@@PelicansCourtsideClubI don’t think it was due to UA-cam censorship. He had an exclusivity contract with Spotify. That contract has come to an end and he can upload to other platforms.
Let’s get an epic podcast, then. I want to see a group cast with Vivek , Theo, Elon, Zach Whittaker, Tulsi, and Bill Maher. Musical Guest; In Living Color
Joe and his people really need to do a follow up interview here with Peter, i believe this episode is about a year old so another episode would line up perfectly. Revisit the talking points and aee where it all stands now. Peter might not be 100% correct on everything but people would be foolish not to listen and take note of what he says.
@@sinesaiisometimes you are just riffing with the boys and next thing you know you are spitballing in India to a conference of business executives about how to take geo political advantage of Chinas imminent collapse
Yes! Progressive updates is good for us to hear. Peter is speculative and at least knows that anything can change at any time so his assessment of the future will always be evolving.
Peter’s been wrong substantially especially with domestic politics. And he’s been wrong on Ukraine as well, the sanctions he along with every other state department member shouted from the hills that it would cripple the Russian economy… it didn’t. Juxtapose that with John Mearsheimer’s positions and well…Peter’s not the end all be all to say the least.
It always makes me skeptical when someone has a concise answer to everything, as if complex relationships can be boiled down to witty statemments and the future is a linear projection.
@@lfnt7069it’s been HiS Job His Entire Life. When Your View of the world is the Screen In Your Hand. That is the Size of Your Playing Field. PZ travels the World and is Engaged in it. Unlike most People in Merica that Chant USA USA every touchdown Their team scores…. A limited view… Good Morning…..
@@lfnt7069He doesn't have 5 hours to sit and give lectures about politics and geopolitics. If you're that invested just read books and follow news from sources that have been fact checked to a higher degree. Peter isn't linear at all. At all instances he gives multiple situations of what could happen. If you're not convinced then follow his channel and see for yourself.
This man deserves to be shamed for the rest of his life for saying that the price of Bitcoin would decrease by $17000 when the price was $16000, implying that it would go down to trade at a negative price. Not only is it absolutely idiotic to think that a purely digital, and absolutely scarce, currency could trade for a negative quality of dollars, what actually happened after this video aired made him look so, so foolish. Price went up for the next year, without any huge pullbacks, up to about $70,000. Peter is an idiot.
Peter is proof that confidence, eloquence and arrogance get more listeners than accuracy and honesty. He is a sound bite journalist for people who don't want to think for themselves.
An interesting interview. Joe asked a lot of good questions, listened, and then asked more questions for clarification of points or to dig deeper before moving on to his next question. It sounds like work went into preparing the interview questions.. Peter Zeihan is very knowledgeable, big picture kind of guy and he tends to approach things with logical point of view..
This was back when Zeihan was still being non partisan or playing the I am a smart fact based liberal who hangs out with conservatives. Now he is a far left civ intel agent again.
I know there’s a lot of Peter critics but I personally enjoy the way he explains past events as well as ongoing world dynamics, I always get something out of it.
Peter Ziban gives you the knowledge to understand the world & took me 6 yrs of courses in economic development, geology, geography. He is brilliant the way he integrates knowdge.
@@user-ww8nz5oo2l I try to keep an open mind. But nobody who calls him a liar ever provides examples. I'd be happy to learn about any fact checking you've done.
@@andybenis Ukraine winning the war China collapsing socioeconomically in 10 yrs Ukraine having less deaths than Russia Russia not having enough military assets Bitcoin will go to zero United States has stable birthrates. The United States didn't blow up the gas line All emphatically stated lies
He’s not predicting zeitgeist; he’s actually really bad at that stuff. He’s telling us what is possible based on economics, demographics, geography, and supply chains. He predicted Ukraine several years before it happened. He also predicted the demographic collapse.
I do not care how old this video is, this has to be the most comprehensive and expansive interview on geopolitics, energy and supply chain dynamics I have ever ingested - PLEASE Share ALLOT!
Except if you have watched the body of his work, you'd realize his overwhelming politic bias makes his information largely useless. He's not presenting objective research or analysis, he's writing narratives that suit that bias. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
@@Ekrindul I agree that there is bias in his analysis. However, the info on the devastation that Russia has inflected (death) on the Ukraine population is true. Also, the fact that Russia, whether it is with the Axis side in WWII or on their own, have always seen the need to kept Europe under their thumb is evidenced by history. If Ukraine "wins" - stops Russia; it will take them Generations to recover whereas Russian infrastructure, away from the their border with Europe, walks away relatively untouched if they lose. For better or worse, we need to support Ukraine as they, troops wise, alone are fighting to keep what I believe is European's largest crop land, free from Russia control.
@@Martian_Alien Ukraine will never recover. Their birth rate was already below sustainable levels before the war. All Russia has to do is flood Ukraine with Russian migrants and the country will inevitably be Russian. Ukraine already lost.
I’ve actually had a 180-degree turn on Peter Zeihan’s geopolitical analysis and with in the beginning of discussion he explains that he’s a generalist. He definitely knows the importance of free trade with in NAFTA and also solid understanding of what has gone on in Eastern Europe and that USA is definitely not an island needs trading partners. He definitely knows his global Agriculture Energy and Mining sectors. As an American he’s very well informed and I’m saying this as a compliment and my 180-degree turn.
The beauty of his youtube interactions. He has been on a few yrs. You can see how his predictions pan out. He is right often. Sometimes not. His work assumes smart people won't change course and everything is static in his world. But I do enjoy his info. Some of best out there IMO.
This man deserves to be shamed for the rest of his life for saying that the price of Bitcoin would decrease by $17000 when the price was $16000, implying that it would go down to trade at a negative price. Not only is it absolutely idiotic to think that a purely digital, and absolutely scarce, currency could trade for a negative quality of dollars, what actually happened after this video aired made him look so, so foolish. Price went up for the next year, without any huge pullbacks, up to about $70,000. Peter is an idiot.
For example he said very confidently that in Transylvania the vast majority of people are hungarian ethnic which is completely false. The vast majority are Romanians who were there approximately 12 centuries before them. I come from Romania. Secondly, are his statements regarding the war in Ukraine. Everybody in that part of the world knows what really happened in Ukraine. For example everything started with so called popular revolution Maidan in 2014 that we romanians saw it as a copycat of what happened in Bucharest in 1989. The similarity was absolutely shocking ( foreign intervention making people on the street believe that theyb actually made the revolution - we were the useful idiots). So, he is just blowing hot air. He has indeed many good points on many other subjects, and that makes him very credible talking about what it is going to happened in 25 years from now ....
@@JohnMarinescu-q7hhe might be wrong about certain facts but what you are saying about the Maidan is not accurate. It was very much a peoples movement, talk to anyone from western Ukraine and they will tell you that they stood behind the protesters. Yes there was foreign support, all of it under the pretext of supporting the rights of the people under oppression... btw where have we heard that pretext before? In the unlawful invasion of the Donbas.
Enjoy Peter and, of course, Joe. Great guest. Thank you. It’s great that you are focusing on ppl who we all wish to learn more from. Keep it up!❤ 🇺🇸👏🎈❤️
He's a moron. Dead wrong on China for years. Dead wrong on Russia for years. Not one thing right in his so-called 'analysis' 😅 of Ukraine war. Poor guy is in a mental prison of his own biases. He's a moron.
I'm only 5 minutes in and this just feels like propaganda. I'm not familiar with the guy so maybe that's unfair of me, but so far it just boils down to 'Russia bad!'
@@as3609you do not need a whole Podcast to arrive at that very true conclusion sadly. Russia is bad they are breaking their non agression treaties which puts them squarely in the bad and not to be trusted category. Now go ahead and make excuses...
Show his old predictions that are wrong then. He's been making predictions for a very long time now, he talked about the Russian invasion YEARS before it happened.
I don't mind the re-run, a lot of it is still relevant. I do love the enormous amount of "phew'ing" Joe has to do at these less-than-peachy observations :D
It would be good if someone would match Zeihan's predictions to what has actually happened. I don't think his percentage would be very high. China is on the verge of economic collapse, but not for the reasons he predicted.
About 3 weeks ago, Zeihan said in an interview with RNZ "Biden will win the election 100% in a landslide." He may be smart but his commonsense is way off sometimes.
This is also a year old... a lot has changed since then but more importantly news coverage is a bit more critical on even traditionally left leaning news sources.
This conversation took place shortly before Yevgeny Prigozhin’s abortive 2023 march on Moscow. Though not specifically predicted, that oddly started and badly ended effort was the sort of event that Mr. Zeihan’s warnings comprehend. If proper attention is accorded to Mr. Zeihan’s careful caveating, the facile nature of some ‘headline predictions’ is less important than consideration of longer term relevance.
Geopolitics is science. Review data, form hypothesis. Not always going to be right. He's gotten a lot of things right as well, though. So, in the world/work of Geopolitics, he's on par.
I absolutely love Peter Zeihan and the majority of his geopolitical views, with a few salient exceptions. One of these is his view on the war on drugs. That being said, I do appreciate how his views are all based on facts and figures that are largely available to the general public, rather than the largely boomer held views on controlling the actions of others. In fact, I believe this is one of his healthy skepticism(s) on big government.
Do you love him because what he says is consistent with what you believe? From what I've seen, he makes strawman arguments and distorts claims to further his message. He does not present different points of view. He is not interested in truth, he is interested in spreading his version of the truth. I think he's a good example of a very low quality information source. "Experts" like this are a dime a dozen on youtube, and everybody's got their favourite talking head. If you are interested in finding truthful information, I think you'd best look elsewhere.
@@rhwing5095 He is a geopolitical analyst. Analysts are in the business of predicting what will most likely occur given the information available. For example, he predicted Kiev would fall within 2 weeks, whilst I had predicted that it would take 2 months to fall. I based this on the types of units deployed to the border prior to the invasion and the fact that the Ukrainians were a democracy, where thinking outside the box is encouraged. Having been personally in a combat situation, I can personally attest to how critical the ability to think creatively is. But guess what happened? We were both wrong! And all factors considered, I have never been happier to be incorrect in my analysis! Regarding consistency in belief, I am a Libertarian, where as Peter describes himself as an independent, who will vote for whom ever has the "better" positions. Personally, I have voted for both Democrats and Republicans, but only if there is no Libertarian option. In one of his books, Peter has identified as a Libertarian of some sort. I believe that he said this to state that he is not "tribally" left or right. I think tribalism is dumb, outside of professional football of course. Go 'Niner's! And boo for the Raiders, KC, and any other team.
Peter never mentioned the declining and aging white population in the west rather just mentions the population decrease in China and also does not mention huge populations like Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, and Bangladesh.
@@charlesmcdonald1973 Good luck with THAT prognosis. If anything is heading to zero its most probably the US dollar. Go look up the BRICS mBridge project and their future use of a Gold backed blockchain digital currency for international settlement between members. 59 nations have said they want to join the BRICS. The US dollar as THE global reserve currency is heading for the toilet. Shame you probably didn't buy BTC years ago when it was a lot cheaper. Now it is out of many people's purchasing power and soon to get even more expensive.
This guy talks a lot of bs. Absolute disinformation from Peter. I see this guy as a western tool to convince a population that they stand a chance against Russia
This is about a year old. I would like to see Peter come back. His approach to these many topics without an ideological bent makes him unique in geopolitics. Others like John Mearsheimer start with a politically conservative outlook and it often leads to incorrect conclusions.
God why do old posts keep getting on UA-cam showing "7 days ago" etc. Very annoying. I had to watch 9 minutes of this (great interview) until it became clear that is at least 2 years old. Grrrrrrr
Channels are reposting everything to regenerate views and stats for the youtube algorythm. It isn't obvz but says Jan '23 in the desc at the very bottom.
IF China has this alleged age crisis, it can literally be fixed in 13-15 years, by increasing the child birth rate, by offering incentives to young people. China isn't going to collapse in a decade due to aging population...
Birth rates are no that easy to fix. South Korea and Japan have been giving cash incentives, government dating programs etc for decades and its barely made a dent
I hate to break it to you, but the demographic data coming out of China (the official data, mind you) has actually gotten an order of magnitude worse in the year since this interview. The birthrate has declined since 2017 faster than what happened to the Jews of Europe during the Holocaust. As @Jacksaxby pointed out, fixing a declining birth rate is actually incredibly difficult. It requires allocating huge sums of money and space to families, and the policy of China is to do the opposite in order to maintain a controlled economy. Even if that was politically feasible (and it isn't), you'd then need to make sure their parents are taken care of so they can afford to have children without worrying about having to feed/take care of elderly relatives, something else that isn't happening. And you'd need to make sure that they have access to homes with enough rooms, enough spare spending money to feel they can afford a child, and on and on and on... and the worst part is that if you do every single one of those things, it STILL doesn't guarantee that the birth rate will improve at all. And of course there's the final issue; it's too late for children born today to help fix the population crisis. We've long passed the point of no return; that happened 20 years ago. The problem with demographics is that tomorrow's catastrophe can very well be today's boom... and that's exactly what a demographic dividend is. When China's economy was booming, nobody was thinking about how urbanization would drive the country to ruin in 40 years.
Does Zeihan believe Russia lost half a million troops in Afghanistan, both Chechen wars, Transnistria and Georgia? I'm no Russian apologist but this smacks of intentional misinformation. I don't hate Zeihan but experts should avoid speaking in absolute terms if they want to be taken seriously. I think John Mearsheimer is a little more pragmatic and even handed with his analysis(though not without his narrative bias).
Zeihan’s macro picture has been correct. Not sure why some claim he’s a liar. Been following him for seven years. He’s taught me how to think about geopolitics
I mean they’re doing a tax in Russia right now so I’d say they’re doing pretty good. Now Russia has to give China a bunch of land because they’re just not able really do anything about it.
@@entrenchgamer I mean he is only just estimating based on the knowledge he has at that moment. It's impossible to 100% tell the future because well it's the future.
He just has read Russian and Soviet history and been to the place. I live 300 km from the war zone in Ukraine. Anyone who had lived through the Soviet regime knows what the Russians are doing, regardless of the propaganda they put out for the rest of the world
Putting the original air date in the video description would show basic respect to viewers.
Well there you go you have your answer. Joe don't care bout you.
Just scroll down.
@@MrUltraworld yeah that's where the description is.
the date is THERE ... just OPEN your eyes...
Released Jan 7, 2023
JRE probably posted it to show how right/wrong Pete is as hind sight is 20/20.
Air on Spotify June 8, 2023
thought this was january 2023
@@theKaisersose101it was
Jan 6 2023
Before the 2023 offensive failed and before gaza war.
No. If you google Joe Rogan #1921 it's January 2023
This is an old video from last year.
Yup, Russian losses are over 350,000 now
@@Apophis1010- that’s the losses from last year. We are now approaching 1M.
@@PelicansCourtsideClubI don’t think it was due to UA-cam censorship. He had an exclusivity contract with Spotify. That contract has come to an end and he can upload to other platforms.
@@Apophis1010 thats casualties man. 2/3 of those are probably already back on the front lines again.
oh yeah why they reposted it 🤔
Time for Joe to have Peter on again and blow his mind again.
YES!!
What porn category would that fall under?
Let’s get an epic podcast, then. I want to see a group cast with Vivek , Theo, Elon, Zach Whittaker, Tulsi, and Bill Maher. Musical Guest; In Living Color
@@michaeleversole9400sounds like a manic episode 😳🤭
We need an updated interview from this year.
i'd love an update how bitcoin will go negative
Joe and his people really need to do a follow up interview here with Peter, i believe this episode is about a year old so another episode would line up perfectly. Revisit the talking points and aee where it all stands now. Peter might not be 100% correct on everything but people would be foolish not to listen and take note of what he says.
This guy talks a good game, but he is clearly spitballing.
Instead Joe is talking to straight up Nazi Propaganda Assets
@@sinesaiisometimes you are just riffing with the boys and next thing you know you are spitballing in India to a conference of business executives about how to take geo political advantage of Chinas imminent collapse
@@sinesaiiread his books bro he’s not spitballing lol
@@fcsomerta7680he’s a jerk off mate
Get him on here again. I follow Peter on YT and he gives frequent updates on stuff but a new long forum talk would be great.
Yes!
Progressive updates is good for us to hear. Peter is speculative and at least knows that anything can change at any time so his assessment of the future will always be evolving.
@@Aussie-Mocha That’s certainly a way to say he’s almost always wrong
@@Inclimatic
Ok!
Being speculative does allow for margins of error.
There is no one that can predict the future with 100% accuracy. 50/50 at best
Why? Peter has routinely been wrong on just about every political take in the past 10 years. Lmao
Peter’s been wrong substantially especially with domestic politics. And he’s been wrong on Ukraine as well, the sanctions he along with every other state department member shouted from the hills that it would cripple the Russian economy… it didn’t. Juxtapose that with John Mearsheimer’s positions and well…Peter’s not the end all be all to say the least.
please add the time this was first aired to the description
12-18 months ago
no
this
You will address Jamie as Jamie!!!!! Duh.
The numbers gives context to time frame
Peter is one of those guys who largely goes unchecked because he speaks well.
It always makes me skeptical when someone has a concise answer to everything, as if complex relationships can be boiled down to witty statemments and the future is a linear projection.
And you're one of those people who probably believes in Crypto Currency...
@@lfnt7069it’s been HiS Job His Entire Life.
When Your View of the world is the Screen In Your Hand. That is the Size of Your Playing Field.
PZ travels the World and is Engaged in it.
Unlike most People in Merica that Chant USA USA every touchdown Their team scores….
A limited view… Good Morning…..
Well,you have to be eloquent in order to deliver what you're trying to say especially to people that aren't as involved in geopolitics.
@@lfnt7069He doesn't have 5 hours to sit and give lectures about politics and geopolitics. If you're that invested just read books and follow news from sources that have been fact checked to a higher degree. Peter isn't linear at all. At all instances he gives multiple situations of what could happen. If you're not convinced then follow his channel and see for yourself.
The best interview i've seen in the show, excellent!!!
I've been listening to Peter for a While Now, and he has allot of material out, hours and hours worth....
You should have Zeihan on every 6 months.
This man deserves to be shamed for the rest of his life for saying that the price of Bitcoin would decrease by $17000 when the price was $16000, implying that it would go down to trade at a negative price. Not only is it absolutely idiotic to think that a purely digital, and absolutely scarce, currency could trade for a negative quality of dollars, what actually happened after this video aired made him look so, so foolish. Price went up for the next year, without any huge pullbacks, up to about $70,000.
Peter is an idiot.
instead we get baker att
He’s too Zesty
@@Be_reasonable101 no
@@user-ww8nz5oo2l listening to this year old broadcast is actually interesting. This smug Biden sycophant Zeihan is pretty wrong.
Joe is about to get even richer now that he's airing old shows and new ones. The floodgates have opened
And, why not?
@@PsychHealth-wk9in suck it softly
At least we get a comment section now
It’s very frustrating thinking it’s new only to realize it’s old out of date and already listened too often.
@@Birdsaregovspys6969 at least we have a comment section now
Take a drink everytime joe's mind is blown
no doubt
Joe "Jesus F**ing Christ!" Rogan
@@immortaljanus - don't do it with alcohol - no one could survive that much.
I laughed so hard the 30th time Joe said "Jesus!", that I had to make a comment. I see you guys beat me to it!
Joes Guest have been Meh as far as interesting…
LOVED this episode. Peter is the only person that I listen to ALL of his audio content he puts out. Everything he says is always interesting.
And mostly wrong
You listen to the quack for information, don't be stupid, everything he say turn out to be bullshit. But he does tell a good story.
lol you listen because hes usually wrong about everything 😂
Peter is proof that confidence, eloquence and arrogance get more listeners than accuracy and honesty. He is a sound bite journalist for people who don't want to think for themselves.
You should marry him then
An interesting interview. Joe asked a lot of good questions, listened, and then asked more questions for clarification of points or to dig deeper before moving on to his next question. It sounds like work went into preparing the interview questions.. Peter Zeihan is very knowledgeable, big picture kind of guy and he tends to approach things with logical point of view..
They should put a date in the title of these old videos. I get they have the number but it’s not obvious to everyone that it’s old.
The only way you can kinda tell if it’s old is if Joe looks more normal
@@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842 he doesn’t look normal now? 😂
oldies but goldies
This was back when Zeihan was still being non partisan or playing the I am a smart fact based liberal who hangs out with conservatives. Now he is a far left civ intel agent again.
hes a liar
@@user-ww8nz5oo2lBases on what?
He should make a new video updating us on the current situation and how his predictions have played out. It seems like he’s already hit a few of them.
He makes lots of new videos updating his views….daily in fact, look up his you tube page.
I know there’s a lot of Peter critics but I personally enjoy the way he explains past events as well as ongoing world dynamics, I always get something out of it.
Peter Ziban gives you the knowledge to understand the world & took me 6 yrs of courses in economic development, geology, geography. He is brilliant the way he integrates knowdge.
hes a liar
@@user-ww8nz5oo2lnaw, your just dumb and don't like his opinion because it goes against your world view. Im sure you think Tucker Carlson is Brite.
@@user-ww8nz5oo2lbased on?
@@user-ww8nz5oo2l I try to keep an open mind. But nobody who calls him a liar ever provides examples. I'd be happy to learn about any fact checking you've done.
@@andybenis Ukraine winning the war
China collapsing socioeconomically in 10 yrs
Ukraine having less deaths than Russia
Russia not having enough military assets
Bitcoin will go to zero
United States has stable birthrates.
The United States didn't blow up the gas line
All emphatically stated lies
Zeihan talking confidently about 25 years into the future... Imagine anyone in 1999 could EVER have predicted the zeitgeist of 2024?
@@ozgurkibar9778 Alex Jones
Terence McKenna kinda did
@@ozgurkibar9778 Bill Cooper
Well certain things are inevitable even at that timescale. Demographics for one. Resources and industrial capacities usually are as well.
He’s not predicting zeitgeist; he’s actually really bad at that stuff. He’s telling us what is possible based on economics, demographics, geography, and supply chains. He predicted Ukraine several years before it happened. He also predicted the demographic collapse.
I do not care how old this video is, this has to be the most comprehensive and expansive interview on geopolitics, energy and supply chain dynamics I have ever ingested - PLEASE Share ALLOT!
Except if you have watched the body of his work, you'd realize his overwhelming politic bias makes his information largely useless. He's not presenting objective research or analysis, he's writing narratives that suit that bias. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
@@Ekrindul I agree that there is bias in his analysis. However, the info on the devastation that Russia has inflected (death) on the Ukraine population is true. Also, the fact that Russia, whether it is with the Axis side in WWII or on their own, have always seen the need to kept Europe under their thumb is evidenced by history. If Ukraine "wins" - stops Russia; it will take them Generations to recover whereas Russian infrastructure, away from the their border with Europe, walks away relatively untouched if they lose. For better or worse, we need to support Ukraine as they, troops wise, alone are fighting to keep what I believe is European's largest crop land, free from Russia control.
@@Martian_Alien Ukraine will never recover. Their birth rate was already below sustainable levels before the war. All Russia has to do is flood Ukraine with Russian migrants and the country will inevitably be Russian. Ukraine already lost.
You should have him on again instead of Mike Baker every 2 weeks
I’ve actually had a 180-degree turn on Peter Zeihan’s geopolitical analysis and with in the beginning of discussion he explains that he’s a generalist. He definitely knows the importance of free trade with in NAFTA and also solid understanding of what has gone on in Eastern Europe and that USA is definitely not an island needs trading partners. He definitely knows his global Agriculture Energy and Mining sectors. As an American he’s very well informed and I’m saying this as a compliment and my 180-degree turn.
I so love listening to Peter. Informative and down to earth. Thanks for posting this!,❤❤
The beauty of his youtube interactions. He has been on a few yrs. You can see how his predictions pan out. He is right often. Sometimes not. His work assumes smart people won't change course and everything is static in his world. But I do enjoy his info. Some of best out there IMO.
You can't predict human stupidity.
Sure was wrong about Bitcoin going to zero I hope no~one took him seriously
Thank you for reposting this!!!! Spotify release didn’t do this podcast.. justice .
Why?
I think they did didn't they? I listened to it 4 times
This man deserves to be shamed for the rest of his life for saying that the price of Bitcoin would decrease by $17000 when the price was $16000, implying that it would go down to trade at a negative price. Not only is it absolutely idiotic to think that a purely digital, and absolutely scarce, currency could trade for a negative quality of dollars, what actually happened after this video aired made him look so, so foolish. Price went up for the next year, without any huge pullbacks, up to about $70,000.
Peter is an idiot.
@@afaqgul2165 zeihan is a geopolitical hack.
john Mearsheimer and him debating would be awesome
Mearsheimer is a putin stooge... he should head to moscow and stay there
I was thinking exactly the same thing, how funny.
Both are the type of professional caliber think tank stuff would be a fabulous debate
It would be like a Dentist and a circus clown plying their trades.
This is my second time watching this interview well worth it
This needs to be seen again. Thanks for the wealth of information.
After catching Mr Zeihan at least a couple of times getting things really wrong, I take everything he says with 2 x grains o salt.
He is at times like the Jim Cramer of the geopolitical spectrum ... he is sitting on some DoD boards...
Thanks for reply and info. Appreciated. Now I understand why every time I listen to him I am tempted to tell him: easy with the piano down the stairs!
Not disagreeing with you, but do you have examples?
For example he said very confidently that in Transylvania the vast majority of people are hungarian ethnic which is completely false. The vast majority are Romanians who were there approximately 12 centuries before them. I come from Romania. Secondly, are his statements regarding the war in Ukraine. Everybody in that part of the world knows what really happened in Ukraine. For example everything started with so called popular revolution Maidan in 2014 that we romanians saw it as a copycat of what happened in Bucharest in 1989. The similarity was absolutely shocking ( foreign intervention making people on the street believe that theyb actually made the revolution - we were the useful idiots). So, he is just blowing hot air. He has indeed many good points on many other subjects, and that makes him very credible talking about what it is going to happened in 25 years from now ....
@@JohnMarinescu-q7hhe might be wrong about certain facts but what you are saying about the Maidan is not accurate.
It was very much a peoples movement, talk to anyone from western Ukraine and they will tell you that they stood behind the protesters.
Yes there was foreign support, all of it under the pretext of supporting the rights of the people under oppression... btw where have we heard that pretext before? In the unlawful invasion of the Donbas.
10:45 well this aged nicely
should be 2 hours longer
People like you shouldn't get to breathe. Your ignorance is stupendous
@@seasideshutterworx no
@@user-ww8nz5oo2l ok sorry
@@user-ww8nz5oo2l ok sorry
Enjoy Peter and, of course, Joe. Great guest. Thank you. It’s great that you are focusing on ppl who we all wish to learn more from. Keep it up!❤ 🇺🇸👏🎈❤️
I love Peter; hoping Joe brings him back!
@@Lords1997 I hope he is never allowed back. He's a lying hack.
I can't think of another pundit that gets things wrong more than this guy
There is this bald guy on CNBC. Kramer? You can literally bet your life saving against him!
He sure doesn't know crap about crypto! Haha
You should have Peter on more often. Breath of fresh air. Thank you.
He's a moron. Dead wrong on China for years. Dead wrong on Russia for years. Not one thing right in his so-called 'analysis' 😅 of Ukraine war.
Poor guy is in a mental prison of his own biases. He's a moron.
Peter does video releases on patreon and has a youtube channel he releases the same videos about a week later
I'm so glad this was uploaded.
I'm so glad Joe dropped the exclusive with Spotify, full podcasts not being on UA-cam was a void
I want him to come back on the show SO MUCH. Joe get to work on that please!
So you can listen to more lies??? He been wrong about everything he said.
@@2amNerd no. He's a lying hack
@@user-ww8nz5oo2lnaw your a hack.
@@justinwoodall461 naw you're an urbanite and uneducated. You think you're smart though. Confidence and ignorance is a bad combo
This dudes been proven wrong over and over
I'm only 5 minutes in and this just feels like propaganda. I'm not familiar with the guy so maybe that's unfair of me, but so far it just boils down to 'Russia bad!'
@@as3609you do not need a whole Podcast to arrive at that very true conclusion sadly. Russia is bad they are breaking their non agression treaties which puts them squarely in the bad and not to be trusted category. Now go ahead and make excuses...
It has been 18 months - would be AMAZING for JRE to revisit with Perer on this
Especially now after Ukraine has invaded Kursk region and Russia did not retaliate with a nuclear strike.
especially now since they have taken the fight to russia proper
AMAZING PODCAST ❤ I FEEL SO HAPPY ABOUT AMERICA 🇺🇸
Definitely the best episode of this FG show 😊
I've never seen anyone that seems to know so much about so much..
This dude got Ukraine so wrong. He was so confident of his views.
and biden
Yes and he did admit that. He's not ever once said this will go the way I say.
Ukraine is still ongoing? What was he wrong about?
@ that it would be over very quickly and russia would get smashed.
Peter making the WEF proud
Did Daddy Putin pat you on the head for coming up with that, Ivan?
@@junkscience6397 You live on a this or that paradigm bud. i support neither.
A thoughtful and fascinating video thank you.
Stephen is probably the most reliable person who has a good grast on world issues
Old video but great conversation! Thanks for sharing!
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Fantasy hour with Zeihan and his tales.
thank you for disproving any of the shit he’s claimed, c o p e
@Brockliy you can't disprove predictions about the future, dopey 😂
@@Jeromewhite123 you can show counter sources that go against what he’s predicting… holy fuck
Show his old predictions that are wrong then. He's been making predictions for a very long time now, he talked about the Russian invasion YEARS before it happened.
I can't take this guy seriously
I don't mind the re-run, a lot of it is still relevant. I do love the enormous amount of "phew'ing" Joe has to do at these less-than-peachy observations :D
For some reason, I still feel a connection to what's happening in the world right now.
It would be good if someone would match Zeihan's predictions to what has actually happened. I don't think his percentage would be very high. China is on the verge of economic collapse, but not for the reasons he predicted.
Or… China will probably not collapse at all.
Honestly, go to China. Everything you have been told is probably untrue or heavily exaggerated.
China possibly has been misreporting its population for years… it is not 1.5 billion but closer to 850 million.
I believe you but how did you find out
@@youtuber6185 Lei's real talk community discussion
Already saw this one! Damn got too excited
yes, get him back! I follow his YT channel and even if he is not 100% accurate in his projections, I think he makes a heck of a lot of sense. 🦌💌❤️👍
This was from last year? wow.
I hate that I'm late I love this guy!
Ask him about the USS Liberty!
We need another update from Peter.
He gives them almost daily.
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Joe needs an update podcast with Peter. I need the information with Joe asking more questions
I subscribed to tbis 8he is soo smart he's right. Love your show Joe and thanks !!!
About 3 weeks ago, Zeihan said in an interview with RNZ "Biden will win the election 100% in a landslide."
He may be smart but his commonsense is way off sometimes.
To be fair this was before God emperor Trump survived a assassination atempt
No one is always right... except me.
@@aarondetinne8128 Sure, but he said landslide which is nuts.
This is also a year old... a lot has changed since then but more importantly news coverage is a bit more critical on even traditionally left leaning news sources.
@@aarondetinne8128 He made the statement on RNZ about a month ago.
If Rogan wants to have a world-class geopolitical scientist on, he should invite Prof. John Mearsheimer.
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This conversation took place shortly before Yevgeny Prigozhin’s abortive 2023 march on Moscow. Though not specifically predicted, that oddly started and badly ended effort was the sort of event that Mr. Zeihan’s warnings comprehend. If proper attention is accorded to Mr. Zeihan’s careful caveating, the facile nature of some ‘headline predictions’ is less important than consideration of longer term relevance.
Please make a follow up podcast with Peter
He has a patreon where he updates mostly up to date info and a youtube that has about a one week delayed release schedule
Please have him on again!!!
Stratfor has deep CIA ties. Take this with a grain of salt.
Master bullshitter
so now in 2024 we see all his predictions where just...... WRONG
Always the case. But he is such a good orator....
@@wienerchronist9860he isn’t great. The intonations and dramatic pauses were very theatrical. Meh
Geopolitics is science. Review data, form hypothesis. Not always going to be right.
He's gotten a lot of things right as well, though.
So, in the world/work of Geopolitics, he's on par.
Excellent
Even though I watched it originally… I still thinks it’s excellent… uncle Joe can you get him back for an update !
Great video. This man knowa his stuff!!
Unfortunately old stuff, but still useful to watch again.
Bring back Peter! We need an update!
I absolutely love Peter Zeihan and the majority of his geopolitical views, with a few salient exceptions. One of these is his view on the war on drugs. That being said, I do appreciate how his views are all based on facts and figures that are largely available to the general public, rather than the largely boomer held views on controlling the actions of others. In fact, I believe this is one of his healthy skepticism(s) on big government.
Do you love him because what he says is consistent with what you believe? From what I've seen, he makes strawman arguments and distorts claims to further his message. He does not present different points of view. He is not interested in truth, he is interested in spreading his version of the truth. I think he's a good example of a very low quality information source. "Experts" like this are a dime a dozen on youtube, and everybody's got their favourite talking head. If you are interested in finding truthful information, I think you'd best look elsewhere.
@@rhwing5095 He is a geopolitical analyst. Analysts are in the business of predicting what will most likely occur given the information available. For example, he predicted Kiev would fall within 2 weeks, whilst I had predicted that it would take 2 months to fall. I based this on the types of units deployed to the border prior to the invasion and the fact that the Ukrainians were a democracy, where thinking outside the box is encouraged. Having been personally in a combat situation, I can personally attest to how critical the ability to think creatively is.
But guess what happened? We were both wrong! And all factors considered, I have never been happier to be incorrect in my analysis!
Regarding consistency in belief, I am a Libertarian, where as Peter describes himself as an independent, who will vote for whom ever has the "better" positions. Personally, I have voted for both Democrats and Republicans, but only if there is no Libertarian option.
In one of his books, Peter has identified as a Libertarian of some sort. I believe that he said this to state that he is not "tribally" left or right. I think tribalism is dumb, outside of professional football of course. Go 'Niner's! And boo for the Raiders, KC, and any other team.
Putin has removed Shoygu since this talk
our propaganda goes both ways. it placates us and tells Putin who to kill. It's like saving the CIA a lot of effort.
Maybe have Scott Ridder on , He may have a differnt analisis
They will shut down rogans shows.
Peter never mentioned the declining and aging white population in the west rather just mentions the population decrease in China and also does not mention huge populations like Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, and Bangladesh.
Bring Peter Back!
This is the guy who thinks bitcoin is going to zero lmao
It still could. It the cash money backing it disappears. Nobody STILL knows who has it. 😂
@@charlesmcdonald1973 Good luck with THAT prognosis. If anything is heading to zero its most probably the US dollar. Go look up the BRICS mBridge project and their future use of a Gold backed blockchain digital currency for international settlement between members. 59 nations have said they want to join the BRICS. The US dollar as THE global reserve currency is heading for the toilet. Shame you probably didn't buy BTC years ago when it was a lot cheaper. Now it is out of many people's purchasing power and soon to get even more expensive.
Looks like it is
Bitcoin relies on web connection to the world does it not? That can go offline VERY easy.
I'd do some googling about Bitcoin before making incorrect comments about it
His prediction for the Ukraine counter offensive is a classic, in utter failure to understand war.
This guy talks a lot of bs. Absolute disinformation from Peter. I see this guy as a western tool to convince a population that they stand a chance against Russia
Everyone was wrong about this and he's admitted to being wrong.
@@justinwoodall461 where.
@@user-ww8nz5oo2l he does weekly sometimes daily podcasts and has admitted several times to being wrong about Ukraine.
Miserably failed, this guy seems,knowlegable, only this.
Peter's channel is one of my favorites on UA-cam. Please have him on again.
Loved it !!!! ❤
Is this an old video reuploaded? All the information about Russia/Ukraine at the beginning is very...off?
This is about a year old. I would like to see Peter come back. His approach to these many topics without an ideological bent makes him unique in geopolitics. Others like John Mearsheimer start with a politically conservative outlook and it often leads to incorrect conclusions.
Subscribe to his channel. He posts new stuff daily.
@@1stfirsttexan "Hi, this is Peter Zeihan, calling from... the Moon." 😁
In stark contrast to Zeihan, Measheimer is not consistently wrong about every single prediction he makes
So how did it go Peter?
What are you even referring to?
His shitty takes.
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Oh wow
Thanx for the upload🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤
God why do old posts keep getting on UA-cam showing "7 days ago" etc. Very annoying. I had to watch 9 minutes of this (great interview) until it became clear that is at least 2 years old. Grrrrrrr
Channels are reposting everything to regenerate views and stats for the youtube algorythm. It isn't obvz but says Jan '23 in the desc at the very bottom.
IF China has this alleged age crisis, it can literally be fixed in 13-15 years, by increasing the child birth rate, by offering incentives to young people. China isn't going to collapse in a decade due to aging population...
Birth rates are no that easy to fix. South Korea and Japan have been giving cash incentives, government dating programs etc for decades and its barely made a dent
I hate to break it to you, but the demographic data coming out of China (the official data, mind you) has actually gotten an order of magnitude worse in the year since this interview. The birthrate has declined since 2017 faster than what happened to the Jews of Europe during the Holocaust.
As @Jacksaxby pointed out, fixing a declining birth rate is actually incredibly difficult. It requires allocating huge sums of money and space to families, and the policy of China is to do the opposite in order to maintain a controlled economy. Even if that was politically feasible (and it isn't), you'd then need to make sure their parents are taken care of so they can afford to have children without worrying about having to feed/take care of elderly relatives, something else that isn't happening. And you'd need to make sure that they have access to homes with enough rooms, enough spare spending money to feel they can afford a child, and on and on and on... and the worst part is that if you do every single one of those things, it STILL doesn't guarantee that the birth rate will improve at all.
And of course there's the final issue; it's too late for children born today to help fix the population crisis. We've long passed the point of no return; that happened 20 years ago. The problem with demographics is that tomorrow's catastrophe can very well be today's boom... and that's exactly what a demographic dividend is. When China's economy was booming, nobody was thinking about how urbanization would drive the country to ruin in 40 years.
Does Zeihan believe Russia lost half a million troops in Afghanistan, both Chechen wars, Transnistria and Georgia? I'm no Russian apologist but this smacks of intentional misinformation. I don't hate Zeihan but experts should avoid speaking in absolute terms if they want to be taken seriously. I think John Mearsheimer is a little more pragmatic and even handed with his analysis(though not without his narrative bias).
What a good ep.
I lost count of how many times Joe said "Jesus". Peter did a good job of freaking him out!
Zeihan’s macro picture has been correct. Not sure why some claim he’s a liar. Been following him for seven years. He’s taught me how to think about geopolitics
Maybe find a truth teller like John Mearshimer
So… he said in a year Ukraine would be in charge of the war.
How’s that looking?
He has consistently been shown to be incorrect on numerous occasions, leading to a significant erosion of his critical credibility in my estimation.
I mean they’re doing a tax in Russia right now so I’d say they’re doing pretty good. Now Russia has to give China a bunch of land because they’re just not able really do anything about it.
Regrettably, I am unable to comprehend the content of your response, my apologies.
@@entrenchgamer I mean he is only just estimating based on the knowledge he has at that moment. It's impossible to 100% tell the future because well it's the future.
@@entrenchgamerwow you should've known this awhile ago
Lefty's never learn. You'll never admit you supported him with enthusiasm
This has not aged well for all of Joe’s listeners who took the pathetic Trump pro Russia position.
Please don’t cry…
I NEED him back on the podcast. Right or not, he's a very talented speaker!
He has a youtube and patreon account
Thanks.
This guy sounds like I entered "spam me like russophobic encyclopedia of bulls*#$" as a gpt prompt
100%
yet another ruZZian bot
He just has read Russian and Soviet history and been to the place. I live 300 km from the war zone in Ukraine. Anyone who had lived through the Soviet regime knows what the Russians are doing, regardless of the propaganda they put out for the rest of the world