Jordan Peterson: Chaos and the Orienting Response.
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2012
- This is a fascinating talk given by Jordan Peterson, a University of Toronto Psychologist. He discusses the metaphysics underlying both religious narrative and human cognition. I believe this talk was given at the Templeton Foundation around the year 2000. It took a lot of work to get this uploaded, and was eventually transferred from google video to youtube.
For the accompanying slides, go to this page:
web.archive.org/web/200402131...
(though I think it may only load properly in internet explorer)
Speaker: Jordan Peterson
Full Title: Chaos and the Orienting Response: A neuropsychologically predicated model of why you might be Christ.
Give the man a Nobel Prize or something. Learning so much about the human condition it's insane. I disregarded religion like an arrogant prick for so long believing I knew it all. Idiot. Finally starting to understanding true meaning, purpose and courage. I'm 45 but only now understand what it means to be a man. Be my own hero. Face the dragon and live life. Thank you so much Jordan. Eyes are opening by understanding living on the tightrope between Caos and Cosmos..
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Nobel Prizes usually aren't given for people who deserve them.
Do you want to give this rambling crank Nobel prize? For what? I would love to see evidence for his statements. Seriously I would love to see any evidence for one thing that he says that even resembles reality. I love the dead eyed look on his face as he talks. It’s basically just stream of consciousness nonsense. It’s small wonder that someone had to fight for him to get the position at the University of Toronto because Peterson couldn’t get it on his own merits.
@@not_emerald I would love to know why you think Jordan Peterson deserves the Nobel prize?
Peterson the Grey, before his death and rebirth as Peterson the White after battle with balrog C-16
I assume no one has commented further because they had no idea as to what c16 was. Btw my gender is turtle, and its hate speech to not recognize and address me as such...
Do you wanna know what I think is hilarious? Is that C 16 if you actually bother to read the bill has nothing to do with compelled or forced speech. It just protects trans people from discrimination. That’s it.
Not one single person has been arrested in Canada for not using preferred pronouns. Not one. So essentially what this means is that Peterson either did not read bill 16, which is actually probable given that he didn’t even bother to read any Marxist theory when he debated an actual Marxist philosopher, I should say more accurately Hegelian philosopher.
So I think, suffice to say, a conclusion that I can draw is that Jordan Peterson? He might very well be just a very verbose crank.
😂
@@baddreams3850 but here’s the thing… Not one single person was imprisoned or even remotely charged with a crime for not addressing a trans person by their preferred pronouns. According to Peterson… That was an evitable. But here we are almost 8 years later. Nothing. Is it perhaps possible that Peterson was… Incorrect?
@@theQuestion626Reread your preposterous comment with it’s spectacularly anti-factual content.
Reread it with a straight face.
In normal life, Jordan is a typical man. A family man. He keeps his head down, and does his work. He works faithfully at the gulag, but is always hoping for more...
When he speaks, however, he is a revolutionary. His psyche is set on fire. Wisdom screams out of him. He is possessed by the spirit of the logos, and rises up to something beyond human, to something divine. The creative power flows through him.
The speech ends. Everyone claps. He slowly returns to earth. He takes his seat, exhausted.
👌👌👌
You could have been talking about Christ and I would not have known the difference. His courage to take upon him his mantle, it is a light to the world. His recent work with the Bible has been truly excellent. What he's really saying is we need a bunch of Jordan Peterson's
Forgive me Jordan Peterson is nothing but barely recovering alcoholic, a barely recovered benzodiazepine addict, and basically a charlatan that speaks rather deceptively and relies upon his exploitation of the easily fooled in order to have some validation for his nonsensical arguments.
He is not some tortured mind. He’s a mentally unwell man. And the funniest part about him is that he didn’t get his position at the University of Toronto because he was good at his job. He only got it because someone else fight for his appointment. He’s not famous for any kind of contribution to psychology. He’s only famous because he lied about federal bill.
He is a crank..
There's a greater density in this talk compared to some of the more recent versions and I love every minute of it.
that's a nice way of putting it, and I feel exactly the same way.
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He's getting old.
@@GrubKiller436 As do you, and me.
Would you be happy to send him back to speaking to empty chairs?
@@spacediver99 how is there any density to any of the bullshit that Peterson is saying? And I say that word bullshit with great brevity because that’s exactly what he’s doing… He is bullshitting.
There's something comfy about watching Peterson changing the acetate on the overhead projector, takes me back to before smart boards where a thing.
One of the finest speeches/presentations I have ever seen him give (online). Surprised it has only 5,300 views. It's a very concise, coherent, and "to the point" presentation of basically everything Jordan Peterson knows and believes. Brilliant!
Yep, it's a wonderful articulation.
Raise your curiosity toward the views mechanics. - that'll answer your question.
this tickles the mind in most satisfactory of ways
Why does it “tickle the mind“?
I've been listening to JPs earlier lectures lately and I still can't get enough! So satisfying I must say.
Thank you for the walk on the edge of chaos and order! Beautiful.
I love you JBP
My god this is incredible, he's on fire! thank you for uploading. Just booked my ticket to see him in November and I'm half-way through Maps of Meaning. I'm due to start an English PhD in January and I'm hoping that between JBP and Iain McGilchrist (whom you should all check out if you're interested as to where Peterson gets some of his ideas) they can keep me on the path of Dao! Best wishes to you all
Tao* (pronounced with a D spelled with a T) :)
This is an amazing lecture!
How this guy gets cancelled is beyond me. He's a treasure.
I love how radical leftists always accuse Jordan Peterson of being a "nazi" and a "transphobe" and all that crap, and yet there isn't a single shred of evidence for that in any of his videos.
Wow I 😮 just got here and I'm amazed.
Thanks a lot ❤
7:15 This part is amazing
Thanks alot for this!
You're most welcome!
How can I show a mind exploding? His words are so academic, yet as blue collar as I am I profoundly understand his words. I Hear You. I don't just hear you but ok hear the words. Am I alone?
Amazing 👏🏼
Fantastic lecture, though it's becoming difficult to find newer lectures he has done.
I imagine you'll find it a tad easier nowadays.
And I now imagine you'll find it infinitely easier.
Hot damn, some Young Jordan that I haven't yet seen.
His hand gestures are the same! It's amazing!
You do realize why he wiggles his fingers and waves his hands do you not? He does this because it’s a business school training tactic. It’s meant, as odd as it may seem, to distract the person who is listening to what you were saying. It’s meant to seem that what you were saying is somehow relevant. And nothing Peterson says here is relevant. Peterson is a crank. That is exactly why he is not famous for his psychological research. He is not famous for his work as a professor. He isn’t even famous for his self-help bullshit.
Do you know why he is famous?
Because he lied about Bill C 16.
That’s it.
@@theQuestion626 lol I didn't say anything about what Dr. Peterson said. You will probably disregard this, but I think that nobody believes in contradictions. People believe in lies because there is truth mixed in them. The point is to separate out the truth. So one can even learn from a crank by paying attention. And cranks may not have much truth, but they may just have some truth that nobody else has managed to find.
@@ethanjensen7967 lol you mentioned his hand gestures. I commented upon them. I didn’t make any kind of accusation against you. So…
“But I think nobody believes in contradictions...”
Really? How do you arrive at this conclusion
“People believe in lies...”
That is very true. Peterson does this often with his nonsense.
“The point is separate out the truth.”
Very true and an accurate point.
“So one can even learn from a crank....”
Seems to me you didn’t learn much from this crank given that you’re giving a rather nebulous defense of this particular crank. Thereby contradicting your own argument.
@@theQuestion626 I think you missed what I said earlier. I'm not defending him. I don't really take sides. I'm saying you can still learn from someone misguided. Pythagoras was in many ways a 'crank', but his foundational work on geometry and number theory remains.
Edit: to clear something up, what I mean by contradiction is not contradictory or paradoxical beliefs, but 'purer' contradictions such as "P and not P" for some statement P, nestled within conflicting beliefs
@@ethanjensen7967 “I don’t really take sides”
I’m not biting. You’re taking his side. And then you’re weaving this little web of semantics to justify you’re taking a side while pretending you are taking a side.
Are you comparing Peterson to Pythagoras? Here’s the thing… Pythagoras was proven correct. Peterson has yet to be proven correct about anything that he says. Do you want to know something interesting? His entire nonsense about Bill C 16 has yet to bear fruit. Not one single person has been imprisoned for falsely addressing a trans individual by their preferred pronouns. That was literally the core of his entire argument about that nonsense.
Do you want to start this over?
Young Jordan!
This guy's work will be studied to death for many years to come... Freudian-like proportions....whether you agree with him or not, he'll be in the history books
I agreeeee
he was a great speaker back then but soo much better now..he used "uh and um" alot more...still brilliant
Woah. Where did you find this?
Wow!!
is this Jerry Seinfeld
Yes Brandon.
Funnier
Win
Bow bow chicka bwowm bop bop
Fantastic lecture. I think Kali is feasting at the moment 😞
Before we learned to point the camera at the slides as well.
If you don’t sacrifice the thing you love best there is no possibility of forward movement.
He says basically the same things as in his lectures and recent tools and I find it clearer here
my crush prof
Peterson may have saved the world from nuclear catastrophe in the 1980s. This could be one of the many things he is remembered for thousands od years from now.
In his twitter feed today JBP said this about this specific video: "Why you might be Christ: a neuropsychological Perspective… The most outrageous title I ever Dared Offer At a scientific conference." Does anyone know specifically why he posted the link for this video...or why he described it this way (nowhere in the title is 'Christ' mentioned)?
In the opening of the talk he said something about that other title. Maybe he uses it in his overhead slides. He makes a conclusion that comes back to that thesis in the end. I don't have any idea why he might have posted the link now. It's a very interesting talk though.
Jordan peterson likes to create specific analogies and he repeats them often
Indeed many will wonder! How is this and that? Just finds the commands rightful place. Finding the rightful place given to fills. Likewise Hiers will say come out from all thy hiding places! For all WHO hides. Hides belongs! Heirs with sincere tears! Who among? Have made the True Owner stranger unto my OWN upon all dry grounds nor the world? Hold still...LET! According to their own WILL TO COME OUT INSTEAD OF HIDING FROM WHO? Gather who God of life for the living will draws near. HIERS WILL SAY WILL BE KEPT!
Dang JP is young here
I find him appealing than his current lectures
True. He seemed to be more original back then...
😏
He played the biggest part of those who helped set me at liberty the right way. Rip jp
He's still alive, he's home now, and hopefully he'll get progressively better and fully recover at last
He gets older fast than normal.my dad is older than him and look younger and stronger than him now.
Is your dad a genius with the world on his shoulders
The stresses that JP has lived through would take a gigantic toll on any person physically and psychologically, especially the last 7 years. Luckily, he didn't die. He has also managed to lose weight and keep it off.