The only thing missing was a comparison with going with ethernet. Perhaps the cost of each adapter plus a spool of ethernet and connectors. It is definitely WAY cheaper, but easier to sell it to a board if we can show numbers. I think a 500ft spool of Cat6 can be had for like $50-$60, a bunch of connectors can be had for $20, and then each set of adapters is is like $25. So $210 using ethernet vs. $420 for straight RS232. Same result... Plus those Cat6 cables can be used for tons of other things, RS232 really can't. Oops, I ended up doing the math.
Thank you for the quicks reply, but i only see it working with USB cameras I do have two ptz usb cameras, but usually use HDMI ptz cameras with rd232 joystick controller.
Great Video AJ! I never thought about using CAT6 and getting a RJ45 adapter for our cameras. We have 2 PTZ cameras and we are looking to get them further away from the booth. The CAT6 costs are way less than a 100' HDMI. Another UA-camr with a church ministry talked about a SMTAV 30X optical that is the same thing as a PTZ for almost half the cost. Have you run into or used the SMTAV?
Hi, I like to connect my PTZOPTICS cameras (3 total) to my PTZOptics joystick controller for shows with no network or internet. Can I use your rs232 setup to have my cameras work with the controller with no network?
Thanks. You’re the best. One quick question, is there a device out there that instead of me rs232 daisy chaining from one camera to the next, is there a non network way to bring all the cameras cable run to a central device and then connect that device to the joystick controller? Thanks again.
Hi AJ, thanks for all of your videos. do you know of a way for the viewers to be able to control the camera from, let's say a custom webpage, remotely. Could there be a que where a person was given a certain amount of time to have control of the camera, for example. Thank you and have a great day.
Quick question. Is 13ft too long of a pole mount to use for a ptz camera..our church has a high ceiling that is 11-13ft from where we would like to place the ptz camera
Hi AJ. Thank you for the video. I can't get the joystick to move the camera. Everything is all set and I can see the video feed from the ptz application and OSD. Any thoughts on what I need to DuddlecamHD to recognize the camera?
My man great video… Do you have a different firmware on your cam? I can not get the audio or the “Ai” to disappear. Appreciate you. Have a good day. I just realized this is the wrong video. Obviously I’m referring to your video on the Panasonic camcorder having a clean HDMI feed
Hi, I bought 2x SMTAV PTZ after your test. Now I have problems to find the 2nd camera that is connected to the PTZ View controller via LAN, not RS232. Do you have to set more than the different IP address in the settings for the camera?
Hi there. I'm from North Carolina at “Adiss Hiwot Ethiopian Evangelical church” and I have an issue with the PTZ camera to connect NDI. Would you please help me if have time? We can talk with zoom.
@@AJaytheCEO like two 250-300 ft runs...thinking fiber for signal and cat for control...sound good?? Nice work BTW...I seem to be going back to your video's more that the others available
SMTAV PTZ CAMERA One more question do you know if this camera can be ceiling mounted? Do the camera can be screwed from bottom (am going to use a mount boom arm 40inch down I know sounds crazy is just a customized spot Thanks
Just curious, is there any noticeable lag or delay between controlling the cameras over IP vs RS232c or RS422/485? I would assume IP control would be delayed more than direct serial connection, but that maybe thinking old school. Sorry, don't have much experience with PTZ cams.
Do you have a diagram of this daisy chain setup? The first bit of Cat6 cables you connected between the cameras, were they going to the OUT’s of each of the converter cables? And then only 1 Cat6 needed to go to the IN of one of the converter cables and connected to switch?
With the rs232 converters I went from the joystick to the in of the first camera and then the out from that camera into the in of the next. Then rinse and repeat
Hello thx for the video. I was curious as to why you connected the cameras to ethernet too? Is that needed or can I just connect the in and out dongles?
@@AJaytheCEO ok so I don't necessarily need it if I can setup through the joystick screen and just plug in? If I did use ethernet. You had that in a poe switch?
Hi. I have a Marshall camera, not an IP CAM, and a Fomako IP address, Cam already with an IP address. I'm using a HuddleCam controller and connected the cameras using your daisy chain (Connected in serial) and am able to move one camera. Each cam has its visca id, either 1 or 2, but only one moves and when trying to move 2 it won't move. Please help. I've been rattling my brain up. Called Fomako, they want me to buy knew cam to replace the marshall and want me to buy fomako controller too $$$... talked to huddlecam support and told me to call fomako. What am I doing wrong, please?
If all the ids are unique and you are using visca it should work. Make sure on the Fomako you go to the menu via remote and change the settings to parallel under communication menu I believe
@AJaytheCEO i did look for a "comunication" option to change to serial so it can comunicate on the chain, but none of the cameras offer that choice. Each Cam has its ID #1 and #2.
Connect the camera and Mac to the same network, change ip to one near the ptz default and add 1 to the last number. Then navigate to the ptz in any browser
Now u r just spoiling us! 😁 Glad it's a holiday today... Can't think of a better way to spend it!
Heading out of town so won't be able to do videos like this until next week when I get back.
@@AJaytheCEO you'll probably find a way and then make a tutorial about it... 😉
Thanks AJ this was great!!
The only thing missing was a comparison with going with ethernet. Perhaps the cost of each adapter plus a spool of ethernet and connectors. It is definitely WAY cheaper, but easier to sell it to a board if we can show numbers. I think a 500ft spool of Cat6 can be had for like $50-$60, a bunch of connectors can be had for $20, and then each set of adapters is is like $25. So $210 using ethernet vs. $420 for straight RS232. Same result... Plus those Cat6 cables can be used for tons of other things, RS232 really can't.
Oops, I ended up doing the math.
Thank you for the quicks reply, but i only see it working with USB cameras I do have two ptz usb cameras, but usually use HDMI ptz cameras with rd232 joystick controller.
Well doen vidoe, but i could not find what app you are using on the computer
It is the ptzoptics app
Great Video AJ! I never thought about using CAT6 and getting a RJ45 adapter for our cameras. We have 2 PTZ cameras and we are looking to get them further away from the booth. The CAT6 costs are way less than a 100' HDMI. Another UA-camr with a church ministry talked about a SMTAV 30X optical that is the same thing as a PTZ for almost half the cost. Have you run into or used the SMTAV?
Yes I have. The SMTAV PTZ is what I have paired with our PTZOptics at my home church.
Hi, I like to connect my PTZOPTICS cameras (3 total) to my PTZOptics joystick controller for shows with no network or internet. Can I use your rs232 setup to have my cameras work with the controller with no network?
yes
Thanks. You’re the best. One quick question, is there a device out there that instead of me rs232 daisy chaining from one camera to the next, is there a non network way to bring all the cameras cable run to a central device and then connect that device to the joystick controller? Thanks again.
Can you run an RS232 from the ptz controller to the first camera, then RS485 from camera to camera?
No you cannot
Thanks for this lovely video, where do you connect from to enable you configure with the PTZ optics app from your pc. thanks
Hi AJ, thanks for all of your videos. do you know of a way for the viewers to be able to control the camera from, let's say a custom webpage, remotely. Could there be a que where a person was given a certain amount of time to have control of the camera, for example. Thank you and have a great day.
You could maybe place the camera on the dmv and embed controls to a webpage but I am not sure about the queue control
Quick question. Is 13ft too long of a pole mount to use for a ptz camera..our church has a high ceiling that is 11-13ft from where we would like to place the ptz camera
No that should be fine
@@AJaytheCEO Ok. Thanks
Hi AJ. Thank you for the video. I can't get the joystick to move the camera. Everything is all set and I can see the video feed from the ptz application and OSD. Any thoughts on what I need to DuddlecamHD to recognize the camera?
Can you confirm that each camera has a different Cam ID and that the camera is set to serial on each camera?
@@AJaytheCEO yeah, that was it. Thank you!
My man great video… Do you have a different firmware on your cam? I can not get the audio or the “Ai” to disappear. Appreciate you. Have a good day.
I just realized this is the wrong video. Obviously I’m referring to your video on the Panasonic camcorder having a clean HDMI feed
Is there a RS485 to Ethernet adapter?
Yes: amzn.to/3hXxIEe
Hi,
I bought 2x SMTAV PTZ after your test. Now I have problems to find the 2nd camera that is connected to the PTZ View controller via LAN, not RS232.
Do you have to set more than the different IP address in the settings for the camera?
Use the PTZOptics setup app
Hi there. I'm from North Carolina at “Adiss Hiwot Ethiopian Evangelical church” and I have an issue with the PTZ camera to connect NDI. Would you please help me if have time? We can talk with zoom.
Please stop a zoom consultation on my website or email me your question at questions@ajayholmes.com
I am planning PTZ cameras in my church. Can't I use Cat 6for camera control and fiber for video signal?
Yes you can. That is how I recently at up epworth and mt pleasant
@@AJaytheCEO like two 250-300 ft runs...thinking fiber for signal and cat for control...sound good?? Nice work BTW...I seem to be going back to your video's more that the others available
@@bobvelazquez2638 that would work and thanks
RJ45 what cable between cameras ?
Any normal ethernet cable or have to be a specific one? Or one you recommend
Thank you for your video it help me
I'm just using normal standard cat6 cable
@@AJaytheCEO awesome thanks!!
SMTAV PTZ CAMERA One more question do you know if this camera can be ceiling mounted? Do the camera can be screwed from bottom (am going to use a mount boom arm 40inch down
I know sounds crazy is just a customized spot
Thanks
@@oscarsantamaria6384 yes it can be ceiling mounted but you need to purchase that mount at it does not come with one
Just curious, is there any noticeable lag or delay between controlling the cameras over IP vs RS232c or RS422/485? I would assume IP control would be delayed more than direct serial connection, but that maybe thinking old school. Sorry, don't have much experience with PTZ cams.
No noticeable difference
@@AJaytheCEO Awesome. Great info. Thanks.
I have 3 old Sony evi-d70 with rca out can this be daisy chain too? and be controlled with huddlecam? (Planing to add hdmi adapters to atem mini pro)
@@oscarsantamaria6384 if they have rs232 connectors and run visca protocol they should
@@AJaytheCEO thanks
Video is great. Everything works just like you said but I’m having trouble with OBS recognizing the cameras any suggestions?
What are you using for a calorie device?
Do you have a diagram of this daisy chain setup? The first bit of Cat6 cables you connected between the cameras, were they going to the OUT’s of each of the converter cables? And then only 1 Cat6 needed to go to the IN of one of the converter cables and connected to switch?
With the rs232 converters I went from the joystick to the in of the first camera and then the out from that camera into the in of the next. Then rinse and repeat
@@AJaytheCEO thank you so much for the quick response. Much appreciated.
Hello thx for the video. I was curious as to why you connected the cameras to ethernet too? Is that needed or can I just connect the in and out dongles?
The Ethernet gives it power and allows you to access the web interface to modify the camera without needing only the remote
@@AJaytheCEO ok so I don't necessarily need it if I can setup through the joystick screen and just plug in? If I did use ethernet. You had that in a poe switch?
Yes Ethernet also provides power
Hi AJ can you use the joystick to set up the camera address without pc?
Yes you can through the menu on the camera with the remote
Hi. I have a Marshall camera, not an IP CAM, and a Fomako IP address, Cam already with an IP address. I'm using a HuddleCam controller and connected the cameras using your daisy chain (Connected in serial) and am able to move one camera. Each cam has its visca id, either 1 or 2, but only one moves and when trying to move 2 it won't move. Please help. I've been rattling my brain up. Called Fomako, they want me to buy knew cam to replace the marshall and want me to buy fomako controller too $$$... talked to huddlecam support and told me to call fomako. What am I doing wrong, please?
If all the ids are unique and you are using visca it should work. Make sure on the Fomako you go to the menu via remote and change the settings to parallel under communication menu I believe
@AJaytheCEO i did look for a "comunication" option to change to serial so it can comunicate on the chain, but none of the cameras offer that choice. Each Cam has its ID #1 and #2.
How can set the ip address fotomako ptz for Mac computer
Im using hdmi connection
Connect the camera and Mac to the same network, change ip to one near the ptz default and add 1 to the last number. Then navigate to the ptz in any browser
Do have a video showing how to do this or could recommend one
No detail shoot..
Huh?