You getting a second chance in my book man. Sucks to see the response to your return because I for one was so excited to see the first Athene onlyfangs episode and have been loving the content. Thanks for the entertainment ‘thene. Stay the course.
I was shocked to hear you would be okay giving away all permission. I was even MORE shocked hearing people still having a problem with it even after giving all permissions?? That is so stupid. People wanting to leave the guild because of it? Christ those people need to get over themselves.
the addon is really sick and when i heard them first talk about it i thought it was a great idea and its something that would make people stick around longer
The fact that you are willing to wipe anything related to you from the addon and give all permissions/ownership away AS WELL AS making it public for anyone who wants to review the code should be more than enough for anyone with a brain. I'll be honest I haven't even heard the name Athene for YEARS until I started watching OnlyFangs content from time to time. I hope they figure it out man, it's a great looking addon and it deserves to be used.
Great addon, great work Athene. All the haters are just jealous of the fact that you can make a great addon. Keep it up 💪 I love you are back, the last videos brought a smile back to my face 🤙
Athene doing a "how do you do fellow edgy wow content creators" and then being confused by this new generation of autistic screechers gives me a very weird feeling of getting old
It's always the people who can't contribute anything who tear down those who can. Let's see them make an addon. It's so much easier to criticize than it is to build something. It takes a lot of hard work to make something like this. Either you're a pro or you're a noob. That's life.
I'm an addon developer and this isn't anything special, honestly. The front end is just a copy of the auction house interface XML. The backend uses an, private, chat channel and is probably password protected but any competent person could mess with the data being sent. It looks impressive but that's about it.
You're right, as soon as someone has an 'idea' or 'thought' about who you are, they won't bother to check, they just believe you're bad and that's that. People can be redeemed, and go to large lengths to do so. However, others who can't be bothered will only ever see you one way. It's sad and comes down to that how hard people find it to change their minds if the hive mind tells them "Don't look"
Sorry you're havin to deal with this. The problem is, even if you did something (I don't know), there should always be a path to redemption and people should be willing to stand behind that.
Never believed the rumours, people are stupid and have heads stuck up their asses... cancel culture is too strong and way too many follow the hatetrains like sheep. I support you and wish you and your crew all the best!
What I find so sad is that he is always like that. Very humble and giving. People just can't seem to believe it. Which in this day and age is understandable. But it's also very sad to see him being attacked all the time.
I have followed WoW since the early days, I remember the Athene videos that absolutely revolutionized gaming content in general. I also remember the accusations, drama, and admittedly sometimes Athene taking things too far. However, I do believe that people deserve redemption of that's what they seek whether that's a true redemption or a reputational one - I think this should have ended when you offered to sign all permissions away. They could have the code independently reviewed for not that much money/ time at all and then he absolutely positive it's a safe addon, and then play with you if they choose and determine your character for themselves. Most of these streamers are too young to even remember you (no offense it's just been a bit since you were THE WoW guy)
ive seen old wow veterans doing easy mistakes just because they skipped low level content during the old days , wowhobbs died due to unfamilarity in wc ,guzu never seen an elite mob in wc outside the dungeon -same mob ive taken down at least 40 times - all these wower streamers doing only 60 content before - but i guess this is really fun for them but i find the low content easy and anyoing , the opposite of these "experts - if die to lowlevel contnt then its involvea another player
It's actually pathetic, but it's also the internet and people just don't get over years old bs, at the end of the day, this was a benefit to all members, with or without Athene, and people just want to ruin a good thing
@@friski-fn8os Its cringe how many times I've seen this comment and yet other than his mobile gaming arc which is inheritly predatory, but entirely legal, I've yet to see proof on anything else that shows any malicious intent, just people too dumb to see the 4th wall level satire that his content was always built on. Athene is and always has been the ultimate troll to a degree where even when you're certain he's joking you still can't be sure. At the end of the day he will always be what you think he is because your mind is to small to think anything else.
@ you think this many people would really get this angry if he didn’t clearly do anything bad? Ironic how you talk about a small mind while not being able to comprehend common sense.
How can you hate Athene?! 😂 Dude was hilarous back in the day, paved the way for all these kids really if you think about it. It’s a damn video game, let the guy play, he’s an elite rank 1 gladiator 😂
I remember him on emeriss s1/s2 of TBC spamming the general chat in IF "Athene best pala World" etc :'D, join him for some 3s one day(it was a free boost pretty much) we got on his disc and first of all he was a pretty chill dude tbf, didnt except that. And he was actually insane for that time thinking about it retrospectively.
@ right?! He was an elite pvp’er back then, and also made everyone laugh and enjoy the game even more. His videos were hilarious 🤣 that Viking dude 🤣🤣🤣
@@johnnyboi90 creepy posts... don't worry he will delete anything that makes a negative comment, I'm sure. Funny how anyone only remembers these trivial things that don't matter... Not a single comment about what people truly dislike him for. Truly his fanbase is either children or idiots.
It's sad that people can't see past their own prejudice of "Athene". Even after he takes his name off the add-on and makes it opensource. Common sense is no longer common.
In what other area would you totally discount past (serious) transgressions when considering someone's subsequent offerings? This is a pretty silly approach.
Why do people boycott R Kelly songs? He made good music, but history matters. You don't want to support/promote/give a platform to "bad people". I'm not saying Athene deserves that label, idk. But this is what people think and if he deserves it, that's totally valid. If the addon gets promoted, it will promote Athene too regardless of who owns it. Everyone knows he made it.
@@gopez93 in any type of publicly available software that can be checked by anyone lol? And it's free so it's not like you're supporting him or anything. These takes are just ignorant regardless of what you think of athene the person
You and your team really did an anstonishingly great job on this addon - and - In all honesty, I think this should be natively implemented or give access to the general community
The fact it functions as a lfg for the guild as well would do wonders for them. They are constantly asking who's up for shit and looking for people. Sucks they still won't use it after you told them you'll give them full development perms and even help with implementing features.
Ugh as a dev, its also really heartbreaking when you put so much effort into something for a specific reason for someone that says they want the app.... then they are like... NAH... its rough
Tbh I kinda miss when you were a presence in the gaming space, WoW, D3 etc. Not just the humor or even the world first stuff specifically, but the approach that you brought in new ideas and coming up with unique methods to succeed and approach to mechanics. Content like that on youtube feels so copypaste with creators and there's not a lot of people left who approach the games like that. Would be great to see you return to more game centric content.
I wonder if these ppl judge their own friends and family history the way they judge Athene. Imagine dedicating thousands of hours to raise money for starving children in the past, and somehow being remembered as a scam artist. I suppose at the end of the day, it's to be expected to some degree. The people who feel the strongest about this are folks whose entire life experience and bubble revolves around staring at a screen and talking to people in 1's and 0's. There is very little, if any real-life interaction and responsibility--let alone the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
it's okay Athene let them prove to us they are not real wow players. let them remind us they know not of the true heart of this game. witch if they did, they would know you are part of that heart.
Just keep presence and showing face; I feel like from what I've seen recently, you're doing good and turned a new leaf and back to your oldways. Everybody deserves second chances & and you just gotta prove that you're worth that and like I said I feel like you're doing good on that front
Its both sad, but very gracious of Athene to offer a transfer of ownership of the addon to the guild, its clear to me that Athene just wants to help people out. Just because some scrubs finds athenes past dubious. Instead of just saying "his past", effing say what it is ure skeptical about and lets all address it. Its really starting to piss me off how people are treating this.
they beholden to their viewers. Because of the way parasocial works they are afraid to alienate viewers. Which I do understand but once you start down this road, when does it stop? As far as I can remember the whole cult thing was just playing it up because people tried to act like Athene was a cult leader. the one dude that made a doc about athene that wasn't true. After that I have no clue as I haven't really followed Athene in awhile.
when people get to stand behind "hate" they don't respect people who work for community , and the ORIGIONAL social aspects that are being removed from VANILLA
*ATHAAAAANE* I love ya dude! Can’t tell you how much me and others needed Athene back. It feels so good!! Thank you for all that you do, but especially for Athene
I know nothing about athene's past but given the willingness to turn over all ownership and being completely open to people reviewing the code at the very least this addon seems clean
Basically he quit WoW to set up a cult around a religion called Athenism and got people to all move to a house with him. A streamer house of sorts. When he says "the guys we have here put together the addon," people would assume that he is talking about his cult members. Look up "Athene's Theory Of Everything" for more information. If I recall correctly it is based on a lot of hermetic principals. The Law of Attraction type stuff. It was extremely random and came out of nowhere so people are still pretty put off by it to this day. The randomness of him doing that in and of itself is offputting. Dude went from playing WoW to creating a whole religion over night with zero foreshadowing lol.. Due to having a vetting and selection process, people likened it to Scientology. Not sure if money was the goal. Kinda think he does believe a lot of what he preached in that video. Afaik, Athene hasn't genuinely scammed anyone in the traditional sense. So the response from OnlyFangs is a little dramatic.
@@FlexGC We're all trolls to a degree, and the whole cult thing was clearly a joke. The crypto stuff...I think it was half joking but half real. I've been around since day dot of Athene being a thing, and knowing all I know I still think it's absurd to say you don't trust Athene. He is one of the originals and even with all his trolling in the past, this guy went out of his way and spent 3 weeks of his time creating a content machine for these lackluster streamers who can't create their own entertaining content and all he got in return was people questioning if he can be trusted.
This is sad. I hope you bounce back and like get shit in there. Like not be sad but happy and successful and that excitement that I felt when I clicked on your VOD and Soda was addressing the add on comes back
Who? Man i love this drama that random talkers of the internet have. I wonder if they turn off and live a normal life or are losers 100% of the time. Subject and creators of the videos. Anyways gonna go hang out with real people
Also, the addon is just Lua in the end. It's a script, it's open source (you can obfuscate, but not close source Lua). I doubt you obfuscate the code, because you want to gain trust, and people can easily run the whole addon through AI to verify it doesn't contain harmful things. If there was a problem with the addon, people would've noticed by now.
Athene pretty much marked my childhood and early yt days. Yeah hes done some sketchy stuff in the past but also a lot of good. If he wants to start with a clean slate and bring back Athene I'm all for it.
Petty. I mean code is code, and if ownership transfer is being proposed then a code review can be done. Or can't they read code or interpret it? Jeez, beyond petty.
I am not surprised some people are against it, even though you gave all the ownership. Reputation is the most important thing in this world and yours is unfortunately tarnished. Now, don't get me wrong, I have no issue with Athene and according to my own research I know you always had good intentions. But people have limited attention span and willpower and they will at one point just give up trying to understand or empathize. I've seen it happen to people in my life who just gave up on me.
Athene might be a scammer, cult leader, and fraud...but we have all forgotten that he is also THE BEST PALADIN IN THE WORLD!!! Addon looks awesome, and some people just want to hate without remembering who paved the way. If the addon is code reviewed and is legit I don't see any reason why streamers wouldn't want it...the bankrupt feature is pure content.
Art is NOT the artist. Knives aren't killers. Hammers don't build homes. Regardless of your past, even IF all of it is true which I highly doubt, you in your current frame of mind and place in time made this. If it passes code review and is not found to contain no malicious actions or similar things then it SHOULD be used. This is very clearly a passion project by yourself created with the sole intent of allowing for easier access to and more content for these players / streamers. If those same people are willing to be stubborn fucknuts who would rather flaunt their supposed moral superiority then they don't need to use it, endorse it, or promote it. You do not have a gun to anyone's head screaming at them to download and tell everyone to download it and that they love you and you never did anything wrong and are perfect. You built a tool. A GOOD tool. This is a hill worth dying on, and you should fight on it because they will all fold before they take you out. There aren't enough 2/10 halfbaked breadtuber hour long slopdrama ""documentaries"" any of them could shit out that invalidities the genuine good that your addon entails. PLEASE do not give in to the spastic whining of groupthinkers.
As I said in a comment reply, Athene went out of his way to make a content machine for these lackluster streamers that clearly can't make any interesting content themselves, or this idea wouldn't have spawned, and all they do in return is question him. The fact a code review was mentioned says all I need to know about these people. They think he's infecting/trolling them with his addon when all he did was try to help. I know all too well about Athene's past, and even I think it's INSANE to think he's up to something sinister. Grow up.
Always thought about making a kult that does the exact opposite: encourages people to be more social/self-improvement/participate in volunteer work/form small hobby groups etc.... but this makes me realize that all it takes is a few morons with accusations to bring you down. Then you have the more cynical people who don't care for the truth but are just glad to have ammo...
Lets ignore everything in this context except for the addon, the addon is a blessing for all the streamers and like u said provides them with so much more content. Them refusing to use it because of your rep is just them killing the HC hype faster
Can someone TLDR the reason why people are uncomfortable with Athene? I don't want to watch a 1-hour video on it, but I'm assuming there's some valid concerns if people want to gquit.
Athene also addressed the accusations and what happened when he was taken down as well as the consequences of that action in his stream just before releasing episode 2 of "Athene in OnlyFangs". So any doubters (which are people, judging by the opinion on their chat and not having actual self opinion or reason or proof of anything) can go check that out, as he and Maral pretty much covered the whole story of what happened back in the day :) And because I've seen it live - I can tell you it covers everything - from the videos, to gamingforgood, to the religion, to the cancelation, to the scam/crypto accusations - everything! Stay strong 1337 king!
touch some grass if you are offended by this addon, and im pretty sure ppl that would gquit over this are not even worthy keeping,don't hold this addon back becasue of couple toxic individuals
Amazing addon! One question though, I didn’t play wow for a very long time. Just technically what you have built, would this be possible back in the days with real vanilla? Or is it something new?
Athene you're a legend, the addon is legit. Regardless of your past this is a nice piece of professional quality addon development. It was great to see you back on warcraft !
You know I've been subbed to you since the old athene number one paladin in the world days. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for these people to actually just look you up and watch everything. It's also crazy considering the app is entirely open source.
i've spent years.. since like 2014 learning to write addons. i'm impressed. i always wonder what sort of person spends literally their entire time in the game writing code... got a github? i'd follow. maybe even contribute
Its insane ppl hating on athene, like wtf man. Dude was a politician and king of youtube. Ppl should respect athene, he was helping kids get food and ppl all the time. Media can really mess things up for no reason
It's alright Athene. There's a major problem with these big streamers fanbases where they just make blind accusations based off random youtube videos with lack of any proof. Been watching you since I was 13 years old man, you're a true legend in my eyes and the true fans will always be here to watch.
i mean... if they dont want to use the addon then dont use the addon. But dont hold people hostage and make it where nobody can if they if they want too, thats fucking dumb
You should just put the add-on on curse Forge and make it so anyone can use it any Guild not just only fangs if they're going to s*** on your work and then take ownership and Fiat add-on for everyone I would love to use it for my guild
I understand where Soda and the people feeling uncomfortable are coming from but I also understand Athene. Very unlucky to see, this mightve helped smaller content creators make their own content reacting to deaths or vice versa , giving them exposure by the bigger streamers reacting to the deaths more frequently as its right there instead of being cherry picked by the community. Hated your past , Athene , wouldve loved a propper positive comeback. Godspeed
All the review bombs on CurseForge are by Tosog, he’s still salty about the powerleveling record and he’s farming Karazhan while Athens’s in full T6.
have u seen his gameplay? i Have never seen someone so bad at this game to be honest. did he had a stroke or something?
Tosog really did bring hundred thousand fans this time. Fak.
I'ma rewatch the vid with Tosog just for the lols.
German druid with 1 day 4 hours is about to get OWNED SCHWFF SCHWFF
and mooncow
Makes sense.. that loser is going to be last-years news.
You getting a second chance in my book man. Sucks to see the response to your return because I for one was so excited to see the first Athene onlyfangs episode and have been loving the content. Thanks for the entertainment ‘thene. Stay the course.
I was shocked to hear you would be okay giving away all permission. I was even MORE shocked hearing people still having a problem with it even after giving all permissions?? That is so stupid. People wanting to leave the guild because of it? Christ those people need to get over themselves.
what people ?
Hes just trying to get in the Lump again. So cute.
@@Gurupimp10 It's cuter seeing streamers and other shit kickers pretend to be outraged.
@ Why Suc Athene tho? Cute couple.
@@Gurupimp10 if it helps him raise more money for good causes then why not
This man out here doing more for wow classic than 99% of players and he's getting hate. People fucking suck bro
So what is he doing for WoW classic? He made a addon for a streamer guild lul
@@gentlemandevils2983 Its downloadable so that means anyone can use it now id assume for thier own guilds.
@@gentlemandevils2983 A streamer guild that like 50,000 people watch everyday...
the addon is really sick and when i heard them first talk about it i thought it was a great idea and its something that would make people stick around longer
They're scared of the RANK 1 GLADIATOR ATHENE
Rank 1 Cultivator ATHENE
Both are great though @@sorz6621
The fact that you are willing to wipe anything related to you from the addon and give all permissions/ownership away AS WELL AS making it public for anyone who wants to review the code should be more than enough for anyone with a brain. I'll be honest I haven't even heard the name Athene for YEARS until I started watching OnlyFangs content from time to time. I hope they figure it out man, it's a great looking addon and it deserves to be used.
WoW addons aren't compiled so anyone can review the code of any addon, this has always been the case.
@sylviawylie9218 Even more reason for them to chill out. The addon could enhance their content, why would they not want that?
Great addon, great work Athene. All the haters are just jealous of the fact that you can make a great addon. Keep it up 💪 I love you are back, the last videos brought a smile back to my face 🤙
Athene doing a "how do you do fellow edgy wow content creators" and then being confused by this new generation of autistic screechers gives me a very weird feeling of getting old
Let those scrubs /gquit. They weren't even born when Athene was owning their dads back in the day.
It's always the people who can't contribute anything who tear down those who can. Let's see them make an addon. It's so much easier to criticize than it is to build something. It takes a lot of hard work to make something like this. Either you're a pro or you're a noob. That's life.
I'm an addon developer and this isn't anything special, honestly. The front end is just a copy of the auction house interface XML. The backend uses an, private, chat channel and is probably password protected but any competent person could mess with the data being sent. It looks impressive but that's about it.
@@Eyevou the shade is real with you
ai did this for him loo
@ What shade? I'm just being honest. The addon is a fancy bulletin board dressed up to look like the auction house.
@@Eyevou so, what's the problem with it? seems like a pretty cool idea
checked out the addon yesterday. Found it useful in some ways thought it was super cool and looked good.
You're right, as soon as someone has an 'idea' or 'thought' about who you are, they won't bother to check, they just believe you're bad and that's that.
People can be redeemed, and go to large lengths to do so. However, others who can't be bothered will only ever see you one way. It's sad and comes down to that how hard people find it to change their minds if the hive mind tells them "Don't look"
Sorry you're havin to deal with this. The problem is, even if you did something (I don't know), there should always be a path to redemption and people should be willing to stand behind that.
Never believed the rumours, people are stupid and have heads stuck up their asses... cancel culture is too strong and way too many follow the hatetrains like sheep. I support you and wish you and your crew all the best!
That was incredibly humble and gracious of you to suggest to give the full ownership to the guild.
What I find so sad is that he is always like that. Very humble and giving. People just can't seem to believe it. Which in this day and age is understandable. But it's also very sad to see him being attacked all the time.
i saw a lot of people using it for death clips
I have followed WoW since the early days, I remember the Athene videos that absolutely revolutionized gaming content in general.
I also remember the accusations, drama, and admittedly sometimes Athene taking things too far.
However, I do believe that people deserve redemption of that's what they seek whether that's a true redemption or a reputational one - I think this should have ended when you offered to sign all permissions away.
They could have the code independently reviewed for not that much money/ time at all and then he absolutely positive it's a safe addon, and then play with you if they choose and determine your character for themselves.
Most of these streamers are too young to even remember you (no offense it's just been a bit since you were THE WoW guy)
ive seen old wow veterans doing easy mistakes just because they skipped low level content during the old days , wowhobbs died due to unfamilarity in wc ,guzu never seen an elite mob in wc outside the dungeon -same mob ive taken down at least 40 times - all these wower streamers doing only 60 content before - but i guess this is really fun for them but i find the low content easy and anyoing , the opposite of these "experts - if die to lowlevel contnt then its involvea another player
At the same time was also PurePwnage :D
It's actually pathetic, but it's also the internet and people just don't get over years old bs, at the end of the day, this was a benefit to all members, with or without Athene, and people just want to ruin a good thing
Athene was a cult leader and a scammer its not pathetic to not want anything to do with this guy.
@@xcrewx2 AtHeNe WaS cUlT lEaDeR
The addon looks amazing. I am here to support athene
That is such an amazing idea for the guild. They need this.
tbh this actually looks like a great and interesting addon. canceling it because it's from athene is just plain stupid.
its almost as if his actions had consequences. crazy how trust works.
@@friski-fn8os crazy how code reviews work.
@@friski-fn8os Its cringe how many times I've seen this comment and yet other than his mobile gaming arc which is inheritly predatory, but entirely legal, I've yet to see proof on anything else that shows any malicious intent, just people too dumb to see the 4th wall level satire that his content was always built on. Athene is and always has been the ultimate troll to a degree where even when you're certain he's joking you still can't be sure.
At the end of the day he will always be what you think he is because your mind is to small to think anything else.
@ lil bro didn’t see the videos that made it to #1 trending cause of moistcriticals breakdown which got literally millions of views.
@ you think this many people would really get this angry if he didn’t clearly do anything bad? Ironic how you talk about a small mind while not being able to comprehend common sense.
Gquitting over an addon is petty. At the end of the day its a content guild and people love to stir drama over nothing.
How can you hate Athene?! 😂 Dude was hilarous back in the day, paved the way for all these kids really if you think about it. It’s a damn video game, let the guy play, he’s an elite rank 1 gladiator 😂
I remember him on emeriss s1/s2 of TBC spamming the general chat in IF "Athene best pala World" etc :'D, join him for some 3s one day(it was a free boost pretty much) we got on his disc and first of all he was a pretty chill dude tbf, didnt except that. And he was actually insane for that time thinking about it retrospectively.
@ right?! He was an elite pvp’er back then, and also made everyone laugh and enjoy the game even more. His videos were hilarious 🤣 that Viking dude 🤣🤣🤣
@@johnnyboi90 creepy posts... don't worry he will delete anything that makes a negative comment, I'm sure. Funny how anyone only remembers these trivial things that don't matter... Not a single comment about what people truly dislike him for. Truly his fanbase is either children or idiots.
@@WalknTalknStevnHawkn So the entire reason he streamed and we were introduced to him in the first place is trivial? 🤔
LETS GO CAST THAT HOLY LIGHT, BEST PALADIN IN THE WORLD!!
OG players that dont like athene are scrubbs i think athene is a genius :)
I only wonder what is the reasons they don't like him...
Because he is better.. only that@@netspidercz
Join the cult gang
athene out here still filming monitors, gotta respect it
It's sad that people can't see past their own prejudice of "Athene". Even after he takes his name off the add-on and makes it opensource. Common sense is no longer common.
It's not prejudice if it's based on something that has infact happened.
@@imyournme6632 what happened?
@@imyournme6632 The onus of proof is on the one who accuses, if you want to testify then do it properly
@ he openly scams people out of money to use it for stuff he deems are moral
@@imyournme6632 so your saying hes the goverment?
I don't care about the history, that app looks fantastic for its purpose.
In what other area would you totally discount past (serious) transgressions when considering someone's subsequent offerings? This is a pretty silly approach.
Why do people boycott R Kelly songs? He made good music, but history matters. You don't want to support/promote/give a platform to "bad people".
I'm not saying Athene deserves that label, idk. But this is what people think and if he deserves it, that's totally valid. If the addon gets promoted, it will promote Athene too regardless of who owns it. Everyone knows he made it.
@@gopez93 in any type of publicly available software that can be checked by anyone lol? And it's free so it's not like you're supporting him or anything. These takes are just ignorant regardless of what you think of athene the person
@@gopez93 so basically something that happens on the internet daily?
@@gopez93 Tiktok, Trump, I think he is looking at the big picture and you are not.
this is just the beginning, im looking forward to the future of OnlyFangs x Athene
Don't hate the art because of the artist. The addon is well-made.
You and your team really did an anstonishingly great job on this addon - and - In all honesty, I think this should be natively implemented or give access to the general community
The fact it functions as a lfg for the guild as well would do wonders for them. They are constantly asking who's up for shit and looking for people. Sucks they still won't use it after you told them you'll give them full development perms and even help with implementing features.
Ugh as a dev, its also really heartbreaking when you put so much effort into something for a specific reason for someone that says they want the app.... then they are like... NAH... its rough
people still cant think around the corner
Tbh I kinda miss when you were a presence in the gaming space, WoW, D3 etc. Not just the humor or even the world first stuff specifically, but the approach that you brought in new ideas and coming up with unique methods to succeed and approach to mechanics. Content like that on youtube feels so copypaste with creators and there's not a lot of people left who approach the games like that. Would be great to see you return to more game centric content.
I wonder if these ppl judge their own friends and family history the way they judge Athene. Imagine dedicating thousands of hours to raise money for starving children in the past, and somehow being remembered as a scam artist. I suppose at the end of the day, it's to be expected to some degree. The people who feel the strongest about this are folks whose entire life experience and bubble revolves around staring at a screen and talking to people in 1's and 0's. There is very little, if any real-life interaction and responsibility--let alone the ability to distinguish fact from fiction.
it's okay Athene let them prove to us they are not real wow players. let them remind us they know not of the true heart of this game. witch if they did, they would know you are part of that heart.
people are idiots, you're a good guy imo, addon is great. People just hop onto the trend train and never think for themselves.
Just keep presence and showing face; I feel like from what I've seen recently, you're doing good and turned a new leaf and back to your oldways. Everybody deserves second chances & and you just gotta prove that you're worth that and like I said I feel like you're doing good on that front
I don't care if you're a cult leader bring back the Asmongold Ai on the athene show that was funny
Screw the haters, keep making good content, you got this brotha.
Its both sad, but very gracious of Athene to offer a transfer of ownership of the addon to the guild, its clear to me that Athene just wants to help people out. Just because some scrubs finds athenes past dubious. Instead of just saying "his past", effing say what it is ure skeptical about and lets all address it. Its really starting to piss me off how people are treating this.
These wow streamers are so soft of mind, it's incredible they got this far in life.
they beholden to their viewers. Because of the way parasocial works they are afraid to alienate viewers. Which I do understand but once you start down this road, when does it stop? As far as I can remember the whole cult thing was just playing it up because people tried to act like Athene was a cult leader. the one dude that made a doc about athene that wasn't true. After that I have no clue as I haven't really followed Athene in awhile.
when people get to stand behind "hate" they don't respect people who work for community , and the ORIGIONAL social aspects that are being removed from VANILLA
It's great to see ya round the scene again. Keep ya head up.
*ATHAAAAANE*
I love ya dude! Can’t tell you how much me and others needed Athene back. It feels so good!! Thank you for all that you do, but especially for Athene
In my opinion these people outed themselves and should leave OnlyFangs, voluntarily, they don't have the best interest of OnlyFangs at heart.
I know nothing about athene's past but given the willingness to turn over all ownership and being completely open to people reviewing the code at the very least this addon seems clean
He is a troll and maybe legit or faux cult leader.
@@FlexGC and if you don't give him the option to be something else?
Basically he quit WoW to set up a cult around a religion called Athenism and got people to all move to a house with him. A streamer house of sorts. When he says "the guys we have here put together the addon," people would assume that he is talking about his cult members. Look up "Athene's Theory Of Everything" for more information. If I recall correctly it is based on a lot of hermetic principals. The Law of Attraction type stuff. It was extremely random and came out of nowhere so people are still pretty put off by it to this day. The randomness of him doing that in and of itself is offputting. Dude went from playing WoW to creating a whole religion over night with zero foreshadowing lol.. Due to having a vetting and selection process, people likened it to Scientology. Not sure if money was the goal. Kinda think he does believe a lot of what he preached in that video.
Afaik, Athene hasn't genuinely scammed anyone in the traditional sense. So the response from OnlyFangs is a little dramatic.
@@FlexGC Time to move on buddy, atleast he owns his mistakes. Go look at someone like Adan Ross who do what he did once, daily and is still massive.
@@FlexGC We're all trolls to a degree, and the whole cult thing was clearly a joke. The crypto stuff...I think it was half joking but half real.
I've been around since day dot of Athene being a thing, and knowing all I know I still think it's absurd to say you don't trust Athene. He is one of the originals and even with all his trolling in the past, this guy went out of his way and spent 3 weeks of his time creating a content machine for these lackluster streamers who can't create their own entertaining content and all he got in return was people questioning if he can be trusted.
Incredible, some people are literaly braindead at this point...its amazing and sad all together.
Athene is a good man. Those kids that dislike him are prob nobodies.
Not sure id call him a good man but i also dont see the problem with the add-on if its code-reviewed.
you're a pro or you're a noob. it's so easy. that's life.
Do NOT let Abraham RP!
I think it's beyond time to stop giving Athene shit.
10 years overdue
@@thefirechampion this is the space he thrives! When he goes on his righteous greater than thou arc it gets pretty de-lulu tbh.
@@beeziex haven't watched him in a long while but i know that he wont change
Amen
Athene you are still a legend imo, and if people cant see that thats their loss! So glad to see you back in wow
This is sad. I hope you bounce back and like get shit in there. Like not be sad but happy and successful and that excitement that I felt when I clicked on your VOD and Soda was addressing the add on comes back
2025 is crazy. Piratesoftware turning heel and Athene turning face 😂
Cool creation, and I've been enjoying the content man! Glad to see you back regardless as to how some others feel about it!
Who? Man i love this drama that random talkers of the internet have. I wonder if they turn off and live a normal life or are losers 100% of the time. Subject and creators of the videos.
Anyways gonna go hang out with real people
Also, the addon is just Lua in the end. It's a script, it's open source (you can obfuscate, but not close source Lua). I doubt you obfuscate the code, because you want to gain trust, and people can easily run the whole addon through AI to verify it doesn't contain harmful things. If there was a problem with the addon, people would've noticed by now.
Anti Athene group probably led by Mooncow...afraid of getting pwnd again
Mooncow and Tosog teamed up with Defias Brotherhood to take down Athenes app.
@@GoznerPeter I misread that.
Your okay with me Athene
the tappers and fappers had their feelings hurt and dont want any of Athenes help even if it is a good product.
If nothing weird comes out of this addon, this is just redemption for you man. You need to give people a chance to gain back trust.
Athene pretty much marked my childhood and early yt days. Yeah hes done some sketchy stuff in the past but also a lot of good. If he wants to start with a clean slate and bring back Athene I'm all for it.
Petty. I mean code is code, and if ownership transfer is being proposed then a code review can be done. Or can't they read code or interpret it? Jeez, beyond petty.
I am not surprised some people are against it, even though you gave all the ownership. Reputation is the most important thing in this world and yours is unfortunately tarnished. Now, don't get me wrong, I have no issue with Athene and according to my own research I know you always had good intentions. But people have limited attention span and willpower and they will at one point just give up trying to understand or empathize. I've seen it happen to people in my life who just gave up on me.
Since you're friends with ziqo, you should do a ZNN interview with him.
Then ask him why he cancelled Staysafe? Ziqo is such an ass.
Addon is best think we got recently, thx Athene!
Getting Episode 3 denied. FFS.
All this drama isn’t good for aging boomers.
Maral even started manually smoothing out her skin.
Athene might be a scammer, cult leader, and fraud...but we have all forgotten that he is also THE BEST PALADIN IN THE WORLD!!! Addon looks awesome, and some people just want to hate without remembering who paved the way. If the addon is code reviewed and is legit I don't see any reason why streamers wouldn't want it...the bankrupt feature is pure content.
Art is NOT the artist. Knives aren't killers. Hammers don't build homes.
Regardless of your past, even IF all of it is true which I highly doubt, you in your current frame of mind and place in time made this. If it passes code review and is not found to contain no malicious actions or similar things then it SHOULD be used. This is very clearly a passion project by yourself created with the sole intent of allowing for easier access to and more content for these players / streamers. If those same people are willing to be stubborn fucknuts who would rather flaunt their supposed moral superiority then they don't need to use it, endorse it, or promote it. You do not have a gun to anyone's head screaming at them to download and tell everyone to download it and that they love you and you never did anything wrong and are perfect.
You built a tool. A GOOD tool. This is a hill worth dying on, and you should fight on it because they will all fold before they take you out. There aren't enough 2/10 halfbaked breadtuber hour long slopdrama ""documentaries"" any of them could shit out that invalidities the genuine good that your addon entails. PLEASE do not give in to the spastic whining of groupthinkers.
As I said in a comment reply, Athene went out of his way to make a content machine for these lackluster streamers that clearly can't make any interesting content themselves, or this idea wouldn't have spawned, and all they do in return is question him. The fact a code review was mentioned says all I need to know about these people. They think he's infecting/trolling them with his addon when all he did was try to help.
I know all too well about Athene's past, and even I think it's INSANE to think he's up to something sinister. Grow up.
Always thought about making a kult that does the exact opposite: encourages people to be more social/self-improvement/participate in volunteer work/form small hobby groups etc.... but this makes me realize that all it takes is a few morons with accusations to bring you down. Then you have the more cynical people who don't care for the truth but are just glad to have ammo...
glad to have you back making yt videos athene
Only just found your making content again! Your a Legend Athene
Lets ignore everything in this context except for the addon, the addon is a blessing for all the streamers and like u said provides them with so much more content. Them refusing to use it because of your rep is just them killing the HC hype faster
Can someone TLDR the reason why people are uncomfortable with Athene? I don't want to watch a 1-hour video on it, but I'm assuming there's some valid concerns if people want to gquit.
Athene also addressed the accusations and what happened when he was taken down as well as the consequences of that action in his stream just before releasing episode 2 of "Athene in OnlyFangs". So any doubters (which are people, judging by the opinion on their chat and not having actual self opinion or reason or proof of anything) can go check that out, as he and Maral pretty much covered the whole story of what happened back in the day :) And because I've seen it live - I can tell you it covers everything - from the videos, to gamingforgood, to the religion, to the cancelation, to the scam/crypto accusations - everything!
Stay strong 1337 king!
Define accusation
@@grantnoble6987 that he was a scammer and such.
Athene is an OG and will always be a legend. Even If I don't agree with him on some things. Him as a gamer and content creator I will always respect.
touch some grass if you are offended by this addon, and im pretty sure ppl that would gquit over this are not even worthy keeping,don't hold this addon back becasue of couple toxic individuals
Amazing addon! One question though, I didn’t play wow for a very long time. Just technically what you have built, would this be possible back in the days with real vanilla? Or is it something new?
Athene you're a legend, the addon is legit. Regardless of your past this is a nice piece of professional quality addon development. It was great to see you back on warcraft !
Bro the addon is insane. good luck
You know I've been subbed to you since the old athene number one paladin in the world days. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for these people to actually just look you up and watch everything. It's also crazy considering the app is entirely open source.
Who is threatening to gquit over Athene? Wth lol
Athene is the best. Its just that simple.
Id watch onlyFangs content everyday if Athene was the GM.
Amazing addon. I hope they use it, the death clips and reviews alone would be hilarious content.
i've spent years.. since like 2014 learning to write addons. i'm impressed.
i always wonder what sort of person spends literally their entire time in the game writing code...
got a github? i'd follow. maybe even contribute
Bro athene you made the game better plain and simple with this addon. Sometimes players like us are too legit. We get hate for it.
Its insane ppl hating on athene, like wtf man. Dude was a politician and king of youtube. Ppl should respect athene, he was helping kids get food and ppl all the time. Media can really mess things up for no reason
they way you say : Athene, bring memories.
Your add-on is fantastic you should be proud of it. Yes this situation sucks. But at the end of the day, we make our beds and lay in it.
brooo so sick add-on. gotta make a how to video for add ons. well done
It's alright Athene. There's a major problem with these big streamers fanbases where they just make blind accusations based off random youtube videos with lack of any proof. Been watching you since I was 13 years old man, you're a true legend in my eyes and the true fans will always be here to watch.
Yep. Been a fan since his diablo 3 days in 2012. Damn those were the days
wdym no proof ? athen is a scammer and if a scammer says "hey i got this addon for you" ofc u have doubts xD
he rose to fame for his fake achievements just as he went down for the same thing, one might say he pulled an Elon Musk.
"blind accusations based off random youtube videos with lack of any proof" LMAO
Nice idol you have there.
@@niklashallden7795 Can you elaborate on what that doubt would be?
i mean... if they dont want to use the addon then dont use the addon. But dont hold people hostage and make it where nobody can if they if they want too, thats fucking dumb
You should just put the add-on on curse Forge and make it so anyone can use it any Guild not just only fangs if they're going to s*** on your work and then take ownership and Fiat add-on for everyone I would love to use it for my guild
I understand where Soda and the people feeling uncomfortable are coming from but I also understand Athene. Very unlucky to see, this mightve helped smaller content creators make their own content reacting to deaths or vice versa , giving them exposure by the bigger streamers reacting to the deaths more frequently as its right there instead of being cherry picked by the community. Hated your past , Athene , wouldve loved a propper positive comeback. Godspeed
all you said was that you're gullible and fell for the false accusations.
oh no how will we cope if all the losers quit the guild?
This shows why reputation is so important. Once you lose peoples trust its gone.
why are people angry at athene?