BMW N55 vs S55: Which One is Better?

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  • @Dustrunnersauto
    @Dustrunnersauto  3 роки тому +8

    If you guys enjoyed the video, please SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON. It helps the channel out a huge amount and helps UA-cam put the video in front of more people. Thanks for watching 😬

  • @1989BMWPOWER
    @1989BMWPOWER 3 роки тому +26

    You should do an BMW 6 cylinder generations video.
    M30,M88,M20,M50,M52,M54,N52,N53,N54,N55,B58,S38,S50,S52,S54,S55,S58.These engines are the finest when it comes to straight sixes and there is plenty of technical stuff to discuss.Waiting for your next video.Continue the great work.

  • @anderayson5597
    @anderayson5597 Рік тому +17

    Nice explanation video. What I am missing here is the special N55 version in the F87 M2 pre Comp which uses parts from the S55 such as crankshaft, pistons, oil pump etc.

    • @conte4967
      @conte4967 5 місяців тому +1

      where did you hear about this? i'm trying to figure out if base m2 is still a good buy

    • @Maqqzy
      @Maqqzy 4 місяці тому

      @@conte4967 I went for the OG M2 and I can tell you that its the more fun car. M2c is faster yes but the OG M2 is more fun when you buy a manual

  • @qna95B
    @qna95B 3 роки тому +28

    should talk about he m2 n55, its the most refined of the n55 versions,
    and it is lighter than the s55

    • @bella_testastretta
      @bella_testastretta 2 роки тому

      whats the difference between the N55 in M2 and M235i?

    • @4MyTube4Ever
      @4MyTube4Ever 2 роки тому +2

      @@bella_testastretta forged parts,and other stuff was also upgraded so it has healthy 370+hp.. ;)

    • @bobbybooshay5854
      @bobbybooshay5854 2 роки тому

      Is the n55 in the m2 reliable? Does it have any inherent issues?

    • @gedam131
      @gedam131 Рік тому +1

      @@bobbybooshay5854 very reliable, boostpipe is only big issue to fail. Fuel pump isn’t the best aswell as the intercooler which is too small for track. Overal it’s a solid engine. Do remember the N55 found in the M2 has the M4 pistons aswell.

    • @fnafplayer6447
      @fnafplayer6447 6 місяців тому

      It doesn't have closed deck

  • @anthonydelatore9477
    @anthonydelatore9477 2 роки тому +6

    BMW used true twin set up on the S55 bc it moves more air and can keep power and torque higher in the RPM range bc of it. Twinscrolls are more efficient, effective, and have way better throttle response, nd spool up. Twinscrolls tend to fall off in the higher rpm unless it is a larger twinscroll turbo like the one on the B58, which is why stock turbo B58s can make impressive numbers. A lot of single turbo kits like CES and couple other companies put a single twinscroll turbo on the N54.

  • @reuelmundie7
    @reuelmundie7 3 роки тому +47

    Please do the N55 vs B58

    • @Wicked_RotF30
      @Wicked_RotF30 Рік тому +5

      N55 is just as good and sound better. B58 is overrated.

    • @huntergardlin8137
      @huntergardlin8137 Рік тому +3

      @@Wicked_RotF30 why do you say that? The b58 is a great engine too. Much better platform for tuning I think

    • @Aaron-ge8sf
      @Aaron-ge8sf Рік тому +1

      @@huntergardlin8137 b58 is less rare

    • @Wicked_RotF30
      @Wicked_RotF30 Рік тому +1

      @@huntergardlin8137 some tuning companies beg to differ😏

    • @huntergardlin8137
      @huntergardlin8137 Рік тому +1

      @@Wicked_RotF30 who? Lol

  • @anthonyt4981
    @anthonyt4981 3 роки тому +16

    I like how you used s58 animations haha

    • @mitchdaytonam3
      @mitchdaytonam3 7 місяців тому

      Some of the animations were 4 cylinders as well. 🤣

  • @PointShiftDrive
    @PointShiftDrive 3 роки тому +11

    im surprised you didnt mention the crank hub issues of the S55. I have a M2C and I know this is its Achilles heel

    • @richinfeels
      @richinfeels 3 роки тому

      Ive heard about that, do you think youll be ok if youre aware not to downshift to hard or too early?

    • @mushy1983123
      @mushy1983123 3 роки тому +1

      @@richinfeels hard to say most people's hub spins due to down shift I've heard afew spin from 1st to 2nd gear shifts... I've just ordered a crank hub bolt capture kit just incase hub spins I'd rather have timing out rather then need a new engine eventually ill get crankhub upgrade

    • @t.c904
      @t.c904 3 роки тому

      Nothing about that. For sure the S55 is the stronger engine. But I think the N55 is more reliable. My 135i Stage 2 N55 2011 has no issue the last 50tkm.

    • @Saiyan585
      @Saiyan585 2 роки тому

      Easy fix.

    • @fless760
      @fless760 Рік тому

      I have my crank hub upgraded so not an issue for me… if you’re committed and have the money than the s55 is the way to go.

  • @the_little_car_project
    @the_little_car_project 3 роки тому +2

    Can you make a new one comparing the S55 with the S58?

  • @Wicked_RotF30
    @Wicked_RotF30 2 роки тому +4

    However, if you added most of the upgrades from the s55 to the n55, it would make plenty of power and likely will do it reliably.

    • @puresyre2051
      @puresyre2051 2 місяці тому

      for that might as well get a s55 crate , swaping over the stuff is more expensive

  • @davidt.6415
    @davidt.6415 3 роки тому +8

    Wonderful episode! You should do an episode on the m60/62 family and the s62

  • @cgberz
    @cgberz 3 роки тому +3

    Can we get a US S52, M54, N52 comparison video? Three-ish different gens...

  • @PerfectRotation
    @PerfectRotation 3 роки тому +4

    I don't think you can compare the motors without mentioning the S55's crank hub issue. It's a pretty big problem with the motor.

    • @CaptainCarling
      @CaptainCarling 2 роки тому +3

      No it isn't, it's a problem that happens to very few and has been blown out of proportion

    • @PerfectRotation
      @PerfectRotation 2 роки тому +2

      @@CaptainCarling I know 5 cars that have had crank failures. That's a lot

    • @CaptainCarling
      @CaptainCarling 2 роки тому +2

      @@PerfectRotation 5? Wow that is a lot 😂

    • @bobbybooshay5854
      @bobbybooshay5854 2 роки тому

      @@PerfectRotation were they stock or modded?

    • @gord6695
      @gord6695 Рік тому

      @@PerfectRotation totally made that number up. Stock. They have 0 problems

  • @efthimios
    @efthimios 3 роки тому

    As a 2011 335 xdrive msport owner have 75k miles and very happy

  • @nate9114
    @nate9114 3 роки тому +2

    there are multiple variants of both engines too.

    • @fnafplayer6447
      @fnafplayer6447 6 місяців тому

      IK there is the f87 but what else of s55 varieties are there

  • @邹凯文-l1t
    @邹凯文-l1t 3 роки тому +1

    please do an episode of Mercedes m177(ls1,ls2)and m178.

  • @garymurphy5133
    @garymurphy5133 2 роки тому +1

    Is the N55 the only engine fitted in the m2? also does this suffer from rod bearing issues like many other M models

    • @billymania11
      @billymania11 Рік тому +2

      No, it has S55 bearings. It's not well known but it has iron liners as well. Its a track version of the N55. (I have one.)

  • @gtiguy727
    @gtiguy727 Рік тому

    No info on the crankshaft and rods??? Forged??

  • @tedmalmgren3464
    @tedmalmgren3464 3 роки тому +3

    I got both
    There’s very big differences in how the engine sounds and behave

    • @jt7937
      @jt7937 2 роки тому +1

      What's your view on either motor and do you have a preference? Also what models are they in?

    • @tedmalmgren3464
      @tedmalmgren3464 2 роки тому

      @@jt7937 I bought my M4 ‘15 in October. Before that I had the 435i with M performance power and sound kit 340hp (in Europe)
      The 435 was amazingly fast and it felt like it had more power than it had.
      The M4 has a shit load of torque, and it sounds more like a deep sound. Many don’t like that sound, but I love it. You don’t have to rave the engine so much it just hit of from low numbers.

    • @Anthony-qh1xv
      @Anthony-qh1xv 2 роки тому

      Which is better? which is more reliable? Thank you!!

    • @tedmalmgren3464
      @tedmalmgren3464 2 роки тому +1

      @@Anthony-qh1xv
      N55 is more simple, with fewer parts and less hp. But S55 is not overheating when on track. So I’d say N55 if you don’t race your car and S55 if you do.

    • @Anthony-qh1xv
      @Anthony-qh1xv 2 роки тому +1

      @@tedmalmgren3464 Well, That really works out, because I have an N55B30M0 in my F26 X4.
      Thank you!
      Also, if that M4 is yours in the picture, it is really beautiful! The M4 is my dream car! I love the sound of the S55.
      How does it feel to drive?

  • @klstrucker930419
    @klstrucker930419 Рік тому

    Is there any data comparing weight of the S55 including all auxiliaries (turbos, intercooling) to N55? M2Comp is heavier than the regular one, but some of the difference is down to particle filter (at least in europe).

  • @strictlyvicious
    @strictlyvicious 3 місяці тому

    so i can use a s55 block on my n55 head right ?

  • @BCG415
    @BCG415 2 роки тому

    So you can’t use a mechanical water pump on an N55 due to the cooling ducts on the crankcase?

  • @diditiu3988
    @diditiu3988 6 місяців тому

    Hi there nice vid by the way. I just want to ask and since I have a 2021 M2 competition, I decided to change the downpipes, the pipes going towards the back is from eisennman race with no exhaust just a straight pipe with no blockage whatsoever, then I change charge pipes, the crank hub and have the ECU tuned, thats it. Now my question is do I need to change my OEM intercooler to a CSF or any aftermarket dual pass charge air cooler? and I dont track this car but just drive it daily and drive it spiritedly and fast. Hope to hear from you the soonest.
    Reply

  • @christopherblake6695
    @christopherblake6695 3 роки тому +1

    Hey dust runners, can you do a video on the EJ20 vs the EJ25. For example their different head configurations, sti, AVCS etc. and all the aftermarket variables in between. 2.1, 2.3, 2.7 etc etc.. would love it cheers. 👍

  • @fishymk7558
    @fishymk7558 2 роки тому +6

    You also forgot to mention that the M2 N55 has the rods and pistons from the S55

    • @MrBonderd
      @MrBonderd 2 роки тому +1

      It just has the pistons. The rods and crank are m235i internals. Those were forged

    • @fishymk7558
      @fishymk7558 2 роки тому

      @@MrBonderd you’re right the m2 n55 has the s55 crank bearing, s55 pistons and s55 oil sump.

  • @DriftKr6l
    @DriftKr6l 3 роки тому +3

    You did leave out a pretty major difference, S55s crank hub issues which the N55 had non of

    • @CaptainCarling
      @CaptainCarling 2 роки тому +2

      You mean the issue that happens to around 1 in every 10000 cars lol

    • @VictorEstrada
      @VictorEstrada 2 роки тому

      N55 does have that issue, but you only see it on high power

  • @TheFlaco1978
    @TheFlaco1978 8 місяців тому

    Are the engine mounts the same?

  • @hillarytshabalala8354
    @hillarytshabalala8354 Рік тому

    Does the s55 engine fit in a 320 f30 ?

  • @Steven-xj2rf
    @Steven-xj2rf 2 роки тому +1

    The problem with the E90 M3 was the E90 with N54 could easily make more power cheaper. They corrected it with the F80.

    • @RandomGuy-ej9gr
      @RandomGuy-ej9gr 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah but the sound alone of that v8 in the m3 made up for it

  • @wesbuck339
    @wesbuck339 3 роки тому +3

    Great Video! Would really like to more content on the M2C and the drivetrains. Not many channels are doing it.

  • @s11smk87
    @s11smk87 3 роки тому

    Will the S55 parts fit on to the N55?

  • @yachtkuza
    @yachtkuza 3 роки тому +1

    Any chance on reviewing the M113 and M113K?

  • @philamor5139
    @philamor5139 3 роки тому

    great vid man

  • @amropanmotorsport6417
    @amropanmotorsport6417 2 роки тому

    Could you do a S62 vs S65?

  • @UltimateBimmerSVC
    @UltimateBimmerSVC 2 роки тому

    Production costs would be the best guess here for the N55 having a single turbo.

    • @anthonydelatore9477
      @anthonydelatore9477 2 роки тому

      BMW used true twin set up on the S55 bc it moves more air and can keep power and torque higher in the RPM range bc of it. Twinscrolls are more efficient, effective, and have way better throttle response, nd spool up. Twinscrolls tend to fall off in the higher rpm unless it is a larger twinscroll turbo like the one on the B58, which is why stock turbo B58s can make impressive numbers. A lot of single turbo kits like CES and couple other companies put a single twinscroll turbo on the N54.

  • @enochzheng8372
    @enochzheng8372 2 роки тому

    is forged better than casted?

  • @Top_g80comp
    @Top_g80comp 3 роки тому

    Fantastic video as usual 💯🤘🏻

  • @vrtuned4246
    @vrtuned4246 3 роки тому +1

    Video was amazing!

  • @IPL_VIC
    @IPL_VIC Рік тому

    S55 vs b58 please

  • @richiesworld1
    @richiesworld1 3 роки тому +3

    Man didn't mention the almighty Barra once, in that intro. 😡🤬

  • @GodKing804
    @GodKing804 2 роки тому +1

    S55 Using 2 HPFP one the cams turns out why they are likely to spin their hub vs an n55
    Major drawback

  • @mk23mod08
    @mk23mod08 3 роки тому +1

    Does the 2016-2017 N55 M2 engine have forged internals?

    • @danielsantiago9142
      @danielsantiago9142 3 роки тому +2

      Yes it does

    • @CaptainCarling
      @CaptainCarling 2 роки тому

      Another vid I watched says the n55 has a forged crank and rods but not pistons, where the s55 has all three

    • @Mursounderground
      @Mursounderground 2 роки тому

      @mk23mod0 the N55 shares 75% similarities with the s55 engine, the N55 has forged crankshaft and rods.
      It has cast pistons but uprated stronger ones.
      It is a good engine and reliable.
      The s55 on the other hand is the engine to have.

    • @Mursounderground
      @Mursounderground 2 роки тому

      @@CaptainCarling the S55 hasn’t got forged pistons, just stronger cat iron pistons.
      Forged crank and rods yes.

    • @paulmeduri4451
      @paulmeduri4451 2 роки тому +1

      Bmw m2 n55 and s55 have same pistons and forged

  • @danilorodriguez4665
    @danilorodriguez4665 3 роки тому

    Very good and informative video, cheers

  • @romeo00132008
    @romeo00132008 Рік тому

    Injector cooling. … I have it on my semi tractor with ISX 15.. this truck is from 2012… so technology does exist.
    And honestly this tech caused more trouble then good on my engine…

  • @juliogonzalez7500
    @juliogonzalez7500 2 роки тому

    Any one knows of any honest mechanic shop in the Goodyear AZ are where I can take my BMW

  • @NoCompM2
    @NoCompM2 3 роки тому

    Very well explained. Thank you

  • @christopherroper9566
    @christopherroper9566 3 роки тому +1

    S55 FTW!

  • @cassianobispo9431
    @cassianobispo9431 Рік тому

    B48 is a 4 cylinder engine sir 🤔

  • @seeitfrommyhouse5816
    @seeitfrommyhouse5816 3 роки тому +1

    1.) 2002 Turbo , 2.) m102, 3.) m106 (745i turbo) 4.) n54, is the fourth mass produced turbo BMW

  • @HOTPLATEGAMING
    @HOTPLATEGAMING 3 роки тому +8

    B58
    HOLD MY BEER

    • @rayland9305
      @rayland9305 2 роки тому

      All the youtubers with B58's say no.... they're all hype. Rip: Kies 340 times 2, Nocluthgarage, Thicwhips, 1stockf30...

    • @gord6695
      @gord6695 Рік тому +1

      S55 stock for stock is better. S55 vs b58 stage 1 is better by a long shot. S55 vs b58 is better by a long shot. A s55 on stock internals with bigger turbos can hold 800 bhp on stock internals. RIP b58 poor mans s58 lol

    • @fless760
      @fless760 Рік тому

      @@gord6695this man is spitting facts…

  • @f87
    @f87 Рік тому

    Didn’t watch this but assume that N55 Apex is better all around engine.

  • @MrMightyZ
    @MrMightyZ 3 роки тому

    If you have a very big, heavy boat with a powerful winch you will want to use whichever motor is heaviest. If your boat is smaller and has a smaller, less powerful winch then the lighter motor will make the better anchor. Both are good boat anchors though.

    • @ChristopherGuilday
      @ChristopherGuilday 2 роки тому +2

      Bro these are cars, not boats. Wrong video. This ain’t your dad’s challenger.

    • @MrMightyZ
      @MrMightyZ 2 роки тому

      @@ChristopherGuilday Dude my "funny joke" is that they're both only good as anchors.

  • @KimboDogg07
    @KimboDogg07 2 роки тому

    I can’t believe you didn’t speak anything on the DCT …

    • @whakatane7339
      @whakatane7339 Рік тому +1

      I can’t believe u did not see the title. Is that the transmission discussing here?

    • @KimboDogg07
      @KimboDogg07 Рік тому

      @@whakatane7339 dude you can’t talk about the S55 and N55 engine with discussion the dual clutch transmission on the S55, it’s a key part to car… Stop being a angry troll cause I made a simple observation comment…

  • @bg-se7rq
    @bg-se7rq 3 роки тому +1

    🍎 🍊.. s55 v s58 plz

  • @brightmdrum9561
    @brightmdrum9561 Рік тому

    B, 48 it's a 4 cylinder

  • @RTXRetroGo
    @RTXRetroGo Рік тому +1

    The N54 is best and you know it

  • @rosun_official
    @rosun_official 2 роки тому

    He meant the B58* not the B48

  • @toomuchsauce4442
    @toomuchsauce4442 Рік тому

    The b48 ? You mean 58 the 48 is garbage

  • @lutfullahkarahanli
    @lutfullahkarahanli 3 роки тому +1

    Its called singel twin scroll turbo, basically a twin turbo in a turbo 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @joshdominguez341
    @joshdominguez341 3 роки тому

    They knew a twin turbo set up better

  • @anthonyb2990
    @anthonyb2990 10 місяців тому

    S55 only produces 30 more hp over the M2 N55.. the better street car (99% of buyers) is obvious

  • @jimcockburn4652
    @jimcockburn4652 3 роки тому +2

    1,000gm = 1kg

  • @ethersecure2432
    @ethersecure2432 3 роки тому +1

    So same engine, same shitty reliability? Lol

    • @carboydorifutoparty3976
      @carboydorifutoparty3976 3 роки тому +1

      Some similarities here and there but no. S55 is closed deck with twin turbos and some other parts while the N55 is open and is single turbo. There are other differences but the S55 is looking alot more reliable than the N55 is.

    • @qna95B
      @qna95B 3 роки тому +4

      @carboy wrong and wrong, there is a word that s55 ppl rather not talk about
      crankhub
      and n55 has proven to be wayy more reliable than s55, (its a bit of glass cannon)

    • @n.prince2458
      @n.prince2458 3 роки тому +3

      Not true. The N55 M engine is currently, the most reliable modern BMW engine.
      Never had one engine issue to date.

    • @sirwilliam0722
      @sirwilliam0722 3 роки тому +1

      @@carboydorifutoparty3976 close/open deck makes much less difference than you think in term of ‘reliability’. Unless you are looking over 700whp.

    • @CaptainCarling
      @CaptainCarling 2 роки тому +1

      I'll take the stronger block all day ;-)