Demi Lovato Spills Tea About The Jonas Brothers and Ex-Wilmer Valderrama Fallout
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- Опубліковано 9 січ 2021
- Here's why the #JonasBrothers and #DemiLovato aren't friends and why her and #WilmerValderrama broke up! ... at least according to Demi. In this video, I am analyzing Demi's leaked songs 'Ain't No Friend' and 'Sorry' as well as exposing some tea behind the meaning behind these songs! #JoeJonas #NickJonas
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Glad you guys are enjoying this video! UPDATE: The second song I talked about, "Sorry" which was a leaked song at the time, is actually on Demi's new album, Dancing With The Devil... The Art of Starting Over! It's on the Target version of the album and it's called "I'm Sorry". Let me know if you heard it!
YESS! I'm so glad she decided to officially release it!
U guys should be ashamed of exploiting Demi’s dark life. She is a troubled transgendered person of color. Shame on U!!!
Here's a harsh truth from someone with similar issues to Demi.
No one is obligated to stay with you, as friends or more. No one is obligated to help you deal with your issues and if your issues are affecting them on a mental health level themselves, they have every right to take a step back if necessary. The only stronghold you need in life, is yourself.
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Exactly!
I agree. I've been on both ends. The whole "true friends stay with you no matter what" is really problematic. I've had to cut off a best friend of 6 years because I just couldn't take on her issues while dealing with my own. I tried for a year but she kept shutting me out and pushing me away. That affected me a lot. I couldn't keep the both of us going. I felt so guilty after ending our friendship though, thought I was a really bad person for "abandoning" her but really, she abandoned me too while pretending she was there.
Yes! I was about to say this. My kids dad is an addict and we’ve split up recently because of it. To him I’m being “unsupportive”
I told him, “ go to rehab, I support you through that”
Addiction makes you selfish.
That being said, her feeling are valid. But addicts put there loved ones through hell. Not everyone can deal with that.
From someone who has also been there, I get what your saying. No one is obligated to go down with your ship...but at the same time your true friends will ALWAYS be there for your when your picking yourself up & doing good. One of the ONLY good times about blowing up your life is that you figure out who your real friends are super quick...
Addicts tend to blame everyone who leaves them after they’ve scorched the earth. I have empathy, but actions have consequences- and that includes losing friendships.
I think that she was more or less speaking about fairweather friends and people who take advantage, but ok...
100% with you
I have no doubt in my mind she is also toxic af. Most addicts are. I don’t blame the Brothers for wanting to step away from that. It’s depressing and exhausting being around addicts and their toxicity and mental instability. Even they tend to get abusive because of their addiction
I understand where you are coming from but true friends stay till the end, atleast they could have tried to help her out and tried to stay in touch but I also know that can be hard so yeah.
@@favouradis No, if you’re toxic friends don’t stay until the end. Sorry, but friends don’t owe you shit and don’t have to put up with your bullshit if it’s hurting them. Sometimes there’s a limit and you have to be selfish. I used to have a depressive friend who I tried to help as much as I could but it got to a point where she wasn’t even trying and just downloaded her shit on me. Not to mention the lack of self awareness and willingness to work on herself and all the toxic situations and mind games she got me involved in. I had to think of myself and what was best for me. Clearly her company wasn’t.
After Joe, Wilmer, Max... I hope she’ll meet someone who really cares about her heart and not about her money, fame or God knows what else ❤️❤️
She’s engaged now
@@karlaf3077 To who?
@@karlaf3077 no
She needs to be on her own and love who she is first..
@@karlaf3077 no she’s not......she was engaged to Max but they broke it off last year
Tbh it’s difficult to be and stay friends with addicts. It’s not even just the lifestyle it’s the perpetual lying that’s so exhausting. If u ever have a friend who is really affecting ur own mental health, there’s no shame in leaving. I dunno if this is what happened in this relationship though since I dunno all the facts.
Right? It’s just I think sometimes she keeps victimizing herself when it comes to all her relationships that went wrong. “All these people fucked me over, I had to remove them from my life because they’re toxic” sort of mentality. Which can happen. But relationships go both ways. I had this sort of mentality back in the day and with a lot of therapy I realized it’s not always like that. People in my life have their own agency and life and feelings just as I do. And I sometimes decide to remove myself from situations I feel are very bad for me. That can be painful to the other person and they can see it as me failing them... but I love me more honestly. It took a lot in me to stop pleasing people and staying around people who did more harm than good. A lot of people left my side when I was dealing with severe depression. And honestly? I don’t blame them. I was on such an emotionally draining state. And I think that ended up affecting other people around me. I stepped out from relationships where the other person was in my position because I couldn’t fully deal with it. So I can’t judge people doing the same with me. We don’t really know what happened, and even when I’m a very impartial person when it comes to these things, lately I’ve found myself not trusting her narrative. So if this was the case, I wouldn’t blame Nick at all. Or Selena (if that was what happened). Who knows. She’s very “transparent”, but at the end of the day everyone has their narrative. Everyone has a villain in a story, and that villain can perceive him/herself as a hero in their own story. So we’ll never really know. All this is pure speculation.
@@mirandajones7816 again I can't personally speak or make judgement on Demi because I'm not a fan, don't know anything about her and haven't been following all of this. But I'm glad you found therapy, I recently found it as well and know how powerful it is. Thank you for sharing your story, it helps combat my fear that this vid was vilifying people who leave unhealthy relationships. I agree, it's sometimes good to remember that there may be another side to every story. Good luck finding your path and I wish you all the best.
I agree I don't think anyone should be mad at Nick or anyone that left. I personally have experienced this personally, my father is a addict and a alcoholic. At fist It's truly hard to keep hope and not give up on him, but I did. It was best for me, it was exhausting and bad for my mental health. For me it was one of the best decision in my life. I see were the ppl come from when they leave addicts and "give up on them" It's exhausting
@@reyacoats450 sad to hear about ur father. I hope one day he realizes the thing that really matters and you keep making more good decisions.
@@reyacoats450 for you. It’s so much easier to leave someone with an addiction than it is to control ones own addiction. It’s not your battle, but would you want to fight it alone? It’s empathy.
im sorry but it’s very hard emotionally to be friends with an addict. i think it’s very fair if people stop being friends with someone like that. yeah it sucks, but sometimes you have to step back
Exactly! Why would Nick have to carry the burden of being with her while she herself sank deeper and deeper into her addiction? She made the decision to relapse into drugs, to surround herself with people who let her do whatever she wanted, like getting high or getting drunk, it is not Nick's fault, that world is toxic and he made a good decision staying away of that world
I completely agree. She talks about how people abandoned her, but the emotional toll addicts take on you isn’t healthy for the friends mental health. I’ve had to do the same in my life with friends that became addicts.
This! Thank you. Unconditional love does not mean unconditional acceptance of toxic behavior. The Jonas brothers all have families now. Part of being a good partner and parent is safe guarding your family. I’m fully aware addiction is not a choice but it’s also not fair to expect loved ones to subject themselves to lows that come with it.
@@Savage-7980 I mean, she’s a hypocrite. Because she herself talks about how toxic it was to be around her addict father and that she had to cut him out because it was doing more harm than good to have him in her life. And yet people are bad guys for choosing themselves over her draining situation.
Finally, some mature individuals on here. People go on about how honest Demi is, yet all of her documentaries are the same. She and family & friends all admit how good of a liar Demi is & she hides her drug use & other destructive behavior. Demi wasn’t even allowed to see her younger sister until she got help so why would anyone think it’s bad for friends to get fed up and walk away from her constant lies & toxicity. Nick has type 1 diabetes. Maintaining a healthy physical & mental lifestyle is crucial. He was right to choose health & cut her off.
At the end of the day, I sincerely hope Demi can turn her life around. But based on the Dancing with the Devil doc, it doesn’t look good for her. She’s still flip-flopping between blaming others then saying she has nobody to blame but herself. Same words, same behavior as her older docs. All anyone can do is pray for her & wish her the best of luck.
About Demi and Nick, I have to say two things.
1. The Futre Now tour: Demi was returning the favor. Once, the Jonas Brothers helped her to get a spot/name in the industry, she benefited from the household name that the 3 brothers represented. Later on, Demi was the big name and Nick benefited from her fame to kick start his career again. They both benefited form each other, case closed, everybody move on.
2. Demi has had a few relapses/low points do to her addiction and other issues she deals with (btw massive respect to her for being a fighter). The Jonas Brothers, specifically Nick, have been there for her in the past many times, as friends, to support her and give her love, the friendship she needs. That being said, when she relapsed the last time and OD'ed, Nick wasn't there anymore to help or visit her. Can we blame him? I think the answer is NO. He is a human being, and as such, you have to take care of yourself first. He probably didn't want to be stuck in Demis drama again because honestly, its depressing, and we can't blame him if he needed his distance just to keep himself safe and happy.
Basically, its that typical situation where parents tell their kids "that friend of yours is not good for you" or "choose your company well".
Nick probably needed his safe distance, specially because he could have been dragged down emotionally with Demi, specially because now we know he was constructing his relationship with his wife. What I mean, and people who've had experience with being the support of someone who deals with addiction or depression will understand, sometimes, that person you love is in so much pain, you start feeling really sad and depressed as well because it is dark shit. They indeed start dragging you down the same darkness, at least for a while, until they get better.
So honestly, a rocky and messy relationship with Demi wouldn't have been a good thing to bring to the table, when your sole focus should be on your own health and the woman you love. She comes first.
In conclusion, I think Nick was not around to help Demi out during her latest relapse, because he didn't want to be affected emotionally by it. And he really can't be blamed for taking care of his health first.
This is my opinion, if you don't agree, I respect your opinion, but it is not necessary to respond to me, never the less insult me or anything of the sort; just a reminder to those who might want to "clap back" just because they don't like what I wrote.
I know that, it is just sad that after all those years, they weren't there for her when she needed them the most. I mean if I ever fight with my bff and never talk to her again but later I found out she was about to die, I would put my pride aside and be there for her, unless she did something unforgivable, which I doubt, but still, they were so good friends and it sucks not to see them together like old times.
@@olenkagamboa1djb But I think they didn't fight before she relapsed. I think they distanced themselves, BECAUSE she relapsed. Meaning, I don't think it was a matter of putting aside their pride to be there for her; I think it was a matter, of them not wanting to go down the same road.
I had a conversation about this with an acquaintance of mine once. He was saying that he expected his childhood friend Max to be there when he relapsed (he is an alcoholic). He was obviously pissed because he really felt like Max hadn't been a real friend, he had been there for him in the past, but not this time around.
I remember telling him (and if I could I would say this to Demi as well): Don't you think it is blatant of you to take him for granted and expect him to be there every time you fuck up, instead of understanding that it is not his obligation to take the shit you and your addiction put him through, but instead it is YOUR obligation to keep your shit together?
I followed the question with: Don't you think that being around an addict is depressing and you and your episodes are making him feel depressed? And that maybe he was just not in an emotional state where he could deal with YOUR crap? Do you think it truly is fair to expect him to be there every time, putting you first instead of himself and his happiness or emotional state?
To be honest he didn't respond, but I could see his gears turning in his head, contemplating the possibility that his opinion was completely biased (one sided) and that he hadn't stoped for one second and tried to understand or see things through Max's eyes.
I think this is the situation with Demi and Nick (the Jonas brothers). I think she doesn't realize that despite the fact that they probably wanted to be there for her, they simply couldn't because they had to put themselves first (their health, their emotions, their wellbeing, their family. Specially Kevin, I wouldn't want my kids to witness any of her addiction and all the shit-storm that comes with it; that is a terrible influence for a kid). And I think she doesn't realize that she probably shouldn't have expected them to be there, but instead she should just keep her shit together; specially thinking of her younger sister. Imagine what a toll it must be for Maddie to be put through this situation over and over again. I know Demi has issues outside of her control (to a certain extent) but that doesn't excuse her to keep ficking up and putting her family through so much pain, every other month/day/year. Imagine if she had kids. Should they stand by her, be around her, every time she relapses? I honestly don't think it's fair to expect people to stay besides addicts and be there for them endlessly and unconditionally. It's toxic, and nobody deserves to be put through that much suffering.
Thats my opinion though. But I do appreciate yours, and I do understand it and see where you're coming from. Thank you for your comment :)
Finally someone with a brain! Nick had a right to walk away. Nick was trying to mend the relationship between him and his brothers and also starting a new relationship.
1. Tbf as far as returning the favor part goes I feel it's not a similar situation. Demi might at the time have been a smaller name but she was signed with Disney and it was a Disney tactic not something the Jonas Brothers gave her...On the other hand when Demi toured with Nick they were both solo artist not under any obligation to tour together for any promo. I guess she might have felt like as a friend she should give back to him but the situation was very different. And if I am honest I feel that the video narrator definitely makes it a bit more dramatic is not like Demi didn't understand she was helping him out or she got tricked
How can people say that the Jonas brothers walked away from her? She was in a very bad place, manipulating the shit out of everyone, completely out of control. She wouldn't accept help. Who said she wasnt the one who pushed them away??? I dont think we can say that. But i do believe that it must have been hard for them emotionally to stick around, cause demi's issues are heavy and it can be hard to relate/understand someone going through that much suffering when you're not feeling the same thing. I think it's a very complicated and delicate situation. Demi has some serious illness, stuff that are out of her control, it's hard to deal with. I think she's doing the best that she can, but sometimes our minds just like to sabotage us. I feel like she's constantly on a war with herself, and that must be so hard and painful for her.
I really really hope she cares about her core issues before getting into another realtionship. She deserves the world but she has to get her shit sorted first
I’m pretty sure she does if she didn’t she would’ve gotten married to that creep Max she knew she deserves better
This comment is so spot on! Yes! She needs to really work on herself first, she jumps head into things very fast without really thinking.
Love her self...
The hell you know she deserves the world???
She was 17 turning 18 when she dated Wilmer and he was peaking 30 what a freaking creep it still has the word teen no wonder it didn’t last
He also dated Lindsay Lohan when she was 17 and he was 24 but weren’t public until she turned 18. Seems like an alarming pattern 🧐
@@raymagliacano6144 ikr that’s a groomer right there and a certified creep
She liked him too. I don't know it depends of circusntances
He didn’t want anything to do with Demi. She went after him and when she was 18 she got him to date her.
Wrong. He didn't want anything to do with Demi until she was 18.
if there's something that I'll always admire about Demi is on how transparent she is about her issues and how she speaks about them through her music.
I agree. Such a refresher from the usual BS we get from celebs
She’s so rare
@@ScandalousMediaTea People & even Demi herself have said that she can hide very well what she's going through or taken. It still comes out in her music. So I think we should all listen to her closely & clearly.
The Jonas Brothers were there for her too, she overdosed and they said that they advised and support her and she didn't want to follow the advise, or wanted to be helped, so practically you can't make someone follow your advise when that person denies it.
Addictions are like a disease I find it totally toxic to tell someone that if they relapse everything they done so far means nothing. Actually most addiction specialists will tell you that a relapse is part of the process and they try to explain that to the addict as well, that although they will try to prevent it , it will most likely happen and it doesn't mean they gotta give up. Supporting a person who is suffering from anything means you gotta be ready to take things with their pace and not how you want them to be.
@@user-ri4bq6kv5i tell them again to the back
@@user-ri4bq6kv5i Who the hell wants to be around that toxicity? I sure wouldn't. I don't keep toxic people in my life. Demi needs to stop acting like an idiot.
Just to add! At 6:22, the lyrics were "Don't forget when you come back around". "Don't Forget" and "Back Around" are songs from Demi's 1st album and Demi co-wrote these two songs and more with the JoBros! Also, she actually performed "Don't Forget" with Nick once at the Greek Theatre in 2012. That performance was their first time singing onstage together after Demi's rehab stint in 2011. Just thought those were some nice additional little easter eggs. Thanks for this video ladies! Love ya!
Great addition, thank you so much!!! We love you more ❤️❤️
I liked the video until you blamed Wilmer for the status of Demi’s sobriety.. Demi would be the first to tell you the only person responsible for her sobriety is Demi. I understand toxic relationships can contribute but at the end of the day we alone are responsible for our sobriety..
Nope
Here's the thing, Demi isn't an angel. I love her music and love that she's been showing out for a lot of issues. However, if there's something I've learned these past few years is that not everything is what it seems. I'm not going to really defend Nick, Demi, or Will because I don't know what really happened. Im literally so cautious of taking sides after the whole Johnny depp situation. So long as everyone's healthy and keeping their boundaries now, that's all that matters.
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼....People do grow and change and a lot of times it takes ppl to different paths.
Check out her documentary she released a couple days ago. It’s crazy she’s been thru so much.
@@bb29957 I've been following Demi for years. I have an understanding, as much as an outsider looking in can, about Demi and a lot of her struggles. I just don't want to blindly believe in one person just because I admire or respect them. Im not saying she's wrong or lying, I've just learned throughout the years how complicated these things can get. Which is why I made my original post. But to answer your question I have, and Im really happy she's alive today and wish her the best.
Yes! I was about to say this. My kids dad is an addict and we’ve split up recently because of it. To him I’m being “unsupportive”
I told him, “ go to rehab, I support you through that”
Addiction makes you selfish.
That being said, her feeling are valid. But addicts put there loved ones through hell. Not everyone can deal with that.
I really feel like Demi blames other people for her downfalls a little too often. I mean 3 documentaries saying that you were high during the last? I get addiction is a sickness. She won't get out of it until she quita having yes people around her. She's much more difficult then she thinks she is.
classic narcissist
but she never blamed anyone else for what happened
@@user-jz2gv1ie2w She can't but she does it in these passive aggressive ways.
The typical you weren't there for me when I needed you the most why doesn't she realize understand that they were there butt at one point you just got to walk away if you just don't want to see you really got to focus on knowing that she wear them out the addiction wears you out the people around you that are trying to help you if you don't want to get to help they have to walk away
She never said that she was high on her 2nd documentary, she was sober and miserable. Also, she never blamed anyone for her problems, she specifically said that no matter what other people have said or done she is the only one rensposible for her actions.
And there’re still people out there insulting her for just being honest. Guys she’s not fake nor faking it
😂😂😂
Demi told in an interview that her song I wasn’t ready for ya is about Wilmer . And I believe that this song is saying everything about their relationship.
I think Demi is really really sensitive and needs alot of attention and needs people to be clingly but as there's probably no one in her life that does that, she's even more fragile. She's jist gone through so much shit. Too much
Drug addicts can not have a relationship with another addict..its triggering and co dependent...and there is no hope for recovery until the addict realizes that they are the responsible party for using..you can't stay in a toxic relationship then blame the other addict..she got lucky most addicts dont get the chances she has been given and do not get brought back .
She had said in her video she was clean for 5 yrs or 8yrs because she was with Wilmer. That he was her rock. That doesn’t match with what you say your unnamed source said. No way she’d stay clean if he was using. She also said she wanted to learn how to be strong on her own without him. I did understand but found that not a necessity for her to break up with him. She admitted she still loved him. I don’t believe she would give him such a compliment if he treated her so poorly or lie about him being her rock. No he didn’t put a ring on her finger and did quickly with his fiancé. That doesn’t mean he treated her bad. I think the song “Tell Me You Love Me” has some correlation with their relationship. She is talented. I hope she stays well without anymore life threatening experiences.
But why did she liked hateful comments, tweets about him on Instagram before the release if the i ♥️ me music video and shaded him also in one certain scene? Strange strange...
I think Demi broke up with Wilmer because she wanted to let go of her chaotic past and also realized that he deserved someone else but she still loved him. She’s so strong. It’s not easy to let people go who you love the most. Love her songs Stone Cold, Crybaby & You Don’t Do It For Me Anymore, their messages are underrated.
@@Nick_kin probably because part of her didn’t want him to move on. Also a person can develop resentment when another is trying to get them to change things when they don’t want to be told what to do.
@@JazzyJan15 no matter how hard we’ll try, we will never know the truth about them...gosh
@@Nick_kin was it back when she had relapsed and we didn’t know? Bc her last documentary she raves about him a lot and talked about how she was her best self and never binged or did drugs etc when she was dating him
i dont stan any celebrity and i barely listen to demi but she seems like that ride or die friend that will do anything for you but she has so many issues on her own and you take them for granted. she deserves better in life
Exactly
i feel so much for demi. i hope she finds people who truly love her and wont use and mistreat her.
To the people who keep saying its hard to be friends with an addict. Well yes it is and sometimes it is best to walk away. But with Demi it wasn't the case. Demi was sober for 6 years and she was surrounded by toxic people. Including the jonas brothers, her management, phil and wilmer. She is real strong to stay true to herself and sober around users. But when this strong person starts to take a stand and make changes. The toxic people don't like that. This causes heart break and disappointment then relapses happen. The important part of all of this is her will to stay sober and get better. The jonas brothers used her. And this video and the other one proved that. Don't dismiss demi because she is an addict. She is an addict that wants to be sober and get better. If you guys want to dismiss someone then dismiss Phil, the jonas brothers and wilmer who used her and walked away. They are the fake friends that should be dismissed. Not Demi. She is a giver and was not at fault. She was in a toxic environment. She trusted the wrong people. People who hated her. Aka Phil. Phil used and manipulated demi and the jonas brothers. the difference between demi and the jonas brothers is that one was favored above the other. Phil favored the jonas brothers. And manipulated them. But they are NOT children to know right from wrong. They should have chosen friendship over toxicity. it just makes them toxic too.
Thanks to tell the truth.
all i can hope is she lives a long happy life doing what she loves even if that means she leaves the public eye
Same
She will never leave us. She is money and fame hungry.
@@patrickm8894 everyone's fame and money hungry patrick no need to point it out
If she thinks every person in her life is going to be perfect, she’s always going to be disappointed... I see her making a lot of judgement with her own fair share of problems. 🙄
I'm guessing you saw the Demi Lovato Froyo drama
So did I! Screw the spoiled-rich Demi Lovato for threatening to sue The Big Chill just because she felt like she couldn’t my get a FroYo making the Jonas Brothers look like hypocritically misogynistic assholes for not wanting her in their lives anymore!!!!
Addicts. Yes. People have no obligation to stay with you, bla bla bla.
But you know, there's something that been said by my family through generations:
"You will find your real friends and people who truly love you, when you're on the bottom of pedestal. Not when you're on top, but right on the bottom."
It's not limited for addicts, being a jobless, homeless, orphan made me face those people. Friends. Lovers.
When they learned I'm homeless, they gone. I got back to my feet, but losing a job, they gone again.
So I personally say, "go girl, find back yourself, move on and be happy. Also, don't let those people or anyone like them, come to you again." God bless us 👍🙏
I love the Jonas Brothers and Demi but I really don't think Demi has ever been a reason why the Jonas Brothers were revived or blew up at any point in time.
I think she’s also mad because the brothers are still close to Wilmer
I don't think they're that close. He wasn't at their weddings so. I think they're just friendly, like back in the day they were close when Wil and Demi were together and they were still friends with Demi, but not anymore, however theyre still cordial and friendly toward each other cause there's no beef, that sort of thing.
Demi seems to place blame on everyone else... I think SHE may be the problem.
THEY*
it’s extremely difficult to be friends with an addict and someone who is toxic to you. they had every right to step away from their friendships with her. I don’t blame them. they have to put themselves first and do what’s best for their mental health, they dealt with her ups and downs for year and years.. sometimes people just can’t take it anymore and need to walk away.. and that’s ok!!
I went through this myself recently, my best friend who I considered to be a sister became and addict. She turned into a liar, cheat, and emotionally abusive person towards me and those closest to her. I tried to help her for years but after being hurt over and over I couldn’t do it anymore for my own health. This video seems to as usual glorify Demi. So tired of people calling addicts brave, without considering how their addiction hurt those around them. The people who tried to help you are the ones who were brave.
@@sgtigereye yes exactly!!!!!
I agree. I actually chose to break off the relationship with my brother for the same reasons. Growing up he used to emotionally and physically bully me, all the while doing cocaine and drinking alcohol. It made my already terrible anxiety worse, and it wasn't until I was 26 I finally said enough is enough. I tried hard in my adult years to help him, even after everything. But everytime he was offered help he wouldn't even attempt to try it, and it became impossible to just sit back and watch.
@@trashtv6138 I am so sorry you had to go through that, it’s hard to walk away but you can only do so much and at some point you have to start considering yourself. People who are addicts recognize kind people and they take full advantage because drugs start to run every aspect of their life.
@@sgtigereye I agree with you completely, addicts are very good manipulators. The way he treats my mother is disgusting but she has that unconditional love and it's very hard to watch her suffer for him. But we have tried to get her away and she just can't do it. I have deep sympathy for addicts, I've watched one for 17 years of my life ruin his own life, and I know what it does to a person. But I cannot forgive the destruction and torment he caused to myself and everyone else around me. I just wish my mum could do the same. She's getting older now, and I'm terrified the stress of him will put her in an early grave.
The thing is , especially with the jonas’ , they’ve been with her when she had her first overdose at 19 , they have been very supportive throughout everything, so when she relapsed with even harder drugs it became harder to be her friend, not that Demi is a bad person because she isn’t , but from a friends point of view , it probably got too much to handle and too heavy , yes you have to be there for your friends when they’re having a hard time and they were with her , but after a while you also have to think of yourself as the friend in the situation, you can’t always be there you have to think of yourself too , and her overdose in 2018 was probably the last drop of “ok , I need to remove myself from this , it got too tiring and I need to think of myself too” I don’t think it came from a bad place , it’s just a situation where you put yourself first , it also doesn’t mean you remove them completely from your life , you just decide to distance yourself from them so they’re life and decisions won’t effect your life , cuz when you’re friend with an addict or a previous-addict who’s relapsing , it can be very emotionally draining and tiring
An ex-friend of mine really struggles with an eating disorder and it got to a toxic point where my she clearly didn’t want any help and unintentionally drained the life out of me... I had to remove myself from that relationship and trust that the other people supporting her would help in ways I couldn’t. Definitely not as extreme as a drug addict, but what you said is really relatable.
Probably the same thing that happened with her friendship with Selena as well.
I am so grateful for you, that you shared Demi’s documentaries. They are relatable to me; as far as, being bullied, abused, raped and a lot of other things I don’t want to talk about.
If there was a way; please, I’d like Demi to know, by her displaying her courage to own her own demons, battle them, and be able to talk about it on camera, gives me hope & a bit of strength to keep going.
Also, thank you for your documentaries. I refer to them, at times; and then I feel less alone.
God bless you, Demi Lovato, and everyone who put this together.
I adore demi but it's interesting that you framed the narrative the way you did . Distancing your self for a drug abuser who is in and out of toxic relationships isn't abandoning a friend as you so framed it. I'm sure if they had enabled her behaviors it would have gone the same or worse.
Well whatever it is but if u think getting in relationship is only for fun and u cant even help someone from getting out of it snd think it as exhausting.. Then noone can help nobody
Great video!
Song analysis suggestion: Ariana exposing her relationships, cheating etc?
Thank you so much! And great suggestion, I’ll do one on Ariana :)
She and Dua should collab asap🖤⚔️💛
yaaasss DLs supremacy but I hope people won't say that if the song becomes a success, it's dua's impact and if it becomes a flop, it's demi's
I think that Dua and Demi's duet will kill it on the charts!!! And they will both SLAY!! They will both score a #1hit
Yesssss
Reggie Mae who will say that,? Before demis OD, her SNS single doninated the chart not even DUA LIPA songs can touch her unfortunately she OD and the hype stopped
@@crow0924 not everyone is smart like you 💛
Demi is a strong warrior, I don’t know and I don’t care what happened between her and the Jonas brothers, her being happy and healthy is what matters to me
This is what an addict does. This is emotional manipulation. Whose to say he wasn't there and then tried the tough love route? Sometimes you can be there all you want and they'll still self destruct. She's still self destructing now. She needs major help and if she doesn't get it she's going to die!! Its that simple! Addicts are selfish and thinks the whole world owes them something. Its sad but very true. This coming from an addict. It was everyone's fault but my own. Once I got sober I realized the truth.
It's a hard truth but I agree with you here.
I get what you’re saying, but you’re also making it seem like this is ALL an addict is ever capable of being and that they can never change or become better. Not everything is so black and white. An addict can be an addict and struggle and still be manipulated and abused by a partner, friend etc.
You’re not taking into account the fact that Wilmer literally dates teenagers habitually. He started dating Lindsay when she was 17 and told her that keeping their relationship a secret made it more special. Mandy when she was 16 and started dating Demi when she was 17. He purposefully went for young, vulnerable not even of age women. He’s got a track record of it and it’s not something healthy that normal people do. He chooses an age range that is easy to manipulate so it’s not as if there’s no truth to him being manipulative and twisting her thoughts.
Yes addiction makes people do and think horrible things but he’s literally not innocent. Just because she is an addict doesn’t mean she is invalid.
Hey I got an idea, how about you dont categorize all addicts into the same group, k? Thanks.
U seriously learned nothing by getting sober if u put a whole group of ppl into a category of selfish ppl🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️. Addiction comes from pain. It’s usually a trauma response. U make it sounds like an entitlement. As Gabor Maté said the question is not why the addiction but why the pain. And yes pain at times can be consuming that all u see is ur own but it doesn’t make every addict selfish 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
awesome content about an awesome person. just let me state the fact that the pr stunts. ON POINT. love it and it made me laugh a little because some people think that this doesn’t exist
thanks so much for making this, we lovee demi 💗💗
Do you have a link for her song sorry cuz i can't find it anymore
I think the song was unreleased because she no longer feels that way. She was a manipulator and pushed people away. The Jonas Brothers probably got tired of being manipulated and couldn't handle her going down the rabbit hole again.
I don’t think anyone has seen SLO4N UA-cam video about how Demi’s management team had used her to get The Jonas Brothers to stardom, and then they forced her not to eat because she was too fat, The Jonas Brothers chose her abusive ex over her,etc she was being abused and neglected by her so called best friends and management team go check it out.
Ok
How can I find the song Sorry? I want to hear that lol
This sounds so familiar...I was also with my ex 5-1/2 or 6 yrs, he too promised me a ring, but while he could be super into me at times and v generous, he also used that to control me and- yep, got engaged to someone else soon after dumping me. And yes, he still texted me for a long time after, which set me spinning every time💔As much as I adored his attention & friendship I had to tell him to stop, it just broke my heart over and over again. I think he liked having me on the back burner, and I held hope that he'd change his mind and come back, if I played along. Pretty dysfunctional in hindsight, and I really feel for Demi.💗 happy for her having the strength to move on, but you can see how deep it cut.
With the Jonas brothers, she was struggling, growing up and suffering with addiction. Many in those situations lash out at friends and fsamily. Sometimes they don't like how they support them (not enabling), sometimes the people have to step back for their own mental health, and sometimes the addict's perception is just off with all around them. That ia more the expected than 'big drama'. I wouldn't be trying to read more into it, though the kids who don't have the life experience to understand more will buy any created drama for your payday.
I remember reading something saying that the Future now tour was meant to be Demi and Adam Lambert. but she would have traded it for Nick.
Anyone else notice her song “ruin the friendship”? Almost sure that’s about nick. The first lyric is “put down your cigar and pick me up” nick is known to post himself smoking hella cigars. The next lyric is “play me your guitar, that song I love” 👀 need I say more? Obviously this is just a theory but I made those connections and I think it’s about him. Also when she went on Ellen around that time to promote the album I think Ellen straight out asked her “is this about nick?” And she neither confirmed nor denied, and just giggled. This was way before nick met priyanka too so I think there might’ve been something
“No I Can’t Keep Denying Every Minute I” from ruin the friendship. It’s all there clear as day 💁🏻♀️
I always thought it was about him too, and wondered why they had a falling out. I kinda fee like Priyanka might have not liked his and Demi’s relationship/friendship. Didn’t they stop being friends shortly after he got with her?
@@ashleybobashly92747299210 yea, that’s what I noticed!
@@ashleybobashly92747299210 SAME!!!!
@@ashleybobashly92747299210 Lol.. why are you dragging Priyanka's name in between Nick and Demi's relationship? Priyanka's not a little kid who gets insecure of their friendship . Let's not forget Nick approached her first,he knows well friendship and love. Whether Priyanka likes their friendship or not, Nick is mature enough to make his own decision if he wants to continue his friendship with Demi or not. And here you're acting like as if Priyanka forced Nick to break their friendship.
Demi wasn't invited to Nick's wedding so there's that too.. 🙄
If you don't talk with someone is weird to invite them
This is the first time I’ve heard you talk. Whenever I read your posts, I always heard the gossip girl voice lol
Haha yeah we had a voice reveal in November when we were invited on a podcast
so everybody in her life has been a bad influence, bad friend, bad bf, had ulterior motives towards her...really? tht speaks more of her thn anyone else´s, love her to death but im sick of this "im a mess bcs of others" situation, in order to truly love someone she must truly love herself first and if she thinks some relationship (friends or bf) is too toxic for her, she must cut it out on the spot and thts tht
Right you have to get the other peoples POV it’s a lot to handle to be friends with someone with so many issues . There’s 3 sides to every story
I don't expect the controlled drinking and smoking weed is going to work out very well. Never seen it work for anyone yet, not if you are truly an addict. I have seen people who were heavy drinkers or drug users that when they had a reason to want to quit, they put them down and were done. That is not how addiction works. An addict can have 100 good reasons to quit and cannot find the clarity and determination to stop.
The truth always lies in the middle, probably someone with low self esteem and pure relationship models will be attracted to the wrong ppl, feed into toxic situations.
I’m pretty sure the song about Wilmer is on the target exclusive version of her new album
Well we saw how Jonas bros kicked Miley to the curb lol I am not surprised. Squeaky clean reputation at all times
Nick Jonas has got the Orion constellation on his face I have got the Big Dipper on my stomach LOL
She's following all of the Jonas Brothers on IG now
*Edit: Just Joe and Kevin
OMG! Really!! I'm going to check!! Ahhhh 😱😱😱😍😍
@genesis mitchell Kevin too
I saw Demi and Nicks tour. Nick was cute but Demi was the star. That was obvious. No one was talking about Jealous after that show.
It's so nice seeing her thriving right now🥺 these men did her wrong and she didn't deserve it
oh yes they all did little angelic demi wrong...wake up no they didn't go and try to even talk to an addict for a month and see if you stick around
TMYLM music video makes sooo much sense now
This is all some serious speculation. If you want to get technical Demi and Nick were both doing pretty damn well during this time. Nick’s song Jealous was at the top of the charts around this time. In my personal opinion, they were both doing pretty well. He had no reason to really use her. I do believe he back off when she needed him during this difficult time, but some people don’t know how to handle the hard parts of life. Demi was going through the ringer and he couldn’t give her the support she needed. That would be upsetting to anyone. I also have had friends who only stuck around for the good and never the hard stuff. I understand how upsetting it is and how disappointing it can be. I think it’s absolute BS though to just assume that he/JB were using her. The whole reason why Camp Rock was such a big deal in the first place was because the Jonas Brothers were becoming huge.
I think you’re missing the main point here - Demi took Nick on tour when SHE was the bigger act and Nick wasn’t selling. Camp Rock was in 2008. The Future Now Tour was in 2016. You really can’t compare JB’s stats from a decade ago. It was merely a business tactic that happens all the time with stars. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing bc it was beneficial for Demi as well. It’s just that... the aftermath of everything Demi did for them only for them to drop her during their comeback. Obviously also basing this on her songs
Demi is the bigger star. She was back then and she still is. She is an icon and Jonas Brothers aren’t that famous at all. At least not in Europe
From what I can see, and i of course don't know any of these people personally, but Demi seems like a people pleaser to me. I feel like that's why she ends up with abusive or manipulative people and doesn't see the red light because she just wants someone she can love or someone that loves her
Hey girls!
I've been a fan and a loyal reader of the blog for a few years now. And i wanna congratulate you on this channel's success🌹 I was thinking about this Demi/Nick thing earlier... Found this video of them dueting and When you compare it with previous performances she had with Nick it really says a lot. ua-cam.com/video/DlisyALux1o/v-deo.html
Is “The way you don’t look at me” about Wilmer or Max?
Wilmer
wow that’s wild about the song about nick!! i didn’t know any of that
Most of Wilmer's ex girlfriends are younger than him. Demi was the youngest by 12 years. It all seems consensual so it's none of my business but at the same time, he really is that type of guy.
I’ve seriously always thought this... like why did he always date the youngest stars. Mandy Moore, Lindsay Lohan....
@@nfbconnect i think it’s cause the girls were easy targets since they are naive
I get what you mean at the same time being attracted to someone younger or having that type doesn't necessarily mean he is manipulative. What got me thinking is that he seems to go after ex addicts as well, if you look up his past which is a really specific thing and usually addicts have attachment issues to begin with. But in order to be clear Demi has said herself that she was the one that made moves on him at first and actually attended a show just to meet him in person. He actually didn't do anything about it for a year since she was underage.
I love Demi’s music and sound. Some of them give me strength or make me cry, in a good a way.
Ok you're making serious and wrong accusations here, and here's why it's false: The jonas walked away from her because she went back to using again. Nick Jonas has been in a relationship everytime he's been close friends with Demi lovato. FLASHNEWS: Demi lovato is on good terms with Wilmer. They told her it was the last time they'd be in their life if she ever used again and the jonas did.
Sobriety is not black and white you will relapse it’s a daily struggle if the Jonas brothers really cared and loved her they wouldn’t abandon her
@@janablowers2653 you’re not even old enough to understand addiction. Nor do you have a psychiatric PhD on addiction. You just watched a documentary (which I liked a lot btw that doesn’t mean I can’t see through the dangerous message they’re trying to give) in which they say it as such and you believed it (easy to see) which was actually orchestrated by scooter braun. A man who does disgusting things behind the scenes and then saves careers of questionable people by doing PR through using filmmakers for it. it was whitewashed and they went as far as trying to normalize a former alcoholic drinking amongst other stuff and people like you literally swallowed it. I did like it, I like her voice, that doesn’t mean I don’t see what they’re trying to do.
@@andyalexrauff6535 I wasn’t attacking you I agree they did that for that reason and I don’t buy anything ,this video doesn’t add up but my point is if you truly care about a person you will help them through their hard patch , you don’t have to have a PhD in it to know addiction is a lifelong struggle I know who scooter Braun is don’t assume I believe him but I do think he has helped her he’s very shady I never thought she should’ve signed with him
@@janablowers2653 i wasn’t attacking you either. I’m sorry if it came off that way, my point was that you literally give out the impression that you swallowed the full spoon of what they said. I like her as a musician (tho I don’t listen to much of her music, her voice from my professional stand point is just too good) and I enjoyed the docu, but its means are questionable to say the least and it seems to me she just signed with scooter cuz she needs cash and a good damage control team (He did the same when it was revealed that justin bieber did awful things as: Defending chris brown, defending braun for what he did to swift, mistreating and spiting on his fans and so on, while he also saved Grande when her diva ways and the doughnut incident happened) It seems honest and at the same time a huge dishonest PR move
@@janablowers2653 Addiction is as bad as ED’s and I know what people have to endure dealing with others that have mental disease. You’ve no idea how hard it can be so you can’t judge the Jonas guys for doing so.
if Wilmer's sound was written in 2017 why in 2019 she did a live with him?
They’re toxic with eachother lol you never cussed out an ex and then talked to eachother again ? 😂
What im going to say is not a fact but most of the time when a young person (man or woman) is with an older one (like 7-10) that relationship is mostly toxic... and it seems like that at one point.
I agree. I think it’s about power and control dynamics.
I AM SO EXCITED FOE HER NEW ALBUM
NOT CAMILA AND SHAWN'S PHOTO WHEN YOU SAID "FAKE RELATIONSHIP" HAHAHAHAHAHA
😂😉
I saw part of an interview that Wilmer was in and when Ryan Secrest brought up Demi the vibe I got from Wilmer made me not like him. He seemed kind of arrogant and like he thought he was better than her.. I didn’t know if it was just in my head because everyone was saying how cute they were together. I think he’s a prick.
yeah any time someone quickly gets married/engaged right after a break up like Justin Bieber & Wilmer Valderrama it shows narcissism. I believe you.
Does anyone remember the moment they were introduced to Demi Lovato? I do- and it was my first concert seeing the Jonas Brothers and she was the opening act- after watching Camp Rock. Funny enough, she was the 'supporting' act for this boyband with lots of screaming girl fans (including myself) but when she hit that stage we all realized who the true star was. Demi has always carried the most talent, but has had to be the back up or support for the Jonas Brothers. And in her lowest moments, Nick wasn't there to support her. This is how they decide to pay her back- even after she went on tour with Nick to promote his new solo album after she became a huge star on her own. It's a shame but I understand why there was a fallout.
Does Demi have any long lasting relationships that she doesn't blame anything on them for ? Just wondering bc everything I see/read is about how they victimized her in some way. It's never her fault the relationships go wrong!
Demi sacrificed her most successful Era for someone who didn't deserve it, yikes
Wilmer is the crazy type of ex not only did he get engaged and impregnated to a Demi look alike he was also lurking Demi and Max fan pages while he was engaged 💀 his obsession is just as crazy as Max obsession, Joe he’s a loser, Nick is only doing it for the publicity and money.
Where are you getting this information from?
Did Wilmer really lurk into Demi and Max's fan pages last year? I really want to know!!!
@@kiwi791 proof from Instagram when I was active on it around that time
@@rebeccaalonso8264 yea a fan paged posted it
DUA LIPA x DEMI LOVATO
🖤🖤🖤🖤⚔️💛💛💛💛
You just stated you had multiple sources for these things over the years since 2013 and people still commenting “you don’t know that for sure” lol
Demi Lovato’s song “I’m sorry” is about her relationship with her former dealer not Wilmer. She O’D after his new engagement, She was genuinely happy with Wilmer.
How do u no
yo i will pay for that song to be on the radio just to expose all those toxic ppl
Never date someone who you love more than they love you. No doubt in my mind that Wilmer most likely verbally abused her. But she and Wilmer revealed she was the one that asked him out and he said no 3 times because she was too young when she asked him out. She needs to be wise of the friends and lovers she chooses. It must be hard to date someone with a drug addiction as well.
The thing is is that this sounds a lot like the blame game.
Nick Jonas, I’m not actually a fan of his music but I really don’t think he NEEDED Demi to promote his music, and it does seem like the two toured because it was fun for them, I mean yeah it was obvi business as well but it was clearly because that wanted to as well and they both wanted to please the fans.
Their friendship: people forget one friend can’t revolve around the other, and ALWAYS be there, sometimes you have to think about yourself and honestly I think it sounds draining being Demi’s friend. Maybe Nick just needed a break.
Demi has lots of people in her life, if one person can’t be there for her she has plenty others.
And it’s good that Wilmer didn’t propose, there was obviously a reason and it wouldn’t of worked anyway, he clearly saw that.
Jonas Brothers didn’t need Demi for their comeback 🤣🤣
Just like she doesn't need them. That's the whole point she's telling people about 😂
I’m looking videos about Demi and I came across this one, and I saw your channel name and I think “damn what did Selena Gomez do?? 😳”- Selena Marie Gomez... I can’t 🤦🏻♀️ lol
She just deserves to be happy... period. She needs to wait for the perfect guy. ♡ she doesn't deserve any less.
I'm worried that if Demi keeps lieing she will end up alone.
Whuut? She sid in her documentary that he was the kindest person and they broke up bc of her needing to learn more about life. That song could be about anyone
I had always loved demi and her smile....i grew up wanting to be like her....i love you demi 😍🥰😘 no matter what..i trust you
I lost any respect I had for Nick after seeing him on Kevin and Danielle’s Reality show they had a while back. He was so arrogant and selfish. Kevin and Dani were talking about wanting to start a family and Nick was getting mad and only worried about what it might do to their band. This was not long before the break up up and I’ve always wondered if that’s not part of why he wanted them to break up.
Yes. Watch 'Chasing happiness', the Jobros docummentary, they made it very clear there that Nick was being an as*hole to them at that time, there's even a conversation where Kevin cries because of those times. Nick can be SOO cold.
The clock from Future now cover photo looks a bit like from Demi's new album song 15 minutes video, no?
Mmh but Nick is still and will always be relevant.. So much more than 15 minutes of fame
@@MilaBelen True! I was just wondering if there was a hidden meaning behind it.
alot of these comments make me wonder and understand why most of us stay quiet on abuse. physically or mentally. people will always Victim blame and find a reason to turn shit around and say "u wanted this" " you looked for it" and dont understand how every part of ur life can affect it.
You make a good case
First off, I love Demi Lovato. I'm on her side. I've been a fan since her Sunny With A Chance show on Disney. Demi is a self proclaimed addict. She is going through the passage in her life where she needs to call out everyone who ever did her wrong. My prayer is that she gets through it and comes to the place where she stops blaming anyone else. Her father. Selena. Jonas. Wilmer. Her coping mechanism is broken due to substance addiction or whatever. Everyone goes through these break ups. But the rest of us are not celebrities. We may or may not have mental issues including substance addiction. But we quietly either crash, or rise from the ashes. All of these kids grew up in an impossible situation in front of cameras, fame, money, etc. It's amazing any one of them will find a way to leave it all behind, and be grateful for all the lessons and leave it all behind. This moment is all any of us have. Make the most of it.
i dont know about nick using demi as a way to promote the jonas brothers cause i went to the future now concert and (maybe my concept of time is OFF bc of covid and how everything feels so long ago) there was a huge gap between that tour and them even deciding to come back as a band. please feel free to tell me otherwise like i said my concept of time maybe off but it felt like there were at least 2-3 years before that.
also i feel like nick jonas already had his come back with jealous in like 2014 right?
i feel like it's more about how he wasn't there during her relapse and recovery
Hey, could you do a video on Dua Lipa please?
Sure!
I kinda feel like it’s always someone else’s fault or someone else that’s the bad guy... Literally all of her past relationships, people at Disney, The Jonas Brothers, her previous management and friends... Like maybe she’s her own bad guy
True, she could have used their support but please-think about it! If people see them REPEATEDLY hanging around a recovering drug addict what do you think that will do to their image. I would like to say it doesn't matter but it does. They are also all married now, it's not just them anymore Demi. Did they feel bad- probably- but as many times as you've done this they probably decided to finally just call it quites and try to salvage what they can. Nothing personal but they saw a sinking ship and.......
I'm not an addict but I do have bipolar disorder and manic episodes suck and you fall and have to get back up, you can't blame people who couldn't hold on while your falling.... Get back up and don't blame anyone.
Sad that theyre not friends anymore but... The jonas brothers needed Demi 🙄
The jonas brothers made demi famous... if they wouldnt have helped her by letting her touring with them im sure she wouldve had a much strangled road to fame...
AND Selena was offered Mitchies role but said no so Demi could have it... and now Demi trows shit to Selena 🤮
Im sure theres two sides
But Demi doesnt seem to remeber those who helped her to fame either...
I understand why they left demi's life, since they were probably having mental problem bc of all was happening. I just thought that nick would stay there for demi, since their friendship was beyond all of that, they knew each other since they were kids, he knew everything demi was passing thought. But again, if he didn't feel comfortable around that environment, it makes sense.
Well family or frds need in bad time.. Even if u have addiction.,this isn't a reason as exhausting or problematic..bad situation is problematic,thats how ppl save each others and i will also say that addiction which we glorify in the name of choice is also a problem too
I really like her for being so talented,bold and gorgeous.I understand why C.Aguilera or her team choosed Demi to collaborate with