The fact that bonk complains about cash shows he has no idea what the real joker was all about. It was never about the money ( except that one time with the irs).
To be fair, from what I have seen of the people taking Joker's name in Batman Beyond, they seem less interesting in trying to perfectly copy him than they do about using his image and name for their own purposes. While chaotic at times, chaos is not the point for them, chaos is merely a means to an end whether that end is money or something else.
"He won't tell us what his plan is if he even has one." Well, of course not. He's Joker. His whole basic schtick is being an unpredictable, chaotic madman.
I don't remember perfectly, But I think there was some shit of stabilizing joker, as he was some sort of implanted memory on someone. Not much of a plan, but a objective he could not reveal to the henchmen, as they would see a weakness on their boss
Not just that. Telling your plan to your minions makes it possible for them to spill their guts to Batman. Best way to keep the caped crusader ignorant, is to tell nobody nothing.
At the same time tho these criminals are still young who only know the Joker from stories, so it makes sense that their understanding of him would be warped or inaccurate. This was a wake-up call and a reminder to be careful what you wish for 😅
Perhaps the better choice of words is that these new-era criminals (e.g. the Jokerz) don't quite have the vision, commitment, and grand planning that the old-school Batman villains possessed; they're rather small-time and more than willing to sit back and take orders from more experienced villains.
Joker having red eyes with white pupils is something that fits him extremely well. It's kind of a shame we don't see unique yet fitting design aspects with villain and hero designs that much these days.
@@eyeseer1 what? no way. Megatron is subservient to Joker tho, that's legit. I dunno any villain, except maybe Darkseid who would be able to step up the the Clown Prince.
I liked that. Though i kinda wished we'd had more interaction between the dede's and joker considering we find out they're Harley's kids. So it's possible joker was the dad.. Btw thanks for that too had no idea that it was Frank welker! That's awesome!
@@Saint_nobody for some reason that reminds me of even he met red skull and finds out what he is he tells him something like " i may be a criminal and a lunatic but I'm an American criminal lunatic!" . Then he even tells everyone around to stop red skulls his to take out. Frankly he's so unpredicatable yet generally insane enough i think your right. Given proper circumstances he'd have pretty much anyone but the biggest bads following him.. sometimes even the biggest like here haha.
Fun fact: Mark Hamill himself admitted he felt unsettled with with his portrayal of the Joker here. Let's put in perspective that the Joker did plenty of messed up stuff during his time in the DCAU, from abusing Harley to creating toxin that could make people laugh to death, yet what happened here, the Joker mentally torturing Robin to the breaking point and trying to steal his body decades later, was what really made Mark disturbed. Yeah, this is without a doubt, the most evil version of the Joker ever adapted outside the comics.
Honestly I’m glad they made Joker like that cause that’s what he’s about right? Just nothing but pure evil and chaos. Heck, Batman literally almost broke his no killing code and threw a knife, aiming right at Joker’s head. That’s what Joker wants, he wants to drive Batman mad by making him breaking his code.
@@Tman23No? Stop using Ledger's passable version of Joker as your basis for the character. He does commit crime to atagonize Batman, but it's hardly chaotic. Kidnapping Tim was just an attempt to break Batman and either push him over the edge, or end him. Joker's entire schtick is proving no one is infallible and all it takes is just one bad day to break anyone.
Speaking of, I swear that Ghoul makes me think a little of the Scout from Team Fortress 2, just from his appearance and voice. It's almost like that could be an outfit (or costume, rather ;)) for Scout in the Halloween updates. (wait, those are updates, right)
I love this version of Joker so much, it's too bad he wasn't a regular rogue in the series. The dark reveal of his face, the jokes, everything is such a perfect way and the kill itself is super great too.
the cartoon series Batman Beyond while pushing the limits of what they could get away with at the time really couldn't have done him justice as a character.
@@hdofu they did here at least but the show maybe but for how long he would have to die eventually much like Freeze did in his only episode appearance there's only so much you can do with pre established characters that would feel reused in a show like this.
The guy doing the Christopher Walken voice originally did it only as a prank, but everyone loved it so much that he decided to make it last the whole movie.
+theonetruephobia, you're the moron. Did you got see Batman Returns, the movie where Christopher Walken played a villain working with The Penguin? Fucking idiot.
The weird and sad part about this scene is that Bonk dosen't think their new boss is the Joker and while the rest of the Jokerz (That's the name of their gang I think. It's been a while since I watched this movie) may or may not agree with him, they do think their new boss is treating them like crap and wants it to stop. As soon Joker points a gun at Bonk, the gang immediately panics and probably begins to think this guy is the Joker or that this definately proves it. So then Joker kills Bonk and the gang has no doubt in their mind that this is the Joker. The weird thing about this is that Joker killing Bonk is probably one of the least horrible things that he's done. That's how you know the gang are just kids and not actual, you know, real real criminals. Any real criminal could have killed Bonk right in front of their faces with a smile on his face but these kids don't have that knowledge. They obviously didn't except their to be any killing involved(even Bonk). Some of you might say "Well these kids must have some knowledge of the Joker and what's he has done." And yeah they obviously do, that's why they allow Joker to treat them like that. Imagine if your in their positon :Your just a bunch of low level criminals trying to make a quick buck and go for some thrills and then suddenly your city's most famous criminal and terrorist comes to you and tries to recruit you to basically be his henchmen. This man who has killed dozens of people, destroyed the city countless times, and has left a mark on history that will probably never be forgotton. Moved on from but never forgotten. And he wants to recruit you to be his henchmen. How do you say no to one of the most dangerous man on the planet? You don't.
I'd agree they're impressionable teenagers, but I'd say they were at least willing to kill - not on purpose, like an execution, but say, pushing Batman off a ledge, or throwing cops into a grinder. The death of a person isn't what affected them. It's the execution of it. Firstly, it proves to them that their idol and leader is a dangerous man. Initially they might've followed him out of fear and respect - but without the full knowledge that he's actually willing to MURDER THEM if they refuse his orders. They might've been thinking a slap, some beating up like an upset parent, not death. And secondly, look at the way the Joker does it - he's firstly shown like a monster in shadows, with just his red eyes flashing. He does all of his threatening nonchalantly, even amusingly - this isn't anything important to him, just some fun. At this moment he proves that they're dispensible and he's more than willing to kill them for amusement. And this is what terrifies most people, even criminals, about the Joker - he's unstable, unpredictable, and he WILL kill you without hesitation. Even seasoned henchmen would be terrified of working under this guy.
They didn't know enough about the joker. You'd think the twins would know more since their grandma(or was it aunt) is Harley. It is arguable that Harley probably wanted to leave that past buried, but I feel like she would mention it to a family or two at some point in her later years.
Wow, I'm surprised they were able to allow the Joker to confirm a person died. In the original animated series, they had to make sure Joker never killed anyone.
This wasn't for the tv series, this was a movie so there hands were less tied with the story, also this was the director's cut (he gases him in the other version after the bang)
@@jamesvach6698 I'm watching the series from the beginning because I never had the opportunity to watch it as a child, and I have to say that the censorship is very noticeable, people who fall from several meters high to miraculously fall on top of a tree or a trampoline, and It's the same with laughing gas, it doesn't kill or deform, it just makes you laugh, and at most it causes permanent dementia due to long exposure, but it doesn't kill, that's for sure. (Sorry for the bad english, i'm using Google Translate 😅) I have to say, it shows that before it was very restricted, one has to get that idea when watching series or movies that already have their yesterdays, but that doesn't stop them from being classics.
@@Juanchi3110 If you say so. I must have remembered it different when I saw it as a child since I was certain there were at least a few deaths given how a few characters exclusive to this version were never seen again after a certain point. At any rate there certainly seem to be a lot of very close calls from what I can remember, people who would have died if not for being treated. Perhaps it is just my memories being mistaken. Don't worry about your English, I couldn't tell you were using a translating tool and I understand your points. I have seen much worse comments that are harder to understand although to be fair that is more a matter of sentence structure than the language itself.
Well dying and coming back in the body of an experimental test subject suggests Joker might actually be a mad genius of neuroscience to pull off how he did it in this universe tends to leave one a bit more intense.
The Joker was that malevolent in a lot of TAS episodes. Remember Mad Love? Or the episode with Charlie Collins? Or the one where he tried to set off a nuke? Or Wild Cards (technically a Justice League episode, but even so)?
that's because he was in his element back when he was fighting the original batman. he had more obedient minions, and he was up against a nemesis he actually enjoyed fighting, so he didn't need to be as edgy or be as short fused as he was around these young punks who were wearing his makeup and not even pulling the gag right. It's not so much that he was never malevolent, it's just this new time period brought out the worst in him
Imagine how mad Bonk must’ve been when he saw the memory board get destroyed to seriously not consider the consequences of backtalking the fucking Joker.
There was an earlier scene where he abandoned the huge globe-shaped thing they were trying to steal. Even after one of the Dee-Dee twins fell off the flying vehicle, Terry was hanging onto her by a thread, but Bonk still kept going at him. Plenty of young men, and especially teenagers (I should know, I was one) have gotten into trouble on account of an uncontrollable temper.
Considering how he didn't think it was the real Joker, it goes to show how these new thugs using the villain's name don't realize just how insane and homocidal the real Joker was (or is)
Mark Hamill sounds waaay better as Joker here than nowadays. I dunno why, but the lower and much calmer tone of voice he speaks with here makes him sound like that much *more* of a threat (to me at least).
This is The Joker after all. By "giving the town a wedgie" he meant "blasting certain parts of the town with a satelite lazer carving a smiley face that can be seen from up high while also killing a shitton of people"
This was the movie I remember first seeing Mark Hamills joker. And wow the way he lingered in the shadows with his red eyes and powerful voice before revealing that big sinister smile; this scene alone showed me this guy was something unlike anyone else. Especially the fear he put in his crew and later on the entire city as they are reminded of the man they all feared so many years ago and still to this day. Mark Hamill is THE Joker 🐐
Considering the fact that Bonk's corpse was smiling unnaturally this means Joker also laced that shot with his trademark toxin. Which is kinda overkill since the guy would be dead either way but.....hey gotta keep the tradition rolling i guess.
I honestly don't think a shot like that in that area would have killed him, I mean sure in a few hours maybe but not instantly like that. So yeah it was probably the toxin that killed him so quickly, it wasn't even that close to the heart and even if it had been a direct hit to the heart you can actually survive with no heartbeat for about, however long your body can live without oxygen so around three minutes give or take.
@@gif303It is also possible that the little flag killed him first before the Joker Toxin it was laced with did. The fact that Bonk wasn't smiling after he saw the gun go off and there was no laughter from him after he was shot should be proof.
2:32 There's something really pleasing to me about this tiny bit of acting, from the Joker. No giggling, no japes, just him very thoughtfully running down a list of options, and writing off each one in turn. Makes him feel just a little more human.
@@davisdf3064Batman Beyond with a HF Blade… I mean, Curarè had a similar gimmick, but it would be cool to see Terry McGinnis try his hand at futuristic swordplay.
Dee Dee being asked to take out the garbage is an amazing little nod to me. BTAS Joker from what I remember used Harley more than henchmen. So him asking Harley's Granddaughters to do the grunt work just tickles my fancy.
Heath and Joaquin were great as Joker but Mark's various versions of the Joker are #1. He knows the Joker so well. He knows how to voice him. Just like Kevin Conroy with Batman
Only Mark Hamill can hold back when directed to do so and manage to one-up himself by portraying by far the most terrifying, threatening take on his Joker of all time.
The actor has his own style of acting. It can't be expected for someone to act exactly like somebody eles. This is the original Joker. And Jered acted his "own" Joker. It's his way/style. In SQ is Jered's Joker.
@@saysolinka109 Yea, but unlike Jack Nicholson, Heath ledger, and Joaquin Phoenix, Jared Leto's a douchebag who took his Joker character so seriously that he purposely harassed his co-stars by being a creep while making them refer to him as "Mr. J". Not to mention his joker performance was so terrible that they literally had to cut most of his scenes from the movie.
Wow and it was already pretty kid-friendly to begin with. The almost Nerf-like with the orange tip? No blood at all? They think children can't handle that and wonder why they grow up into whiny adults. My parents showed my LOTR when I was 8 and Terminator 2 when I was 10, kids can handle a little gore.
This movie did an excellent job of taking the shows Joker villain group and showing you that they’re no where near as dangerous as the original Joker after building them up throughout the show only to break them down in the movie.
I love how the clone joker just mocks these kids , joker is right ofc because these are just kids playing a dangerous game that they aren’t prepared for , we also most keep in mind that if not all but most of Bruce old enemies are either missing, or in Arkham . I do like that when clone joker says that is also how they did it in my day , I think that he was referring to robin shooting the original joker , this joker seems to have all the memories of the original joker 🃏 and knowing joker , I’m not surprised if he would mock the original joker’s death .
I think what would have been a good foreshadowing of the Joker controlling Tim Drake body was if he said, "...put a smile in this heart" instead of "...put a smile in my heart"
logically speaking, if DD is the grandkids to Harley, and Tim (Renamed Joker Jr.) is the illegally adopted son of Joker and Harley, then he would be DD's Uncle J... What a messed up family...
I love how much this movie highlights the difference between the Joker and the Joker gang. They really are a gang, mostly posturing. But the Joker is a monster a purely human monster, one who made gods and demons second guess messing with him. They are criminals but he is the Joker
Funny story behind that... the voice actor who played him had done a Christopher Walken impression before during a recording session for another production, and they thought it was so good they asked him to do it for Ghoul.
Trademark Joker, whacked Bonk without second thought, displaying that disturbing, menacing grin. A much more dangerous and ruthless psychopath in Batman Beyond. Bonk made the big mistake to offend Joker like that, with his bad mouthing and he casually snuffed out Bonk like a candle, as if nothing happened. The rest of the gang were too scared to refuse to pledge loyalty, fearful that Joker would also end them if they did, after seeing for themselves just how dangerous and sinister Joker is. Joker won't think twice if he wanted to kill or torture someone and with that sinister smile he displays.
@@saysolinka109 it was never confirmed but even so it doesnt make sense because he and Harley didnt want any real kids of their own. Joker died and fast forward to Harley as an old woman and she has granddaughters so its assumed that she moved on and had her own family without joker
@@Spongebrain97 I see, I'm kinda confused cuz in the game I saw, said that after joker died, Batman found Harley's pregnancy test and it's positive. :I
The first hint that this Joker is not the real Joker...how quiet he is, how uncharacteristically calm. Yes he is nuts but he's also controlled. Too controlled.
I can definitely see Joker pulling a "back in my day" line if he had ever lived past 50 (probably something like the grandpa from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise).
0:33 did the joker always have black nails from the chemicals or does he paint them? Because I can only imagine him sitting in a little chair painting his nails 😂
feminism sucks God damn right. Also Islam is right about women, so take their rights away/repeal the 19th amendment and all this feminism bullshit ends.
BONK! Not only was your costume RED AND BLACK LIKE HARLEY QUINNS but ou had to go on and INSULT THE DAMN JOKER ANYWAYS! You know he hates harley quinn colored goons that talk back!
Seriously does anyone else thing the Joker gas version is way worse? I mean in one he just gets stabbed in the chest in the other he's still dying while everyone's watching him uncontrallably laughing and then that horrific grin afterwards.
"Ah brave new world...that has such putzes in it." Quite the great quote from the Joker, a combination of a reference to a classic Shakespeare line mixed with 1930s/1940s gangster slang. The character always rode that line between high class and psychotic low-brow mobster, fitting for his schizophrenic nature as a clown criminal.
Why would ANYONE, EVER, work for, or, with Joker, he's either killed, or, TRIED to kill EVERYONE he's EVER worked with, even Harlequin!? I KNOW, one day, he's going to go to where ever criminal masterminds go to hire goons, (Henchmen R Us!) and, they're gonna say"Sorry Mr. Joker, we're fresh out of henchmen, muscle,, and, goons!". Joker: "Really!? For how long!?" Henchmen R Us: "About the same time you called in, asking about henchmen, 5-6 minutes ago!"
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The fact that bonk complains about cash shows he has no idea what the real joker was all about. It was never about the money ( except that one time with the irs).
To be fair, from what I have seen of the people taking Joker's name in Batman Beyond, they seem less interesting in trying to perfectly copy him than they do about using his image and name for their own purposes. While chaotic at times, chaos is not the point for them, chaos is merely a means to an end whether that end is money or something else.
And he was smart enough not to mess with them.
It's not about the money. It's about the METS BABY LET'S GO METS
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Great video honestly lol
Remember the IRS
"He won't tell us what his plan is if he even has one." Well, of course not. He's Joker. His whole basic schtick is being an unpredictable, chaotic madman.
I don't remember perfectly, But I think there was some shit of stabilizing joker, as he was some sort of implanted memory on someone.
Not much of a plan, but a objective he could not reveal to the henchmen, as they would see a weakness on their boss
@@arthurbarros5189 Yeah, but this Joker was still more or less the same as the OG Joker was.
Not just that. Telling your plan to your minions makes it possible for them to spill their guts to Batman.
Best way to keep the caped crusader ignorant, is to tell nobody nothing.
@@jak8714tbf, these guys seem to squeal the moment their cornered. If it was Harley, on the other hand, Joker would gleefully tell her everything.
At the same time tho these criminals are still young who only know the Joker from stories, so it makes sense that their understanding of him would be warped or inaccurate. This was a wake-up call and a reminder to be careful what you wish for 😅
It really show the new criminals are just criminals and not psychopaths
+TheHarshCynic i know but in batman pretty much every villain is a phycopath
+TheHarshCynic didnt they all go to arkam asylum though?
Perhaps the better choice of words is that these new-era criminals (e.g. the Jokerz) don't quite have the vision, commitment, and grand planning that the old-school Batman villains possessed; they're rather small-time and more than willing to sit back and take orders from more experienced villains.
Michael Shan agreed! Lol
I don't think they know the first thing about being a supervillain
Michael Shan these villains make me sick least Terry got a good rogues gallery
Joker: In my day...
Bonk: Okay, Boomer.
Joker: *pulls out gun*
The laughing Boomer vs the thugish Zoomer.
Joker: Okay zoomer
Joker put the BOOM in boomer with that harpoon gun
@@ricardoweber5744 And then Bonk went ZOOM, all the way to the afterlife.
0:39 lol didn't expect him to call bonk a putz.
Joker saying "that's also how we did it in my day" at 1:19 is a rather clever reference to his first death.
Even the same gun.
Terrace Luster That's not funny!
The spartan 3120 twenty-seven ...Oh what the heck, I'll laugh anyway. **insert Joker laugh**
clever is a strong word
In the same hands no less.
The animation when Joker's face is hidden in shadow is really well done :) It makes him look so sinister
Joker having red eyes with white pupils is something that fits him extremely well. It's kind of a shame we don't see unique yet fitting design aspects with villain and hero designs that much these days.
Do we ever see bonk again? A cameo, alternate reality, universe, DC comics remake, etc?...
I honestly wouldn't mind if they kept that design, especially alluding to who he really turned out to be
When I was a kid this was perhaps my first introduction of the Joker.
@@aroperdope Bonk appears in an alternative timeline in a Justice League episode in which Terry appears as well
Mark Hamill is the best Joker - live action or animation. He just captures the sinister nature so well.
+David Smith Mark Hamil! You mean "The Mark Hamil" of Star Wars as Luke Skywalker???!!! Voiced as the Joker?! That's sick....AND AWESOME!!!
+Jade-chan21 Yeah, I felt the same way too....Now I can't watch the old trilogy without thinking of the Joker's laugh
+Marc Rizkalla He promised Yoda he'd never turn evil.... then became the most evil bastard ever. XD
+Jade-chan21 He also voiced The Phoenix King/Fire Lord Ozi from Avatar: The Last Air Bender.
ryanibe08 No way!!!! Are you serious??!!! This is soo cool!!
I love how Woof who's normally snarling and cackling actually said to Joker "We're with you."
Frank Welker, voice of the classic Megatron and Stripe from Gremlins, voices Woof.
@@eyeseer1 what? no way. Megatron is subservient to Joker tho, that's legit. I dunno any villain, except maybe Darkseid who would be able to step up the the Clown Prince.
I liked that. Though i kinda wished we'd had more interaction between the dede's and joker considering we find out they're Harley's kids. So it's possible joker was the dad..
Btw thanks for that too had no idea that it was Frank welker! That's awesome!
@@Saint_nobody for some reason that reminds me of even he met red skull and finds out what he is he tells him something like " i may be a criminal and a lunatic but I'm an American criminal lunatic!" . Then he even tells everyone around to stop red skulls his to take out.
Frankly he's so unpredicatable yet generally insane enough i think your right. Given proper circumstances he'd have pretty much anyone but the biggest bads following him.. sometimes even the biggest like here haha.
He learned English out of sheer fear and self-preservation
Fun fact: Mark Hamill himself admitted he felt unsettled with with his portrayal of the Joker here. Let's put in perspective that the Joker did plenty of messed up stuff during his time in the DCAU, from abusing Harley to creating toxin that could make people laugh to death, yet what happened here, the Joker mentally torturing Robin to the breaking point and trying to steal his body decades later, was what really made Mark disturbed. Yeah, this is without a doubt, the most evil version of the Joker ever adapted outside the comics.
Honestly I’m glad they made Joker like that cause that’s what he’s about right? Just nothing but pure evil and chaos. Heck, Batman literally almost broke his no killing code and threw a knife, aiming right at Joker’s head. That’s what Joker wants, he wants to drive Batman mad by making him breaking his code.
@@Tman23No? Stop using Ledger's passable version of Joker as your basis for the character. He does commit crime to atagonize Batman, but it's hardly chaotic. Kidnapping Tim was just an attempt to break Batman and either push him over the edge, or end him.
Joker's entire schtick is proving no one is infallible and all it takes is just one bad day to break anyone.
@@bruhmanofyear2647Arkham Joker was a whole Devil himself
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#Injustice Joker: HOLD MY BEER!
@@BobNinjaCat Ledger's Joker gave Harvey Dent one bad day, so that kind of came around full-circle, didn't it? lol
Bonk, just got bonked.
Oh yes, HOHAHAHAHHAA
***** I love it!
LOL Good one
Speaking of, I swear that Ghoul makes me think a little of the Scout from Team Fortress 2, just from his appearance and voice. It's almost like that could be an outfit (or costume, rather ;)) for Scout in the Halloween updates. (wait, those are updates, right)
The Joker thanks b0ss
I love this version of Joker so much, it's too bad he wasn't a regular rogue in the series. The dark reveal of his face, the jokes, everything is such a perfect way and the kill itself is super great too.
the cartoon series Batman Beyond while pushing the limits of what they could get away with at the time really couldn't have done him justice as a character.
@@hdofu they did here at least but the show maybe but for how long he would have to die eventually much like Freeze did in his only episode appearance there's only so much you can do with pre established characters that would feel reused in a show like this.
They actually had to tell Hamill multiple times to dial it back.
This is unrelated but isn’t Joker aware he’s in a comic?
back when DC made good animated series I miss the old school 1999 to 2000s cartoons nowadays the new stuff is just batwheels and that show sucked
"Bonk? Oh right. Dead!"
I'm curious. When Joker acknowledges Bonk being dead, is he breaking the fourth wall? I mean, he's looking right at us...
John Canary I think he's looking at the group.
ah.
Is it bad that I laughed when he said that?
Nope!
Mark Hamill is at the top of is game in this movie.
Yea
Even he was unsettled by this particular version of the Joker.
It's a TV show
@@jd2161 No, this in particular was a movie.
2:28 So...now Christopher Walken is working with the Joker instead of the Penguin? Good trade up.
You beat me to it.
It wasn't just my imagination! I heard the exact same.
*Scarecrow
Fuckin' moron.
The guy doing the Christopher Walken voice originally did it only as a prank, but everyone loved it so much that he decided to make it last the whole movie.
+theonetruephobia, you're the moron. Did you got see Batman Returns, the movie where Christopher Walken played a villain working with The Penguin? Fucking idiot.
Joker putting these disrespectful little nobodies in their place. Love it.
Especially since the twins are his granddaughters.
LectricSigma(Σ) Ghoul gets bonus points for sounding like Christopher Walken though.
And for being the closest thing show had to a future version of Scarecrow (Excluding Spellbinder who was more a mix of Mad Hatter and Scarecrow)
@@155chipmunkz They're not actually his grand daughter's remember Harley never had kids with Joker
Wonder what J-Man would do if he met Joker
"Ah, brave new world... that has such putzes in it..."
...Joker reads Shakespeare... That's kinda awesome.
Hey Robin, jolly Robin,
Tell me how thy lady does.
My lady is unkind, perdy.
Alas, why is she so?
I was about to tell you it was from aldous huxley when i remembered they cited it from otello XD...
@@zanir2387 I know the quote "brave new world, that has such people in it!" from Shakespeare's The Tempest, by the character Miranda.
It’s actually “Ah, brave new world, that has such yutzes in it.”.
The weird and sad part about this scene is that Bonk dosen't think their new boss is the Joker and while the rest of the Jokerz (That's the name of their gang I think. It's been a while since I watched this movie) may or may not agree with him, they do think their new boss is treating them like crap and wants it to stop. As soon Joker points a gun at Bonk, the gang immediately panics and probably begins to think this guy is the Joker or that this definately proves it. So then Joker kills Bonk and the gang has no doubt in their mind that this is the Joker. The weird thing about this is that Joker killing Bonk is probably one of the least horrible things that he's done. That's how you know the gang are just kids and not actual, you know, real real criminals. Any real criminal could have killed Bonk right in front of their faces with a smile on his face but these kids don't have that knowledge. They obviously didn't except their to be any killing involved(even Bonk). Some of you might say "Well these kids must have some knowledge of the Joker and what's he has done." And yeah they obviously do, that's why they allow Joker to treat them like that. Imagine if your in their positon :Your just a bunch of low level criminals trying to make a quick buck and go for some thrills and then suddenly your city's most famous criminal and terrorist comes to you and tries to recruit you to basically be his henchmen. This man who has killed dozens of people, destroyed the city countless times, and has left a mark on history that will probably never be forgotton. Moved on from but never forgotten. And he wants to recruit you to be his henchmen. How do you say no to one of the most dangerous man on the planet? You don't.
I'd agree they're impressionable teenagers, but I'd say they were at least willing to kill - not on purpose, like an execution, but say, pushing Batman off a ledge, or throwing cops into a grinder. The death of a person isn't what affected them. It's the execution of it.
Firstly, it proves to them that their idol and leader is a dangerous man. Initially they might've followed him out of fear and respect - but without the full knowledge that he's actually willing to MURDER THEM if they refuse his orders. They might've been thinking a slap, some beating up like an upset parent, not death. And secondly, look at the way the Joker does it - he's firstly shown like a monster in shadows, with just his red eyes flashing. He does all of his threatening nonchalantly, even amusingly - this isn't anything important to him, just some fun. At this moment he proves that they're dispensible and he's more than willing to kill them for amusement. And this is what terrifies most people, even criminals, about the Joker - he's unstable, unpredictable, and he WILL kill you without hesitation. Even seasoned henchmen would be terrified of working under this guy.
Yeah Joker doesn't take No for an answer. If you don't cooperate he'll find a way to make you cooperate just he did to some the guards in Arkham
They didn't know enough about the joker. You'd think the twins would know more since their grandma(or was it aunt) is Harley. It is arguable that Harley probably wanted to leave that past buried, but I feel like she would mention it to a family or two at some point in her later years.
Real criminals? In real life? They’d probably be just as horrified if they saw a friend gunned down up close. lol
Compared to what he did to Tim in this movie, Bonk got off light.
Wow, I'm surprised they were able to allow the Joker to confirm a person died. In the original animated series, they had to make sure Joker never killed anyone.
Because Return of the Joker was a theatrical film. It had far less restrictions on it because of that.
This wasn't for the tv series, this was a movie so there hands were less tied with the story, also this was the director's cut (he gases him in the other version after the bang)
I recall people being exposed to Joker Toxin in the original series. I could be remembering wrong of course.
@@jamesvach6698 I'm watching the series from the beginning because I never had the opportunity to watch it as a child, and I have to say that the censorship is very noticeable, people who fall from several meters high to miraculously fall on top of a tree or a trampoline, and It's the same with laughing gas, it doesn't kill or deform, it just makes you laugh, and at most it causes permanent dementia due to long exposure, but it doesn't kill, that's for sure.
(Sorry for the bad english, i'm using Google Translate 😅)
I have to say, it shows that before it was very restricted, one has to get that idea when watching series or movies that already have their yesterdays, but that doesn't stop them from being classics.
@@Juanchi3110 If you say so. I must have remembered it different when I saw it as a child since I was certain there were at least a few deaths given how a few characters exclusive to this version were never seen again after a certain point. At any rate there certainly seem to be a lot of very close calls from what I can remember, people who would have died if not for being treated. Perhaps it is just my memories being mistaken. Don't worry about your English, I couldn't tell you were using a translating tool and I understand your points. I have seen much worse comments that are harder to understand although to be fair that is more a matter of sentence structure than the language itself.
“Ah brave new world that has such putzes in it.” Nice pun.
Joker may be a lunatic, but he’s a well-read lunatic.
"Oh, right. Dead."
Don't know why, but I find that frickin' hilarious.
The red eyes almost make it seem like there's something literally not human to him. That would explain a lot.
Yes i'm glad someone pointed it out
Joker is an energy across generations
Joker isn't a human, he's a caricature posing as a human.
As a kid I remember being surprised as how more malevolent this joker seemed to be compared to the one shown in TAS
Well dying and coming back in the body of an experimental test subject suggests Joker might actually be a mad genius of neuroscience to pull off how he did it in this universe tends to leave one a bit more intense.
The Joker was that malevolent in a lot of TAS episodes. Remember Mad Love? Or the episode with Charlie Collins? Or the one where he tried to set off a nuke? Or Wild Cards (technically a Justice League episode, but even so)?
that's because he was in his element back when he was fighting the original batman. he had more obedient minions, and he was up against a nemesis he actually enjoyed fighting, so he didn't need to be as edgy or be as short fused as he was around these young punks who were wearing his makeup and not even pulling the gag right. It's not so much that he was never malevolent, it's just this new time period brought out the worst in him
I love how joker is played off in this clip... He's not a man....hes like a demon, a spirit of hell made flesh.
If you watch the whole episode that is actually a pretty accurate description metaphorically speaking
@@ljevans3156 It’s a movie, mate, not just an episode.
Bruce Timm based Joker’s haircut here on Hannibal Lecter in commentary.
He's a clown in a purple jumpsuit. Not much more to it than that. Just a loser who thinks he's got a message to send, but in reality, just a lunatic.
Probably since he was killed in the past and yet we see him still standing
I've always liked Joker's design in this movie, he's like a human version of Frieza
New Gotham, New rules
Sees Bonk killed "And nothing of value was lost."
Imagine how mad Bonk must’ve been when he saw the memory board get destroyed to seriously not consider the consequences of backtalking the fucking Joker.
There was an earlier scene where he abandoned the huge globe-shaped thing they were trying to steal. Even after one of the Dee-Dee twins fell off the flying vehicle, Terry was hanging onto her by a thread, but Bonk still kept going at him. Plenty of young men, and especially teenagers (I should know, I was one) have gotten into trouble on account of an uncontrollable temper.
Considering how he didn't think it was the real Joker, it goes to show how these new thugs using the villain's name don't realize just how insane and homocidal the real Joker was (or is)
you know kids a lot has change while your old uncle joker's been away. New Gotham, new rules
even a new bat man.
But now I'm tanned, I'm rested and I'm ready to give this old town a wedgie again!
I need to know that your with me, let me here you say it just once.
kleetus iscarnage little louder
kleetus iscarnage Dee Dee?
Don't know why the scarecrow guy turns into Christopher Walken when he gets on the computer but it still makes me laugh every time.
me too lmao i was like "wait..."
As Harley once said. "Ya take what he gives and hope it is not a bullet" bonk should have known
Mark Hamill sounds waaay better as Joker here than nowadays. I dunno why, but the lower and much calmer tone of voice he speaks with here makes him sound like that much *more* of a threat (to me at least).
you know that people do something called aging
Mark Hamill ain’t exactly the spring chicken he used to be. He’s even admitted that doing the Joker impression physically hurts him due to age.
It’s the script he follows when playing the part. Mark could still do a calm, intimidating Joker voice if he wanted to.
@@sonicalltheway8179 Is he still called upon sometimes, though?
@@teleportedbreadfor3days I believe his last appearance was justice league action
the red dots for eyes are a perfect touch.
he's the most...normal(?) looking person in the room, but he seems the most inhuman.
*The Joker:* shoots a man point-blank.
*Also the Joker:* "I'm going to give this town a wedgie!"
This is The Joker after all. By "giving the town a wedgie" he meant "blasting certain parts of the town with a satelite lazer carving a smiley face that can be seen from up high while also killing a shitton of people"
@@BadassHater1 Exactly. He's like a kid with incredibly destructive toys that thinks of mass murder like tea time.
This was the movie I remember first seeing Mark Hamills joker. And wow the way he lingered in the shadows with his red eyes and powerful voice before revealing that big sinister smile; this scene alone showed me this guy was something unlike anyone else. Especially the fear he put in his crew and later on the entire city as they are reminded of the man they all feared so many years ago and still to this day. Mark Hamill is THE Joker 🐐
Oh......my.....GGGGGGOOOOOODDDDDDDD I FUCKING LOVE THIS JOKER!
what did u expect. this Mark Hamill. This guy *IS* the Joker
He's playing a future Joker, not the regular Joker.
AfroToriFanMan He's a displaced-in-time Joker, but for the most part he is the "regular Joker" in all the ways that count.
ztslovebird In robins body.
AfroToriFanMan
But created by and based on the original Joker.
I love how this Joker's voice is subtly different than the original Joker; it hints the true nature of his character 👀
To be frank, compare Mark Hamill's voice here to his BTAS take, he's improved a lot.
@@justinesun631his voice was always perfect imo he just got older
The fact that Joker kills Bonk in the exact way Tim Drake killed the Joker is… just… so Joker-ish
The fact that the joker plays off the real jokers death like it’s nonchalant is so joker .
Considering the fact that Bonk's corpse was smiling unnaturally this means Joker also laced that shot with his trademark toxin.
Which is kinda overkill since the guy would be dead either way but.....hey gotta keep the tradition rolling i guess.
Seems very insightful for Rogal Dorn.
@@MrReich1918 I AM ADORABLE!
Joker always liked sending his victims out with a smile
It's his trademark.
I honestly don't think a shot like that in that area would have killed him, I mean sure in a few hours maybe but not instantly like that. So yeah it was probably the toxin that killed him so quickly, it wasn't even that close to the heart and even if it had been a direct hit to the heart you can actually survive with no heartbeat for about, however long your body can live without oxygen so around three minutes give or take.
Christopher Walken Scarecrow is super underrated
And I had no idea that it was Flash/Lex Luthor
There's two ways that bonk died one he was stabbed by a little flag and two he was infected with jokers laughing gas
Apollodragon 2000 Why not both?
Either way he both dies smiling
@@gif303It is also possible that the little flag killed him first before the Joker Toxin it was laced with did. The fact that Bonk wasn't smiling after he saw the gun go off and there was no laughter from him after he was shot should be proof.
2:32 There's something really pleasing to me about this tiny bit of acting, from the Joker. No giggling, no japes, just him very thoughtfully running down a list of options, and writing off each one in turn. Makes him feel just a little more human.
Joker, You have never played peace walker have you? Memory boards can go to making bipedal walking weapons.
A nice metal gear reference
The memes
Well, that is until Batman becomes the most powerful human being in the world through the use of cibernetics and splits your mech wide open
@@davisdf3064Batman Beyond with a HF Blade… I mean, Curarè had a similar gimmick, but it would be cool to see Terry McGinnis try his hand at futuristic swordplay.
Dee Dee being asked to take out the garbage is an amazing little nod to me. BTAS Joker from what I remember used Harley more than henchmen. So him asking Harley's Granddaughters to do the grunt work just tickles my fancy.
DAMN. That was dark.
It's Gotham, what do you expect?
toxic tabby cartoon network baby!
Bragi the Skaldic King Was it? Well that's good... It explains some stuff
But look how happy Bonk was! XD
Bryce Flint
Mark Hamill is truly the voice of the Joker. He really knows how to express the Joker’s twisted sense of humor.
Heath and Joaquin were great as Joker but Mark's various versions of the Joker are #1. He knows the Joker so well. He knows how to voice him. Just like Kevin Conroy with Batman
Only Mark Hamill can hold back when directed to do so and manage to one-up himself by portraying by far the most terrifying, threatening take on his Joker of all time.
“Whoops! No I wasn’t!”
That’s when I knew it was the Joker for sure, and not only because he stepped into the light.
Imagine they saw Jared Leto's joker picture on the computer, Joker would scream horror and in disgust...
The actor has his own style of acting. It can't be expected for someone to act exactly like somebody eles. This is the original Joker. And Jered acted his "own" Joker. It's his way/style. In SQ is Jered's Joker.
@@saysolinka109 And he sucked
@@saysolinka109 Yea, but unlike Jack Nicholson, Heath ledger, and Joaquin Phoenix, Jared Leto's a douchebag who took his Joker character so seriously that he purposely harassed his co-stars by being a creep while making them refer to him as "Mr. J". Not to mention his joker performance was so terrible that they literally had to cut most of his scenes from the movie.
But his hairstyle is similar here, so I don't think he would have shouted
I like this version a lot more than the censored version. This one is perfect for a joker gag, both funny and horrifying at the same time.
What was the censored version?
@@zendzend5107 The gun was filled with Joker venom, which explains the smile on Bonk's face. Well, that and lazy animation.
Wow and it was already pretty kid-friendly to begin with.
The almost Nerf-like with the orange tip? No blood at all? They think children can't handle that and wonder why they grow up into whiny adults. My parents showed my LOTR when I was 8 and Terminator 2 when I was 10, kids can handle a little gore.
I love the shadow joker design with the red eyes. It really speaks about this version more than others.
at first, I thought that was the TNBA Joker. But nope, it's a mix of BTAS Joker and TNBA Joker or the Justice League Joker
This movie did an excellent job of taking the shows Joker villain group and showing you that they’re no where near as dangerous as the original Joker after building them up throughout the show only to break them down in the movie.
I love how the clone joker just mocks these kids , joker is right ofc because these are just kids playing a dangerous game that they aren’t prepared for , we also most keep in mind that if not all but most of Bruce old enemies are either missing, or in Arkham . I do like that when clone joker says that is also how they did it in my day , I think that he was referring to robin shooting the original joker , this joker seems to have all the memories of the original joker 🃏 and knowing joker , I’m not surprised if he would mock the original joker’s death .
1:02 those newbies should appreciate the classic jokes, with the killer twist.
Wow....I love this version of Joker
2:35 SCP articles be like
I think what would have been a good foreshadowing of the Joker controlling Tim Drake body was if he said, "...put a smile in this heart" instead of "...put a smile in my heart"
logically speaking, if DD is the grandkids to Harley, and Tim (Renamed Joker Jr.) is the illegally adopted son of Joker and Harley, then he would be DD's Uncle J... What a messed up family...
0:53
That smile, Just that cursed smile, and the kids sit down back to the floor XD
I love how much this movie highlights the difference between the Joker and the Joker gang. They really are a gang, mostly posturing. But the Joker is a monster a purely human monster, one who made gods and demons second guess messing with him. They are criminals but he is the Joker
Mark Hamill is the best Joker - live action or animation. He just captures the sinister nature so well.
Why does Ghoul sound like Christopher Walken?
Funny story behind that... the voice actor who played him had done a Christopher Walken impression before during a recording session for another production, and they thought it was so good they asked him to do it for Ghoul.
lol at joker's face at 2:01
Right dead
Trademark Joker, whacked Bonk without second thought, displaying that disturbing, menacing grin. A much more dangerous and ruthless psychopath in Batman Beyond.
Bonk made the big mistake to offend Joker like that, with his bad mouthing and he casually snuffed out Bonk like a candle, as if nothing happened.
The rest of the gang were too scared to refuse to pledge loyalty, fearful that Joker would also end them if they did, after seeing for themselves just how dangerous and sinister Joker is.
Joker won't think twice if he wanted to kill or torture someone and with that sinister smile he displays.
This series is so dark. It's bloody awesome!
Give me one of those twins
I wonder if the Joker knows he is working with his Grandchildren the Dee Dee's?
So Joker is the father of Harley's daughter, Lucy?
@@saysolinka109 it was never confirmed but even so it doesnt make sense because he and Harley didnt want any real kids of their own. Joker died and fast forward to Harley as an old woman and she has granddaughters so its assumed that she moved on and had her own family without joker
@@Spongebrain97 I see, I'm kinda confused cuz in the game I saw, said that after joker died, Batman found Harley's pregnancy test and it's positive. :I
Solinka Say The Arkham games are a completely different universe than the animated series
@@Lotselance yeah, that's what i thought as well. Now i don't know what's really going on😅
Why did jonk tried to stand up to the Jonkler ofcorse he killed him was he stupid?
He had too much bonkler juice
"Bonk? .... Oh right... dead."
Savage
You copied someone else 😐
@@nateantwon2054 Who? I posted this almost half a decade ago.
The first hint that this Joker is not the real Joker...how quiet he is, how uncharacteristically calm. Yes he is nuts but he's also controlled. Too controlled.
I can definitely see Joker pulling a "back in my day" line if he had ever lived past 50 (probably something like the grandpa from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre franchise).
0:33 did the joker always have black nails from the chemicals or does he paint them? Because I can only imagine him sitting in a little chair painting his nails 😂
It's sad to know that Mark won't be voicing the Joker anymore.
And I can understand his reason - Joker is nothing without Batman #RIPKevinConroy
1:11 Creepy Joker
That was BONKers
Really goes to show that the dot eyes work better as a menacing visual when his face is shadowed, and not as a constant detail like it was in TNBA.
Him thinking that it was going to be easy to leave a gang that the joker has control over shows he didn't really know who he was dealing with
never ok boomer the joker, dude
smh
feminism sucks God damn right. Also Islam is right about women, so take their rights away/repeal the 19th amendment and all this feminism bullshit ends.
BONK! Not only was your costume RED AND BLACK LIKE HARLEY QUINNS but ou had to go on and INSULT THE DAMN JOKER ANYWAYS! You know he hates harley quinn colored goons that talk back!
in the censored version, the gun shoots out laughing gas.
So, Bonk dies laughing.
@@ericdevries3974 Either way Bonk goes out with a smile.
That’s the version I saw first on VHS. I just got the digital copy of it, but I don’t know if this is on it yet.
Those twins are something else tho...
Nobody going to mention the Christopher Walken sounding scarecrow? 😆
BACK IN MY DAY I HAD BATMAN QUESTION HIS OWN MORALITY
Seriously does anyone else thing the Joker gas version is way worse? I mean in one he just gets stabbed in the chest in the other he's still dying while everyone's watching him uncontrallably laughing and then that horrific grin afterwards.
M ARKHAM ILL
why is scarecrow a twink
"Ah brave new world...that has such putzes in it."
Quite the great quote from the Joker, a combination of a reference to a classic Shakespeare line mixed with 1930s/1940s gangster slang. The character always rode that line between high class and psychotic low-brow mobster, fitting for his schizophrenic nature as a clown criminal.
Is The Joker even aware that these two girls are Harleys granddaughters?
Probably, I think they joined him in the first place because of that
Fun fact: Bonk is played by Henry Rollins. Yes, that Henry Rollins.
but think of the fun.
I only watch the uncut version.
and this isn't the uncut version?
boiledcrap oh
boiledcrap wait, why did I reply to a comment that was posted 2 YEARS AGO
Shawn Jackson I don’t know you must feel stupid!😆
Wait...
I saw both versions of this.
this joker kindof reminds me of Frieza in his first form someow
***** lol, lucky he's not wearing the same tight black undies as freeza...
The Devil skin color too
I always thought Chris Ayres Frieza sounded like a less raspy Joker
same
The Joker really looks like Frieza taking on a human form.
Bonk: He’s not with us.
Luke skywalker you are one messed up dude
*Throws around a dead body.
*Kids animation.
They call themselves The Jokers but he will always be the original.
is it tim drakes body?
I like how when the Joker kills one person to make an example, the entire group never jumps him.
Thats because no matter if they called themselves the joker these guys were in the end nothing more than a bunch of punks
And now every single one of his henchmen is too afraid to stand up to the Joker.
0:25
Joker: what in the actual fuck
Why would ANYONE, EVER, work for, or, with Joker, he's either killed, or, TRIED to kill EVERYONE he's EVER worked with, even Harlequin!? I KNOW, one day, he's going to go to where ever criminal masterminds go to hire goons, (Henchmen R Us!) and, they're gonna say"Sorry Mr. Joker, we're fresh out of henchmen, muscle,, and, goons!".
Joker: "Really!? For how long!?"
Henchmen R Us: "About the same time you called in, asking about henchmen, 5-6 minutes ago!"
Frieza…
The fact that those twins were Harley's granddaughters