If she was anorexic and promoting starvation, people would be OUTRAGED and telling her to SEEK MEDICAL INTERVENTION. Her anorexia would never be "accepted" or viewed as "body positivity".
Virgie: Eat as much you want. Person: This is how much I want to eat. Virgie: No you're wrong. Your portion needs to match mine. Also Virgie: Love your body, eat without shame, and live a life of respect and dignity regardless of size and health status. Person who chooses to not eat as much sweet/salty/fried snacks, because they like how they look now and the taste of vegetables more, and not how a lot of sweet/salty/fried snacks makes them feel, and don't really like the flavour of some of them even: So we're cool? Virgie:Omg no, why are you attacking and pushing me down like this as if you're surperiour or have some illution of grandure to prove? Get away from me! You're ruining everything!
exactly! I honestly dont like cake AT ALL, is not my dessert of choice, I hate that wet bread between the layers... So if I just said no to the cake she would take it as a personal offense?? imagine being so insecure.
@@angelinparadise7282 Yeah. She talks about enjoying food and being happy with yourself, but if she sees someone happily enjoying a smaller amount than her, suddenly her whole day is ruined? What if the person has diabetes, or a mild case of either lactose intolerance or allergies? Does she really think they should inconvinience themselves just because she needs to see more plates with more food in order for her to be happy during the hours of the event?
@@1Katakana And I think no matter the reason, it's a choice we make and nobody can police our food choice. I really believe Virgie herself feel inferior and would like to be slim, ect... And convinced herself of everything she is trying to convince other in her messages. And everything that makes her feel at least a bit insecure / uncomfortable / ect... She will label it as fatphobic and patriarcal, when ultimatly, she just feel bad to be the one that eat the most.
@@kokoro_flow She is indeed. She talkes about eating what you want, but it's clear that that only applies if what you want is all the sweet/sugary stuff that she can’t go without. She says that "Health is loving my body, eating without shame, and let every person live with dignity and respect regardless of health and size status", but it's clear that she thinks that people who eats smaller portions without shame and loves their bodies when their bodies doesn’t have the same bmi as her doesn’t deserve that and should be shamed by her. But by her own logic of eating as much as you want, she should be glad that some people chooses to have less, because that would mean more leftovers for her to stuff her face with during round 2.
@@kokoro_flow Absolutely. Firstly it's their bodies their choice, so she can mind her own buissness, and secondly, not wanting an illness or a difficult life due to medical conditions isn't fatphobic, it's I-don't-want-diabetes phobic and I-don't-want-to-make-life-more-challenging-for-me phobic, which are very reasonable things to not want/aim for, and again, she doesn't get a say/vote in this matter regarding someone elses health and their view of a good/happily satisfied life/body for them.
I can see it now-- Him: Well, I wanted to talk about and try out different things: new movies, a day at the beach, baseball game, art gallery, walking in the park... Friend: so, what did you guys try out or talk about? Him: Restaurant A, Restaurant B, Bakery This, Food Truck A, Food Truck B, Ice Cream Parlor That...
Well ... you probably know the saying: Misery loves company. People who suffer, sometimes want to drag down other people too. If you're suffering, you somehow feel better when people around you also suffer. It's a weird psychological thing.
@@Gaia_Seraphina I've been there, I was that someone who tried to drag people down. I was deeply depressed, alcoholic and a teen, I went to therapy. I like to believe I don't do it anymore, mostly because I don't interact with people much. It's not that we like seeing people miserable, it's more that we hate seeing people happy. It reminds us how unhappy we are, and it's always easier to drag people down than building ourselves up.
I'm the same. Portion control is so important or I will eat too much and then the urge to throw it up is overwhelming. I'd rather just help myself by not letting myself get to that.
they just automatically assume that portion control is only used for weight loss, when it in fact can also be used for weight gain. there’s so little focus on the opposite side of the spectrum now a days, i’m actually struggling to find healthy calorie dense foods because most meal prepping is done with the intent of loss. :/
to you guys/girls/theys,i hope your journey of being healthy goes well. virgie definitely spreads false and offensive information,either for fame,to be an asshole or another reason i can't quite say for certain.
yeah, imagine being at someone's party and getting mad because you can't get a big slice of cake that is most likely supposed to be enough for all people.
Yes this! Imagine complaining that you can’t overeat for once and making an entire video about it, meanwhile families are starving in your own country and around that world. Talk about being a whiner. This is what I think a lot of older people think millennials are like, but most of us aren’t. The loudest ones get the most attention though.
@@AstroHierarchy its not even about her not getting a big slice... This crazy lady thinks someone else asking for a snaller slice themselfs is a bad thing somehow
1st time I saw a clip of Virgie she was in her 30's. I was shocked because I thought she was in her 50's. She's an example of how an unhealthy lifestyle ages you fast
Naaah dont be daft, she is in her fifties clearly looks like she is. Just the style choices alone and she just looks aged. Right? She isnt actually in her 30's is she?😳
Not to mention overeating to the point of morbid obesity makes it harder to be mobile thus making you more likely to have to depend on others to get things done. Doesn't scream independence to me. I want to run as fast as a man and be seen as capable, I don't want to have to rely on my man to take care of my responsibilities because I am too inactive to do so.
It really baffles me that “there’s no such thing as overeating” is a thing she said. Binge eating is a very real eating disorder. It can seriously impact your health. Some people, like myself, will eat when their bored and not hungry. I control my intake because I know that sometimes I’m not hungry, I’m stressed or bored. I can’t fathom how someone doesn’t consider that when talking about food.
Yes exactly! Virgie and other fat activists won't even address points like this - despite claiming to be scholarly intellectuals ~ they put their message/ideology above the truth and it's not right at all
Comfort eating as well. I know this, because I WAS a comfort eater. And yes it was a tough habbit to beat. I found solace in food because other aspects of my life made me feel miserable. But comfort eating and becoming fat certainly didn't help those other problems, it was just yet ANOTHER problem piled on the others making the others worse as well.
funny part is a controlled heroine addiction is far less dangerous, It trows some hormones out off wack a bit but it doesn't really kill you unless you keep pushing for more or get killed by fentynel
@Project Eternity back at you :P did you know in France, people who are drug dependant get regulated doses from the government and just go about their day like any other person. Most drugs aren't half as bad as people think.
The Cake story Virginie talks about is actually just about a woman saying "You're cutting the slices too thick." I've done this, and it's not because I was trying to eat less myself or police anyone else. Sometimes there's a lot of people and not a lot of cake. I remember at church, there was this one kid who loved to cut the cake, and it was always huge pieces at the start, and tiny slivers at the end, because he had no idea how to cut a regular sheet cake into enough pieces for sixty or eighty people. So you correct the person, and say "Please cut smaller pieces," just to be fair. But Virginie wanted that big, unfair slice, I guess.
Yeah, best to just make lines before you cut to make sure! Just keep cutting in halves until there’s enough equal pieces for all! You’re welcome, from Hints from Helouise!
I’m horrible at cutting cake. I always make some huge slices and some tiny ones. I just can’t seem to make it even no matter what. If she’s triggered by that, she needs therapyZ
When she smack talks vegetables, it makes me really sad. I love chocolate and cake, but I love vegetables too. Eating plants in high quantities makes me feel good, and while I'm not obese, I'm not particularly thin either. I hate this demonization of veg :(
I KNOOW I love veg and fruits(my favorite foods are raw tomatoes and drowning vegetables in sauce) and when I tell people that they think I’m insane lmao
Recently, after discovering I have a wheat intolerance, I started to refuse cake. I was shocked at the people around me who judged and felt the need to comment "One little piece won't hurt; You can be good tomorrow; come on, have some cake." I have a medical condition, that they are aware of, and still they want me to eat cake. No doubt to make themselves feel better about eating cake. Now, if I know there is going to be cake eating for someone's birthday at work (childcare, so it's always someone's birthday) I take my own cake (wheat free). I am still amazed that they actually managed to make me feel guilty for NOT eating cake.
Yup I dont like cake ..unless its homemade...I hate frosting so I say no thankyou...I like fruit its yummy to me but if I try to order the fruit salad everyone is like oh no treat yourself like as if im den myself? I like what im ordering mind ya bussiness people! Its not all a morality thing. Im totally indulging myself in pleasure when I am eating what I like to eat. People with diabetes do this to my mom too who has diabetes and kidney problems. Shes actually reversed her diabetes by staying off sugar. Now she can have a bit if she wants. But those people would have had her damage herself!
It's happening to me, for the same exact reason. People usually give me weird looks when I decide to eat chicken and french fries instead of a burger or pizza, but hey, if I eat that, I'll be dying with pain the next day
I have a milk protein intolerance, so pretty much the same issue here. Thankfully most people in my life understand that I just don’t want to feel sick for a bite of cake, and they leave me alone. The only thing I hate is how some people will feel guilty for not getting/making a cake that everyone can eat. It’s not a malicious thing at all, quite the opposite, they feel bad for leaving me out, but they really shouldn’t. It’s genuinely not that important for me and I don’t like it how they feel like they did something bad or ignored a guest, it’s nothing like that at all. I wish we all could just let go of the importance we placed on cake. I don’t mind not eating it, I don’t like it very much anyway, I don’t feel left out or ignored, there is no harm done but they still feel bad. I wish people would just shrug off me not wanting / being able to eat cake instead of making it into an issue of any kind. :/ Like, when dis it become such an important thing and why..?
@@yorguinarodriguez213 Given that I absolutely despise sandwiches or most things with too many non-homogenous ingredients, I never ate burgers (or almost any sandwich) to begin with. Those were always my preferred orders at fast food places, and I don't recall getting weird looks for it. Then again, I can be a little oblivious sometimes, and I wouldn't care much anyway, so I wouldn't have been watching for them.
I hate how people decided to turn "fat positivity" from being like "I'm not a monster for being overweight and I love myself despite what others say =)” into "healthy = pure evil"
Those same people are vulters. The health at every size was actually health for every size which I can get behind. The whole body positive movement is also stolen from people who don't have a choice to change the way they look; burn victims, amputees, etc. I'm all for we all deserve to love ourselves but these movements are not helping anyone now.
Unfortunately, a lot of people go to extremes. I had a close friend of several years that was a very funny and sweet but terribly insecure in her skin when we met in high school. As the years passed and her food addiction worsened she became much heavier. I would always try to lift her up about herself and her looks, but it wasn't easy when she became increasingly bitter about her weight and her relationship failings. She also wasn't an honest person. She would literally catfish guys online and then react terribly when they wouldn't go on a second date. As if it was all their fault for being lied to. She would praise lies paraded as facts by Tess and the like while simultaneously calling herself a disgusting whale no one will love. She refused every attempt to go on walks together to lose weight as a team but found a way to turn every conversation into her own misery and really developed a love hate relationship with men. Wanting them to want her, and making comments like how all men are weak and can't handle real women - while sitting right in front of my husband who's a wonderful person. I am all for loving the skin you're in. I'm 5'5", just barely under 200 pounds but have been heavier. I won't give up ice cream, but I also make sure to enjoy a varied diet that included fruits and vegetables. I don't go to the gym but I have a physically active job and go on walks. I try to maintain balance and to take care of myself and while my weight loss has been gradual I don't regain what I lose like so many of these "fat" UA-camrs claim. But when it comes to the very obese, I've yet to see a personal example that isn't dominated by refusal to accept blame and self loathing.
As an overweight woman trying to regain my health, Virgie inspires me to exercise and put down the cookies because she seems so mean, angry and unhappy that I want to actively try to be less like her. Lol. Probably the opposite of what she is going for
As someone who works out like 6 days a week, I feel like if you are, as you put it, trying to regain your health, you aren’t really ‘fat’, as you are doing everything in your power to lose weight. It is therefore unfair to wholly characterize you as fat as long as you keep exercising and practicing moderation. Keep it up! You got this!
@@thetommyboi1796 thank you so much! I am technically obese, but I used to be really athletic, so I am watching what I eat and starting with gentle exercise like walking, swimming and yoga because I am worried that my heavy body would put too much pressure on my joints if I did anything too difficult to start out with. There are a lot of diabetics in my family and I don't want to become one, and it kinda scared me to see obesity being pushed as healthy when I know first hand how it feels to be obese vs. how I felt when I was athletic and I know the long-term effects second hand from watching my diabetic family members. The HAES philosophy is terrifying and discouraging to those of us who are not in denial about our problem and looking to fix it.
Agree 100%. She doesn't have the willpower, so she just wants everyone to be like her. If she could take a magic pill tomorrow, and lose all the extra weight, you know she would.
The bit about vegetables was seriously weird and uncomfortable. No one hates vegetables that much except small children. I've struggled with my weight my entire life, although I'm a healthy weight now, and I have always loved all sorts of vegetables. Eating them isn't a gross health-obsessed chore.
She equates eating vegetables to submitting to patriarchy. That's so freakin' childish. Basically everything that she doesn't likes = patriarchy. People around the world eat vegetables with their every meal Virgie.
For the longest time I thought I hated vegetables. Turns out, I just hated the way my mom cooked vegetables. Broccoli tastes great when it's not mushy.
these "fat activists" only eat heavy calorie foods that provide no health benefits whatsoever. being as someone who loves to cook healthy meals, they really can't accept that healthy meals CAN be really really delicious as well
binge eater/bulimic: could you please give me the whole cake? and bake another 2 just for me? virgie: yas queen, eat how much you'd like! there are no long term consequences to your relationship with food!!!
Exactly. Instead of truly trying to dismantle the patriarchy and calling out the larger societal and systemic issues she just directs her petty rage at other women for having autonomy and self control over their bodies.
This woman is SO INFURIATING! She makes her living (probably much much more than I make) by spewing enabling language and false information. Her followers just want their unwillingness to say no to themselves to be validated. Disgusting
This is a bit true. My problem was that I couldn't walk past chocolate until about 3 years ago.....then I had a test for Hba1c...........now I keep walking 80% of the time, buuuuuut.....sometimes it's hard😂
Similarly I wanna just sit her down and say “girl i wear a size seven shoe and weigh 300 lbs. i’m not dieting because im a victim of the patriarchy, my feet just fucking hurt. Its not that deep.”
Yeah. I really like to be able to fit in regular chairs. To get up off the floor by myself. To fit in a regular bathtub. To chase my kids and (occasionally) catch them. For that, I'm willing to turn down cake sometimes.
I completely understand about wanting to fit into regular size chairs. We have several chairs at my home that have the sides up so you have to be a particular size to sit in them comfortably, and for the longest time I wasn't able to sit in them comfortably. My thighs would press up against the sides, and it would be massively uncomfortable. I felt so ashamed that I had let myself get that big. I had gained a lot of weight because my mom passed away in 2019, and I have always struggled with my weight. I've been up before and I've been down. My highest weight has been 267, and my lowest weight has been 199. And I have a huge list of family history and personal weight related issues. But last month, I decided I had had enough, and I'm currently working my way to 170 lb. I'm very proud to say that I've lost a good bit of weight (14 pounds) and can now fit in regular size chairs. I legitimately cried. Really sorry for the long reply, but I felt like sharing.
I've struggles with weight for years vant keep it on me for nothing many years ago in 2004 a friend git murders and its stressed me out that much I went form 11st 12oz to just under 7 stone it took me till 2011 to get back to ten stone and that's where I'm at still to this day go up to 10st 7lb and back down like a yoyo again I'm so contous about it and feel like I look anorexic even though I'm not the docs tell me I'm at a good weight but always getting comments and I hate it I would never dream of telling a bigger person fuck me you put on timber on so why do they feel the need to tell me I've lost weight can't stand it.. I would love to out on weight but they lady in question is putting some dangerous material yes be happy with your size but be contous of the aftermath don't throw it out there that you are fat shaming just because you want a smaller peice of cake then them that's fucked
They’re hypocrites! I’ve seen a group of them insult a “small fat” because she mentioned wanting to lose weight. Small fat= someone who is overweight but can still fit in regular chairs and even buy clothes from some places.
Oh my goodness yes! I am in bed right now, sick, and it's almost midnight, but I want to get up and start doing a mini workout right now, she has me so scared of my size and that I will eventually look like her if I don't lose the weight. Maybe it's my old ED coming up but people like her scare me sometimes.
I’m sorry, are you telling me this woman wrote a whole article just because she overheard somebody ask for a smaller slice of cake? How egocentric is she?
@@360.Tapestry you are starting to sound essinophobic. Maybe i dont want a big piece of cake and its not because im worried about my image. Its honestly not that complicated
I have been fat my entire life, I was literally born an overweight baby. My weight has been an insecurity of mine since childhood. The body positivity movement has helped a lot with my self acceptance and love, and made me want to focus solely on health and not appearance. But this fat activism, the glamorization of junk food, the disregard for physical health (or changing what “health” means) and basically saying that fat women are superior, it made me not even want to try to get healthy anymore. It’s the difference between self love (actually taking care of yourself) and self indulgence. Your videos are helping me realize that and now I want to get healthier again. Thank you for these excellent videos!
I didn't know you could be born overweight, that's interesting. Do you happen to know if it happens due to medical reasons or if it's just a case of a baby having a lot of baby fat?
Being an overweight baby doesn't make you heavier now. I know overweight babies that are bean poles. Don't get caught up in excuses as to why you're heavier, you can get healthier no matter what just stay focused and consistent.
@@nativepredator8803 Nah some people genetically have predispositions to weight gain, such as having metabolisms so low that they would need to workout insane hours just to burn through a low number of calories. Its not impossible to lose that weight, its just more of an uphill battle than someone who eats like shit and has a high metabolism. A child with a low metabolism, especially in a family uneducated on matters of health can’t really choose their eating habits and exercise until a much older age. Like I agree with you, but some people are sometimes screwed from the get go with metabolic problems, and other health concerns.
Overweight people will nearly allways develop joint issues at some point - so even though appearance alone may not be the focus, being slimmer is allways benefitial.
As I recover from my binge eating disorder, I feel like while "fat positive" or HAES activists are starting in the right direction by recognizing their relationship with food should be healed, they only ever seem to get halfway. Healing your relationship with food is so much more than removing the stigma away from eating "bad" foods, but their insecurity and difficult pasts with food keep them from truly listening when they're criticized. Thank you for your thoughtful video
I learned to love my fat body, but my knees are giving out, my mobility is decreasing, and I'm in constant pain. I love myself enough to begin to lose the weight that's affecting my health. I don't see a contradiction between self-acceptance and improving my health.
If you wanna loose weight for your health I suggest keto. I have lost so much weight and feel so much happier now. I can do more activities and have more endurance
Good luck! And, don't be afraid to try out different kinds of weight loss methods if one doesn't work. Sometimes all you need to do is cut calories and go for a run ~5 days a week, but for others something like keto is perfect! Try not to lose motivation if you have a bad week or two, and keep at it! We're all rooting for you, even if we're all just a bunch of strangers on the internet.
I was always athletic on build whatever that means. But hit 30 or so and went from 165 to 220. It's not just the aesthetic of being thin. I ran out of breath very quick. Hard time even walking. Couldn't play sports. The amount of things made more difficult by an extra 55 lbs of visceral fat is seemingly unending. I couldn't even do more than four pushups. Never again. But I lost the weight by lifting six days a week, cycling in the gym for an hour which was only hard for a week or two. You get use to it and enjoy it rather quick. I also walked to the gym about a mile. Tried to walk anything less than 2.5 miles. Took steps as well if under five flights. Most important I think though was reducing sugar intake to below 8 grams a day and cutting out bread. I had a Sunday treat day where I'd maybe take a trip to Arby's. But I was down to 165 in a summer. Started in May and was at weight by October. I'm not a particularly disciplined and person either. I don't think it would even register as one of the hardest things I've done. The weights hurt a few months. I dreaded the bike a few weeks as I said. I learned how to cook. You reach a point where bad foods actually taste bad to you once you get on a veggie and meat diet. Just get through that first month. It's easy.
Same! I usually don't bother with it unless it's red velvet or German chocolate, but even then I can only handle a little bit. It just doesn't do it for me. Gooey brownies though? Fresh baked chocolate chip cookies? Give me the whole pan 😂
That person is a criminal. I'm glad I found your channel. I've been struggling with my weight since forever. Since being fit, I'm now all about keeping it that way. I feel so much better without headache, mood swings, heartburns, not being able to walk and being in pain all the time. Your channel helps a lot by reminding me of a dark place I do not wish to revisit. Thank you for correcting such people.
@@asuka2467 yeah, if I'm at home I will have as big a slice as I want at the time. If I'm at a party, I have a small slice because party cakes are not infinite and if everyone wants a bigger piece then someone will get left out. At adult parties, often the person who gets left out is the host/celebrant as it's only polite to serve everyone else first.
Emily Volkar We’re not talking about me. We’re talking about her. She says she’s fine with herself. If she were happy and fine with herself she wouldn’t have to go on about it or about other peoples lives and how they live them. People who are happy with themselves don’t sit around and shame the way other people eat cake.
The fat acceptance movement found me in middle school and struggling with severe binge eating disorder. I was young and vulnerable, and indulged my binging compulsions because I truly believed it wouldn't harm me. I was so very wrong- I now have a horrible food addiction, and have risked my life with huge binges because of stomach rupture. If I had learned how to deal with these urges appropriately, it's possible I wouldn't have the daily painful struggle I have today. I'm fully tube fed and my digestive system barely functions. The idea that this movement isn't hurting anyone is so, so false.
@@maryamdear2122 I just wish that it wasn't presented as completely harmless. Its glorification of an eating disorder, and all eating disorders are harmful to your health.
Wow that’s terrible. If you’re comfortable with it you should try to get your story out there as much as you can because it’s something people need to hear. I had no idea that was even possible. Hearing about that might make someone think twice about the way they treat their body.
holy shit. Thank you so much for sharing your story. Like Nic (in the comment above me) said, I think that it could be really helpful to spread your story (if you’re comfortable with that). I had no idea that was even a possibility. I think your story is a really important one, and it could shock some people into sense.
I'm 16 and throughout my life I have gone through both ends of eating disorders. I was anorexic. Then due to the influence of activists, and alot of other factors. The idea of "eat whatever you want" got to me. To the point I began to binge on whatever food I wanted. I'm currently now in a battle, I'm seen as fatphobic and "not body positive". For simply just wanting my weight to be at a nice inbetween. And it shocks me that people will publicly claim that eating whatever the hell you want all the time, will do you any good. It's not fatphobic to want to be healthy
Lefties have been using the word "phobic" since the 1970s. Unless someone has a truly unreasonable fear of spiders, closed spaces, heights, etc., (i.e., the REAL meaning of a phobia) it's best to completely ignore the term. So much insanity from the far ends of both sides is killing us.
I hate when people claim someone is orthorexic just 'cause they are trying to improve their diet. It makes me wonder where the healthy line between the two extremes is.
Also: “Eat what you want” ... as long as it’s not vegetables. “Eat when you want” ... as long as it’s more times than normal instead of less. “Eat where you want” ... as long as it’s fast food and not healthy. “Eat how much you want” ... but give people a hard time if it’s not as much as she thinks you should be eating. (I’m not even gonna touch on the “athleticism” of the “Dancing” in the opening. Just like, come on. It’s ok to be active for activities other than eating.)
I don't think "more times than normal" is a valid argument. There is no real standard to how many times is considered normal for eating.. it's more in proportion to how much you eat. 3 meals a day is a societal construct. Many people eat once, twice, or many times a day and happen to adjust to that. My grandmother is diabetic and she can only handle eating small bits of food at a time, therefore she eats like 6 or so times a day. It may be unusual but there is nothing abnormal about it
@@ZombiGamer1679 exactly. I have actually lost weight and got my diabetes under control by eating 6 to 8 tiny meals rather than the 1 or 2 large meals a day
i'm a diabetic and i watch what I eat so I won't need insulin. I've always had issues with loving my body and my health, but once I found out what works, what doesn't and lost 15 pounds in almost 2 months I was ssooooo proud of myself. you do have to show yourself some credit and love, but not in a self destructive manner.
I might be wrong, but I suspect that what actually happens is nutrient spike as a result of the uneaten food decomposing, rather than actual over eating.
One sentence can show exactly how she thinks. “I was recently at a birthday party when a CRFI happened TO ME” A woman asked for a smaller piece of cake and this is something that “happened to her.” The question the woman asked victimized her. She thinks of this sort of thing as violence against her. How delusional
What lol!! That apart I think there should be more videos such as this on fat enabling pro-obesity influencers like Tess Holiday and Shonalee Christy Harrison Linda Bacon to create awareness on the lies they spread and their promotion of obesity. Tess holiday claims she promotes self-love and shows herself ‘working out’ aka walking but she is really advocates for obesity on her social media platforms.
you dont, these people are a lost cause, the rest of us should just use them as workout motivation and leave it at that: "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." "Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself."
As an underweight person with Crohn’s disease, cakes and chocolate causes me severe nausea and vomiting , I love sweets more than anything and I feel so proud when I say no to cake to preserve my health , I do receive a lot of comments from people saying “ oh you’re so thin you don’t need to diet “ but I do need to live pain free
Sometimes people don’t eat vegetables because they wanna be “thinner “ sometimes people just like them ! I’m Asian and in my culture our foods are predominantly vegetable based , I mainly eat miso soup , curry , sushi and pad Thai . All really good for you so don’t demonize veggies pls
Curry has to be a favourite for me, I've even tried sushi; I love sushi as well. I've even made myself rice and raw eggs since that's a Japanese breakfast dish.
I'm Asian myself and even tho I am not fond of vegetables I pretty much can't avoid it even in dishes with meat and chicken 🤣 Eat your vegetables, kids!
"People are dying out here" is my favorite thing from this. I couldn't breathe 50 lbs ago. 60 more lbs to go and I feel better and better the closer I get to healthy.
The guy that owns heart attack grill in Las Vegas said it best, he said he does what he does is because the public wants it and money speaks volumes. He was a heart surgeon in the past and now he helps people get closer to a heart attack cause he got tired.
or i find frosting too sweet and it kind of physically hurts to eat it after a few bites? so, I just want a little, because I like it, but not a whole plate, because i don't want to be wasteful?
Or me, who just doesn't like sweets that much since childhood (thus my sweet tolerance is very low). Apparently having a food preference is basically being an ally to patriarchy.
@@karendaniel450 I came to the point that I just prefer plain cakes now (fresh out of the oven) without anything added because frosting is just too nauseating. It really taste bad, I understand the need to make the cake looks good but the taste is just... no.
i just found your channel yesterday and i'm so glad i did. as someone who was quickly approaching mild obesity in my teenage years i was absolutely terrified at the prospect of letting my admittedly already out-of-control eating habits becoming...well, even _more_ out-of-control. did my decision to lose weight have to do with my appearance? of course it did--i was 15 and my hormones were goin' bonkers and i wanted girls to like me. duh. but i also knew that i was just eating like an absolute maniac. i'm sure this is going to sound like a ~fatphobic fantasy~ to some people but the moment where it really clicked for me was when i had woken up the summer after freshman year of high school and did what i always did: i grabbed a Sprite from the fridge--literally the ONLY liquids i consumed at this time in my life were Sprite and milk. Water was for when I mowed the lawn. I also grabbed one of those big $3 bags of chili cheese Fritos and sat down to play World of Warcraft. At some point while playing and on my likely third or fourth can of pop I reached into the bag only to find no Fritos left. What? I just opened it! I looked at the clock and it was 10:30am. I looked at the nutritional label on the Fritos and realized that by 10:30am I had already eaten over 2,000 calories in Fritos alone, over 100g of fat, and had already had over 40oz of soda and I was *STILL HUNGRY*. It wasn't even noon yet. I hadn't had a single piece of "real" food. It was an awful moment but one that really opened my eyes to what I was doing to myself and I didn't like what I saw. I knew a change needed to be made and I made that change and I couldn't be happier that I did.
To be fair, teenagers are just generally ravenous, that's kinda normal. I had days like that plenty of times. Comes with having to extend a body massively in a short period of time. Hell, my liquid intake was similar for a while when I was that young, though I heavily preferred milk to Sprite. Which was probably a benefit, and is possibly why my teeth and bones are so strong. There's nothing inherently wrong with not drinking pure water, either. The idea that you need to get your water in the form of straight water is a weird misconception. Other forms are fine, at least from a hydration perspective. Calorie and teeth-health-wise...that's a different story. The acid in soft drinks can really do a number on the latter, as well being high calorie.
Virgie: no one judges their own slice of cake if they're a cake judger. Hi, I'm a cake judger. I judge every cake I see for various reasons. The sweetness, the flavor combo, the sponge, the frosting. If there's buttercream, I'm gonna say it's disgusting because I absolutely hate it. Yes, I do judge my own slice of cake. I judge every slice of cake I ever had my eye on. And also I pitch cake types against each other. In Virgies eyes I'm a horrible person.....
I wonder how she'd think of me if I'm hosting anything where cake is involved, I ain't hanging round while a gaggle of idiots I barely know demand individually sized slices of cake, the cake gets sliced and divided up equally, if you feel your slice is too big, by all means don't eat all of it, if you feel your slice is too small, too bad if there is any left get a second I really don't care 😂
@@thatonechick6744 but diarrhea is so good, it means you have even more space inside you to stuff even more cake into your body, showing it love by filling it to the brim with love food. ... Oh lord, did i really write that ? That's it, no more sarcasm for me in 2020. I'm stuffed.
@@ilmatt00 you gained weight too? Awe I actually had to gain weight to be healthier ^-^ and chu beautiful either way, but if u dont feel comfortable in that weight ofc u can do what u like , but rememeber ur beautiful no matter what, health always doesn't matter weight if ur healthy go for it love, love you and chu beautiful
How is having self-control and discipline a bad thing? It's what keeps us from being mindless brutes. We don't have to bow to every whim and urge we get. Truly successful people are those that know how and when to tell themselves "no". It's not fatphobic or sexist, it's responsible.
If I didn't have control over myself, I would be in prison. Quite a common internal reaction to when someone pisses you off majorly is to think, "I could hit them". But we don't hit them because it's both rude and illegal. Basically, if we all followed all our whims and urges most people would either assault someone or be assaulted. Is it really such a bad thing to practice a little self discipline?
This is the world we live in, selfish and very individualistic people who want to succumb to every desire, every urge until they, eventually, get bored and try to find something new. And when they see a person who is the opposite and have control of themselves and are disciplined it makes them feel inadequate and therefore ashamed because they know they are wrong.
When humans feed into their first impulses and desires it never ends well. Having self discipline and self awareness is key in order to conquer potential inner demons and to really feel successful in learning how to tame those things.
@@riskybitness It's just on average but obviously you can be fit without being plant-based. But anyway I think she would highly profit from eating a little bit more fruit and veggies..
I have been forced through politeness to eat cake I didn't want BECAUSE I am vegan. People go out of their way to make another cake or make it vegan for everyone etc... so sweet and kind and unnecessary as I don't like cake... but you have to pretend when someone has been that lovely.
"Fatphobia gave me ptsd." As someone who suffers from ptsd (diagnosed officially by a psychiatrist) makes me so angry... Like ptsd can ruin a person to their core and shouldn't be thrown around so liberally its such an insult Edit: Seeing so many like this comment and the few that replied I just want to say that if you are suffering from ptsd just know you can get through this you can learn to live with this I promise you it gets easier and if you can I urge you to seek help as that was what helped me live it. You are not alone and will make it on the other side of this storm.
Feel you. I cant even aford the money to buy those things (junk food), or living a life without the consequences of my trauma. She really does not know how bad ptsd is.
The part that really got me was the fact that the insecurity DOESNT go away! There is no liberation at all. It's just trading one extreme for the next. Such an eye opening concept.
Is it so hard to believe that some people just aren't that into cake? Especially super sugary bakery cakes? I can't eat more than a few bites before I start feeling sick to my stomach. I'm not secretly dying to eat more cake.
I am a fat person, but I am healthy, because I try to eat healthy, because I wanna live till I am at least 74, so that I can eat what I want now and then. I am 26 and two years ago I started getting liver problems because I don't have a gall bladder and my liver was getting weak. I did some tests and the results scared me. So I started controlling my food and stopped drinking beer and now two years later, all my liver problems are gone. You cannot believe how proud I am. Through this control, my weight has gone down too. I remember getting menstrual problems too when I was eating with no limit. Now I get regular periods. My weight is still a little over the weight level of a 26 year old but I dont care. Its not always about losing weight to look good. For me its to help my organs!! They work really hard for me. They are me. I need to take care of myself cause noone else will. Cake won't help when I am at the hospital with serious liver problems.
That is what love your body is supposed to be! Giving it the best nourishment and care and not abusing it by eating without limit. Keep it up, proud of you
I had a different read on the cake story. It seems the woman said the slices should be smaller (i.e., the entire cake should be cut into smaller slices) and Virgie freaks out because smaller slices mean she will not get as much cake as she craves. That is, this woman was getting between Virgie and her gluttony.
That’s what I was thinking too! Maybe the woman was asking for the cake to be cut into smaller slices so there was enough for everyone, not because she was judging others for the size of their slice of cake. It’s such a strange mindset to have to immediately go to being judged.
Virgie starts the sentence with "My definition of health" and ends it with "regardless of health status". She's literally saying "My definition of health has nothing to do with health."
This gets me every time. It reminds me of a girl who got really mad in a college debate because I kept poking holes in her argument. The way you know someone doesn't have any validity with what they say is when they have to try to ignore the main point and speak "regardless of" it.
I'm a 5'11 lifelong weightlifter who has seesawed between 75kgs (very lean, six pack) to a hefty 95kgs (strong, but definitely overweight). The truth is, being overweight sucks. Clothes don't fit, you're tired all the time, you get out of breath, your stomach and hips jiggle and itch when you jump around. It's so so uncomfortable. When I'm eating clean and healthy, a normal but not lean 78-80kg, I feel better, I sleep better, I feel comfortable and secure in my clothes. It's 100x better than any pizza or fried chicken could ever taste. These foods are okay once every few weeks or once a month or holidays or special occasions. Balance.
Body Positivity = Accepting all body types and finding the beauty of all women, regardless of size Fat Acceptance = Only accepts fat people and calls any thin woman, anorexic or not, unrealistic
James H Body positivity is about loving your body regardless of size, shape, deformities etc. So it’s not that they’ve used it when it’s not for them, it’s that some people use it to excuse bad/unhealthy behaviours.
Wistymations Sure, they can be a part of the movement, but many of them are openly claiming it was created *for them*, while also often implying, that slim people have no place in it. Which is false, ironic, entitled and exclusionary.
Virgie looks older than my mother who is 20 years older than her. Also everyone has a diet, and diet culture is nowhere near as predatory as the fast food industry is.
Predatory is exactly the right word for it. They have everything down to a science, just the right combination of fat, salt and sugar, the packaging, paying supermarkets extra to position their products at the eye level of children, so on and so on.
Captain Obvious here with an observation: the "small slice" lady may have looked at the size of the cake and number of guests at the party and said hey, if everyone wants a slice, I want to be sure everyone can have one! The party was not about satisfying Vergie's whims but about celebrating a birthday and being sure everyone could participate in the food part of the celebration.
As someone who has been the cake slicing lady, I guarantee this is what happened. I don’t cut bigger pieces of cake especially if it has limited servings. If a lot of other people aren’t eating cake then I can cut another slice, but I ain’t giving you half the cake.
I'm a smaller person and get regularly hassled when I claim to be full and turn down seconds, request a small serving of dessert, leave food on my plate, etc. People really take it as a personal offense, particularly around home cooking and the "food is love" mentality.
i think the “fat” movement should be towards people who are actually trying, are kinda chubby, etc. NOT eating whatever and not caring bc “bOdy pOsitivity”
Hell, the body positive movement should be for people with acne, scars, vitiligo, false limbs, birthmarks, loose fat on their body (stomach, arms) due to a huge and sometimes rapid weight loss, people who are naturally very skinny, and very importantly, people who are naturally chubby and fat. Because of my genes, I store fat on my thighs like CRAZY! Its been like this for as long as I remember, and people have commented on it as early as fourth grade. No amount of workouts is going to prevent me from always gaining fat first and foremost on my thighs. I'm a bit bigger naturally, but I'm very healthy! The body positive movement is to celebrate healthy bodies that aren't always shown love, and to always respect each other no matter what you look like. I feel like that's truly what the body positive movement was for, but it was overrun by people like Angie.
@@amiraaboul-hosn4838 you are so right, sweetie. A lot of my friends and classmates get offended when someone calls obese people "fat people". When I ask what's wrong with that they say " it's a body positivity movement!1!!". I think body acceptance is a good thing but now it's fucked up. Even skinny people get bullied for being naturally thin.
I usually weigh around 100 kgs. I'm 1.98m so this is not bad for my height. A few months ago, I went up to 113, due to being less mobile. At just 13kgs over my normal weight, I could feel that I was lethargic. I didn't feel good. I noticed that I was less happy & cared less. I made a choice to reverse this & got down to 95. I'm now again at 100 & maintaining this. I'm now happier & don't feel as lethargic. So for me, it's about the way that I feel
A small thought I had when I heard her account of the "cake incident": Maybe the woman asking for smaller slices was concerned about the fair distribution? How many people were planned to get slices from that cake? If you get yourself 1/8th of a cake meant for 16 people, you are stealing someones slice!
The funny thing is that she mentioned how much of an imposition it was on the person cutting the cake... it takes no more effort to cut a small slice than it does a large slice.
I was totally thinking along the same lines as well . And that the lady didn't ask for a smaller piece of cake. She only told the lady cutting the cake that she was cutting the pieces to big. So what I thought and heard was maybe the host of the party or a boss or supervisor telling the person cutting the cake that they were to big. And that was because they needed to make sure they had enough for everyone. And as I said not someone even asking for a smaller piece of cake. It's really just radical femminisim disquised with 2 layers of frosting a layer of ruffeles potatochips and toped with some jolly ranchers .
@@dx1450 it's actually minutely harder to cut a bigger slice because you either have to turn the cake slightly or have to do slightly more rotation with the knife holding arm.
Her and her following are so entitled, they'd blame the party host if the cake ran out because that fatphobic B didn't get a wedding sized cake for the gluttons to devour.
Me: **doesn't like chocolate cake** Me: **is too socially anxious to turn it down at my cousins 10th birthday party and so asks for the smallest slice possible** Virgie, somehow there and also hiding behind a bush in my aunt's backyard: **hissing** PaTrIaRcHyYiEEEEEE!!!!
my son actually hates cake, he only eats it because I had some at my bday party, to be nice. but yeah, he usually just says no to most sweets, he doesn't care about how others are eating.
Any ideology that preaches “less self-control”, “don’t care”, and “do whatever you want” mentality, is going to make a person miserable. No one genuinely lives their life removed from rules and expectations, and really no one should.
Less self control is such a bad thing, i know because i struggle with it. If you don't have self control you can't do the things you WANT to do, the path to freedom is self control although that sounds contradictory you're free to do what you want and not do what you don't want to.
The idea that someone might genuinely only want a small slice of cake is just completely unimaginable to her. It really gives some insight into her completely messed up relationship with food.
It's labor for them to turn the knife like two degrees but they can turn machetes 360 degrees and swing them at vegetables and still somehow not be out of breath.
The problem with the whole “body positivity” movement is it’s usually filled with angry fat women who hate on skinny people. If you’re going to spread awareness for “beauty at all sizes” then you better accept beauty for skinny people as well.
@@michqlle1862 Basically, anyone who isn't buying into their BS and wants to live a healthy lifestyle. It hurts their tender little feeling when other people do something they are too lazy to do. Crabs in a bucket.
At the end of the day, women in general will always resort to exclusion, playground tactics when they try to get points across and "start movements" we've already seen the breakdown between men and women in society etc and this fat women vs the world thing is just another example in a long list of them. Truth hurts.
Overeating doesn't exist? Here's how overeating has affected me throughout my life: * I developed and ED called binge eating disorder * I developed an unhealthy coping mechanism based on self harming through eating things that I knew were bad for me, landing me in the hospital to the point of once even having kidney failure * Several hospitalisations due to stomach problems and gallstones that lead to my gallbladder being removed * I've had stomachaches, migraines, vomiting, diarrhea, toothache and other consequences of overeating unhealthy foods that made me be in excruciating pain * I now have high cholesterol * I'm taking medication for hypertension and at risk of stroke and heart attack * I'm at risk of developing diabetes type 2, like it happened to my mum after a lifetime of indulging in those big portions of cake * I have to follow a very strict diet to counteract all the efects of overeating unhealthy foods for decades. So no fried food cos my body can't process it, no salt, no sugar, no coffee for me... It's all well and good for these younger fat activists to accept their bodies and indulge in every craving of junk food now but they will suffer the consequences later. And they're encouraging other people to endanger their lives too! Please don't listen to them and take care of yourselves! There's nothing wrong with eating a slice of cake at a birthday, but a balance diet will make your quality of life much better. The human body is not designed to consume all this processed, addictive, harmful foods!
I’m almost 36, it took me almost 34 years to learn self control. I choose what I eat because I eat to live, not live to eat❤️(even with gastric bypass, it was/is a long journey 12 years down, forever to go)
I've gone from 300lbs to 240lbs so far, few changes to what I eat, go for a walk every day. But I was pre-diabetic and my grand pa died from diabetics so yeah time for change.
@@superfate9424 ramen noodles....the fancy ones, that was my weaknes. i started to make and can soup, take 4 days to make 12 pints but its amazing soup.
My sister is a fat activist and believes basically all the things that Virgie preaches. She talked about how shallow and misogynistic men who don’t want to date overweight women are and the evils of patriarchy. I asked if she would be willing to date an overweight guy and she said no but it was different because… …I guess patriarchy?
Well, I mean there are people(females specifically) that try to show off how cool they are ordering salad, when everyone else is eating pizza. But like, isn't that their own problem? And that doesn't mean everyone is like this - there are like 500 reasons why someone would eat less publicly and only the 501st one would have something to do with this.
@@kaoryakasaka6835 very much their own problem. We're adults, you don't get a gold star and a cookie for making what you think is the healthy choice when everyone else is just enjoying the meal (and even if we did, these women would just make a big show of refusing the sweet, anything to keep attention on them). If a person has to make a big deal about what they are, or are not, eating, it's just sad grandstanding.
I can't believe she got mad at someone for wanting a smaller piece of cake when she says people should eat as much as they want... What if they don't like chocolate cake very much?
In French, a diet to lose weight is called “régime”, and a diet as a general way of eating is called “diète”. I like this linguistic distinction. It’s a mentality healthier way of talking about the way we eat and our goals.
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If she was anorexic and promoting starvation, people would be OUTRAGED and telling her to SEEK MEDICAL INTERVENTION. Her anorexia would never be "accepted" or viewed as "body positivity".
True but Since she's fat there's nothing wrong
I think both extremes are wrong. Beauty is more then a body and her negativity makes her ugly no matter her size.
Makes me think about Eugenia Cooney...
And it shouldn't be now. As someone who has been on both spectrums i can say niether on an extreme level is good for you
i kinda doubt that. knowing how much they like to deny facts over hurting delicate feelings...
Virgie: Eat as much you want.
Person: This is how much I want to eat.
Virgie: No you're wrong. Your portion needs to match mine.
Also Virgie: Love your body, eat without shame, and live a life of respect and dignity regardless of size and health status.
Person who chooses to not eat as much sweet/salty/fried snacks, because they like how they look now and the taste of vegetables more, and not how a lot of sweet/salty/fried snacks makes them feel, and don't really like the flavour of some of them even: So we're cool?
Virgie:Omg no, why are you attacking and pushing me down like this as if you're surperiour or have some illution of grandure to prove? Get away from me! You're ruining everything!
exactly! I honestly dont like cake AT ALL, is not my dessert of choice, I hate that wet bread between the layers... So if I just said no to the cake she would take it as a personal offense?? imagine being so insecure.
@@angelinparadise7282 Yeah. She talks about enjoying food and being happy with yourself, but if she sees someone happily enjoying a smaller amount than her, suddenly her whole day is ruined? What if the person has diabetes, or a mild case of either lactose intolerance or allergies? Does she really think they should inconvinience themselves just because she needs to see more plates with more food in order for her to be happy during the hours of the event?
@@1Katakana And I think no matter the reason, it's a choice we make and nobody can police our food choice. I really believe Virgie herself feel inferior and would like to be slim, ect... And convinced herself of everything she is trying to convince other in her messages. And everything that makes her feel at least a bit insecure / uncomfortable / ect... She will label it as fatphobic and patriarcal, when ultimatly, she just feel bad to be the one that eat the most.
@@kokoro_flow She is indeed. She talkes about eating what you want, but it's clear that that only applies if what you want is all the sweet/sugary stuff that she can’t go without. She says that "Health is loving my body, eating without shame, and let every person live with dignity and respect regardless of health and size status", but it's clear that she thinks that people who eats smaller portions without shame and loves their bodies when their bodies doesn’t have the same bmi as her doesn’t deserve that and should be shamed by her. But by her own logic of eating as much as you want, she should be glad that some people chooses to have less, because that would mean more leftovers for her to stuff her face with during round 2.
@@kokoro_flow Absolutely. Firstly it's their bodies their choice, so she can mind her own buissness, and secondly, not wanting an illness or a difficult life due to medical conditions isn't fatphobic, it's I-don't-want-diabetes phobic and I-don't-want-to-make-life-more-challenging-for-me phobic, which are very reasonable things to not want/aim for, and again, she doesn't get a say/vote in this matter regarding someone elses health and their view of a good/happily satisfied life/body for them.
"eat as much as you want"
ok, i want a small piece of cake, please
They don't have enough IQ to think
ok, i don’t want any cake please
lmaoooo
Triggered
Actually, give me the entire cake. Wait, we're meant to share? Too bad. I don't believe in diet culture! No restrictions, no cake for anyone but me.
"...she dumped someone because they didn't like ruffle chips and sour watermelon candy."
Sounds like someone dodged a bullet there.
She had a partner 😨😱😱😱
I can see it now--
Him: Well, I wanted to talk about and try out different things: new movies, a day at the beach, baseball game, art gallery, walking in the park...
Friend: so, what did you guys try out or talk about?
Him: Restaurant A, Restaurant B, Bakery This, Food Truck A, Food Truck B, Ice Cream Parlor That...
Nah they dodged a whole missile there
Dodge a whole cannon ball
@IsaacMuntz Haha the Boulder that almost crushed Indiana Jones.😂
It really sounds like she wants everyone to stop controlling themselves so she can stop feeling bad about not being able to.
Exactly. There is simply NOTHING more to it.
Well ... you probably know the saying: Misery loves company.
People who suffer, sometimes want to drag down other people too.
If you're suffering, you somehow feel better when people around you also suffer. It's a weird psychological thing.
YES YES YES
Green Kid U UNCOVERED IT.
@@Gaia_Seraphina I've been there, I was that someone who tried to drag people down. I was deeply depressed, alcoholic and a teen, I went to therapy. I like to believe I don't do it anymore, mostly because I don't interact with people much. It's not that we like seeing people miserable, it's more that we hate seeing people happy. It reminds us how unhappy we are, and it's always easier to drag people down than building ourselves up.
As a recovering bulimic, I find it extremely offensive for her to say that portion control is fat-phobic. It's not fat phobic. It's health conscious.
I'm the same. Portion control is so important or I will eat too much and then the urge to throw it up is overwhelming. I'd rather just help myself by not letting myself get to that.
They unironically think portion control of any kind is akin to anorexia
they just automatically assume that portion control is only used for weight loss, when it in fact can also be used for weight gain. there’s so little focus on the opposite side of the spectrum now a days, i’m actually struggling to find healthy calorie dense foods because most meal prepping is done with the intent of loss. :/
to you guys/girls/theys,i hope your journey of being healthy goes well. virgie definitely spreads false and offensive information,either for fame,to be an asshole or another reason i can't quite say for certain.
What tips that is currently helping you?
Imagine being so privileged the worse thing that can happen to you is someone asking for a smaller slice of cake.
Exactly. That's first world problems right there.
@@myowncelestial5017 No, a first world problem is forgetting your phone charger at home.
This is a perfect utopia problem.
yeah, imagine being at someone's party and getting mad because you can't get a big slice of cake that is most likely supposed to be enough for all people.
Yes this! Imagine complaining that you can’t overeat for once and making an entire video about it, meanwhile families are starving in your own country and around that world. Talk about being a whiner. This is what I think a lot of older people think millennials are like, but most of us aren’t. The loudest ones get the most attention though.
@@AstroHierarchy its not even about her not getting a big slice... This crazy lady thinks someone else asking for a snaller slice themselfs is a bad thing somehow
1st time I saw a clip of Virgie she was in her 30's. I was shocked because I thought she was in her 50's. She's an example of how an unhealthy lifestyle ages you fast
Naaah dont be daft, she is in her fifties clearly looks like she is. Just the style choices alone and she just looks aged.
Right?
She isnt actually in her 30's is she?😳
Oh shit... Well at this time, she is 42 actually. Now looks she passed half 50's. If someone said 57 i would believe without a second thought
"I am a feminist" *proceeds to get angry about a woman's decision to not eat a piece of cake*
Not to mention overeating to the point of morbid obesity makes it harder to be mobile thus making you more likely to have to depend on others to get things done. Doesn't scream independence to me. I want to run as fast as a man and be seen as capable, I don't want to have to rely on my man to take care of my responsibilities because I am too inactive to do so.
If the genders were revered yall would be calling them an incel
Seems to be the neo-feminism…it’s not about a woman’s choices for herself, it’s about the loudest, angriest women’s choices for OTHER women. 😟
@@nobodythenobody9779 You say that like that changes something, but either way we're mocking them
@@kyrus4989 the good kind of feminism. Instead of bringing men down, bringing women up. Stay fit my friends
It really baffles me that “there’s no such thing as overeating” is a thing she said. Binge eating is a very real eating disorder. It can seriously impact your health. Some people, like myself, will eat when their bored and not hungry. I control my intake because I know that sometimes I’m not hungry, I’m stressed or bored. I can’t fathom how someone doesn’t consider that when talking about food.
Yes exactly! Virgie and other fat activists won't even address points like this - despite claiming to be scholarly intellectuals ~ they put their message/ideology above the truth and it's not right at all
Honestly same it’s appalling rlly
Comfort eating as well.
I know this, because I WAS a comfort eater. And yes it was a tough habbit to beat.
I found solace in food because other aspects of my life made me feel miserable.
But comfort eating and becoming fat certainly didn't help those other problems, it was just yet ANOTHER problem piled on the others making the others worse as well.
@@KianaDocherty I read "idiocy" for "ideology" 🤣
Same
This is like a heroin addict telling you their addiction isn’t deadly.
funny part is a controlled heroine addiction is far less dangerous, It trows some hormones out off wack a bit but it doesn't really kill you unless you keep pushing for more or get killed by fentynel
IKR lmfaooo
It's actually more like telling a heroin addict that they're a sellout if they don't shoot up.
Well said 👏👏👏
@Project Eternity back at you :P did you know in France, people who are drug dependant get regulated doses from the government and just go about their day like any other person. Most drugs aren't half as bad as people think.
The Cake story Virginie talks about is actually just about a woman saying "You're cutting the slices too thick." I've done this, and it's not because I was trying to eat less myself or police anyone else. Sometimes there's a lot of people and not a lot of cake. I remember at church, there was this one kid who loved to cut the cake, and it was always huge pieces at the start, and tiny slivers at the end, because he had no idea how to cut a regular sheet cake into enough pieces for sixty or eighty people. So you correct the person, and say "Please cut smaller pieces," just to be fair.
But Virginie wanted that big, unfair slice, I guess.
I was thinking the same thing. I think she was too focused on the cake to even notice the situation
Yeah, best to just make lines before you cut to make sure! Just keep cutting in halves until there’s enough equal pieces for all! You’re welcome, from Hints from Helouise!
I’m horrible at cutting cake. I always make some huge slices and some tiny ones. I just can’t seem to make it even no matter what. If she’s triggered by that, she needs therapyZ
@@megottamove Someone has an engineer/math background, love it!
Tbh, thin and big slices allow people to chose the quantity they want.
War starts if everyone is in the mood to eat a big slice. 😂
When she smack talks vegetables, it makes me really sad. I love chocolate and cake, but I love vegetables too. Eating plants in high quantities makes me feel good, and while I'm not obese, I'm not particularly thin either. I hate this demonization of veg :(
Because other people making healthy choices (even just from time to time) feels like an attack to her.
I KNOOW I love veg and fruits(my favorite foods are raw tomatoes and drowning vegetables in sauce) and when I tell people that they think I’m insane lmao
sometimes when i feel the need to snack when i watch something instead of eating chips or popcorn i get a big bowl of baby carrots, i love vegetables
Hey man, keep eating those veggies. Don't let some delusional girl on the internet ruin them for you
@@karkat4493 dude baby carrots are bomb as hell. Especially with a little ranch
Can't be insecure about being fat when everyone else is fat.
Yes! 😁
It’s the perfect recipe. 👌🏻
How is it an insecurity if I'm 100% sure that I'm fat?
@@voldy3565 The percentage doesn't take into account. It depends whether or not you feel bad about being fat.
When everyone's fat, no one will be.
Diabetic: "no cake for me but thank you anyways"
Virgie: "and I took that personally"
I wanted to like ur comment but its at 420 likes and I dont want to be the one to change it. I am coward.
According to her that means you are a tool of patriarchy 😂
Your diabetes is fatphobic 😂😂😂
@@keeradavis6832 you may now like the comment
Imagine how she would feel about people don't like to use any kind of sugar
Recently, after discovering I have a wheat intolerance, I started to refuse cake. I was shocked at the people around me who judged and felt the need to comment "One little piece won't hurt; You can be good tomorrow; come on, have some cake." I have a medical condition, that they are aware of, and still they want me to eat cake. No doubt to make themselves feel better about eating cake. Now, if I know there is going to be cake eating for someone's birthday at work (childcare, so it's always someone's birthday) I take my own cake (wheat free). I am still amazed that they actually managed to make me feel guilty for NOT eating cake.
A similar thing happened to me when I stopped drinking beer. 😕
Yup I dont like cake ..unless its homemade...I hate frosting so I say no thankyou...I like fruit its yummy to me but if I try to order the fruit salad everyone is like oh no treat yourself like as if im den myself? I like what im ordering mind ya bussiness people! Its not all a morality thing. Im totally indulging myself in pleasure when I am eating what I like to eat. People with diabetes do this to my mom too who has diabetes and kidney problems. Shes actually reversed her diabetes by staying off sugar. Now she can have a bit if she wants. But those people would have had her damage herself!
It's happening to me, for the same exact reason. People usually give me weird looks when I decide to eat chicken and french fries instead of a burger or pizza, but hey, if I eat that, I'll be dying with pain the next day
I have a milk protein intolerance, so pretty much the same issue here. Thankfully most people in my life understand that I just don’t want to feel sick for a bite of cake, and they leave me alone.
The only thing I hate is how some people will feel guilty for not getting/making a cake that everyone can eat. It’s not a malicious thing at all, quite the opposite, they feel bad for leaving me out, but they really shouldn’t. It’s genuinely not that important for me and I don’t like it how they feel like they did something bad or ignored a guest, it’s nothing like that at all.
I wish we all could just let go of the importance we placed on cake. I don’t mind not eating it, I don’t like it very much anyway, I don’t feel left out or ignored, there is no harm done but they still feel bad. I wish people would just shrug off me not wanting / being able to eat cake instead of making it into an issue of any kind. :/
Like, when dis it become such an important thing and why..?
@@yorguinarodriguez213 Given that I absolutely despise sandwiches or most things with too many non-homogenous ingredients, I never ate burgers (or almost any sandwich) to begin with. Those were always my preferred orders at fast food places, and I don't recall getting weird looks for it. Then again, I can be a little oblivious sometimes, and I wouldn't care much anyway, so I wouldn't have been watching for them.
I hate how people decided to turn "fat positivity" from being like "I'm not a monster for being overweight and I love myself despite what others say =)” into "healthy = pure evil"
This! So much this! You can absolutely love yourself at any size AND want to make healthier choices. It's not mutually exclusive.
Those same people are vulters.
The health at every size was actually health for every size which I can get behind.
The whole body positive movement is also stolen from people who don't have a choice to change the way they look; burn victims, amputees, etc.
I'm all for we all deserve to love ourselves but these movements are not helping anyone now.
Unfortunately, a lot of people go to extremes. I had a close friend of several years that was a very funny and sweet but terribly insecure in her skin when we met in high school. As the years passed and her food addiction worsened she became much heavier. I would always try to lift her up about herself and her looks, but it wasn't easy when she became increasingly bitter about her weight and her relationship failings. She also wasn't an honest person. She would literally catfish guys online and then react terribly when they wouldn't go on a second date. As if it was all their fault for being lied to. She would praise lies paraded as facts by Tess and the like while simultaneously calling herself a disgusting whale no one will love. She refused every attempt to go on walks together to lose weight as a team but found a way to turn every conversation into her own misery and really developed a love hate relationship with men. Wanting them to want her, and making comments like how all men are weak and can't handle real women - while sitting right in front of my husband who's a wonderful person. I am all for loving the skin you're in. I'm 5'5", just barely under 200 pounds but have been heavier. I won't give up ice cream, but I also make sure to enjoy a varied diet that included fruits and vegetables. I don't go to the gym but I have a physically active job and go on walks. I try to maintain balance and to take care of myself and while my weight loss has been gradual I don't regain what I lose like so many of these "fat" UA-camrs claim. But when it comes to the very obese, I've yet to see a personal example that isn't dominated by refusal to accept blame and self loathing.
I know. Health isn't actually the problem; diet culture caused by beuty stereotypes is...
@@NeonCherryBlossum less SJW and more “If I can’t succeed I’ll manipulate others to fail with me”
I like how she doesn't want anyone to criticize her eating habits, yet she freaks out every time somebody gets a small slice of cake
She wants to have her cake and eat it too
@@alyssapinon9670 and ours
and theirs
and that little kid in the corner
Tbf she probably wanted the small slice of cake... And the rest of the bakery shop.
“When you’re rich enough and have so few things to do, you just start inventing things to be upset about” - Some guy in a comment chain somewhere
I'm picturing her giving a lecture to someone with food allergies about how sexist they are for turning down food.
As an overweight woman trying to regain my health, Virgie inspires me to exercise and put down the cookies because she seems so mean, angry and unhappy that I want to actively try to be less like her. Lol. Probably the opposite of what she is going for
As someone who works out like 6 days a week, I feel like if you are, as you put it, trying to regain your health, you aren’t really ‘fat’, as you are doing everything in your power to lose weight. It is therefore unfair to wholly characterize you as fat as long as you keep exercising and practicing moderation. Keep it up! You got this!
@@thetommyboi1796 thank you so much! I am technically obese, but I used to be really athletic, so I am watching what I eat and starting with gentle exercise like walking, swimming and yoga because I am worried that my heavy body would put too much pressure on my joints if I did anything too difficult to start out with. There are a lot of diabetics in my family and I don't want to become one, and it kinda scared me to see obesity being pushed as healthy when I know first hand how it feels to be obese vs. how I felt when I was athletic and I know the long-term effects second hand from watching my diabetic family members. The HAES philosophy is terrifying and discouraging to those of us who are not in denial about our problem and looking to fix it.
But yeah, I also tend to be my harshest critic by a mile.
I support you in your journey God speed soilder!
Just don't fall into extremes. Nikocado Avocado vs Eugenia Clooney. Obesity vs anorexia.
Controlling how much you eat is a sign you are a reasonable person.
Yep, I feel we're becoming a national resource at this point. (People who still practice personal responsibility.)
She’s actually insecure as hell, which is why she wants more people to get fat, so she won’t have to be.
Agree 100%. She doesn't have the willpower, so she just wants everyone to be like her. If she could take a magic pill tomorrow, and lose all the extra weight, you know she would.
Absolutely right! She's fat and she's ugly. I'm not judging, I am just describing what I see.
Agree! If she influences a group of people, she'll feel less alone and likely less shamed for her own bad habits.
10.000 IQ play
@@OnilMarteNavarroza 100%
The bit about vegetables was seriously weird and uncomfortable. No one hates vegetables that much except small children. I've struggled with my weight my entire life, although I'm a healthy weight now, and I have always loved all sorts of vegetables. Eating them isn't a gross health-obsessed chore.
She equates eating vegetables to submitting to patriarchy. That's so freakin' childish. Basically everything that she doesn't likes = patriarchy. People around the world eat vegetables with their every meal Virgie.
I love vegetables really. Almost every evening I make myself this salad out of fresh cucumbers and tomatoes and greens and it is very tasty
For the longest time I thought I hated vegetables. Turns out, I just hated the way my mom cooked vegetables. Broccoli tastes great when it's not mushy.
these "fat activists" only eat heavy calorie foods that provide no health benefits whatsoever. being as someone who loves to cook healthy meals, they really can't accept that healthy meals CAN be really really delicious as well
I love veggies but I hate salads
Wait until she finds out that part of eating how much you want, includes people asking for less cake.
She already knows. She’s just an attention-starved psychopath.
😮
😮 NO!? Say it ain't so!?!?
That would require her to consider opinions outside of her own
This is what I came to the comments to post but you said it better
binge eater/bulimic: could you please give me the whole cake? and bake another 2 just for me?
virgie: yas queen, eat how much you'd like! there are no long term consequences to your relationship with food!!!
Does Virgie literally realize she's trying to control other women, what they eat, and the things they do with their bodies?
Her hypocrisy completely misses her. That’s what’s tragic and infuriating.
I think she's a troll, in every sense of the word.
Exactly. Instead of truly trying to dismantle the patriarchy and calling out the larger societal and systemic issues she just directs her petty rage at other women for having autonomy and self control over their bodies.
I'm pretty sure she mentally ill at this point
These replies are dumb. She’s telling you being overweight is unhealthy and all the medical evidence supports this. Wake up!!!!
virgie: eat what you want
me: ok *eats vegetables*
virgie: NO NOT LIKE THAT
But I want to eat a bowl of green beans with garlic as a snack...
@@axolotlsgonewild virgie: a bowl of what?...
Sounds like a progressive movement to me!😂
Virgie: eat as much as you want
Me: ok. I want a small slice of cake
Virgie: NO NOT LIKE THAT
@@appleid7758 😂
This woman is SO INFURIATING! She makes her living (probably much much more than I make) by spewing enabling language and false information. Her followers just want their unwillingness to say no to themselves to be validated. Disgusting
Don’t worry, with her lifestyle she isn’t to able to spend her money wisely, only on shit fast food and torrid 😂🤫
Daria Luna -cough- ALR
just wait till diabetes happen or whatever else happens, wonder who she'll blame then, her bad life choices or the food she eats
Uncanny Cancer watch, she’s gonna blame genetics because of course notHinG cAn bE hEr fAuLt
@@livepolice7142 lol probably already does
As a male nurse who worked within a female dominant environment: no prisoners are taken when it comes to cake.
It's the same in telephone call centres. You can also substitute cake with chocolate.
This is a bit true. My problem was that I couldn't walk past chocolate until about 3 years ago.....then I had a test for Hba1c...........now I keep walking 80% of the time, buuuuuut.....sometimes it's hard😂
I am not American so I'm konda confused. Is it a regular occurrence to have cake at work? Where I live we have breaks but with black coffee or tea.
@@mimiveggie8653At my old work, if someone has a birthday, they bring cake. Everyone gorges on it during morning tea break. (Australia)
Similarly I wanna just sit her down and say “girl i wear a size seven shoe and weigh 300 lbs. i’m not dieting because im a victim of the patriarchy, my feet just fucking hurt. Its not that deep.”
I’m glad you are taking care of yourself x
Omg yes this!
I love your comment
Proud of you 🥰
So true. Weight loss relieved lots of pressure off my feet and joints and I feel so much better really. Good on you 😌
Yeah. I really like to be able to fit in regular chairs. To get up off the floor by myself. To fit in a regular bathtub. To chase my kids and (occasionally) catch them. For that, I'm willing to turn down cake sometimes.
To be able to tie your shoes without passing out...
You monster!😂 I bet you like tying your own shoe laces too😂
I’m even crazier cuz I like bathing without assistance
I completely understand about wanting to fit into regular size chairs. We have several chairs at my home that have the sides up so you have to be a particular size to sit in them comfortably, and for the longest time I wasn't able to sit in them comfortably. My thighs would press up against the sides, and it would be massively uncomfortable. I felt so ashamed that I had let myself get that big.
I had gained a lot of weight because my mom passed away in 2019, and I have always struggled with my weight. I've been up before and I've been down. My highest weight has been 267, and my lowest weight has been 199. And I have a huge list of family history and personal weight related issues. But last month, I decided I had had enough, and I'm currently working my way to 170 lb. I'm very proud to say that I've lost a good bit of weight (14 pounds) and can now fit in regular size chairs. I legitimately cried.
Really sorry for the long reply, but I felt like sharing.
@EasternSharqii I promise that I will do my very best. Thank you so much for your encouragement.
@@lunabearsong2043 keep up the good work, love hearing about people’s progress😁😁❤️❤️❤️❤️💯💯
Its like Virgie is all about body positivity until someone is skinny..
i feel like if she saw what i eat in a day she would strangle me
@@illusionist1244 same here. I’m not particularly skinny, but I don’t eat a lot
I've struggles with weight for years vant keep it on me for nothing many years ago in 2004 a friend git murders and its stressed me out that much I went form 11st 12oz to just under 7 stone it took me till 2011 to get back to ten stone and that's where I'm at still to this day go up to 10st 7lb and back down like a yoyo again I'm so contous about it and feel like I look anorexic even though I'm not the docs tell me I'm at a good weight but always getting comments and I hate it I would never dream of telling a bigger person fuck me you put on timber on so why do they feel the need to tell me I've lost weight can't stand it.. I would love to out on weight but they lady in question is putting some dangerous material yes be happy with your size but be contous of the aftermath don't throw it out there that you are fat shaming just because you want a smaller peice of cake then them that's fucked
They’re hypocrites!
I’ve seen a group of them insult a “small fat” because she mentioned wanting to lose weight.
Small fat= someone who is overweight but can still fit in regular chairs and even buy clothes from some places.
I meant positive towards **my** body, not yours.
This is no joke the best form of pre-workout that exists…
DUDE! how does this only have two likes 😂 madly underrated comment
true i was watching this at the gym🤣
I was so sore these last few days I couldn't workout anymore. I'm trying to not jump into my car and rush to the gym. 😂
Oh my goodness yes! I am in bed right now, sick, and it's almost midnight, but I want to get up and start doing a mini workout right now, she has me so scared of my size and that I will eventually look like her if I don't lose the weight. Maybe it's my old ED coming up but people like her scare me sometimes.
I actually listen to her videos while doing cardio now 😂
I’m sorry, are you telling me this woman wrote a whole article just because she overheard somebody ask for a smaller slice of cake? How egocentric is she?
you are starting to sound very ego-phobic
@@360.Tapestry you are starting to sound essinophobic. Maybe i dont want a big piece of cake and its not because im worried about my image. Its honestly not that complicated
@@pajamas720 sarcasm lol
@@Clementine3107 no, ive seen other comments this guy made, he might not be joking.
@@pajamas720 context
Her definition of health had the phrase 'regardless of health' in it. Incredible
Thats the lifestyle of most people though, "regardless of health"
The only people it doesnt apply to are health nuts
"I Define a reliable car as one that I can get without any cost to me regardless of its reliability."
Acute observation my good Sir
She's like that one nasty fat old lady that skinny shames everyone for looking better than her.
@Cristo Alba you're describing actions, i'm describing intentions
I have been fat my entire life, I was literally born an overweight baby. My weight has been an insecurity of mine since childhood. The body positivity movement has helped a lot with my self acceptance and love, and made me want to focus solely on health and not appearance. But this fat activism, the glamorization of junk food, the disregard for physical health (or changing what “health” means) and basically saying that fat women are superior, it made me not even want to try to get healthy anymore.
It’s the difference between self love (actually taking care of yourself) and self indulgence. Your videos are helping me realize that and now I want to get healthier again. Thank you for these excellent videos!
I didn't know you could be born overweight, that's interesting. Do you happen to know if it happens due to medical reasons or if it's just a case of a baby having a lot of baby fat?
thats whats up to recognize that within yourself, i agree with your assessment
Being an overweight baby doesn't make you heavier now. I know overweight babies that are bean poles. Don't get caught up in excuses as to why you're heavier, you can get healthier no matter what just stay focused and consistent.
@@nativepredator8803 Nah some people genetically have predispositions to weight gain, such as having metabolisms so low that they would need to workout insane hours just to burn through a low number of calories. Its not impossible to lose that weight, its just more of an uphill battle than someone who eats like shit and has a high metabolism. A child with a low metabolism, especially in a family uneducated on matters of health can’t really choose their eating habits and exercise until a much older age. Like I agree with you, but some people are sometimes screwed from the get go with metabolic problems, and other health concerns.
Overweight people will nearly allways develop joint issues at some point - so even though appearance alone may not be the focus, being slimmer is allways benefitial.
As I recover from my binge eating disorder, I feel like while "fat positive" or HAES activists are starting in the right direction by recognizing their relationship with food should be healed, they only ever seem to get halfway. Healing your relationship with food is so much more than removing the stigma away from eating "bad" foods, but their insecurity and difficult pasts with food keep them from truly listening when they're criticized. Thank you for your thoughtful video
I learned to love my fat body, but my knees are giving out, my mobility is decreasing, and I'm in constant pain. I love myself enough to begin to lose the weight that's affecting my health. I don't see a contradiction between self-acceptance and improving my health.
If you wanna loose weight for your health I suggest keto. I have lost so much weight and feel so much happier now. I can do more activities and have more endurance
full send! I lost like 80 lbs and I've got like 5 more lbs to go, it's well worth it! Keep goin!
Good luck! And, don't be afraid to try out different kinds of weight loss methods if one doesn't work. Sometimes all you need to do is cut calories and go for a run ~5 days a week, but for others something like keto is perfect! Try not to lose motivation if you have a bad week or two, and keep at it! We're all rooting for you, even if we're all just a bunch of strangers on the internet.
wishing you the best of luck on your journey!
I was always athletic on build whatever that means. But hit 30 or so and went from 165 to 220. It's not just the aesthetic of being thin. I ran out of breath very quick. Hard time even walking. Couldn't play sports. The amount of things made more difficult by an extra 55 lbs of visceral fat is seemingly unending. I couldn't even do more than four pushups. Never again. But I lost the weight by lifting six days a week, cycling in the gym for an hour which was only hard for a week or two. You get use to it and enjoy it rather quick. I also walked to the gym about a mile. Tried to walk anything less than 2.5 miles. Took steps as well if under five flights. Most important I think though was reducing sugar intake to below 8 grams a day and cutting out bread. I had a Sunday treat day where I'd maybe take a trip to Arby's. But I was down to 165 in a summer. Started in May and was at weight by October. I'm not a particularly disciplined and person either. I don't think it would even register as one of the hardest things I've done. The weights hurt a few months. I dreaded the bike a few weeks as I said. I learned how to cook. You reach a point where bad foods actually taste bad to you once you get on a veggie and meat diet. Just get through that first month. It's easy.
I straight up just don’t care for cake. Didn’t know that made me an asshole and a pawn of the patriarchy
LOL
HOW COULD YOU !!! no but really cake ain't it 🤣
@@honeyrose1384 RIGHT I would rather spend my time and money on any other dessert than CAKE it's ain't even that good lol 😂 😂 😂 ☺
Same! I usually don't bother with it unless it's red velvet or German chocolate, but even then I can only handle a little bit. It just doesn't do it for me. Gooey brownies though? Fresh baked chocolate chip cookies? Give me the whole pan 😂
@@courtneyd4794 the only cake I like is cheesecake or DQ ice cream cakes.
Lol, just wait until she finds out that some people don’t even like cake.
I got invited to many b-days but didn't eat cake cause I hate it lmaoo
@@two6646 same,that or I ask for a different dessert like flan or cheesecake its a type of pie technically speaking)
It’s gross
@@two6646 Same
I can't eat cake because i hate simple sugars and can't handle the sweetness because it hurts my brain.
That person is a criminal. I'm glad I found your channel. I've been struggling with my weight since forever. Since being fit, I'm now all about keeping it that way. I feel so much better without headache, mood swings, heartburns, not being able to walk and being in pain all the time. Your channel helps a lot by reminding me of a dark place I do not wish to revisit. Thank you for correcting such people.
Omg the heartburn right? I thought I just had to live like that turns out it was the trash food I was eating making me feel horrible
9:02 this poor woman was probably just making sure that everyone at the party would be able to get a piece of cake
it's not all about you, sis
Isn't it funny how she describes smelling the cake and knowing what it's made of?
This was what I was thinking. Big party + small cake= small pieces
Virgie didn't even consider that possibility, probably because it involved thinking about someone other than Virgie.
exactly, i eat smaller pieces at parties especially if the cake is small to leave some for others lol
@@asuka2467 yeah, if I'm at home I will have as big a slice as I want at the time. If I'm at a party, I have a small slice because party cakes are not infinite and if everyone wants a bigger piece then someone will get left out. At adult parties, often the person who gets left out is the host/celebrant as it's only polite to serve everyone else first.
If she were fine with herself, her body, and her behaviors, she would not be so concerned about how other people live their lives.
Yes!
Emily Volkar We’re not talking about me. We’re talking about her. She says she’s fine with herself. If she were happy and fine with herself she wouldn’t have to go on about it or about other peoples lives and how they live them. People who are happy with themselves don’t sit around and shame the way other people eat cake.
Facts
The fat acceptance movement found me in middle school and struggling with severe binge eating disorder. I was young and vulnerable, and indulged my binging compulsions because I truly believed it wouldn't harm me. I was so very wrong- I now have a horrible food addiction, and have risked my life with huge binges because of stomach rupture. If I had learned how to deal with these urges appropriately, it's possible I wouldn't have the daily painful struggle I have today. I'm fully tube fed and my digestive system barely functions. The idea that this movement isn't hurting anyone is so, so false.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
I'm so, so sorry that this movement led to that
@@maryamdear2122 I just wish that it wasn't presented as completely harmless. Its glorification of an eating disorder, and all eating disorders are harmful to your health.
Wow that’s terrible. If you’re comfortable with it you should try to get your story out there as much as you can because it’s something people need to hear. I had no idea that was even possible. Hearing about that might make someone think twice about the way they treat their body.
holy shit. Thank you so much for sharing your story. Like Nic (in the comment above me) said, I think that it could be really helpful to spread your story (if you’re comfortable with that). I had no idea that was even a possibility. I think your story is a really important one, and it could shock some people into sense.
I'm 16 and throughout my life I have gone through both ends of eating disorders. I was anorexic. Then due to the influence of activists, and alot of other factors. The idea of "eat whatever you want" got to me. To the point I began to binge on whatever food I wanted. I'm currently now in a battle, I'm seen as fatphobic and "not body positive". For simply just wanting my weight to be at a nice inbetween. And it shocks me that people will publicly claim that eating whatever the hell you want all the time, will do you any good. It's not fatphobic to want to be healthy
Be strong! ED are hard to defeat, but you can do it. You already have the right mind 💪
Lefties have been using the word "phobic" since the 1970s. Unless someone has a truly unreasonable fear of spiders, closed spaces, heights, etc., (i.e., the REAL meaning of a phobia) it's best to completely ignore the term. So much insanity from the far ends of both sides is killing us.
I hate when people claim someone is orthorexic just 'cause they are trying to improve their diet. It makes me wonder where the healthy line between the two extremes is.
Me: **asks for a small piece of cake because I’m not that hungry**
Vergie: Listen here you little fatphobic-
Icey Limeade I always have a small piece of cake because I can’t handle super sweet things lol
Radish UwU sometimes when I eat sugar I can feel my teeth burning
I ate cake just for the taste and not to fill up my stomach.
*me asked for a small piece because I don't like cake and too polite to say no*
"You're being sexiest"
I don't know why but this made me laugh so hard all of the sudden!! thank you!!
Also:
“Eat what you want” ... as long as it’s not vegetables.
“Eat when you want” ... as long as it’s more times than normal instead of less.
“Eat where you want” ... as long as it’s fast food and not healthy.
“Eat how much you want” ... but give people a hard time if it’s not as much as she thinks you should be eating.
(I’m not even gonna touch on the “athleticism” of the “Dancing” in the opening. Just like, come on. It’s ok to be active for activities other than eating.)
I don't think "more times than normal" is a valid argument. There is no real standard to how many times is considered normal for eating.. it's more in proportion to how much you eat. 3 meals a day is a societal construct. Many people eat once, twice, or many times a day and happen to adjust to that.
My grandmother is diabetic and she can only handle eating small bits of food at a time, therefore she eats like 6 or so times a day. It may be unusual but there is nothing abnormal about it
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others. :P
@@ZombiGamer1679 exactly. I have actually lost weight and got my diabetes under control by eating 6 to 8 tiny meals rather than the 1 or 2 large meals a day
factssss yo
Her excuse is if you choose to eat less you are a product of fatphobic and probably need awakening through her posts
She literally defined "health" as how you feel "regardless of health status"
Right?? The illogic and contradiction is head-spinning.
the jokes write themselves
🙈
@Don K she looks like edna
That's the first thing that stood out to me. Health regardless of health.
i'm a diabetic and i watch what I eat so I won't need insulin. I've always had issues with loving my body and my health, but once I found out what works, what doesn't and lost 15 pounds in almost 2 months I was ssooooo proud of myself. you do have to show yourself some credit and love, but not in a self destructive manner.
The most common cause of death for pet goldfish actually is over-feeding.
I can relate unu
where'd you get this statistic lol... sorry I'm just triggered bc as a goldfish enthusiast thats not even on the top 10 list
I'm pretty sure this is why I couldn't keep any of my fish alive as a child/pre-teen. I thought I was being nice with the extra portions.
@@1stMarDiv4341 that and many other reasons no doubt. People should stop getting fish when they dont know how to keep it.
I might be wrong, but I suspect that what actually happens is nutrient spike as a result of the uneaten food decomposing, rather than actual over eating.
One sentence can show exactly how she thinks. “I was recently at a birthday party when a CRFI happened TO ME”
A woman asked for a smaller piece of cake and this is something that “happened to her.” The question the woman asked victimized her. She thinks of this sort of thing as violence against her. How delusional
She suffers from egocentrism.
But she claims to be so strong and fierce...
@@TheSBleeder If she were really strong then she wouldn't get upset over other people's dietary choices.
@@dx1450 I don't know about suffers, she seems to kind of enjoy it
At the end she also talks about people "committing a CRFI" like it's a crime to ask for how much food you want
how the hell does one explain to these psychotic women that vegetables aren't sexist?
I guess carrots are too phallic for poor Virgie
I'm too sober for that question...
What lol!! That apart I think there should be more videos such as this on fat enabling pro-obesity influencers like Tess Holiday and Shonalee Christy Harrison Linda Bacon to create awareness on the lies they spread and their promotion of obesity. Tess holiday claims she promotes self-love and shows herself ‘working out’ aka walking but she is really advocates for obesity on her social media platforms.
you dont, these people are a lost cause, the rest of us should just use them as workout motivation and leave it at that: "You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." "Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself."
Depends on what she does with her cucumbers
Virgie: “Eat how much you want!”
Also Virgie: “How dare you ask for a smaller piece of cake?” Uhhhhh. My brain hurts.
As an underweight person with Crohn’s disease, cakes and chocolate causes me severe nausea and vomiting , I love sweets more than anything and I feel so proud when I say no to cake to preserve my health , I do receive a lot of comments from people saying “ oh you’re so thin you don’t need to diet “ but I do need to live pain free
i don’t have crohns but i have IBS and if i eat too much of certain things i get stomach pain so i agree
Hope u feel better
Stay strong 💪🏻♥️
I hope you get well soon!
Feel better 💞
Virgie: EAT THE CAKE
Me: please...my egg allergy-
Virgie: P A T R I A R C H Y
Why are you so fat phobic why
S/
v e g e t a b l e s a r e e v i l
- Virgie Tovar
LOL!
virgie: EAT THIS FUCKING CAKE
me: im lactose intoler- _gets cake shoved down throat_
Omg 🤣😂
Sometimes people don’t eat vegetables because they wanna be “thinner “ sometimes people just like them ! I’m Asian and in my culture our foods are predominantly vegetable based , I mainly eat miso soup , curry , sushi and pad Thai . All really good for you so don’t demonize veggies pls
Curry has to be a favourite for me, I've even tried sushi; I love sushi as well. I've even made myself rice and raw eggs since that's a Japanese breakfast dish.
I'm Asian myself and even tho I am not fond of vegetables I pretty much can't avoid it even in dishes with meat and chicken 🤣 Eat your vegetables, kids!
@@reelan1036 yeah ! They are good for you so they are pretty easy to ignore
yea i like vegetables they’re not that bad and i like sushi too 🤔
As an Asian i agree with you. Using her logic of "Eat what you want", then i want some kailan vegetables, yummy.
"People are dying out here" is my favorite thing from this. I couldn't breathe 50 lbs ago. 60 more lbs to go and I feel better and better the closer I get to healthy.
Imagine an alcoholic doing this shit.
not gonna lie
You know someone with this kind of content?
Underrated comment!
100% her whole thing here boils down to 'You're no fun anymore'
@Alessandra Gabbana I doubt that tbh. Where I'm from they're seen as troublemakers and someone who kids shouldn't grow up to be...
The guy that owns heart attack grill in Las Vegas said it best, he said he does what he does is because the public wants it and money speaks volumes. He was a heart surgeon in the past and now he helps people get closer to a heart attack cause he got tired.
"If you ask for a smaller slice of cake, you're fatphobic!"
Me, literally just full:
or i find frosting too sweet and it kind of physically hurts to eat it after a few bites? so, I just want a little, because I like it, but not a whole plate, because i don't want to be wasteful?
Or me, who just doesn't like sweets that much since childhood (thus my sweet tolerance is very low). Apparently having a food preference is basically being an ally to patriarchy.
And frosting is literally so sweet that it's hard to have a big slice
@@elaynarice7389 omg the frosting. You can tell just by looking at that cake it's only sugar. It's not even a diet thing, that just tastes bad.
@@karendaniel450 I came to the point that I just prefer plain cakes now (fresh out of the oven) without anything added because frosting is just too nauseating. It really taste bad, I understand the need to make the cake looks good but the taste is just... no.
Cake Lady: "Can I please have a smaller slice?"
V:"Patriarchy much?"
CL: "I'm diabetic."
Diabetes is fat phobic
Death is fat phobic
someone tell death he's cancelled
@@ScorpioXVirgo
Ugh, dude! Death as a he? It's obviously a she! *dramatic eyeroll*
@@kolibrispacestation you have an interesting point. Every peronification of death I've read in fiction has been a guy
@@kolibrispacestation Idk, if god is a woman, death is a guy, ain't he?
unless...
@@baraness24 In my language death is a she. Never occurred to me it could be a guy 0_0
i just found your channel yesterday and i'm so glad i did. as someone who was quickly approaching mild obesity in my teenage years i was absolutely terrified at the prospect of letting my admittedly already out-of-control eating habits becoming...well, even _more_ out-of-control. did my decision to lose weight have to do with my appearance? of course it did--i was 15 and my hormones were goin' bonkers and i wanted girls to like me. duh. but i also knew that i was just eating like an absolute maniac.
i'm sure this is going to sound like a ~fatphobic fantasy~ to some people but the moment where it really clicked for me was when i had woken up the summer after freshman year of high school and did what i always did: i grabbed a Sprite from the fridge--literally the ONLY liquids i consumed at this time in my life were Sprite and milk. Water was for when I mowed the lawn. I also grabbed one of those big $3 bags of chili cheese Fritos and sat down to play World of Warcraft. At some point while playing and on my likely third or fourth can of pop I reached into the bag only to find no Fritos left. What? I just opened it! I looked at the clock and it was 10:30am. I looked at the nutritional label on the Fritos and realized that by 10:30am I had already eaten over 2,000 calories in Fritos alone, over 100g of fat, and had already had over 40oz of soda and I was *STILL HUNGRY*. It wasn't even noon yet. I hadn't had a single piece of "real" food.
It was an awful moment but one that really opened my eyes to what I was doing to myself and I didn't like what I saw. I knew a change needed to be made and I made that change and I couldn't be happier that I did.
To be fair, teenagers are just generally ravenous, that's kinda normal. I had days like that plenty of times. Comes with having to extend a body massively in a short period of time. Hell, my liquid intake was similar for a while when I was that young, though I heavily preferred milk to Sprite. Which was probably a benefit, and is possibly why my teeth and bones are so strong.
There's nothing inherently wrong with not drinking pure water, either. The idea that you need to get your water in the form of straight water is a weird misconception. Other forms are fine, at least from a hydration perspective. Calorie and teeth-health-wise...that's a different story. The acid in soft drinks can really do a number on the latter, as well being high calorie.
Smoked veggies are literally to DIE FOR. A sheet of onions, broccoli, carrots, and cauliflower smoked with some garlic salt is sooooo delicious.
if youve never devoured a plate of roasted vegetables PLEASE DO IT ITS AMAZING
@@karkat4493
YESSS! Like I can eat an entire tray of roasted cauliflower or roasted brussel sprouts! They’re soooo good
@@mosscoveredfrog155 i love roasted broccoli
Same roasted broccoli is the good stuff
REEEEEEEEEEEEE! That's just the internalized sexism talking 🤪
Overeating is self-harm, you don't do it when you're happy... I turn to junk food whenever I feel like shit...
THIS.
When I feel a hole in my body, I try to fill it with food.
Same
Same (or when I get done with soccer practice)
for me its all the time, regardless how I feel.
@@thetree9399 Actually it’s the same for me... Maybe you’re not happy in general, even though you feel good sometimes...
It’s not about being fat, it’s about being healthy and loving your body enough to take care of yourself!
Sarah Plummer Yessss!!!!!!!
U can be chubby and healthy but not fat and healthy x
well said
even under eating can lead to obesity! A disorder is a disorder, get some help. period
Totally agree.Loving yourself is also about self respect.When u respect your body then u should do something about the high fat percentage you have.
Virgie: no one judges their own slice of cake if they're a cake judger.
Hi, I'm a cake judger. I judge every cake I see for various reasons. The sweetness, the flavor combo, the sponge, the frosting. If there's buttercream, I'm gonna say it's disgusting because I absolutely hate it. Yes, I do judge my own slice of cake. I judge every slice of cake I ever had my eye on. And also I pitch cake types against each other. In Virgies eyes I'm a horrible person.....
I wonder how she'd think of me if I'm hosting anything where cake is involved, I ain't hanging round while a gaggle of idiots I barely know demand individually sized slices of cake, the cake gets sliced and divided up equally, if you feel your slice is too big, by all means don't eat all of it, if you feel your slice is too small, too bad if there is any left get a second I really don't care 😂
@@cptsteele91 ahahahha same here lol. I like cutting the cake perfectly
Me with celiac disease : "no cake for me thank you."
Virgie: "patriarchy."
How dare you not want diarrhea!
@@MuttFitness lol. I know. It's just my internalized misogyny.
@@MuttFitness Yeah how dare you not want to damage the inner lining of your small intestines.
@@thatonechick6744 but diarrhea is so good, it means you have even more space inside you to stuff even more cake into your body, showing it love by filling it to the brim with love food.
...
Oh lord, did i really write that ? That's it, no more sarcasm for me in 2020. I'm stuffed.
I'm there with you.
What these people fail to understand is that there is one hell of a difference between being 5-10 lbs overweight and 100 lbs overweight.
Hell i was 24 lbs overweight and i felt at my absolute worst. I would always feel sweaty, itchy and uncomfortable and i got tired very easily.
@@examichelle literally me as I started gaining weight during quarentine :( definitely working on it as best as I currently can
@@ilmatt00 I never want to be that person who cried in the fitting rooms feeling miserable, ever again.
@@ilmatt00 you gained weight too? Awe I actually had to gain weight to be healthier ^-^ and chu beautiful either way, but if u dont feel comfortable in that weight ofc u can do what u like , but rememeber ur beautiful no matter what, health always doesn't matter weight if ur healthy go for it love, love you and chu beautiful
How is having self-control and discipline a bad thing? It's what keeps us from being mindless brutes. We don't have to bow to every whim and urge we get. Truly successful people are those that know how and when to tell themselves "no". It's not fatphobic or sexist, it's responsible.
She has no self control so she hates anyone who does.
If I didn't have control over myself, I would be in prison. Quite a common internal reaction to when someone pisses you off majorly is to think, "I could hit them". But we don't hit them because it's both rude and illegal. Basically, if we all followed all our whims and urges most people would either assault someone or be assaulted. Is it really such a bad thing to practice a little self discipline?
This is the world we live in, selfish and very individualistic people who want to succumb to every desire, every urge until they, eventually, get bored and try to find something new. And when they see a person who is the opposite and have control of themselves and are disciplined it makes them feel inadequate and therefore ashamed because they know they are wrong.
👌exactly!
When humans feed into their first impulses and desires it never ends well. Having self discipline and self awareness is key in order to conquer potential inner demons and to really feel successful in learning how to tame those things.
🙌🙏
“Sorry I can’t eat cake. I’m vegan”
“fATpHObIC”
@@riskybitness Yeah, maybe because we are the only 'diet' group that is on average within a normal BMI^^
@@riskybitness It's just on average but obviously you can be fit without being plant-based. But anyway I think she would highly profit from eating a little bit more fruit and veggies..
Uhmm, vegan cake? 😂
Vegan cake yo!
I have been forced through politeness to eat cake I didn't want BECAUSE I am vegan. People go out of their way to make another cake or make it vegan for everyone etc... so sweet and kind and unnecessary as I don't like cake... but you have to pretend when someone has been that lovely.
A really good reason to cut small slices of cake at a birthday party is to make sure that there are enough slices for everyone to get one.
fr they literally said it was an expensive cake so i assume it wasn’t very large, pricy cakes are usually on the smaller side
Exactly, you get a small taste not an entire second meal.
Get a bigger cake your cheap phatphobic bigot😆
@@elizabethfigueroa6811a piece of cake is not “an entire second meal.”
Exactly
"Fatphobia gave me ptsd." As someone who suffers from ptsd (diagnosed officially by a psychiatrist) makes me so angry... Like ptsd can ruin a person to their core and shouldn't be thrown around so liberally its such an insult
Edit: Seeing so many like this comment and the few that replied I just want to say that if you are suffering from ptsd just know you can get through this you can learn to live with this I promise you it gets easier and if you can I urge you to seek help as that was what helped me live it. You are not alone and will make it on the other side of this storm.
Feel you. I cant even aford the money to buy those things (junk food), or living a life without the consequences of my trauma. She really does not know how bad ptsd is.
@Samuel Duchesne DAUMN SON!!!!
I was looking for a comment about this. It made me angry too.
I was writing a similar comment then I saw yours. It makes me incredibly mad too. I doubt she has ever really experienced what its like to have ptsd.
@Samuel Duchesne ouch
The part that really got me was the fact that the insecurity DOESNT go away! There is no liberation at all. It's just trading one extreme for the next. Such an eye opening concept.
Is it so hard to believe that some people just aren't that into cake? Especially super sugary bakery cakes? I can't eat more than a few bites before I start feeling sick to my stomach. I'm not secretly dying to eat more cake.
EXACTLYY
@@greengypsybird2680 then you'd love filipino culture of celebrations always being paired with either macaroni and spaghetti or both
@J D I envy you but feel you. Savoury is meh for me but Omg sweet is just amazing. I'll give you my main if you give me your desert?
I am one of the mythical creatures that legitimately doesn't like cake. Cupcakes, I can get down with, but cake? Nah not for me!
i like cake but i’m not obsessed with it. it’s not that great lmao
Virgie: "Eat as much as you want!"
Person: "Okay. I don't want to eat a big slice of cake."
Virgie: "No, not like that!"
Lol
The fact it goes both ways just makes Virgie’s claims appear stranger than before.
I am a fat person, but I am healthy, because I try to eat healthy, because I wanna live till I am at least 74, so that I can eat what I want now and then. I am 26 and two years ago I started getting liver problems because I don't have a gall bladder and my liver was getting weak. I did some tests and the results scared me. So I started controlling my food and stopped drinking beer and now two years later, all my liver problems are gone. You cannot believe how proud I am. Through this control, my weight has gone down too. I remember getting menstrual problems too when I was eating with no limit. Now I get regular periods. My weight is still a little over the weight level of a 26 year old but I dont care. Its not always about losing weight to look good. For me its to help my organs!! They work really hard for me. They are me. I need to take care of myself cause noone else will. Cake won't help when I am at the hospital with serious liver problems.
Oh wow! Congratulations! That is a major achievement
Congrats!
For real if someone loves their body they take care of it,just like u did.
+
Congrats 🤩👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
That is what love your body is supposed to be! Giving it the best nourishment and care and not abusing it by eating without limit. Keep it up, proud of you
I had a different read on the cake story. It seems the woman said the slices should be smaller (i.e., the entire cake should be cut into smaller slices) and Virgie freaks out because smaller slices mean she will not get as much cake as she craves. That is, this woman was getting between Virgie and her gluttony.
That’s what I was thinking too! Maybe the woman was asking for the cake to be cut into smaller slices so there was enough for everyone, not because she was judging others for the size of their slice of cake. It’s such a strange mindset to have to immediately go to being judged.
Virgie starts the sentence with "My definition of health" and ends it with "regardless of health status". She's literally saying "My definition of health has nothing to do with health."
This gets me every time. It reminds me of a girl who got really mad in a college debate because I kept poking holes in her argument. The way you know someone doesn't have any validity with what they say is when they have to try to ignore the main point and speak "regardless of" it.
I feel like the woman cutting the cake just wanted to make sure there were enough slices for everyone at the party???
RIGHT omg the egoism
Also some people dont have much of a sweet tooth. My husband always asks for a small piece
Maybe she should buy her own cake.
Me! Whenever I take a part of food I always worry whether it's enough for everybody. But not in the case of this big girl.
Moms are the best managers in the world. I am even gonna name my real estate properties after my mother's name.
"Eat cake!"
"Um, I can't because allergies exist and-"
"UNACCEPTABLLLLLLLLLE!!"
“Eat this cake”
*Vegan* “no thanks, it has eggs and I’m vegan, but it looks really good I hope you enjoy😌”
“WHAT”
me who's tongue is extra sensitive and cant bear the taste of sugar🤣
Read it in Lemongrab's voice
You’re not missing much. Cake is overrated
@@alpacawithouthat987 iktr
I'm a 5'11 lifelong weightlifter who has seesawed between 75kgs (very lean, six pack) to a hefty 95kgs (strong, but definitely overweight).
The truth is, being overweight sucks. Clothes don't fit, you're tired all the time, you get out of breath, your stomach and hips jiggle and itch when you jump around. It's so so uncomfortable.
When I'm eating clean and healthy, a normal but not lean 78-80kg, I feel better, I sleep better, I feel comfortable and secure in my clothes. It's 100x better than any pizza or fried chicken could ever taste. These foods are okay once every few weeks or once a month or holidays or special occasions. Balance.
Body Positivity = Accepting all body types and finding the beauty of all women, regardless of size Fat Acceptance = Only accepts fat people and calls any thin woman, anorexic or not, unrealistic
Right?! And there's so many people out there that are mistaking/mislabeling one when they really mean the other.
YESS, you are 100% right!!
James H Body positivity is about loving your body regardless of size, shape, deformities etc. So it’s not that they’ve used it when it’s not for them, it’s that some people use it to excuse bad/unhealthy behaviours.
Wistymations Very true
Wistymations
Sure, they can be a part of the movement, but many of them are openly claiming it was created *for them*, while also often implying, that slim people have no place in it. Which is false, ironic, entitled and exclusionary.
Virgie looks older than my mother who is 20 years older than her.
Also everyone has a diet, and diet culture is nowhere near as predatory as the fast food industry is.
Predatory is exactly the right word for it. They have everything down to a science, just the right combination of fat, salt and sugar, the packaging, paying supermarkets extra to position their products at the eye level of children, so on and so on.
@@thaliacrafts407 fr its people like this that make corporations continue to put poison in our grocery stores. targeted for kids and for us
Plus the medication to survive whilst seriously overweight, billions go into that too.
Same with my mom LOL
Facts!
Captain Obvious here with an observation: the "small slice" lady may have looked at the size of the cake and number of guests at the party and said hey, if everyone wants a slice, I want to be sure everyone can have one! The party was not about satisfying Vergie's whims but about celebrating a birthday and being sure everyone could participate in the food part of the celebration.
right? and knowing Vergie, it wouldn't surprise me if she genuinely took half the cake for herself
@@sarah.n.s.c. ikr, and tbh idk why Virgie wouldn't just run off with the cake on the spot 💀
@@sarah.n.s.c. watch ur fat shaming its a little loud today
As someone who has been the cake slicing lady, I guarantee this is what happened. I don’t cut bigger pieces of cake especially if it has limited servings. If a lot of other people aren’t eating cake then I can cut another slice, but I ain’t giving you half the cake.
I was thinking the same exact thing lmao
I'm a smaller person and get regularly hassled when I claim to be full and turn down seconds, request a small serving of dessert, leave food on my plate, etc. People really take it as a personal offense, particularly around home cooking and the "food is love" mentality.
i think the “fat” movement should be towards people who are actually trying, are kinda chubby, etc. NOT eating whatever and not caring bc “bOdy pOsitivity”
Hell, the body positive movement should be for people with acne, scars, vitiligo, false limbs, birthmarks, loose fat on their body (stomach, arms) due to a huge and sometimes rapid weight loss, people who are naturally very skinny, and very importantly, people who are naturally chubby and fat. Because of my genes, I store fat on my thighs like CRAZY! Its been like this for as long as I remember, and people have commented on it as early as fourth grade. No amount of workouts is going to prevent me from always gaining fat first and foremost on my thighs. I'm a bit bigger naturally, but I'm very healthy! The body positive movement is to celebrate healthy bodies that aren't always shown love, and to always respect each other no matter what you look like. I feel like that's truly what the body positive movement was for, but it was overrun by people like Angie.
Apparently her name is Virgie omg
maybelle jones EXACTLY!!!
@@amiraaboul-hosn4838 Couldn't agree more
@@amiraaboul-hosn4838 you are so right, sweetie. A lot of my friends and classmates get offended when someone calls obese people "fat people". When I ask what's wrong with that they say " it's a body positivity movement!1!!".
I think body acceptance is a good thing but now it's fucked up. Even skinny people get bullied for being naturally thin.
Virgie looks like she's at least 50. I can't believe she's actually only 38...
Wow, I thought she is 60.
38? Wut
That’s what sugar, grease, fatting stuff, etc does to you, lol.
I hope you are joking! 38?
@@d.e.p.5624 Wish I was joking. Had to look it up.
Person : Oh, just a small slice for me, please.
Virgie: OH, SO YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME?!?
Yes. Yes, I am.
Just say yes and shut down that conversation.
@@Bantallas for real 😳
"Ya think ya bettah than meh?!!! Ya muff gabbage!!"
- South Park
Mic drop
I usually weigh around 100 kgs. I'm 1.98m so this is not bad for my height. A few months ago, I went up to 113, due to being less mobile. At just 13kgs over my normal weight, I could feel that I was lethargic. I didn't feel good. I noticed that I was less happy & cared less. I made a choice to reverse this & got down to 95. I'm now again at 100 & maintaining this. I'm now happier & don't feel as lethargic. So for me, it's about the way that I feel
A small thought I had when I heard her account of the "cake incident": Maybe the woman asking for smaller slices was concerned about the fair distribution? How many people were planned to get slices from that cake? If you get yourself 1/8th of a cake meant for 16 people, you are stealing someones slice!
The funny thing is that she mentioned how much of an imposition it was on the person cutting the cake... it takes no more effort to cut a small slice than it does a large slice.
I was totally thinking along the same lines as well .
And that the lady didn't ask for a smaller piece of cake. She only told the lady cutting the cake that she was cutting the pieces to big.
So what I thought and heard was maybe the host of the party or a boss or supervisor telling the person cutting the cake that they were to big. And that was because they needed to make sure they had enough for everyone.
And as I said not someone even asking for a smaller piece of cake.
It's really just radical femminisim disquised with 2 layers of frosting a layer of ruffeles potatochips and toped with some jolly ranchers .
@@dx1450 At best you can say it's harder to cut even slices consecutively, but as long as they are somewhat even it would be fine.
@@dx1450 it's actually minutely harder to cut a bigger slice because you either have to turn the cake slightly or have to do slightly more rotation with the knife holding arm.
Her and her following are so entitled, they'd blame the party host if the cake ran out because that fatphobic B didn't get a wedding sized cake for the gluttons to devour.
Me: **doesn't like chocolate cake**
Me: **is too socially anxious to turn it down at my cousins 10th birthday party and so asks for the smallest slice possible**
Virgie, somehow there and also hiding behind a bush in my aunt's backyard: **hissing** PaTrIaRcHyYiEEEEEE!!!!
lmfao
my son actually hates cake, he only eats it because I had some at my bday party, to be nice. but yeah, he usually just says no to most sweets, he doesn't care about how others are eating.
take the cake home for your other relatives
Any ideology that preaches “less self-control”, “don’t care”, and “do whatever you want” mentality, is going to make a person miserable. No one genuinely lives their life removed from rules and expectations, and really no one should.
Well, I think a lot of people do, but they just hate the consequences. That's the part which always comes back to bite you in the ass.
Less self control is such a bad thing, i know because i struggle with it. If you don't have self control you can't do the things you WANT to do, the path to freedom is self control although that sounds contradictory you're free to do what you want and not do what you don't want to.
What blew my mind was when I found out that "doing the right thing" and "doing whatever I wanted" could be the same thing.
Freedom allows you the ability to pick no as an answer. It's not freedom when you can't opt out. Good things will become bad when consumed in excess.
Correct, is just that those rules and expectations are my own. Discipline is freedom.
The idea that someone might genuinely only want a small slice of cake is just completely unimaginable to her. It really gives some insight into her completely messed up relationship with food.
“Disproportionate amount of labor” = turning knife a few degrees
It's labor for them to turn the knife like two degrees but they can turn machetes 360 degrees and swing them at vegetables and still somehow not be out of breath.
Its called hyporbole try not to reach so hard next time though
@@mayraleal1457 it’s called a joke
@@mayraleal1457 we get it. You're overweight and sympathize with Virgie "selfcontrol is patriarchy" Tovar
@@jonathonaleman yup thats me
The problem with the whole “body positivity” movement is it’s usually filled with angry fat women who hate on skinny people. If you’re going to spread awareness for “beauty at all sizes” then you better accept beauty for skinny people as well.
Don't forget muscular people aswell
@@michqlle1862 Basically, anyone who isn't buying into their BS and wants to live a healthy lifestyle. It hurts their tender little feeling when other people do something they are too lazy to do. Crabs in a bucket.
At the end of the day, women in general will always resort to exclusion, playground tactics when they try to get points across and "start movements" we've already seen the breakdown between men and women in society etc and this fat women vs the world thing is just another example in a long list of them. Truth hurts.
@@pisstakecentral what? Can you explain it in another way? (I mean I genuinely don't understand I'm not trying to be descending or anything)
@@pisstakecentral Is this some redpill/MGTOW/Incel/neckbeard/niceguy crap?
Overeating doesn't exist?
Here's how overeating has affected me throughout my life:
* I developed and ED called binge eating disorder
* I developed an unhealthy coping mechanism based on self harming through eating things that I knew were bad for me, landing me in the hospital to the point of once even having kidney failure
* Several hospitalisations due to stomach problems and gallstones that lead to my gallbladder being removed
* I've had stomachaches, migraines, vomiting, diarrhea, toothache and other consequences of overeating unhealthy foods that made me be in excruciating pain
* I now have high cholesterol
* I'm taking medication for hypertension and at risk of stroke and heart attack
* I'm at risk of developing diabetes type 2, like it happened to my mum after a lifetime of indulging in those big portions of cake
* I have to follow a very strict diet to counteract all the efects of overeating unhealthy foods for decades. So no fried food cos my body can't process it, no salt, no sugar, no coffee for me...
It's all well and good for these younger fat activists to accept their bodies and indulge in every craving of junk food now but they will suffer the consequences later. And they're encouraging other people to endanger their lives too! Please don't listen to them and take care of yourselves! There's nothing wrong with eating a slice of cake at a birthday, but a balance diet will make your quality of life much better. The human body is not designed to consume all this processed, addictive, harmful foods!
❤ I hope you're doing well on your recovery. EDs are a terrible thing
Hang in there and love yourself!!!
@@domtekos7761 Thank you! Still struggle sometimes but getting better at taking care of myself 💪 Hope youre OK if you struggle too with ED 💓
@@joetrolo7076 Thanks, Joe! I do love myself now, that's why I decided to try and take care of myself 🤗
@@AliceinMindfuland good for you, Alice. We're all on different journeys, but it feels great when we know we're on the right path.
I’m almost 36, it took me almost 34 years to learn self control. I choose what I eat because I eat to live, not live to eat❤️(even with gastric bypass, it was/is a long journey 12 years down, forever to go)
I've gone from 300lbs to 240lbs so far, few changes to what I eat, go for a walk every day. But I was pre-diabetic and my grand pa died from diabetics so yeah time for change.
Good job! I wish you luck and success on your journey!
Good luck to you my friend.
Nice man it’s hard to change your lifestyle ESPECIALLY eating habits, I am also doing this as well so keep on keeping on!!!!
60 lbs is impressiv! I am really proud of you, keep up the work! 👍
@@superfate9424 ramen noodles....the fancy ones, that was my weaknes. i started to make and can soup, take 4 days to make 12 pints but its amazing soup.
I like how she keeps referring to weight loss as the patriarchy as if overweight men don't exist.
My sister is a fat activist and believes basically all the things that Virgie preaches. She talked about how shallow and misogynistic men who don’t want to date overweight women are and the evils of patriarchy. I asked if she would be willing to date an overweight guy and she said no but it was different because…
…I guess patriarchy?
@@raspberryjamboree9863 It is honestly frustrating the degree to which some of these people have no self awareness.
Well, I mean there are people(females specifically) that try to show off how cool they are ordering salad, when everyone else is eating pizza. But like, isn't that their own problem? And that doesn't mean everyone is like this - there are like 500 reasons why someone would eat less publicly and only the 501st one would have something to do with this.
@@kaoryakasaka6835 very much their own problem. We're adults, you don't get a gold star and a cookie for making what you think is the healthy choice when everyone else is just enjoying the meal (and even if we did, these women would just make a big show of refusing the sweet, anything to keep attention on them). If a person has to make a big deal about what they are, or are not, eating, it's just sad grandstanding.
@@ICookAndIKnowThings exactly! Don't know why the Virgie lady made it such a big deal.
I can't believe she got mad at someone for wanting a smaller piece of cake when she says people should eat as much as they want... What if they don't like chocolate cake very much?
or they dont like sweets that much and just wanted a piece-
@@lilkeyla5769 they are not relevant anywhere they go so they do everything to gain attention.
I love cocoa but too much sugar destroys the taste for me.
Some people are like me, who are allergic to chocolate, she doesn't even realise that, does she?
Eat as much as you like, as long as it doesn’t make me feel like a fat fucking sow with no sense of self control.
In French, a diet to lose weight is called “régime”, and a diet as a general way of eating is called “diète”. I like this linguistic distinction. It’s a mentality healthier way of talking about the way we eat and our goals.