Funnily enough, it couldn't have been made today. Because the designer of the gun was a convict for a felony conviction and was in prison while designing it.
@@moblinmajorgeneral He was a part, but he wasn't the driving force behind it. Ian has a pretty interesting vid on the adoption of the carbine, it's well worth a watch.
It's true! I had mine at a commercial range once, and the only other person there was a young guy running in his brand new fancy somethingorother (I want to say it was one of the civilian SCAR variants, but I don't remember for sure what he said it was, and all these newfangled brown flashlighty rifles look alike to me). When he saw me setting up, he came over all excited. "Dude! Is that an M1 Carbine?! Where'd you get it? Is it real?" (I'm still not sure what he meant by that last part. I mean, it obviously wasn't an Airsoft gun...) It kind of took the shine off a little bit when my magazine fell apart on me (the floorplate popped off, causing it to shoot the spring across the room and vomit rounds all over the floor), but hey, that wasn't the rifle's fault. Those 30-round M2 magazines have always been the weak link. :)
@@ZGryphon By "Is it real?", I think the guy meant, "Is it a carbine manufactured by a U.S. government contractor?" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine#Military_contractors
@Assault Paperclip Just buy an Auto Ordinance M1 Carbine. They are the cheapest reproduction carbines on the market, will shoot to within US Army standards of WWII and are totally reliable, taking every type of carbine ammo out there without fail. The same can't be said for the more expensive carbines built by Inland and Fulton which while more accurate, are far more picky with ammo.
@@TheCrusher72 You wouldn't, it has nothing to do with firing guns :D But if you image search "squatting slavs", you'll understand immediately what Samwise meant :D
The M1 carbine has long been a favorite of mine. I love the concept behind it, to be a replacement for a pistol. What's amazing is the concept survived the development process without requirements for a little more power, a little more range, and some more applications, ratcheting up until it was almost as large and heavy as the Garand.
Coulda done w/ a little more power; no reason they couldn't have taken a small wt. penalty so they could have at least run the ammo at full 30-06 pressures; then it would truly been medium power & in the M2 config, would have rivaled the STG-44 for first true assault rifle crown...
As an Australian who grew up in the remote tropics, our Underwood .30 Carbine was almost always my go to scrub gun. Occasionally I'd take a .44WCF 1896 but the M1 was brilliant in thick jungle.
I've got an old, commercial, Universal example. It's picky about magazines. Recently bought a Fulton Armory gun which runs with any mag I stick into it. Son-in law's Kahr/Auto Ordnance is reliable so far but he only runs hardball through it.
@@shooter2055 The Kahr/Auto Ordnance is such a true reproduction that actual military surplus M2 carbine trigger and action parts will fit and function! (I do not work for Kahr)
If I was forced to choose my favorite rifle, it would have to be the M1 Carbine. I fell instantly in love the first time shooting and I’ve never stopped feeling the same.
If I was an American WW2 combatant, and could choose my own weapon, this would be my choice, a good balance of weight, capacity and stopping power. I really like the BAR but the 99% of the time your not fighting its a lot of weight, and the standard M1 is a little too big. I like the idea of a Thompson but the range would be an issue. But I'm English so I'd most likely be equipped with Brent, Sten or SMLE.
Ian, a scoreboard might help my goldfish memory'd brain place this run in context with the other PCCs you've shot. If memory serves correctly, your red dotted MP5 run was 75ish or so seconds?
Definitely would be appreciated. For the time being: Calico Liberty 100 Carbine w/ red-dot: 55.26 SP-5 w/ red-dot: 66.10 CMMG w/ red-dot: 76.86 KP9 w/ red-dot: 87.95 M1 Carbine w/ iron sights: 120.86 Hotchkiss Universal w/ iron sights: 150, out of ammo, 10 targets left standing.
I've said it before, I think the carbine is perhaps the best firearm to transition new shooters from shooting 22lr to shooting centerfire, full power cartridges. It's in the sweet spot of "I'm getting serious now" + "This doesn't scare me."
Man, I like the M1 Carbine. The intentional design, the look, the size and weight all appeal to me. If the reproductions weren't so expensive I'd probably already have one!
@@edwardm6231 I think he was being sarcastic. About 30 years ago my Korean War veteran father and I tested an M1 carbine against several targets including a wet mattress. It sailed right through all of them. My father's comment about the soldiers who complained that it didn't penetrate North Korean winter coats was, "I knew those dumb bastards were just missing." Admittedly, it will not hit with the authority of the M1 rifle and is probably less likely to immediately incapacitate the enemy but it will serve well for its intended purpose.
@@itsapittie Also, if they were using M2 carbines on full auto, the light weight and semi-pistol grip stock might have been an issue. Those things are supposed to be surprisingly difficult to control, especially for shooters who aren't very experienced with full auto. That's the main reason they removed the select-fire mode from the original M1 carbine specification in the first place.
Glad to see you using the M1 Carbine like this and I enjoyed your other video on it as well. I have always loved the M1 and always thought it was a great weapon. The original pistol caliber carbine can still get the job done!
We used to run a carbine match at our club probably 25 years ago. And by carbine I mean M1Carbine. Course of fire was between a pistol course and military rifle. Lots of fun!
I used my utility company work truck to help an old man with a flat tire and he tried to give me an m1 carbine and I told him I’d call him and make a fair offer but that I couldn’t take it. I called and he said his sons didn’t want him to sell it. I now always carry quick cash
@@MrJonrocker Nobody now is building them to .mil acceptance standards... There is absolutely no excuse that modern production can't measure up! But again, most of the problems come back to the magazines, so anyone bent on making carbine repops needs to assume control & responsibility for producing a better magazine to go along with it...
Being a Brit. I've only had chance to use the M1 carbine a couple of times, but it's a great little weapon. Simple, lightweight and very handy, it's easy to see why the were popular with British special forces during WW2 and as a personal defence weapon into the 1950s. A 30rd mag dump from an M2 is on my gun bucket list.
The M1 carbine is the original close quarters combat rifle. The power of a .357 magnum, good to 200 yards if you need it, and much easier to aim than a handgun. Big fan here.
Yes! Even if its just some graphics and discussion, this would awesome. As Ian has said before, reliable mags are the issue. But still, what would the come up with? A mini FAMAS? A modular platform, a la an AR?
My main problem with PCCs is the fact other than the 10mm the extra heft doesn't really buy you anything in hitting power or trajectory. Yes you can be more accurate, but it is still pistol power. At least the 30 Cal carbine is at a magnum level of power and much flatter shooting, and the Carbine is more compact than an AR platform. The Blackout does hit harder, but the AR platform makes the rifle longer and heavier and no good folding stock option. An M1 with a folding stock makes for a very lightweight, compact PDW and has no NFA problems.
The thing is, unless you count the M3 (which exists purely because the limitations of the night sight made it a waste of time to put it on anything heavier and with a longer effective range), the M1 platform never really departed from its original design intent to start with.
If you want a good carbine magazine (that doesn't work at first), look for Korean RWB carbine mags. They are made of heavier gauge steel, so once you 'tweak' the feed lips with some needle-nose pliers they stay tweaked. You're going to tweak your mags anyway, even GI mags, and the problem is always keeping them tweaked when the steel is so flimsy. RWB stands for Red, White and Blue and are easy to find and dirt cheap.
@El Guapo mas macho Yeah, and they'll keep working until you drop them or repeated use weakens the thin steel lips. The original intent was that the mags would be disposable like the 'C' clips for Garands. The army did away with that idea almost immediately but never went back and changed the specs to use heavier gauge steel.
Debatable, because the 1903 is too long: by definition, carbines are shorter than the standard issue rifle they are used alongside. But a case can be made that since the 1903 was standardized as a "one length does all" short rifle, the reduction in "caliber" (power) by using the Pedersen in it would make it a carbine. So I thumbs-upped your comment even tho' this reply is made somewhat in refutation.
@@Kraenesk .44-40 and .38-40 were designed as rifle rounds too, but are near-universally considered pistol cartridges today. While I'm not sure I actually disagree with you, I'd say that its pistol-style bullet design and .357 Magnum-ish power put it in the category of 'close enough'.
@@Kraenesk eh, the .30 Carbine is between .357 and .460 in power. Definitely on the highest end of "pistol" caliber power, but still arguably a pistol. See also the Ruger revolver and Automag 3 pistols.
I love my M1 carbines! There are two things you can do with a surplus M1 carbine to dramatically improve its reliability: (1) Replace all the springs. You can get a complete set of springs from Wolff for about $20. The springs in the surplus carbines are typically 70+ years old and can be expected to be reaching the end of their service life. (2) Understand that you are going to spend a lot of money on magazines before you have 5-10 that run reliably. The magazine was the weak point of the M1 carbine. I've had pretty good luck in that regard with newly manufactured and NOS GI magazines but I avoid the "bargain bin" used mags that show up sometimes. The magazine won't stand up to wear as long as modern designs and you will replace them fairly frequently. If I have two failures with a magazine, I destroy it or paint it red to be used for training only. There's some value in practicing failure drills. The third point I want to make is not related to reliability but is just as important. You must never allow your wife, girlfriend, mother, or sister to shoot your M1 carbine because then it won't be yours anymore.
Ian obviously loves this thing, I have one and feel the same way about it. I own a fairly decent sized collection of war rifles, + a modern AR. For some reason the M1 carbine is my favorite, it may not be as advanced at the AR, but something about it just feels so much better in your hands and to shoot.
Great Weapons, I've owned several over the years, I have an early Winchester, and the other two are late WW2 production, and I have a Civilian M1 Carbine, as well, in the late 1970s and 1980s M1 Carbines were all over the Surplus Markets, they were cheap and ammo was super easy to find, I bought a 1943 Mfg M1 from a Surplus Dealer in 1980 paid just a little over $ 150.00 I remember seeing racks and racks of M1 Carbines at Gun stores, Gun Shows, Surplus Stores years ago. My Dad was a Navy Pilot Korean Conflict, he carried a folding stock version M1 with 75 Rounds and a Colt 1911 Pistols as well in his plane.
I love my M-1 Carbine!! Original NRA in the mail rifle, circa 1963 or so. Also have a DCM Garand by the mail rifle, too. When my mail man delivered the box way back when, I showed him what he just brought me and his jaw dropped to the floor. :-)
Ian, I admire your courage in presenting a video showing less than stellar marksmanship, we ALL have bad days at the range, you have the fortitude to show a difficult day for you, when the easy way out would have been to s_ _ _ can the video. Keep up the great work!!!
I put a red-dot on top of my 1943 Rock-o-la M-1 Carbine and it is sweeeet. Of course I retained the original parts to put it back in G.I. configuration.
I love mine. It is a great light rifle. Very effective with any kind of expanding ammo, and capable of hits out to 300 yds or so, with practice. Seems very good for new shooters, and they can develop iron sight skill with the excellent sights.
You need to practice with a rifle if you intend to show off or bad mouth it. No one complained about the M1 Carbine until the Korean War M2 bullet hose came along. The Marines in the Pacific loved it. I realky like mine...and my Garand.
I'd like to see some modern PCCs taken through the course in their standard configuration to see how they compare. Would make for interesting data and viewing.
I still say for PCC, the M1 needs to be configured as the new Inland M30 IMP with collapsing stock, new production 30rnd mags and a 9mm can rated for 300blk. Maybe toss on red dot. Keep up the good work converting the heathen masses Ian.
Nobody hates the Carbine. Even if you dislike it, you can't hate it. It's like a puppy, you just want to hug it and tell it what a good boy it is.
Funnily enough, it couldn't have been made today. Because the designer of the gun was a convict for a felony conviction and was in prison while designing it.
@@moblinmajorgeneral He was a part, but he wasn't the driving force behind it. Ian has a pretty interesting vid on the adoption of the carbine, it's well worth a watch.
It's true! I had mine at a commercial range once, and the only other person there was a young guy running in his brand new fancy somethingorother (I want to say it was one of the civilian SCAR variants, but I don't remember for sure what he said it was, and all these newfangled brown flashlighty rifles look alike to me). When he saw me setting up, he came over all excited. "Dude! Is that an M1 Carbine?! Where'd you get it? Is it real?"
(I'm still not sure what he meant by that last part. I mean, it obviously wasn't an Airsoft gun...)
It kind of took the shine off a little bit when my magazine fell apart on me (the floorplate popped off, causing it to shoot the spring across the room and vomit rounds all over the floor), but hey, that wasn't the rifle's fault. Those 30-round M2 magazines have always been the weak link. :)
@@ZGryphon By "Is it real?", I think the guy meant, "Is it a carbine manufactured by a U.S. government contractor?" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine#Military_contractors
@@rayg.2431 Oh yeah, there are knockoffs, I forgot about that.
(Mine's an Inland that's been rebarreled by the CMP pro shop, as it happens.)
I think Ian likes the M1 carbine more than he is willing to admit to infront of Karl. 😉
It's the same feeling as when you realize Hi-Points are actually pretty okay.
The ghost of Carbine Williams personally haunts Karl. Gun Jesus should exorcise him.
@@davidharper9772 at least the M1 carbine is aesthetically pleasing.
@Assault Paperclip Just buy an Auto Ordinance M1 Carbine. They are the cheapest reproduction carbines on the market, will shoot to within US Army standards of WWII and are totally reliable, taking every type of carbine ammo out there without fail.
The same can't be said for the more expensive carbines built by Inland and Fulton which while more accurate, are far more picky with ammo.
You guys are making me wish I hadn't sold one of my old carbines. I also wish my Winchester hadn't been stolen.
The Slav squat with the M1 really brings it together for me.
@@TheCrusher72 You wouldn't, it has nothing to do with firing guns :D But if you image search "squatting slavs", you'll understand immediately what Samwise meant :D
@@TheCrusher72 Also known in some circles as the "gopnik stance".
For non Asians and non Slavs, it's just called hunkering.
Just don't let Karl touch it, he will make it malfunction
Ian forgot to say "Ah! Germans!" at the start.
Or Banzai chaaaarge
or a talking tree
Z Germans
Ah, Koreans!
Wrong era for this rifle. "Ah! Commies!" would be more appropo.
The M1 carbine has long been a favorite of mine. I love the concept behind it, to be a replacement for a pistol. What's amazing is the concept survived the development process without requirements for a little more power, a little more range, and some more applications, ratcheting up until it was almost as large and heavy as the Garand.
Coulda done w/ a little more power; no reason they couldn't have taken a small wt. penalty so they could have at least run the ammo at full 30-06 pressures; then it would truly been medium power & in the M2 config, would have rivaled the STG-44 for first true assault rifle crown...
You're getting better with the Texas star
Uses words like frustrating, starts jabbing target with pointy stick.
When it comes down to it, the pointy stick is always an option.
@@davidbrennan660 never runs out of ammo.
@@davidbrennan660 Where I come from, we call that back to basics.☺️
But what someone comes after you with a bunch of loganberries..?
@@lairdcummings9092 Be glad it's not a pineapple, then you'd really be in for it
As an Australian who grew up in the remote tropics, our Underwood .30 Carbine was almost always my go to scrub gun. Occasionally I'd take a .44WCF 1896 but the M1 was brilliant in thick jungle.
I heard the helmet makes you 45% more accurate, but further testing may be required.
But it also increases the urine leakage into your underwear if you hear buzzing sounds.
Game breaking exploits like that will be fixed with a day one 18gb patch
+3 Accuracy on 2d6 rolls.
What the M1 style helmet does best is drop down over your eyes when you try to shoot prone! PASGT helmet wasn’t much better.
It’s 100% accuracy if you have the whole uniform
+20% Accuracy Bonus with Helmet Equipped
Nice. +1 hair growth
Plus shades for 1+ charisma.
Haha yeah
I love how the carbine sounds, from the super mechanical charging of the action to the report of gunfire.
Everybody should have one M1 Carbine. Real military ones are hard to disappoint the owner. A favorite of mine.
Mine too. Smashing little carbine.
I've got an old, commercial, Universal example. It's picky about magazines. Recently bought a Fulton Armory gun which runs with any mag I stick into it. Son-in law's Kahr/Auto Ordnance is reliable so far but he only runs hardball through it.
I have a pair of arsenal rebuilt carbines (Inland and Winchester), and they are my all time favorite "just for fun" guns.
@@shooter2055
The Kahr/Auto Ordnance is such a true reproduction that actual military surplus M2 carbine trigger and action parts will fit and function! (I do not work for Kahr)
Agreed. Although I have to add that in addition to my WWII Inland I've also owned an Auto Ordnance commercial carbine and it was very good as well.
That shot target animation is a great addition, it makes it much easier to follow what target has been hit.
A C96 broomhandle would be interesting to see run on this course.
hell yeah with the stock deployed it would be a nice little gun
@@Vivacious_Lenin waffen SS style.
Ooh the C96 is such a cool little gun, well, shouldn’t say little. But put a stock on it and it become a nice handy pcc.
*cries in mini-MOA*
Or an Inglis Hi-power.
If I was forced to choose my favorite rifle, it would have to be the M1 Carbine. I fell instantly in love the first time shooting and I’ve never stopped feeling the same.
The M1 Carbine has long been one of my favorite guns.
If I was an American WW2 combatant, and could choose my own weapon, this would be my choice, a good balance of weight, capacity and stopping power. I really like the BAR but the 99% of the time your not fighting its a lot of weight, and the standard M1 is a little too big. I like the idea of a Thompson but the range would be an issue.
But I'm English so I'd most likely be equipped with Brent, Sten or SMLE.
Ian, a scoreboard might help my goldfish memory'd brain place this run in context with the other PCCs you've shot. If memory serves correctly, your red dotted MP5 run was 75ish or so seconds?
Definitely would be appreciated. For the time being:
Calico Liberty 100 Carbine w/ red-dot: 55.26
SP-5 w/ red-dot: 66.10
CMMG w/ red-dot: 76.86
KP9 w/ red-dot: 87.95
M1 Carbine w/ iron sights: 120.86
Hotchkiss Universal w/ iron sights: 150, out of ammo, 10 targets left standing.
Thirded
Seeing Ian in a T-shirt in December makes me wonder what “cold” means in Arizona?
They don't have a word for "cold."
Depends where you are in Arizona, remember the last Desert Brutality?
The coldest is ever gets in most of Arizona during the day is like low to mid 60s F. Gets down to the low 40s F at night.
It does actually drop to below freezing overnight in the winter.
the M1 carbine has to be one of the favorite rifles to shoot
I've said it before, I think the carbine is perhaps the best firearm to transition new shooters from shooting 22lr to shooting centerfire, full power cartridges. It's in the sweet spot of "I'm getting serious now" + "This doesn't scare me."
@@nunyabidniz2868 ... Good point. The guns are also fairly accurate by nature, which builds confidence.
Man, I like the M1 Carbine. The intentional design, the look, the size and weight all appeal to me. If the reproductions weren't so expensive I'd probably already have one!
good mags are precious
... why not a big-mouth pouch
for dropping em in?
I dunno man.. something about Ian shooting an M1 in blue denim, brown shirt & an OG MP helmet is such a vibe 😂
Excellent presentation, and very good shooting with irons. Thank you for your time posting this.
Very nice carbine, it looks lovely.
i have to say, the sound of the M1 carbine is VERY satisfying.
Good shooting! Always did like the M1 Carbine.....but, everyone wants to know: Where is the Calico??
Lots of rounds but underpowered.
Man for a wimpy little peashooter that can't even put a hole in a jacket it sure does smack those targets around like they owe it money.
About as wimpy as a .357 out of a lever action rifle.
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@@aeredhaelredfalen6194 You know, because everyone knows .357 is a little baby cartridge for babies that is at most useful for small game
Won't go through a jacket ? Willing to stand a 100 yards from me in a Chinese Commy jacket and let take some shots at you? Served well at Chosin
@@edwardm6231 I think he was being sarcastic. About 30 years ago my Korean War veteran father and I tested an M1 carbine against several targets including a wet mattress. It sailed right through all of them. My father's comment about the soldiers who complained that it didn't penetrate North Korean winter coats was, "I knew those dumb bastards were just missing." Admittedly, it will not hit with the authority of the M1 rifle and is probably less likely to immediately incapacitate the enemy but it will serve well for its intended purpose.
@@itsapittie Also, if they were using M2 carbines on full auto, the light weight and semi-pistol grip stock might have been an issue. Those things are supposed to be surprisingly difficult to control, especially for shooters who aren't very experienced with full auto. That's the main reason they removed the select-fire mode from the original M1 carbine specification in the first place.
1:12 THAT IS A BIG NO NO, I WAS LOOKING AROUND FOR THAT FLY
The audio for all the guns your fire are by far the coolest. Thank you gun Jesus!
Nice shooting! And that graphic really made it easy to keep track of the hits...
Currently owning 10 M1 Carbines, it is one of our favorite guns to shoot, and it stands strong, even after 80 years since development.
Good to see an M1 with an M1 being run through the laps, enjoy the content Ian as always
"I really like the M1 Carbine..."
_Angry Karl noises_
Fun stuff! That cartridge really swings the dueling tree plates around.
Official Forgotten Weapons Pointy Stick Available Soon!!!
And look for the offshoot channel coming soon, Forgotten Pointy Sticks!
The standard issue melee weapon of Elbonia!
The M1 carbine has always been one of the best looking guns
I second that
Indeed
Derided for power but, still performing beyond its designer’s wildest expectations!
Ian is D-Day from Animal House! Ramming speeeeeeed!
Glad to see you using the M1 Carbine like this and I enjoyed your other video on it as well. I have always loved the M1 and always thought it was a great weapon. The original pistol caliber carbine can still get the job done!
We used to run a carbine match at our club probably 25 years ago. And by carbine I mean M1Carbine. Course of fire was between a pistol course and military rifle. Lots of fun!
This was so obvious it took a genius to think of it, what a great comparison idea.
M1 Carbines are great little rifles.
The M1 is one of those rifles that the reproductions leave a lot to be desired.
Agreed I've wondered why the repro's aren't better than they are. It's not like they're designing from the ground up.
I used my utility company work truck to help an old man with a flat tire and he tried to give me an m1 carbine and I told him I’d call him and make a fair offer but that I couldn’t take it. I called and he said his sons didn’t want him to sell it. I now always carry quick cash
@@MrJonrocker Nobody now is building them to .mil acceptance standards... There is absolutely no excuse that modern production can't measure up! But again, most of the problems come back to the magazines, so anyone bent on making carbine repops needs to assume control & responsibility for producing a better magazine to go along with it...
Fulton Armory repros are great, just expensive. Everything I've heard about them is that they're pretty much USGI guns, but new.
@@chrisphoenix77 I think that the South Korean mags are good as well.
The pictogram was very nice.
A board with all tested PCCs ranked by time would be nice.
Just as a 3-second static image at the end prior to the outro, yes.
Kind of like the "Star in an Economy Car" lap times they used to have on Top Gear, yes!
@@nunyabidniz2868 That's exactly what i thought :).
Being a Brit. I've only had chance to use the M1 carbine a couple of times, but it's a great little weapon. Simple, lightweight and very handy, it's easy to see why the were popular with British special forces during WW2 and as a personal defence weapon into the 1950s. A 30rd mag dump from an M2 is on my gun bucket list.
The sights on these things rock
Ian has squat a lot doing this kind of firing, he won't have any problem going to Asian toilet for sure.
You could also be a Russian hoodlum he is pretty good at slav squatting
The M1 carbine is the original close quarters combat rifle. The power of a .357 magnum, good to 200 yards if you need it, and much easier to aim than a handgun. Big fan here.
Next project, "What would Carbine Williams do 2021?"
Yes! Even if its just some graphics and discussion, this would awesome. As Ian has said before, reliable mags are the issue. But still, what would the come up with? A mini FAMAS? A modular platform, a la an AR?
My main problem with PCCs is the fact other than the 10mm the extra heft doesn't really buy you anything in hitting power or trajectory. Yes you can be more accurate, but it is still pistol power. At least the 30 Cal carbine is at a magnum level of power and much flatter shooting, and the Carbine is more compact than an AR platform. The Blackout does hit harder, but the AR platform makes the rifle longer and heavier and no good folding stock option. An M1 with a folding stock makes for a very lightweight, compact PDW and has no NFA problems.
The thing is, unless you count the M3 (which exists purely because the limitations of the night sight made it a waste of time to put it on anything heavier and with a longer effective range), the M1 platform never really departed from its original design intent to start with.
Greatly appreciated! Outstanding work and accomplishments in your field of expertise and service by mediating it informatively and entertainingly.
Perfect description of Mitch
M1 Carbine. My all-time favorite.
Fucking A right dude!!! I’m sitting here watching you’re first round like it’s a football game!! I was rooting for you the whole way through.
A PDW before PDWs were cool. Especially the "advisor's gun" configuration.
M1s are so much fun, and the irons are great
2:15 Ian needs to do voice acting on the next WW2 game.
boing
A serious company has to remaster this. Updated stock, real mags. Would absolutely buy it.
Check out Fulton Armory.
@@CascadianPatriotII They may offer rails and updated stocks, but they haven't touched the magazines.
Love the Slav squat for steadiness
Filmed with 2 camera's makes it great!
That gun never gets old.
Ian taking slav squat to the next level
I've always wanted an M1, of all the period weapons I've shot sans the BREN, this is easily the most enjoyable and most fun to shoot.
If you want a good carbine magazine (that doesn't work at first), look for Korean RWB carbine mags. They are made of heavier gauge steel, so once you 'tweak' the feed lips with some needle-nose pliers they stay tweaked. You're going to tweak your mags anyway, even GI mags, and the problem is always keeping them tweaked when the steel is so flimsy. RWB stands for Red, White and Blue and are easy to find and dirt cheap.
Thanks for the tip, & the warning that they'll need tuning before they'll run properly so not to give them the heave-ho immediately...
@El Guapo mas macho Yeah, and they'll keep working until you drop them or repeated use weakens the thin steel lips. The original intent was that the mags would be disposable like the 'C' clips for Garands. The army did away with that idea almost immediately but never went back and changed the specs to use heavier gauge steel.
If the M1 Carbine is a PCC, then a M1903 with a Pedersen device is too...
Debatable, because the 1903 is too long: by definition, carbines are shorter than the standard issue rifle they are used alongside. But a case can be made that since the 1903 was standardized as a "one length does all" short rifle, the reduction in "caliber" (power) by using the Pedersen in it would make it a carbine. So I thumbs-upped your comment even tho' this reply is made somewhat in refutation.
It's not exactly carbine-length.
I would say the m1 carbine is not a pcc because it doesn't fire a pistol round. It fires a purpose built rifle round.
@@Kraenesk .44-40 and .38-40 were designed as rifle rounds too, but are near-universally considered pistol cartridges today. While I'm not sure I actually disagree with you, I'd say that its pistol-style bullet design and .357 Magnum-ish power put it in the category of 'close enough'.
@@Kraenesk eh, the .30 Carbine is between .357 and .460 in power. Definitely on the highest end of "pistol" caliber power, but still arguably a pistol. See also the Ruger revolver and Automag 3 pistols.
I love my M1 carbines! There are two things you can do with a surplus M1 carbine to dramatically improve its reliability: (1) Replace all the springs. You can get a complete set of springs from Wolff for about $20. The springs in the surplus carbines are typically 70+ years old and can be expected to be reaching the end of their service life. (2) Understand that you are going to spend a lot of money on magazines before you have 5-10 that run reliably. The magazine was the weak point of the M1 carbine. I've had pretty good luck in that regard with newly manufactured and NOS GI magazines but I avoid the "bargain bin" used mags that show up sometimes. The magazine won't stand up to wear as long as modern designs and you will replace them fairly frequently. If I have two failures with a magazine, I destroy it or paint it red to be used for training only. There's some value in practicing failure drills.
The third point I want to make is not related to reliability but is just as important. You must never allow your wife, girlfriend, mother, or sister to shoot your M1 carbine because then it won't be yours anymore.
I've always wanted a m1 carbine! Great video guys.
Disappointed the was no cry of "Ahh! Germans!"
wasn't that just for french sidearms?
My favorite carbine ever.
The M1 Carbine has it's charm :-)
The fly sounds really help with the Once upon a time in the west vibes 👌
Always love the use of a Slavic Squat.
My grandpa's M1 is just as lovely as this one. Its a real joy to shoot!
I have a 1943 Inland and I bought 7 repro mags for it from aim surplus. They’ve all worked flawlessly for me.
Nicely Done, Ian....Nicely Done, as they say in the business...
Perhaps not the fastest run so far, but that was a very convincing performance from the M1 carbine for this series of engagements.
The first center fire rifle I owned was an M1 carbine with a 4 scope. Great gun. If I didn't own so many guns already I would buy a new one.
Thank you , Ian .
Ian obviously loves this thing, I have one and feel the same way about it.
I own a fairly decent sized collection of war rifles, + a modern AR. For some reason the M1 carbine is my favorite, it may not be as advanced at the AR, but something about it just feels so much better in your hands and to shoot.
I'm loving this mic.
Love the M1 carbine, thanks for showing us what it can do! :-)
This gun sounds so fucking awesome.
Great Weapons, I've owned several over the years, I have an early Winchester, and the other two are late WW2 production, and I have a Civilian M1 Carbine, as well, in the late 1970s and 1980s M1 Carbines were all over the Surplus Markets, they were cheap and ammo was super easy to find, I bought a 1943 Mfg M1 from a Surplus Dealer in 1980 paid just a little over $ 150.00 I remember seeing racks and racks of M1 Carbines at Gun stores, Gun Shows, Surplus Stores years ago. My Dad was a Navy Pilot Korean Conflict, he carried a folding stock version M1 with 75 Rounds and a Colt 1911 Pistols as well in his plane.
I love my M-1 Carbine!! Original NRA in the mail rifle, circa 1963 or so. Also have a DCM Garand by the mail rifle, too. When my mail man delivered the box way back when, I showed him what he just brought me and his jaw dropped to the floor. :-)
Ian, I admire your courage in presenting a video showing less than stellar marksmanship, we ALL have bad days at the range, you have the fortitude to show a difficult day for you, when the easy way out would have been to s_ _ _ can the video. Keep up the great work!!!
I put a red-dot on top of my 1943 Rock-o-la M-1 Carbine and it is sweeeet. Of course I retained the original parts to put it back in G.I. configuration.
That is such a pretty little carbine
Wow man, great shooting!
Good performance, i like the M1 Car too.
I love my M1. Beautiful gun, still got its Army Ordinance Corps stamp
I love mine. It is a great light rifle. Very effective with any kind of expanding ammo, and capable of hits out to 300 yds or so, with practice. Seems very good for new shooters, and they can develop iron sight skill with the excellent sights.
You need to practice with a rifle if you intend to show off or bad mouth it.
No one complained about the M1 Carbine until the Korean War M2 bullet hose came along.
The Marines in the Pacific loved it.
I realky like mine...and my Garand.
I'm shocked by how many of these are still in service around the world.
More powerful than you'd think.
I’ve had very good luck with the KCI magazines in the M1 Carbine, both 15 and 30 rd.
Me too.
I see Ian has discovered the power of the Slavic squat, using it to improve his accuracy.
In 47 minutes, you got 10,000 views...on a Saturday morning before 8am Eastern.
LOL!!!
The charm of a worldwide viewerbase.
It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
Well, in Europe we've grown to anticipate Ian's uploads around early to mid afternoon.
I'd like to see some modern PCCs taken through the course in their standard configuration to see how they compare. Would make for interesting data and viewing.
I still say for PCC, the M1 needs to be configured as the new Inland M30 IMP with collapsing stock, new production 30rnd mags and a 9mm can rated for 300blk. Maybe toss on red dot. Keep up the good work converting the heathen masses Ian.
The fly agrees 01:11
Would love to see the paratrooper version in action.