).
Communications skills are assessed via the written application and interviews.
Medical ethics and medical communications are supposed to be learned through formal and informal instruction throughout med school and, I dare say, residency.
So this is a test to determine one’s personal ethics and empathy? This is insulting for sure and likely ineffective.
MD/MBA 2004, Columbia, P&S
another money gauging technique
Nothing is going to change until students realize that the real issue is a class and not a racial issue.
Lot of school that require it say take it by the time u matriculate. They don’t care about it.
Also I know people who have been accepted into schools that require Preview with the a 1. They don’t care about this bs exam
Haven’t seen the video yet but please say sike
Edit: okay never mind that’s not that bad
Testing doesn't ensure or guarantee anything. All this translate to $$$$. That is all it is. Business and GREED! And someone will then decide to create a review for this as well. Keep adding more burden on medical students and very few will be able or be willing to study medicine. Doing to much! And even with all this the quality of healthcare patients are receiving is on decline. Focus on what really matters! Patients and their health! Enough is enough!
We obviously don’t want doctors who come into the job and gets mad and starts killing their patient. In my opinion this test is pretty much only necessary if you’re going into fields like surgery where you can’t just show up one day and be mad about stuff and start messing up your job.
I do understand this test since some patients will be less inclined to go to doctors who keeps prescribing the medication’s, but they don’t ever get better Or doctors, who lacks the understanding and starts fat shaming people for something that is probably genetic or they can’t control.
I am glad that they are using this test to filter our applicants who really wants this job and applicants who are only doing it for the money.
i think thats an optimistic view of this exam, you can still have a "bad" doctor pass with flying marks on this exam as they know how a "perfect" doc or medical student should behave, but once they reach that goal who's to say that this test holds them to that degree once they practice. I think this test is bogus for filtering out premeds who didn't know about this before or don't have the leisure to take it to seem more competitive. I took it last year and the test was ok but tbh it doesn't say how amazing you will be in med school but only how amazing you wanna show them you are when your trying to get in. The definition of fake it till you make it.
Have you seen the questions?
"You are volunteering at a well-regarded lokal clinic, but your schedule conflicts with your weekly lab. The lab program is only this semester, so will you miss the two weeks of it in order to work free at the "well-regarded" clinic?" 😂
You think that will solve it? The whole system will turn the sane insane. So even if you pass it, by the time you finish it all, and the fact that shyt happens in life, one cannot help but be less sane.
I took it because one school on my list required it... it's a straight up garbage exam.
Meanwhile in india we are only increasing reservation to find the 'talent', 🙃👍
Dang. All that for someone who just wants to be a pathologist...
Bruh another hoop to jump through... man these people smfh
AAMC getting rich
Niceeeee another cash grab by the AAMC 😂😂😂
Seeing medical schools require this and then stay silent on the genocide in Gaza is top tier irony
Religion wars have been going on since the beginning of recorded history. I’m not supporting either side but I am stating that any resolution reached will likely future retaliation and the cycle will repeat.
DEI
cash grab
I thought we need to have more medical professionals? Adding more requirements will simply make things harder, not only for the community as a whole due to the lack of doctors, nurses, and medical technicians, but also make it hard on the students who want to pursue this career path on their own. Everyone has their setbacks, this could be another one of them. Do they seriously want to let less and less people be interested in medicine? It's preposterous.
Just another filter to students.... this is getting out of hand
and another cash grab probably