Canon C70 VS BMPCC 6k PRO | Rent Before You Buy!
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- I have been trying to decide between the Canon C70 and BMPCC 6K Pro, so I rented them for a week to figure out which camera is most suitable for my needs!
Get 15% off your rental when you use code JORDANP15! www.pjatr.com/t/TUJGRktHSkJHS...
Thanks to the homies for the help on this video!
Steven Darling: / stevendarling
Jason: jasunfilms
TImothy St. Clair: / timothyst.clair
LINKS TO GEAR:
Canon C70: amzn.to/2SPh55q
BMPCC 6K Pro: amzn.to/3j5WrID
To be honest the BMPCC line was never meant to be compete with the high end video cameras, it's a cinema camera after all, it requires everything else from the preproduction to the controls of the production and then post-production in the pipeline to shine its spots which were designed for, it combines more features to the portability but it's not supposed to be used as a run and gun style of camera, it's a budget and the best (and almost only) option for an indie filmmaker who has higher expectation to their work.
This has ALWAYS how I viewed Blackmagic as! Completely agree!
Exactly, I wouldn’t call the canon c70 high end, but either way comparing an actual Cinematic camera to something like the c70 is ridiculous, if you’re a UA-camr obvious the c70 is the camera you should get,
This is true, it’s easily the best budget cinema camera. The c70 is more of a hybrid cinema
Such high quality content for such little subs. Good video bro this will definitely help in later purchases of these cameras.
I really appreciate that!!! Thank you so much man
Awesome video bro. The quality of your shots as well as the color grading are amazing. I enjoyed the comparison.
Thank you so much Michael!! I appreciate you checking out the video 🙌
Great review of both cameras mate! We just picked up a C70 at work and I'm pretty excited to use it more.
Thank you so much!! It’s such a fun camera to shoot on
Ultimately that's what $3000 extra pricetag gets you. more refined, convenient features. I am glad there is a $2500 option though with this level of image quality!
Absolutely! And the BMP is amazing. I have the 4k and plan to keep it
I couldn't agree more...if you have the cash for a C70...then get a C70 !
Great video bro! I was just about to do a camera comparison for both of these cameras on my channel. But you did such a good job I don't think I need to haha
Thank you so much!
I’d love to see your take on it! Everyone has different needs for their cameras so I think your take would be just as valuable for someone.
Great choice. Love our C70! Great video Jordan. I know it’s a ton of work but you make it look easy.
Thank you Dom!! This project was definitely a doozy but super fun
Quality video bro .Especially the sample footage .
Thank you so much man!!
Got the pocket 6K and haven’t looked back. Such a fun and great camera. Couple of misconceptions though is that you don’t have to rig this thing to death. Out of the box with a memory card, it works. Swapping batteries doesn’t mean it doesn’t work out the box. Buy a Red. That’s an example of not being ready out of the box. I also understood that as a cinema camera it was going to be for me to use with my v mount batteries and modular to my liking. Got two more of those baddies because they work and do exactly what I want. C70 is great and simply amazing but didn’t give a justification for the price tag. I don’t need autofocus, ibis, internal NDs and all those things. I kinda wanted a manual vs automatic for control if that makes sense. Haha!
It is a great camera! Actually shooting on it right now for a shoot I’m on and loving it. The C70 just met the needs for a higher percentage of shoots I am currently doing.
Funny enough, I use manual focus on my C70 more than auto because I run a lot of cine glass on it haha
Amazing video as always bro!🔝
Dude I appreciate you watching it!!!
Nice comparison. They are both great cameras. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Thank you Griffin! I appreciate you watching it.
Renting equipment is one of the best options, great video and a very good comparison of these two incredible cameras,
a question is the text animation you use during the video bought on any website? If so, could you tell me where, greetings from Spain!
Thanks Roger! I got it from Envato Elements.
Great comparison!
Great and informative video. Thanks 👍🏼
Thank you for watching it! I’m glad you found it helpful.
Thanks for the review! I did rent the C70 before buying since I couldn't find a place that would allow returns. I already had RF lenses so I didn't consider the Black Magic. Thanks!
I really want to try RF glass on the C70. I bet it is incredible!
@@JordanPulmano yes, they’re really nice but as far as I know you’re stuck with the crop. I’m looking forward to the 14-35 f4.
As to which camera you should get really depends on what you’re using it for, if it’s just for something like UA-cam videos then you really should be getting anywhere near a Cinematic camera no matter how affordable it is,
I just bought a bmpcc 6k pro and I really thought I was ready but man it has been a mixed bag. No matter how I rig this camera it always feels incomplete or lacking in some way. The image quality is AMAZING but getting used to the shifting dynamic range with ISO is kinda ruff with some of the things I shoot. I’m used to cameras like canon and Sony that just work out of the box so this has really been hard to get used to.
Also, the IR pollution even with the new internal ND’s is FAR from acceptable. It still requires IR reduction and that’s just one more thing to have to buy for this camera because not all IR filters are created equal so you can’t skimp in this department. You have to buy the good stuff. I’ve seen some people buy cheaper IR filters and test them on the bp6k pro but they only work in limited scenarios and have horrible flaring/contrast reduction in almost any scenario except cloudy days.
I bought the bp6k pro because I didn’t want to have to use a matte box all the time for IR reduction and ND. If I still require multiple filters or a matte box then I mind as well buy the bp6k and not the pro. Sometimes I feel like there is far too much to think about with the bp6k pro. It’s really just a sensor in a box lol. And for some people that’s cool. Could I get used to these short comings? Yes I think so. But If I do get out of this camera I’m going for the c70.
You totally nailed it. They give us an incredible image, but it doesn't come without some added work to make it easy! I gotta say, 6 months later I am still loving the C70 and am happy with my decision.
So Canon C70 with the purchase of the speed booster or black magic with the purchase of the battery grip?
I may go ahead and grab the c70. I have the original 6k but haven’t used it much since getting the Z cam F6.
The quality seems pretty similar and the main differences seem to be AF with canon. I’m looking for a simple setup I can use when I don’t want to rig my camera so I’ve been on either the 6k pro or the c70. Run and gun, interviews and concert recaps so the c70 seems to be the pick although canon is def charging a premium lol.
If I go 6k pro, I’ll just add the battery adapter that gives you 3 batteries to solve the performance issues.
I can confidently tell you after a year of owning the C70, I would never go back to blackmagic. The C70 has been the most well rounded camera that I have owned!
@@JordanPulmano sheesh lol, black magic still has the value aspect on lock but im definitely getting this with a purpose. I came from the 5d3 error and also on a EOS R for photography so the c70 it is.
Ive got Canon and the bmpcc6k. Hands down the bmp is better to just grab and go. Mines in a pelican case and within 5 minutes I have a full setup with about 15 hrs of battery life. Granted Im comparing that to an r series camera. Also, braw is the absolute JAM.
QUALITY content right here!
Thank you Keith!!!
New sub! Very much liked your content.
Thank you so much!!!
I don’t know much about the c70 but if it’s not recording in raw then there might be some de-noise processing in camera. Raw files intrinsically have more noise.
What fluid head are you using?
Great point! I didn’t take that into consideration.
I’m using a Manfrotto 504HD.
C70 processes the image in-camera with a dual ADC to maximize SNR, meanwhile the BM only records the RAW image (somewhat as BRAW is special form of RAW). So the C70 will always show less noise because of the dedicated processing, while the noise in the final output from braw post-processing is up to the user (the noise reduction tool in DaVinci works wonders with braw files). So really it’s two different worlds on that level… :)
Great video and amazing channel. I’m sceptical on the c70 14/16 stops of dynamic range. Real world test show it’s only 13. I only believe Arri then blackmagic is a close second everyone else Red included is lying about DR.
If I had the budget I’d buy a c70 but since I don’t it looks like I’ll go with blackmagic.
C70 has more conveninece and is more refined (apart for that crappy small fragile single display), but as image quality BM to me wins hands down.
I guess it's possible to work on the 10bit files of the Canon to make them more appealing, but on the Bmppc is so much easier to have great, rich skin tones.
Pity for the BM the short battery life without rigging it and the exaggerated rolling shutter and crop at 120p.
For the rest, as a cost effective Cinema camera, is hard to beat.
Plus that bright, huge display...
Just one question, out of the box did you noticed any of the screen tint issues with the BM?
I didn’t notice any weird tint on this one, but I did notice a little tint on the NDs which I think may be a firmware update fix? But definitely not as consistent looking as the NDs on the C70
Hey nice speakers??
Which is it?
Great Video !
Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks! I'm trying to decide between the Sony FX6 and the C70.
Ohhh tough choice!
✊😂 waiting for you to give into the auto focus.
This video was posted 2 months ago… I’m ashamed to say I have since given into it…😂
@@JordanPulmano 🤣🤣 welcome, cinema cameras with auto focus is a great world to live in 🙌
The one thing I think I’d miss is the Blackmagic big bright screen, especially straight on a gimbal. A great screen is what I include in out of the box usability and its something a lot of cameras are missing 😂
How are you liking the C70 5 months later? Any regrets or complaints?
Currently sitting with it as I just wrapped a documentary I shot on it and I still absolutely love it! No regrets. It has some quirks as does every camera, but I am very happy with my decision!
Is the Pelican 1510 case bigger than that Lens Rentals case at 4:40?
Good question. They are shaped very different so it’s tough to say for sure. I’d say the 1510 is still a little bigger
I’m sorry I just can’t get enough of my 6K Pro’s Image quality man.
No matter what I do my quality looks crap
Blackmagic is where it’s at tbh! For the price you can’t beat that
They are insane cameras for the price point. Only issue for me is the lowlight isn't great and gets noisy quickly.
@@dna8269 but in reality no cinema camera is really meant for lowlight. They’re meant to be on well lite sets
@@dna8269 For a standard cinema camera, a native ISO 3200 is higher than enough.
Canon paid you to do a hit job on the black magic ?👀
Shh play cool don’t let anyone know
only thing I dont like about the C70 is the flippy screen. It feels cheap and feels like its going to break easily
That’s fair! It is a little bendy feeling
It not only look like it would break easily, it does break easily. The LCD hinge is worst than junk. Besides that, the C70 is amazing!
Haha should have just did a shorter video saying, “I prefer Canon for everything” 🤣
Sadly the UA-cam algorithm does not like that
C70 Best camera
Before you nock down BMPCC please have a look at what Vincent Laforet did with BMPCC 4K or have a look at a Fisherman’s Dairy which is streaming on Netflix shot on BMPCC 4K.
I don’t think any part of this video is knocking on the BMP haha. I have owned the 4k for a while and it’s one of my favorite cameras!!
You seem a very clever guy but you have missed the point . I would agree with you more if you would talk more about the difference between a cinema camera and a video camera.
@@ailtvonline3121 Dude what are you saying? lol. His review was great and made a lot of sense. He didn't knock the BM cameras at all and why would he explain video vs cinema? Makes zero sense
To anyone wondering:
Pocket 6K
Amazing image and codec with braw
Amazing price
Easy to use
Awesome screen
But:
Weird shape for gimbal use and in general
Needs rigging
Needs external power
Dynamic range ok but not great
C70:
Epic dynamic range
More video focused body
Better shape (fits straight on my ronin rsc2!)
Speedbooster gives it almost full frame
Battery life is awesome
Codec great (not raw but the image is exceptional)
Internal NDs
Easy to run decent audio from it
Digital Image stabilisation
But:
Screen is flimsy and not amazing but fine
Erm….. 😂😂
That poor skateboard man
Penny Board deserved better
3:33 AM but hey 🤷🏻♂️
Aye thanks for staying up and watching!!!
The black magic design (body) is horrible
I don’t like it at all.
Crazy how people count out the Z Cam that's y'all lost 😂
Z cam is great, but didn’t consider it for the same reason as the Komodo. I have a specific need for this camera and something modular like those doesn’t really work for me!
the amount of job you're getting with z cam will be less. like it or not, we live in reality, not in fantasy. the time I rent a komodo i get three more jobs through word of mouth
edit: keyword here is "RENT", I don't necessarily think that it's a good value but if you work in industry town for your particular country, you will understand
@@shzammpatapon9865 That won't be the case for 99% of shooters. I've never had any client ask about my camera brand, even the highest paying ones.