So true a bunch of old games I used to own and loved to play I can't now from my old game systems they got stolen and stuff wish I could have those games back
@@bunyan4.20 or in my case where I can only play what’s on PS4 ps3 pc 3ds and switch. I like exploring older games some that are older than me (2002). But some I would need older consoles and the prices may be high for the games
Playing game footage on screen is more entertaining than watching the two hosts just sit around and chat. Keep up this format, WhatCulture Gaming. 👏👏👏👏
Love this guys😄 And FYI: the Toy Story 2 situation was described in Ed Catmull's Creativity Inc book- they lost the data for Toy Story 2, thought it was on the back up, and the backup failed. BUT, one of the people working on it gave birth, and wanted to work from home. So, she set up her own server that would download the data every day. Saved the entire movie.
Brings to mind the Crash N. Sane Trilogy where Vicarious had to remake the game almost from scratch because the majority of the data and all the source code was just... gone. All that they received of the original source was the 3D models and SOME of the music, everything else was done by comparing to the actual game. It makes the final product all the more impressive. I'd like to think that instances like that would inspire game publishers/devs to reconsider their haphazard approach to data preservation, but not only does that cost actual money and organization for storage but the disconnect between the tech and business sides is so severe in many cases that any meaningful communication between the two on the subject is a mess.
yep and also can help prevent purposeful messing with games you have a game but some patch completely alters it like for example warcraft 3 remake (its a PC game but also example as to why having availability outside official sources can be good) which i've heard was very bad and least from official sources you can't get the original anymore or games that were xbox or playstation or nintendo exclusives which aren't available anymore or such
What i dont get is why don't the movies use the designs from the War for Cybertron series? Theres a reason those game as beloved and they absolutely nailed the character designs. And its even cool who the decepticons have purple energon in their veins and Autobots have an orangish red color so even if you cant tell them apart on looks that helps you. Studios needs to stop running away from what works and instead understand why it works and use it properly.
on the point of you mentioning film archives and preservation, i once came across a DVD of the original black and white Metropolis by Fritz Lang. popped that into my player and it flat out says some parts were missing due to film degradation or simply couldn't find those parts from multiple sources, so they put on a wall of text describing what's going on
Activision also had the licence for amazing Star Trek games like Armada and Elite Force. Would love to see them again, but on all consoles as I don't have an Xbox, haha.
Unified digital storage wasn't common place until the late 2000's, even for companies. The HDDs with the old dev files are prolly in a warehouse with cardboard boxes full of HDDs, think the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark and you get the idea.
Jesus wept. Thankfully I still have my physical copies of all of these. ☺️ Though I would be very happy to see Devastation back on. Had to replace my PS4 a few months back and ended up losing Nemesis Prime, Red Alert and Goldfire. 😢
With all of the remasters and remakes, you'd think game preservation was a major priority. Letting past games die loses all of the potential to quickly turn over a past game to fill a lull in between major releases.
Oh my gosh please give us the old Tony Hawks games, underground 1 and 2, American wasteland? Those are old Activision games aren’t they!? Slap em on game pass easy peasy!
Well, the Biggest hope I get for this, is for the Cybertron-Games to finally get Rid of the Highly-Annoying Games-for-Windows-Part, and actually have a working Coop for War for Cybertron at leaast.
i might have to give these TF games a try. The last one I played was the one for the 3DS, which was a Turn based strat game made by wayforward. I played a demo of that G1, one for PS4 which seemed pretty good.
Their is the Homeworld Cataclysm / Emergence because Blizzard decided to copywrite cataclysm Black Bird wanted to do a remaster of it but the game had been lost and there was enough of a difference in the game they couldn't just reskin Homeworld 2 remastered for it
I have Fall of Cybertron for the 360 but my 360 is on death's door and the disk is not backwards compatible on the One because a remaster was made for the Xbox One. But then it was pulled from the store so I never got to play the game. Let me play the game I paid for!
I want blur, Call of Duty classic ,Spider-Man games by Activision including Spider-Man 1 2 3 and friend and foe or any spider man games made by Activision, family guy back to the multiverse, Shrek games by Activision, and x man destiny and any x man game made by Activision will be awesome on Xbox game pass as backwards, compatible titles for the Xbox
Best instance of this I can remember is panzer dragoon saga from the Saturn where they not only misplaced it but pretty sure it had been accidentally deleted on top of it
I don't know about burned, But there should be some way to account for preservation within them. The license holders do deserve to get their money in the moment. after all.
Well I guess we can't get a remake or even the original best 2 transformers games ever made...war and fall of Cybertron...thanks Activision... put out a stupid Nikki Minaj skin for cod but won't do something actually cool with these games...
This is a problem. Game preservation is so lacking and it’s so sad for people who want to play older games
So true a bunch of old games I used to own and loved to play I can't now from my old game systems they got stolen and stuff wish I could have those games back
@@bunyan4.20 or in my case where I can only play what’s on PS4 ps3 pc 3ds and switch. I like exploring older games some that are older than me (2002). But some I would need older consoles and the prices may be high for the games
Agree Games Preservation is important
roms and emulators are gaining traction for this reason
@@12thMandalorian yeah but the problem with those is that it’ll stay online until it gets inevitably shut down by the companies that own these games
Playing game footage on screen is more entertaining than watching the two hosts just sit around and chat.
Keep up this format, WhatCulture Gaming. 👏👏👏👏
Love this guys😄
And FYI: the Toy Story 2 situation was described in Ed Catmull's Creativity Inc book- they lost the data for Toy Story 2, thought it was on the back up, and the backup failed. BUT, one of the people working on it gave birth, and wanted to work from home. So, she set up her own server that would download the data every day. Saved the entire movie.
Love the employees who go the dedicated Mile.
Then she got fired......
Brings to mind the Crash N. Sane Trilogy where Vicarious had to remake the game almost from scratch because the majority of the data and all the source code was just... gone. All that they received of the original source was the 3D models and SOME of the music, everything else was done by comparing to the actual game. It makes the final product all the more impressive.
I'd like to think that instances like that would inspire game publishers/devs to reconsider their haphazard approach to data preservation, but not only does that cost actual money and organization for storage but the disconnect between the tech and business sides is so severe in many cases that any meaningful communication between the two on the subject is a mess.
It's like copy right protection is just reserving the rights of the owners to lose track of their own properties.
This is why every game needs to come out on PC. All PC games are available to download if you know where to look.
yep and also can help prevent purposeful messing with games you have a game but some patch completely alters it like for example warcraft 3 remake (its a PC game but also example as to why having availability outside official sources can be good) which i've heard was very bad and least from official sources you can't get the original anymore or games that were xbox or playstation or nintendo exclusives which aren't available anymore or such
Praying they find it, these games were my childhood and super underrated. Would love to play these again.
I wish Activision's old Marvel, transformers and those kinda games went to PS4 too like I miss shattered dimensions and ultimate alliance
The movie tie ins on the 360 were actually really fun (at least the multi-player) I remember enjoying revenge of the fallen
What i dont get is why don't the movies use the designs from the War for Cybertron series? Theres a reason those game as beloved and they absolutely nailed the character designs. And its even cool who the decepticons have purple energon in their veins and Autobots have an orangish red color so even if you cant tell them apart on looks that helps you.
Studios needs to stop running away from what works and instead understand why it works and use it properly.
A war for cybetron remaster would go crazy
on the point of you mentioning film archives and preservation, i once came across a DVD of the original black and white Metropolis by Fritz Lang. popped that into my player and it flat out says some parts were missing due to film degradation or simply couldn't find those parts from multiple sources, so they put on a wall of text describing what's going on
Activision also had the licence for amazing Star Trek games like Armada and Elite Force. Would love to see them again, but on all consoles as I don't have an Xbox, haha.
Lmao, losing a multimillion product to your sofa
Unified digital storage wasn't common place until the late 2000's, even for companies. The HDDs with the old dev files are prolly in a warehouse with cardboard boxes full of HDDs, think the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark and you get the idea.
i want these games back so bad! the cybertron games were some of the best! too bad it won't come to ps 5
War for Cybertron was one of the best games ever
Jesus wept. Thankfully I still have my physical copies of all of these. ☺️ Though I would be very happy to see Devastation back on. Had to replace my PS4 a few months back and ended up losing Nemesis Prime, Red Alert and Goldfire. 😢
With all of the remasters and remakes, you'd think game preservation was a major priority. Letting past games die loses all of the potential to quickly turn over a past game to fill a lull in between major releases.
Oh my gosh please give us the old Tony Hawks games, underground 1 and 2, American wasteland? Those are old Activision games aren’t they!? Slap em on game pass easy peasy!
I hope you guys have the integrity to update this report.
The Transformers War For Cybertron Trilogy was one of the best trilogies in the Transformers games
Lulu cheng (CCO/EVP) of activision) said that the games have never been lost, hasbro even apologized
Well, the Biggest hope I get for this, is for the Cybertron-Games to finally get Rid of the Highly-Annoying Games-for-Windows-Part, and actually have a working Coop for War for Cybertron at leaast.
i might have to give these TF games a try. The last one I played was the one for the 3DS, which was a Turn based strat game made by wayforward. I played a demo of that G1, one for PS4 which seemed pretty good.
0:53 Respect to Hasbro!!!
Do it Hasbro 😭😭
I played one of the OG transformer games on the 360. I never had more fun in a transformer game than that game
Would love to be able to play the ps2 game based on Armada again on current gen console / pc
Lost Kingdoms needs to be remade and brought back
I’ve done my part to preserve licensed games for years… by buying physical 😅
PS2 Transformers Armada is so goooooood.
i just want the Cybertron duology back. i never got to play the second one.
Their is the Homeworld Cataclysm / Emergence because Blizzard decided to copywrite cataclysm Black Bird wanted to do a remaster of it but the game had been lost and there was enough of a difference in the game they couldn't just reskin Homeworld 2 remastered for it
I think Activision got very nice games on their list when they did Nintendo Port games.
X-men Legends 1 & 2 all of their Spider-Man games the ultimate alliance games. James Bond, Tony Hawk these transformers games there’s so much stuff
Yes please restore the Spiderman games as well, there was a couple i missed out on growing up like web of shadows
Activision is a one tick pony now. All they care about is CoD.
Im surprised they didn't try a quick search in their computer hard drives to find the folders faster that way
I am hoping war for cybertorn and fall of cybertron doss come out on Xbox because that would be really awesome
I have Fall of Cybertron for the 360 but my 360 is on death's door and the disk is not backwards compatible on the One because a remaster was made for the Xbox One. But then it was pulled from the store so I never got to play the game. Let me play the game I paid for!
I read that ninja gaiden black was lost too. That’s why they remastered sigma for the re release.
Please give us fall of cybertron back
Armada was an Atari game not Activsion!!!
Not if you own these games on 360/PlayStation
Steaming era is going to have a lot of content that will just won't available to anyone in the future.
They should add the spider Man games also
Microsoft is too salty to sign a deal with Sony
@@alumlovescake no you mean sony lol
Well this is a surprise to see.
Normally when Transformers shows up on WhatCulture it's to say the films are poo.
I want blur, Call of Duty classic ,Spider-Man games by Activision including Spider-Man 1 2 3 and friend and foe or any spider man games made by Activision, family guy back to the multiverse, Shrek games by Activision, and x man destiny and any x man game made by Activision will be awesome on Xbox game pass as backwards, compatible titles for the Xbox
So I will not able play it on switch
No they did not
Did Activision apologize to us all yet for defending adults rights to expose other people's children to sexual kinks and perversions?
Best instance of this I can remember is panzer dragoon saga from the Saturn where they not only misplaced it but pretty sure it had been accidentally deleted on top of it
Xbox wont put original xbox games on gamepas they stop that program they well only do 360 games if that
You should edit this video as it’s debunked
Wow
Licenses kill so many fun games. They are a threat to game preservation and must be burned.
I don't know about burned, But there should be some way to account for preservation within them. The license holders do deserve to get their money in the moment. after all.
Well I guess we can't get a remake or even the original best 2 transformers games ever made...war and fall of Cybertron...thanks Activision... put out a stupid Nikki Minaj skin for cod but won't do something actually cool with these games...