The History of the BMW M3's Engine
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- Part of making an amazing car for decades and throughout multiple iterations is using a great engine. Afterall, the engine is the heart and soul of the car. It's what propels it forwards. Let's take a look at every BMW M3 engine ever, starting with the E30 and going all the way up to the current G80 M3.
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - S14 E30
3:56 - S50 E36
6:21 - S54 E46
9:08 - S65 E9x
11:35 - S55 F80
14:17 - S58 G80
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Bruh you read my mind with this content! Best of the best🤤
M5 next the m3 an m5 go hand in hand for generations
Loved this video, can you do a video for the BMW M5 as well? would love to see the history on it and know more about its current S63 V8 and its previous engines like the V10
Toyota didn’t develop the B58…it was basically all BMW.
The B58 was around before the bmw /Toyota partnership
Having owned a S54, tuned N54 and a tuned S55, I’d take the S65.
The B58 existed before the Supra and I’d bet Toyota had much less input in the engine then stated here.
b58 started life as b57 block from diesel.
I am almost 99% sure that toyota's only design input was a small change on the timing chain design. Good thing they did, too, as the b48 is the same engine with 2 cylinders cut off, and uses the timing system from bmw instead. b48's got issues out the ass with the bmw timing chain assembly, which the b58 does not. Some argue this is due to the balance, or some other factor, but I believe toyota knows some mythical secrets about timing chain setup....
I never get tired of calling that car the BMW Supra 😂
I love my s65. The sound is like nothing else.
Toyota had no hand in the design of the engine. They came to my plant in hams hall. To see how the b48 and b58 engines are built and to see if it meets all new iso standards as not many engines from other companies are. Its from simple things like work flow and right first time when machining parts. To success in right first time completed engines. It just means bmw have high quality. They would also look at reliability data from the test cells of the plant where we hammer and stress the engine to the maximum to see just how much it can take. Sometimes engine are ran for days on end with changing rpm values.
The P60B40 is my favorite M3 engine, that 4.0L V8 out of the M3 GTR with straight cut gears sounds amazing.
Simply amazing motor and car
Me too
Pretty sure its just s85 with 2 less cylinder.
@@aaronmcconkey1062 That would be the S65B40. P60B40 is just the race car engine for the BMW M3 GTR and the BMW M3 GTR road car.
@@aaronmcconkey1062it’s the s62s variant
S54 hands down. NA high revs and throttle response for the win! Great video.
Try living with one; they're incredible until you get to rod bearing, cam follower and Vanos failures 😪
I’ve heard that. I had an 04 for 5 years. Zero issues but I admit, long term ownership would be challenging.
I’ve owned 3 generation’s of M3’s, a e36, an e46, and an e90. I would say all three had things that could and would go wrong. That being said, the e36 was the most reliable but also didn’t really feel “special” in any way, shape or form. The e46 was the most expensive to own, I had to do the subframe, Vanos, and rod bearings to mention the routine valve adjustment every 12-15k. The e90 was amazing as well, I did throttle body actuators and rod bearings but both were as preventative maintenance things.
All in all, I would say the e46 was and still is my favorite! Perfectly balanced with just the right amount of power to match the handling and breaking. It was just so damn unreliable!
The Honda Civic of V8s
Same because that’s what I daily
S65 hands down I test drive one and it’s a car that will leave a smile on my face it’s a perfect amount of power to have fun. If you ever get a chance to drive one once take it. You won’t regret it
Idk if I drove the wrong one.. I bought a f30 328 not knowing anything by about cars saw a sports mode got into cars did some research learned of a m3 test drove the the v8 NA and was absolutely disappointed on paper 414 hp 298 torque I thought it was gonna be moving absolutely not sounds fun looks good but not the car to go fast also it died during the test drive on me lol but nonetheless if done right seems like it could be a fun car
@@Jakejacobsonn 298 torque, you just said it. Rev it out next time, it’s not like a turbo car with high torque at low rpm. This is a Motorsport engine designed for precise throttle response and linear power & torque all the way to redline, unlike a small turbo engine which provide a strong initial shove then torque tapers off.
I own a 08 S65 … beautiful!
Agreed, test drove M2's and M4 comps when looking for a new car, they're way faster, but significantly less exciting than the S65 in the e92
@@lozzaolivier3001 I got told that after I drove it lol wish I got to truly drive it more now after learning more about them!
I love my e92 with the s65. I don't understand how anyone could dislike that car or engine
Mate it's my dream car! Amazing v8! Here cost around 35-45.000€ unfortunately I can't buy it because its costs and taxes are too much for my income. maybe one day I can! Now I have a toyota corolla Tsport with 2zzge 200hp 1.800cc.😁
@@DimoS...Keep grinding, Sir. I've been where you're at but now I own an E92. If I can buy my attainable dream car, you can as well. It just takes time. Keep getting up in the morning and it will happen.
I hope you have a great day, Friend.
@@AverageBeausOutdoor you are right my friend, thank you very much I really appreciate it, be well and enjoy your beast💪
I've currently got an F82 with the S55. One thing I love about it is how refined and sporty it is. Its like no other car i've drove. It absolutely makes you in charge. Its so customizable and versatile, not to mention, pretty easy to work on (for an M motor). This is not me saying its the best M-Motor to ever exist but it is actually incredibly reliable and never gives up. Its got a ton of cardio. It begs to be floored.
0:00 intro
0:45 s14 e30
3:56 s50 e36
6:21 s54 e46
9:08 s65 e9x
11:35 s55 f80
14:17 s58 g80
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Done. Thank you!
@@Dustrunnersauto Please, make a video on the M5's engines
Great video. I have an E46 M3 and a E92 M3. As much as i love the simplicity of the S54, I love the raw power and sound of the S65.
I have a 2011 M3 I agree. Previous and future generations are probably more desirable by enthusiasts but that sound and power delivery unmistakable. I’m just a random dude so I will never sale mine.
@@SDG-cv4br Team 2011 M3 ftw! It's still just the most fun I've ever had on 4 wheels and I can't see ever parting with it. Mine's 109k (finally broken in!) and just had it into the dealer because the oil's gotten too expensive to make it worth doing myself anymore. Every head absolutely turns when it rumbles up doing nothing but idling (although she constantly begs you to redline her). Nothing against the other M's, but S65 is my perfect fit.
which is more reliable guys?
The e46 m3 or e92 m3 ???
E92's, Assemble!!! We must make the world sound great!
My favourite M car is definitely the E46. That why I own one! I’ve driven all but the E30 (way out of my price range anyway).
The E46 is the perfect car, old school but still modern, 50-50 weight balance, light, the perfect amount of power, instant throttle response, very linear powerband and a very unique sound. But I have to admit, I almost bought the 92, purely for that GLORIOUS sound. But the 10 year old kid with the photo of the E46 CSL on the wall came through.
21 years old, own my dream car. I am blessed.
E92 is my attainable dream car and I'm fortunate enough to own one. E46 is a wonderful choice and if it weren't for the V8, E46 it would have been.
Congratulations on owning your dream car. I know that it's a wonderful feeling.
Enjoy your day Friend. I hope it's a great one.
@@AverageBeausOutdoor they are both amazing cars and you can’t go wrong with either. All down to what you prefer!
It’s an incredible feeling isn’t it! I hope you enjoy your E92 the same way I enjoy mine!
Nostalgia factor is massive here.
Clearly the best engine is the S58 if it continues to impress with its power output and reliability.
great review of M3 motors...E46 M3 owner here and the 8,000 RPM S54 is still awesome
S58 are already exceeding 700WHP with mods pretty consistently lol they’re hitting the 600-650 mark with really just tune and fuel
Keep up the good work!!! I really love the topics you've been covering lately!
Wow massive amount of information. Love it. Thank you.
This video is incredible. Would love to see one on the M5
Great vid bro. Been waiting for something like this for years. S65 🥰
such a good video, so glad you made this, you make some of the best BMW videos, all factual & detailed information unlike most UA-cam’s that try and do these videos
Awesome video! Thank you!!
A e92 competition would be a dream
I have a 2011 m3 with a competition package that is in mint condition and I think it's the most amazing car ever. This is my 4th BMW and, by far, the best!
Are you rich
Great video. Thanks 🍻
Had an M54, N54, just sold my N55 and now in an S55 💪🏼😈 Best engines ever man, nothin like bmw Torque
That V8 M3 will definitely be a collectors item
S55, S65 for me. I love the look for both of those generations. I quite like the S58 also, there is so much potential with tuning, it's getting crazy, & the grill on the car itself is pretty good looking seeing it first hand.
Great video. There have been some fantastic turbocharged engines down the years but for noise and throttle response you can't beat a high revving naturally aspirated engine and BMW have produced some brilliant ones.
Awesome video 💯
Your content is worthy of more attention. 👍
We need a dedicated S54 video bradda
The first iteration of a inline 6 turbo petrol engine was found in the (e23) 7 series model from 1977-1986.
The engine was based on the m30 inline 6 engine from 1968-1995 it had a cast bottem end ,aluminum cylinder head ,forged crankshaft and rocker operrated single overhead camshaft 2 valves per cylinder.
Re-named m103-m106 it produced 258hp in both variants the m106 had an incresed capacity to 3.4l but ran lower boost pressure 6psi instead of 9psi.
Great walkthrough except the US S50 and S52 are not detuned euro motors. They are tuned up versions of the M50 and M52 found in the 325i and 328i respectively.
I was hoping he'd talk about the M52, since that's what's in the car I'm driving currently haha
What a good video, I will give it a like
I am a BMW geek! This was a great video! Thank you I have the X3M I am liking the S58. Stock performance is insane I am imagine 700 hp.
Great tour
S65 is the best imo. E9x generation has the perfect mix of just enough technology to feel modern, but raw enough to still have some DNA from its predecessors.
Exactly! I just bought an 08. There’s just no way I’m driving around in an old car like the e46. It’s interior is just too archaic and so is the exterior. My 08 e92 with the ceramic white and black cf roof shits all over 99% of the cars on the road including the newer 3 series as well. The black interior on e92 is ass actually but when you make it fox red, the b/r contrast just takes it to another level. Truly a marvel. Every e9x owner should get a contrasting paint or else the old leather really shows. Everyone I know is flabbergasted when I tell them it’s an 08. Phew what a beast.
Well said! The exact thing I've been saying for years. 2006ish - 2013ish were the absolute best years for drivers cars. I'm still rocking the Mk5 GTI as my daily and an E92 ///M3 for special occasions LoL. Both 2008 by coincidence.
Have a great day, Friends.
The american S50 wasn't just a slight detuned engine. It was a completely diferent one. The head its totally diferent. I was fortunate enough to own a e36 euro M3 3.0 and that engine is epic. 86x86 square setup it just keeps on giving.
Yup.. not only no throttle body 6x it's was for selling them cheaper in 5-8k and then countny..
The S65 that V8 sound is mind blowing
Class is back in session😁
Just got an S58 in my new G80! Haven’t taken delivery yet but I already know I’m going to love it.
S55 for me! I have an F82 Comp and I absolutely love it.
The E30 S14 brings back so many memories of the UK racing scene in the 80s 👍
S65 aside from the regular maintenance like rod bearings it’s a solid v8. Sounds amazing with the right exhaust
Rod bearings is regular maintenance? nvm I see what you did there...
Just have the rod bearings changed? What's the big deal? I mean, a car collection isn't cheap LoL! I've got a BMW shop close to me anyway.
I hope you have a great day Friend.
Enjoy whatever you drive.
In December I drove my 05 bmw 325i from Florida to California, 3500 miles, it's got about 180,000 miles now
The S65 E90 M3 Coupe. I got to test drive that car and that car and engine is what made me fall in love with BMW
s65 for me. Love the sound.
Will you do one for the M5 as well? Great video!
s55, cause I own an f80... great video!
I have a 2004 BMW M3 E 46 coupe , simply beast
S54 all day long, I've driven the B58 and S58, it makes such great power and is very smooth, but it lacks so much character, over-engineered in the wrong sense. The S65 would be my favorite if not for all of the complications of developing a bespoke engine derived from another fairly bespoke engine and the reliability issues it suffers even with good maintenance. I finally reached my goal and bought an E46 M3 with the S54 and it just puts a smile on my face to drive. There's a reason BMW sold over 85,000 of them!
For me inline six that's what I wanted .
The S50B30 engine M3 is my favourite , lest issue and easy to maintain it .
How ever big power engine M3 that over 300 horses doesn't impress me , what I want is enjoy the ride and easy to drive .
S65 is the pinnacle of M engines before forced induction ruined everything. Honorable mention for the M88/S38.
Having owned a few E-30's with M-10 engines, I will have to go with the first.
I've got an s50b30 in my E30. It's great fun. Not too much but great fun.
Having owned the S14, S50, S54 and S65, the 65 wins hands down. It's worthy of the Metzger GT3 flat 6. Amazing engine. Worth changing the rod bearings every 100.000Km !
Hey, love the videos, do you think you could make a video comparing some of the bmw v8’s??
Very good, but the S54 does not have forged pistons , just “simple” high compression cast aluminum pistons .
Can you make an n54 block bore it and and everything from the s54? Or just go after market for the rest?
For me S54 and S65. I will work my ass of to get both of them, I really hate to have choose between them.
I wish I could have them all however I am perfectly content with my E46 s-54 that's enough power for me in my daily needs.
I have 4 s54 cars. Love them can’t get away from the lol. 2006 m3, 2002 m3 swapped sedan, 2003 m3 swapped wagon, 2002 m3 swapped wagon drift car
tell me your rich with out telling me your rich
@@ricky_ricardo i got it all a few years ago when everything wasnt insanely expensive haha
Great video man, very informative and easy to watch! I will say that a couple main difference about the n55 vs my engine is that the s55 has ITBs (independent throttle bodies), two sets of turbos instead of a scroll, and the aluminum bits that make the engine lighter over all. It also possesses a lighter carbon fiber driveshaft to the n55s regular one, and a lighter magnesium crankshaft over the n55s. Overall its a stripped down/built n55 with two sets of turbos which is why the s55 f87 m2s are much more sought after than the n55 equipped models. Looking forward to more vids
The S55 does not have ITBs. The last BMW M engine to have ITBs from the factory was the S65 and ITBs were a common trait shared across most naturally aspired BMW M engines of yore.
@@e90m3lci Curious, I was led to believe even the m4 had ITBs. I cant find any proof that the s55 only used valvetronics except for a wiki article and a youtube vid online which didnt even state that it doesnt have it....Do you have more solid proof?
Technically speaking valvetronic takes care of the throttle body business on modern BMW engines, since air flow to each cylinder is controlled by the valve lift on each cylinder. But its not as good a system as ITBs and I would be bummed if that is actually true.
But my original point was that the n55 has a far less sophisticated version of this system than the m4 has, in either case. While they share similar components the motors behave night and day different.
Crankshaft is the same in m2 n55
S55 engines only have one throttle body on the beginning of the intake manifold after the j pipe. I've taken a few apart
@@paulmeduri4451 In the m2 n55, not the regular one in the 335i/435i
S65 all day long, that engine is incredible.
Love my E46 S54.. I have two LSB and one is a tuned FD making 600 WHP on ethanol 🥱
S52B32 tbh. S50b32 would be nice too. No rasp , sounds fantastic and perfect power band. And the E36 M3 is my favorite chassis for M.
I gravitate to the S54 engine. The model year 2,000 was responsible for getting my attention and putting myself to notice BMW.
Can you do a video on the TDI
You missed the S54B32HP. Different intake cam shaft, exhaust cam, with increased bhp over standard S54. Fitted in the E46 CSL.
still the best m engine ever by long time and awards and how storng the bottom is and how well the head flows is s38b36 or s38b38
s65 is everything the s54 is but insanely better lol, higher redline, more cylinders, more power, more throttle bodies, better sound no rasp. Both are great engines but when you have a choice the answer is clear.
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Nah I’d still rather take the S54, it has a wayy better intake sound. S65 is just meh
@@mxnny_r5002 s65 has more throttle bodies than a s54.... s65 both in my opinion and factually has a better intake sound!!! Again both engines have crazyyyyy characteristics which make them both so good!
The rasp is wath make the s54 sound so good.
@@ibefast it’s got nothing to do with how many throttle bodies, it just has a better sound. Regardless it’s not factual this shits all opinion based so it’s whatever you like
My m3 e46 2003 convertible as done 180.000 miles. No money spent on the engine. Only replaced the alternator. Original chain, starter
rod bearings and injectors of the s55 resolved in the s58 so likely the new one is fantastic
I'd love to drive the s65 so I could compare the feel to the s54. Currently, the s54 is my favorite but I'd say I'm a bit biased as that's what I own. I also wish to drive the euro e36 M3 to compare to the s54. I bet it's closer in performance (stock vs stock) than most e46 M3 owners would like to admit; weight difference being a key factor there.
S65 with it being NA and high revving. It’s all about that experience that they will never create again!
no mention of valvetronic? great variable valve lift system.
Damn I have a 135i with an n55 too! Just upgraded my LPFP, next is the turbo 😎
I think the us spec s52b32/b30 gets a bad rap. Yes it don’t get the added power of the euro motors. But it also doesn’t get the added unreliability, or more specifically added maintenance. The us motors only have single vanos rather than dual, the rod bearings are not super tight so they don’t need to be replaced like most m engines, s54 still had the rod bearing replacement requirements. The s52 is just a simpler more reliable engine. Mine has 165,000 miles and is used exclusively at the track. It makes 240 whp and doesn’t skip a beat. Also e36 is a great bargain for a track car. Super reliable, easy handling, just a great front engine rear wheel drive car to put tons of track miles without a lot of maintenance.
S14 because that was derived of the most legendary engine BMW ever made, and that is the most powerful engine ever made. The predecessor of the s14 a 1500cc version used in the formula one and made almost 1500hp with a big turbo that is :-) Perhaps you should make a video of the bmw m10 and all its versions. Because what bmw is today started with that engine. Cheers
i still love my n54 i just did a fully forged build
The S54 is my favourite engine of them all.
But about the B58 you mentioned,Toyota had nothing to do with it's developement.
It's an 100% BMW engine.
And of course continue your good work!
Toyota tested the parts out, the engine had to past their standards..... Toyota wasn't going to just let BMW put the B58 in their Supra like that.
@@borla4491 so dude is right...toyota had nothing to do with development
@@borla4491 Toyota had no hand in the development. They simply used the existing, lower power version that was already in use by bmw since 2015 in 40i cars.
@@ChesMejia The B58 in the Supra is NOT the same as the ones that are in BMWs.
There are three different types of B58s, the one in the Supra is not the 1st generation B58.
@@borla4491 Its still a B58. And the one in the Supra is not unique. The 2020 Supra used a B58C/B58M1, same as in 840i BMWs introduced in 2018. 2021+ Supras use the identical B58D (TU), which were in 40i BMWs since 2019 & 2020 depending on model, and LCI.
Don't get me wrong, Toyota can build great engines on their own (with the help of Yamaha) but the B58 is not one of them.
Im a Toyota fan from the 90s. I had several Supras and Celicas, while Im now looking to add an SW20 MR2 to that list. Im definitely not hating on Toyota, their history, and their capability to still engineer and build excellent cars. (LFA against anybody. GR Yaris & Corolla) For me, the credit goes where its due. Toyota tuned the Supra their way, but the B58 credit goes to bmw, just like the GR86 Flat 4 is all Subaru. Maybe thats why Im more interested in the new Z.
My favorite M3 engine has to be the one in the E46 M3 CSL... 370Nm from 3246cc is downright impressive.
Yes! God it’s so sexy. If you can get your hands on a real CSL you’ve found a lottery ticket
The S50B30US and S52B32 by far is my favourite , easy to maintain and run with low octane compare to Euro spec.
Easy to maintain sure. But it requires premium fuel just like the s50b30/b32.
Love my S52B32...sounds way better than the S54.
S52 ftw!!! but then I am biased.Reliable and sounds great.Yes, I know it's not as fancy as the S54 but no spun bearings and best off all none of that metallic nastiness that is the sound of the S54.
I've raced quite a few S54 powered M3s and other M coupe's and my mildly modded S52 is their equal up to about 120-140 kph.
Anyhoo...Go S52!!!
Got to go with s54 because own one the revs are out off this world engine of the 3 year straight
S58 if you want insane Power
S55 if you want power on a budget
S65 if you want sound and speed doesn’t really matter.
I’ve owned all of the above and so far… S65 is the only one sitting in my garage ATM. Will buy another F82 soon though. M4 GTS are cool cars.
I had an 04 m3. I sold it in 2017 and bought a 2011 335is. The N54 is the most satisfying sounding and feeling engine I've ever drove. I have full bolt-ons and a stage 2 tune on. Plenty of torque low down and doesn't die off until about 6800 rpms. Loved my e46 but it felt like you didn't have any power under 5k rpm. I'm wanting to buy either a 98 328is 5spd or an 04 330ci ZHP soon if any of you guys are selling lol.
Dude I have 2007 335i 6 speed manual you know twin turbo dark grey tinted glass needs a coil or two few little things like that I’ll sell it man
Get an LSD for true driving prowess
I really love the 335is, it’s actually fuckin sick, my friend had one and it’s a really amazing platform
You have to wind it up to make it move but amongst the NA motors, it's S65 for me.
the craziest thing to me is that a BMW M5 is a bargain now compared to current Nissan GT-R R35 prices
S50B32 and S54B32 are the best engines because of how smooth they are
Now, mine is a M3 2022. Not the competition one. Manual. What is the difference of mine and the competition one? Thanks for the video.
Having owned an e46 m3 and now owning a manual e90 m3 and F82 M4 comp all I can say is I’m an N/A guy. High revving matched with a raw sensation. The M4 is badass in its own right but I have no connection with it.
Have never owned an M3 but driven a few. A coworker had a mid 90s car with the SMG single clutch automated manual. Trans was better than I expected, torque was good, HP was lacking but not a problem unless you wanted 10/10ths performance. I worked for a component supplier to the 7-spd DCT paired with the 2008 S65 V8. Got to drive a German spec car on an unlimited section of the Autobahn! Reached 240 Km/h (150 mph) in 5th gear before having to back off for slower traffic. My German colleagues claimed the car would hit 300 Km/h if given enough empty road! If I were shopping for one today in the USA, it would be an S54 drop top.
S55 is my favorite engine
I love the s65❤
N55 open deck and s55 closed deck, right? If so, they only share like 20%
Love them all 🏁 have M e36-E92... Thinking dct my e46 when SMG going bad.... Or s65 swap and take s54 into e36 🤣 or into e24 with s65
Bias to the s54 as I drive an e46 m3 ;)
What about the n54 engine I had mine in e46 325i
I have an e46m3.Everything works total engine rebuild,new clutch,drive shaft,diff seals axel boots,diff bushings ect.I'll either trade it or go Ls3 swap.
Tough choice between the s54 and and the v8. the s54 defo has some special noises , the v8 is crazy but the chassis and where the engine sits wasn’t for my liking . they make a carbon box for the v8 too now would love to hear that in person . Headaches and engine swaps aside I love my e46 m3 for lots of small different reasons after having owned a wide range of cars in my life . next for me is a porka 911 if I do upgrade no way another e92 m3 although amazing car if strictly weekend as a daily the e46 was just easier for me . if lived in the states or Europe I’d defo have the e92 m3 over the e46 though . Weird ? lol . we have small roads here in the U.K. .
I was kinda disappointed the P60B40 didn't get a mention in this list, even if it was just a footnote.
S54B32HP (CSL variation). Because emotions.