I'm very interested In this game for multiple reasons. 1) I'd love to be involved with a game from its beginning like how some people were there at the beginning of Magic. 2) I love the villainous series and enjoy Ravensberger as a developer so I support all they do. 3) gotta love Disney lol
warcraft killed itself due to blizzards greed, the only thing that will kill magic is WotC (and they starting on that path so far this year) it is that similar issue both games have time and $$$ invested is hard to overcome unless your tcg is dirt cheap on release and has low monetary needs to get into it it will fail cus people will just go yeah i would rather spend 400$ on commander singles i'm missing
@@VCV95 Forest Song is nothing more than a gimmick alternate win condition, if you want something more consistent maybe try Pocahontas' Paint With All The Colors strategy
I'm really excited for Lorcana for one reason. I have a lot of friends and family that refuse to touch magic cards, but might be willing to play a TCG if its characters they know and love already.
@Lind Morn aghh ahhh your an idiot. Ahhh ahhh. It is Disney you fool. Watch more clownfish and less cnn. Disney collectors will buy this up like Disney world merch.
Being a MTG player since ‘97 (until recently where I find FaB to be a more rewarding experience), I agree that there is a charm that this could bring, and if there is great (not good, it has to be great) game play, then I would be happy to collect and play competitively with this product. This may cut more into the market of those who play SolForge/KeyForge as alternative CC games.
@Lind Morn You realize the game is still half a year out, right? How much of a competitive scene did you expect Lorcana to have right now, when no one even has a deck yet?
I'm excited for Lorcana because my wife and daughter are excited, and they have never cared about a card game before. I'm hoping this can be a good first step into the world of TCGs for a lot of people who never would've considered it before
As someone with a little daughter who loves Disney characters, I feel like this would be a great stepping stone for her into a hobby her dad has loved for many, many years. As well as being thematically friendly for her age.
I kind of had the same thought with my nieces. Once they are old enough it would be fun to introduce them to this and teach them the mechanics of card games through Lorcana. An Elsa deck would be my nieces most prized possession lol
i mean why worry about a thing that isn't really competing with you? Lorecana is competing with Pokemon more than magic, its competing for children, and old school TV nostalgia. The people that don't like current magic aren't going to like where lorecana is in the next year.
@@altosforteaquax5083 evidence of what? the fact that Pokemon and Disney are both targeted towards Children by Pokemon being aired on a kids network and Disney owning its own kids network? both have been a thing for over 2 decades, so both children and adults have been fans for nearly their whole life. but Pokemon TCG has been around for the last 26 years and still isn't dethroning Magic so like the Prof said people will just collect the cards and not really play them just like with Pokemon, people collect and a tiny % actually play.
@@altosforteaquax5083 following Wizards profit reports the things people complain about the most is what makes them the most money. Disney doesn't care about a card game, they care about money. They are doing this to try to make the most money so it will be either the Pokémon method or Wizards methods. Which clearly isn't going to pull anyone away from Magic. If Disney follows Wizards monetization scheme then it won't be long before Lorcana looks almost exactly like current Magic. And that's if they aren't going to simply follow the secret lair method only.
As someone who's dabbled in MTG over the years but has always felt sort of like they got into the hobby too late, Lorcana looks to be the answer to that issue; being here at the game's inception is far more appealing than sinking a bunch of money and research into an existing and established property. Plus, when it comes to just opening packs, it's going to be a treat to actually recognise and be surprised by cards depicting characters and artefacts that I enjoy. I'll certainly be someone who plays Lorcana as well as collecting it, but it'll also be far easier to open a pack and go "Oh hell yeah, I got Tarzan!" instead of "Oh that artwork is kind of cool, no idea if it's a good card though, let me go home and Google it." Ultimately, I'm the kind of person (especially with a girlfriend who only has a passing interest in tabletop and card games but adores Disney) for whom Lorcana seems the best of both worlds.
This is me. I’ve always been interested in getting into MGT but with how complex it is and how much money it costs to get set up it’s not worth it for me. Getting in on Lorcana at its inception is a plus.
Why not try Flesh and Blood then? I’ve found it more balanced than MTG style games like Lorcana seems to be. A card game with more modern mechanics I guess
Agreed, sometimes sitting down to play games that have been out for decades is overwhelming. Weather it be tcgs or online games it can feel a lot more approachable when your starting fresh. I played yugioh in the early 2000s and when I returned to it a few years ago the dozens of new mechanics has warped gameplay into something almost unrecognizable. The resource management that mana offers in MTG keeps the gameplay feeling similar enough but the numerous different formats that have been released over the years can be really confusing to new players looking for other people to sit down and play with.
@@altosforteaquax5083 You know I was really interested in the 40k decks they were making but the more I think about it the more I hate this and all the other crossover stuff aside from the D&D sets. At least WOTC can reprint those (they won't, but they can.)
@@altosforteaquax5083 I've heard a lot of people say that and I kind of agree. I like the d20 mechanic, in theory, and AFR has Red Dragon is one of my favorite last minute win cards. But both sets are really low power level wise, especially Baldur's Gate.
@@altosforteaquax5083 Well given I don't even like D&D, I'd never have noticed. He should have been a dual faced Planeswalker like the M19 Nicol Bolas was. Maybe that would have made that card actually playable.
As soon as I heard about lorcana I was excited because I thought it could be a good intro to TCGs for my kids. We love Disney themed games and I love MTG but it’s a bit complicated for my littles. I also could see myself collecting the cards as well 😮
I know it might sound strange but one reason to look forward to Lorcana to me would be convincing a somewhat estranged family member to get into TCGs. She's a huge Disney fan, but always hated on MTG even though my siblings and I love to play. She wouldn't even hear us out about why we liked the game, but with this Disney branding, I know she's going to be interested. My hope is that we can mend some family ties and explore this new game together, and maybe someday, she would even let us explain what MTG is really all about.
I get not being interested in, but hate? I mean, i guess it's structured as a trap for kids, which is a good reason to hate on it...but that extends to any tcg in general so i don't think it fixes anything.
While Lorcana is not going to replace Magic, Pokemon or Yugioh, it is a stable game. I disagree with prof, Lorcna will be a player first - collector second game. I lave many MtG decks, but have started selling off my magic cards. I already have and playing 4 Lorcana decks at my LGS. The biggest threat to Lorcana would be losing their Disney license, which would be - game over. What I like about Lorcana is its freshness in deck design, strategies, and am hoping for a competitive format. I am not a collector and only partially care about the fun Disney art on the cards. I am after coming up with new deck strategies and seeing it work in games. I do know Lorcana is selling like hot cakes and that alone will give it some drive. I agree, many TCG's have come and gone over the years. Riot's online digital tcg, Legends of Runeterra, just bit the dust and while Pokemon is going good, their new online tcg platform is just trash. Lorcana, Flesh and Blood and the slew of new tcg's hitting the market will not topple Magic, Hasbro is capable of doing that in one fell swoop.
Meh. There's been tons of pseudo-TCGs aimed at kids for decades now. It's just a way to sell cheap cards for a great price to kids. It doesn't establish new TCGs. All this discussion about the future of Lorcana seems very optimistic to me. Chances are that it's just a passing fad.
Remember when people thought Yugioh was going to kill Magic? (Despite that the in-universe Duel Monsters that Yugioh's card game was based on was a tribute to / copyright-friendly stand-in for MTG that was largely defictionalized by curious and enthusiastic Magic players themselves...)
1 year later. I have fully switched from MTG to Lorcana after the Lord of the Rings MTG set. I've introduced 4 people to Lorcana and play with them. They know about MTG but haven't played it. The MTG group I used to play with has fizzled out.
I usually skip the ad portion but I'm glad I didn't this time because it makes me happy to hear that the Prof is listening to Sabriel. I love that series and I'm surprised it's not more popular.
Garth Nix's Old Kingdom series is one of my favorite book series of all time and I was genuinely shocked to hear it come up in the sponsorship. They're amazing dark fantasy books that deserve a lot more exposure.
Flesh And Blood player here! I also play MTG casually from time to time, either physical or digital. I'm very interested in Lorcana. I really like Disney, and I have kids that are just in the right age when this comes out next year to maybe care about it. I don't see them being into Pokémon a lot, but Lorcana might be something they'll be interested in playing, so that's a main reason for me to check it out. I hope for it to be a fun casual game, I don't see myself getting really compettive in it. Could be fun just for collecting, too.
Disney as a company is a shell of it's former self. That said, Lorcana will be a big hit with kids and collectors and will probably make quite a few people rich in 2 or so decades from now.
The main designer was on board with Magic way back in Core Set 2011. What I consider a great time to play magic the gathering. Things are not like that now. But with him leading the charge it has me interested in Lorcana to say the least.
Well, here we are a year later and my LGS has Friday Night Lorcana and Friday Night Magic. Lorcana tables are always full and bleeding over to tables that used to be MTG.
Good point on the cohesion. It's been growing for a while (especially IMHO with the D&D Showcases) and Lorcana might be the thing to reveal it as an issue.
One year later and things look completely different. I tried out Lorcana with Magic friends and also my wife and all of them loved it. The gameplay, the cards, the prizes, there is only one booster you can pull everything from common to even enchanted, it’s getting reprints a lot so you can afford singles easily and play really strong decks or just buy „older“ sets, because it’s made to be played and having fun, not emptying your wallet, the Illumeneers Quest playing Coop with my wife or alone to test decks is such a bomb, I am totally in love with this game. Magic started killing itself a couple years ago easily, I have a huge list why I would suggest someone picking up Lorcana over Magic.
Garth Nix was my favorite writer when I was younger. The Aborshen series (Sabriel) and Shade's Children are amazing books. Glad to see it getting some visibility here on one of my favorite MTG channels!
I use the surname Abhorsen in pretty much every mmo that I play. Fucking wild that Tim Curry did the narration for the audio book I had no idea till now.
Hell yeah, I've gotten some of my students so interested in the Abhorsen series, but finding copies in Korean for them to read has been near impossible. I want to find a copy and digitize it to preserve and share it with them
Art and templating are the first things that draw me to a card game and I think Lorcana is doing great in that regard (though I don’t actually believe the cards look anything like mtg cards). Now I wanna know what the rules are.
It's gonna be the Collecting aspect for me. Unless the game is extremely well balanced, people are gonna find the best cards in a week, then the prices for those cards will skyrocket (like that one cloak thing from Flesh and Blood that was basically their Black Lotus, except legal in their Standard, so budget decks weren't as competitive)
At least in my area, this has not aged well. At this point in my local LGS each week there is about 40 people playing Lorcana every week, 20 FaB, 20 Yo-gi-Oh, 20 One Piece every two weeks and exactly no more regular Magic players. To be fair, the sentence "Lorcana cannot unseat Magic" is true as Magic has just completely given up on LGS and enticing new players. So there is nothing to unseat. Magic has just left LGS apart from small FNM in bigger cities.
@@christophercastiglione2603 My LGS is lame because 9 months ago they played a game that yours did not? A game that at the time globally was the second highest grossing TCG in the world and literally sold out it's first three sets in months?
I am excited for Lorcana because Villainous is a good introductory version of Commander for playing with friends and family who don't want to learn things like, "Untap, upkeep, draw." I'm hopeful that Lorcana will be similarly simplified and with those helpful reminder cards, while also being deep and meaningful in its gameplay.
Ok you can't be too meaningful in your gameplay if you remove Untap, Up[keep, Draw just look at Yugioh and how much of a mess that is it makes vintage and legacy in Magic look slow as fuck and i am not even talking about the competitive Yugioh decks
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Yu-gi-oh is messy bc it is just a mess of things. You can simplify phases and steps in Magic by just streamlining without missing much.
Watching this a year later seeing how wrong he was about the competitive lorcana scene is funny. Been witnessing more and more tcg players swapping games to play Lorcana.
The best way I would put this is to spend 5 minutes listing every single major TCG that came out in the last 10 years and ask if any of those even put a dent in mtg
Hearthstone is about it. Though you can argue, in the case of both paper and digital card games, there is more than enough room in the market for people to play a couple different games without really harming the others.
Digimon, Dragonball and F&B all have healthy playerbases, I expect that same out of the One Piece game launching NA later this year, and no they really haven't. If anything they give the wider TCG community more to do. At my store we'll regularly play Digimon casuals, then hop into a magic draft, maybe play in a commander pod, then hop over to the Dragonball table.
A year later, lorcana has had several massive tournaments, feat casual and sweaty players alike, mtg pro tour guys, FaB pros, etc at every single one, unrivaled prize support, the list goes on. Fnm is all but dead. No game will match magic sales bc look at the amount of product. But one thing we can look at is LGS turnout. Lorcana is stomping mtg in that aspect and i live in an area with 15-20+ game stores. It's the same for all of them
I am getting more and more excited for Lorcana, and aside from wanting to collect pretty Disney cards, I mostly want to see how the "Type/Subtype" lines affect gameplay 🙂 (Dreamborn, Floodborn, etc.).
1 Year after this video: I'm IN. I wanted to start finally playing a TCG but I feel like MTG is just too overly saturated and difficult to just play and go, for a new player. Lorcana on the other hand is like Hearth Stone but easier to follow. And I loved Hearth Stone, but didn't like that they didn't have a paper version of the game. Either way, I'm interested in Lorcana for the ease of play and that it is Disney. Also, Ravensburger has been doing an AMAZING job on the art ( a la Villainous) but they do need to work on better foil design...
I would have thought the same thing until I picked the game up and had more fun than ever did with magic, also much more welcoming community and easier to bring in family and friends. Surprisingly has the easy to learn with alot of depth style of development. Can't get enough.
Lorcana does have that nostalgia factor of being what I and many other people grew up loving and watching. So for me the collecting of all my childhood favorites and having them as cards sounds amazing
I'm a big fan Prof, but I feel like parts of this video are in slightly bad faith. The only people who are referring to Lorcana as a 'Magic Killer' are content creators/articles such as yourself, whilst I feel Ravensburger will probably be happy with taking a share of the market and are probably more focused on the Pokemon crowd than the Magic one. I do agree that the downfall of Lorcana will come from it's collectability drying up availability before it's actual target audience even sees it on the shelf... I can only hope that this is preempted and we see supplies flood Targets/Walmarts early on. Whilst Ravensburger have announced a 'robust Organised Play program', I won't hold my breath and instead just hope that this game actually gets into the hands of the families and kids that it's aimed at.
I remember watching this nearly two years ago and thinking, "yeah, Prof is right! Theres no way a new game would kill off mtg!" And here i am, two years later, jumping off of mtg and getting into Lorcana, searching for Lorcana vids. Mtg may have killed itself, so prof might be mostly correct, but the whole situation makes me laugh
I'm interested in hopefully using it as a gateway drug to get my kids into TCG games. We'll have to see how heavy the game is rules-wise, hopefully it's not overly complicated on release!
MTG player/pin collector/CM here, I'm hoping this game is something I can play with my co workers/friends who are not into mtg. When I was working at D23 the foil versions of these initial cards sold out so fast. I could only get my hands on the promo mickey card. It looks like a fun lighthearted game, and I'm excited for my mouse overload to throw his hat into the ring.
The prof is underestimating how much overlap there is with Disney and MTG - I was at D23 as well and got the collector's set from their booth. I also collect pins and other things. This definitive "no it's not going to be anything to worry about" attitude is hubris to say the least.
I get the exact same vibe from Lorcana - Disney saw the explosion of collector markets in the TCG space and decided it wanted in. That's almost certainly what pushed Booster Fun/Secret Lair in the WOTC halls - and I'd even go so far as to theorize they got word this game was coming that helped push Universes Beyond out to us before it was fully cooked (see: Walking Dead)
I think it is probably exactly the opposite of this: Hasbro approached Disney about licensing Star Wars and Marvel IP for Universes Beyond, and the Mouse decided it would make more dollars and cents to get in on the game itself.
ive been playing MTG pretty much all my life. very heavily invested in modern for the past 6ish years... I got to play Lorcana a couple of weeks ago and i think ill start migrating to that game entirely. I dont think lorcana will kill MTG, no one is... but it sure is fun and a fresh breath of air... some MTG pros like frank karsten, and guillerme wafotapa been having fun playing lorcana as well!
Really curious to see how Lorcana plays. Hoping it will be a lighter version of MTG with just enough depth to make it engaging. I can see myself having fun collecting and playing Lorcana, if the gameplay ends up being decent.
I'm definitely curious enough to at least learn how to play. Not likely to really pick it up though. In the 25+ years I've been playing Magic, Arkham Horror LCG is the only game that has captivated me like magic has.
10:00 completely agree here. I kinda got disconnected with mtg recently because for me it doesn´t feel like MTG anymore. I also mistook those Lorcana cards as a new Secret Lair or something. Now, i am only an on and off mtg player because there is just too much. Too much lore, too many sets, too many planes and every time i stop playing for a few months, it´s getting harder and harder to get back in on the fun. I´m actually looking forward to Lorcana as i really like the design and it´s a fresh start to TCG, yet there is already a rich lore which i grew up with as a kid.
What format or formats do you play? I've not been happy with a lot of stuff that WotC has done, but the game still feels like Magic to me, at least the Modern and Pioneer formats do. Commander is the part of Magic that doesn't feel right to me.
My son recently got into MTG by attending a local library program. He was immediately in love with it and he got me hooked too. I'm excited about the Disney Lorcana game because it may also get my wife and daughter into a card game. It would be amazing if my whole family could get into it and maybe even transition into MTG afterward.
Depending on the cost, and if the rules are complicated, I'm looking forward to Lorcana. I know my daughter would love it, and it may actually get my wife into a TCG
This is the first i hear about Lorcana. I must say the cards displayed makes me curious and makes me wanna collect them. As you say I probably won't be playing with 'em but the fact that they seem to be fun to play with and have the oldschool Disney art tickles my inner collector. I think you're right though - they are probably gonna be more of a collectable than to see much play. Time will tell.
Just like a famouse World of Warcraft King once said: No King rules forever. I do think there will be a day where MTG gets dethroned as the biggest card game in the market, but it’s not today or even remotely close. That said, Wotc should be careful not to grow complacent. I do think Disneys attempt at a card game is strong just because it has universal appeal for the most part. The trick is how they handle organized play. That has me really concerned. I think recently weve seen a bunch of good card games come into the market and I think Lorecana will just become another one of those games that are played at times, but nothing to challenge the big 3.
Randomly watching this video a year later I don’t think it’s correct. I played Pokemon and Magic and have sold and moved everything over to Lorcana. Lorcana has imo the best deck building out there. You can pickup any cards and make a deck. My kids and wife who didn’t play Pokemon or Magic before now play Lorcana. We play this daily now and we all love it. The best thing also is you can play with 3+ easilily I think Lorcana will have its own spot and don’t think it will kill Pokemon or Magic
I thought it was understood that only Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh! And Magic had a big space in the market and big events and all other games had their niche communities but not much else. I give them two or three years to make their small space or go the way that many other card games have gone before.
Oh boy were you wrong about Lorcana. I am playing Lorcana myself and have not met a single person so far who only collects. Lorcana has grown very fast and there are a good amount of tournaments already.
The thing about Lorcana is it fills a niche to play with people that aren’t into MTG. You can teach someone to play in 10-15 mins and have a blast. It’s an easy TCG to learn but a really hard game to master. I don’t think it could ever replace MTG which is a far superior TCG but Lorcana is also brand new. The only thing I dislike about Lorcana is it’s a Disney product, but if it gets friends and family to play a TCG around the dining room table I’m sold.
I'm excited for Lorcana as a game to play with my daughter who is about to turn 6. I want to get her into MTG eventually, but I think some of the themes are too scary for her right now. I think she would be on board for a Disney characters game. She liked the look of the Elsa and "Tappy Toe Claws" cards when I showed them to her. She is also slightly interested in Pokemon, so I could pick that up again. I just wish I still had my old cards for it.
Yeah I do hope they do something interesting, cuz currently (which it's not fair to judge yet obviously), it seems very uninspired, but who knows maybe it's mechanically a lot more interesting than it looks
As a Magic player for nearly 5 months now, I *JUST* started getting into Lorcana. My LGS has a weekly Lorcana night and this summer my sister (a fellow Disney adult) and I are planning on attending those nights to learn how to play the game properly. For now, we have just played some very casual games with each other and gotten excited over our pulls from the booster packs.
Not going to lie, the deja vu that Prof. inserted around 5:30 to 6:30 made my genuinely confused and made me question the very reality around me for a moment :D well done, Prof.
I'm super excited about Lorcana. I'm not like super into disney but it is nostalgic. Mostly I'm super interested to see another well backed player enter the space and maybe we'll get an interesting game out of it. That way next time I want a magic break, I can fire up some Lorcana.
Professor, you bring up a great point about how modern MTG cards can look drastically different from eachother now. That's somthing I respect about Yu-Gi-Oh is it doesn't matter if you're looking at a card from the first western released YGO set to their most recent set the aesthetic and card design is identical and instantly recognizable.
I collect Disney pins and I am a MTG player. I am not so certain that there isn't an overlap. There are definitely going to be cards that I will want to collect, yes, but I'm also really excited by the previews for the game mechanics. There also looks to be lots of room for variations and release blocks. I can see blocks based around the Disney Parks, Disney SEA, live action movies like Pirates of the Caribbean and Jungle Cruise, TV shows like Rescue Rangers and Duck Tales... the bench is deep. As long as the mechanics are solid and they add more along the way, I would love to play this.
I'd love to see a retrospective from the Prof on this video a few months from now. Lorcana's only 6 weeks out, but despite supply issues, they seem to be meeting, if not exceeding, MTG numbers in terms of OP. Stores that get 20 people for MTG are getting 50-60 for Lorcana, and that's for *league* play. There's also already been multiple 1K events as well.
You focus way too much on debunking Lorcana as a Magic-killer and not enough on the actual exciting aspect of the game: its potential to expand the hobby.
I tap my Millennium Falcon to put Han Solo into play. Han Solo's keyword ability "transport" is activated allowing me to search my library for 2 protagonists and put them into play. I choose Ariel and Mulan. Now I transform Ariel to her human form which triggers Mulan's keyword ability "avalanche" to destroy your entire field. This gives me 1 "Snow-covered Villain Token". Now I pay this token as a cost to play the instant "Infinity Snap" which allows me to rewrite reality and turn any villain I control to another of my choosing. I choose the Legendary Thanos. Once Thanos is in play I gain 6 infinity stones, I then use all 6 to deal 4 damage per stone to you for 24 damage in total. You lose.
I admit I am curious about Lorcana but a lot of that is the visuals on the cards. I dont really collect physical cards much anymore regardless, so I would hope for a digital version.
As a long time subscriber I can't help but hear the distain for Disney in your voice. I do believe your right on a several points. No this won't affect MTG, F&B, or even Yugi (which you didn't mention in the whole video). I feel their target consumer is the pokemon style player. Like you said Lorcana's consumers will be most likely 75% collector and 25% player. The game will be much like Pokémon where the game is simple but you can find depth if you look hard enough. I've always loved Disney and their IPs now with star wars and marvel they have a huge selection to dig into. I also enjoy Ravensburger board games. They have some fun titles like Jaws and one based on classic movie monsters. I don't think the player who want deep mechanics and a seriously competitive play will switch from MTG to Lorcana. Lor won't scratch that itch, but a family that has younger children and has gaming teens ot parents will get into this as a way to bring hobbies and families together. That's my hope for this game.
I doubt it. The original KH characters are owned by Square Enix. That's why it was such a hassle and wait to get Sora into Smash after all these years.
@@Chiffonaise no they don't. If this was true, why did they remove the KH original characters from the stained glass backgrounds in the KH stage from their originals from the game itself? If Disney owned Sora, why didn't they add him into smash years ago with all these years of them screaming for it? I swear, I don't understand why you people talk about shit you clearly have no knowledge on as if it's fact...
I am very interested in Lorcana, it heavily reminds me of the card game that was in the Magic Kingdome pre Pandemic. I would collect yes, but also try out the play.
Lorcana could do a crossover card batch with MtG and vice-versa to increase friendship between the two games. I liked when Duel Masters and MtG did that, even if I don't think Jace or Bolas was ever really a hit in DM.
The point about art and world being a big point is very true. I myself just got into magic because of the Necron crossover deck, and I love it because the art and mechanics of the cards imo perfectly capture that Warhammer Necron feel.
Im getting some singles of Lorcana for neat art for characters I love. Kingdom Hearts is one of my favorite games, and I grew up on Disney, So this is another collectors item for me. I have a feeling that this will be for some kids, and MILLENIALS who love disney. My niece and my best friend's daughter love disney and the latter wants to learn magic, this may be an alternative.
Just want to say first that I love your videos ❤ Been playing MTG for a long time and the first thing I noticed while deck building with Lorcana is that it was half the price of my MTG deck. Given the fact also the games are similar I won't be giving up MTG altogether but I will be giving it a break for a while
Honestly, all the Disney IP is a pretty huge reason for me not to touch it, and I sort of hope that this will motivate WotC to focus more on their own storytelling.
Sabriel was one of the first novels I ever bought with my own money. Spent my allowance on it back in grade 4 at the school book fair , the cover art sold me. Back when I just started playing magic too. They need to bring that old school art style back, more artists like Rebecca guay .
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Is Elestrals on your radar. It's another new tcg made by a youtuber
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MTG is so popular that deck box manufacturers are going to start making boxes to properly hold our Pringled foils without flattening them.
I'm very interested In this game for multiple reasons. 1) I'd love to be involved with a game from its beginning like how some people were there at the beginning of Magic. 2) I love the villainous series and enjoy Ravensberger as a developer so I support all they do. 3) gotta love Disney lol
warcraft killed itself due to blizzards greed, the only thing that will kill magic is WotC (and they starting on that path so far this year) it is that similar issue both games have time and $$$ invested is hard to overcome unless your tcg is dirt cheap on release and has low monetary needs to get into it it will fail cus people will just go yeah i would rather spend 400$ on commander singles i'm missing
Can't wait for The Professor to start showcasing his Pluto Tribal Pauper decks
Y'know due to an errata you can put Hades from Hercules cards into Pluto tribal decks
Only plebs play Pluto tribal! The true meta is princess movie animal sidekick otk
@@VCV95 Forest Song is nothing more than a gimmick alternate win condition, if you want something more consistent maybe try Pocahontas' Paint With All The Colors strategy
i'm more eager to know about the princess tribal decks.
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I'm really excited for Lorcana for one reason. I have a lot of friends and family that refuse to touch magic cards, but might be willing to play a TCG if its characters they know and love already.
I second this. I feel like it likely will also be simpler than MTG and the complexity is part of why most people I know avoid playing it.
@Lind Morn aghh ahhh your an idiot. Ahhh ahhh. It is Disney you fool. Watch more clownfish and less cnn. Disney collectors will buy this up like Disney world merch.
Being a MTG player since ‘97 (until recently where I find FaB to be a more rewarding experience), I agree that there is a charm that this could bring, and if there is great (not good, it has to be great) game play, then I would be happy to collect and play competitively with this product. This may cut more into the market of those who play SolForge/KeyForge as alternative CC games.
@Lind Morn You realize the game is still half a year out, right? How much of a competitive scene did you expect Lorcana to have right now, when no one even has a deck yet?
the devil's tcg vs mickey's tcg
Nothing can kill Magic except for Magic at this point.
and they seem to be damn well trying
*Glances at magic 30 prices*
Yu-Gi-Oh?
@@walcodebruyn2135 Konami is dumber than WotC so no
They are doing a good job at killing their own game though lol.
Correction. I doubt magic the gathering can kill magic at this point, it's been trying for years now with no success.
Playing Lorcana has been a blast. I like that every card has an effect and none are “just lands”
I started last night. Bought all 3 First Chapter starter decks and played game after game with my son.
It's interesting as hell.
As long as I can build a deck based around Winnie the Pooh, I’m in.
Banned in China, i see.
Dawg! Pigglet tribal deck!!!!
honey token deck.
Blood and honey Winnie the Pooh alternative art. Yes please
Oh, bother
I'm excited for Lorcana because my wife and daughter are excited, and they have never cared about a card game before. I'm hoping this can be a good first step into the world of TCGs for a lot of people who never would've considered it before
@Lind Morn they confirmed on twitter that they are hosting competitive events, so you're wrong.
Things are worth what people will pay for them@@lindmorn5909
@@lindmorn5909 aged like milk.
As someone with a little daughter who loves Disney characters, I feel like this would be a great stepping stone for her into a hobby her dad has loved for many, many years. As well as being thematically friendly for her age.
That's actually a good point. Maybe Lorcana won't take the place of Magic, but be the Magic of the younger generation.
@@xXSamir44Xx Yeah Pokemon used to have that spot but has since fallen into obscurity a little. Yu-Gi-Oh would be kinda in between.
I kind of had the same thought with my nieces. Once they are old enough it would be fun to introduce them to this and teach them the mechanics of card games through Lorcana. An Elsa deck would be my nieces most prized possession lol
That’s a great thought
Anyone who supports Disney needs a long hard look in a mirror...smh
I love that you mentioned digimon. It’s really thriving and while it’ll never counter magic, I hope it establishes a long-lasting community
I wish Mtg would fear Lorecana, they would make a better effort on offering good deals
i mean why worry about a thing that isn't really competing with you? Lorecana is competing with Pokemon more than magic, its competing for children, and old school TV nostalgia. The people that don't like current magic aren't going to like where lorecana is in the next year.
They would make an effort to make more money NOW, thats all
Excellent point. When they control the market they can do what they want and we will be happy
@@altosforteaquax5083 evidence of what? the fact that Pokemon and Disney are both targeted towards Children by Pokemon being aired on a kids network and Disney owning its own kids network? both have been a thing for over 2 decades, so both children and adults have been fans for nearly their whole life. but Pokemon TCG has been around for the last 26 years and still isn't dethroning Magic so like the Prof said people will just collect the cards and not really play them just like with Pokemon, people collect and a tiny % actually play.
@@altosforteaquax5083 following Wizards profit reports the things people complain about the most is what makes them the most money. Disney doesn't care about a card game, they care about money. They are doing this to try to make the most money so it will be either the Pokémon method or Wizards methods. Which clearly isn't going to pull anyone away from Magic. If Disney follows Wizards monetization scheme then it won't be long before Lorcana looks almost exactly like current Magic. And that's if they aren't going to simply follow the secret lair method only.
As someone who's dabbled in MTG over the years but has always felt sort of like they got into the hobby too late, Lorcana looks to be the answer to that issue; being here at the game's inception is far more appealing than sinking a bunch of money and research into an existing and established property. Plus, when it comes to just opening packs, it's going to be a treat to actually recognise and be surprised by cards depicting characters and artefacts that I enjoy. I'll certainly be someone who plays Lorcana as well as collecting it, but it'll also be far easier to open a pack and go "Oh hell yeah, I got Tarzan!" instead of "Oh that artwork is kind of cool, no idea if it's a good card though, let me go home and Google it." Ultimately, I'm the kind of person (especially with a girlfriend who only has a passing interest in tabletop and card games but adores Disney) for whom Lorcana seems the best of both worlds.
i have the exact same feeling tbh
This is me. I’ve always been interested in getting into MGT but with how complex it is and how much money it costs to get set up it’s not worth it for me. Getting in on Lorcana at its inception is a plus.
Why not try Flesh and Blood then? I’ve found it more balanced than MTG style games like Lorcana seems to be. A card game with more modern mechanics I guess
I get that but for me, Magic's rich history means there's always more to learn from others, so I actually to some extent enjoy being late.
Agreed, sometimes sitting down to play games that have been out for decades is overwhelming. Weather it be tcgs or online games it can feel a lot more approachable when your starting fresh. I played yugioh in the early 2000s and when I returned to it a few years ago the dozens of new mechanics has warped gameplay into something almost unrecognizable. The resource management that mana offers in MTG keeps the gameplay feeling similar enough but the numerous different formats that have been released over the years can be really confusing to new players looking for other people to sit down and play with.
10:58 "I love showcase art, and I'm mostly OK with Secret Lair, and with Universe Beyond,... I love showcase art" you cracked me there!
@@altosforteaquax5083 You know I was really interested in the 40k decks they were making but the more I think about it the more I hate this and all the other crossover stuff aside from the D&D sets. At least WOTC can reprint those (they won't, but they can.)
@@altosforteaquax5083 I've heard a lot of people say that and I kind of agree. I like the d20 mechanic, in theory, and AFR has Red Dragon is one of my favorite last minute win cards. But both sets are really low power level wise, especially Baldur's Gate.
@@altosforteaquax5083 Well given I don't even like D&D, I'd never have noticed. He should have been a dual faced Planeswalker like the M19 Nicol Bolas was. Maybe that would have made that card actually playable.
@@altosforteaquax5083 he’s hotter this way
@@trainercoty2757 depends on who you ask
As soon as I heard about lorcana I was excited because I thought it could be a good intro to TCGs for my kids.
We love Disney themed games and I love MTG but it’s a bit complicated for my littles.
I also could see myself collecting the cards as well 😮
I know it might sound strange but one reason to look forward to Lorcana to me would be convincing a somewhat estranged family member to get into TCGs. She's a huge Disney fan, but always hated on MTG even though my siblings and I love to play. She wouldn't even hear us out about why we liked the game, but with this Disney branding, I know she's going to be interested. My hope is that we can mend some family ties and explore this new game together, and maybe someday, she would even let us explain what MTG is really all about.
I get not being interested in, but hate? I mean, i guess it's structured as a trap for kids, which is a good reason to hate on it...but that extends to any tcg in general so i don't think it fixes anything.
Maybe just reconnect with your estranged family member by enjoying Lorcana instead of trying to rope them into MTG.
Sounds like someone you would not want to play with anyway, hate people who blindly hate.
At the rate things're going, by the time Lorcana implodes on itself Disney will be IN MTG, so...
@@Agent_OB we have no clue why they hate on magic, so you shouldn't really speculate...
While Lorcana is not going to replace Magic, Pokemon or Yugioh, it is a stable game. I disagree with prof, Lorcna will be a player first - collector second game. I lave many MtG decks, but have started selling off my magic cards. I already have and playing 4 Lorcana decks at my LGS. The biggest threat to Lorcana would be losing their Disney license, which would be - game over.
What I like about Lorcana is its freshness in deck design, strategies, and am hoping for a competitive format. I am not a collector and only partially care about the fun Disney art on the cards. I am after coming up with new deck strategies and seeing it work in games. I do know Lorcana is selling like hot cakes and that alone will give it some drive.
I agree, many TCG's have come and gone over the years. Riot's online digital tcg, Legends of Runeterra, just bit the dust and while Pokemon is going good, their new online tcg platform is just trash. Lorcana, Flesh and Blood and the slew of new tcg's hitting the market will not topple Magic, Hasbro is capable of doing that in one fell swoop.
I think Lorcana is going to bring more people to Magic. Eventually.
It’ll definitely be a gateway drug
Kids need the first dosis of drug
Meh. There's been tons of pseudo-TCGs aimed at kids for decades now. It's just a way to sell cheap cards for a great price to kids. It doesn't establish new TCGs. All this discussion about the future of Lorcana seems very optimistic to me. Chances are that it's just a passing fad.
Disney is really bad at supporting anything for long period. So the game May end up like Adventure Time TCG or other semi-stand alone card game.
Remember when people thought Yugioh was going to kill Magic? (Despite that the in-universe Duel Monsters that Yugioh's card game was based on was a tribute to / copyright-friendly stand-in for MTG that was largely defictionalized by curious and enthusiastic Magic players themselves...)
1 year later. I have fully switched from MTG to Lorcana after the Lord of the Rings MTG set.
I've introduced 4 people to Lorcana and play with them. They know about MTG but haven't played it.
The MTG group I used to play with has fizzled out.
I usually skip the ad portion but I'm glad I didn't this time because it makes me happy to hear that the Prof is listening to Sabriel. I love that series and I'm surprised it's not more popular.
Garth nix is criminally underrated
Nix’s Keys to the Kingdom series was my jam when I was little, I should check out his other work!
Sabriel is criminally undiscovered. It is so good.
Love Sabriel.
Garth Nix's Old Kingdom series is one of my favorite book series of all time and I was genuinely shocked to hear it come up in the sponsorship. They're amazing dark fantasy books that deserve a lot more exposure.
My fav thing about Lorcana is that it will remove a lot of Secret Lair ips from the pool and hopefully slow that down.
Yes!!!
@Lind Morn many if not most popular IPs are owned by disney.
Kinda a weird way to think about it. 💀 Now I hope they have more just to spite you specifically.
I have no idea why the professor poopoo'd Lorcana.
Everything about its rules seems tailored fit to appeal to him.
Flesh And Blood player here! I also play MTG casually from time to time, either physical or digital. I'm very interested in Lorcana. I really like Disney, and I have kids that are just in the right age when this comes out next year to maybe care about it. I don't see them being into Pokémon a lot, but Lorcana might be something they'll be interested in playing, so that's a main reason for me to check it out. I hope for it to be a fun casual game, I don't see myself getting really compettive in it. Could be fun just for collecting, too.
My thoughts exactly. This is a great way to get my kids who love Disney-related things maybe into my hobbies and eventually into Magic.
Disney as a company is a shell of it's former self. That said, Lorcana will be a big hit with kids and collectors and will probably make quite a few people rich in 2 or so decades from now.
The main designer was on board with Magic way back in Core Set 2011. What I consider a great time to play magic the gathering. Things are not like that now. But with him leading the charge it has me interested in Lorcana to say the least.
With the set now fully released and having watched a lot of gameplay and content with Ryan Miller talking about it I think it could go really well.
I love how Prof threw in that oh so subtle at TappyToeClaws calling her stitch
Well, here we are a year later and my LGS has Friday Night Lorcana and Friday Night Magic. Lorcana tables are always full and bleeding over to tables that used to be MTG.
Good point on the cohesion. It's been growing for a while (especially IMHO with the D&D Showcases) and Lorcana might be the thing to reveal it as an issue.
One year later and things look completely different. I tried out Lorcana with Magic friends and also my wife and all of them loved it. The gameplay, the cards, the prizes, there is only one booster you can pull everything from common to even enchanted, it’s getting reprints a lot so you can afford singles easily and play really strong decks or just buy „older“ sets, because it’s made to be played and having fun, not emptying your wallet, the Illumeneers Quest playing Coop with my wife or alone to test decks is such a bomb, I am totally in love with this game. Magic started killing itself a couple years ago easily, I have a huge list why I would suggest someone picking up Lorcana over Magic.
Rough time to make this comment right before magic just dropped a masterclass of a set
@@christophercastiglione2603 because there are fluffy animals everywhere? And for the rest of the year almost only shit got printed? Yeh amazing WotC
Garth Nix was my favorite writer when I was younger. The Aborshen series (Sabriel) and Shade's Children are amazing books. Glad to see it getting some visibility here on one of my favorite MTG channels!
I use the surname Abhorsen in pretty much every mmo that I play. Fucking wild that Tim Curry did the narration for the audio book I had no idea till now.
Hell yeah, I've gotten some of my students so interested in the Abhorsen series, but finding copies in Korean for them to read has been near impossible. I want to find a copy and digitize it to preserve and share it with them
Art and templating are the first things that draw me to a card game and I think Lorcana is doing great in that regard (though I don’t actually believe the cards look anything like mtg cards). Now I wanna know what the rules are.
I would love to see a 'How to play Lorcana in 15 minutes' video
Not out yet. Probably spring before we see rules/mechanics
These comments have me rolling
You must be excited about the new hat tribal in unfinity😂 (i like the username)
@@adamjoestar2001 wait there is!?!?!
It's gonna be the Collecting aspect for me. Unless the game is extremely well balanced, people are gonna find the best cards in a week, then the prices for those cards will skyrocket (like that one cloak thing from Flesh and Blood that was basically their Black Lotus, except legal in their Standard, so budget decks weren't as competitive)
At least in my area, this has not aged well. At this point in my local LGS each week there is about 40 people playing Lorcana every week, 20 FaB, 20 Yo-gi-Oh, 20 One Piece every two weeks and exactly no more regular Magic players.
To be fair, the sentence "Lorcana cannot unseat Magic" is true as Magic has just completely given up on LGS and enticing new players. So there is nothing to unseat. Magic has just left LGS apart from small FNM in bigger cities.
You must have a lame card shop then because I’ve literally never seen a single person talk about lorcana or play it
@@christophercastiglione2603 My LGS is lame because 9 months ago they played a game that yours did not? A game that at the time globally was the second highest grossing TCG in the world and literally sold out it's first three sets in months?
@@robertwernecke2628 yes
I am excited for Lorcana because Villainous is a good introductory version of Commander for playing with friends and family who don't want to learn things like, "Untap, upkeep, draw." I'm hopeful that Lorcana will be similarly simplified and with those helpful reminder cards, while also being deep and meaningful in its gameplay.
Ok you can't be too meaningful in your gameplay if you remove Untap, Up[keep, Draw just look at Yugioh and how much of a mess that is it makes vintage and legacy in Magic look slow as fuck and i am not even talking about the competitive Yugioh decks
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Yu-gi-oh is messy bc it is just a mess of things. You can simplify phases and steps in Magic by just streamlining without missing much.
@@BlakeFaeMorton sure if you are not playing decks that don't use those mechanics in those steps
What kind of brain dead people do you play games with ?
@@BlakeFaeMorton yugioh was easier to learn for me =/
Watching this a year later seeing how wrong he was about the competitive lorcana scene is funny. Been witnessing more and more tcg players swapping games to play Lorcana.
The best way I would put this is to spend 5 minutes listing every single major TCG that came out in the last 10 years and ask if any of those even put a dent in mtg
Yu-Gi-Oh? Surely
@@walcodebruyn2135 yu gi oh is over 20 years old
Flesh & Blood has become a thing
Hearthstone is about it. Though you can argue, in the case of both paper and digital card games, there is more than enough room in the market for people to play a couple different games without really harming the others.
Digimon, Dragonball and F&B all have healthy playerbases, I expect that same out of the One Piece game launching NA later this year, and no they really haven't. If anything they give the wider TCG community more to do. At my store we'll regularly play Digimon casuals, then hop into a magic draft, maybe play in a commander pod, then hop over to the Dragonball table.
A year later, lorcana has had several massive tournaments, feat casual and sweaty players alike, mtg pro tour guys, FaB pros, etc at every single one, unrivaled prize support, the list goes on. Fnm is all but dead. No game will match magic sales bc look at the amount of product. But one thing we can look at is LGS turnout. Lorcana is stomping mtg in that aspect and i live in an area with 15-20+ game stores. It's the same for all of them
I am getting more and more excited for Lorcana, and aside from wanting to collect pretty Disney cards, I mostly want to see how the "Type/Subtype" lines affect gameplay 🙂 (Dreamborn, Floodborn, etc.).
1 Year after this video: I'm IN. I wanted to start finally playing a TCG but I feel like MTG is just too overly saturated and difficult to just play and go, for a new player. Lorcana on the other hand is like Hearth Stone but easier to follow. And I loved Hearth Stone, but didn't like that they didn't have a paper version of the game.
Either way, I'm interested in Lorcana for the ease of play and that it is Disney. Also, Ravensburger has been doing an AMAZING job on the art ( a la Villainous) but they do need to work on better foil design...
If I was going to build a deck with this I would make an all villian deck the bad guys are always the coolest.
I built one for casual play.
I would have thought the same thing until I picked the game up and had more fun than ever did with magic, also much more welcoming community and easier to bring in family and friends. Surprisingly has the easy to learn with alot of depth style of development. Can't get enough.
Lorcana does have that nostalgia factor of being what I and many other people grew up loving and watching. So for me the collecting of all my childhood favorites and having them as cards sounds amazing
NGL I’m enjoying lorcana more. I just need a little instant speed interaction.
Answers the question right in the title. That's anti-clickbait at its finest.
Loving the art work of this game. I may give it ago on day 1 release if they have intro decks.
I'm a big fan Prof, but I feel like parts of this video are in slightly bad faith. The only people who are referring to Lorcana as a 'Magic Killer' are content creators/articles such as yourself, whilst I feel Ravensburger will probably be happy with taking a share of the market and are probably more focused on the Pokemon crowd than the Magic one. I do agree that the downfall of Lorcana will come from it's collectability drying up availability before it's actual target audience even sees it on the shelf... I can only hope that this is preempted and we see supplies flood Targets/Walmarts early on. Whilst Ravensburger have announced a 'robust Organised Play program', I won't hold my breath and instead just hope that this game actually gets into the hands of the families and kids that it's aimed at.
I agree with this 100%. The "MTG killer game" seems to be much more of a "gotcha" label than the reality of the situation.
What?! TCC engaging in Click Bait titles?!
The only people I've seen call this a Magic killer are shitposters with a negative IQ.
There is nothing more stunning in modern day fantasy art than a really well done full on borderless magic card imo.
Wait till Disney artists try.
I’m interested in seeing how Lorcana is played so hope it does well
I remember watching this nearly two years ago and thinking, "yeah, Prof is right! Theres no way a new game would kill off mtg!"
And here i am, two years later, jumping off of mtg and getting into Lorcana, searching for Lorcana vids. Mtg may have killed itself, so prof might be mostly correct, but the whole situation makes me laugh
I'm interested in hopefully using it as a gateway drug to get my kids into TCG games. We'll have to see how heavy the game is rules-wise, hopefully it's not overly complicated on release!
MTG player/pin collector/CM here, I'm hoping this game is something I can play with my co workers/friends who are not into mtg. When I was working at D23 the foil versions of these initial cards sold out so fast. I could only get my hands on the promo mickey card. It looks like a fun lighthearted game, and I'm excited for my mouse overload to throw his hat into the ring.
The prof is underestimating how much overlap there is with Disney and MTG - I was at D23 as well and got the collector's set from their booth. I also collect pins and other things. This definitive "no it's not going to be anything to worry about" attitude is hubris to say the least.
I get the exact same vibe from Lorcana - Disney saw the explosion of collector markets in the TCG space and decided it wanted in. That's almost certainly what pushed Booster Fun/Secret Lair in the WOTC halls - and I'd even go so far as to theorize they got word this game was coming that helped push Universes Beyond out to us before it was fully cooked (see: Walking Dead)
I can almost guarantee that Lorcana had nothing to do with push to Universes Beyond, especially Walking Dead.
I think it is probably exactly the opposite of this: Hasbro approached Disney about licensing Star Wars and Marvel IP for Universes Beyond, and the Mouse decided it would make more dollars and cents to get in on the game itself.
@@bobbyhanson346 That was what I thought was most likely.
ive been playing MTG pretty much all my life. very heavily invested in modern for the past 6ish years... I got to play Lorcana a couple of weeks ago and i think ill start migrating to that game entirely. I dont think lorcana will kill MTG, no one is... but it sure is fun and a fresh breath of air... some MTG pros like frank karsten, and guillerme wafotapa been having fun playing lorcana as well!
Really curious to see how Lorcana plays. Hoping it will be a lighter version of MTG with just enough depth to make it engaging. I can see myself having fun collecting and playing Lorcana, if the gameplay ends up being decent.
@@lindmorn5909 lol
I'm definitely curious enough to at least learn how to play. Not likely to really pick it up though. In the 25+ years I've been playing Magic, Arkham Horror LCG is the only game that has captivated me like magic has.
I am really looking forward to Lorcana! Am a big big Disnerd though, and play magic! If the game is at least as good as Villainous, then I am hopeful!
I definitely wasn't expecting a 'Ship of Theseus' comparison to Magic: The Gathering and the Secret Lair/alternate printings. Really made me think.
The guffaw I let out when you said Tappy Toe Claws 🤣
I Never even thought about lorcana could kill magic, but I think every form of competition is good for us as players right?
10:00 completely agree here. I kinda got disconnected with mtg recently because for me it doesn´t feel like MTG anymore. I also mistook those Lorcana cards as a new Secret Lair or something. Now, i am only an on and off mtg player because there is just too much. Too much lore, too many sets, too many planes and every time i stop playing for a few months, it´s getting harder and harder to get back in on the fun. I´m actually looking forward to Lorcana as i really like the design and it´s a fresh start to TCG, yet there is already a rich lore which i grew up with as a kid.
What format or formats do you play? I've not been happy with a lot of stuff that WotC has done, but the game still feels like Magic to me, at least the Modern and Pioneer formats do. Commander is the part of Magic that doesn't feel right to me.
My son recently got into MTG by attending a local library program. He was immediately in love with it and he got me hooked too. I'm excited about the Disney Lorcana game because it may also get my wife and daughter into a card game. It would be amazing if my whole family could get into it and maybe even transition into MTG afterward.
Maybe you'll transition into Lorcana
Depending on the cost, and if the rules are complicated, I'm looking forward to Lorcana. I know my daughter would love it, and it may actually get my wife into a TCG
This is the first i hear about Lorcana. I must say the cards displayed makes me curious and makes me wanna collect them. As you say I probably won't be playing with 'em but the fact that they seem to be fun to play with and have the oldschool Disney art tickles my inner collector. I think you're right though - they are probably gonna be more of a collectable than to see much play. Time will tell.
Just like a famouse World of Warcraft King once said: No King rules forever.
I do think there will be a day where MTG gets dethroned as the biggest card game in the market, but it’s not today or even remotely close. That said, Wotc should be careful not to grow complacent.
I do think Disneys attempt at a card game is strong just because it has universal appeal for the most part. The trick is how they handle organized play. That has me really concerned.
I think recently weve seen a bunch of good card games come into the market and I think Lorecana will just become another one of those games that are played at times, but nothing to challenge the big 3.
Randomly watching this video a year later I don’t think it’s correct. I played Pokemon and Magic and have sold and moved everything over to Lorcana.
Lorcana has imo the best deck building out there. You can pickup any cards and make a deck.
My kids and wife who didn’t play Pokemon or Magic before now play Lorcana. We play this daily now and we all love it.
The best thing also is you can play with 3+ easilily
I think Lorcana will have its own spot and don’t think it will kill Pokemon or Magic
I thought it was understood that only Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh! And Magic had a big space in the market and big events and all other games had their niche communities but not much else. I give them two or three years to make their small space or go the way that many other card games have gone before.
Oh boy were you wrong about Lorcana. I am playing Lorcana myself and have not met a single person so far who only collects. Lorcana has grown very fast and there are a good amount of tournaments already.
I'm pretty excited for the TCG in general- Ravensburger puts out some quality products in Villainous and they understand key terms very well.
The thing about Lorcana is it fills a niche to play with people that aren’t into MTG. You can teach someone to play in 10-15 mins and have a blast. It’s an easy TCG to learn but a really hard game to master. I don’t think it could ever replace MTG which is a far superior TCG but Lorcana is also brand new. The only thing I dislike about Lorcana is it’s a Disney product, but if it gets friends and family to play a TCG around the dining room table I’m sold.
I'm excited for Lorcana as a game to play with my daughter who is about to turn 6. I want to get her into MTG eventually, but I think some of the themes are too scary for her right now. I think she would be on board for a Disney characters game. She liked the look of the Elsa and "Tappy Toe Claws" cards when I showed them to her. She is also slightly interested in Pokemon, so I could pick that up again. I just wish I still had my old cards for it.
Hey there now that the third set is out you should make a video on it and share gameplay thoughts!
I'm very excited for Lorcana! Very curious what the things they came up with to distinguish themselves from other popular TCGs are.
Yeah I do hope they do something interesting, cuz currently (which it's not fair to judge yet obviously), it seems very uninspired, but who knows maybe it's mechanically a lot more interesting than it looks
As a Magic player for nearly 5 months now, I *JUST* started getting into Lorcana. My LGS has a weekly Lorcana night and this summer my sister (a fellow Disney adult) and I are planning on attending those nights to learn how to play the game properly. For now, we have just played some very casual games with each other and gotten excited over our pulls from the booster packs.
Not going to lie, the deja vu that Prof. inserted around 5:30 to 6:30 made my genuinely confused and made me question the very reality around me for a moment :D well done, Prof.
Prof, you can play Ariel, King Triton in your Merfolk Deck.
Cursed Merfolk
Forbidden Treasure
I'm super excited about Lorcana. I'm not like super into disney but it is nostalgic. Mostly I'm super interested to see another well backed player enter the space and maybe we'll get an interesting game out of it. That way next time I want a magic break, I can fire up some Lorcana.
Professor, you bring up a great point about how modern MTG cards can look drastically different from eachother now. That's somthing I respect about Yu-Gi-Oh is it doesn't matter if you're looking at a card from the first western released YGO set to their most recent set the aesthetic and card design is identical and instantly recognizable.
thinking about revisiting this?
I collect Disney pins and I am a MTG player. I am not so certain that there isn't an overlap. There are definitely going to be cards that I will want to collect, yes, but I'm also really excited by the previews for the game mechanics. There also looks to be lots of room for variations and release blocks. I can see blocks based around the Disney Parks, Disney SEA, live action movies like Pirates of the Caribbean and Jungle Cruise, TV shows like Rescue Rangers and Duck Tales... the bench is deep. As long as the mechanics are solid and they add more along the way, I would love to play this.
Lorcana has the same energy as McDonald's including Bionicle trading cards back in like 2001
I'd love to see a retrospective from the Prof on this video a few months from now. Lorcana's only 6 weeks out, but despite supply issues, they seem to be meeting, if not exceeding, MTG numbers in terms of OP. Stores that get 20 people for MTG are getting 50-60 for Lorcana, and that's for *league* play. There's also already been multiple 1K events as well.
You focus way too much on debunking Lorcana as a Magic-killer and not enough on the actual exciting aspect of the game: its potential to expand the hobby.
interested in Lorcana to just get my siblings into TCGs. I like that Lorcana feels more playable and transferrable into other TCGs like MTG
If Disney wants this to work. It’s going to work.
YES! A Sabriel shoutout. The old kingdom trilogy is so underrated in fantasy.
I tap my Millennium Falcon to put Han Solo into play.
Han Solo's keyword ability "transport" is activated allowing me to search my library for 2 protagonists and put them into play. I choose Ariel and Mulan.
Now I transform Ariel to her human form which triggers Mulan's keyword ability "avalanche" to destroy your entire field.
This gives me 1 "Snow-covered Villain Token".
Now I pay this token as a cost to play the instant "Infinity Snap" which allows me to rewrite reality and turn any villain I control to another of my choosing.
I choose the Legendary Thanos.
Once Thanos is in play I gain 6 infinity stones, I then use all 6 to deal 4 damage per stone to you for 24 damage in total.
You lose.
Great talk Professor. I like how many times "Flesh and Blood" was mentioned in this video.
I admit I am curious about Lorcana but a lot of that is the visuals on the cards. I dont really collect physical cards much anymore regardless, so I would hope for a digital version.
As a long time subscriber I can't help but hear the distain for Disney in your voice. I do believe your right on a several points. No this won't affect MTG, F&B, or even Yugi (which you didn't mention in the whole video). I feel their target consumer is the pokemon style player. Like you said Lorcana's consumers will be most likely 75% collector and 25% player. The game will be much like Pokémon where the game is simple but you can find depth if you look hard enough.
I've always loved Disney and their IPs now with star wars and marvel they have a huge selection to dig into. I also enjoy Ravensburger board games. They have some fun titles like Jaws and one based on classic movie monsters. I don't think the player who want deep mechanics and a seriously competitive play will switch from MTG to Lorcana. Lor won't scratch that itch, but a family that has younger children and has gaming teens ot parents will get into this as a way to bring hobbies and families together. That's my hope for this game.
I’m actually very hype for Lorcana. I’m sure there will be kingdom hearts character cards so it’s compulsory for me to play. 😅
I doubt it. The original KH characters are owned by Square Enix. That's why it was such a hassle and wait to get Sora into Smash after all these years.
Plus FF already has a CCG that I'm quite surprised still exists.
@@breeze7464 everywhere i see it says disney owns sora.
@@AshyCat then you're not really looking. The director of Smash even explained this fact during Sora's reveal. 🙄🤦
@@Chiffonaise no they don't. If this was true, why did they remove the KH original characters from the stained glass backgrounds in the KH stage from their originals from the game itself? If Disney owned Sora, why didn't they add him into smash years ago with all these years of them screaming for it? I swear, I don't understand why you people talk about shit you clearly have no knowledge on as if it's fact...
The Prof will love a Little Mermaid tribal deck.
I am very interested in Lorcana, it heavily reminds me of the card game that was in the Magic Kingdome pre Pandemic. I would collect yes, but also try out the play.
Lorcana could do a crossover card batch with MtG and vice-versa to increase friendship between the two games. I liked when Duel Masters and MtG did that, even if I don't think Jace or Bolas was ever really a hit in DM.
Can't recommend Digimon highly enough. I found it thanks to your video, and for me, it is my new favorite TCG.
The point about art and world being a big point is very true. I myself just got into magic because of the Necron crossover deck, and I love it because the art and mechanics of the cards imo perfectly capture that Warhammer Necron feel.
Im getting some singles of Lorcana for neat art for characters I love. Kingdom Hearts is one of my favorite games, and I grew up on Disney, So this is another collectors item for me.
I have a feeling that this will be for some kids, and MILLENIALS who love disney. My niece and my best friend's daughter love disney and the latter wants to learn magic, this may be an alternative.
Just want to say first that I love your videos ❤ Been playing MTG for a long time and the first thing I noticed while deck building with Lorcana is that it was half the price of my MTG deck. Given the fact also the games are similar I won't be giving up MTG altogether but I will be giving it a break for a while
Honestly, all the Disney IP is a pretty huge reason for me not to touch it, and I sort of hope that this will motivate WotC to focus more on their own storytelling.
Right on!!!!
Sabriel was one of the first novels I ever bought with my own money. Spent my allowance on it back in grade 4 at the school book fair , the cover art sold me. Back when I just started playing magic too. They need to bring that old school art style back, more artists like Rebecca guay .
Spoiler in the title of the video? Bold strategy, Mister Professor
editing medieval manuscripts for my phd. one of the often referenced council members is "von Ravensburg" ... from now on I will always smile when appears