hold up a second, if he became the ice king, wouldn't that cause betty golb to appear as betty for the longest time, had been trying to fix simon, so him becoming ice king again may very well result in her appearance once again.
Agreed. I wasn’t too sure I’d like it when seeing the trailer, the Fionna and cake episodes were never some of my favorites, but I’m really satisfied with the show so far. Lots of great tie ins to the lore and I love the characters so far
I can see why Scarab wouldn't be chosen for Wishmaster I believe that due to his black-and-white thinking and ridged deminer, he may restrict certain wishes which may not lead to an alternate reality just simple things and nothing more which would go against what a Wishmaster should do and or be in the universe of adventure time.
Yeah. Even scarab might break universes apart due to not making wishes with context. Prismo make sure every possible hole in the story leading to the wish is fixed.
I'm not gonna lie here, but I like Fionna better when she wears a skirt honestly. I always love Adventure Time series since 2010 during my first year of High School.
Supposedly kumail wanted to voice prismo again, said he loves the role nd would have done it for free, but when asked why he didn’t he was confused. The creators told him that they had sent their offer to his agents. Kumail said that it was never passed along to him by his agents/managers/who ever. He said he is definitely going to address this massive mistake made by his team. What a massive fucking shame.
I believe only 12 years have passed in the Land of Ooo since the end of AT instead of decades. During the bus tour, Fionna is asked about the Betty statue, which she says she doesn't know who that is, but it was renovated 12 years ago. 🤯 Love your vids! 💜
So that means Finn is 29 in this series since he was 17 at the end of the original show, another mind blown 🤯okay not really but he does look almost 30 years old which I think might be true.
I think there’s a huge parallel, between Fiona and cake wanting to go back to ooo , and leave their normal, modern 21st-century life. And Simon, wanting to go back to that 21st-century life he can fit in and be a modern human again. I think this is just a random theory, but I think that Simon will stay in Fiona and cakes, moderen reality. Essentially they will switch places.
I wonder how marcaline is going to react. In ep 2 her and bubblegum were being couple goals, but she unintentionally was ignoring Simon. If Simon were to be the ice king again without marcaline's knowledge then Simon's phone call would have been the last moment she could have truly talked to him.
I’m really worried for Simon. I just hope he doesn’t do anything drastic considering where his headspace currently is. For his sake, for Fionna and Cakes’s sake, and for the sake of everyone in Ooo who cares about him.
I find at least two possibilities, either they find a way to pass Fiona universe to the ice thing mind considering gunter wish to be the Ice thing it can work or Simon become one with the Ice thing
I have a feeling the season will end at a cliffhanger. I don't see how the story would end considering Betty is so far still merged with Golb. I don't see her (the real her) coming back, at least in the next few episodes.
I like the theory that the Ice King and Fionna and Cake go adventuring together. Him protecting them with their original world in his mind, and them protecting him in his crazed state. Thematically beautiful.
Would be a tragic ending for Simon tho. To willingly go back to insanity after all that Betty sacrificed to make him Simon again would be such a disservice to his character
@@ShaffersWafersBro, he's a depressed man that is basically clinically insane and becoming old with time and he's trying to find comfort on something he misses. Are we really gonna blame a depressed man for wanting comfort from his old habits? It is in character for him because he's not mentally ok.
This whole dimension hoping route just made me remember something...Farmworld Lich hand was chopped off by Finn in the episode "Crossover", it fell into a portal that connected to every reality. Making it that there is a copy of said 'hand' in every reality. Think there will be an encounter with one of these hands?
That little fan girl will find her way to Prismo and wish for the world of Fiona and Cake to be real. This will fix everything and make Fiona and Cake's world legitimate.
@@Broomer52 You have to be specific though in that wish, otherwise you end up creating a 2nd F&C universe. That wish would have to be making Prismo's F&C universe "legal" (Or canon if thats the better term), while also adjusting it to restore magic, though that's also iffy when you consider F&C are still anomolies if they remember what that world was like in its non-magic state.
I mean it's very possible, prismo was about to come up with a better idea before he disappears when the wall broke in ep4 probably trying to show fear and adrenaline make anyone irrationally think even prismo
I love how we got to see the Marc Maron squirrel and the other tree cultists appear after over a decade. Up a Tree is genuinely one of my favorite episodes in the show.
I think this is the perfect series to turn into an adult cartoon, and it came out at the perfect time. We all watched Adventure Time as children, but now, 10 years later we're in our late teens/adults. Good job marketing team
I really hope Simon can become the Ice Prince, instead of the Ice King. Still enough of himself to have rational thoughts but enough of the Ice King so that he isn't so unhappy
@sz.marcellthe only way to revert would be to either create a new one or find golb again and do it that way which is difficult, not to mention the original crown is now literally bound by flesh to Gunther which is now the ice thing and we can see that it wasn’t removed even thousands of year down the line so that definitely didn’t happen
I think Simon won't exactly become the Ice King again. I think he'll become more of a hybrid of himself and the Ice King, like the Ice Prince from Fionna's dream. That way, he can have the necessary magical power to save Fionna's world without having to be totally insane.
if they choose to Retcon the old statement about Ice Queen having a different backstory to Ice King, I think it may be a neat interaction to see Simon Meet her at some point. it would be the closest we'd probably ever get to Simon meeting his insane Alter Ego.
If the Ice Queen is the Genderbent version of the Ice King. And the Ice King is Simon, it wouldnt be far fetched to think that the Ice Queen would be Betty.
Honestly i hope simon doesn’t permanently turn into the ice king. I feel like in the end both fionna cake and simon are going to learn to appreciate there worlds as they are and find there place simon learning to appreciate the chaos and learn that despite the differences in the world he still belong and fionna learning that though her world might not be magical its still a world filled with adventures. Ill be genuinely devastated if simon stays as the ice king because it feels like hes giving up and believes itll be the only way to be happy again which isnt true- it feels almost like a allegory for suicide in a way which is just really messed up and heartbreaking-
Maybe he could turn into a new version of Ice King. All he really needs is magical power to infuse Fionna and Cake's reality with magic. He doesn't need madness or anything else. Maybe the crown could be adjusted to erase original Gunter's biggest desire imprint and make it more compatible to current day Simon, something Betty tried to do ever since she ended up in Ooo.
@@Streifi "Maybe the crown could be adjusted to erase original Gunter's biggest desire imprint" This already DID happen, because Betty even mentioned in the last episode that the crown RESET. Sure, the other gunter re-made an Ice King-like wish, but it would be a different wish compared to the one original Gunter made. Meaning if Simon takes back the crown, we could get a different (maybe more passive) Ice King Or if Simon finds a way to reset the crown again, it could be used properly this time, and with a more careful wish (As Prismo would hopefully be more inclined to guide Simon the same way he guided Jake on making a wish -- being specific and knowing exactly what you want to happen). PS: Also, since the crown did reset, it also does mean original Gunter and the other wearers of the crown, in the inner maze -- are essentially also wiped.
@@cdagaming575 That would make sense. I wasn't sure how much it applied though, as Gunter (and the Ice Thing appearance) look kinda close to the Ice King, so I wasn't certain that the crown was fully reset as Betty assumed. You could be right about it being reset properly, though. Gunter's look might be a coincidence or might be based on his memories of the Ice King. But then again, I'm not sure if Simon gets to use this specific crown at all, since the Ice Thing has been featured in Ooo's far future. If Simon gets his hands on a crown from another reality, then it might still need to be reset.
Simon was the Ice King for almost a thousand years before the crown lost its magic the first time, and he seemed to recover quickly before revealing that he was set to die if he doesn't get the crown's magic back.
@@Streifi Indeed, Gunters look is different since it was how present Gunter saw the Ice King, rather then how original Gunter saw his Ice King. The difference being was besides a few instances, Simon was generally kind to Gunter and took care of him (Plus because of Orgalorgs influence, we know this Gunter is more competent). So the main process of it was: - Crown gets reset the first time, removing all its prior owners and clearing the slate - Betty uses said crown, and the crown resets again -- since Betty merges with Golb while the crown gets spit out being reset again (It took longer to reset the first time, because of just how much history was being erased...thousands of years in minutes) - Gunter then uses the crown, to be a different iteration of Ice King (As we would have gotten a similar result to OG Gunter, if it were the same wish). That being said, because Ice Thing still exists in the future, Ooos crown is untouched. Meaning, either a new crown needs to be found without harming another universe (Since Prismo did mention his boss would hold him responsible for universe disruptions, like the Lichs hand escaping into the multiverse), or another solution would be needed without the crown (Either accepting the world wont be magical and moving on, or finding a way to have Simon become The Ice King without the crown -- which Prismo could do with a wish, but risks it being permanent)
I really hope simon doesnt give up his sanity. I know it's hard for him and him going back to ice king would bring back the magic to fiona and cakes world but he's been through so much I just wish to see him genuinely happy😢😢
I think that astrid is gonna wish for the fiona and cake universe to be real so that it can become an “official” universe and no longer have to be hidden
It felt bit weird how Fiona was so ready to leave her world, but was also worried about what would happen to it. It’s not like she said goodbye, or did she just assume she could go back.
God, I love Simon's character so much. I always have and I will be SO upset if he turns back into the ice king. My hope for him is that he can restore his power, but also keep his sanity. Kinda like a Hulk-Banner situatiom from Infinity War. He can still be Simon, but also the Ice King at once. That way, Fionna's world would be magic again, and hopefully Simon will be able to find his place in Ooo. I also saw someone say that they think Simon will end up living with Fionna and Cake in the normal human world, but I hope that doesn't happen. Sure, Simon would fit in more, but all the people he loves are in Ooo. So, yeah, those are my hopes for this series. GAHH I CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE
I honestly agree with this LMAO, I've been scrolling through comments lately seeing if I was just crazy or if people agreed with me. My main hope right now is that there'll be some way for things to work out with Simon staying as Simon, as in the trailer, we see him stopping Betty at the bus. It would seem like bad writing to have Simon become Ice King as well, almost having a "escapism is good!" type of message. And it would seem like a plot hole for Simon to become Ice King again because of Betty's wish. I guess we just gotta wait and see
I love your theory at the end. I really hope that Fionna & Cake end up staying with Simon and keeping him in check if he does go to back to being Ice King.
Since Fiona's world depends on Simon's existance, the only way to save it is to make Simon immortal again, likely as the Ice King, or to bring that dimension out of Simon's brain to somewhere where it can exist independently indefinitely. Or to cleave Fiona and Fin's worlds together where everybody just has to deal with the fact there's an opposite sex twin of themselves roaming around.
Anybody else spotted the Lich hiding in the shadows of the black and white world Prismo sent Wyatt to? He was behind Princess Bubblegum which reminds me of the time the Lich tried to breach the multiverse and had his hand cut off, essentially making infinite copies of him that invaded every universe. He's not gone yet.
@@finanailong He's like in every universe now. I don't know how they're gonna get rid of him, or if he's even gonna play a major role in season 1 of "Fionna and Cake" (which I don't think he is), but he is guaranteed to return. You don't just give the main antagonist of "Adventure Time" a random cameo after he's already been beaten for it to not be important. Super excited to see what happens next!
I don't believe Simon will become the Ice King again because through his multi-dimensional travels he will learne how much good he has done as Simon and that without him the world is a bleaker place. like hell in the farm world. He's the reason the mushroom bomb never exploded. in Fiona and Cake's case, they'll probably come to terms with the fact that their world isn't magical, but the magic is in the friends they've made along the way or their dreams will take them to our OOO .worm holle style where they can interact with ours Finn Simon etc.
He better not become the ice king again man. If he learns magic and becomes a wizard the normal way, awesome, that'd be really cool, but if he becomes ice king again, that means Betty sacrifice was for nothing, and his story has made me cry enough already in the main series 💀💀💀
It is a story about escapeism how fionna wants to escape to a magical place rather than face the reality and how simon still after decades is trying to get betty back rather than trying to adjust to the world he lives in
I'm not gonna lie here, but I like Fionna better when she wears a skirt honestly. I always love Adventure Time series since 2010 during my first year of High School.
A thing about the theory that Tessa might be Cyn, in the moment 3:14 of the episode dead end I noticed that Tessa has what seems to be a mechanic articulation to move her wrist, similar if not identical to the one of the worker drones. Plus she wears a bow like the one of Cyn.
Fiona and Cake reminds me Adventure Time and Bravest Warriors , both have same art and same creator but I'm still prefer Adventure Time cuz it's my chillhood and it have a lot of memories for me
Sometimes when we get well it’s scary. We think we miss being sick but what we really miss is the comfort of being sick, knowing who and what we’re supposed to do.
One question I have is that since it’s now established that Fionna and Cake’s universe is stored in Simon’s mind, does that mean it ceases to exist when he dies?
no ice king people in the fandom who want Simon to loose all control of himself and autonomy DONT care about Simon they don’t care about his mental well-being and I can’t trust people who think it’s the best option it isn’t there’s nothing satisfying about it I will not trust you you are cruel to want this it’s not satisfying I hate it don’t you dare
So prismo got bored made a universe then put it into ice kings mind becuase the crown served as a infinite storage? Well it tracks for adventure time that's for sure
i think its interesting that the end goad *currently* seems to be making simon the ice king again, because we know that Ooo's crown can't be used for that, the Ice Thing still exists 1000 years later.
I dont think he will become ice king again because it would make everything betty did pointless She gave up her life to become a monster living in nothingness so simon can be sane again
personally i believe simon won’t become ice king again, instead however will use his knowledge of the crown, and dissect its key parts (the gems) to become the ice prince. i believe the crown works almost as a circuit board, while the gems are the battery/ the true magic of the crown. if fionna, cake, and simon are able to possibly collect a single gem from each variation of the ice king they may be able to harness its true power. to me it makes sense, the show has a ten episode run, we’re already 4 in and they release in sets of two. meaning each set of two episodes they could obtain 3 gems. 6, 8, 10. it’s a complete reach but i think simon is about to undergo a different sort of transformation- and that he might ultimately defeat the scarab with fionna and cake, allowing them to become part of the multiverse, not just a place existing in simons head. ultimately leading the ice prince to deciding to join the world of fionna and cake to continue to protect them.
Is there any context on why Simon has an evil choose goose or how he became evil? It's clearly meant to be him based on the voice and rhyming but something happened to him in between the main show and F&C
I don’t like the idea of them being made, I wish it was a different universe and somehow the ice king could connect with it so he makes a story about it because he thinks it’s not real
With the God Auditor, Scarab, there could be a possibility he could be manipulated into securing Golb and they run away with the egg capsule containing Golb for a plan near the end if forshadowed by Fin and Jake with the egg-shaped creature while fighting the Rooster King. Otherwise, Scarab could also have a parallel fate to what happened to the new Death in the spinoff series, steal a job they assumed would give them absolute power by killing the previous title holder, only to realize it isn't as satisfying and take themselves out with frustration or impatience. Simon also has many potential fates so far until more is revealed. 1. Merging with the Ice Thing. 2. Stealing one of the three (or two now?) jewels of the crown and only going partially insane. 3. Choosing to stay in a normal reality like the one Fionna's was altered to, while Fionna either stays in Ooo or makes her multiverse 'canon', making the empty void around her hidden reality suddenly populate with other new realities of Fionna and Cake. 4. Less likely so far with lack of evidence, but somehow getting Scarab to trap Golb and rescue Betty for a happy ending. 5. Scarab eliminates Prismo, something eliminates Scarab, and Simon becomes the new Wishmaster in eternal slumber and persuade Prismo's old boss to create his own dream reality where Betty exists.
I wonder if the Aspect of the ice thing 1000 years later has something to do with this, considering ice king magic and insanity is what made their world like that. Maybe they could pass fiona universe to the ice thing head. Maybe thats why he is only a head 1000 years later? Maybe Simon needed his body to be magical again but without the insanity of being the ice king
I think it probably has a little bit to do with ice king Gunter, because cake did show a lot of interest in going to the ice kingdom. Him being a head later though I’m not to sure about that, I’d assume it’s his beard just getting that long. Because his hair is much longer than it was since the season 10 finale
I really do feel sorry for Simon at this point. I mean first he was pretty much used by the crown. Turn into a nut job who's obsessed with kidnapping princesses. Then of course someone puts a universe in his mind. The girl that he love is completely out of his reach.
To be fair he agreed to it 🧊 king probably forgot or that is why he was show obsessed with them because he knows there real and they are literally inside his flipping head.
Sincecfionna and cake is a universe does that mean the litch will appear? Remember that one episode about wish finn and how he became the ice king. His litch hand got chopped off into every universe seen no one talking about it so why not comment?
I don't really know how important it would be, but I rewatched the old seasons of adventure time and saw that in the ending of S5 E8 'Mystery Dungeon' NEPTR does actually say to the ice king (even if it was only to console him) that his world and Fiona's world would meet, and the during this the ice king imagined it to be Fiona telling him this, maybe when NEPTR was powered up by Ice King and his personality was influenced by his magic, he was also given knowledge of the arrival of Fiona and cake due to Prismo's magic? again don't know if its relevant or anything but just thought I should mention it anyway!
I'm hoping for there to be a way for Simon to get his ice powers back while keeping his sanity intact, ( hey, that rhymed) tho that's just wishful thinking i guess.
Huh, well, this was an interesting turn of events. So basically, we are pretty much following the same Fionna and Cake that we were first introduced to in the Main Show, who has now quite literally escaped the FanFiction? Huh, honestly, I wasn’t sure that that was literally going to be the case, but i guess I should’ve figured as much. Anyway, it seems like our Main Plot and Objective is officially on the move now, I wonder how this will go? This is going to be very interesting. I hope to see more Videos about this covered by you.
I believe that the Fionna and Cake from Adventure Time was a show that aired before the mushroom war, and the Fionna and Cake we see in the show aré from a timeline were they are normal beings
You are literally told by the show how the world of Fionna and Cake cake as well as the people that live in it came to be and you decided to just ignore that, because…?
Nah the actual episodes from adventure time were real, prsimo made them, put them in simons mind. But when he gained his sanity back from being ice king, the weirdness left Fiona and cakes world. That’s why all the gender bent characters are still there but now just normal.
I say simon( formally ice king) Or prismo he could possibly make things into a reality but with some risk and conqeinsdeces Ethier way fionna and cake are real now
Ice king will return but not crazy, prismo will help him not to be crazy and i feel that prismo will get promoted and the red guy hunting them will be the new wishmaker, and fiona and cake with the iceking will go around the multiverse to stop people from crossing over, yes the red guys old job will be fiona and cake also iceking new job, thats why we never see iceking in the main universe because he is not there anymore he is with fiona and cake solving multiverse promblems
I am looking forward to more eps! We did not watch all Adventure Time eps, only catching them in passing. I would like to follow this one more closely if possible. I just wish we had to not depend on streaming instead of having the eps on good old Cartoon Network.
You know...im wondering if their universe will be moved into the Ice-thing's head crown....seems like the more obvious place since hes like the ice king now
I like this new reality now. Turns out Ice King wasn't some weirdo who had the hots for his own character. Nor!? Was Fionna and Cake made up by a Mad Man. Turns out Prismo the Wish God! Made Fionna and Cake himself. Buuuut it was illegal to do that, so he put his creation into Ice Kings head. He did ask for permission. So ice King thinking he Made up a universe. Turns out?? It was a real Universe in his head that he thinks He's made up and had an Idea for a Gender Bent version of Finn and Jake. This Honestly bothered me over the Years of Fionna and Cake being Ice Kings brain child.
Didn't Betty say the crown had also reset itself when they were being digested y Golb? Meaning that it doesn't have the curse on it that makes the wearer akin to Evergreen due to Gunters wish?
I'm not gonna lie here, but I like Fionna better when she wears a skirt honestly. I always love Adventure Time series since 2010 during my first year of High School.
Yeah no ice king people in the fandom who want Simon to loose all control of himself and autonomy DONT care about Simon they don’t care about his mental well-being and I can’t trust people who think it’s the best option it isn’t there’s nothing satisfying about it
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Bring magic back but at the cause of their exist reset again!! Maybe have magic return but be hidden.
Also when beddy fuse wirh golb might because the multiverse to evo
hold up a second, if he became the ice king, wouldn't that cause betty golb to appear as betty for the longest time, had been trying to fix simon, so him becoming ice king again may very well result in her appearance once again.
@@dragnothlecoonaWill Betty appear again be the original Betty?Hope they can have a happy ending 😢😢😢😢
I really like how it tied into the canon.
It's truly Amazing storytelling
@@ncisgeek223 and that's how Ice king got the idea from
Agreed. I wasn’t too sure I’d like it when seeing the trailer, the Fionna and cake episodes were never some of my favorites, but I’m really satisfied with the show so far. Lots of great tie ins to the lore and I love the characters so far
Does this come after the Obsidian timeline?
Is Jake still alive?
@@franciso5175 it is. I believe it’s 12 years after the s10 final so probably 5-7 years after obsidian at least. Jake is dead as far as I’m aware
Simon trapping himself in the Ice King would be a slap in the face for what Betty tried to do for him, so I am against that.
Same. I think better if Simon and Fionna just learned to cope with life.
But like… they’re entire world would get fucking destroyed
I can see why Scarab wouldn't be chosen for Wishmaster I believe that due to his black-and-white thinking and ridged deminer, he may restrict certain wishes which may not lead to an alternate reality just simple things and nothing more which would go against what a Wishmaster should do and or be in the universe of adventure time.
Yeah Scarab is way more rigid and uptight than Prismo, who’s a lot more chill, relaxed and obviously creative
Yeah. Even scarab might break universes apart due to not making wishes with context. Prismo make sure every possible hole in the story leading to the wish is fixed.
demeanor* but yeah he's way too machine-like and unforgiving, he would probably think someone's wish is too stupid to grant
I'm not gonna lie here, but I like Fionna better when she wears a skirt honestly. I always love Adventure Time series since 2010 during my first year of High School.
Supposedly kumail wanted to voice prismo again, said he loves the role nd would have done it for free, but when asked why he didn’t he was confused. The creators told him that they had sent their offer to his agents. Kumail said that it was never passed along to him by his agents/managers/who ever. He said he is definitely going to address this massive mistake made by his team. What a massive fucking shame.
@@sanxxxxI like the new VA a lot, too :)
I believe only 12 years have passed in the Land of Ooo since the end of AT instead of decades. During the bus tour, Fionna is asked about the Betty statue, which she says she doesn't know who that is, but it was renovated 12 years ago. 🤯 Love your vids! 💜
So that means Finn is 29 in this series since he was 17 at the end of the original show, another mind blown 🤯okay not really but he does look almost 30 years old which I think might be true.
I think there’s a huge parallel, between Fiona and cake wanting to go back to ooo , and leave their normal, modern 21st-century life. And Simon, wanting to go back to that 21st-century life he can fit in and be a modern human again. I think this is just a random theory, but I think that Simon will stay in Fiona and cakes, moderen reality. Essentially they will switch places.
I thought so as well, it would be a bittersweet ending for Adventure Time's most tragic character.
Great idea. But how would Marcy react to this?
Same :)
The problem is that Fionna and Cake don't belong to Ooo and Simon's family is in Ooo so it doesn't make sense for them to switch places like that
I wonder how marcaline is going to react. In ep 2 her and bubblegum were being couple goals, but she unintentionally was ignoring Simon. If Simon were to be the ice king again without marcaline's knowledge then Simon's phone call would have been the last moment she could have truly talked to him.
I’m really worried for Simon. I just hope he doesn’t do anything drastic considering where his headspace currently is. For his sake, for Fionna and Cakes’s sake, and for the sake of everyone in Ooo who cares about him.
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I find at least two possibilities, either they find a way to pass Fiona universe to the ice thing mind considering gunter wish to be the Ice thing it can work or Simon become one with the Ice thing
I have a feeling the season will end at a cliffhanger. I don't see how the story would end considering Betty is so far still merged with Golb. I don't see her (the real her) coming back, at least in the next few episodes.
@@GreybellYeah, I don't see Betty coming back either.
I'm sure this is a metaphor to being a widow and overcoming that with time
I like the theory that the Ice King and Fionna and Cake go adventuring together. Him protecting them with their original world in his mind, and them protecting him in his crazed state. Thematically beautiful.
Would be a tragic ending for Simon tho. To willingly go back to insanity after all that Betty sacrificed to make him Simon again would be such a disservice to his character
I'm not sure how Chaos God Betty would react to this tho😅
better to be ice king but no madness
@@ShaffersWafersBro, he's a depressed man that is basically clinically insane and becoming old with time and he's trying to find comfort on something he misses. Are we really gonna blame a depressed man for wanting comfort from his old habits? It is in character for him because he's not mentally ok.
I like this idea, too!
This whole dimension hoping route just made me remember something...Farmworld Lich hand was chopped off by Finn in the episode "Crossover", it fell into a portal that connected to every reality. Making it that there is a copy of said 'hand' in every reality. Think there will be an encounter with one of these hands?
That little fan girl will find her way to Prismo and wish for the world of Fiona and Cake to be real. This will fix everything and make Fiona and Cake's world legitimate.
Seriously, this is what SHOULD happen right here.
@@Broomer52 You have to be specific though in that wish, otherwise you end up creating a 2nd F&C universe.
That wish would have to be making Prismo's F&C universe "legal" (Or canon if thats the better term), while also adjusting it to restore magic,
though that's also iffy when you consider F&C are still anomolies if they remember what that world was like in its non-magic state.
I mean it's very possible, prismo was about to come up with a better idea before he disappears when the wall broke in ep4 probably trying to show fear and adrenaline make anyone irrationally think even prismo
@@cdagaming575that would only happen if prismo isn't the one who grants that wish, cuz he would most likely try to guide the one making the wish
I love how we got to see the Marc Maron squirrel and the other tree cultists appear after over a decade. Up a Tree is genuinely one of my favorite episodes in the show.
In the tree part of the tree, it’s very simple
I think this is the perfect series to turn into an adult cartoon, and it came out at the perfect time. We all watched Adventure Time as children, but now, 10 years later we're in our late teens/adults. Good job marketing team
I really hope Simon can become the Ice Prince, instead of the Ice King.
Still enough of himself to have rational thoughts but enough of the Ice King so that he isn't so unhappy
@sz.marcellthe only way to revert would be to either create a new one or find golb again and do it that way which is difficult, not to mention the original crown is now literally bound by flesh to Gunther which is now the ice thing and we can see that it wasn’t removed even thousands of year down the line so that definitely didn’t happen
People seem to have forgotten he hates ice now
I think Simon won't exactly become the Ice King again. I think he'll become more of a hybrid of himself and the Ice King, like the Ice Prince from Fionna's dream. That way, he can have the necessary magical power to save Fionna's world without having to be totally insane.
if they choose to Retcon the old statement about Ice Queen having a different backstory to Ice King, I think it may be a neat interaction to see Simon Meet her at some point. it would be the closest we'd probably ever get to Simon meeting his insane Alter Ego.
If the Ice Queen is the Genderbent version of the Ice King. And the Ice King is Simon, it wouldnt be far fetched to think that the Ice Queen would be Betty.
@@braincell4536 I know this series likes to torture Simon, but I don't think he'd be able to emotionally handle that. lol
@@braincell4536 no because Ice queen is a ice cream vendor.
Honestly i hope simon doesn’t permanently turn into the ice king. I feel like in the end both fionna cake and simon are going to learn to appreciate there worlds as they are and find there place simon learning to appreciate the chaos and learn that despite the differences in the world he still belong and fionna learning that though her world might not be magical its still a world filled with adventures. Ill be genuinely devastated if simon stays as the ice king because it feels like hes giving up and believes itll be the only way to be happy again which isnt true- it feels almost like a allegory for suicide in a way which is just really messed up and heartbreaking-
Maybe he could turn into a new version of Ice King. All he really needs is magical power to infuse Fionna and Cake's reality with magic. He doesn't need madness or anything else. Maybe the crown could be adjusted to erase original Gunter's biggest desire imprint and make it more compatible to current day Simon, something Betty tried to do ever since she ended up in Ooo.
@@Streifi "Maybe the crown could be adjusted to erase original Gunter's biggest desire imprint"
This already DID happen, because Betty even mentioned in the last episode that the crown RESET. Sure, the other gunter re-made an Ice King-like wish, but it would be a different wish compared to the one original Gunter made.
Meaning if Simon takes back the crown, we could get a different (maybe more passive) Ice King
Or if Simon finds a way to reset the crown again, it could be used properly this time, and with a more careful wish (As Prismo would hopefully be more inclined to guide Simon the same way he guided Jake on making a wish -- being specific and knowing exactly what you want to happen).
PS: Also, since the crown did reset, it also does mean original Gunter and the other wearers of the crown, in the inner maze -- are essentially also wiped.
@@cdagaming575 That would make sense. I wasn't sure how much it applied though, as Gunter (and the Ice Thing appearance) look kinda close to the Ice King, so I wasn't certain that the crown was fully reset as Betty assumed.
You could be right about it being reset properly, though. Gunter's look might be a coincidence or might be based on his memories of the Ice King.
But then again, I'm not sure if Simon gets to use this specific crown at all, since the Ice Thing has been featured in Ooo's far future. If Simon gets his hands on a crown from another reality, then it might still need to be reset.
Simon was the Ice King for almost a thousand years before the crown lost its magic the first time, and he seemed to recover quickly before revealing that he was set to die if he doesn't get the crown's magic back.
@@Streifi Indeed, Gunters look is different since it was how present Gunter saw the Ice King, rather then how original Gunter saw his Ice King. The difference being was besides a few instances, Simon was generally kind to Gunter and took care of him (Plus because of Orgalorgs influence, we know this Gunter is more competent).
So the main process of it was:
- Crown gets reset the first time, removing all its prior owners and clearing the slate
- Betty uses said crown, and the crown resets again -- since Betty merges with Golb while the crown gets spit out being reset again (It took longer to reset the first time, because of just how much history was being erased...thousands of years in minutes)
- Gunter then uses the crown, to be a different iteration of Ice King (As we would have gotten a similar result to OG Gunter, if it were the same wish).
That being said, because Ice Thing still exists in the future, Ooos crown is untouched. Meaning, either a new crown needs to be found without harming another universe (Since Prismo did mention his boss would hold him responsible for universe disruptions, like the Lichs hand escaping into the multiverse), or another solution would be needed without the crown (Either accepting the world wont be magical and moving on, or finding a way to have Simon become The Ice King without the crown -- which Prismo could do with a wish, but risks it being permanent)
Adventure Times Stories always amounted to a lot of fun. i've always enjoyed it
I miss finn and jake I wish they had an interaction with fiona and cake in this series at least.
i'm a big fan of the fact that this series is a genuine continuation of the story rather than being like a completely disconnected thing
I really hope simon doesnt give up his sanity. I know it's hard for him and him going back to ice king would bring back the magic to fiona and cakes world but he's been through so much I just wish to see him genuinely happy😢😢
I think that astrid is gonna wish for the fiona and cake universe to be real so that it can become an “official” universe and no longer have to be hidden
It felt bit weird how Fiona was so ready to leave her world, but was also worried about what would happen to it. It’s not like she said goodbye, or did she just assume she could go back.
I can’t wait to see prismos boss, they teased it nearly 10 years ago now. It’s one of the biggest adventure time mysteries that’s usually over looked
This series is insanely good.
God, I love Simon's character so much. I always have and I will be SO upset if he turns back into the ice king. My hope for him is that he can restore his power, but also keep his sanity. Kinda like a Hulk-Banner situatiom from Infinity War. He can still be Simon, but also the Ice King at once. That way, Fionna's world would be magic again, and hopefully Simon will be able to find his place in Ooo. I also saw someone say that they think Simon will end up living with Fionna and Cake in the normal human world, but I hope that doesn't happen. Sure, Simon would fit in more, but all the people he loves are in Ooo. So, yeah, those are my hopes for this series. GAHH I CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE
I honestly agree with this LMAO, I've been scrolling through comments lately seeing if I was just crazy or if people agreed with me.
My main hope right now is that there'll be some way for things to work out with Simon staying as Simon, as in the trailer, we see him stopping Betty at the bus. It would seem like bad writing to have Simon become Ice King as well, almost having a "escapism is good!" type of message.
And it would seem like a plot hole for Simon to become Ice King again because of Betty's wish. I guess we just gotta wait and see
I love your theory at the end. I really hope that Fionna & Cake end up staying with Simon and keeping him in check if he does go to back to being Ice King.
It deserved the IMBD of 9 its AMAZING
Also early...?
Since Fiona's world depends on Simon's existance, the only way to save it is to make Simon immortal again, likely as the Ice King, or to bring that dimension out of Simon's brain to somewhere where it can exist independently indefinitely. Or to cleave Fiona and Fin's worlds together where everybody just has to deal with the fact there's an opposite sex twin of themselves roaming around.
Anybody else spotted the Lich hiding in the shadows of the black and white world Prismo sent Wyatt to? He was behind Princess Bubblegum which reminds me of the time the Lich tried to breach the multiverse and had his hand cut off, essentially making infinite copies of him that invaded every universe. He's not gone yet.
Feel something bad about to happen,lich can't be eliminated at all.😢😢😢😢
@@finanailong He's like in every universe now. I don't know how they're gonna get rid of him, or if he's even gonna play a major role in season 1 of "Fionna and Cake" (which I don't think he is), but he is guaranteed to return. You don't just give the main antagonist of "Adventure Time" a random cameo after he's already been beaten for it to not be important. Super excited to see what happens next!
My hope is for Simon to become Ice Prince and have a deminished version of his ice powers.
I don't believe Simon will become the Ice King again because through his multi-dimensional travels he will learne how much good he has done as Simon and that without him the world is a bleaker place. like hell in the farm world. He's the reason the mushroom bomb never exploded. in Fiona and Cake's case, they'll probably come to terms with the fact that their world isn't magical, but the magic is in the friends they've made along the way or their dreams will take them to our OOO .worm holle style where they can interact with ours Finn Simon etc.
something interesting to note, the episode of Fionna and Cake aired way before Prismo was introduced as a character.
Simon's sanity returning changed Fiona and Cake' s fantastical adventure, into a mundane one.
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Now that explains why Simon wasn't in the episode "together again" he turned into a immortal again
He better not become the ice king again man. If he learns magic and becomes a wizard the normal way, awesome, that'd be really cool, but if he becomes ice king again, that means Betty sacrifice was for nothing, and his story has made me cry enough already in the main series 💀💀💀
It is a story about escapeism how fionna wants to escape to a magical place rather than face the reality and how simon still after decades is trying to get betty back rather than trying to adjust to the world he lives in
I'm not gonna lie here, but I like Fionna better when she wears a skirt honestly. I always love Adventure Time series since 2010 during my first year of High School.
A thing about the theory that Tessa might be Cyn, in the moment 3:14 of the episode dead end I noticed that Tessa has what seems to be a mechanic articulation to move her wrist, similar if not identical to the one of the worker drones.
Plus she wears a bow like the one of Cyn.
(I’m not completely sure because the grafic was quite low)
4:36 bro, _you can't just disrespect my man _*_Choose Goose_*_ like that!_
Living magic battery bird? Unbelievable!!!
Fiona and Cake reminds me Adventure Time and Bravest Warriors , both have same art and same creator but I'm still prefer Adventure Time cuz it's my chillhood and it have a lot of memories for me
Sometimes when we get well it’s scary. We think we miss being sick but what we really miss is the comfort of being sick, knowing who and what we’re supposed to do.
I would love to see him become Ice king temporarily just so ice king can meet Fionna and Cake and they can see why its such a bad thing for him
Prismo: "you're a little outdated" *casually reforms cakes DNA*
Watching this without having watched adventure time (only seen in clips or short lore vids) is actually pretty fun ngl
One question I have is that since it’s now established that Fionna and Cake’s universe is stored in Simon’s mind, does that mean it ceases to exist when he dies?
I love how great this series is
I love it so FAR
no ice king people in the fandom who want Simon to loose all control of himself and autonomy DONT care about Simon they don’t care about his mental well-being and I can’t trust people who think it’s the best option it isn’t there’s nothing satisfying about it I will not trust you you are cruel to want this it’s not satisfying I hate it don’t you dare
Haven't watched episode 3 & 4 yet but i am excited to see how the episodes go, I'll come back an leave my thoughts later
So prismo got bored made a universe then put it into ice kings mind becuase the crown served as a infinite storage?
Well it tracks for adventure time that's for sure
More like ice kings brain wasn’t being used for much so there was enough space to fit fionna and cakes world
i think its interesting that the end goad *currently* seems to be making simon the ice king again, because we know that Ooo's crown can't be used for that, the Ice Thing still exists 1000 years later.
I dont think he will become ice king again because it would make everything betty did pointless
She gave up her life to become a monster living in nothingness so simon can be sane again
So happy they made this.
personally i believe simon won’t become ice king again, instead however will use his knowledge of the crown, and dissect its key parts (the gems) to become the ice prince. i believe the crown works almost as a circuit board, while the gems are the battery/ the true magic of the crown. if fionna, cake, and simon are able to possibly collect a single gem from each variation of the ice king they may be able to harness its true power. to me it makes sense, the show has a ten episode run, we’re already 4 in and they release in sets of two. meaning each set of two episodes they could obtain 3 gems. 6, 8, 10. it’s a complete reach but i think simon is about to undergo a different sort of transformation- and that he might ultimately defeat the scarab with fionna and cake, allowing them to become part of the multiverse, not just a place existing in simons head. ultimately leading the ice prince to deciding to join the world of fionna and cake to continue to protect them.
Is there any context on why Simon has an evil choose goose or how he became evil? It's clearly meant to be him based on the voice and rhyming but something happened to him in between the main show and F&C
I don’t like the idea of them being made, I wish it was a different universe and somehow the ice king could connect with it so he makes a story about it because he thinks it’s not real
With the God Auditor, Scarab, there could be a possibility he could be manipulated into securing Golb and they run away with the egg capsule containing Golb for a plan near the end if forshadowed by Fin and Jake with the egg-shaped creature while fighting the Rooster King. Otherwise, Scarab could also have a parallel fate to what happened to the new Death in the spinoff series, steal a job they assumed would give them absolute power by killing the previous title holder, only to realize it isn't as satisfying and take themselves out with frustration or impatience.
Simon also has many potential fates so far until more is revealed.
1. Merging with the Ice Thing.
2. Stealing one of the three (or two now?) jewels of the crown and only going partially insane.
3. Choosing to stay in a normal reality like the one Fionna's was altered to, while Fionna either stays in Ooo or makes her multiverse 'canon', making the empty void around her hidden reality suddenly populate with other new realities of Fionna and Cake.
4. Less likely so far with lack of evidence, but somehow getting Scarab to trap Golb and rescue Betty for a happy ending.
5. Scarab eliminates Prismo, something eliminates Scarab, and Simon becomes the new Wishmaster in eternal slumber and persuade Prismo's old boss to create his own dream reality where Betty exists.
I wonder if the Aspect of the ice thing 1000 years later has something to do with this, considering ice king magic and insanity is what made their world like that. Maybe they could pass fiona universe to the ice thing head. Maybe thats why he is only a head 1000 years later? Maybe Simon needed his body to be magical again but without the insanity of being the ice king
I think it probably has a little bit to do with ice king Gunter, because cake did show a lot of interest in going to the ice kingdom. Him being a head later though I’m not to sure about that, I’d assume it’s his beard just getting that long. Because his hair is much longer than it was since the season 10 finale
That flap jack reference is everything to me
According to the adventure time wiki, adult Finn in episode 2 is 29, putting this at 12 years after the end of adventure time.
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The best things about Fiona and Cake are Fiona, Cake, and Ice Queen.
I really do feel sorry for Simon at this point. I mean first he was pretty much used by the crown. Turn into a nut job who's obsessed with kidnapping princesses. Then of course someone puts a universe in his mind. The girl that he love is completely out of his reach.
To be fair he agreed to it 🧊 king probably forgot or that is why he was show obsessed with them because he knows there real and they are literally inside his flipping head.
I Absolutely Love watching *Fiona and Cake* on Max! I Absolutely Love those two gals!
Did you really call evil choose goose a magic bird battery?
I really enjoy watching Fionna and cake
Sincecfionna and cake is a universe does that mean the litch will appear? Remember that one episode about wish finn and how he became the ice king. His litch hand got chopped off into every universe seen no one talking about it so why not comment?
I really dont like where this is going to be honest, Simon is finally free from the ice king and going back isnt going to fix his issues
Well, that's the conflict. If he can be free and happy without ice King. We'll just have to see how it ends
I still wanna see who’s prismo’s boss is?
Been wondering that for nearly 10 years 😭😭
I don't really know how important it would be, but I rewatched the old seasons of adventure time and saw that in the ending of S5 E8 'Mystery Dungeon' NEPTR does actually say to the ice king (even if it was only to console him) that his world and Fiona's world would meet, and the during this the ice king imagined it to be Fiona telling him this, maybe when NEPTR was powered up by Ice King and his personality was influenced by his magic, he was also given knowledge of the arrival of Fiona and cake due to Prismo's magic? again don't know if its relevant or anything but just thought I should mention it anyway!
SCRABBY is my favourite character so far! His voice is so cool
Cool video :D
I'm hoping for there to be a way for Simon to get his ice powers back while keeping his sanity intact, ( hey, that rhymed) tho that's just wishful thinking i guess.
I imagine it would have something to do with his sadness since you typically need madness or sadness to use magic
So like any thing that i imagine is it's own universe or Multiverse that wow mindblowing 😱.
3:22 he makes aus like how fandoms do
Huh, well, this was an interesting turn of events.
So basically, we are pretty much following the same Fionna and Cake that we were first introduced to in the Main Show, who has now quite literally escaped the FanFiction?
Huh, honestly, I wasn’t sure that that was literally going to be the case, but i guess I should’ve figured as much.
Anyway, it seems like our Main Plot and Objective is officially on the move now, I wonder how this will go?
This is going to be very interesting.
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I believe that the Fionna and Cake from Adventure Time was a show that aired before the mushroom war, and the Fionna and Cake we see in the show aré from a timeline were they are normal beings
You are literally told by the show how the world of Fionna and Cake cake as well as the people that live in it came to be and you decided to just ignore that, because…?
Nah the actual episodes from adventure time were real, prsimo made them, put them in simons mind. But when he gained his sanity back from being ice king, the weirdness left Fiona and cakes world. That’s why all the gender bent characters are still there but now just normal.
I say simon( formally ice king)
Or prismo he could possibly make things into a reality but with some risk and conqeinsdeces
Ethier way fionna and cake are real now
Seeing how good the series is turning out makes me wanna subscribe to HBO max.
@@Mrcharles.
Ikr
I love this video!
If he gets his peace with Betty he may become a totally different IK
Ice king will return but not crazy, prismo will help him not to be crazy and i feel that prismo will get promoted and the red guy hunting them will be the new wishmaker, and fiona and cake with the iceking will go around the multiverse to stop people from crossing over, yes the red guys old job will be fiona and cake also iceking new job, thats why we never see iceking in the main universe because he is not there anymore he is with fiona and cake solving multiverse promblems
im finally early but uhhh keep up the good work
What ur opponents about helluva boss ep 6 season 2 for me it gonna be wild.
the ending of episode 4 though
I am looking forward to more eps! We did not watch all Adventure Time eps, only catching them in passing. I would like to follow this one more closely if possible. I just wish we had to not depend on streaming instead of having the eps on good old Cartoon Network.
Hmmm handshome ice king? Is that world when Gunter not messed things up and user able to control it and granted immortality without side effect?
No one going to mention that not only Finn is an adult, but that Jake is dead?
Oof, wonder how would Marceline react to the return of Ice King.
Is Simon gonna take the farmworld crown?
That’s what it seems like but that’s gonna cause more problems because that crown is keeping the farm world from the mushroom war
@@tizzellit2368 but it already blew up right and prismo put it at the bomb explosion to destroy it.
I bet they're going to put Fiona's universe in the ice thing's head
You know...im wondering if their universe will be moved into the Ice-thing's head crown....seems like the more obvious place since hes like the ice king now
Ok but my main question is. WHERE IS THE WORLD IS MY LIL BUDDY BMO!!!!
why is no one talking about flapjack being A PRE-UNIVERSE BEINGS LIKE THE LITCH TO THE ADVENTURE TIME UNIVERSE
Season 5 episode 15 marceline kicks a remote in the apocalypse with Simon and looks like prismos remote?!
That bird is dark Choose Goose.
I like this new reality now. Turns out Ice King wasn't some weirdo who had the hots for his own character. Nor!? Was Fionna and Cake made up by a Mad Man. Turns out Prismo the Wish God! Made Fionna and Cake himself. Buuuut it was illegal to do that, so he put his creation into Ice Kings head. He did ask for permission. So ice King thinking he Made up a universe. Turns out?? It was a real Universe in his head that he thinks He's made up and had an Idea for a Gender Bent version of Finn and Jake. This Honestly bothered me over the Years of Fionna and Cake being Ice Kings brain child.
Simon trapping himself in the Ice King would be a slap in the face for what Betty tried to do for him, so I am against that.
i think theyll try to find a workaround
i agree, theres gotta be some other magic loophole later on, it would feel so weird just going back to the start essentially
Didn't Betty say the crown had also reset itself when they were being digested y Golb? Meaning that it doesn't have the curse on it that makes the wearer akin to Evergreen due to Gunters wish?
I'm not gonna lie here, but I like Fionna better when she wears a skirt honestly. I always love Adventure Time series since 2010 during my first year of High School.
Yeah no ice king people in the fandom who want Simon to loose all control of himself and autonomy DONT care about Simon they don’t care about his mental well-being and I can’t trust people who think it’s the best option it isn’t there’s nothing satisfying about it