Feel sorry for Carissa putting hard work all year and losing it all in the matter of two heats. Consistency should be the key factor in crowning our champions.
I said it once and I'll say it again! This format sucks!!! Carissa should be a 7 time World Champ!!! What's the point of surfing all year just to lose it in two heats? That's why there's a season! You prove your worth in all types of waves over the entire year!!!
Kelly wouldnt have 11 titles if it was this format, but when an american is winning nothing has to change....since the brazilian storm started winning they decided to change the format to give everyone else a second chance on a single day to win it all.
@@rksnote9635 lol what? this has nothing to do with Brazilians. if anything, it's a free world title for them on the men's side every single year. Brazilian surfers love the conditions at Trestles, they are highly favored against surfers who grew up surfing Pipeline or point breaks.
@@89gauna How is it free if they have to surf AGAIN after wrapping up the points total. LIke I said, Kelly didnt have to have a surf off with Andy at the end of the year.
Well done for CM’s win on the day - but what a farce when the third highest regular season point scorer wins the World Championship in rubbish surf. WSL needs a serious re think if it wants to stay relevant!
CM was the superior surfer on this day and really did a great job surfing better than CM. CM really shoulda surfed better than CM. But CM would not allow it. CM surfs so good. CM really dominated but CM is actually the better overall surfer. CM surfed so good. CM surfed good to. I’m so thankful to see a CM vs CM matchup. And CM is superior to CM. Good Job CM! You are the best surfer named CM!
Absolutely this set up is the worst, Great Athletes consistent throughout the whole years!!! Get cancelled, wtf, so shitty now season picking in Novice waves with NO energy sucks!!!
“WSL world champion” has lost all meaning over the past 2 years. Carissa is a 7X world champ. Comparing the current “champs” to those who won through a season of accumulated points makes no sense. WSL has lost all credibility!
Right why would I ask an professional athlete put in the time & work evidence, by points & world titles even an Olympic winner, be part of a terribly unjust system. In One day you could have a great moment in surfing doesn't mean anything to me, big deal!! & ur a Champion that hasn't really earned it shit!!! No WSL long way to go.
Note to WSL: Put the scores up after the surfer finishes the wave. I want to feel like I’m watching it real time, have an opinion about it first. Love the condensed match ups though!
Kelly wouldnt have 11 titles if it was this format, but when an american is winning nothing has to change....since the brazilian storm started winning they decided to change the format to give everyone else a second chance on a single day to win it all.
Shame on you WSL for letting The Queen of women's surfing down yesterday... This new format is really bad for professional surfing. Defiantly keep Lowers as a event because it is the best wave in Cali but for gods sake bring back the old format and Final to Pipe already....You guys have dropped the ball for way to long now... We love you Carissa , time to make some babies and enjoy life a bit more! Fuck professional surfing in its current state!
@@josephwiard6695are you kidding me she has several thousand points more than Mark’s! but I guess you can’t do math. Fair and square, this format sucks.
It’s so apparent they’re trying to tell fans what they should like by having guest commentators like mick fanning say they like it. I think they getting paid off to say that and they know the old format is better
What did I hear from one of these announcers - Caroline Marks might just have the best backhand on both the men's and women's side? That's a bit of a stretch mate...
WSL’s format sucks. Why even work your ass off to be points leader so you someone with less points and surfs like crap most of the year can win the whole thing in one contest. BS. WSL you have lost a fan.
WSL is more like the WWE these days. Fake concocted contest at 2-3 foot wind blown Californian crap. Commentators talking up their favourites. Carissa should feel totally let down by an amateur hour organisation. ISP/ASP/WSL was ran best when Rabbit was in charge. Carissa could never win if an extra point is always given to a backhand turn compared a forehand top turn which can never be as vertical but looks better and is actually harder to execute. Real serious issues with overall judging in 2023.
Shame on the judges, the entire WSL, and even the commentators for such shit displayed that day. Unbelievable. We had no choice but to let last years robbery slide but twice in a row is just absolute disrespect.
WSL's shitty finals format. Nothing to do with a whole year of tournaments in different conditions that really make a champion. But they think surfing is basketball or soccer
Well you gta be the top ranked surfer throughout the season and beyond the mid year cut to make it to the final 5 so it’s not a terrible format. The main point I have contention with is the venue. Surfing should always decide world titles at heavy sized pipeline.
@@waltjisneychannel74 it doesn't matter which venue they pick for the finals, it will always be unfair. the world tour has a bunch of different waves ranging from small beach breaks over point breaks to heavy tubes. the best surfer of the year will be someone who is excellent at one or more of these types of waves and at least "good enough" at the others. the top 5 will always be a mix of surfers with different skill sets and whatever venue you pick, some surfers will be heavily favored. and that's exactly why we don't need this finals bullshit. when Pipeline was still the final event, I stayed up long here in EU to watch it all, because it was that exciting. yesterday, I barely watched even with the timezone being much more EU friendly.
A Brazilian who feel really bad for Carissa, WSL look what you done with her the two past C T years. Is there someone that actually has a brain and know how to use it. Is just not fair and right, Caroline was in the zone surfing great. Carissa was the best during all year, finish over or not much less 10.000 ahead, past year she did for sure. You people are breaking her soul, soon one after other will be walking away. Better come up with a handful of good changes, G Land and other left good break a different format. If you decide stick with this lousy format WSL will be gone real soon
World Title *. * competitors cut half way through the season Worst waves of all time Title decided in head high spilling rights over a handful of heats.
For the last two years Carrisa has been the overall number 1 women`s surfer in all condions and for historic records should have two more world titles. Morre :7, Gilmore :7, Beachly:7. World title is for the best surfer for the year in all conditions not who has the best kick flip at Tresles.
utter horseshit out of there mouths for years now. if Marks was in a mens heats on their scales her 7's would be 3's. and they women would agree. You can see how embarassed they are sometimes in interviews
The phenomenon of which you speak of is something that might sound crazy but it’s called “interchangeable” when the words are called something different but the meaning remains the same 🎉
MENUDO ROBO!! No entiendo el criterio de los jueces al puntuar la olas de una y de otra surfer...a lo mejor competir en casa tiene su recompensa...lamentable!!
Best surfer won hands down been coming for age s for all to see new school are better in all areas no complaints you're kidding yourself .yes Moore had good run good surfer just the same old wont cut it Gilmore did well to peg another one back just believe there's wy better surfers on the way .just be happy this school taking sport to nxt level for the ladys .only thing is missing is Lakeys power house..
You have ruined your own format for reasons that no-one can fathom. You have denied the greatest female surfer on the planet 2 World Titles. And you have lost all credibility in doing so... You're an organisation in absolute crisis, and I strongly advise that you return to the superior and perfect previous format with immediate effect.
At the end of the day all 5 finalists have the chance to win. But you know this already. If Caity won she would have deserved it just as any of the ladies. Thats surfing ,its Carolines day.
Ocean conditions change every minute, how many times did JJF lose because no wave came in the last 5 mins of a heat. It takes the whole season and different locations to prove the consistency and talent of a surfer. This is not the super bowl where the 50yard line is in the same place on any field.
Talk about a one trick pony-don’t even compare Marks to Occy……how dare U‼️‼️‼️She deserved the win because Moore sucked and chocked on this WORLD TITLE HEATS…….same hunch back approach….ahhhh c-mon girls and add variety.The first girl to add airs to their surfing will be unstoppable…..just look at Toledo.✅🎬
These cameramen suck! For such big events it’s like watching a super edited tv with more commercials and yammering than what we want to see!! Not a fan of this format! Best performance throughout the year not on one day should determine a champion
Feel sorry for Carissa putting hard work all year and losing it all in the matter of two heats. Consistency should be the key factor in crowning our champions.
Fucked over by the final 5 bullshit two years in a row
I really don't understand why they change the format...wsl is dead
It’s ok she choked in the finals and got beat by a better surfer in the finals 🤙
@@davidgodoy826 Caroline has 0 World Tour titles and 1 "Finals day" titles.
Carissa beat Caroline in a much heavier wave than Trestles. Caroline is good, but not better or more consistent than Carissa @@davidgodoy826
Great format Carissa dominated in all breaks and some crappy wave decides a world champion that had a couple good heats lol
WSL crowned the best Trestles surfer again and they call them "world champion".
She choked when it matter the most and lost in the finals, to a better surfer in the finals 😊
@@josephwiard6695 One trick pony
Kelly has 11 world Tour titles and 0 "Finals day at Tressels" titles. Caroline has 0 World Tour titles and 1 "Finals day" titles.
Slater won at Pipe and Trestles….a TRUE WORLD CHAMP✅👍🏽🤙🏽
I said it once and I'll say it again! This format sucks!!! Carissa should be a 7 time World Champ!!! What's the point of surfing all year just to lose it in two heats? That's why there's a season! You prove your worth in all types of waves over the entire year!!!
Kelly wouldnt have 11 titles if it was this format, but when an american is winning nothing has to change....since the brazilian storm started winning they decided to change the format to give everyone else a second chance on a single day to win it all.
@@rksnote9635 lol what? this has nothing to do with Brazilians. if anything, it's a free world title for them on the men's side every single year. Brazilian surfers love the conditions at Trestles, they are highly favored against surfers who grew up surfing Pipeline or point breaks.
@@89gauna How is it free if they have to surf AGAIN after wrapping up the points total. LIke I said, Kelly didnt have to have a surf off with Andy at the end of the year.
Exactly! Well said.
CMoore 🏆🥇
Well done for CM’s win on the day - but what a farce when the third highest regular season point scorer wins the World Championship in rubbish surf. WSL needs a serious re think if it wants to stay relevant!
CM was the superior surfer on this day and really did a great job surfing better than CM. CM really shoulda surfed better than CM. But CM would not allow it. CM surfs so good. CM really dominated but CM is actually the better overall surfer. CM surfed so good. CM surfed good to. I’m so thankful to see a CM vs CM matchup. And CM is superior to CM. Good Job CM! You are the best surfer named CM!
@@waltjisneychannel74 Hardy Har
The dumbest way to decide who is world champ. Carissa soooo consistent thru the last 2 years gets nothing again. No wonder I hate the wsl now.
Absolutely this set up is the worst, Great Athletes consistent throughout the whole years!!! Get cancelled, wtf, so shitty now season picking in Novice waves with NO energy sucks!!!
World championship decided by one day in a long season again... i feel bad for carissa 😢 not sure this format and finally makes sense.
“WSL world champion” has lost all meaning over the past 2 years. Carissa is a 7X world champ. Comparing the current “champs” to those who won through a season of accumulated points makes no sense. WSL has lost all credibility!
Yep and a so called champion that’s scared shitless at teahupo is not a world champion
Well said. Totally agree. It’s a disgrace to surfing.
Right why would I ask an professional athlete put in the time & work evidence, by points & world titles even an Olympic winner, be part of a terribly unjust system. In One day you could have a great moment in surfing doesn't mean anything to me, big deal!! & ur a Champion that hasn't really earned it shit!!! No WSL long way to go.
Note to WSL: Put the scores up after the surfer finishes the wave. I want to feel like I’m watching it real time, have an opinion about it first. Love the condensed match ups though!
Carissa dominated all year, loses at stupid lowers….lame
Kelly wouldnt have 11 titles if it was this format, but when an american is winning nothing has to change....since the brazilian storm started winning they decided to change the format to give everyone else a second chance on a single day to win it all.
People hate the final 5 WSL. listen to your audience get rid of it.
Shame on you WSL for letting The Queen of women's surfing down yesterday... This new format is really bad for professional surfing. Defiantly keep Lowers as a event because it is the best wave in Cali but for gods sake bring back the old format and Final to Pipe already....You guys have dropped the ball for way to long now... We love you Carissa , time to make some babies and enjoy life a bit more! Fuck professional surfing in its current state!
@@josephwiard6695are you kidding me she has several thousand points more than Mark’s! but I guess you can’t do math. Fair and square, this format sucks.
The old format was way better when the lower ranked surfers could upset the title in the early heats ,especially at pipe.
It’s so apparent they’re trying to tell fans what they should like by having guest commentators like mick fanning say they like it. I think they getting paid off to say that and they know the old format is better
FELICIDADES CAROLINE TU NO TIENES LA CULPA DE QUE LA WSL LE HAYA ROBADO DOS CAMPEONATOS A CARISSA
What did I hear from one of these announcers - Caroline Marks might just have the best backhand on both the men's and women's side? That's a bit of a stretch mate...
WSL’s format sucks. Why even work your ass off to be points leader so you someone with less points and surfs like crap most of the year can win the whole thing in one contest. BS. WSL you have lost a fan.
Robbed
Her last wave was over scored actually
WSL is more like the WWE these days. Fake concocted contest at 2-3 foot wind blown Californian crap. Commentators talking up their favourites. Carissa should feel totally let down by an amateur hour organisation. ISP/ASP/WSL was ran best when Rabbit was in charge. Carissa could never win if an extra point is always given to a backhand turn compared a forehand top turn which can never be as vertical but looks better and is actually harder to execute. Real serious issues with overall judging in 2023.
Shame on the judges, the entire WSL, and even the commentators for such shit displayed that day. Unbelievable. We had no choice but to let last years robbery slide but twice in a row is just absolute disrespect.
WSL's shitty finals format. Nothing to do with a whole year of tournaments in different conditions that really make a champion. But they think surfing is basketball or soccer
Well you gta be the top ranked surfer throughout the season and beyond the mid year cut to make it to the final 5 so it’s not a terrible format. The main point I have contention with is the venue. Surfing should always decide world titles at heavy sized pipeline.
@@waltjisneychannel74 it doesn't matter which venue they pick for the finals, it will always be unfair. the world tour has a bunch of different waves ranging from small beach breaks over point breaks to heavy tubes. the best surfer of the year will be someone who is excellent at one or more of these types of waves and at least "good enough" at the others. the top 5 will always be a mix of surfers with different skill sets and whatever venue you pick, some surfers will be heavily favored. and that's exactly why we don't need this finals bullshit. when Pipeline was still the final event, I stayed up long here in EU to watch it all, because it was that exciting. yesterday, I barely watched even with the timezone being much more EU friendly.
Congrats to CM but this final format is the worst ever. WSL sucks
A Brazilian who feel really bad for Carissa, WSL look what you done with her the two past C T years. Is there someone that actually has a brain and know how to use it. Is just not fair and right, Caroline was in the zone surfing great. Carissa was the best during all year, finish over or not much less 10.000 ahead, past year she did for sure. You people are breaking her soul, soon one after other will be walking away. Better come up with a handful of good changes, G Land and other left good break a different format. If you decide stick with this lousy format WSL will be gone real soon
Woot woot!!!
so happy for Caroline Marks!!
World Title *.
* competitors cut half way through the season
Worst waves of all time
Title decided in head high spilling rights over a handful of heats.
A fan of both of these surfers but really thought Caroline deserved the win
deserved to be world champ after finishing the season 3rd and then having heats to get in rhythm will Riss has to come in cold!
Deserved the win for the day, but not the world title. The format is bogus.
Marks…… same move every time
Carissa …. Much more variety & style
Marks is a one move wonder, as style goes she looks like a drunk elephant. Does not deserve the title!
fake champ.
For the last two years Carrisa has been the overall number 1 women`s surfer in all condions and for historic records should have two more world titles. Morre :7, Gilmore :7, Beachly:7. World title is for the best surfer for the year in all conditions not who has the best kick flip at Tresles.
Men and women sure are equal in sports
Champion!
Caroline has the best backhand in women’s and MENS surfing😳🤣 Mitch Salazar is now the new hype man for WSL losing all credibility with that comment!
All the commentators are on the WSL payroll they know what happens if they go off script...
That’s the only move she has and has as much style as a drunk elephant.
utter horseshit out of there mouths for years now. if Marks was in a mens heats on their scales her 7's would be 3's. and they women would agree. You can see how embarassed they are sometimes in interviews
What is fore hand back hand!? Frontside and back side.
The phenomenon of which you speak of is something that might sound crazy but it’s called “interchangeable” when the words are called something different but the meaning remains the same 🎉
did they speed this up
This new format just doesn’t feel right.
Yes go Florida champ congratulations 🤙✊🌺🏄♂️🧜♀️🌺
MENUDO ROBO!!
No entiendo el criterio de los jueces al puntuar la olas de una y de otra surfer...a lo mejor competir en casa tiene su recompensa...lamentable!!
Go Caroline!!!!!
Na minha humilde opinião a Tatiana weston-webb deveria assistir todas as baterias da Caroline Marks, e aprende um pouco.
Florida for the win. Shark Queen.
Best surfer won hands down been coming for age s for all to see new school are better in all areas no complaints you're kidding yourself .yes Moore had good run good surfer just the same old wont cut it Gilmore did well to peg another one back just believe there's wy better surfers on the way .just be happy this school taking sport to nxt level for the ladys .only thing is missing is Lakeys power house..
Hasta que se le juzga parejo a un goofy y se le hace justicia , caroline dando catedra THE BEST
Epic win 💪
Incrível
Time to reset the game plan ladies
You have ruined your own format for reasons that no-one can fathom. You have denied the greatest female surfer on the planet 2 World Titles. And you have lost all credibility in doing so...
You're an organisation in absolute crisis, and I strongly advise that you return to the superior and perfect previous format with immediate effect.
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
WSL just sucks now.
🏄♀️🤙🏆 Caroline Marks 😁
Sucks
At the end of the day all 5 finalists have the chance to win.
But you know this already.
If Caity won she would have deserved it just as any of the ladies.
Thats surfing ,its Carolines day.
Ocean conditions change every minute, how many times did JJF lose because no wave came in the last 5 mins of a heat. It takes the whole season and different locations to prove the consistency and talent of a surfer. This is not the super bowl where the 50yard line is in the same place on any field.
That’s the problem. It was Caroline’s day, yes. But it was Carissa’s year. She’s the true world champ.
Talk about a one trick pony-don’t even compare Marks to Occy……how dare U‼️‼️‼️She deserved the win because Moore sucked and chocked on this WORLD TITLE HEATS…….same hunch back approach….ahhhh c-mon girls and add variety.The first girl to add airs to their surfing will be unstoppable…..just look at Toledo.✅🎬
The judges favored Caroline AND THAT BEACH SUCKS DA WAVES next Northshore oahu pipeline
These cameramen suck! For such big events it’s like watching a super edited tv with more commercials and yammering than what we want to see!! Not a fan of this format! Best performance throughout the year not on one day should determine a champion