The only difference you might see between these three oils is perhaps a very slight difference in color, and that they will harden at different rates. LInseed oil polymerizes the fastest probably followed by tung oil and walnut oil will be the slowest to harden up. None of these provide a very durable finish and any finish containing shellac will be susceptible to water stains.
I’m confused?if you dissolve shellac with denatured alcohol do you just add oil to that mix to make OB shine juice.?I don’t have that bulls eye stuff is all
Jon, Thank you for your question. The canned shellac is already diluted with denatured alcohol (I think it might be a 2lb cut). Adding more denatured alcohol dilutes it further. I have started using shellac flakes to make my own mix and become less fussy about the volume of each ingredient being exact. Of course being loose the measurements can lead to inconstant results , I find sometimes it want the mix a bit thinner or thicker depending on how much the wood absorbs. So yes, you can definitely use your own shellac mixture.
You asked for feedback. Great experiment, great idea. I’m glad I found your video. Suggestion for improvement. 5 of the 9 min video was preparing the blank for the experiment didn’t add anything.
Thank you for your comments, I am new to both woodturning and youtube videos. I did think having seen how I prepared the blank could be of use (i.e. did I sand it enough before applying a finish). Your point is taken. Thanks again.
Rick, There Has been no noticeable change, I think my next step will be to try to introduce some wear to the different finishes to see if they are different.
get rid of them scrapers ,get proper turning tools , then sanding won't take so long ,start at 180 or 240 grit sandpaper instead of 40,,.Regards Alf , stay safe
Thank you for your comment. It might be nice to have some quality traditional tools. I don't. There is not only the expense of the tools, there is also the expense of a low speed grinder and a sharping jig system. Maybe someday.
@@biowolfman Thank you for your comment. I do have access to a Oxyacetylene, maybe I should learn to use one. The channel is called Ted Learns after all.
I am using both carbide and traditional tools. With my carbide I can get a smooth finish similar to my skew. If you turn your carbide to a 45 degree angle on the piece and move slowly, you get a very smooth surface.
Nothing wrong with carbide tools at all. The negative rake scraper insert or a traditional negative rake scraper can help get a fine finish, that will decrease sanding time . There is a lot of unwarranted prejudice against carbide tools. Only comment is to cut on the centerlines. Keeping tool level. I tape a line level to my tool.( small cheap plastic bit about 1.5 inches long).Finish with sanding sealer before apply OB shine juice or other friction finishes. Like the effects of these alternates.
Thank yo for your comments. I agree with your statement about 'nothing wrong with carbide tools'. I have often wondered when I see wood turners disparage use of carbide tools (or their users), how their use is any different than a HSS scraper used to finish the inside of a bowl for example. The way I am starting to look at it is the same way I look at hunting for example. It is generally easier to take game with a firearm than with a bow. There are differences in skill set. Using one skill set to accomplish a task does not diminish the skill set of another tool. Even within archery there different skills are needed for use of a compound bow vs a re-curve bow. There can be a felling of accomplishment by learning to use 'traditional lathe tools' just for the sake of learning the skill. There will always be someone more skilled at any given task. When it is claimed that carbide tools are not 'real' woodturning tools, I never see those same people say 'real woodturning can only be done using a treadle lathe. I
The only difference you might see between these three oils is perhaps a very slight difference in color, and that they will harden at different rates. LInseed oil polymerizes the fastest probably followed by tung oil and walnut oil will be the slowest to harden up. None of these provide a very durable finish and any finish containing shellac will be susceptible to water stains.
The oils are used as a _lubricant._ The _shellac_ is what polymerizes.
I use small squeeze bottles from the art supply store for my shine juice
Sound like a good idea to reduce loss.
I'm trying to find an alternative to the denatured alcohol, as I can no longer purchase it in my state.
sorry, I don't have an answer to your question.
I use methyl hydrate. Seems to work the same.
I’m confused?if you dissolve shellac with denatured alcohol do you just add oil to that mix to make OB shine juice.?I don’t have that bulls eye stuff is all
Jon,
Thank you for your question.
The canned shellac is already diluted with denatured alcohol (I think it might be a 2lb cut). Adding more denatured alcohol dilutes it further.
I have started using shellac flakes to make my own mix and become less fussy about the volume of each ingredient being exact. Of course being loose the measurements can lead to inconstant results , I find sometimes it want the mix a bit thinner or thicker depending on how much the wood absorbs.
So yes, you can definitely use your own shellac mixture.
@@TedLearns ahh I see thank you I get it now 😁👍🏻
You asked for feedback. Great experiment, great idea. I’m glad I found your video. Suggestion for improvement. 5 of the 9 min video was preparing the blank for the experiment didn’t add anything.
Thank you for your comments, I am new to both woodturning and youtube videos. I did think having seen how I prepared the blank could be of use (i.e. did I sand it enough before applying a finish). Your point is taken.
Thanks again.
Phones Jimmy Clewes get some lessons and some tools learn to turn and stay the hell away from UA-cam until you do yours J Steven Anderson Scotland
Good video, Ted! Any different results after aging for a few days?
Rick,
There Has been no noticeable change, I think my next step will be to try to introduce some wear to the different finishes to see if they are different.
Looks like it’s been at least a year. How did the finishes hold up?
get rid of them scrapers ,get proper turning tools , then sanding won't take so long ,start at 180 or 240 grit sandpaper instead of 40,,.Regards Alf , stay safe
Thank you for your comment.
It might be nice to have some quality traditional tools. I don't. There is not only the expense of the tools, there is also the expense of a low speed grinder and a sharping jig system.
Maybe someday.
@@TedLearns You can make your own. Invest in acetalene/oxygen tourch kit and you can just about forge anything.
@@biowolfman Thank you for your comment. I do have access to a Oxyacetylene, maybe I should learn to use one. The channel is called Ted Learns after all.
I am using both carbide and traditional tools. With my carbide I can get a smooth finish similar to my skew. If you turn your carbide to a 45 degree angle on the piece and move slowly, you get a very smooth surface.
Nothing wrong with carbide tools at all. The negative rake scraper insert or a traditional negative rake scraper can help get a fine finish, that will decrease sanding time . There is a lot of unwarranted prejudice against carbide tools. Only comment is to cut on the centerlines. Keeping tool level. I tape a line level to my tool.( small cheap plastic bit about 1.5 inches long).Finish with sanding sealer before apply OB shine juice or other friction finishes. Like the effects of these alternates.
Thank yo for your comments. I agree with your statement about 'nothing wrong with carbide tools'. I have often wondered when I see wood turners disparage use of carbide tools (or their users), how their use is any different than a HSS scraper used to finish the inside of a bowl for example.
The way I am starting to look at it is the same way I look at hunting for example. It is generally easier to take game with a firearm than with a bow. There are differences in skill set. Using one skill set to accomplish a task does not diminish the skill set of another tool. Even within archery there different skills are needed for use of a compound bow vs a re-curve bow.
There can be a felling of accomplishment by learning to use 'traditional lathe tools' just for the sake of learning the skill. There will always be someone more skilled at any given task. When it is claimed that carbide tools are not 'real' woodturning tools, I never see those same people say 'real woodturning can only be done using a treadle lathe.
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Oh my what can it be?
It is just a cylinder of oak on which I tested variations of OB Shine juice finish using different oils. I think you will enjoy the next video more.