I've been wanting Ciri as a protagonist since we got to play as her the first time. I'm not entirely convinced she needed to undergo the rights, but I'm willing to hear why she did. I do miss her with the greenish eyes, I think the yellow eyes completely changes how she looks, but we'll see how she looks in-game. I am cautiously optimistic, because CDPR has show that they can blow the launch of a game like the rest of them.
She didn't NEED to undergo the rights, she wanted to ever since childhood. And it's basically the only choice she's ever been offered instead of forced upon her. I think it makes 100% logical sense.
Kinda wish they gave her shiny green cat eyes instead of the yellow ones! But she does look badass with them and she looks even more like Geralt’s daughter which is what I think they were going for.
@@Slvrbuu I quite like her eyes idk, now Ciri plays like a witcher, it will feel better as that is what you want from a witcher game, all these cool gameplay features having her with her elder blood powers or another way wouldn't have worked, there is a path to reach to her reaching the witcher stage, it will probably feel natural when we play it, i hope so anyways if done right
To be fair a lot of cyberpunk biggest launch issues was that they tried to force it on older consoles. Granted there was a lot of other stuff kinda missing and whatnot but the game was pretty competent and solid on good rigs and the next gen consoles. And at least they kinda got it there to a good point. Also curious how much of an overlap the teams have also. Hopefully they just learned the lesson that their cyberpunk fudge up could teach them
Knowing that Geralt ended up with a nice house on a vineyard living with Yennefer while Ciri is out there being a Witcher, writing her own story, makes my heart warm.
Don't forget that Geralt in the cinematics of The Witcher 3, both the introduction and the advertising, looked totally different from the one in the game.
exactly and not only in witcher 3 in 1-2 aswell, that what i say to everyone voicing concerns about her face. but i have some problems with her becoming a mutant, i hope cdpr has a good explanation for that.
100% agree. This comes from someone who's entire high school (Liceum) got addicted to the Witcher due to our Polish teacher including The Witcher into our lecture canon. He even showed us ORIGINAL copies of the Fantastyka magazine with the first ever printed (1986) Witcher stories. Back then he himself was a student and the Witcher made him fall in love with literature, so he decided to become a Polish / literature teacher. Oh, and he cosplayed for us Geralt (that was like 15 years ago). How fckn cool is that? The Witcher for us Poles is so much more than just a story. Its a reflection of our history, worries and feelings. For a lot of us the Witcher was the key to process and escape our troubled past and strive for a better tomorrow no matter how fcked the world is. The Witcher is pain and pain is feeling alive.
I have to tell you, I absolutely loved getting to know a bit of your folklore throughout the series! I adore how rich and full of depth the Witcher world is and how CDPR has done such a good job in translating the books into the games! Thanks to them not only me and a lot of the world got to know a bit of your world and I really cherish that!
The beauty of that trailer was seeing one of my favorite characters in gaming growing up getting older just as I am as well. Immersive game worlds like these have that effect and I couldn’t be happier to see our girl take up the mantle geralt passed on.
Im personally okay with ciri being the protagonist. She wanted to be a witcher like her pops geralt. Even if he wanted a better life for her as one comment above said. In my witcher 3 save he had a sword made for her so she coukd start on her path. Im so looking forward to seeing how she does in the witcher 4. We still have a score to settle with the witch who stole vesemirs medallion
@ryanzod6986 for real? That would be an interesting thing to have happen. I think in my save he took his wife to a hermit in the mountains to see about undoing what the witches did to her. Even though I am okay with ciri being the new protagonist I do hope geralt returns to. In my save he has a house and such in Toussaint and is living happily with Triss. I can't stand Yennefer for how she treated him in the books lol
I agree with everything you said 100% there’s been a big baldurs gate 3 sized hole in my heart ever since I played through it. My friend asked me before the game awards what game I was hyped for and I was like “umm ghost of yotei? I guess?” I was so excited to see the Witcher 4 announcement and have that feeling back. And I nearly screamed when I saw Ciri was the protagonist. She finally has a chance to live her life the way she always wanted. I’m so proud of our girl ❤
Yeah, Ciri lost her elder blood when she went into the tower to stop the wild hunt. So the ending where Geralt gives ciri the silver sword is cannon ending. She did mention that she lost her powers but geralt told her that she can be a Witcher.
@@PowerDragon999 Really, Damn i didn't even notice that even after completing it so many times, it kinda blows past your head if that is the case, being a fan for so many years, you miss these things rip
Where is that in the story? I don't recall seeing that anywhere. In the "canon" ending we see Geralt getting her her own silver sword and her embarking on the path.
@@jaredpilbeam6988 I don't but it could be true, there's nothing to say it is or isn't i think from what i remember but i'd need to see the ciri scenes in tousiant again, we need to do some research
All of the above is in the Witcheress ending except about her losing powers. There was no scene like that. In fact both the sequel comics & the new trailer confirmed she still very much a powerful source & probably even more in controlled.
Trial of grass in her age? Well i think the game need to explain this, otherwise it will like Palpatine in these new star wars movies something like: Somehow....Ciri become a full Witcher.
@FraternityOfShadows I've unfortunately seen a shit load of losers complaining about her appearance. Which is crazy cuz both Geralt and even Eve from stellar blade looked different from their promo material. It's like people suddenly forgot or don't care about context. That being said, I think we need to ignore these people. Even this video doesn't need to be made. It's giving Ghost of Yotei energy but like that, I ignore dumbasses.
@@ibannashfully agree man! This is all becoming parodic now.. there isn’t a single release they don’t come after, unless the protagonist looks like Titus, or a hot female lol. I mean look at the uproar over Eve in Stellar Blade’s bikini getting a slightly different design 😂
@@ibannash I have seen alot of those comments aswell but most of them are being heavily disliked which is probably why others don't see those types of comments. I also kinda agree that this video isn't needed since there really is no drama, just grifters griting but Lua doesn't even talk about that drama in the video just her thoughts on other stuff which I'm personally cool with.
You are clearly lucky enough to be spared of dezembro's videos or some other dude whose name is elluding me but has some roman wanabe references. Personally though, I also think her design in the trailer is ugly, but it wasn't until I brought it up with a friend who's an uber nerd dor w3 that I learned this did happen with prior witcher trailers. I think there's reasons to be apprehensive, but from apprehension to outrage is a HUGE leap. I was disappointed by the facg Alteori, who's normally pretty reasonable, did a pretty hysterical video about it and then followed it up with a coping sesh about people giving her pushback that was equally charged emotionally.
There are thousands of comments written by what feels like a same perosn. They always point out the same idiotic arguments under any video about Witcher 4. And they are incels, bigots and so on, they are anti-woke brain-dead morons, who exist only to hate on stuff.
Always love your positivity. I cannot wait for Witcher 4. With that said it probably won’t be released for like 4 years, I know how long CDPR likes to cook. I’ll wait 😊
"I realized I had to stop fleeing. Realized that if I wish to change anything, I cannot do so hunting monsters round forgotten villages. I must do so from there. From Nilfgaard." -Cirilla of Cintra The Witcher 3, 2015 This is the biggest slap in the face for me, my tears were wasted. Why even make games with choices if they can't follow through it?
I definitely agree with you about well written female characters. There is an opportunity here. We'll see if they meet the moment or girlboss too close to the sun.
@@anitaremenarova6662 It would be really disappointing. I think Ciri is one of the most complex female characters in literature. I'm stoked to playthrough a well put together story as her.
I'm agree 100% with you. Ciri is too OP as a main character. Even Andrzej Sapkowski had to nerf her in the books bc she was so powerful. The problem is that in the trailer, she doesn't seem to be nerfed. I'm worried that their explanation to that could be very dumb.
The question more so is the threat she will face. In Witcher 3 it was the wild hunt and Gaunter’o’dimmm and a vampire lord so they will have to be along those lines to give ciri a proper challenge.
How much drama was there, really? I feel like it's a thing on the Internet to see a few people tweet something and we turn it into "drama" or "controversy". But honestly, I doubt there are very many people who care that Ciri is the protagonist. Anyone who enjoyed Witcher 3 likely enjoyed Ciri's role, they wouldn't be opposed to seeing more of her.
@@Fatalitix3 Anti-Woke are having a field day but if you aren't on the internet 24/7 or you aren't being recommended culture war content you aren't really going to see any "drama" The subreddits are discussing theories and the lore around witchers but outside of that most people are looking forward to the next game. It's a 2 minute teaser so there isn't really much to speak about.
@@dr_diddy Polish creators that could be labeled as anti woke are optimistic, it's only western tourists that are crying. They also see Criri as ugly and masculine for some reason, I don't see how
@@Fatalitix3 I guess we didnt play the same game since you can't tell that she was normal built to being bulked up for 10 years + with added silverback jawline not even geralt was that huge literally🤣 & dont get me started on the lore makes no sense looking like netflix ingame 2,0. Deffo not goty game like witcher 3 was. I actually care about this lore & serie / game so i want them to do better. But its obvious you don't 🤣 "i don't see how" try using your eyes then hard to miss no? 😂
@patriklundvall3296 what? She still looks very lean in the trailer. I'd understand your comment if she had a god of war body or even Abby from the last of us 2. She is smaller than that.
There shouldn’t be any drama we knew ciri would be prominent in Witcher 4 when announced and we knew Geralt would retire in Witcher 3 since almost a decade ago.
Agree... seen Ciri in her new appearance, more mature and, worn out, make me wonder, what she have passed, lived, seen all those years? Makes her interesting. There is beauty in seen how her character ark is also in her appearance.
Ciri's face does look off in the trailer, not ugly tho. But Geralt's face was way more off in TW3 cinematic trailers so I don't mind at all. My concern is what happened to the plot, how did Ciri go through mutation when she's already an adult and a girl - both of which are no-no for mutation.
The disconnect for some people i think also comes from the choices they've made in game especially the endings, head cannons are different for a lot of people mainly because of what endings they got and it's no surprise if they don't like it because the choices they've made aren't reflected in the next entry, For me personally it's too early maybe they can still do something about it. This is also the problem with making established characters make choices in game, there's often a disconnect between "Player Choice" and "Character Characterization" one good example of this is the age old debate is it yen or triss? Book geralt will never pick triss over yen because of the amount of backstory that geralt and yen have and yet in some people's head cannon it totally makes sense for them to pick triss so massive disconnect there. Imo for a game heavily themed around choice and consequence it's best to have a commander shepard like character that players can shape themselves.
may I said in the started of every video I am looking always for hearing your talk cause I enjoy it but always when I clicking on the video your beauty hit me so i just want to say you look amazing also I want talk about the witcher One of my favorite series ever to be honest, I felt exactly like you said, I felt proud to see Ciri grow up and hearing that someone else felt the same way brought me joy.
Low key hearing you talk about how she’s grown up made me tear up, it’s such an amazing experience to grow together with your favorite characters and franchises
A lot of people are just jaded by the recent discourse. That’s a really good point though about mature looking characters and the ability to project mature themes with their looks.
I don't have a problem with Ciri being the new antagonist, passing the torch. I'm used to Ciri's vice in Witcher 3, so hearing her new voice is jarring, but I'm slowly coming around.
There are a few weird renders of her and villagers in the trailer but I really like her desing, shieldmaiden type of beauty, reminds me of Cerys - and maybe it isn't a coincidence as Cerys originally was supposed to be False Cirilla adopted by Crach.
That is what I thought. The trailer looked a bit off when you compare it to other trailers from CDPR. I think they hastely put together a trailer for the awards to generate some hype But yes, the shild maiden look of Ciri is amazing, I really like it
My thoughts about her powers and how they might explain their absence in TW4: She loses it by fulfilling her destiny by stopping the White Frost and/or she loses it by undergoing the Trial of the Grasses. Both would be fitting and be completely logical within the world and the extended lore they build around the game charachters and everyhting else. Personally, I absolutely do not care at all how they will explain it and I tell you why: I'm a father of 2 unimaginal incredible and beautiful girls and I'm loving them to death. They are the best thing that has ever happened to me, and I literally couldn't imagine a happier life to live in ever. I love my wife, but I would literally die for them. The reason why I'm telling you this is, one of the happiest days of my entire life was, when my youngest daughter decided to follow in my footsteps becoming a traditional carpenter master, to work in our almost 300 years old family company and take it over from me at some point. I've never felt so proud in my entire life and this is anything I ever could wished for. So seeing Ciri also following Geralt's footsteps makes me actually tearing up. The only thing I'm a little bit afraid of is, if I will find enough time to play the fourth (and possible fifth and sixth) game. That's my only concern regarding the games.
I can understand some of the complaints about Ciri's looks in the trailer for one at least to me if it wasn't for the scar and the ashen hair I wouldn't have known it was Ciri it looked nothing like her from the Witcher 3 even aged up from what I could tell but it has been awhile since I played last. And in my opinion a downgrade but not bad so to each there own not a big issue. My big issue is the lore breaks cause by having Ciri being a Witcher and not just being on the Path. For one everything we know about the trail of grasses one doesn't work on adults and two she had to stop taking the elixirs or whatever when she was a kid to prepare her to go through the trail of grasses because it was harming her if I recall correctly aka on Triss's orders. Also girls tended to die in higher number from the trail so it would be extremely dangerous so I don't think her loved one would approve which would have a major influence her decision to under go any Witcher mutation trails. Now one that not sure people realize that making her a Witcher would break a fundamental rule the the Witcher universe. Destiny is Absolute. The reason she was important in the books was not because of her power but because of her elder blood or AKA as we know it today her DNA that carries the Elder blood. And it was destined that the linage of the elder blood would unite the land and rule over it. Which is why everyone from the Wild Hunt to Lodge of Sorceresses to Emperor Emhyr were after her and trying to control whom she had offspring with. Which if she becomes a Witcher she would become infertile unless they decided oh no this trail of grasses didn't make her infertile. Or you could have the ending to the books that was hinted at be Cannon and she is just a terrible mother abandoning her child in another world and never mentioning them. Not to mention without her space and time magic she would be hunted down and given to a prince in the north or back to her father. And don't act like now that she doesn't have the space and time magic she would be able to out run them. Hence why Yennifer, Geralt and Ciri decided to give in to what lodge of sorceresses wanted at the end of the last book before the events the led to the start of the Witcher game series. Doesn't mean it will be a bad game or that the story they have is bad just some warning signs that this might not be lore accurate and that they are entirely deviating from aspects of the Witcher universe and that some things will not make sense. But I might be entirely overthinking this lol.
It has been 9 years since the Witcher 3 release and most likely be another 5-6 years before Witcher 4 releases so Ciri looking a little older makes absolute sense. Looking forward to playing as Ciri since the time in Witcher 3 playing as Ciri was way to short for me.
In the trailer, when Ciri enters the canyon, you can hear geralt say something about a ritual that worked and Ciri saying "I wasn't suppose to come back" so I think they used a ritual to bring her back from the world with the frost. Maybe because of this ritual she lost her elder blood abilities like the teleport (I mean, why isn't she using it in the trailer) and as a replacement she undergoes a different type of trial, maybe with the laboratory under Geralts Villa in Toussaint and/or the help of Keira and the Lynx school..there is so much to think and speculate about, Ciris new and older look is the least interessting topic 😂
Como um grande fã de longa data da franquia, eu compartilho da mesma opinião, e surpreendentemente o que eu mais vejo na internet são pessoas comentando sobre a aparência nova da Ciri, mas não do problema de como encaixar um personagem tão poderoso como protagonista e conseguir deixar o jogo interessante e desafiador. Enquanto aguardo o TW4 lançar, vou jogar o thronebreaker que acabei de comprar por sua recomendação, já que confio no seu bom gosto pra jogos
Yes! People are upset they might have made Ciri weaker, but wouldn't it be boring to play an overpowered character? They have to either nerf her or introduce some new strong adversary to keep it interesting instead of a slasher game.
When it comes to story CDPR has never let me down. I'm going to sit back, preorder when I can and wait until it's out and in a good condition. Then I'll just enjoy it. Same thing I did with Cyberpunk.
The Witcher was always about a gritty, dark and straight up horrifying world. Ciri looking not line your standard supermodel is completely warranted. She saw some sht, experienced sht and now is carving her own path.
The main problem people have (in Poland at least) is the lore problem about the mutations. In the books Sapkowski wrote that most of the girls didn't survive (in the school of the wolf at least). The way i see it, the new seen school of the Lynx (the medallion Ciri is wearing in the trailer is a lynx) could just have better alchemist or something like that.
@@Dekarowski25 there’s also the fact that even in the books Ciri has powerful plot armor known as elder blood. I could see the fact that she has that combined with her elvish legacy being key to her surviving the trials similar to the deformed elf guy we put through the trials
@@GravenAshes yh, I gonna presume she gains mutations but loses her powers. The games have never followed book canon 1 for 1 so I'm looking forward at what CDPR comes up with.
If you look up female witchers the info I've found said they used to be rare but did exist then after the Second Conjunction the Manticore school created a formulae the allowed.more.people.to survive the trials including Women. This is CDPR lore but they've been writing their own lore since the first. Game. If book lore is only lore that exists then the games do not exist.
It could be better alchemist's, new methods and discoveries, idk how hard the witchers would've tried or to the extent or they might've just given up easily idk, an elder blood explanation too
Yeah and I'm pretty sure that he said that in the first trials all men women and girls died with only ~6 boys surviving. It's more like they didn't try again with girls
One of the many things I loved in The Witcher 3 was to see the interactions between Geralt and Vesemir. We saw other Witchers on the game, but none of them, beside Geralt, passed to me the same impression of lethal power like Vesemir did. There's nothing that can substitute the wisdom obtained by long years of experience. And to imagine something similiar involving Geralt and Ciri is awesome, i can't imagine a better way to continue this history!
I feel you, I haven't been so hyped for a game release since BG3. The quest, character and story I have complete confidence in. The combat, leveling/ skills systems and exploration is something they need to improve from the last game. The places of interest (question marks on map) had a chore-ry feeling to it.
The Witcher 4 trailer has like a 12 to 1 like to dislike ration. People love it. We have a tiny handful of Book/Lore purists and the Hyper Anti-Woke crowd shouting and trying to make a scene. But they aren't getting any traction. The vast majority of players are excited about Ciri as the main character. She looks fine, and this is a trailer . . . her look will be different in the actual game anyway. CDPR has a good track record. I trust they know what they are doing with the Witcher 4 (and 5-6). The hate noise will blow over and be forgotten.
That's the thing though - they are not "book\lore purists". They made up a problem with the lore and are not everywhere just to shit on CDPR. None of their points are genuine.
This "drama" feels like a whole load of nothing. It just feels like people who don't really care about The Witcher wanting to whine about a woman being the main character. This was always gonna be the next logical step for the series. That being said, I know we're still gonna be waiting for a while, but I'm looking forward to TW4 and seeing Ciri becoming a full witcher
No, it's the fear of another studio going woke. CDPR has been good, but has the DEI and ESG stuff on their site. It's pattern recognition of the ideology. I certainly hope I'm wrong, but it happened to huge franchises. Star Wars Outlaws, Forbidden West DLC, Dragon Age Veilguard. Look, I want Witcher 4 to be great, but this trailer is scary. Also, it reminds me of the series. Let's hope I'm wrong.
A based rational take on the internet? ILLEGAL YOU MUST BE PURGED. lol. Gaming needs more people like you Lua I am glad I found you through BG3 and can't wait to take a Witcher 4 journey with you as well. There is so much potential and hopefully CDPR does what they can do and have done before and we get an incredible story.
Ciri being the protagonist works for me. Sure did i love playing as Geralt for 3 games? Absolutely but Ciri being the protagonist is fine by me. It was like the people complaining about Kiryu not being the protagonist in like a dragon 7 and it being Ichiban. Kiryu had been the protagonist for what 7 games at that point including yakuza 0? There comes a point where you gotta let somebody else take the lead and this time its Ciri's turn. People can either complain and not play the game or give it a chance and play it. Theres really only the 2 options
I expect Ciri to have a different playstyle than Geralt or generic make your own Witcher. That's what I'm looking forward to. Hopefully it's well written as well of course. I feel CDPR have always done pretty well with the choice and consequence writing.
Thank you for bring up Thronebreaker. Meve is one of the best female protagonist I have ever seen in any media. The character is not a flawless ruler. She made poor choices in the past. One of the best example is neglecting Villem that lead to his betrayal. I also love the supporting characters in Thronebreaker, especially Gascon and Ado. Heck, they even did Eyck justice, not like Netflix making him an absolute joke. Thronebreaker is a prime example of how CDPR can do woman protag so well and I have high hope Ciri will be a well-written in next Witcher game, despite I do have some mild concerns about her OP-ness and the whole witcher mutation process.
I'm on board with Ciri as the main character, but I wish they focus more on her Elder Blood abilities instead of making her another Witcher. She was easily capable of hunting monsters as herself, and I fear this decision to give her Witcher powers will make her feel like Geralt but with a female skin (especially considering how similar they already look with the hair, scar and now also the armor). They also better come up with a damn good explanation as to why she would so callously go through the trial of grasses after finally not having to worry about the Wild Hunt.
I agree on the point where if we are to have a female protagonist or even any kind of protagonist, then make it a good and well-written character. Game devs shouldn't just make a character to fulfil a quota, there should be an actual meaning and purpose to those characters being chosen as the protagonist. And CDPR has yet to fail in delivering a well-written character so far for me. Also the beauty standards! Do people know that once upon a time, plump women were seen as desirable? It's because they were seen as healthy and fertile. Nowadays, people want skinny models and any sign of plumpness is seen as fat. Beauty standard changes with the era just as how certain societal standards change with time. My only complain with TW4 is why Ciri? I honestly thought we were going to get a new original character from a different and original Witcher school. The initial teaser we got some years back had fans screaming that it might be a fan-made School of Lynx(?) or something like that. A new region, a new school, and a new protagonist would have gotten more hype from me than seeing Ciri follow in Geralt's footsteps. I like the idea that they are all a happy family, retired together in Toussant in that huge vineyard that Geralt got from the Duchess. And if they are doing any Witcher-y stuff it would be to hunt those stray monsters that bother the locals. But hey, I'm not CDPR. I'll wait here impatiently and see how the game goes as we get more and more trailers and information on it from them.
i thought it was mostly fine, there were points in the trailer where it was a bit iffy but even geralt didnt really look exactly like he did in the trailers, especially when you changed his hair styles etc. i could be misremembering but didnt the use the trial of grasses shenanigens on the elf to get him back to his original form? if they can do it for him surely they can do it for ciri
Im just sad Geralts story comes to an end hahaha, I dont mind Ciri taking up the mantle. If its good like the previous Witchers, then thats quite alright with me haha. Besides, maybe now we get cameos of Geralt. Maybe he comes in swinging during a fight and saves us, then lectures us on our footwork.
The most that I ever cried after finishing a videogame was when I finished Blood and Wine. That felt like saying good bye and it hurt. So everything I get now is a nice bonus! Can't wait!
It's not just about beauty standard, people are full on conspiracy theory about how gaming industry purposely uglify women for "modern audiences" whatever that means... they deny the fact that women can age, that they can be beaten up by time and experience. They don't want immersion, they want a character to fantasize about, and that scares me for the future of gaming...
And to answer your question, it bugs me because as someone as an environment artist it hurts to see other artists getting disrespected so easily. And also, because the internet has a way of pushing their way onto your radar. It's hard to ignore when it's all you ever see.
Never even considered Geralt as the witcher protagonists again after the blood and wine ending. Always thought they would go with Ciri or someone else entirely. And why not Ciri? That was all we fought for in witcher 3. We saved her and went on the path together. Now she is starting her own school? Heck yes im down. Gimme CDPR's good writing with it. Her powerlevels can be handled easily, witcher's struggles haven't been much from the fights, but from the decisions and dilemmas. And a master of the school of the Lynx has plenty of those to go around. CDPR has even recently made a great game with a well-written female protagonist...female V...because female or male, they are straight up a well-written character.
Honestly I would rather play as geralt or make my own witcher, but that's not what the game CDPR want to make and I'm all for that ciri looks great and seems to be well written from the little bit of dialogue I heard
The only reason some ppl are up in arms about it is because these things can indicate wokeness, which would totally ruin the game. Compared to Intergalactic the character design in Witcher 4 seems less obvious, so it still has a chance. And if Witcher 4 is at the level of Baldur's Gate 3, ppl might even overlook bs wokeness because the game is just so good. (Unlike e.g. Dragon Age the Veilguard was by a long long shot, that game had no business to be woke, as it was also a bad game.)
honestly I feel like they should've just let the series end like we already had the perfect ending. I'm just worried the witcher is going to be milked like the lord of the rings or star wars and tw4 is just going to feel like a diluted version of tw3.
It's too early to tell at this point, while the game can absolutely end up being a flop there's still tons of characters and areas of the witcher universe we can get into, Ciri and Yen were only introduced in the third game and the former only extremely briefly so to say it's only getting milked now is utter bogus. Personally I'd love to be able to explore Zerikaania, intriguing place.
@@anitaremenarova6662 yeah there's definitely stuff to explore, but I'm just extremely skeptical of any media that doesn't know when to stop. Like to me that's the mark of any good piece of entertainment: it knows what it is and it knows when its done. And when creators start giving in to the demands of fans and start expanding on the universe you just end up with a lot of very average stories. sorry for being cynical but I just feel it goes this route every single time, with every popular show or movie or games franchise. Like genuinely I can't think of a single franchise that had a solid ending but was extended due to the popularity that ended up having a good sequel. It's also personal taste though: for some people more is always better, but I just like a high quality experience that knows when to stop and leaves stuff to the imagination
@@Kebabje96 I agree with you on knowing when to have an ending, they did have one for Geralt in Blood and Wine so once again I ask what makes you believe they won't know how to do it again? While his story is over in a fitting way leaving the universe because you've exhausted a single character sounds extremely silly to me, everyone wants more.
@@anitaremenarova6662 'everyone wants more' everyone but me I guess lol I get the argument that yeah geralt has had an ending, but because he's the protagonist it feels to me at least like the world moves with him. I didn't exactly read a lot of the first book but I think the wild hunt was teased from the very beginning, so tw3 feels like closure not just for geralt but also all the characters that went through their own developments. Also one of the main reasons I'm cynical is that it's called the witcher 4, like the first 3 witcher games have followed the story of geralt just like the books, and slapping the number 4 after it carries a lot of weight and implies the continuation of this whole story. And that's a big red flag to me because if they're confident in the direction they're taking, surely they would respect the closure of tw3 and give the story of ciri a new title. Just reminds me of movies like the matrix 4 or gladiator 2 that I don't think anyone asked for lol I think there's some hope though because at least they delivered with cyberpunk, so as long as they still have the talent I'm sure they won't blow it like mass effect did, I just wished they either made it really clear the ciri story is a whole new thing or they just worked on remastering the first game
@@Kebabje96 Wild hunt was completely retconned in the games, Eredin had his red riders (I think that was the name, been a while since I read them) but they were an entirely separate group from the wild hunt. Basically they got turned from Ciri's enemy into Geralt's and then clumsily returned to their lore-accurate goal in the third game. Very silly to get upset over a name that's there for entirely marketing reasons. It very much isn't closure for anyone other than Geralt and whichever love interest he picks. Ciri still becomes a witcher which is now the canon ending and this is the natural continuation of her story.
she looks like she was going through some tough life, maybe cause the witcher transition process, so she looks a little bit glow down, as long as there's lore behind it then it's alright, but if cdpr makes her look glow down without a reasonable purpose than it's not good, nobody wanna have a glow down in their life, it's not like shes pushing 50, she still in her prime age
I just don't think the modern CD Projekt red is ready or the team we had for witcher 3 cyberpunk or throne breaker instead the director of witcher4 was the art director for throne breaker alot of talent is now with rebel wolves.
Eh, CDPR is the biggest studio in Europe. They can literally get the best talent on that continent. Just because someone moves on, doesn’t mean there aren’t talented developers to replace them. What matters the most to a games success is the studio culture and workflow.
If people's problem is with how Ciri looks in the trailer, I get it, she looks a little off but not bad. The larger point is the way a character looks in a trailer is not the final look of how they will be in game. Beyond that I think it entirely makes sense for Ciri to be the protagonist - its wonderful. Geralt is a great character and had a great story, after Witcher 1, 2, 3, its been well played out. Witcher 3 gave us a taste of Ciri's perspective and playing as her - it seems a natural evolution for her to carry the torth forward. I am sure when we are seeing the live game she will look better, aged up, but looking good. She can be a little rough around the edges, but she will still be the Ciri we love. I get being cautiously optimistic or even darkly skeptical of things after debacles like Dragon Age Veilguard going so absurdly woke and being so poorly written, but I don't expect that from this company.
I'm right there with you thinking that Ciri is too OP if she is left as she was at the end of Witcher 3, or even more so now as she's had more years to train. I fear the game won't ahve the same witcher feel, and might turn into Devil May Cry or something where Ciri is just mowing down swaths of minions and bosses? She laughs at them as she makes them dance with tutu's on. but at the same time, to me, every witcher game before this has been written very well, and very intelligently.
Based on the cinematic it seems she lost her ability to bend time and space. This is fine since I would have thought there would be some kind of consequence to stopping the White Frost or that the Trial of the Grasses had a side effect that shut down that ability. I like Ciri but I will admit fully that I would have liked more Geralt. I love his character design both in the writing and how he looks. I can't help that preference but I'm sure I'll enjoy playing Ciri.
I wish more people would have Luality's way of thinking. All this drama with Ciri feels stupid. If you don't like something, just move on, complaining or making fun of people who do like it is not going to change anything.
I do prefer good looking characters in games, but this instance of Ciri did not seem to me like CDPR went out of its way to make her uglier. Being always on the road eating poorly, sleeping few hours, fighting monsters and drinking potions made for a Witcher's metabolism, is not the kind of lifestyle that does wonders for your cutis. So, if this Ciri has been working as a witcher for, say, a good 15 - 20 years, I can see how she is not the pretty girl she used to be anymore.
All the good writers and devs that worked on the Original Witchers and CP 2077, all got laid off 2 years ago. These are all young, inexperienced DEI hires now. You've been warned.
All guys in here agree with you because somehow they believe you're gonna be like "Thank you for agreeing with me I love you" lol Here's a disagreement for you: - I dont care if a character is ugly or not, what I care about is the character that I love and used to know, and this is not the same Ciri. She's not even the original voice actor. - They did to Ciri the same thing they did with Aloy from Horizon 1 to Horizon 2 - "Geralt didnt look the same when The Witcher 3 trailer came out" Are you going to compare the cinematics of a game that came out almost a decade ago? The Ciri that you see in this trailer is exactly how she will look like in the gameplay, totally different from The Witcher 3 - "Ciri is older that's why she looks different" No, I look the same as I did 10 years ago - Lore wise, I dont care if women cant be Witchers, as long as the character stays true to what we know, but here, Ciri is giving me "girl boss" feelings, woke agenda coming
Me when a character in the sequel has grown up: 😱 None of the pre-rendered cinematics represent the final game, what are you a 5yo? Come on. She assumedly underwent the trial but again this is most likely typical cinematic jank. Tell me you've never read the books or played the games without telling me, typical tourist.
Ciri being overpowered was W3's fault. Blinking like that isn't a Elder Blood thing, it's something that was invented for the gameplay. What annoys me, is that Ciri's arcs are over and now she is just a reskin for Geralt. It gives me comic book flashbacks.
@@KosmataBradva the way Ciri played in W3 was supposed to be a.counter point to Geralt and showcase her own powers. Also as for being a reskin of Geralt the developers have specifically said she's not in interviews and that she will play differently to Geralt. Maybe you could say they're lying but I'm more inclined to take the word of.the people actually involved in the game than what some random guys on the Internet are saying.
@@ChrisHMusic95 I meant it in terms of storytelling. In the trailer she really didn't show anything more than being Geralt 2. The two characters are inherently completely opposite, so seeing her act like her dad was disappointing, rather than enduring. In terms of gameplay, trailer showed her having a different kit, that's not a problem.
Imagine they nerfed Ciri by saying the Trail of the Grasses somehow reduced her powers lol. Also, didn't know there were people complaining about Ciri being ugly until you mentioned it. Not that I pay attention to stuff like this too much. People will always find something to complain about.
Nothing wrong with Ciri as the protagonist, anyone that’s played Witcher 2 and 3 is in love with the character, we saw her as a little girl trying etc… now as far as being a Witcher, I think and this idea is not mine but I believe it, is that Ciri’s powers are a danger to herself and everyone else, she herself wants to be rid of them, I think the story will be that in order to be rid of her elder blood powers, she needs to undergo the Witcher rights, when she does she’s loses her power or vast majority of it but she becomes a Witcher, Geralt and Yen will all be part of that decision. My problem is with looks and voice, she seems to have aged too much
It was emphasized multiple times in the books that pretty much everyone who knew her would never consent to her going thru the trial. Geralt alluded to it being unnecessary in a conversation with Calanthe. Triss wanted to stop even just the prep.
Would have loved to play Ciri as a Sorceress, I only hope they up their game on the magic and sword play after the Witcher after 2 and 3... I found 1 far more enjoyable (for combat).
Ciri makes more sense than Geralt for an RPG protagonist. Geralt was a very stubborn character who would always make the same choices. Ciri is in a spot where she is finally free to pursue her own path and we the player can choose who she becomes.
Why not replay all Witcher games before the release? Also as for the drama, i don't care for it, but personally i just wanted something new. I made my Ciri empress and that story ended for me, but now they retconning my choice and i hate that. Im happy for people who are exited for it, but im just not.
I don't think Ciri is too powerful. The way that magical abilities seem to work in the world of the Witcher, just because she is capable of unparalleled acts of magic, doesn't mean she can just casually take out any given foe. No one's ability to use magic seems endless. I think about it a little bit like super strong people in the real world. The strongest man in the world can lift 496 pounds... once. He can't just casually walk around with that much weight. Similarly, Ciri can almost kill herself saving the world at the end of the last game, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't have to be careful and strategic with her abilities. She has limits already.
First of all, they making W4 in unreal 5 is the the look already different. Secondly, she is age up from 21 to maybe 30 I guess. Personally, I prefer the mature look.
if you think that a lot of people think that Ciri became ugly you are engaged with too many stupid people, as ideologically captured as the "other side" (no mater the "side") real issue is that cdpr spat into face of lore, and the fact that they downgraded her elder blood power, and made her go through trial of grasses (despite secrets are lost and she is grown up) just to make her protagonist tells me they dont care.... so wont i care about the game
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I've been wanting Ciri as a protagonist since we got to play as her the first time. I'm not entirely convinced she needed to undergo the rights, but I'm willing to hear why she did. I do miss her with the greenish eyes, I think the yellow eyes completely changes how she looks, but we'll see how she looks in-game. I am cautiously optimistic, because CDPR has show that they can blow the launch of a game like the rest of them.
She didn't NEED to undergo the rights, she wanted to ever since childhood. And it's basically the only choice she's ever been offered instead of forced upon her. I think it makes 100% logical sense.
yh, I always wanted to play as Ciri but I'm surprised she took the trials. I'm looking forward to knowing why
Kinda wish they gave her shiny green cat eyes instead of the yellow ones! But she does look badass with them and she looks even more like Geralt’s daughter which is what I think they were going for.
@@Slvrbuu I quite like her eyes idk, now Ciri plays like a witcher, it will feel better as that is what you want from a witcher game, all these cool gameplay features having her with her elder blood powers or another way wouldn't have worked, there is a path to reach to her reaching the witcher stage, it will probably feel natural when we play it, i hope so anyways if done right
To be fair a lot of cyberpunk biggest launch issues was that they tried to force it on older consoles. Granted there was a lot of other stuff kinda missing and whatnot but the game was pretty competent and solid on good rigs and the next gen consoles. And at least they kinda got it there to a good point. Also curious how much of an overlap the teams have also. Hopefully they just learned the lesson that their cyberpunk fudge up could teach them
Knowing that Geralt ended up with a nice house on a vineyard living with Yennefer while Ciri is out there being a Witcher, writing her own story, makes my heart warm.
Don't forget that Geralt in the cinematics of The Witcher 3, both the introduction and the advertising, looked totally different from the one in the game.
I agree.
This is what I've been saying in some comment sections.
Well said it’s like in the moment a lot of people assumed this is how the game will look at launch
@@moisesfreire6408 It's called a borrowed opinion.
exactly and not only in witcher 3 in 1-2 aswell, that what i say to everyone voicing concerns about her face.
but i have some problems with her becoming a mutant, i hope cdpr has a good explanation for that.
Ciri as the main protagonist? take my hard earned money
100% agree. This comes from someone who's entire high school (Liceum) got addicted to the Witcher due to our Polish teacher including The Witcher into our lecture canon. He even showed us ORIGINAL copies of the Fantastyka magazine with the first ever printed (1986) Witcher stories. Back then he himself was a student and the Witcher made him fall in love with literature, so he decided to become a Polish / literature teacher. Oh, and he cosplayed for us Geralt (that was like 15 years ago). How fckn cool is that?
The Witcher for us Poles is so much more than just a story. Its a reflection of our history, worries and feelings. For a lot of us the Witcher was the key to process and escape our troubled past and strive for a better tomorrow no matter how fcked the world is.
The Witcher is pain and pain is feeling alive.
I have to tell you, I absolutely loved getting to know a bit of your folklore throughout the series! I adore how rich and full of depth the Witcher world is and how CDPR has done such a good job in translating the books into the games! Thanks to them not only me and a lot of the world got to know a bit of your world and I really cherish that!
The beauty of that trailer was seeing one of my favorite characters in gaming growing up getting older just as I am as well. Immersive game worlds like these have that effect and I couldn’t be happier to see our girl take up the mantle geralt passed on.
Im personally okay with ciri being the protagonist. She wanted to be a witcher like her pops geralt. Even if he wanted a better life for her as one comment above said. In my witcher 3 save he had a sword made for her so she coukd start on her path. Im so looking forward to seeing how she does in the witcher 4. We still have a score to settle with the witch who stole vesemirs medallion
@ryanraju6774 The Bloody Barron could return as well!
@ryanzod6986 for real? That would be an interesting thing to have happen. I think in my save he took his wife to a hermit in the mountains to see about undoing what the witches did to her. Even though I am okay with ciri being the new protagonist I do hope geralt returns to. In my save he has a house and such in Toussaint and is living happily with Triss. I can't stand Yennefer for how she treated him in the books lol
I agree with everything you said 100% there’s been a big baldurs gate 3 sized hole in my heart ever since I played through it. My friend asked me before the game awards what game I was hyped for and I was like “umm ghost of yotei? I guess?” I was so excited to see the Witcher 4 announcement and have that feeling back. And I nearly screamed when I saw Ciri was the protagonist. She finally has a chance to live her life the way she always wanted. I’m so proud of our girl ❤
Ciri is the best possible choice for the Protagonist for the Witcher 4 im really glad its her!
I just did the quest "in the heart of the woods" in the witcher 3 and was surprised it handled a similar conflict as the new witcher 4 trailer.
Yeah, Ciri lost her elder blood when she went into the tower to stop the wild hunt. So the ending where Geralt gives ciri the silver sword is cannon ending. She did mention that she lost her powers but geralt told her that she can be a Witcher.
@@PowerDragon999 Really, Damn i didn't even notice that even after completing it so many times, it kinda blows past your head if that is the case, being a fan for so many years, you miss these things rip
Where is that in the story? I don't recall seeing that anywhere. In the "canon" ending we see Geralt getting her her own silver sword and her embarking on the path.
@@jaredpilbeam6988 I don't but it could be true, there's nothing to say it is or isn't i think from what i remember but i'd need to see the ciri scenes in tousiant again, we need to do some research
All of the above is in the Witcheress ending except about her losing powers. There was no scene like that. In fact both the sequel comics & the new trailer confirmed she still very much a powerful source & probably even more in controlled.
Trial of grass in her age? Well i think the game need to explain this, otherwise it will like Palpatine in these new star wars movies something like: Somehow....Ciri become a full Witcher.
That's so accurate: I've seen only a couple of people complaining about Ciri's look, but a flood of people calling thm incels, bigots, and so on.
@FraternityOfShadows I've unfortunately seen a shit load of losers complaining about her appearance. Which is crazy cuz both Geralt and even Eve from stellar blade looked different from their promo material. It's like people suddenly forgot or don't care about context. That being said, I think we need to ignore these people. Even this video doesn't need to be made. It's giving Ghost of Yotei energy but like that, I ignore dumbasses.
@@ibannashfully agree man!
This is all becoming parodic now.. there isn’t a single release they don’t come after, unless the protagonist looks like Titus, or a hot female lol.
I mean look at the uproar over Eve in Stellar Blade’s bikini getting a slightly different design 😂
@@ibannash I have seen alot of those comments aswell but most of them are being heavily disliked which is probably why others don't see those types of comments.
I also kinda agree that this video isn't needed since there really is no drama, just grifters griting but Lua doesn't even talk about that drama in the video just her thoughts on other stuff which I'm personally cool with.
You are clearly lucky enough to be spared of dezembro's videos or some other dude whose name is elluding me but has some roman wanabe references.
Personally though, I also think her design in the trailer is ugly, but it wasn't until I brought it up with a friend who's an uber nerd dor w3 that I learned this did happen with prior witcher trailers.
I think there's reasons to be apprehensive, but from apprehension to outrage is a HUGE leap. I was disappointed by the facg Alteori, who's normally pretty reasonable, did a pretty hysterical video about it and then followed it up with a coping sesh about people giving her pushback that was equally charged emotionally.
There are thousands of comments written by what feels like a same perosn. They always point out the same idiotic arguments under any video about Witcher 4. And they are incels, bigots and so on, they are anti-woke brain-dead morons, who exist only to hate on stuff.
Always love your positivity. I cannot wait for Witcher 4. With that said it probably won’t be released for like 4 years, I know how long CDPR likes to cook. I’ll wait 😊
"I realized I had to stop fleeing. Realized that if I wish to change anything, I cannot do so hunting monsters round forgotten villages. I must do so from there. From Nilfgaard."
-Cirilla of Cintra
The Witcher 3, 2015
This is the biggest slap in the face for me, my tears were wasted. Why even make games with choices if they can't follow through it?
I definitely agree with you about well written female characters. There is an opportunity here. We'll see if they meet the moment or girlboss too close to the sun.
It would be extremely difficult to mess this up, they have like 6 books of characterization.
@@anitaremenarova6662 It would be really disappointing. I think Ciri is one of the most complex female characters in literature. I'm stoked to playthrough a well put together story as her.
I'm agree 100% with you. Ciri is too OP as a main character. Even Andrzej Sapkowski had to nerf her in the books bc she was so powerful. The problem is that in the trailer, she doesn't seem to be nerfed. I'm worried that their explanation to that could be very dumb.
The question more so is the threat she will face. In Witcher 3 it was the wild hunt and Gaunter’o’dimmm and a vampire lord so they will have to be along those lines to give ciri a proper challenge.
I was legit saying it would be cool to get the story from ciri point of view before the trailer released xD I am so excited for this!
How much drama was there, really? I feel like it's a thing on the Internet to see a few people tweet something and we turn it into "drama" or "controversy".
But honestly, I doubt there are very many people who care that Ciri is the protagonist. Anyone who enjoyed Witcher 3 likely enjoyed Ciri's role, they wouldn't be opposed to seeing more of her.
Hard to say, seen a little whining in the English internet, but Polish internet is flooded with Witcher content, mostly positive tho.
@@Fatalitix3 Anti-Woke are having a field day but if you aren't on the internet 24/7 or you aren't being recommended culture war content you aren't really going to see any "drama"
The subreddits are discussing theories and the lore around witchers but outside of that most people are looking forward to the next game.
It's a 2 minute teaser so there isn't really much to speak about.
@@dr_diddy Polish creators that could be labeled as anti woke are optimistic, it's only western tourists that are crying. They also see Criri as ugly and masculine for some reason, I don't see how
@@Fatalitix3 I guess we didnt play the same game since you can't tell that she was normal built to being bulked up for 10 years + with added silverback jawline not even geralt was that huge literally🤣 & dont get me started on the lore makes no sense looking like netflix ingame 2,0. Deffo not goty game like witcher 3 was. I actually care about this lore & serie / game so i want them to do better. But its obvious you don't 🤣 "i don't see how" try using your eyes then hard to miss no? 😂
@patriklundvall3296 what? She still looks very lean in the trailer. I'd understand your comment if she had a god of war body or even Abby from the last of us 2. She is smaller than that.
Woohoo! Thronebreaker appreciation!
There shouldn’t be any drama we knew ciri would be prominent in Witcher 4 when announced and we knew Geralt would retire in Witcher 3 since almost a decade ago.
Agree... seen Ciri in her new appearance, more mature and, worn out, make me wonder, what she have passed, lived, seen all those years?
Makes her interesting.
There is beauty in seen how her character ark is also in her appearance.
Ciri's face does look off in the trailer, not ugly tho. But Geralt's face was way more off in TW3 cinematic trailers so I don't mind at all. My concern is what happened to the plot, how did Ciri go through mutation when she's already an adult and a girl - both of which are no-no for mutation.
The disconnect for some people i think also comes from the choices they've made in game especially the endings, head cannons are different for a lot of people mainly because of what endings they got and it's no surprise if they don't like it because the choices they've made aren't reflected in the next entry, For me personally it's too early maybe they can still do something about it.
This is also the problem with making established characters make choices in game, there's often a disconnect between "Player Choice" and "Character Characterization" one good example of this is the age old debate is it yen or triss? Book geralt will never pick triss over yen because of the amount of backstory that geralt and yen have and yet in some people's head cannon it totally makes sense for them to pick triss so massive disconnect there. Imo for a game heavily themed around choice and consequence it's best to have a commander shepard like character that players can shape themselves.
may I said in the started of every video I am looking always for hearing your talk cause I enjoy it but always when I clicking on the video your beauty hit me so i just want to say you look amazing
also I want talk about the witcher
One of my favorite series ever to be honest, I felt exactly like you said, I felt proud to see Ciri grow up and hearing that someone else felt the same way brought me joy.
Thronebreaker was such a masterpiece of a game, I loved every part of that story. Meve was amazing, the whole cast of characters were awesome 😊.
Low key hearing you talk about how she’s grown up made me tear up, it’s such an amazing experience to grow together with your favorite characters and franchises
A lot of people are just jaded by the recent discourse. That’s a really good point though about mature looking characters and the ability to project mature themes with their looks.
I don't have a problem with Ciri being the new antagonist, passing the torch. I'm used to Ciri's vice in Witcher 3, so hearing her new voice is jarring, but I'm slowly coming around.
There are a few weird renders of her and villagers in the trailer but I really like her desing, shieldmaiden type of beauty, reminds me of Cerys - and maybe it isn't a coincidence as Cerys originally was supposed to be False Cirilla adopted by Crach.
That is what I thought. The trailer looked a bit off when you compare it to other trailers from CDPR. I think they hastely put together a trailer for the awards to generate some hype
But yes, the shild maiden look of Ciri is amazing, I really like it
My thoughts about her powers and how they might explain their absence in TW4:
She loses it by fulfilling her destiny by stopping the White Frost and/or she loses it by undergoing the Trial of the Grasses.
Both would be fitting and be completely logical within the world and the extended lore they build around the game charachters and everyhting else.
Personally, I absolutely do not care at all how they will explain it and I tell you why:
I'm a father of 2 unimaginal incredible and beautiful girls and I'm loving them to death. They are the best thing that has ever happened to me,
and I literally couldn't imagine a happier life to live in ever. I love my wife, but I would literally die for them.
The reason why I'm telling you this is, one of the happiest days of my entire life was, when my youngest daughter decided to follow in my footsteps becoming a traditional carpenter master,
to work in our almost 300 years old family company and take it over from me at some point. I've never felt so proud in my entire life and this is anything I ever could wished for.
So seeing Ciri also following Geralt's footsteps makes me actually tearing up.
The only thing I'm a little bit afraid of is, if I will find enough time to play the fourth (and possible fifth and sixth) game. That's my only concern regarding the games.
WoW! I didn't thought I could respect you any more - yes, we got something to look forward too and let's see what will come out of it!
I can understand some of the complaints about Ciri's looks in the trailer for one at least to me if it wasn't for the scar and the ashen hair I wouldn't have known it was Ciri it looked nothing like her from the Witcher 3 even aged up from what I could tell but it has been awhile since I played last. And in my opinion a downgrade but not bad so to each there own not a big issue. My big issue is the lore breaks cause by having Ciri being a Witcher and not just being on the Path. For one everything we know about the trail of grasses one doesn't work on adults and two she had to stop taking the elixirs or whatever when she was a kid to prepare her to go through the trail of grasses because it was harming her if I recall correctly aka on Triss's orders. Also girls tended to die in higher number from the trail so it would be extremely dangerous so I don't think her loved one would approve which would have a major influence her decision to under go any Witcher mutation trails. Now one that not sure people realize that making her a Witcher would break a fundamental rule the the Witcher universe. Destiny is Absolute. The reason she was important in the books was not because of her power but because of her elder blood or AKA as we know it today her DNA that carries the Elder blood. And it was destined that the linage of the elder blood would unite the land and rule over it. Which is why everyone from the Wild Hunt to Lodge of Sorceresses to Emperor Emhyr were after her and trying to control whom she had offspring with. Which if she becomes a Witcher she would become infertile unless they decided oh no this trail of grasses didn't make her infertile. Or you could have the ending to the books that was hinted at be Cannon and she is just a terrible mother abandoning her child in another world and never mentioning them. Not to mention without her space and time magic she would be hunted down and given to a prince in the north or back to her father. And don't act like now that she doesn't have the space and time magic she would be able to out run them. Hence why Yennifer, Geralt and Ciri decided to give in to what lodge of sorceresses wanted at the end of the last book before the events the led to the start of the Witcher game series. Doesn't mean it will be a bad game or that the story they have is bad just some warning signs that this might not be lore accurate and that they are entirely deviating from aspects of the Witcher universe and that some things will not make sense. But I might be entirely overthinking this lol.
It has been 9 years since the Witcher 3 release and most likely be another 5-6 years before Witcher 4
releases so Ciri looking a little older makes absolute sense.
Looking forward to playing as Ciri since the time in Witcher 3 playing as Ciri was way to short for me.
In the trailer, when Ciri enters the canyon, you can hear geralt say something about a ritual that worked and Ciri saying "I wasn't suppose to come back" so I think they used a ritual to bring her back from the world with the frost. Maybe because of this ritual she lost her elder blood abilities like the teleport (I mean, why isn't she using it in the trailer) and as a replacement she undergoes a different type of trial, maybe with the laboratory under Geralts Villa in Toussaint and/or the help of Keira and the Lynx school..there is so much to think and speculate about, Ciris new and older look is the least interessting topic 😂
Como um grande fã de longa data da franquia, eu compartilho da mesma opinião, e surpreendentemente o que eu mais vejo na internet são pessoas comentando sobre a aparência nova da Ciri, mas não do problema de como encaixar um personagem tão poderoso como protagonista e conseguir deixar o jogo interessante e desafiador. Enquanto aguardo o TW4 lançar, vou jogar o thronebreaker que acabei de comprar por sua recomendação, já que confio no seu bom gosto pra jogos
Yes! People are upset they might have made Ciri weaker, but wouldn't it be boring to play an overpowered character? They have to either nerf her or introduce some new strong adversary to keep it interesting instead of a slasher game.
When it comes to story CDPR has never let me down. I'm going to sit back, preorder when I can and wait until it's out and in a good condition. Then I'll just enjoy it. Same thing I did with Cyberpunk.
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Yea because Cyberpunk released in a good ocndition, you're a clown
Why pre-order? What do you gain from it?
Never thought I'd see someone use Cyberpunk as a reason to pre order.
You do you I guess.
The Witcher was always about a gritty, dark and straight up horrifying world. Ciri looking not line your standard supermodel is completely warranted. She saw some sht, experienced sht and now is carving her own path.
The main problem people have (in Poland at least) is the lore problem about the mutations. In the books Sapkowski wrote that most of the girls didn't survive (in the school of the wolf at least). The way i see it, the new seen school of the Lynx (the medallion Ciri is wearing in the trailer is a lynx) could just have better alchemist or something like that.
@@Dekarowski25 there’s also the fact that even in the books Ciri has powerful plot armor known as elder blood. I could see the fact that she has that combined with her elvish legacy being key to her surviving the trials similar to the deformed elf guy we put through the trials
@@GravenAshes yh, I gonna presume she gains mutations but loses her powers.
The games have never followed book canon 1 for 1 so I'm looking forward at what CDPR comes up with.
If you look up female witchers the info I've found said they used to be rare but did exist then after the Second Conjunction the Manticore school created a formulae the allowed.more.people.to survive the trials including Women. This is CDPR lore but they've been writing their own lore since the first. Game. If book lore is only lore that exists then the games do not exist.
It could be better alchemist's, new methods and discoveries, idk how hard the witchers would've tried or to the extent or they might've just given up easily idk, an elder blood explanation too
Yeah and I'm pretty sure that he said that in the first trials all men women and girls died with only ~6 boys surviving. It's more like they didn't try again with girls
Ciri was younger in 3 and she underwent the ritual and training to become a witcher. Do people think it would only give her cat's eyes or something?
One of the many things I loved in The Witcher 3 was to see the interactions between Geralt and Vesemir. We saw other Witchers on the game, but none of them, beside Geralt, passed to me the same impression of lethal power like Vesemir did.
There's nothing that can substitute the wisdom obtained by long years of experience.
And to imagine something similiar involving Geralt and Ciri is awesome, i can't imagine a better way to continue this history!
Witcher 4 is coming - Lua must eat breakfast. I mean, this is a good take on the entire thing.
I feel you, I haven't been so hyped for a game release since BG3. The quest, character and story I have complete confidence in. The combat, leveling/ skills systems and exploration is something they need to improve from the last game. The places of interest (question marks on map) had a chore-ry feeling to it.
The Witcher 4 trailer has like a 12 to 1 like to dislike ration. People love it.
We have a tiny handful of Book/Lore purists and the Hyper Anti-Woke crowd shouting and trying to make a scene. But they aren't getting any traction.
The vast majority of players are excited about Ciri as the main character. She looks fine, and this is a trailer . . . her look will be different in the actual game anyway.
CDPR has a good track record. I trust they know what they are doing with the Witcher 4 (and 5-6).
The hate noise will blow over and be forgotten.
That's the thing though - they are not "book\lore purists". They made up a problem with the lore and are not everywhere just to shit on CDPR. None of their points are genuine.
True!!! Meve is wonderful. Played and liked much thronebreaker.
You are so wise🎉🎉🎉🎉. Loved your views. Loving Witcher 4.
Your accent is very endearing. Care-act-ter is now my new favorite want to pronounce that word lol
Ciri doesn't look different she looks less like a child.
She does her bone structure is more masculine.
This "drama" feels like a whole load of nothing. It just feels like people who don't really care about The Witcher wanting to whine about a woman being the main character. This was always gonna be the next logical step for the series.
That being said, I know we're still gonna be waiting for a while, but I'm looking forward to TW4 and seeing Ciri becoming a full witcher
No, it's the fear of another studio going woke. CDPR has been good, but has the DEI and ESG stuff on their site. It's pattern recognition of the ideology. I certainly hope I'm wrong, but it happened to huge franchises. Star Wars Outlaws, Forbidden West DLC, Dragon Age Veilguard. Look, I want Witcher 4 to be great, but this trailer is scary. Also, it reminds me of the series. Let's hope I'm wrong.
A based rational take on the internet? ILLEGAL YOU MUST BE PURGED. lol. Gaming needs more people like you Lua I am glad I found you through BG3 and can't wait to take a Witcher 4 journey with you as well. There is so much potential and hopefully CDPR does what they can do and have done before and we get an incredible story.
I think it's fine that Ciri is the protag. I do wonder if it's the same Voice Actor.
witcher 4 situation is crazy
CDPR never failed where it matter the most, the story, and thats why i have completely trust in them. 🐺⚔❤
The writer being described in this video as having written an amazing female protagonist has already left CDPR 2 years ago.
Ciri being the protagonist works for me. Sure did i love playing as Geralt for 3 games? Absolutely but Ciri being the protagonist is fine by me. It was like the people complaining about Kiryu not being the protagonist in like a dragon 7 and it being Ichiban. Kiryu had been the protagonist for what 7 games at that point including yakuza 0? There comes a point where you gotta let somebody else take the lead and this time its Ciri's turn. People can either complain and not play the game or give it a chance and play it. Theres really only the 2 options
I expect Ciri to have a different playstyle than Geralt or generic make your own Witcher. That's what I'm looking forward to. Hopefully it's well written as well of course. I feel CDPR have always done pretty well with the choice and consequence writing.
Thank you for bring up Thronebreaker. Meve is one of the best female protagonist I have ever seen in any media. The character is not a flawless ruler. She made poor choices in the past. One of the best example is neglecting Villem that lead to his betrayal.
I also love the supporting characters in Thronebreaker, especially Gascon and Ado. Heck, they even did Eyck justice, not like Netflix making him an absolute joke.
Thronebreaker is a prime example of how CDPR can do woman protag so well and I have high hope Ciri will be a well-written in next Witcher game, despite I do have some mild concerns about her OP-ness and the whole witcher mutation process.
Unfortunately, the writer already left CDPR.
I'm on board with Ciri as the main character, but I wish they focus more on her Elder Blood abilities instead of making her another Witcher. She was easily capable of hunting monsters as herself, and I fear this decision to give her Witcher powers will make her feel like Geralt but with a female skin (especially considering how similar they already look with the hair, scar and now also the armor). They also better come up with a damn good explanation as to why she would so callously go through the trial of grasses after finally not having to worry about the Wild Hunt.
I agree on the point where if we are to have a female protagonist or even any kind of protagonist, then make it a good and well-written character. Game devs shouldn't just make a character to fulfil a quota, there should be an actual meaning and purpose to those characters being chosen as the protagonist. And CDPR has yet to fail in delivering a well-written character so far for me. Also the beauty standards! Do people know that once upon a time, plump women were seen as desirable? It's because they were seen as healthy and fertile. Nowadays, people want skinny models and any sign of plumpness is seen as fat. Beauty standard changes with the era just as how certain societal standards change with time.
My only complain with TW4 is why Ciri?
I honestly thought we were going to get a new original character from a different and original Witcher school. The initial teaser we got some years back had fans screaming that it might be a fan-made School of Lynx(?) or something like that. A new region, a new school, and a new protagonist would have gotten more hype from me than seeing Ciri follow in Geralt's footsteps. I like the idea that they are all a happy family, retired together in Toussant in that huge vineyard that Geralt got from the Duchess. And if they are doing any Witcher-y stuff it would be to hunt those stray monsters that bother the locals.
But hey, I'm not CDPR. I'll wait here impatiently and see how the game goes as we get more and more trailers and information on it from them.
I'm more put off by Ciri's voice not sounding like Ciri.
Remember folks. Even Geralt did look different in each game. just look up Witcher 1 then Witcher 2 and finally Witcher 3.
i thought it was mostly fine, there were points in the trailer where it was a bit iffy but even geralt didnt really look exactly like he did in the trailers, especially when you changed his hair styles etc. i could be misremembering but didnt the use the trial of grasses shenanigens on the elf to get him back to his original form? if they can do it for him surely they can do it for ciri
Im just sad Geralts story comes to an end hahaha, I dont mind Ciri taking up the mantle. If its good like the previous Witchers, then thats quite alright with me haha. Besides, maybe now we get cameos of Geralt. Maybe he comes in swinging during a fight and saves us, then lectures us on our footwork.
Dont be sad that its over. Be happy that it happened
The most that I ever cried after finishing a videogame was when I finished Blood and Wine. That felt like saying good bye and it hurt. So everything I get now is a nice bonus! Can't wait!
i like the new ciri look. she reminds me of lagertha in vikings (2013)
It's not just about beauty standard, people are full on conspiracy theory about how gaming industry purposely uglify women for "modern audiences" whatever that means... they deny the fact that women can age, that they can be beaten up by time and experience. They don't want immersion, they want a character to fantasize about, and that scares me for the future of gaming...
Good point. I didn't even think that about her, until you brought it up 😄
And to answer your question, it bugs me because as someone as an environment artist it hurts to see other artists getting disrespected so easily. And also, because the internet has a way of pushing their way onto your radar. It's hard to ignore when it's all you ever see.
I wish Lua was bald like asmon
Never even considered Geralt as the witcher protagonists again after the blood and wine ending.
Always thought they would go with Ciri or someone else entirely. And why not Ciri? That was all we fought for in witcher 3. We saved her and went on the path together. Now she is starting her own school? Heck yes im down. Gimme CDPR's good writing with it. Her powerlevels can be handled easily, witcher's struggles haven't been much from the fights, but from the decisions and dilemmas. And a master of the school of the Lynx has plenty of those to go around.
CDPR has even recently made a great game with a well-written female protagonist...female V...because female or male, they are straight up a well-written character.
Honestly I would rather play as geralt or make my own witcher, but that's not what the game CDPR want to make and I'm all for that ciri looks great and seems to be well written from the little bit of dialogue I heard
The only reason some ppl are up in arms about it is because these things can indicate wokeness, which would totally ruin the game.
Compared to Intergalactic the character design in Witcher 4 seems less obvious, so it still has a chance.
And if Witcher 4 is at the level of Baldur's Gate 3, ppl might even overlook bs wokeness because the game is just so good.
(Unlike e.g. Dragon Age the Veilguard was by a long long shot, that game had no business to be woke, as it was also a bad game.)
honestly I feel like they should've just let the series end like we already had the perfect ending. I'm just worried the witcher is going to be milked like the lord of the rings or star wars and tw4 is just going to feel like a diluted version of tw3.
It's too early to tell at this point, while the game can absolutely end up being a flop there's still tons of characters and areas of the witcher universe we can get into, Ciri and Yen were only introduced in the third game and the former only extremely briefly so to say it's only getting milked now is utter bogus. Personally I'd love to be able to explore Zerikaania, intriguing place.
@@anitaremenarova6662 yeah there's definitely stuff to explore, but I'm just extremely skeptical of any media that doesn't know when to stop. Like to me that's the mark of any good piece of entertainment: it knows what it is and it knows when its done. And when creators start giving in to the demands of fans and start expanding on the universe you just end up with a lot of very average stories.
sorry for being cynical but I just feel it goes this route every single time, with every popular show or movie or games franchise.
Like genuinely I can't think of a single franchise that had a solid ending but was extended due to the popularity that ended up having a good sequel.
It's also personal taste though: for some people more is always better, but I just like a high quality experience that knows when to stop and leaves stuff to the imagination
@@Kebabje96 I agree with you on knowing when to have an ending, they did have one for Geralt in Blood and Wine so once again I ask what makes you believe they won't know how to do it again? While his story is over in a fitting way leaving the universe because you've exhausted a single character sounds extremely silly to me, everyone wants more.
@@anitaremenarova6662 'everyone wants more' everyone but me I guess lol
I get the argument that yeah geralt has had an ending, but because he's the protagonist it feels to me at least like the world moves with him. I didn't exactly read a lot of the first book but I think the wild hunt was teased from the very beginning, so tw3 feels like closure not just for geralt but also all the characters that went through their own developments.
Also one of the main reasons I'm cynical is that it's called the witcher 4, like the first 3 witcher games have followed the story of geralt just like the books, and slapping the number 4 after it carries a lot of weight and implies the continuation of this whole story.
And that's a big red flag to me because if they're confident in the direction they're taking, surely they would respect the closure of tw3 and give the story of ciri a new title. Just reminds me of movies like the matrix 4 or gladiator 2 that I don't think anyone asked for lol
I think there's some hope though because at least they delivered with cyberpunk, so as long as they still have the talent I'm sure they won't blow it like mass effect did, I just wished they either made it really clear the ciri story is a whole new thing or they just worked on remastering the first game
@@Kebabje96 Wild hunt was completely retconned in the games, Eredin had his red riders (I think that was the name, been a while since I read them) but they were an entirely separate group from the wild hunt. Basically they got turned from Ciri's enemy into Geralt's and then clumsily returned to their lore-accurate goal in the third game. Very silly to get upset over a name that's there for entirely marketing reasons. It very much isn't closure for anyone other than Geralt and whichever love interest he picks. Ciri still becomes a witcher which is now the canon ending and this is the natural continuation of her story.
she looks like she was going through some tough life, maybe cause the witcher transition process, so she looks a little bit glow down, as long as there's lore behind it then it's alright, but if cdpr makes her look glow down without a reasonable purpose than it's not good, nobody wanna have a glow down in their life, it's not like shes pushing 50, she still in her prime age
Everyone complaining now will be happily playing the game on day 1. If you have issues don’t play it. We won’t miss you at all
I just don't think the modern CD Projekt red is ready or the team we had for witcher 3 cyberpunk or throne breaker instead the director of witcher4 was the art director for throne breaker alot of talent is now with rebel wolves.
Eh, CDPR is the biggest studio in Europe. They can literally get the best talent on that continent. Just because someone moves on, doesn’t mean there aren’t talented developers to replace them. What matters the most to a games success is the studio culture and workflow.
If people's problem is with how Ciri looks in the trailer, I get it, she looks a little off but not bad. The larger point is the way a character looks in a trailer is not the final look of how they will be in game. Beyond that I think it entirely makes sense for Ciri to be the protagonist - its wonderful. Geralt is a great character and had a great story, after Witcher 1, 2, 3, its been well played out. Witcher 3 gave us a taste of Ciri's perspective and playing as her - it seems a natural evolution for her to carry the torth forward. I am sure when we are seeing the live game she will look better, aged up, but looking good. She can be a little rough around the edges, but she will still be the Ciri we love.
I get being cautiously optimistic or even darkly skeptical of things after debacles like Dragon Age Veilguard going so absurdly woke and being so poorly written, but I don't expect that from this company.
I'm right there with you thinking that Ciri is too OP if she is left as she was at the end of Witcher 3, or even more so now as she's had more years to train. I fear the game won't ahve the same witcher feel, and might turn into Devil May Cry or something where Ciri is just mowing down swaths of minions and bosses? She laughs at them as she makes them dance with tutu's on. but at the same time, to me, every witcher game before this has been written very well, and very intelligently.
Based on the cinematic it seems she lost her ability to bend time and space. This is fine since I would have thought there would be some kind of consequence to stopping the White Frost or that the Trial of the Grasses had a side effect that shut down that ability.
I like Ciri but I will admit fully that I would have liked more Geralt. I love his character design both in the writing and how he looks. I can't help that preference but I'm sure I'll enjoy playing Ciri.
I wish more people would have Luality's way of thinking. All this drama with Ciri feels stupid. If you don't like something, just move on, complaining or making fun of people who do like it is not going to change anything.
I will conquer the Netherbrain and force everyone to enjoy the same games and standards of beauty as I do!
oh no, true evil is in the yt comments!! hahah
I do prefer good looking characters in games, but this instance of Ciri did not seem to me like CDPR went out of its way to make her uglier.
Being always on the road eating poorly, sleeping few hours, fighting monsters and drinking potions made for a Witcher's metabolism, is not the kind of lifestyle that does wonders for your cutis.
So, if this Ciri has been working as a witcher for, say, a good 15 - 20 years, I can see how she is not the pretty girl she used to be anymore.
Throne Breaker was great
People are allowed to say a character looks ugly or not.
I love this series and it sounds like Witcher 4 will be the best in the series.
All the good writers and devs that worked on the Original Witchers and CP 2077, all got laid off 2 years ago. These are all young, inexperienced DEI hires now. You've been warned.
Me when I spread misinformation on the internet
All guys in here agree with you because somehow they believe you're gonna be like "Thank you for agreeing with me I love you" lol
Here's a disagreement for you:
- I dont care if a character is ugly or not, what I care about is the character that I love and used to know, and this is not the same Ciri. She's not even the original voice actor.
- They did to Ciri the same thing they did with Aloy from Horizon 1 to Horizon 2
- "Geralt didnt look the same when The Witcher 3 trailer came out" Are you going to compare the cinematics of a game that came out almost a decade ago? The Ciri that you see in this trailer is exactly how she will look like in the gameplay, totally different from The Witcher 3
- "Ciri is older that's why she looks different" No, I look the same as I did 10 years ago
- Lore wise, I dont care if women cant be Witchers, as long as the character stays true to what we know, but here, Ciri is giving me "girl boss" feelings, woke agenda coming
Me when a character in the sequel has grown up: 😱
None of the pre-rendered cinematics represent the final game, what are you a 5yo? Come on.
She assumedly underwent the trial but again this is most likely typical cinematic jank.
Tell me you've never read the books or played the games without telling me, typical tourist.
They made her look 45
Maybe she is, we don't know how long it's been
Ciri being overpowered was W3's fault. Blinking like that isn't a Elder Blood thing, it's something that was invented for the gameplay.
What annoys me, is that Ciri's arcs are over and now she is just a reskin for Geralt. It gives me comic book flashbacks.
Blinking is certainly an elder blood thing, because her power is space and time.
@@Ptzou Doesn't mean she can spam it like in gameplay.
@@KosmataBradva the way Ciri played in W3 was supposed to be a.counter point to Geralt and showcase her own powers. Also as for being a reskin of Geralt the developers have specifically said she's not in interviews and that she will play differently to Geralt. Maybe you could say they're lying but I'm more inclined to take the word of.the people actually involved in the game than what some random guys on the Internet are saying.
@KosmataBradva I have no idea where people are getting these Geralt reskin ideas. It's literally just a CGI trailer. We haven't seen any gameplay yet.
@@ChrisHMusic95 I meant it in terms of storytelling. In the trailer she really didn't show anything more than being Geralt 2. The two characters are inherently completely opposite, so seeing her act like her dad was disappointing, rather than enduring.
In terms of gameplay, trailer showed her having a different kit, that's not a problem.
I just miss the glowing eyes Ciri had in W3 ... but okay
truer words spoken lua W
Imagine they nerfed Ciri by saying the Trail of the Grasses somehow reduced her powers lol. Also, didn't know there were people complaining about Ciri being ugly until you mentioned it. Not that I pay attention to stuff like this too much. People will always find something to complain about.
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I say, let them eat cake😂
Nothing wrong with Ciri as the protagonist, anyone that’s played Witcher 2 and 3 is in love with the character, we saw her as a little girl trying etc… now as far as being a Witcher, I think and this idea is not mine but I believe it, is that Ciri’s powers are a danger to herself and everyone else, she herself wants to be rid of them, I think the story will be that in order to be rid of her elder blood powers, she needs to undergo the Witcher rights, when she does she’s loses her power or vast majority of it but she becomes a Witcher, Geralt and Yen will all be part of that decision. My problem is with looks and voice, she seems to have aged too much
It was emphasized multiple times in the books that pretty much everyone who knew her would never consent to her going thru the trial. Geralt alluded to it being unnecessary in a conversation with Calanthe. Triss wanted to stop even just the prep.
Would have loved to play Ciri as a Sorceress, I only hope they up their game on the magic and sword play after the Witcher after 2 and 3... I found 1 far more enjoyable (for combat).
Ciri makes more sense than Geralt for an RPG protagonist. Geralt was a very stubborn character who would always make the same choices. Ciri is in a spot where she is finally free to pursue her own path and we the player can choose who she becomes.
Why not replay all Witcher games before the release?
Also as for the drama, i don't care for it, but personally i just wanted something new.
I made my Ciri empress and that story ended for me, but now they retconning my choice and i hate that.
Im happy for people who are exited for it, but im just not.
I don't think Ciri is too powerful. The way that magical abilities seem to work in the world of the Witcher, just because she is capable of unparalleled acts of magic, doesn't mean she can just casually take out any given foe. No one's ability to use magic seems endless. I think about it a little bit like super strong people in the real world. The strongest man in the world can lift 496 pounds... once. He can't just casually walk around with that much weight. Similarly, Ciri can almost kill herself saving the world at the end of the last game, but that doesn't mean that she doesn't have to be careful and strategic with her abilities. She has limits already.
Ciri isnt ugly she just aged a bit and not to mention a new engine means more details
First of all, they making W4 in unreal 5 is the the look already different. Secondly, she is age up from 21 to maybe 30 I guess. Personally, I prefer the mature look.
if you think that a lot of people think that Ciri became ugly you are engaged with too many stupid people, as ideologically captured as the "other side" (no mater the "side") real issue is that cdpr spat into face of lore, and the fact that they downgraded her elder blood power, and made her go through trial of grasses (despite secrets are lost and she is grown up) just to make her protagonist tells me they dont care.... so wont i care about the game
Sane people: She's just older now.
Anti-woke: She's a man now we're all doomed.
Woke:(Who cares)