@@Januario-s1j .This lady of yours interrupt a speaker,she interject and eliminates the possibility of us getting valuable information because she wants to be a centre of attraction and you think she is great.you are crazy!
@@greatartthoumaluleka6740you are glorifying madness ,do you know it's bad manners to interrupt when someone is talking? Do you know what is decency? do you know what is meant by professionalism?
Amen so so true. There's never any getting away with things. Even if one dies truth finds it's way to come out. All things have to be uncovered. God is good
@@hrhprincemalangazulu9963 The real truth about anything ever comes out here in South Africa and its always in the secrets act never to be seen,,, Unless its something in the past and done by the whites??
I had a privilege of visiting Robben Iceland and learning a lot about it for a week. In truth, that Iceland has more brutal and heart breaking history than what is being shown. More people were killed & tortures in that Island.. I'm glad this is coming out because from what I saw there, only two South Africans were arrested in that prison for 27yrs (Jeff and Nkosi) but sadly they are not honored as much as the ones who stays 10 & 18yrs, who used to vanish for 3days in the Island to go negotiate with the oppressors privately without the presence of their fellow prisoners. Truth shall come out eventually
@@thokozanidzobozsangweni7134 you will always hear downplaying of our Heroes from these white broadcasts....people who are nothing to assist in black lives talking much than doing
This message is for my people in the land: My people why have you acted so terribly against the LORD? Your parents had rebelled against the LORD, because they ignored His warnings and gave heed to deceitful people. Those people you trusted are the ones who mislead you to sin against the LORD like your ancestors. Repent from this evil or none of our people will inherit this good land.
Do u present your ancestors as something to be worshipped and praised or do u acknowledge them as real people from whom you descend? Africans have never worshipped their ancestors. That's a misrepresentation of our culture, we simply acknowledge and attempt to honor the lineage from which we hail.
God created you and he alone should be acknowledge idol worshipping begin there satan is a master of deception that is how many blacks enter samagoma worshipping which is witchcraft
If South Africa today was prosperous and people were employed and hopeful - they wouldn't think Mandela sold them out. So rather ask - why is South Africa still poor and there is no emplyment or hope?
Thanks to Nelson Mandela for sneaking out of prison and negotiate with the oppresser otherwise we would be living in a country that is full of civil wars like our fellow African countries... everything country in Africa is coming to South Africa and that makes wonder ukuthi besizobalekelaphi thina...
@@veezherehis name is achmat cassim. He passaway in 2023. He was the leader of qibla and a activist. Then he was a leader of the pan Africanist congress. He was on robben island aswell.
Apparently, according to some people, in the international community, Nelson Mandela died in prison. Some claim that the person we saw on TV in the 90's being released was not the real guy
Have you not been in Robben Island, Sobukwe's jailhouse was separate from the others and was always surrounded by vicious dogs. Most of our ANC cadres were talking well about Sobukwe.
Choices to intellectualize the contributions of Nelson Mandela is negligible at this point. Nelson’s stature is towering for many reasons, he had the intellectual girth to be reckoned with and he also had the discipline to execute the fundamentals of what was expected of a phenomenal leader. His sacrifice for the people of South Africa should in no way be analyzed from angles of dubious political or personal gesticulations. I don’t believe that facts should be held in the situation, however, it is important to ask the question: is this interview intended to assert facts or diminish an icon of remarkable accomplishment? Without Nelson, I wonder what the South African holistic story would have been? My respect to all well meaning and respectable Africans.
Azania was going to be be born if it wasn't for your Favorite Mandela. We lost twice in one short.. But never mind... Something huge is coming,,, Azania will never be the same again ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
@@66pst Your question is foolish...! Mandela was in prison for fighting for our rights regardless of the years spent but the fact is; he was sentenced and kept in prison for us to have the freedom we have today. If he didn't have the wisdom that he had after his release this country was going to have serious wars. His Leadership style and Peaceful transition into a democratic country was par excellence. How many years did you spend in prison for our freedom? Did you even spend a day?
@@sihlejpromajola1718 i like the part you say"...regardless of ....":Thats African madness, in face of a forgery and scheme, we still go with the narrative. Crazy!.....and he did the fight all alone, for us and our freedom, while the other did nothing, of course. Mad stuff
@@66pst Mandela never claimed any victories alone (go back to his speeches)... Stop being buffoons and argue about things that are NOT even necessary. Who forge what, exactly??? because it's known fact that Mandela was removed from Robben Island early into a house Arrest. In fact, Mama Winnie collected Mandela from that house and his comrades visited him in that house... So you wanted the Apartheid regime to keep him in Robben Island under harsh condition without preparing him to lead the country? Do understand why there's a TRAINING before you take any serious job??? You guys think running a country is Walking around in the Bushes. That's your problem. The fact is Mandela was taken away from his family for 27 years & put under the control of the Apartheid regeme. Now, to find a Black man arguing about years which spent in prison as if Mandela or other struggle heroes were to suffer in prison for many years is quiet foolish and nonsensical.
The PAC will never have anything good to say about Mandela. I read that once when in prison, Mandela was forced by the prison authorities to work and eat alone; the PAC also decided their leader in prison would work and eat alone. Comical!
@@Januario-s1j He was mostly feared one by the apartheid regime, Mandela was created to be a apartheid hero, Sobukwe was so influential that they decided for him that he will be in solitary confiment for 6 years
@@meeshnozigqwaba8972I think you're missing the point a bit. MK, under the instruction of the ANC waged a guerilla style war against Apartheid that targeted citizens. The Wimpy bombing in Pretoria, the Toti Mall bombing in Amanzimtoti, the Ellis Park bombing. The list goes on. Now, we won't move forward as a nation if we keep looking backwards. Apartheid was evil. It was wrong. It was sickening, and it still is to think about 30 plus years later. MK, and their allies during that time may have felt justified (and rightly so) to do some of the things they did, but it still doesn't make two wrongs into a right. The TRC was imperfect in its execution. But it was the best we could do, and necessary. It is very true that the TRC did not uncover enough of the crimes committed by the state against non-whites in this country. It is also true that they did not uncover enough of the crimes committed by liberation forces against the white communities. What has made the TRC seem more imperfect is our fascination with dredging up the past. Our focus on the injustices. Part of this is the ANC still, 30 years after democracy, blaming their failures on the National Party. Part of this is because of the politicians who choose racism over nation building and a disdain for the constitution they swear to uphold in their oath of office. And unfortunately, we keep voting for them. We keep believing their lies while they steal from us. We perpetuate their criminal behaviour by becoming soldiers of their untruths. We treat our fellow South Africans with suspicion and distrust. We feed our suspicions with hatred and contempt. And this is why we will never truly be free.
Our history was distorted and the way we have obtained democracy on a dirty slate, that is why even today we are struggling to get our country in order. We are not going to get this country correct as long as we use propaganda, everybody who want to be rich is forming a political party. Because he or she knows that by receiving a seat in Parliament, poverty is done away with in his or her family. We need to look in this matter seriously it affects the whole country. The money which was supposed to help the is paying the political parties who are not of help to the needy, fellow SA citizens it is time to wake up and stand up and talk.
He kept a series of desk calendars on Robben Island Prison where he was held from 13 June 1964 to 31 March 1982 and in Pollsmoor Prison where he was until 12 August 1988 and at Victor Verster Prison when he was transferred there, until his release on 11 February 1990.
Mandela gave black South Africans access they didn't have during the apartheid. You could go to schools you couldn't go to in the past, get jobs in companies that didn't hire blacks during apartheid. You could vote, a right blacks were denied during apartheid. He did his part and remember he was only a one term president. How did he sell out? What's happening in South Africa now is a result of corruption and bad governance of the ANC.
@@knowz2367when u have economical freedom non of what u mentioned are a problem, why were we in that condition in the first place, our freedom came from international pressure, this ppl white ppl hasn't changed
@@knowz2367he was the face that rose hope to the black community in large. But behind the scenes as a one term president, he signed a lot of rights away. For all that you mentioned had to eventually happen because S.A was sanctioned for years and those sanctions were taking toll on the economy. We are now here today to look back and act why did he sign the rightful act to take what was once ours.
The fact here is that our ANC just after the great Luthuli and baba Tambo has those leaders who compromised and support ed the enemies. Even the death of Hani was so questionable even today.
@@TsekoMofokeng-v2o tf did he do to begin with? Your question is a cop-out as it stems from emotions rather than logic... who wins a Nobel peace prize in the MIDDLE of th struggle? Unless they're favoured by the oppressor... when did that happen can you tell me?
Wow, South Africa! This is serious conspiracy theory. Is this man telling the truth? I was a teenager, when all these things were happening. When June 16 event happened I was 15 years old.We are so used of the other story that we cannot believe in this one.
This is one of the reason that we will never won war agaist white people😂😂they turn us against one another sawing division among our black comunities 😂
@@bee-sting Here are the facts. 1. The IFP and anc got on well up to 1979 when Dr MG Buthelezi (yes a real Doctor, unlike mandela) but this was ruined when Dr Buthelezi refused to use violence as means to overthrow the government. 2. MK was the armed wing of the anc. These terrorists killed only civilians. But especially they concentrated on killing IFP members. Mostly tribal chiefs and office bearers. 3. The IFP never necklaced anyone. The anc most certainly did. 4. The IFP never never bombed any shopping centres or pubs, bars and hotels frequented by civilians. The anc did. 5. The IFP did nothing other than defend themselves. The anc killed more people than the police, army and IFP combined. 6. The IFP never ran death camps in Angola and other countries around Africa.
Sometimes the truth seems harsh, but the reality of this is seen in the current state of affairs: only people who moved forward in this country are the rich people. The rest of the oppressed people are still poor, and that is a direct result of the negotiations 'Mandela' agreed with.
You hated Mandela to a level that you still opposing him in his grave. Deal with current problems of crime and unemployment. Leave Mandela alone so he can rest in peace. Are we failing so much that still blaming Mandela after 25 years of him being president?
U are narrow minded n a born free who understands nothing. The man lost almost the whole of his life n he did not raise his children because he was imprisoned and you call that soft life.
Mandela is a great example of humanity. Without him, SA could have been similar to the wars that are happening in Isarel or the country could have became banana Republic like our neighbours Zimbabwe. Mandela is praised by the international community and not minority white people in SA. There was no need for him to go to jail as he was educated n he was married n had children. He could have decided that this is not my fight but he still fought n alerted the international community about apartheid in our country. But Ama 2000 who lacks knowledge still blame him. They only know Julius Malema who enjoys the fruits of freedom thay the likes of Madiba fought for.
Bongani thsnk you for sharing and digging this history. I've bumped into these interesting videos of yours, as I was looking at the infomercial about Malcom X. There r short trails on UA-cam about The Godfather of Harlem and Malvom X us there as well even ehen he was killed. Thank you for sharing this wonderful and interesting history that has not been truthfully shared with Soutb Africans regardless of race and colour 🙏🙏🙏🍁💞❤️💖🌷🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Zulus have been in a struggle against Madiba’s legacy for the longest time. Without this kind of tribal obsession from them there would be no such thing as factionalism in the ANC. You cannot rewrite history. Shaka was a psychopath, gatsha Buthelezi massacred blacks, Zuma is a corrupt leader who destroyed SA economy. This is accurate history
Whether you liked him or not means nothing. He did all he could to politically liberate people. Your EFF will not liberate in any form until it dies politically because they are worse than anc of Mandela.
@@stephenpheratsetse2703 never liked him either. He was a terrorist of the worst kind, the whole world thinks he is a saint but he is not. The ANC have systematically destroyed South Africa in every possible way, what a legacy they leave!!
Just started watching the video but when the guy says Mandela was on Robben Island for only 18 years he makes it sound like spending 18 year in a terrible prison is better than spending 27 years. Makes no difference. Mandela and Co. should not have been in prison at all.
Opinion on MANDELA not supported by facts amongst all his peers who were there with him. Sobukwe was feared just as much as Steve Biko was. Free the mind of the prisoner is forever important.
History.... say this today..... and that tomorrow. We hear different stories everyday. I just live for today..... you can't change the past and you don't know what tomorrow brings!
Nelson Mandela was and still is an icon all over the world. There is a park in Sestri Levante Italy named after him. He was on Robben Island for 18 years and then transferred to Pollsmoor Prison. The period that he was President, South Africa prospered for all its people, unlike the 9 wasted years under President Zuma.
@@carmenleite5251 Stop it now Neslson Mandela and Jacob Zuma are the same non is better.whats wrong with you.Ask them to name your fancy park Robert Mangaliso Sobukwe.
@@SabeloNdimande-ly8kcZuma he only sang and danced for us and encouraged more sugar daddies and poligamies in this country Mandela was the greatest president of our country...
@@SabeloNdimande-ly8kclet me educate you about what is selling it seems like you don't know it's meaning 😅selling out is selling chickens and animals to people not to just whites only and people's land you ask it nicely not by force or negotiate to buy it to avoid a possible WAR, DISASTER and BLOOD SHED white people have papers for their property,and land unfortunately we don't have those papers as blacks so please THINK better than you thinking Mandela never sold he was a qualified lawyer by profession and also used his God given brain cells to THINK and he negotiated for the better of this country and generations to come not like the popularist people like Zuma and Malema 🤣
@@katoleeric4454 Your 20 likes are self generated! You should be advocating for you to be the people president.I am certain Zuma doesn't give a f@ck about you.
@@tshidisomoraka8861 This person is delusional,uloyiwe by loving Zuma so much. I say everyone who align with the ANC after the PAC breakaway is indeed a sellout myself included. In 2024 if you follow the old ANC or the new ANC called MKP you are not self respecting .Its time for detox
@@nomagcisacawe3297 Looking at your name I can see why you want me to change mine, Imagine being named NOMAGCISA. do your research about this Mandela mna I was just highlighting just one little thing. This guy once went to Qunu and he didnt even know basic things about how they grew up, what did they like to do when they go swimming emlanjeni he couldnt answer so now if its really him why kuzobanzima uphendula ezozinto
How can you fix something that was never fixed to begin with. You can't even nationalize means of production, then you want to tell us about moving on. Get the f*** outta here
I would to those who believe Mr Mandela ohhhh bayede mhlekazi🙌, sold us, so if they think they would have done than Nelson they still a chance to go fight to reclaim back our land n farms than speaking too much on social platforms. Bcz according to me Nelson did what was required for that moment. So if you think you are a hero enough stop talking do something
I felt it when she touched on how the legendary Robert Mangaliso Sobukwe has been written and erased out of South African political history. But he isn't the only one, hundreds and possibily thousands of brilliant, loyal revolutionaries have been systematically blacked-out from the memory of future generations of this once troubled land.
Learned more in this video than i did in years of schooling 👏🏾👏🏾
You guys don't learn anywhere buddy 😂
What’s done in the dark will always find a way to shine.
Peak journalism! Love this woman's grit and intellect❤
Who is this brilliant lady again she was a good journalist unlike what we have now?
you are right, my dear brother. I would like to know as well who is this lady.
@@Januario-s1j .This lady of yours interrupt a speaker,she interject and eliminates the possibility of us getting valuable information because she wants to be a centre of attraction and you think she is great.you are crazy!
Indeed,way too much smart than this pathetic lot
@@greatartthoumaluleka6740you are glorifying madness ,do you know it's bad manners to interrupt when someone is talking? Do you know what is decency? do you know what is meant by professionalism?
@@Januario-s1j you a clapping hands for a mockery of an interview.
No one can hide the truth for ever, however, truth will always come out whether one likes it or not.Thankful to Almighty!
Amen so so true. There's never any getting away with things. Even if one dies truth finds it's way to come out. All things have to be uncovered. God is good
Mandela and his terrorists have totally ruined this country , just like Mugabe did to Zimboland years before??😂😂
the truth shall prevail.
@@hrhprincemalangazulu9963 The real truth about anything ever comes out here in South Africa and its always in the secrets act never to be seen,,, Unless its something in the past and done by the whites??
@@hrhprincemalangazulu9963 It never does in African as they don't things to work as they won't be able to keep stealing as they do now💯💯
I had a privilege of visiting Robben Iceland and learning a lot about it for a week. In truth, that Iceland has more brutal and heart breaking history than what is being shown. More people were killed & tortures in that Island.. I'm glad this is coming out because from what I saw there, only two South Africans were arrested in that prison for 27yrs (Jeff and Nkosi) but sadly they are not honored as much as the ones who stays 10 & 18yrs, who used to vanish for 3days in the Island to go negotiate with the oppressors privately without the presence of their fellow prisoners. Truth shall come out eventually
Iceland....
polsmore for around 10 years in a villa with pool. not 27 years in lceland boy
Arrested for what?
@@sibongisenikhumalo8198 gay clubs gay men at his house. gay books gay films arrested
you don't have a clue what happened there!!!!
We want to hear more about this truth..💯🙏
Indeed,we have been fed lies for far too long...
@@thokozanidzobozsangweni7134 you will always hear downplaying of our Heroes from these white broadcasts....people who are nothing to assist in black lives talking much than doing
😊
😊@@KaoMohomane
This message is for my people in the land:
My people why have you acted so terribly against the LORD? Your parents had rebelled against the LORD, because they ignored His warnings and gave heed to deceitful people. Those people you trusted are the ones who mislead you to sin against the LORD like your ancestors. Repent from this evil or none of our people will inherit this good land.
Do u present your ancestors as something to be worshipped and praised or do u acknowledge them as real people from whom you descend?
Africans have never worshipped their ancestors. That's a misrepresentation of our culture, we simply acknowledge and attempt to honor the lineage from which we hail.
God created you and he alone should be acknowledge idol worshipping begin there satan is a master of deception that is how many blacks enter samagoma worshipping which is witchcraft
@@BlessedFavoured-q8o nobody in all of Africa has ever worshipped a Sangoma, do u worship your doctor?
If South Africa today was prosperous and people were employed and hopeful - they wouldn't think Mandela sold them out. So rather ask - why is South Africa still poor and there is no emplyment or hope?
It's because of the capitalists who are running our country abo UK, America ne England
Corrupt goverment with little to no soul are in Command... Easy answer really.
Mandela is an escape goat for fake pan-africans
What's crazy is that they're not telling the whole truth.
He is not Mandela that guy
YT algorithm is trash
That’s why they destroyed Winnie.
Nailed it, its a pity our people can't even see that.
Winnie destroyed herself
Sadly yes
@@fezimaruping6864Mama Winnie was stronger than a rock. I still can’t forgive the lady that Mandela married
@@TryphosaSiweyathat’s not true
And look what has happened to this country since 1994.
Your mom cheeks got clapped??😮
What happened..?lesser people were killed by the government..??
Yes, apartheid was over
More unemployment and fewer jobs. Richer government members.
A BLOODY MESS AND BETRAYAL OF THE AFRICAN NATION INCLuDING RACIAL DISCRIMINATION OF WHITES
We need to rewrite our history..thank God,we still have People who are versed with exactly the milestones
You're absolutely right, we were fed lies
damn
From the time I could comprehend the what’s happening,I knew we something was wrong,a lot didn’t add up
@@bongani_menze yes by the marxist hijackers in 94. look at the result in 2024
There is always something new. Lets open that can.
Imam was a very truth and just full person. Very intelligent. May his legecy live on. Izweletu MA afrika.
Thanks to Nelson Mandela for sneaking out of prison and negotiate with the oppresser otherwise we would be living in a country that is full of civil wars like our fellow African countries... everything country in Africa is coming to South Africa and that makes wonder ukuthi besizobalekelaphi thina...
Is Imam the name of the person being interviewed? What is his full name please, I would like to learn more
@@veezherehis name is achmat cassim. He passaway in 2023. He was the leader of qibla and a activist. Then he was a leader of the pan Africanist congress. He was on robben island aswell.
@@fatimaahmed5347 thank you ma'am
@@BavuyiseNohabuza even though i don't fully agree your opinion but it's a fascinating perspective, really
Apparently, according to some people, in the international community, Nelson Mandela died in prison. Some claim that the person we saw on TV in the 90's being released was not the real guy
False
True
True 💯
😂😂😂
Mandela may have possibly been incarcerated and died in the prison
Thank you for sharing this! Robert Mangaliso Sobukwe... Wow! I've learnt something here
Have you not been in Robben Island, Sobukwe's jailhouse was separate from the others and was always surrounded by vicious dogs. Most of our ANC cadres were talking well about Sobukwe.
Choices to intellectualize the contributions of Nelson Mandela is negligible at this point. Nelson’s stature is towering for many reasons, he had the intellectual girth to be reckoned with and he also had the discipline to execute the fundamentals of what was expected of a phenomenal leader. His sacrifice for the people of South Africa should in no way be analyzed from angles of dubious political or personal gesticulations. I don’t believe that facts should be held in the situation, however, it is important to ask the question: is this interview intended to assert facts or diminish an icon of remarkable accomplishment? Without Nelson, I wonder what the South African holistic story would have been? My respect to all well meaning and respectable Africans.
Azania was going to be be born if it wasn't for your Favorite Mandela.
We lost twice in one short..
But never mind...
Something huge is coming,,,
Azania will never be the same again ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
@@PeterMashapahaven't you realized that most people who view Mandela as a hero are mostly Caucasians
Voetsek wena msunu
@@PeterMashapaWhere's Azania, again?
Nah we will be there judge of that
I wish one can praise Sobukwe without villfying Mandela as Mandela's followers never say anything against Sobukwe.
Praise Mandela for what,after this documentary?
@@66pst Your question is foolish...! Mandela was in prison for fighting for our rights regardless of the years spent but the fact is; he was sentenced and kept in prison for us to have the freedom we have today. If he didn't have the wisdom that he had after his release this country was going to have serious wars. His Leadership style and Peaceful transition into a democratic country was par excellence.
How many years did you spend in prison for our freedom? Did you even spend a day?
@@sihlejpromajola1718 i like the part you say"...regardless of ....":Thats African madness, in face of a forgery and scheme, we still go with the narrative.
Crazy!.....and he did the fight all alone, for us and our freedom, while the other did nothing, of course. Mad stuff
@@66pst Mandela never claimed any victories alone (go back to his speeches)... Stop being buffoons and argue about things that are NOT even necessary. Who forge what, exactly??? because it's known fact that Mandela was removed from Robben Island early into a house Arrest. In fact, Mama Winnie collected Mandela from that house and his comrades visited him in that house... So you wanted the Apartheid regime to keep him in Robben Island under harsh condition without preparing him to lead the country? Do understand why there's a TRAINING before you take any serious job??? You guys think running a country is Walking around in the Bushes. That's your problem.
The fact is Mandela was taken away from his family for 27 years & put under the control of the Apartheid regeme. Now, to find a Black man arguing about years which spent in prison as if Mandela or other struggle heroes were to suffer in prison for many years is quiet foolish and nonsensical.
The PAC will never have anything good to say about Mandela. I read that once when in prison, Mandela was forced by the prison authorities to work and eat alone; the PAC also decided their leader in prison would work and eat alone. Comical!
The Sobukwe clause? A law written just against or for one man? Why are we silent about this? How will our children know unless we tell them?
Section 36 of SA Constitution yes. Law of General Application .
@@johndias1439 Thank you for enlightening me.
@@Januario-s1j shap
@@Januario-s1j He was mostly feared one by the apartheid regime, Mandela was created to be a apartheid hero, Sobukwe was so influential that they decided for him that he will be in solitary confiment for 6 years
@@thandomvimbi1558 thank you!
Neither did the ANC confess any of their atrocities 😂😂
And that makes it justified?
They wouldn't have happened if the apartheid government was nonexistent
They did and they were found guilty in the commission PW Botha didn't even show up to the commission when asked to yet y'all cry when Zuma refuses to
confess? did you skip the part where people spent decades in prison & murdered? you are a bit twisted buddy
@@meeshnozigqwaba8972I think you're missing the point a bit.
MK, under the instruction of the ANC waged a guerilla style war against Apartheid that targeted citizens.
The Wimpy bombing in Pretoria, the Toti Mall bombing in Amanzimtoti, the Ellis Park bombing. The list goes on.
Now, we won't move forward as a nation if we keep looking backwards.
Apartheid was evil. It was wrong. It was sickening, and it still is to think about 30 plus years later.
MK, and their allies during that time may have felt justified (and rightly so) to do some of the things they did, but it still doesn't make two wrongs into a right.
The TRC was imperfect in its execution. But it was the best we could do, and necessary.
It is very true that the TRC did not uncover enough of the crimes committed by the state against non-whites in this country. It is also true that they did not uncover enough of the crimes committed by liberation forces against the white communities.
What has made the TRC seem more imperfect is our fascination with dredging up the past. Our focus on the injustices.
Part of this is the ANC still, 30 years after democracy, blaming their failures on the National Party. Part of this is because of the politicians who choose racism over nation building and a disdain for the constitution they swear to uphold in their oath of office.
And unfortunately, we keep voting for them. We keep believing their lies while they steal from us. We perpetuate their criminal behaviour by becoming soldiers of their untruths.
We treat our fellow South Africans with suspicion and distrust. We feed our suspicions with hatred and contempt.
And this is why we will never truly be free.
Our history was distorted and the way we have obtained democracy on a dirty slate, that is why even today we are struggling to get our country in order. We are not going to get this country correct as long as we use propaganda, everybody who want to be rich is forming a political party. Because he or she knows that by receiving a seat in Parliament, poverty is done away with in his or her family. We need to look in this matter seriously it affects the whole country. The money which was supposed to help the is paying the political parties who are not of help to the needy, fellow SA citizens it is time to wake up and stand up and talk.
Spot on. They way things are happening jerrr is just a shame.
Ppl won't see it now they busy with tranding staff
He kept a series of desk calendars on Robben Island Prison where he was held from 13 June 1964 to 31 March 1982 and in Pollsmoor Prison where he was until 12 August 1988 and at Victor Verster Prison when he was transferred there, until his release on 11 February 1990.
He went to pollsmoor wearing a suit😊
We moved from one form of slavery to another Deuteronomy 28, just packaged differently, this is sad 😔 😢
That man is no hero, he sold out.
Mandela gave black South Africans access they didn't have during the apartheid. You could go to schools you couldn't go to in the past, get jobs in companies that didn't hire blacks during apartheid. You could vote, a right blacks were denied during apartheid. He did his part and remember he was only a one term president. How did he sell out? What's happening in South Africa now is a result of corruption and bad governance of the ANC.
@@knowz2367 Under who's command look beyond ANC
@@knowz2367when u have economical freedom non of what u mentioned are a problem, why were we in that condition in the first place, our freedom came from international pressure, this ppl white ppl hasn't changed
@@knowz2367he was the face that rose hope to the black community in large.
But behind the scenes as a one term president, he signed a lot of rights away. For all that you mentioned had to eventually happen because S.A was sanctioned for years and those sanctions were taking toll on the economy.
We are now here today to look back and act why did he sign the rightful act to take what was once ours.
Yhooooo andinamazwi .we fail our children. Never feel like this 💔💔💔💔
All his speeches were written for him.
Where were you when that happened? Aren't you being too presumptuous
Only clever blacks
False
Theyre still doing it even today, Ramaposas speech 😂
@@dillomnisi921those hardly exist.
I always believed that Madiba didn't get the Bantu Biko 'treatment' because Mandela could be 'dealt with'.
Long live Sobukwe❤
Long live Sobukwe
Loñg live
I never agreed from day one about Mandela history
In my political life and political school I've never had this truth but I had a instinct that someone, somewhere knows the (TRUTH)😢
The fact here is that our ANC just after the great Luthuli and baba Tambo has those leaders who compromised and support ed the enemies. Even the death of Hani was so questionable even today.
Your historical account is very questionable. Luthuli died in 1967. Tambo died in 1993... Remember
Why did Luthuli walk onto the rail tracks as the train approached?
Mxm
Luthuli is the biggest sellouy of all time😂😂😂
He won a Nobel peace prize in the middle of Apartheid😭😭😭 gtfoh😂😂
@@zibelebruciebenubrucieb8850if you were him,what could you have done?
@@TsekoMofokeng-v2o tf did he do to begin with? Your question is a cop-out as it stems from emotions rather than logic... who wins a Nobel peace prize in the MIDDLE of th struggle? Unless they're favoured by the oppressor... when did that happen can you tell me?
Wow, South Africa! This is serious conspiracy theory. Is this man telling the truth? I was a teenager, when all these things were happening. When June 16 event happened I was 15 years old.We are so used of the other story that we cannot believe in this one.
You must read a book titled “playing the enemy” by John Carlin. It tells the truth not distortions spread in this interview
@@tompanewalter Thank you.
Thank you for this interview.
That man wasn't Nelson Mandela.
Mandela died in the 80s after interrogation.
why was he so pro lgbt changing laws for the gay revolution of south africa
Give us the evidence.We don't believe in theories
I agree with this a person bone structure don't change so drastically just because of old age. That was not the same person
@@edbee7674his bone structure is not consistent,the young Mandela and the old mandela are not consistent in structure
This is one of the reason that we will never won war agaist white people😂😂they turn us against one another sawing division among our black comunities 😂
Great journalism
Wow. Informative
Good interview, thanks Bongani.
Izwelethu poqo PAC the only party that was truthful to the liberation of our people
@@Cybernetwo 😅 but just look around! Where is it? Stagnant!!
Mandela wadlala ngabantu abamnyama 😢, manje kuyavela ukuthi wayengumdayisi and akasenzelanga lutho as abantu abamnyama 😢😢.uma umholi wabantu engungwa and ethandwa abelungu umdayisi lowo. Umholi wabantu abamnyama umbona ngokuzondwa Abelungu ne system yabelungu.
UZuma yedwa umholi wesizwe sakithi.
Manje konke kusobala njengezinqa zeselesele ukuthi ngempela kwakungesiyena Mandela loyana.Yini eyadala ukuthi aphume ejele adivose umkakhe qede ahlale namabhunu emzini wawo.Angahlala nje no Msholozi?
Phansi Khongoloza! Viva Shenge!!!
@@PhansiKhongolozaaybo, usho loShenge owabulala abantu eKZN yini?😮
@@bee-sting Here are the facts.
1. The IFP and anc got on well up to 1979 when Dr MG Buthelezi (yes a real Doctor, unlike mandela) but this was ruined when Dr Buthelezi refused to use violence as means to overthrow the government.
2. MK was the armed wing of the anc. These terrorists killed only civilians. But especially they concentrated on killing IFP members. Mostly tribal chiefs and office bearers.
3. The IFP never necklaced anyone. The anc most certainly did.
4. The IFP never never bombed any shopping centres or pubs, bars and hotels frequented by civilians. The anc did.
5. The IFP did nothing other than defend themselves.
The anc killed more people than the police, army and IFP combined.
6. The IFP never ran death camps in Angola and other countries around Africa.
It is so easy to make statements about someone (Nelson Mandela in this case) when they have already died, thus unable to defend themselves.
some truths must come out in the fullness of time, like when he was knighted by the Malta order ,Freemasonry orders
Because it is true
Sometimes the truth seems harsh, but the reality of this is seen in the current state of affairs: only people who moved forward in this country are the rich people. The rest of the oppressed people are still poor, and that is a direct result of the negotiations 'Mandela' agreed with.
@@bradrockl8330What did Mandela agreed with?
You hated Mandela to a level that you still opposing him in his grave. Deal with current problems of crime and unemployment. Leave Mandela alone so he can rest in peace. Are we failing so much that still blaming Mandela after 25 years of him being president?
Spot on
Brother you can tell that this interview was conducted in the early 2000s and is just resurfacing now.....
You talk Malebe now Mr Malebe
Mandela was living soft life during apartheid
What do you mean?
Sarcasm?
U are narrow minded n a born free who understands nothing. The man lost almost the whole of his life n he did not raise his children because he was imprisoned and you call that soft life.
Thank you very much for this video .
You welcome 🤗
The full interview is Also available here in the channel
There was a time they were praying for him to escape at Victor Verster
Eeeish Mandela maaan😭
Anyway,lon live the spirit of the forgotten anti racism struggle,Cde Jeff Masemola..
Cabal stirring the pot again!
Memories!
Thank you :)
Every single thing done in secret will be Shouted from the rooftops...it just is!
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Indaba elilizwe elokhokho bethu ayisebenzi ngoba niyanxila
Profound 👊🏾
Hidden knowledge 👏🏽
What are they up to now? Give ppl jobs, go to jail for stealing from public purse.....and stop cheap politics
I doubted Mandela all my life, how can an African man be praised as such by the oppressors
Mr Nelson Mandela was a puppet, Mr Zuma and Mr Ramaphoza they know the truth.
They never thought he can have a sign of mercy.
Mandela is a great example of humanity. Without him, SA could have been similar to the wars that are happening in Isarel or the country could have became banana Republic like our neighbours Zimbabwe. Mandela is praised by the international community and not minority white people in SA. There was no need for him to go to jail as he was educated n he was married n had children. He could have decided that this is not my fight but he still fought n alerted the international community about apartheid in our country. But Ama 2000 who lacks knowledge still blame him. They only know Julius Malema who enjoys the fruits of freedom thay the likes of Madiba fought for.
I've been saying the same thing. It tells you what kind of a person he was
Bongani thsnk you for sharing and digging this history. I've bumped into these interesting videos of yours, as I was looking at the infomercial about Malcom X. There r short trails on UA-cam about The Godfather of Harlem and Malvom X us there as well even ehen he was killed.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful and interesting history that has not been truthfully shared with Soutb Africans regardless of race and colour 🙏🙏🙏🍁💞❤️💖🌷🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Kudlaliwe Ngathi.
True
Trace your steps back. Queen Elizabeth plays a massive role in all of this 😢
Zulus have been in a struggle against Madiba’s legacy for the longest time. Without this kind of tribal obsession from them there would be no such thing as factionalism in the ANC. You cannot rewrite history. Shaka was a psychopath, gatsha Buthelezi massacred blacks, Zuma is a corrupt leader who destroyed SA economy. This is accurate history
😂😂zuma akasali .uphi ramaphosa uyasala yena ngoba udla kuye
@@ThokozaniMngomezuluWe know what you are up to and there is nothing pro black about it.
Useless post about Zulus always from small minded individuals, it's not new thing
@@thulanidakiddmkhize6801 ok
Your right abt shaka
Mandela and his mates were treated like no other terrorists were treated
He lived the life of a Prince behind bars
Very interesting
I wish this was longer and more detailed because there's more to be learned
The full interview 👉👉ua-cam.com/video/exGlhiEWgQg/v-deo.htmlsi=kspM5gUYucmGaV63
@@bongani_menze thank you 💯
That's why I NEVER liked Mandela and all the ANC puppets and sellouts. ❤ the EFF
You can say it again
Whether you liked him or not means nothing. He did all he could to politically liberate people. Your EFF will not liberate in any form until it dies politically because they are worse than anc of Mandela.
@@stephenpheratsetse2703 never liked him either. He was a terrorist of the worst kind, the whole world thinks he is a saint but he is not. The ANC have systematically destroyed South Africa in every possible way, what a legacy they leave!!
You were not there by then,you are just spreading unnecessary hatred amongst people
Just Subscribed... So much to learn wow...
Just started watching the video but when the guy says Mandela was on Robben Island for only 18 years he makes it sound like spending 18 year in a terrible prison is better than spending 27 years. Makes no difference. Mandela and Co. should not have been in prison at all.
That's not his point he is correcting a historical error which has been perpetuated for years
Correct
He was actually trying to make people aware of what happened with the other 9 years cos that's when he sold out
@@sakhilemashego8299exactly
Do you even know why Mandela went to prison ???
Mandela said "aluta continua, the struggle continues✊🏽" so let's stop pointing fingers at each other.
Because he knew that he already sold us so it impossible for us to stop the struggle hence he said the struggle continue 😅
We all knew that he is in pollsmoor, the media houses wrote about that
Opinion on MANDELA not supported by facts amongst all his peers who were there with him. Sobukwe was feared just as much as Steve Biko was. Free the mind of the prisoner is forever important.
PAINFUL!
Mind Blowing!!!
Yeah hey true
Yoh! There's a lot we don't know.
Your people don't know fuckall and never will.
History.... say this today..... and that tomorrow. We hear different stories everyday. I just live for today..... you can't change the past and you don't know what tomorrow brings!
Nelson Mandela was and still is an icon all over the world. There is a park in Sestri Levante Italy named after him. He was on Robben Island for 18 years and then transferred to Pollsmoor Prison. The period that he was President, South Africa prospered for all its people, unlike the 9 wasted years under President Zuma.
@@carmenleite5251 Stop it now Neslson Mandela and Jacob Zuma are the same non is better.whats wrong with you.Ask them to name your fancy park Robert Mangaliso Sobukwe.
Zuma did more for the african people than Mandela or any president has ever done. Famous quote "when the enemy loves me know that iv sold out"
True that brother 🤞 Mandela was the best president we had in this country Zuma was the worst 💪👊
@@SabeloNdimande-ly8kcZuma he only sang and danced for us and encouraged more sugar daddies and poligamies in this country Mandela was the greatest president of our country...
@@SabeloNdimande-ly8kclet me educate you about what is selling it seems like you don't know it's meaning 😅selling out is selling chickens and animals to people not to just whites only and people's land you ask it nicely not by force or negotiate to buy it to avoid a possible WAR, DISASTER and BLOOD SHED white people have papers for their property,and land unfortunately we don't have those papers as blacks so please THINK better than you thinking Mandela never sold he was a qualified lawyer by profession and also used his God given brain cells to THINK and he negotiated for the better of this country and generations to come not like the popularist people like Zuma and Malema 🤣
Kyk binnekort wat doen God met die sogenaamde struggle-helde, harhar
Mandela was a Xhosa but he never spoke Xhosa ever since he was a President
Why are you lying? You are throwing every piece of dirt to Mandela. Go to Google and search Mandela speaking IsiXhosa.
How could a ndebele from zimbabwe speak pure Xhosa without anyone noticing.Not even one event he is seen with any relatives.
@@xnxo7237Please lawo ngamanga. UMandele way’engowesiNdebeleni? Nah I doubt that very much.
Was he the real one??? 😅
Go research....Mandela did spoke Xhosa
Bring more please..... siyabonga ❤❤❤
Difficult to find credibility if the author cannot even spell Robben Island.
Every country deserves the government they voted for.
I always suspected that tata Mandela sold us.......who comes out of prison and have millions of dollars?
I love the OK's. It's funny and amazing at the same time, OK.
Viva MK✊🇿🇦
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@@---qb1bf 💩
Link to the full interview please
👉👉👉ua-cam.com/video/exGlhiEWgQg/v-deo.htmlsi=kspM5gUYucmGaV63
Zuma his people president
More like for himself, with the likes of Sebukwe Biko Tambo Hani the was no way he would've being Prez.
@@katoleeric4454 Your 20 likes are self generated! You should be advocating for you to be the people president.I am certain Zuma doesn't give a f@ck about you.
@@tshidisomoraka8861 This person is delusional,uloyiwe by loving Zuma so much. I say everyone who align with the ANC after the PAC breakaway is indeed a sellout myself included. In 2024 if you follow the old ANC or the new ANC called MKP you are not self respecting .Its time for detox
Zuma will steal Robben Island and take it to the KZN Coast 😮
Yep, so far he has been the only one left 😢
Why Mandela didn't correct that error of 27 years instead of 18..... He's no saint
Don't you find it strange that this Mandela hardly sang along to Xhosa song even amagwijo? He'd just dance along🤔
Guys, you are really out of your mind. What is your opinion then on Thabo Mbeki who hardly sang and danced? Amagwijo agqiba ukwenza nton kakade lawo?
He was old as hell he probably forgot em, due to an old deteriorating brain and all that
@@SimphiweNgcece😂
Athenkosi, please change your name. How about ANENTLONINGAYE?
@@nomagcisacawe3297 Looking at your name I can see why you want me to change mine, Imagine being named NOMAGCISA. do your research about this Mandela mna I was just highlighting just one little thing. This guy once went to Qunu and he didnt even know basic things about how they grew up, what did they like to do when they go swimming emlanjeni he couldnt answer so now if its really him why kuzobanzima uphendula ezozinto
Modern journalists, please watch this lady and take notes.
Bull shit amanga lawo wawukuphi wena wedwa
Is this truth real matter now in 2024? Can we revenge? Why are we still holding it back, when we have to tackle contemporary issues!
The British established 'separate development' (apartheid)
P.w.Botha gave mandela a choice : stop the terrorism or jail. He chosed jail.
No he did not choose jail, he was detained for not bowing to White supremasm and afrikanadom
@@bongani_menze😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No one will choose jail, unless it's a better choice...
Full documentary please
I am sick of all these people with their views. Try rather and improve the situation in SA
I know. But I find the fake Mahdela theory hilarious. South Africans are creative.
How can you fix something that was never fixed to begin with. You can't even nationalize means of production, then you want to tell us about moving on. Get the f*** outta here
Yea, evolution made a mistake giving ppl mouths.
I would to those who believe Mr Mandela ohhhh bayede mhlekazi🙌, sold us, so if they think they would have done than Nelson they still a chance to go fight to reclaim back our land n farms than speaking too much on social platforms. Bcz according to me Nelson did what was required for that moment. So if you think you are a hero enough stop talking do something
Yo thank you for this!
Where is the full video? Who is this guy?
His name is Ahmed Kathrada, south African freedom fighter. Check him out.
@@victorlavrado7402 Don't lie that is not Kahtrada
There is a light in this topic than the darkness SA has been in and is still in however the truth is always revealed after the horrendous damage😮
Its all shite !!!...this greed for wealth is all for nothing as you can't take it with you when the grim reaper taps you on the shoulder.
Why was this truth not discussed when Mandela was alive?
We South Africans don't recognize Mandela
Speak for yourself, silwanyana
@@nomagcisacawe3297
Cha mama don't reply for everyone either.
@@SpheMoholo I replied for myself
@@nomagcisacawe3297
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You are not naughty
Powerful ❤
I felt it when she touched on how the legendary Robert Mangaliso Sobukwe has been written and erased out of South African political history. But he isn't the only one, hundreds and possibily thousands of brilliant, loyal revolutionaries have been systematically blacked-out from the memory of future generations of this once troubled land.
Where can I get the full interview?
Bitter individual
Haai sana the analysis on Ugininda vs Mangena ya ma colours joweee i am finished
i'am Congolese, my late father told me Mr Nelson Mandela didn't spend 27years in Prison, Mr Nelson Mandela was under house arrest in the 80s.
He told you the truth. Mandela was a spy
Haibo, and it was not corrected 😮😅
He was at Pollsmoor prison, not a house
Do u trust your father?
@@CeasarMatondo I agree with him
The biggest enemy of black are their biggest heroes, but they won't believe it anyways
The truth hurts. it's not satisfying
Spot on.