Why the Fujifilm XH2s impressed me
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0:00 - Intro
1:29 - Like, subscribe, and hit that bell
2:12 - My Xh2s, one year later
3:16 - Pro res, Braw, or Pro Res?
4:14 - Using EL Zone with SMALLHD monitors on the Xh2s + step up
6:18 - Missing red recording box? Use a smallhd monitor.
7:18 - Fujifilm Xmount system is GOOD
8:00 - DJI TX system does not work with Xh2s (yet)
8:29 - Using the Xh2s on professional sets
8:41 - Fujifilm Updates over the last year
10:35 - Fujifilm's BIGGEST con
12:05 - The Fx3 used on the creator - what this really means
13:34 - Q&A - Fujifilm Xh2s
16:27: outro
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YO just a reminder to watch the other XH2s videos in my playlist. I don't answer everything in this video. Other videos I made mention other quirk I've found over the past year.
Facts: This should be in every news attached. (Not working ProRes Raw output, dead pixel not fixable, Ninja V+ not workout correctly, not fixable Compression in chroma channels etc, etc, etc)
ua-cam.com/video/BiO8cL4dMYg/v-deo.html
Color issues not fixable with this generation of X-Trans CMOS 5 HS sensor:
ua-cam.com/video/7-RHHAUuI6s/v-deo.html
This are very serious problems and every one should be aware!
Loved the video mate! The only thing I didn't agree on is about the comparison between the xh2s and the fx30. I own both, and the features, colors, codecs, sensor, rolling shutter performance, noise pattern, highlight roll-off, dynamic range, screen resolution, cf Express type B port, 6.2 K open gate, and so on... On the XH2S are on another level compared to the FX30. You made it sound like they're comparable, they're not (at least when you're aware of all what I just listed). The Xh2s is just a much more superior camera, the fx30 just can't compete, at least on paper, especially when image quality and professional level codecs are your priorities instead of autofocus and "Cinema line" written on your camera. 🤣 And that will steer some potential buyer into thinking Sony's the superior choice, when it's not. I agree about the autofocus though, still if Sony's autofocus is a 10, I would give the xh2s autofocus a solid 8. I know technic, story, lighting and everything in between matter more than the camera, but I can't stand that uneducated people think that Sony's "the best", and that some UA-camrs (not you🤣) enable that belief.
for sure - i think the xh2s better too
The only place the Sony is really superior is freelance DPing, at least in my market. In LA, you have to own Sony to get hired with your camera, period. Canon? Nobody wants it. Blackmagic? Very few. Fuji, most people have never even heard of them, it has to be Sony and the FX3 is just as hot as the FX6. The FX9 is still popular with broadcast clients but for corporate, lower budget documentary, anything where it's going to be multi camera or you have to match footage shot non-locally in UK, Europe, Asia or NYC, 9 times out of 10, if it's not Arri or RED, it;s going to be Sony FX3 and FX6 all of the way.
I agree, I think the Fuji is a much better camera overall. And if you produce your own content or are hired as a production company, great! But for freelance DPing, the world is all about Sony. Agency work, Production Company sub-contracting, Production Hub gigs, Staff Me Up gigs, it's ALL Sony, very unusual to see anyone who will hire with anything but Sony FX these days.
What lens do you have for your Fuji that will be great for wide shots?
@@donndonnn for AF i like the viltox 13mm and for cine lenses currently the 14mm from Nisi
@@danbrockettDOPexactly you nailed it. client expectations matter and the sony fx line has that clout to open more opportunities for your career.
Main reason i went with the fx30, i knew that it’d carry the clout and specs to be a solid b/c cam on a shoot using the fx3 or fx6
Great video man! It's always good to have someone such as yourself recognise and remind people that Fujifilm and especially APSC cameras are more than good enough. Especially if they have amazing specs like the XH2s.
GREAT video as always dude! Was really looking forward to this! 🙌 Let’s pray Fuji (hopefully soon) launches their own cinema camera 🙏🏻
Great video! Even greater commentary! I own two xh2s’s and love them! Hardly touch my C70 anymore which is scary. lol! I pray that Fujifilm is watching and gives us that production camera. Hey…wishful thinking anyways.
Those are really excellent insights. We have been using Fujifilm for all of our fashion videos for over the past three years... Great system. Of course, use them for stills as well. That is the X system for videos and the X and GF system for stills.
Thanks for sharing Fuji film content! Fuji systems are a diamond in the rough in my opinion. Have had the xt2 and xt4 now for a while and I think I might make the jump to the hx2s!! Love shooting video
Good video! I own three X-T3s that I use for video/cinema shooting and really like them. All rigged out similar to your XH-2S. I've been thinking about adding an XH-2S, it looks to be an amazing video camera. I've been bugging Fuji for years to come out with a cinema camera. I was at the press rollout for the XH-1, quite a few years ago and even then, I was bugging the engineering team at the event to intro a cinema camera, they would be a great market disruptor. They certainly have the lenses. Maybe add a couple of more MKX zooms and come out with some MKX primes too? If they just took the XH-2S sensor and DSP and put it in a cinema body, just a cube, but keep the AF and IBIS, add two 12G SDI outs, TC, genlock, dual XLRs in the cube. Sell it for $5 or $6K, I think they'd bury the FX6 and C70. Then make a GFX 100 MKII version for $10-$12k.
The XH-2S is so good but people aren't buying it to shoot stills so why not just do what they have done 75% of, take it to 100% and just make it cine? Will still sell X Mount lenses, will sell a ton more of the MKX Zooms, opens their market to X Mount Fuji Cine primes, I would be all over that. Fuji color science and skin tones are still magic and you can't get that same look on a Sony or Canon. Flog 2 looks to be amazing. It would be a win win for Fuji and for cinema shooters everywhere. S-Cinetone has proven that the Fuji Film sims would actually be useful for a lot of pro users, not every client has the time and budget to shoot Log or RAW and deal with that so SOOC colors are still a huge thing for many users and the film sims can look surprisingly good.
I agree with everything you just said
@@CineDailies Thanks man. We can only hope at this point that Fuji finally makes the leap.
100%. Can I also add internal NDs. I'd personally rank internal NDs higher than anything else. I think it's a key reason the fx6 and c70 have been so successful.
@@dhyanverco People seem to REALLY hate dealing with external NDs and VNDs. I am okay with them in general, I have the NISI True Color VND and the B+W MRC fixed 3, 6 and 9 but if a lot of lens changing is involved, external NDs ARE a PITA.
More great feedback on Fuji's video potential.
Honestly I don't think a cinema Fujifilm camera would cost much more than the xh2s. It only needs to be rehoused in a box with internal NDs.
Totally
Nice video man! I too think a cine version of the XH2s (maybe an updated sensor and dual processors?) would be amazing. Heat sink, fan, solid I/O etc. Of course monitoring, solid audio pre-amps bla blab bla. Be easy man!
Seriously, that would be a dream
You nailed it.
As always, an exceptionally well-made video. The quality is just so on point 🤩
Thank you so much - that means a lot! - was sick making this video haha
Great video bro ! I’d love to get my hands on this camera!
Great video! I have the Fuji X-H2s and really want to see a video showing how to get the best of it (includind best ISO settings). Tks! 🙏🏼
Early September I was on the IBC in Amsterdam. And oh yes, the GFX 100 II was _the_ big topic people from all kind of backgrounds and use-scenarios talked about. "Let's put all the FUJI stuff in a nice box-style cam, add a few little features here and there and ... boooom" - This is what I heard countless times. I am sure Fuji is aware ... Let's see what next year brings .... 🙂
RIGHT! yeah I am sure they are. and now is the time
Definitely Agree that Fuji should drop a cinema camera with a dedicated raw codec.
facts
Great video as always. How good does the image quality compare with the Z cam? Thinking of getting one for gimbal setups.
Really thinking of using the gfx 100 II for my next hybrid. Although It lacks the frame rates and doesn't use the full sensor. The image is as close as I can get for a fuji full frame.
Love that idea - its honestly better than full frame
@10:49 YES bro… i keep telling this to fuji. So glad someone they’d likely be more open to listening to has mentioned this. And Hopefully the take the step! It would work out so well for them and the community bro. Im honestly getting tired of the hybrid do-it-all approach. It’s cool but it’s time to get back to specialist cams imo.. in this case, a dedicated cinecam!
I enjoy your videos. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that gets a notification when they drop. From the intro, I'm gonna presume the new Bmcc full frame from Blackmagic design is not doing it for you... That's totally a presumption on my part. But if I am right I would like to hear if it's mostly based on ergonomics. I just released a video on why I pre-ordered one. Cheers
always killing it brodie 🫶
Trying! Thanks fam!
Nice video. Hope Fuji don't forget their flagship APSC camera and continue with firmware update. Id like to see red frame when recording, waveform and false color, better AF.
For sure
I have a question about noise issue you referring to at 9:00 - did you test the latest firmware yourself? Is it really better now?
I literally spent all my night doing so on the latest 5.03 fw, and came to conclusion that it’s still the same - too much color noise and banding still visible in shadows. I tested F-Log and HLG too, and they look sooo much cleaner in 1080p, even at 4K regular FLog looks slightly better in terms of noise. Is my X-H2s broken somehow?..
I wish I can shoot F-Log2 in all situations, cause I prefer how colors look and highlights rolloff in it, but IMO it barely usable in lowlight :(
What's your thought on the xs20?
I am a hybrid shooter and have an xt5. The xh2s is a bit of a stretch at the moment. Another xt5 will also do but I like the opengate. But also better codecs and dual card slot
At 14:10 is that the smallrig XH2s cage behind you and what video tripod are you using in the back for UA-cam vlogs / static shots?
May I ask which brand of adapter is used in the video? Also, I'd like to learn more about the quick-release plate for the camera.
Hello, thank you for the nice content.Which of these lenses would you recommend? For wedding shootings, short films and promotional works.
1) Sirui Night Walker 24mm T1.2
2) 7artisans 25mm T1.05
3) Meike 25mm t/2.2
4) What is your recommended lens or what lens do you use?
For X-H2s
I think a battery grip where it will add additional features that will make the XH2s production ready is possible. As far as I can remember, the XH2s has a USB type C port at the bottom that they used for the media grip so I assume that Fuji can also use it for other stuffs.
not so much for video production and the way I use the camera
Battery grips are bad ergonomics for video
A Fuji cinema camera would be dope!
RIGHT!?! only time will tell
Hello, you've mentioned that they fixed the noise in flog 1080, thats was only in flog? And did they fix the noise in 240p ? Great video as always!
I shot with the X-T5 alongside my X-H2S a couple weeks ago and the X-T5 has the red box. Honestly I just found it distracting. I'm good with the dot. But having the option to turn it on and off would be fine.
11:10 I love the unintentional foreshadowing of Nikon “joining” the prediction camera arena😂😭
🤣🤣🤣
i was waiting for this one.......💌
:D
Was it worth the wait?
Could you please do a quick follow up on the compatibility with the blackmagic assist? I understand that you don't really need braw for your use case with the xh2s but I have a 6k pro and would like to get as close to matching footage as I can lol. Maybe it's improved a year later?
I probably don't have the time but are you able to rent? you could do your own testing.
I can’t set my xh2s to 120p, what I’m doing wrong? What I have to set for being able to set it?
Any update on compatibility of DJI Transmission system and X-H2s? This would be a great s35 camera option but I'd need Lidar's 3D waveform via DJI transmission and if I understand you right, that's nowhere in the books.
Hi, thanks a lot for your amazing work :) ! I was wondering how do you manage working with no display markers for different aspect ratios ? Many thanks !!
For sure! Thanks for watching! I use an external monitor if I need to see multi aspect ratios
have you ever used Tc-1 or any kind of timecode on the Fuji?
I don't know if people need a Fuji production camera. What I do need is Flog 2 support into Davinci and better communication to DJI Ronin stabilizers for sure.
I would love to see Fuji take the XH2s sensor and put it into a traditional camcorder style body with a really great fixed zoom lens. I feel like the cinema market is so saturated. I feel like there is a middle ground that makes more sense.
You're amazing!!!
Been praying for a fuji cinema camera since the XH1 was released... here's to hoping that becomes reality. GFX 100 II is definitely a step towards it... but not quite enough.
It is exactly as You say, X-H2S its a powerhorse, for me as a traveler it's a perfect film tool that doesn't break my spine XD
absolutely
What is your opinion on the newly released Fujifilm GFX 100 ii?
What is this technique you talked about shooting 1080p to upscale later?
Great. Thanks 👍🏾
You bet!
I have a sony a7 iv and two sony lenses.. but i'm thinking to sell all my sony stuff for fuji.. I'm crazy? The new fuji lenses are good for focusing?
What lenses do you use most with XH2S? Been looking at the DZO Vespids to use with the both XH2S and the BMPCC 6k Pro
I currently own a set of Minolta Rokkors, Nisi Athena's, Hello 44m-4, and Carl Zeiss Jenas
Great video! I think Fuji’s built their “X” community around photographers, historically. Whereas Sony has a longer video tradition/community. I would think if they’re reluctant to create a dedicated video camera, it’s because they’re unsure if there’s enough buyers to get a return on their investment.
For sure - only time will tell
I think you’re right. It would be a whole new space. I’m confident that if they execute well, it would be a best seller. But it would have to have better AF than the XH-2S and would have to have internal NDs.
Without those, it wouldn’t compete with the FX3/6 or the C70. It’s sad because those are video camera features, not Cine camera features but if we get real, the FX3/6 and C70 ARE video cameras that can play double duty as a cinema camera.
Not very many people making films, other than The Creator, which is an anomaly, are buying $4-$6k video cameras. That crowd buys REDs, Venice and Arri mostly. These cameras largely get used for corporate, weddings, events more than actual filmmaking. And that’s okay. Everyone wants to feel like they could make a film with their video camera.
Great video man! Ive been on the fence with the xh2s because ive heard and noticed its very sharp, even with the sharpness settings dialed to the minimum. I have an xt3 and dont use it as much because its also on the "too sharp" side. Would you say its as bad as the xt3? or manageable with softer glass like lets say, canon fds? Thanks!
Sure - it all depends on the lenses you use too and filtration. I would rent it out with some lenses and test your self.
The rokkors are nice on this sensor
@@CineDailies thanks for the reply man! Good to know. Cant rent one in my country, but if the xt3 is any reference i kinda know what to expect then. Thanks again!
-4 on sharpness and -4 on NR, using cine and vintage lenses de-sharpens our X-T3s just fine. You have to dial down the in-camera all of the way and then they are good. Same with the XH-2S. Don't use diffusion filters, sorry, they're lame and affected, not a fan of them. if you need to soften more, do it in post.
@@danbrockettDOP already there, still too sharp at times. My main cam is a Poket 4k, so the xt3 gets used sparingly. To each their own, i use a 1/8 promist all the time, i love it. Subtle enough that it is almost always used on my shoots
Will there be a FujiRaw, also it seems like Flog 1 is good for low light and Flog 2 is better for overall capture
as I owner of Xs20 and Sony a7IV I would say it's really way enjoyable and easier to use Fuji as video camera . But when I need Af-c and low light performance I still go with Sony. But even screen on X20 ( 1300$) looks better than on a7IV( 2400$+) .
Good reviews about xh2s. Im trying to purchase my first camera. Im thinking fujifilm xh2s (it's unique) or lumix s5ii. Im planning to use for wedding job. Which one do you think the best since you have used it.
Can you rent either if them?
@@CineDailies Only Sony or Canon are up for renting as option in my country. For fujifilm only medium format available gfx series. I'm quite familiar with Sony & Canon. All of my friends using these both brands but neither have tried fujifilm n Lumix. I'm attracted to fujifilm aspiration vision and being a bit different but can it do the job for client. As you claim it's not for production. That's why I'm seeking other option to Lumix s5ii. I don't know now
Dude i got the notification for your video but i couldnt find it anywhere on your channel
its fully live now - sorry about that!
Hey man! Great video and watched the whole thing even though I’m a LUMIX shooter. Wanted to learn more about shooting in 1080 and then upscaling to 4k. Why do that? I typically shoot on 4k or 6k and deliver in 1080p for most projects especially social media delivery. What benefits or reasons to shooting in 1080 and then upscale? Is this unique to Fuji for you or do you even do this on your mavo? Thanks!! Btw, I shoot on s1h and gh6.
Oh lol its an old UA-cam hack to trick UA-cam playback into presenting 1080 P footage as 4K
@@CineDailies so for client deliveries you don’t shoot in 1080? Right? lol
@@ChrisFlores22 correct lol
@@CineDailies thanks for the clarification, I was about to have a workflow crisis lol thought you did that for a softer image or idk haha
Great video! Have you tested f-log2 from X-H2s with Ninja V? I recently bought X-H2s and I have Ninja V, I tried f-log from X-T3 and f-log2 from X-H2s and found differences in color (In Ninja V settings there’s one profile camera out f-log). Maybe you know the best option for setting up Ninja V with f-log2 from X-H2s (not prores raw)? Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I haven't bothered with atoms recorders, like I mentioned in the video. but are you recording pro res to the ninja v? why?
@@CineDailies In our country Cfexpress much more expensive than SSD for Ninja and since I already have Ninja that I use with XT3, I decided to test it with XH2s.
Bro I picked up the GFX 100 II. It is AMAZING!!!
I will post images on my Instagram. Also I use the GFX with a Fringer adapter for all of my EF lenses. DZO lensesseems to cover the entire sensor when shooting video.
I need to test the Nisi Lenses on it
Great video, man
thanks Luke ha - you can comment again once its live again ha
@@CineDailies haha I will for sure
01:30 to be good in the filming industry, I'm just still waiting for a camera, with camera options. And not a dslr / mirrorless photo base camera.
11:40 - Okay then I agree haha I keep my x-t3 until I can't buy a fuji production CAMERA !
And if they wont in some years (2 or 3..) I guess I'll have to change my material... And I will go to sony unfortunatly.
As an og bmp6k and xt30 owner, I’ve been eyeing the xh2s over the fx3 but the one thing that has me stumped is that the xh2s doesn’t accept ssd for records via usbc? Seems like a bit of a waste if this is still true
NOOOOOOO lol not a waste at all bro lol Cfast express type B is much better. besides, ssd external recording is risky if not properly rigged.
what lens will you use for set-and-forget talking head?
I recently bought the XH2s, and just finished my first production with it.
I absolutely love the image, but the focusing system giving me headaches… When i use focus peak highlights, the highlights stay visible while recording, can’t find a way to turn it off.
Any advice for best manual focus settings?
For sure - make a custom button for manual focus and auto focus. Keep peaking enabled with the manual focus, then when you switch between AF the peaking will go away. I'll make a reel to show you what I mean
@@CineDailies Thanks for the reply! But if i understand you correctly; That’s just a fast switch between MF and AF. But when i manually focus on something, and i’m sure it’s in focus, i don’t want to have to change anything in camera, or switch to another focus mode.
I just want to press record and that the highlights dissapear.
@@Taramundifilms yeah that won’t happen in this camera. Switching between the two is the fast way to disable the peaking
As an X-S20 owner I hope they add all the new video features to all the cameras with the new processor. Very few of us are also GFX users. Sony has the best autofocus so they can get away with shafting their customers. 😂
Just give me touch tracking autofocus in video mode!
I know right haha
Question: does this camera suffer from lag when using an external monitor?
nope
0:32 yes, that specific camera does have that medium format sensor; but, it is severely handicapped for video.
It’s an amazing stills camera.
But for video, 8k in s35 field of view (FOV)? Nowhere near medium format FOV. The maximum utilization of that medium format sensor is the width of the sensor in some 4K and 6K offerings. But not full-height.
No open gate video either.
So, unless they unlock that camera via firmware updates (granted the hardware supports it), it’s not even worth it for video.
And based on CVP’s review of that camera, the video looks very…. videoy. And the rolling shutter is no bueno either.
Heading in the right direction; but other offerings (e.g. the FX3, etc.) are so much better than that camera when it comes to video.
"they can't abandon their own flagship camera"
I remember buying an xh1
Dang - you right
@@CineDailies I also hope they don't do that again. I love my xh2 🤣
lol’d @ the Nikon reference
Haha- just a little dig
What’s wrong with the Blackmagic cinema 6k?
No Pro res option
Full frame isnt a big splash
Same old body
its still a great camera but there some things that I will point out in a future video
You are mkbhd 2.0 version
You are a professional...I'm not. My Wishlist looks different. Improving the AF in video, the Ibis, tap to focus in video, using own luts etc.
haha for sure, fujifilm will hopefully address this
no i fajnie
They should produce a medium format 8k 60 (or dare I say 120) focused body. Shift out the stills features and focus on maybe pushing for 15 stops of DR. If they made one of these with the option of IBIS, it would crush the competition
Hahaha "YOU NEED TO LEAVE"
my favorite sound bite lol
GO BIRDS!!!! 🦅
GO BIRDS
GO BIRDS
Naaa! Nikon felt that burn. 😂
🤣🤣🤣
I disagree about video assist tools and other features being nice-to-haves in the X-H2s because of the release of the X-S20, which has a bunch of features that are not in the X-H2s. As an X-H2s owner, I'm expecting a major firmware update to reposition the X-H2s as the flagship video camera because, right now, for features that are important to me, the X-S20 is a better camera at half the price.
This feels like when they released the X-H1 years ago and then released the X-T3 a couple of months later and it was a better video camera, except it had no IBIS. The X-H1 never recovered as the flagship model. I really hope they don't do that again with the X-H2s. If so, I'll never buy another flagship model from Fuji. I'll just wait for whatever "lower tier" model comes out within the six months after the flagship because it will have better tech at half the price.
If it makes you feel any better, Sony screwed all the flagship A1 owners by neglecting firmware updates. There are rumors that there is a firmware update coming in December, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
@@RandumbTech, the next FW update will be "Sony A1 II". Joking
Ahhhh, this video was going well until you decide to squeeze in the segment about The Creator and "how it was shot on the FX3"... in a video about the XH2s. That segment felt forced and felt like it was inserted for the sake of being like every other UA-camr who is doing the same video/segment as well. Did not expect this coming from you
okay lol the point was that any camera be used on any project. I was ranting about how the xh2s is not a production camera and yet, the fx3 was the camera of choice on a Hollywood film. so I felt it was appropriate to mention. that ruined your experience watch this video. tough.
@CineDailies it's more like we as the viewer come back to you because of your style of video. You usually don't give into the hype and give us some honest opinions on products. You have a distinct style that stands out from all the other copy/paste youtubers so the FX3 segment was like, "well since everyone is making this video right now, I gotta add it in here!". At the end of the day, it's your channel, your videos but it did seem like your usual style. I personally don't want you to go to the route doing what everyone else is doing because you are unique
Not Nikon..... WAIT NOW ITS NIKON RED?!?!?! sooo maybe yes Nikon!
“They can’t abandon their flagship” hehe boy, remember X-H1 😂
😅😅😅
Bro what you talking about? 11:54
Is there something specific?
@@CineDailies you want Fujifilm to make a 10k to 20k cinema camera? Why?
Well yes, if you're questioning why then it's obviously not for you haha.
@@CineDailies hahaha, okey fair enough.
Yeh but is crop so not excited for the video no point if it can't use it's full senor
The level of ignorance in this comment is laughable
As if your excitement over someone else’s video matters? If you don’t want to watch then don’t… why comment at all? 🤦🏻♂️
@@CineDailies hold your horses mate I Watch a lot of your videos and this comment is not ment to be an insult
I had the GFX 100 MKII for a bit and I wasn't impressed by it's video features
Thank you for calling me an ignorant I guess one sub down won't hurt you but not cool man
Good luck
@@ERJOL maybe your comment was lost in translation some how but bro, the full frame vs crop debate is so miss leading. That's why I responded in such a way.
@@CineDailies I own the xh2s lol 😆 sorry I should have put the min when you talked about the GFX
i don't like it.