"My Treasured Mistake" - The journey out of the Novus Ordo

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • Father Thomas Ojeka joins the show to discuss his recently published book that covers his journey to sedevacantism after nine years in a Novus Ordo seminary.
    You can buy the book on Amazon: www.amazon.com...
    Or on Selar.co: selar.co/1r751...
    You can watch a full interview with Father Ojeka on this podcast here: • Father Thomas Ojeka te...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 27

  • @janetr5693
    @janetr5693 2 місяці тому +8

    Most of us haven't always been Sedes. Be patient with those on their way !

    • @user-dl6jz4bh6h
      @user-dl6jz4bh6h 2 місяці тому

      I remember when presumption was considered a sin

  • @AmandaS18
    @AmandaS18 2 місяці тому +7

    3 Hail Marys for Father ✝️🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @Juan-gd1wd
    @Juan-gd1wd 2 місяці тому +3

    Hello. God Bless, sorry, because i know that this is unrelated to the video and thanks in advance.
    I'm a cradle NO RC. In mid 2022, after 19 years of life, and also being confirmed, I started practicing. Less than a year from that moment, I started to discover.. well, most of what you show in this video. I considered being "R&R" and even came to know Sedevacantism, sadly through MHMF but, shortly after, I also discovered Orthodoxy. From that moment to this very day, I have almost exclusively approached the Faith from that perspective. During a lot of time I thought it to be, well, "free" of the hideous things the NO is infested with, namely, ecumenism, religious indifferentism/relativism and modernism.. but the reality was very different. To make it short, there's an equivalent position to Sedevacantism in Eastern Orthodoxy by the name "True Orthodoxy". Since mid may of this year, I have been struggling between the two and since I know this is a very serious matter, one could say the most important of all, I wanted to, please.. ask for guidance regarding how to: 1) Defend the Sedevacantist (i.e, actual Roman Catholic) position; 2) Refute the historical, theological and doctrinal arguments of EO both for itself as well as against RC.
    Sorry for the comment being so long. It has been some though days. I have come to the point of not practicing the Faith at all given how doubtful I'm, not of the Faith itself, God Forbid, but of where the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church is to be found in our days. God Bless, again

    • @ecopley9013
      @ecopley9013 2 місяці тому +4

      I once asked Fr Cekada this question for a sincere friend of mine. He recommended reading "The Early Papacy" by Adrian Fortescue, but the copy I was able to get (from Ignatius Press) had so many Novus Ordo annotations, that I was unsure whether it was trustworthy and I don't recall giving it a good reading because of that. Perhaps you could try to find an old copy on ebay or amazon or in a bookstore.
      What I can wholeheartedly recommend to you though, is a devout novena to St Anne, Mother of Our Lady and great miracle worker. This is the kind of prayer that God will always answer, a prayer for truth. I am certain a novena to Saint Anne will be the solution to your dilemma - and if you can, pray the Rosary each day with the novena, of course!

  • @AmandaS18
    @AmandaS18 2 місяці тому +2

    I’ll watch hour plus 🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @stevecalovich3682
    @stevecalovich3682 22 дні тому

    "God is about to punish the world in a terrible manner." -Lucia, 1957 "Satan rules a false church from Rome after 1960." -3rd Secret, Padre Pio version.

  • @jamiekennedy9628
    @jamiekennedy9628 2 місяці тому +1

    Where can you get Father's book?

  • @user-dl6jz4bh6h
    @user-dl6jz4bh6h 2 місяці тому +1

    Why is he wearing his biretta? It's ceremonial and for preaching. Confused

    • @deannamartin6827
      @deannamartin6827 2 місяці тому +2

      Perhaps as a "statement of humility and reverence"( quoted bc I was curious about your question and looked it up)

    • @sweetwhispersofprovidence3643
      @sweetwhispersofprovidence3643 2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for your question. You would do well to know that the use of the biretta is not exclusively Liturgical...

    • @user-dl6jz4bh6h
      @user-dl6jz4bh6h 2 місяці тому +1

      @@sweetwhispersofprovidence3643 I would be interested to know some examples. I have only worn mine in procession, choir and for preaching

    • @user-dl6jz4bh6h
      @user-dl6jz4bh6h 2 місяці тому

      @@deannamartin6827 I checkd Fortescue and didn't find anything outside of the usual norms. Personally iI wouldn't use the Biretta to make a statement. Ironically, using it outside its said purpose could be considered immodest

    • @amdg2023
      @amdg2023 2 місяці тому +2

      He's preaching ain't he?

  • @bobthebuildest6828
    @bobthebuildest6828 2 місяці тому +1

    im so sorry you have left the church, i pray you will return before you stand before the Throne

    • @amdg2023
      @amdg2023 2 місяці тому +1

      He hasn't left Bob, maybe it's you that's left? Get a grip on yourself man.

    • @bobthebuildest6828
      @bobthebuildest6828 2 місяці тому

      @@amdg2023 its his journey to sedevacantism...a condemned heresy.....

    • @user-uq7zg4vc8m
      @user-uq7zg4vc8m 2 місяці тому

      @@amdg2023 He has a grip on himself. Whereas you do not, needing to make condescending remarks as if that is going to convince anyone of your position.

    • @amdg2023
      @amdg2023 2 місяці тому

      @@user-uq7zg4vc8m a feminist has made a comment, feelings are hurt it's the to level the conversation, prune it as it were so that were all ecumenical in our thoughts, create a level playing field where there is no hierarchy only feelings.

  • @alexwahl9314
    @alexwahl9314 2 місяці тому

    I would not endorse sedevacantism. I would delete this video Mr. Davis and disassociate from any movement that denies Mt. 16:16-18. God Bless you

  • @user-uq7zg4vc8m
    @user-uq7zg4vc8m 2 місяці тому +2

    The reason I am not a sedevacantist is because the majority of sedes I’ve known over the years act like proud, arrogant, and uncharitable people. Not all, but the majority. There is a cult-like attitude that your entire interaction with them comes down to whether or not you will believe in sedevacantism. As if it is a sede vs the non-sede. Or a Catholic vs a Novus Ordo-ite instead of a Catholic who simply doesn’t see the arguments for SVism to be strong enough to conclude with certainty there is no pope, or that it is wise or rightful to make that judgment. I see this attitude frankly on this channel at times laughing in scorn judging who is a Catholic or not. You have the right to judge a persons words or actions, but not whether or not they remain a member of the Catholic Church. You can say they appear not to be, because of heresy, but only a manifest formal heretic who intentionally rejects a dogma of the Church excommunicates themselves. Making that judgment is playing pope. Example: judging Cardinal Mueller as definitely not a Catholic interviewing that guy from Novus Ordo watch because he made a strange statement about Transubstantiation judging his meaning to be formal heresy vs simply a theologically confused statement.

    • @Lasedemom
      @Lasedemom 2 місяці тому +3

      I'm new and I only feel welcomed by the Fathers, the sisters and very few parishioners, yet I've never felt more Catholic in my entire life. Honestly, when you know what faith really is, people are the last ones on your mind. I also believe, I want to be that one person in mass, who actually is genuinely Catholic, in front or not of the priest or sister. We can make a difference. Not everyone that is traditionalist is true Catholic.

    • @LOOregano
      @LOOregano Місяць тому +2

      A word of warning, judging others to be judgemental can also be a pride trap.
      On the one hand, even the Saints tell how combatting error against God is very important and so many things must be said that even those people saying them may not want to say.
      Follow the truth, for Christ's sake, regardless of others. I wonder if you have scrutinized people in your own church as much as you have Sedes? E.g The N.O. has many unsavory people in addition to some more pleasurable ones...
      Observe what you want to see in others and then be the Catholic Saint that you want to see in them. When I look at things this way it is humbling. Somehow other people's faults seem more tolerable in the face of my own.
      I just read in the excellent book Particular Examin we should spend time thinking (meditating) on the virtues we see in others. Especially if we are not inclined to like that person. Then meditate on the opposite faults, which may be our own!

    • @howdydocowgirlcowgirl181
      @howdydocowgirlcowgirl181 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@LOOregano Amen! Besides, we must practice Charity at all times (easily or otherwise)